The Highwire with Del Bigtree - FAUCI KNEW LAB LEAK WAS MOST LIKELY SCENARIO

Episode Date: August 6, 2023

The private conversations of top scientists steering the early trajectory of public discourse around COVID-19 now show that many strongly believed the Wuhan lab leak scenario was possible, but chose to end the debate and eliminate the discussion.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

So, Del, last week, we talked about an unredacted version of an email by Tony Fauci at the beginning of the pandemic. He was giving an update to all of the people that he was talking to, trying to figure out, where this thing came from, what kind of works going on in China? He had virologists. He had people like Jeremy Farrar at the Welcome Trust, really quarterbacking it as well. He had Francis Collins, NIH. Well, that became unredacted by the select subcommittee that has been looking at the coronavirus response and all of it. It's false. And so we know that now.

And what's happened is we have Ram Paul, Senator Rampaul, and he has called for basically Fauci to have prosecution for lying under oath. This is what that look like in the media. All right. Anthony Fauci came before my committee. He said, absolutely, he funded no gain of function research in China. But we now have an email from him where he describes the research they're doing and says, you know what? We are suspicious of the lab because we know they are doing gain of function research.

He describes the project, but the project he described is the project he funded. So everything he's been telling us from the very beginning has been a lie. We've documented that it's a lie and it's a felony to lie to Congress. And so I've referred him not once, but now twice to the Attorney General of the United States for prosecution. But as you know, this Attorney General is the most partisan Attorney General we've ever had. And it's good luck on getting him to do his job. Once again, watching this government just cover up for all sorts of problems, all, you know, and this is a big one, right? This is going to be big.

Our government agencies, you think about all the line that went on, our president, you know, pushing a vaccine that ended up not stopping transmission. This was promised, jobs taken away, economy destroyed, and all of it around this virus that we have said from the beginning, looks like it's got Tony Fauci's fingerprints all over it. Yeah, and at the beginning, too, you had two camps that were really trying to figure out what was going on. You had Fauci Collins, Jeremy Ferrar, these higher ups at NIH, Bethesda boys, they called them. And then you had the borologists, the actual nuts and bolt scientists, the evolutionary scientists. And that was the other camp.

And they had their own separate conversations. And what came out of all of that was the paper. this was the paper remember everyone was trying to figure out what happened right where is this going the proximal origin of saris cov2 this was published in nature and this really at the beginning of the pandemic killed the conversation of the lab situation the lab leak and yet it says here our analyses clearly show that saris cov2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus and so what that did and that was early on in the pandemic that just kicked off the media ran with this hook line and sinker. That's what it looked like. Check this out. This whole notion that the coronavirus was developed

in a Chinese lab. That has been debunked. The people saying it's manmade, that's been pretty much completely debunked. The scientists say no, when you look at its genetic makeup and the science behind it, it has not been altered. Dr. Anthony Fauci rejected the conspiracy that coronavirus was manmade in a lab in Wuhan, China. This could not have been artificially or deliberately. manipulate. A lot of people that write love that phrase, escape from the lab, because it sounds like something from a Marvel movie or a comic book. It sounds like they're talking about a man-made virus that China was weaponizing that got out of control. You see, it turns out, Corona was never just a virus. No, it was actually a weapon created to take old people out. Donald Trump is still

pushing the debunk to bunkum, despite his own intelligence community's findings that that is simply not true. It's really incredible to watch how poorly all of those news reporters are aging on this subject. And yet I don't know that we've heard an apology from any of them and why anyone tunes in to hear what they have to say. What you saw is the failure of modern news agency or reporting, which is it's doing the same thing as science. It's running on assumptions. It's running on expert opinion. And frankly, to all of my peers out there in journalism, you know, you're supposed to have a little red flag go off when you recognize that over the years Tony Fauci has been in brawled in an argument over whether we should be doing gain of function

research. Clearly if something went wrong, you know, someone close to that would be trying to cover it up. So the way they took it hook, line, and sinker from this guy, Tony Fauci, of all the people in the world, it didn't take rocket scientists to say, you know what? This guy has got his fingers in this space. We certainly can't just take his word for it. The first thing. he would obviously do is try to cover this up. And yet that instinct does not seem to exist in journalism anymore, except, you know, in a very few places and the two of us are sitting here on the high wire for everybody that was paying attention. We were skeptical from the beginning. And, by the way, sacrificed our YouTube channel, sacrificed our Facebook channel for stating

the obvious, which is we do not see the evidence that you can prove that this is a natural virus. And what ultimately ends up being the truth is not important because what we're going to go through is kind of a forensic. It's not important for this segment. What we're going to go through is kind of a forensics of how the medical community creates a narrative. And you just saw the end result of that. The media just grabs it and repeats. So we have, thanks to the coronavirus, the select committee and the coronavirus for pandemic, we have the Slack channel. So the Slack is a private communication. messenger system. And that's the second camp, the virologists and the scientists, they were using as one of the forms of their communication was this Slack channel. They were communicating with

this. Not Fauci, not Collins. They weren't on here. But the virologists were. And one of them was Christian Anderson. He's Scripps Institute. He's one of the authors on the proximal origin. And he was one of the leaders when he started reading the Slack, these Slack messages, is one of the leaders in really driving this narrative in a gentle way and sometimes not so gentle. So let's look at some of the messages here. So this was February 1st. So this was right when it was all kicking off. Fauci's going, what the heck's going on?

I need meetings. These guys are talking behind the scenes. Christian Anderson says this. I think the main thing still in my mind is that the Lab Escape version of this is so freaking likely to have happened because they were already doing this type of work and the molecular data is fully consistent with that scenario. Pretty strong statement. That's a strong statement. That's a strong statement. Completely opposite, by the way.

Pretty freaking obvious that it looks like it came from the lab, okay? Completely obvious, completely opposite of what he wrote and put his name on in Proximal Origins. But let's continue. He goes on to say this. Both Ron and Christian, now those were other scientists. Both Ron and Christian are much too conflicted to think about this issue straight. To them, the hypothesis of accidental lab escape is so unlikely and not something they want to consider. Now, Christian Anderson goes on to say this. The main issue is that accidental escape is in fact highly likely.

It's not some fringe theory. I absolutely agree that we can't prove one way or the other, but we'll never be able to. However, that doesn't mean that by default, the data is currently much more suggestive of a natural origin as opposed to, for instance, for example, passage. It is not the fear and cleavage site. It's very hard to explain. Now, then you have the addition of another scientist. Andrew Rombolt. He's from the University of Edinburgh, a molecular evolutionary professor, and he goes on to say this. Now, we start talking politics. He says, given the S show, you can

kind of fill in the blank there, that would happen if anyone's serious accused the Chinese of even accidental release, my feeling is we should say that given there is no evidence of a specifically engineered virus, we cannot possibly distinguish between natural evolution and escape. So we are content with describing it to a natural process. Wow. I mean, just pause there for a second. Right. He's saying because we're kind of afraid of China, we have evidence,

but we really don't have the smoke and gut evidence. So let's just forget all that and let's just put this thing to rest. Yeah. I mean, for everyone that may be watching the high wire new, if you're watched it for some time, you're now going through all the videos, all of, you know, the Stanley Plotkin on the stand for vaccines, where there's an absence of science, I assume safety and all of these things.

Assumption, assumption, assumption, assumption. It is horrifying the day you wake up and recognize that science, the word as you knew it, where it was proving a point, proving a hypothesis, challenging it. I don't know how many decades ago that disappeared, but clearly the science we swim in now is just a religion, it's political, and what you are watching is how opinion and assumption and a desire to paint a picture overcomes and success. in drowning out the actual truth. And it's really, really horrifying.

And this is in almost every branch of science now. Totally corrupted just as I sat here in my debate with Neil deGrasse Tyson and I said, science is dying. I am desperately asking you to help me try to revive it. It's so scary to watch this happening. And how many millions of lives are affected by these types of, you know, political discussions, not science discussions. Right.

And so you have, right, you have, Rambalt says, you know, we don't want to really do any kind of accusations towards China at this point. So Christian Anderson, this is still early February, the first week in February, Christian Anderson says this to the China comment. Yep, I totally agree that that's a very reasonable conclusion. Wow. Although I hate, now, although I hate when politics is injected into science, but it's impossible not to, especially given the circumstances. We should be sensitive to that. Plus, none of this matters at this moment. Then he goes on to say this, I'm starting to think, that for outbreak research, the bio RXIV really needs to start screening submissions.

It's a slippery slope, but is justified at this stage. Just leave that up for a second. I just leave that up. Everybody take a look at this. You know, we talked about Andrew Hill and how he, you know, turncoats on the entire discussion around ivermectin and those things. But look at this. This guy started out by saying, I am, it is so friggin obvious this came from a lab.

And look how quickly he sells out. I mean, what a weak human being. And this is when we talk about Nazi Germany, how do people go down that slippery slope? Not that I'm calling Christian Anderson and Nazi, but this is the compromise of humanity. And where does he go? At first, it's like, no, I mean,

anybody that's saying this, you know, didn't happen to lab is crazy. We got to, like, forget about our friends that are just totally addicted to lying to the people. And then he ends up saying, not only am I totally in agreement, I will lie to the people, we better start, you know,

censoring all of the documents coming in to the open space science. community because if we don't stop it there, the truth might actually get out. I mean, look how quickly this guy just throws science to the wind and becomes a shill for the lie. Unbelievable. And these messages have not just passed in the dark of the night. So the media is picking up on this. A lot of people are talking about this.

This is one of the headlines here. Prominent scientists downplayed COVID-Lab League theory to avoid upsetting China. But, you know, it makes me think we start seeing all of the things. this and we think back to how hard comedians were aggressively basically attack neutralized destroyed during the pandemic because they were able to just take these complex ideas and break them down to simple things and who would have thought that john stewart of all people would have probably had this thing sewn up at in the early days the greatest scientific mind of our times yeah i mean with a monologue like this remember this check a look what do you mean but do you mean like

Perhaps there's a chance that this was created in a lab, there's an investigation. A chance. Well, but I'm, if there's evidence, I'd love to hear it, I just don't know. There's a novel respiratory coronavirus overtaking Wuhan China. What do we do?

Oh, you know who we could ask? The Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab. The disease is the same name as the lab. That's just a little too weird. Don't you think? And then they asked those scientists, They're like, how did this... So wait a minute.

You work at the Wuhan Respiratory Coronavirus Lab. How did this happen? And they're like, A penguin kissed a turtle. And you're like, no. The name of your lap. If you look at the name, look at the name. Let me see your business card.

Show me your business card. Oh, I work at the coronavirus lab in Wuhan. Oh, because there's a coronavirus, Lucy Nguyen. How did that happen? Maybe a bat flew into the cloaca of a turkey, and then it sneezed into my chili, and now we all have corona. Like, come... Okay, okay, wait a second, wait a second. What about this? What about this? Listen to this? Wait a second. All right. John. Oh, my God. Oh my God. There's been an outbreak of chocolatey goodness near Hershey, Pennsylvania. What do you think? happened like oh i don't know maybe a steam shovel made it with a cocoa bean or it's the chocolate factory maybe that's it not that he gets it all right but it seems like uh he's aging pretty

well with that scientific statement right there and so as you would think um there is a petition out there now to retract this paper to kind of reshuffle the deck on the science this is biosafetynow.org's petition. Retract the proximal origins of SARS-CoV2, a fraudulent paper on the origin of COVID-19. Anybody can go there. Sign that petition now if you think, want your voice to be heard on this and really just try to get science back to a neutral spot after this dark age of suppression and manipulation and narrative control.

That's where we're at right now with this. I love it. Let's bring that back up, everybody, because this is where we get to have some fun on the high wire. Let's show them. They want to get, what do they need? Another 1,000 there. I think we got that.

do this. Everybody grab change.org slash p slash retract dash the dash proximal dash origin dash of dash SARS dash cove dash two. We will also have that in our comments and if you are part of our newsletter you will receive that. But let's show them what we can do here on the highway. Let's just push that right over the top because this is important. That has to be retracted. This is an abomination of science. It cannot stand and it's all part of our, you know, goal to eventually see Tony Fauci put in a trial and we've got to start removing the science that they faked and lied about. And we, this is where we have power, right? This is where we can speak out. This is a part of our cancel culture. Let's cancel bad science,

shall we?