The Highwire with Del Bigtree - FDA HEAD GOES ANTI-VAX

Episode Date: October 14, 2023

Once labeled a dangerous ‘anti-vax’ technique, head of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, Dr. Peter Marks is now stating he would space out vaccines to avoid mounting adverse reactions.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

In May of this year, the FDA approved the first RSV vaccine, that's respiratory syncyticidal virus, for people over 60. And shortly after, here is the messaging you saw on your TV. All right. Flu and COVID shots are now available, as are the new RSV vaccines. Trying to avoid another triple demic. For the first time ever, have vaccines against all three of the major viruses that spread this fall and winter. You can be vaccinated against COVID-19, influenza, and influenza. an RSV, also known as respiratory syncytial virus.

With RSV, the CDC does say that co-administration with other adult vaccines is acceptable. The advantage is that you can get it taken care of in a single appointment. They all can be given at the same time. Two in one arm, one and the other, and then you would be good to go for the season. We highly recommend getting all three in the same visit, that way you're protected and geared up against this vaccine season. All right, triple ouch, okay. Get them together. It makes the fall, the winter, the holidays, just much safer, much better for everybody.

Let's take our RSV vaccine, the old flu shot that never worked, and the COVID vaccine that was tested on 10 mice, slap them all in you at once. What could possibly go wrong? Triple out, as she says. Indeed. So how the heck did we get here? So this is a headline from 2021. It says CDC says COVID flu vaccine. vaccines can be co-administered. And in this article, it says when the Centers for Disease Control

Prevention releases latest round of recommendations regarding seasonal influenza vaccines, the document contained one notable update. Flu vaccines and COVID vaccines can now be given simultaneously. This change stands in March contrast to previous recommendations in which the CDC said that other vaccinations should not be administered within a two-week window before or after receiving COVID-19 vaccines. So in 2021, they said, yeah, you know what, flu season's coming. Just stack them all in the same visit. And then the RSV comes and says, says, just put them all in the same time. Just fine.

Just keep stacking them. And if they come out with another vaccine, maybe we'll get for it at the same time. But remember, never question this. Never spaced them out. If you do that, you're an anti-vaxxer. And here's a problem, though. We just saw this headline. Top FDA official suggests spacing out vaccines to avoid side effects.

Whoops. Looks like the marketing campaign has a little problem here. This is Peter Marks. He's the director. He's not just some underling. He's the director of the Centers for Biologics evaluation of research at the FDA. And this is what he had to say. Take a listen. All right. I have to be an honest person and say that some people are saying, well,

could I get RSV, COVID, and the flu vaccine on the same day? Yes, indeed, you could. But honestly, I might not just because each of them can potentially make one a little, a little fatigued or have a little bit of a fever. And I might just want to space them out a little bit, but if you had to drive a lot of miles to get the vaccines, that it might not be unreasonable to get all three of them at once. People, I mean, I want you to learn this is what we're trying to teach you on this show. There's moments red flags should go up. Here's when a red flag should go up when every single news anchor you know went on a blitzkrieg telling you get all three at the same time. And then a week later, one of your heads at FDA says, you know, there's some

out there saying, you know, get them at the same time, I'm not going to, I have to be honest with you, I'm not recommending that. That is the equivalent to something really bad must have just gone down where the statement, by the way, everyone on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, CBS, NBC did not all say the exact same thing and Peter Marks knew nothing about it. He was a part of writing that statement. He made everybody say that on the news. That is the propaganda. That's the tool they use. All of a sudden, after sending everyone out telling you to get at the same time, he's now telling you, and the headlines are saying, actually probably smarter to spread it out because we don't want to be seeing adverse reactions.

Oh, really? Oh, wait a minute. I mean, taking three at the same time could cause more of a reaction than not. Well, what about the seven? I was just giving my child, you know, yesterday. You see, this is the problem. This is why they want sort of this one-size-fits-all. pull off and say you can take 10,000 of these things at the same time will never affect you.

They never wanted to change this language. They never want you thinking that one or two or three of these things makes a difference. Now Houston, we've got a problem. Ask yourself what just happened that they have changed? They're safe and effective no matter how many you get, whenever you get them all day, any day. Something's going on, folks. And from a public relations standpoint, think about this too. Peter Marks is now aligned with antivaxers.

The quote, anti-vaxers, what we've been told was anti-vaxers. Remember in 2016 when there's a California pediatrician named Dr. Sears? Yeah. This was the headline here. Alternative vaccine doctor Robert Sears accused of gross negligence. Well, he was suggesting that patients space their vaccines out to avoid side effects and reactions. Right. So here we are.

But now let's look at the CDC call directives. This is the clinical outreach call. It's about almost an 80-page PowerPoint that your clinicians get. These are the marching orders CDC gives to your local community public health providers. This is for preparation for the upcoming respiratory virus season. So these are the marching orders. And it says in here, co-administration with all other adult vaccines is acceptable. It also says if vaccines are not administered the same day, there's no requirement.

It required intervals between vaccines. Let's look at the CDC schedule. This is what the doctors are getting. This is when we're saying doctors. Like, my doctor knows best. Your doctor doesn't know best. Your doctor was lied to. And if they didn't do their homework after being and sitting through this PowerPoint,

they think, no, I'm supposed to be giving them all the same time. Forget the fact that Peter Mark's saying, look, some people like your doctor telling you to get all three at the same time, I wouldn't recommend it. Certainly wouldn't do it to myself. Right. Exactly. And so, I mean, one could say he's sowing vaccine disinformation because now people are going to question their doctor.

Oh, my gosh. So let's look at the CDC schedule for adult vaccine. There's up to 13 other adult vaccines here. So this co-administration is saying, you can give these with all other adult vaccines. Obviously, they're not going to give them with 13 other ones, but is there a lengthy amount of safety data on this practice? Not really, but they'll tell you they're monitoring the safety,

the adverse events of these vaccines. That's what we'll tell them. We have a robust monitoring system. So let's go back to this call directive sheet. It says this, let's look at the data they do have. It says there are currently limited data available on immunogenicity of co-administration of RSV vaccine and other vaccines. That's the immune response you're supposed to be getting for the vaccine. You're supposed to

elicit an immune response. They said, we don't really have that data as limited. Well, they also go on to say, however, RSV and influenza antibody titers were generally somewhat lower with co-administration. The clinical significance of this is unknown. So we're actually trying to boost antibody titers, but when we put them both in at the same time, it actually lowers them. We don't really know what happens, but go ahead and just give them with all the other vaccines. Let's simplify that even. Here's what they're saying, basically. We didn't really do any studies or many at all where we actually combined vaccines all together before we told you just combine them all together. But the couple of studies we did do or that we looked at actually

showed that the tighters go down and they're less effective when you give them together. But again, not a lot of science on it, so that's where we're at. I mean, it's amazing that they send out this blitzkrieg of news anchors and basically never did any science to back that statement up just assume we just assume taking them all together is fine oh wait hold on maybe not all right and if their question if anybody at the agency's question they say we have a robust monitoring system well the quiet part was just said out loud check out this study this is published just in april 2023 in the journal of human vaccines and immunotherapics is titled vaccine co-administration and adult an effective way to improve vaccination coverage and it says in here

Furthermore, if vaccines were administered separately, transient adverse events would be reported at each visit, and the total cumulative number of transient adverse events would likely be greater than after-code mission of multiple vaccines. So if you're reading this, like I'm reading this, they're saying, look, put them all in at the same visit. That way they'll only have one report for an adverse event. Because if you do them separately, you could possibly get up to three reports for an adverse event. It's going to just make it look like there's a lot of adverse events happening. And it had something else they don't even mention here. If they took them all at the same time, we're never going to be able to pinpoint which one has caused the problem.

Therefore, it's hidden safety in numbers here. And this is why our data in America sucks so bad and they want it that way. If you actually had a monitoring system, if you gave them one at a time, you might actually see that some of these are worse than others. We might actually learn something about the human body. Instead, they basically just said, here's how we're going to push. shit under the rug. We're going to hide it under our bed. We know there's going to be multiple adverse reactions for a lot of people, but let's combine them all into one adverse reaction by making them take them all at the same time. It's outrageous. They're basically, I mean,

just telling people marching orders in this article, this study, and it's almost like a pharmaceutical company paid for this. And then when you look at who paid for this, it is a pharmaceutical company. It says this. Glaxo-Smith Client Biologics took responsibility for all costs associated with developing and publishing the present manuscript. Cool. So there you have it. But now we have Peter Marks. He's entering the land of, you know,

maybe spacing out vaccines, questioning the efficacy of vaccines. Yeah. When it comes to this. But now we have also Dr. Paul Offutt. He's been really vocal about questioning vaccines as well. What the heck's happening? Dogs and cats sleeping together. This is Paul Offitt just recently talking about the most recent booster.

Take a listen. My last dose was in November of 2021. I had a mild two-day infection in May of 2022 with what was probably a BA2 strength because that was prominent at the time. I think I'm protected. I didn't get last year's bi-valent vaccine. I'm not getting this year's vaccine because I think I have high frequencies. If T-sols, maybe I'm wrong. Anytime you take any medicine or any biological, there's a downside.

If it has an upside, it'll have a downside. The downside may be rare. It may be very rare. But nonetheless, there's always a downside. And we're going to find out about this vaccine. It is a novel strategy. We certainly were surprised by myocarditis and paracarditis, and we'll see whether or not over time, you know, when we're five years into this, 10 years into this, 15 years into this, whether

there's any evidence of residual myocardial disease. And I think it's perfectly willing to, reasonable to take those risks if the benefits are clear, but when the benefits aren't clear, then it's not so reasonable to take risk, even rare risk. We actually tweeted out about this statement and basically saying Paul Offett is now officially an anti-vaxxer. Now I know he thinks he's just a good scientist, but that's true about all of us that start questioning vaccines. But just to be clear, this is the definition Webster's Dictionary of an anti-vaxxer, a person who opposes the use of some or all vaccines. Pretty sure that's what Paul Offa just did, said, I'm opposed to using the booster, don't think I need it. He's also,

if you're opposed to regulations mandating a vaccination or usually both, I would assume he would also say if you mandate that vaccine, I don't think that's the right. I don't think I need it. I think I got infected. I think I'm as boosted as well as I need to be and there's actually no decent science to show that this thing works at all. So Paul Offit, as I said before, welcome. Welcome to the pool. The water's warm and this is how science happens. Eventually it catches up with you. All right. So amazing that these scientists, they've pushed it so far and been so reckless in the science that they're having to back up, change their play, change their their mind and make public statements that go against what we just heard on the news last week. Absolutely incredible. Somebody better start apologizing really soon.