The Highwire with Del Bigtree - FOOD FIGHT

Episode Date: August 26, 2022

Fauci’s Final Flip Flop?; Bugs for Dinner!; An Emerging, Man-Made Food Crisis; Amish Farmer Under USDA Assault; Farm & Food Revolution in The Wisconsin Wild; Trump Targeted AgainGuests: Amos Miller, Max KaneBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Good afternoon. Good evening. Wherever you are out there in the world, we're all stepping out onto the high wire. Can you feel it? Sure feels like the world is in a strange, precarious place. In some ways, we're so used to the frontal assault coming right at us by our own governments that as it sort of dissipates, you're like, wait, where do they go? What's going on? You start to feel like behind some closed door somewhere is a problem that you're not seeing at the moment. We're going to cover some of that. And one of the big developments this week, And if you've been watching the High Wire, you know that, you know, my Mohawk background, my heritage that comes down to my mother, if you saw the show with my family, the Big Tree, which is my name.

You know, in true fashion, the Mohawk warriors always, you know, honored those warriors that were against them. They're enemies, if you will. And, you know, before Hiawatha came along and said it wasn't a good idea, they used to tear their heart out and eat it just to show how much they. really, you know, reveled and believed in the power of their opponent and why it should be recognized. So today, and I guess sort of the more modern version of that using television screens, let me just present the heart of a man who is stepping down, stepping out of the fight, who I have enjoyed very much standing across from and refuting every stupid thing he's ever said. Yes, Tony Fauci is leaving us, and there's been some mixed reviews in the news.

Good rid of this to Fauci and his calamitous costly career. They go on. Never in the history of the public health profession has anyone been so richly rewarded for doing so much harm to the public's health. And when we look at this, you know, that's obviously one perspective and a very powerful perspective. But there are a lot of people waiting in the wings right now that are saying, I don't care if you're going away.

It doesn't mean this is over. And this is what that looked like in the news. I'll say his legacy is presiding over the greatest debauching. in public health history, because his recommendations were implemented. And those implementations of the lockdowns and the school closures that he recommended, along with his underling, Dr. Birx, failed. They failed by the data to stop the spread of the infection. They failed to stop the known vulnerable to die from dying, and they inflicted enormous

harms. They spared the affluent and the elite at the sacrifice of the poor minorities and our children. But the worst part to me is the lie, and that is, don't we now know for a fact that NIH money, taxpayer dollars, when to fund this Wuhan virology lab? Unless Dr. Fauci, retirement or not, decides to seek asylum in some remote, obscure foreign country, then Dr. Fauci, retirement or not, is going to be spending a lot. lot of time in front of a congressional committee and committees. We're going to ask him questions about gain the function research, why he didn't push back on China's lives, why he pushed back

so hard on the possibility, which we know is now real, that the virus originated in a Chinese lab. The only reason I'm not grilling Fauci is he never comes before my committees. If he came before my committees, I would be asking him some tough questions because I've written him, You know, Dale, I'm up to 43 oversight letters on this. Okay? Yeah. So, no, I'm, we need to find out. His legacy, really, is the extraordinary distrust now in the public of our public health agencies.

I mean, this is critical and very harmful to the future crises, but also to the institutions themselves that we need to trust as people. The American people have many, many questions. about how Dr. Fauci handled the pandemic. I mean, obviously that's one perspective. And in one in some ways that I share, you know, let's just be clear here. Under the handling of the COVID pandemic under Dr. Fauci, in his own words, America got hit harder, had a higher death rate than anywhere else in the world. It's amazing.

And I've said this before to me that we hold, that anyone is holding him on some sort of pedestal for his great work. It's an absolute failure, as was well stated, I think, by Dr. Scott Atlas there. But let's also look at the history for those of you that I joined back when I made the film Vax, that have been dealing with vaccine injury. When you look at this history of the health of our children, and one of the talking points I've been sharing for years is back in the 1980s when we were only giving 10 vaccines, we had about a 12.4% chronic illness rate amongst our children. That 12.4% dealt with basically neurological disorders in autoimmune disease.

So things that you're going to have the rest of your life. When that vaccine program increased to 54 vaccines, technically 72 vaccines and 54 shots is really what it is for most kids in school, we watch this incredible increase in or decrease, if you will, in health. But from 12.8%, we went up to 54% chronic illness. in our children in that short period of time. That is the greatest decline in human health ever recorded. And when I've been out there, and I'll talk about vaccines, people come up to me and they say, Del, I mean,

how do you know it's the vaccines? How do you know that that drop in health and the rise in autoimmune disease and neurological disorders isn't being caused by the pesticides and the herbicides being sprayed all over like 90% of our crops and Monsanto's Roundup and things like that? Or what about the fluoride in our water, Dell? Or how about the fact that our meat is being injected with all sorts of hormones and all these antibiotics in the meat or the thing, the aluminum being atomized in our air? And I say, well, hold on a second.

Let's be clear. At the informed consent action network, which is the nonprofit that makes this show possible, we are funding lawsuits and investigations into everything you've just talked about. But let's, you know, whether it's vaccines or it's those other things, it's still the same CDC, FDA, Health and Human Services, and the National Institutes of Health that have all been involved in all the studies that have approved all of those things that are in your diet that are making you toxic, the things that you're drinking and eating and breathing. These are the people in charge, and nobody's been there longer than Tony Fauci.

So literally, if we're just going to look at the health of America's children and our society, I was at a water park just two weeks ago with my family, and I'm telling you, America needs a diet. And I don't honestly think it's how much we're eating. It's how crappy our food supply actually is when you see all the chemicals and all the byproducts in our food. We are being poisoned by people like Tony Fauci that have made all of this possible for their cronies inside of these giant industrial, agricultural, and food companies. This is a lot of what our show is going to be about today. So though he may be signing off and think he's walking off into the distance, there are a lot of us that have a lot of questions,

and we don't plan on letting him just walk away, which is probably why the other side of the media is jumping up to his defense, none other than Rachel Maddow. Having been the target of this kind of really specific, really different attack, do you have insight into what we ought to do to protect public officials like yourself and to try to be more rational about this stuff as a country? You know, Rachel, I wish I did have a positive, constructive answer for you, but I don't. I think you and I are talking about public health issues right now.

But what has spilled over and really in many respects impeded a proper response to a public health challenge is something that we see that goes well beyond public health. It's a complete distortion of reality. I mean, a world of where untruths have almost become normalized, how we can see something in front of our very eyes and deny it's happening. I mean, like, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. You can see things happening right before our eyes. Yeah, like the fact that everyone that got two shots and two boosters is getting COVID,

even though you said that wouldn't happen. We have children that are having myocarditis. rates that are through the roof in the bearer system. If you go inside of almost any ER or hospital in America, and probably every other First World nation that records it around the world, our children are sick, they're ending up in the hospital, and forget about all of the spontaneously combusted deaths, you know, that are happening all over just died of sudden causes.

I mean, how many headlines like that are we going to watch? We are talking about a totally destructive vaccine that is proving to be totally incapable of stopping this virus at all, never did what you said it could do. And now we're seeing the ramifications, which we have laid out on this show every single week. Here, the Bears numbers under Tony Fauci's watch. This is what we're seeing and are deciding to talk about.

30,000 reported deaths now to bears from the COVID vaccine alone in two years. 173,000 hospitalizations, 133,000 urgent care, 203,000 office visits because of injury from vaccine. 9,000, almost 10,000 cases of potentially deadly anaphylaxis. Bell's palsy and the list goes on and on permanently disabled 56,000 people and we know that this is underreported. They say it themselves. It's a passive reporting system totally unreported. At best is getting 10% if you go by Harvard Medical Schools study of theirs. It's 1% of the total amount of injuries that are actually taking place. So yeah, we have a real problem and it's amazing that they sit there saying

you know things happening right before your eyes and you just see it differently. Boy, we are living in two totally different worlds, no doubt about it. But as Tony Fauci runs off, and I'll admit, I lost a bet on this with a very good friend of mine, I thought that Tony Fauci would think that he's the only guy that will be able to defend himself if there's a shift in the Congress towards the people that you saw in many of those Fox News pieces

saying, we're coming after him. He is going to be perpetually on the stand to answer to a lot of what went wrong here in the United States of America since it was all under his watch. Well, you know, I thought who better to defend him himself than the word salad master. He certainly isn't going to leave this in someone else's hands. Well, Paul, I owe you a dollar. I was wrong. He's walking off in the sunset. Now I'm trying to imagine why. Probably because he's hoping that as we start seeing this mounting rise in all-cause

mortality, which we're reporting on, you're now seeing mainstream talking about it all over the world, an unexplained rise in excess death in every nation in the world out competing the COVID deaths when we didn't have a vaccine. How does that make any thing? sense. And as these deaths mount and the heart attacks are mounting and the, you know, sudden adult death syndrome is mounting, I suppose Tony Fauci wants to walk off in the sunset so that Rochelle Walensky can stay around saying, hey, you know what? I know you have questions about that, but I wasn't here when they approved it. So we'd like to just look forward into making the CDC a better place. Yes, mistakes were made without any detail, but we're fixing all that. Do you see

how that's happening? And I think that they last week said maybe that's not going to work, because I believe they need a new fall guy. They're going to have to figure out how to distract you from Tony Fauci, trying to run off into the hills and retire after having destroyed, probably, you know, knowingly murdered a half a million people by denying them hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, budescine, all of these things that are working and instead going with their own things. They need a new fall guy.

And I think this week we're starting to see exactly who that might be. Have you seen these headlines? Let's look at a few of them. House panel. Trump sought to pressure effort. on COVID vaccines and treatment from the Washington Post. Oh, it was Trump pressuring it. House panel details Trump pressure on FDA for discredited COVID treatment and vaccines.

What? Panel Trump staffers pushed unproven COVID treatment at FDA. Unproven. I'm sure they're talking about Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and those things. And Trump White House exerted pressure on FDA for COVID-19 emergency use authorization. The EUA that approved this vaccine that everyone was saying we needed. so excited to get out, House report finds. The Trump administration also tried to pressure the FDA to authorize the first COVID-19 vaccines ahead of the presidential election. When Hahn testified to the

subcommittee in January 22, he said that White House officials said they would not sign off on an emergency use authorization language that required a 60-day safety follow-up for late-stage clinical trials. Ultimately, the FDA went ahead of the 60-day follow-up plan without an explicit blessing from the White House, though the White House later, cleared it. Are you freaking kidding me? Can you believe this? I mean, look, I've always said it. I thought Trump's warp speed was moronic. It was from the very beginning, but it wasn't like anyone was fighting him. Tony Fauci, Deborah Birx, everybody's saying, hang in there, we're going to rush it through, head of the FDA, head of Health and Human Services. We're doing everything we can to get it to

you fast, meaning we're skipping all the safety trials that should have lasted. Forget 60 days. How about two freaking years for a DNA altering product? that has never been injected into human beings in the history of mankind. And every attempt at a coronavirus vaccine for the last 20 years has been killing animals in the animal trials. Yeah, we rushed it a little bit too fast,

but there's not just one player in there. I'm sorry, Donald, I warned you this was coming. I've told you to back off of celebrating this vaccine because it is the cement they're pouring around your feet when it starts killing people and they have to admit it when all the Democrats that lined us up and the Democrats that forced us to get this vaccine

to have our jobs, to go to school to be able to walk down the freaking street, when all of that proves to start killing us, guess who they're going to blame it on? Well, you're not without blame President Trump, but I will say this, you certainly were not alone, and you had a lot of bad advice around you, as was clearly laid out in my interview with Senator Ron Johnson.

But while they try to clean up this mess and blame other people, let's not forget what lying sacks of you know, what, they are. This is a great little report that came out that we didn't make, but I'm going to share it with you, Tony Fauci in his own words. Do you regret particularly the last one, the shutdown, the sweeping shutdown that some said made things worse? No, I don't, Neil. And in fact, I think we need to make sure that your listeners understand, I didn't shut down anything. I recommended to the president that we shut the country down. And the only way to do that is by draconian means of essentially shutting down a country.

We know that we can do that if we shut down. Well, I think one of the things you really need to do, to the extent that you can shut down temporarily, the country I think is important. Well, if I knew at the time that shutting down would have such a dramatic effect on controlling the spread, obviously we would have shut down earlier. There were those who say you shut down, you destructive things by disrupting the economy. And others say, well, if you save so many infections by shutting down, why didn't you shut down two weeks earlier? But I don't regret saying that the only way we could have

really stopped the explosion of infection was by essentially, I want to say shutting down, I mean essentially having the physical separation and the kinds of recommendations that we've made. You've been a big fan of Cuomo in the shutdown in New York. You've lauded New York for their policy. New York had the highest death rate in the world. How could we possibly be jumping up and down and saying, oh, Governor Cuomo did a great job? He had the worst death right in the world. No, you misconstrued that, Senator.

Look, I know Tony Fauci first got his job at NIAID back when the Pony Express was delivering the news, but it is clear he has forgotten that there's this new invention called cameras that have been recording everything he's had to say. And to those people in those articles blaming Donald Trump for products that don't work like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, which we've shown you the thousands of trials all around the world, showing their success. Let me just point out that the article and headline, everyone should pay attention, is that thing that was recommended by Fauci and used by Biden and their families.

Pax Lovid, this is the headline Pax Lovit. COVID pills have no benefit for adults 40 to 65 study shows. No benefits. So for all of you rebounding and yes, unfortunately I have to announce that the First Lady has rebounded this week, just like her husband did. First Lady Jill Biden test positive COVID-19 in rebound case. We all watched it happen just a few short weeks ago with President Biden. Look, it's all right.

these people are trying the products that they believe in. They don't work. It's a free country. But we're really pissed off that you denied us to products, that we're working with every single friend of ours that we recommended it to that could get their hands on it. No rebound in my friends. No rebound in any Senator Ron Johnson's friends as he talked about. When we were prescribing and getting our friends to go out and get Budescine and Ivermectin and all the protocols we've talked about here, they did really, really freaking well. So yes, it may be anecdotes. but in a free country where you're trying your stupid product that doesn't work, we should be allowed to try what we want. We're going to talk a lot more about that.

Today, I have a great show coming up. If you've been watching the news, there's a lot of discussion about the Amish farmer, Amos Miller, who is under attack for his organic food processing approach, and they're charging hundreds of thousands of dollars, threatening to put him in jail for simply farming the way his family has for five generations. in a very, very rare moment because the Amish are not crazy about being a part of the news. We're actually going to speak to him by phone. And then I'm going to further that conversation with a guy who healed his body on the verge of death

with nothing other than healthy food. Of course, I'm talking about Max Kane. He's been on the show before ahead of farmatch.com and Max Kane's party. We're going to talk about that great event that was up in Wisconsin. But today is about really, you know, our government, our food supply, what's going on? How are we going to take care of ourselves if our government is getting in the way? But first it's time for it, the Jackson Report. All right, Jeffrey, you know, it's like the rats are trying to jump ship here, but

in many ways we've got to work cut out for us to make sure that we get to the bottom of what's happened while they're trying to hide. Absolutely. It's really incredible to see. And, you know, across the U.S., there's a lot of counties and cities and towns that are under mandatory water bans. And this is where we start the story today. Okay. One of the towns that is seeing these droughts, these historic droughts, is Hollis, Maine. And there's an unfolding story going on there around their water supply in York County. That's the county that houses that city. And this is what the headlines look like.

Despite drought, Poland Springs wants to extract more water in Hollis. This is the water bottling company. The next headline goes, Poland Springs seeks town approval to double water extraction in Hollis. Locals express concern. And in the article, it says in York County, where Hollis is located, 83.6% of residents are currently affected by drought. It's the driest year to date that the counties had in 128 years. So Poland Springs is asking to go from 30 million gallons per year extraction to 60. So they put a request in for that.

and the townspeople were very, very unhappy. So the planning board just finished its second meeting yesterday. They had no resolution. So they're going to have another meeting on September 14th. So anybody in that area that wants to be a part of this can go and check that out. But that's what's happening there. And in Poland Springs is a subsidiary of Nestle. But Nestle was acquired by Blue Triton just recently. So Blue Triton is this bohemouth. It's now owned by a private equity firm in New York. And they have Arrowhead, Poland Springs, Ice Mountain, all of these water bottle companies are owned by this large company. But this isn't the first time we've seen this behavior.

You know, against the backdrop of a drought, you really get to see this behavior of some of these big companies. Last year in California in San Bernardino, Strawberry Creek, this was the headlines there. Facing drought that was last year. California challenges Nestle over water. use. I contacted the California State Water Board this week, and they said they had sent a cease and desist letter at that time. And these hearings are still going on. They're not expected to be done with these hearings until probably late 2022 or 2023. So the challenge there stopped that, which was good news for the townspeople there. But that is in the headlines here. And this is the fight to

stop Nestle. That's actually what the headlines are saying. The fight to stop Nestle from taking America's water to sell in plastic bottles. And this was before they obviously sold to Blue Triton, But what's happening now in California, obviously we're having another drought in California and check out these headlines. This is how the people are treated. In California's water crisis, neighbors turn to neighbors and even celebrities aren't spared. And the byline says water authorities have been installing flow restrictors on the homes of the region's wealthiest residents for using too much water. And, you know, really one of the biggest. Let's just, I want to let's bring that headline up because this is part of what we're doing here at the high wire.

And I want everyone to get ready for this because, you know, the, The needle is moving of the issues that we are here to discuss, right? We have made our way. We've got Tony Fauci who lied to the world running into the hills and we haven't taken our sights off of him. But when we're asking ourselves, where's the government moving now? They don't want to give up on controlling us. They don't want to give up on tracking us.

So everyone just look at this headline really quickly and look how familiar this looks. In California's water crisis, neighbors turn to neighbors and even celebrities aren't spared. How long ago was it when neighbors in California were being told to turn each other in over mass. How long ago was it when California was shutting off your power if you had more than 10 people over for Thanksgiving? Meanwhile, Gavin Newsom is having giant dinners and birthday parties at, you know, his own, you know, club events. So there's a shift going on here, and it's something that we're going to start exploring here on the high wire. We may be moving away from the vaccine at the moment. We shouldn't take our eyes off of it, but is it possible tracking systems and

things like that are going to be based on now environmental issues, climate change, droughts, things like that. I mean, this is, you know, it's like the exact same playbook when you really put the focus on it, isn't it, Jeffrey? Right. We're seeing the same overlay of these restrictions that we really thought were repugnant during the coronavirus. We're seeing the same overlay being used for, it looks like water, environmental restrictions. So this is really one of the more concerning headlines here talking about farmers in California. We know the farmers have been under attack, California farmers warned to stop diverting water in drought hit areas. And why is that important? Because when you look at the bottles, bottling companies,

it says bottled at the source. So they go right to the source of this of the water and they take that. But everyone downstream is having some issues with that. So some of the farmers obviously are, because of the drought are trying to divert some water to keep their farms going. And California is appearing to drop the hammer on there. But we hear about. Well, and I would assume that's again, you have lobbying issues, right? This is what we've just gotten through with the vaccines. So you have these giant, you know, powerful Nestle companies now Blue Triton that is lobbying your politicians in California. So the farmer doesn't win. The farmers can't get enough support to go in the way that, you know, Blue Triton can go in and fund politicians and fund all the education and say, hey, we got a problem here.

We got some farmers up river that are digging into our water that we own. Used to be your water. Now it's our water. I mean, this is the problem, right? This is the problem, and I'll be honest, and I've said this before, I'm still an environmentalist. I still want clean air, clean water, clean food. But the way all this is going about, I thought the only purpose of a government was to protect us from these giant industries that are stealing things from us, poisoning us, when they shouldn't be. But now we have a problem because all these regulatory agencies that these industries basically own are making decisions through our government against the citizens.

This is what, you know, is such a big part of what we need to change in this country if we want it to remain the dream that our founding fathers had. And that's the big issue when you peel back the layer of these front facing companies. But the front facing layer uses words like sustainable, uses words like we're doing this for the environment. So when you go to the Blue Triton website, they have the word on there, sustainability, sustainable. Well, this was actually challenged in court. And this was an article from the intercept. it says bottled water giant blue triton admits claims of recycling and sustainability are puffery. So they were sued under unfair and deceptive trade practices act. And they said, well, these words like,

we believe deeply and sustainability. These are aspirational terms and they really can't be proven true or false. So in the court documents, those words were called non-actionable puffery. So when you see these words, you're looking at just some slick, really slick PR, which is kind of concerning. but one of the biggest videos coming out of the water industry was in the early 2000s, and I want to remind viewers of this, this was the head of Nestle at the time, and he was discussing, is water a human right? If you haven't seen this video, it's time you watch it. Take a look. So, water is, naturally, the most

the raw material that we're all right now on the world have. It's about, how it is normal water-versorgue of the people, privatize or not. And there are two different and the one of the one of an issue, I would I say, will I would say, will be from some of the NGOs

who are that they're upho, that water to an a, um, a, um, the public right that is, as a man,

should they just have just right have, um, to have. That is the one extreme solution. And the other, the other, that's

a life-mittle, so as every other life-mittles, should that a market-were Wow. Yet again, it's like another Bond villain that is running such an important company.

And as I sit here and watch this, Jeffrey, I mean, this is in real time. I was just thinking, you mentioned, one of these bottling companies that, you know, I've had water delivered to my house. I brag about drinking spring water. I think we all have got to sort of come to terms with. How do we start, you know, making a difference? We've got to withdraw our voting dollars, if you will, from these companies that are stealing from our farmers, stealing from our citizens,

and find new ways. And so in many ways, honey, if you're watching this, as I know you are, I think we've got to get our filtration systems up on our house and running again. And we just can't be supporting these companies that are basically corporatizing and monopolizing what I do believe is a human right. If water isn't a human right, then what's next? Oh my God. Exactly. We just got done where air was illegal to breathe.

It's kind of scary. Sorry to make some more work for your household. That is a very key step here. We all have to do our part, right? It's not easy. It's not easy to live rightly in this world these days. Let's jump over to a new bill that the Biden administration, actually Joe Biden just signed. This was the Inflation Reduction Act.

He just signed this into law. This was the headline here. Biden signs inflation reduction act into law. And that's how it was, that's how it was shown to the world. That's how it was marketed, if he will, was to reduce inflation. US is having some record inflation right now. And a lot of people were looking to this for some type of, of a break from this inflation, but as soon as that was signed, the headlines switched and they

started to look like this. One thing the Inflation Reduction Act may not do, lower inflation. Another headline, Inflation Reduction Act will have no measurable impact on inflation economists say. It says here in this article, our preliminary analysis of the Inflation Reduction Act, IRA, a climate tax and health focus bill shows it will boost the level of GDP by about point two to point three percent by the end of 2031 and despite its name will have no measurable impact on inflation oxford economics economists wrote in a new note and we have a chart here that's accompanying this article and it's kind of a breakdown of because these bills are so large they the economists broke down these what was in this bill and it was about uh 430 billion dollar price tag over the

next 10 years on this bill and you can see here more than half of it they say about approximately 370 billion is new energy clean energy taxes you can see energy tax credits clean fuel and electric vehicle tax credits money for conservation new clean manufacturing tax credits another problematic situation on this that many have reported as the bottom left in that blue column was the outlay for increased IRS enforcement there's about 80 billion dollars that was put forward to you know as a big part of funding this was increased IRS enforcement so Americans are facing obviously. When I've listened to this, like

87,000 IRS, it's only there for the rich. I mean, you know what? I'd have been really happy if you just said, we're going to get one new IRS agent and he's going after Bezos and Gates. You can basically name these guys that you keep hearing paid taxes on their

$80,000 salary as I have to look at they're like the richest men in the world. You know, you didn't need 87,000 agents to go get the money from them, which I'm sure is gigantic. gigantic, so you have to assume it's coming to a household near you. And because this is such an energy-focused bill, Jennifer Grantholm, she's the United States Secretary of Energy under Biden, was asked about this on a local, or an interview recently,

and she was asked, look, people are facing a lot of inflation here. People are having a hard time paying their bills. What is this going to mean for them? Take a listen. You could make the same argument we were talking about tax breaks for ad, solar panels, energy efficient windows, appliances, heat pumps. You know, what do you say to the families who simply can't afford this stuff in the first place? Well, number one, for your home, yes, there are significant incentives in this bill, which is great to reduce people's energy costs on a monthly basis. So if you are low income, you can get your home entirely weatherized through the expansion from the bipartisan infrastructure law.

significant expansion, you don't have to pay for anything. If you want heat pumps, insulation, new windows, that is covered. If you are moderate income, today you can get 30% off the price of solar panels. Those solar panels can be financed, so you don't have to have the big outlay at the front. And when they're financed, they're financed in a way that reduces your energy bill, even though you have solar panels with this 30% off. It's a significant incentive. Same thing, with if you want if you don't qualify for the weatherization program you will be able to starting next year get rebates on the the appliances and equipment that will help you reduce your monthly energy bill by up to 30 percent this is all about reducing costs for people and yet the electricity

prices continue to go up i listen to that and i try to imagine all the lower income housing projects across the country as they're reinstulating and having new windows put in not that is never going to happen and they know that i mean frankly if you're in that tax bracket considered low income you are so hard at work trying to get through the day and trying to get food on your table the last thing you're doing is auditioning you know contractors and who's paying them to come in and start reinstating your house for so that you know by uh you know 15 years from now you'll have like netted out you know some advancement in the cost of your energy i mean look It's hard for me.

This topic is going to always be hard for me because deep down, I want energy efficiency. I want a cleaner planet. But this is all a ruse. It's just like saying sustainable on the plastic water bottles. It's not. You're just feeding us things you want to hear. But what you're really doing is just putting out agents to start tracking our energy systems and what we're doing and carbon credit scores and all this baloney.

Watching Granholm is like watching a bad infomercial. She's basically saying the energy prices aren't going down, but, you know, if you're low income, go ahead and weatherize your home. Right. And hey, this week, 30% off solar panels for medium income. It's not an answer. I totally agree with you on that point. We're reducing the Tesla's cost from 140,000 to 115,000 this week only rush out for this amazing deal. Right.

And speaking of that, this is what California, shortly after that bill was signed, these are the headlines that came out of California. California to ban the sale of new gasoline cars. the switchover, I mean, I don't see how this switchover is going to happen that quickly, but let's go back to the energy here. Well, hold on a second. I mean, I always tell, by the way, everybody, I was like, Jeffrey, we got to really, like, get through this, we got a big show, but here's the point. I had a thought this week about electric cars.

You know, I realized as we, and I drove at Tesla for a little while, we tried it out in our family, and then for mostly because it was just way too expensive and impossible to travel long distances, I suppose they're going to work on that someday. But as you're plugging that thing in, and, you know, that is an energy source that you know it is tracking that car. Like, don't tell me that there's not some code going back and forth so they know exactly what cars it's going to do. It's not an anonymous transaction like fuel in your car would be. So as we think about this world where they want to track and they want to control us and carbon credit scores, they're going to know how much mileage you drove, how fast you're driving.

That little computer is going to hook up and download everywhere you've been. All of this. And you want to shut someone down, especially because, because you're going to know how much. because I drove one of these cars for a little while. You got about 220 miles and then you've got to pull over for like a five-hour stop to get some energy. What happens all of a sudden, sorry you haven't paid your carbon credit scores or whatever it is. You're not going anywhere. And as we've talked about, it seems like they're really trying to compress our living standards like they were in Australia,

banning you from going like a kilometer from your house. What better way to do that than have everyone on electric cars so that we can control when and how they drive? All of these things, folks, we've got to keep our eye on. the ball, you know, when we think we've overcome some vaccine, you know, tracking system, they're tracking some other part of our lives. We've got to get smart. I'm not against, by the way, electric cars for those out there, but we have a power grid that can't handle it. We're already, and I know we're going to get into some of those conversations, but really wake up America, wake up world. This isn't what we're being told. And here's another headline that goes right

along with what you're saying. This was a tsunami of shutoffs. This is what's happening in America right now. This is just the start. 20 million U.S. homes are behind on energy bills. That's about one in six, it says in the article. That's a big deal. But to take a look at really where the United States may be headed, we look over to Europe and they're ahead of us by about a year with this going into a winter of big uncertainties. And this is what the headlines are looking like in the UK right now. UK spring energy prices over 6,000 pounds, winter power crisis, blackouts, loom for Christmas. Oh my gosh, but it says in here, this was the key part of the article. This is why I pulled this out. Those who get into debt could be moved to prepayment meters, PPMs, where they have to pay in advance

for gas and electricity, plus pay extra each time they top up to pay off the money owed. PPMs are controversial because homes are cut off if they run out of money. If a consumer has no credit after an emergency cushion typically 10 pounds they received no energy in the past energy firms had to obtain a court order to physically install a ppm with a slot for a key or card to to add top-ups typically bought at a local news agent but it has emerged this week that families with smart meters will be automatically switched to prepayment plans if they can't pay their bills so this is what it's looking like on the ground in the u.k energy bills are skyrocketing and what's the answer well we have a lot of solar panels We have a lot of wind turbines, right?

That's going to just seamlessly switch over. Nope. Sorry, this is what the headlines are also looking like out of the UK. Libraries and museums to be warm havens for people struggling with energy bills. So now you go to your local library. Germany, same thing. Warming rooms for Germans as energy crisis threatens to cause winter bedlam. But with Germany, that's an interesting study, an interesting case because two years ago,

we were seeing headlines like this. Germany was supposed to be all set. This is April 2020. Germany exceeds 50% renewable energy use milestone. They made the milestone. They made what they were supposed to do. They had an A plus. January 2021, just a year later, we're greeted to headlines like this.

Renewables produce more power than fossil fuels in Germany for first time. Well, surely they must be fine. No warming rooms for people in the winter. And that's happening also in Spain. This is what their headlines are looking like across the summer. We're having high temperatures there. Is it realistic for Spain to set their air conditioning limit at 27 Celsius? during summer. This is government ordered. That's 80 degrees roughly 80.6 degrees Fahrenheit for people

with the conversion. So you can't have your air conditioner to lower that in Spain in public buildings, universities, libraries. France is doing the same thing. They're setting heating limits for winter and summer cooling limits. What are the limits of air conditioning in France? Basically 66 degrees Fahrenheit in winter. That's the highest you can go in 78 Fahrenheit in summer. That's the lowest you can go. So these energy bills. You can't have your air conditioning and using. it too. That's right. Amazing. And these bills are no joke. There was a person he was an Italian ice cream maker. He took to Twitter and this was Radio Genova. They posted some pictures of his bills. He was holding his bills up. And it's basically he has a bill of 1,371 euros. And during

the same period of time a year later, when these prices are higher, he has to pay now 5,128 euros, And the conversion rate for anybody out there is about one to one to the U.S. dollar. Well, forget about it. Just think about your own bill right now. Can you imagine if it was five times what it was last year? We have friends in Ireland right now that have been telling us that what they're all saying amongst each other. This is middle class that they're being reduced to a heat or eat philosophy. Do we put our money in food or in heating our home right now? I mean, these are First World Nations folks. This is. you know, when we think about reporting, when we think about, I know you're sitting here in America broadcasting the show, so many around the world that are watching, you know what we're talking about, but I'm telling you, we're asleep at the wheel here in America. Folks, this is the tsunami warning, right? The little meters are out there in the ocean and they're going off in England, in First World Nations,

Germany, where we were told, oh, they're energy independent because they use solar energy. Well, we had energy independence with Donald Trump. That was one of the things that I thought, you know, I didn't agree with everything. But I sure like that idea. And let me be perfectly clear about my perspective on that, too, as environmentalists and the argument I have with my own family. If we eventually get off of all fossil fuels and don't drive cars or our vehicles get around, fine. You know, I'll accept that moment when it comes. But right now, we're using those fuels.

And so the solution cannot be shut down drilling in our national parks, shut down drilling and coal mining here in America, and then just offshort and say we're going to buy it from Russia, where they're going to contaminate the earth and contaminate the air and create the same pollution we're worried about here. Don't buy it from China and Russia and, you know, Iran and the Middle East and then say you've achieved something. You only achieve something if you actually figure out a way around these energy supplies. But if we need these things, then here's where I'm at. I'm not down with starting wars in other countries to rape and pillage their land for their fossil fuels. We should be getting it right here from our own land. And yes, it bums me out because I'm a hiker, I'm a backpacker. And when I think about our national

parks, but we've got to clean up our own act, folks. We've got to figure out our way through these things, but while we need energy, I am all about it coming from inside our borders. I want the power of our nation to be in our hands, not in Putin's hand. I don't want to hear some headline from the guy that shut down some pipelines saying it's Putin's fault. Our gas is too expensive. No, it's your fault, idiot, because you decided I guess we were buying gas from our enemy. Lo and behold, that turned out to be a bad idea. All right. I'm in a mood today. Can you tell? Jeez.

All right. Everyone should be in this same mood right now. This is very serious information. And I really share this video to anybody that doesn't believe this is happening. This is what's happening in the UK. Remember, we reported that the UK government is paying farmers, buying them out of their business, generational farmers. They're giving them a lump sum to get out of farming.

And at the same time, we see headlines like this coming out of the UK. This is a supermarket offering interest-free loans. of up to 100 pounds on food bills. How to claim. These are called microloans for people that can't pay their food bills. And what is that ripple effect? We talk about public health. This is a professor. He took to Twitter. His name is Professor Karim Brohi. He's a clinical director of the London Major Trauma Network. He's a vascular and trauma surgeon for Bart's Health NHS Trust. So, you know, this isn't some night shift guy. This is a guy who really has a bird's eye view of what's going on in his corner of the world there. And this is what he wrote on Twitter.

Multiple admissions for attempted suicide overnight, again, jumped because can't afford to eat again. He goes on to say, this isn't the only manifestation of these financial pressures we see. Lots of violence, especially domestic abuse, more alcohol-related injuries, multiple jobs leading to tiredness and accidents. And we're only part of the NHS. Same across social care, education, everywhere. And here in the U.S., we're seeing dominoes. We're seeing similar stories starting to pop up in the news. This is what the New York Post had to say. Food inflation skyrocketing grocery prices make it cheaper to eat out than dine in. This is the next headline. I believe this is Bloomberg. Egg prices in U.S. jump 47 percent as food inflation hits 1979 highs. And across the world, as we've been reporting and so many others have for the last couple months, farmers are rising up. They're rebelling in their countries against these green energy initiatives that are essentially shutting them down with no alternatives. And this is some of the footage we're being told by.

our colleagues in Europe that all these videos are being blacked out in the media there the only place to get these there are on select social media accounts take a look at this France Timmermans from the EU says he wants to have Europe 25% organic farming well it's only causing hunger for 30 million people do not see much coverage on the national press so I'm glad we're showing that footage because folks when you live in a nation like ours it's outsourcing so much of our food supply now and so many of the things that we need here, you can say and go, oh, my God, look what's happening in those other countries. Guess what? That is going to be our food shortage and our food issue

right around the corner. And you know, they're shutting down farmers basically in the middle of food crisis, let's be honest. So what's a solution? They're not going to make us see bugs, are they, Del? I really hope not. Let's take a look at what Hollywood is talking about these days. Check it out. I'm Nicole Kidman, and I am going to eat a four-cost. meal of bugs. You start with crickets. Yeah. Crickets in a beer and then you kind of, you know, move up to tarantulas. Have you, as a part of your life, have you routinely eaten bugs? Not routinely, but look, I'm salivating. They're delicious. That's an insect-based premium protein. It's made from Molitorre, which is mealworm larvae.

This is a powder derived from the mealworm, and it's an insect protein just been approved by the EU for For human consumption. One time I had like, it was like live larva. What did that taste like? Kind of like creamed corn. These are grasshopper kebabs. A teriyaki marinated, quite delicious. Just a little side note.

Two billion people in the world. Eat. And I'm one of them. Want to share a spider? Hot? It's actually really good the flavor. Mmm. Extraordinary.

Oh no, do you want to try it? You want to try one? Are you trying? Are you trying? You're not having to. You don't have to. You don't have to. Now this is big in China.

Chocolate covered crickets. Yes! The first one, Zach, is a scorpion toast. See, this is not a big deal. I don't know. In fact, you know what? I'm just going to pop this guy right off. Okay.

It's really good. It's hard to chew. The fried grasshopper. These are a... are amazing. But there will come a time that the world, the population close to $8 billion now, we will have to exploit these other sources of food, and some cultures are way ahead of us.

So that's a good thing. We're doing something incorrectly. If we make this switch, it's a huge, huge intervention. Telling you, I'd wing survivor. It's really crazy. Even Iron Man? I mean, man, when you watch those videos, people will say, you know,

they've been developing these ways to take over the, world for a long time. Like you look at that like Zach Ephron like wow they've been at this a long time like planting these seeds. I mean I get it we're like cats it's hard-hurning cats it takes a long time but we really I'm starting to see more and more headlines and you know cricket flowers and things like that it's really wild. Is this where we're going? Right and so the trickle-down effect you see that happening in the pre-positioning the pre-marketing through the television and through media there but is it really happening in our backyards? Take a look at this school in Manitoba, Canada. and see what you think.

These are prairie cricket farms. Now, they are in Miami, Manitoba. Anybody know where Miami Manitoba is? And what you're going to find if you're willing to try one of these crickets is it kind of tastes like chips. For example, I have the smoky barbecue flavor. And you go. Just chalking up to one more reason I don't believe in public school systems.

I mean, my God. How long until they're like school board meetings where parents are like, I don't want my kids eating any more bugs. With a mask? Hopefully not. Well, where did all this come from? All of a sudden, this came from these prepositioning. But let's look at the headlines here.

So eating insects. This is one of the headlines. Eating insects is good for you and the planet. Researchers insist. Another one, eat bugs to slow global warming. Scientists say, if we learn anything through the COVID pandemic, researchers and scientists and officials need to be questioned. So, you know, it may even be.

going from the schools to your shelves in your house. Check out some of these products. They're already putting crickets in some of these. So this is actually foods. You can see here on the ingredients list, you see organic cricket flour. It's sustainably farm, though, so that's good. I don't see free range. So I don't know if these are free range. Crickets, people who are allergic to shelfish may also be allergic to crickets. I guess they're like in the same family. Interesting. It seems like That would be, there's a huge shellfish allergy. Who knew that you can't eat like, what, cockroaches and crickets? I just learned something today.

Oh, there it is again. Another allergy device. Yeah, chocolate chirp cookies. That's a nice little play on words there. We have a cookie mix as well, something that's good for the kids. You can make with the parents. There you go. You have the same thing.

Grasshoppers. And that's not where it's stopping either. So we have the Washington Post. This is actually from 2016. mealworm margarine. That sounds really appealing. Could be right around the corner. Would you try it? There's that prepositioning again. And we have another headline here, faux meat burgers made from maggots and mealworms. I mean, boy, do they have a hard time with the PR on this one to really cut this quarter to make this sound appealing?

Yeah, just call it impossible meat and let's just move on our way, right? Exactly. But as we report on this, you know, our show is based on the science. we look into the literature and that's really what we're going to bring this back to. So those headlines are funny, but deadly serious too because it appears they're really going to try to push this. So are there any issues, safety issues, adverse effects? Quite a bit, as it turns out in the literature already. So this is one of the headlines here.

This is from a study, bread made of powdered crickets may be loaded with bacterial spores. This is a study out of University of Nebraska. This next one, it says edible insects as a source of food allergens. Another study, a parasitological evaluation of edible insects in their role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans and animals. They say edible insects are an underestimated reservoir of human and animal parasites. You don't say. And even this one, obviously a big problem with antibiotic resistance. But we have this here.

Insects represent link for antibiotic resistant traits because they carry antibiotic resistant bacteria. Not surprising for anybody, but when you see it in the scientific literature broke down like that, There's a big problem there. There's a lot of research that still needs to be done if they want to jump and bridge this gap. And they're already putting it in the food. So it's obviously we need to keep an eye out for what's happening here. It's, you know, I think we're all just sitting here thinking, did I just go to bed and wake up in some sort of strange sci-fi cartoon?

I mean, this is what a farm will look like in the future. And I mean, how many freaking crickets? Where's PETA on this? I mean, how many crickets does it take? you know, to make up for one cow. Are we like 50,000 sentient life forms to replace the one that we used to get with the meat we got from a cow? I mean, it's really sad. You know what bothers me the most about it is there's real farmers, there's real people whose lives that are at stake.

Really the heart of America and what built this country is our farming, is our ranching. And I think that's true around the world. It truly is when we think about, you know, the salt of the earth and what it means to be a hardworking citizen in your country. It's always been our farmers and now they're under attack and behind that is our food supply, which is under attack. I'm not down. I'm not down with mandated, you know, bug diets and so we better get on top of this. Jeffrey, great reporting, amazing stuff this week. Thank you.

Thank you, Del. Thank you so much. All right. Take care. Now, look, if you like Jeffrey Jackson's work that he does here on the highway every week, you can always go to the website, the highwire.com and check out the Jackson report where he's always writing articles and getting a lot deeper into all of these issues that we're discussing. Today, you know, really this theme in many ways is around food supply. It's something that we've talked about before. And for those of you watching, if you've been

watching from the beginning, we've been very heavy into drugs and vaccines especially. And, you know, I think we've made ourselves famous as really having predicted where all of these vaccine issues were going to be. We knew the vaccine wasn't going to work. But our mission statement is dedicated to eradicating man-made disease, and it comes in many forms, whether it's the air we breathe, the water we drink, but certainly the food we eat. For some people, food is medicine. There are people that really are so specific out where their food comes from because they're not taking vitamins. They're not taking other supplements.

They want sort of that world that if you watch the interviews I've had with Zach Bush, where there are farms with real nutrients in the ground that haven't been killed by pesticides and herbicides, where when the cows eat from that, they're getting the real nutrients. When the herbs and the vegetables are grown in that earth, you're getting all the vitamins out of that food. There are people that are dedicated this to supporting the farmers that are keeping these farmers alive with healthy soil and bacteria in that soil and all the minerals it takes to survive so we wouldn't need vitamins. Can you imagine such a world like the one like our grandparents grew up? up in and maybe our parents. And can you imagine if one of these farmers that's, you know, really showing the world how this can be done with one of the most immaculate and beautiful utopian farms

there is where the soil is rich in feeding his fruits and vegetables and feeding his animals so that it goes on to feed those that are buying from him, can you imagine if that approach to farming was illegal? Well, it appears that that is what the USGA is attempting. They're attempting to attack especially one farmer that is being used as the example against them all. I'm talking about Amos Miller, and he got pretty popular in the news this week for hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines and a threat of going to jail for growing beautiful organic foods. This is what that story looked like in the news. A Lancaster County farmer facing fines and could possibly go to jail for repeatedly violating food safety laws. The government is arguing that the farm isn't adhering to federal regulatory requirements concerning food,

while the farm argues that this is just the latest attack on independent farmers giving their communities healthy food. You have this back and forth between the giant empire of the U.S. federal government and this tiny little farm in Burdenham, Pennsylvania. Amos Miller lives quietly, raising cows, chickens, sheep, and camels. He sells the unprocessed meat and dairy products to a private association. Prosecutors condemn his quote, singular historic willingness to flout demonstration. democratically enacted federal food safety laws. The USDA's job is to make sure that the meat and poultry that ends up in your fridge is safe, wholesome, and correctly packaged and labeled.

But Miller says the inspection process inherently makes these foods unhealthier. They want to use Amos as an example to make sure that other farmers, especially farmers in this area, do not try to do what Amos has done, which is to sell directly. to the customers. They're coming after an independent, successful farmer who takes out the government middlemen and provides food directly to his community. Really a story, I think, of a small farmer

up against a Goliath machine, in this case, the USDA and the U.S. government, has been making headlines. And I want to state right up front that my family actually is a part of a food co-op where we have food delivered to us, including raw milk, raw cheese, different meat products from Amish farms up in Pennsylvania. Because I and my family and those in this co-op see food, not just as something we eat to fill

our stomachs, but we actually see food as medicine, which is why this story is very important to me, and I want to explain to you, I do have a bias. You should know that when I have this conversation. Now, though this has been making headlines due to... Amish philosophy or the religious beliefs, if you will. Amos has not been doing television interviews, but he did agree to join us at this moment by phone from his farm in the middle of his very busy day. So I'm honored right now to be joined by Amos Miller.

Amos, first of all, how are you doing today? And thank you for joining us. Sure. I'm doing fine. It's a present day here in Pennsylvania. God is good. All right. God is good indeed. As I had just expressed, we order food because of how you raise it, how you treat that food. But for those that are unaware of the difference between, you know, conventional, big agricultural farming and how it's done on your farm, what would you say is the difference in how you're raising your cattle?

Well, we like access to fresh air, green grass. and they also get the special herbs that God created. We don't like to seed new seeds every year. Rather, we just want to supply what nature. Every now and then, we do seed a little bit of clover. But if you don't, the till the soil are too hard on it, basically all those have medicinal reasons for the cow. And if they produce food, give milk from those forages they are eating,

that basically that nutrition content grows in the milk that you want to consume for your own medicinal health. So you see the earth is providing what your cattle need to be eating these fresh herbs and these different medicinal features that take care of your cows versus just you're not just pouring corn in a grain bin in the middle of some dirt field in the middle of nowhere with cows living on top of each other in many ways, you know, living in their own filth. your experience in the way your cattle are raised is much different. Do you think, as we are concerned about things like e coli or Listeria or these types of, you know, problems in food, do you think that some of that is the product of that sort of industrialized farming practice

that maybe your cows are less vulnerable to those things? Is that a thought of yours? Yes, indeed. That's correct. Okay. And so now you have been, you know, really, I don't know if under attack is the right word, have been under investigation in dealing with the USDA for over six years, multiple accusations, large fines currently are dealing with, I think, over $300,000 in fines.

What is the USDA telling you you're doing wrong for those of us that don't understand what this argument is about? That's a good question. Be and no one had complained about our products that they got hurt or got sick or nobody has complained to them about our... Rather they are trying to make a statement that they're doing is to keep the food supply safe. Well, that's a good question. Is the food supply safe means the cancer, diabetes, heart problems have skyrocketed the past few years. I don't think that has very much standing.

The reason people come to us is because they trust the source. They like the idea of cows going out on grass, eating these special herbs. And they believe our products are extremely nutrient dense for those reasons. So that's the reason that members coming direct to the farm. And so in some ways, do you feel that you're just being, in one of the interviews, there was a local journalist that said that they're just making. an example of you to scare all the other Amish farmers around you from thinking that you should be growing food this way and presenting it to customers. Do you think they're making

an example of you? Yes, they are indeed. Well, that's a huge responsibility. Now, when it comes to the USDA, where is it that they want to intervene? My understanding is that the issue comes with the fact that you're not using their processing plants, that you are butchering your cattle, your yourself and delivering your product directly to the consumers and taking out that middleman, which is a USDA-based packaging plan. Do I have a clear, is that a clear understanding of what's going on here?

Yeah. I want to get USDA federal inspected. And with that plan, you have to have an intervention plan in place and either apply citric acid or bleach or you have to use possibly some steam, anything to prohibit the bacteria from growing. And our membership base, they want their meat, no preservatives, no intervention plan on them. They just want to clean raw meat. They believe that using those treatments, especially bleats and citric acid, is basically more harmful to them than a small amount of bacteria is.

We have another option of going to other USDA facility plants, but They are booked. There's not many of them around because the rules and regulations are so difficult to come by. It's almost impossible to comply with them and stay in business. I understand. And just to be clear, because I think this is something that a lot of the people in our audience understand, you have basically a private membership association, correct? They are members of this food club, let's say.

And so in many ways, was your understanding that that then sort of takes you out of the usual food system where the USDA is involved because people like myself are becoming members with your farm and your products because we want that direct delivery from the farmer for the reasons you've said. And let me be clear. And this is going to be we're going to get into also I have a guest coming up, Max Kane, to discuss how. there is a belief in many of us that the bacteria that's in the meats and in the foods is actually a part of the medicinal value that it has in our bodies and that going to these plants and using these chemicals wipes it out. I'll tell you, for me, it would make a difference if I know that it's not coming from your farm, but it's going through a processing plant where they're putting all the chemicals and things to kill the bacteria, then that sort of would

undermine the reason I'd be going to you as a farmer. Did you think that that private membership was sort of a protection around that since we are making a contract directly with you that that should have you know sort of put aside what the government sees as you know a problem for consumers this isn't just any consumer in a store we are making a choice to to go to you for your food products so tell me about the private membership and how you thought it was going to protect you to the first of 14th amendment we have a private right to contract if I'm not mistaken.

And me and the consumer agrees that we don't, they won't hold me responsible if they do get sick and they won't hold against the government. And plus they have educated themselves and they want to take their health in their own hands and not have someone else tell them what they should and should not eat. I mean, I agree with not trying to harm your body

by having lots of alcohol and that should. should be regulated if it destroys your mind. But if they have educated themselves that they want nutrient dense, you should have that right to help fulfill their needs, to build the temple that God has created within them to serve him better. I agree. You know, I know that part of, you know, the Amish experience, I've had the opportunity to visit farms, you know, through some of the work that I've done. And there's a real desire to just be left alone. obviously does not have too much influence from our high-tech world where I think in many ways where we have gone mad we have a really a skewed value system that is leaving our family

behind is leaving our faith behind and so I know that it's even difficult for you to sort of appear here because it goes against that desire to just be left alone and to do things the way that you've done it for generations and to be clear how many generations in your family have been farming using these techniques? Oh, we at least three, maybe five generations. Wow. And so as you find yourself in this situation where the whole goal really is to just raise your children

and your families in these natural places, not really dealing with governments and things like that, and now you're facing my understanding next month, you could potentially go to jail for some accusation of contempt of court. How do you see your place in this? It's almost as though you're being torn out of that form and forced into the public eye

when that's the exact opposite of what you want. Where's your sense of your responsibility here? Well, I have a story to tell from my grandfather. My grandfather, back in the 1950s or 1960s, he took the stand of not sending his past the eighth grade for a couple of reasons. One is that he wanted to keep them on the farm and learn from him, also to keep them away from the outside world of views. So he actually was so, and he took the stand, and I'm so grateful that he did. at that time because now today we have the opportunity of sending our children to the private school due to a U.S. Supreme Court in Wisconsin made that ruling that we should have that private, we should

have that option. So we're very grateful that he took the stand and it helps to keep family farms alive and it's so important that we learn our children how to be farmers. So just to be clear, we're having some issue, obviously, with the technology, ironically, with your phone up there. But if I understand this, your grandfather back in the 1960s took the stand because he was fighting to be able to keep the families on the farm and not go off to school in eighth grade. And because he stood that ground, Wisconsin had a ruling that sort of made possible so that your farms and your families could stay together the way you you wanted them to is that did I hear that correctly that's correct okay and so then it

runs in your family to stand up for what you believe in now these fines seem astronomical you know $300,000 fine and my understanding is part of that fine is you know the fine for not adhering to the the government but Am I to understand they're also charging you for the hours that is spent by the FBI or the agents that are in sort of investigating your farm? They're making you pay for those agents that are having to visit your farm. Is that correct? That's correct, yes. They want me to pay for their time for being on the farm and trying to do their investigation.

Okay, so I just want to put it out there to our audience that these fines, are being levied. And folks, if they get away of this, if our government gets away with this and they're able to shut Amos down, then they shut down an entire way of life, one in which people like myself, maybe not you, doesn't have to distribute, there's a free country. You don't have to live the way that I do, but this really is important to those of us that want food sources that are not being contaminated by industrial farming. And so right now, you have been such an active audience. Even, you know, when we had Maddie, just a couple weeks ago. Incredible job helping her out. I want to be thankful to you. But right now, let's help Amos Miller out. Let's help them with these fines and show the government that we're going to stand behind farmers that are simply doing what's right, raising their animals in a beautiful environment. This is the Gibson Go, which I want to thank Gibson Go for making these opportunities available to people like Amos. But please, what, whatever you can, every dollar, you know, $5, if you're affluent, you can really help out here.

I think this is such an important cause. It may just be one farm and one farmer right now, but as the saying goes, as Amos goes, so go the rest. And this could be the end of organic farming truly as we know it, because this is the truest form of organic farming. I could not you know, be more emphatic about our need to support Amos right now. Amos, what is your plan going forward? Is this, I mean, are you contemplating sort of giving in and just running your food through these packaging plants where they're going to put chemicals, or will you just shut down the membership organization or are you just going to keep fighting no matter what happens? What, you know, what are the conversations you're having with your family right now?

is to stay in business. So as of now the way things are going, we might have to take our animals to the USDA plant. But at the same time, we want to encourage the whole nation to contact the congressmen, senators, to change the laws. So as farmers can be farmers. If you want food, it will be up to you to get active in changing the laws. Prime Act is one that would really help us farmers to stay in business and to slaughter on our farm. move that forward, that would be great. Okay, well, then you've given us our marching orders is what we can do as citizens is to support that. And so once again, if you're watching the show for the first time, all the details, the links to Farm Act and others will be here and sent to you.

By the way, if you're watching the show and you're not a part of our newsletter, please get on our newsletter. Just sign up at thehighwire.com. Just scroll down the page and go ahead and sign up there so that you can get directly involved. That's what the high wire is all about. Amos, I know, you know, your... It's a petition that we would like to have everyone sign if possible. Rebel News has that. Okay.

You know how to get a hold of that. All right, here it is in front of everybody. Rebel News. Thank you for your work. Thank you for going out to this farm and getting this out into the news. And you can sign this petition, which I hope everyone will... We're at 30,842 signatures. Let's see where we're at next week.

All of you, Highwire Insiders out there. this is where we can make a difference. Amos, I just want to tell you that, you know, you and I live completely different lives, I'm sure, but there are so many people like myself that see you as a hero in this moment that is standing up for what's good in humanity. And I hope that you feel our prayers and our encouragement as we are supporting you through this very, I'm sure, difficult time. but no, I believe that all of these things that happen happen for a reason. And I believe in some way you've been chosen to stand in this fight. And I want to thank you for standing up for what's right and for joining us today to share your story.

Sure, my pleasure. Thank you all for your supporting prayers. That is really making it. It is. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. And you have a beautiful day.

You too. Thanks. All right. Well, you know, this is sort of, you can see how a government, this is where my politics has really shifted in so many ways, where as a liberal progressive growing up, it just seemed like the government was the answer to everything. But as I've matured and as I have gone down the rabbit hole through the investigations, I've done both on the high wire, but even back when I was at CBS on the daytime talks to the doctors and the work that I was doing there, I started to see a different picture, and you realize that in many ways, government is the worst way to handle almost everything. And it starts with probably a good idea. Look, there are farmers out there that don't care about their animals, don't treat their animals well. There's stress. There's horrible conditions. Then out of those conditions is meat that isn't being processed well.

And we can only imagine how disgusting some of those places are. And so, yes, you want a regulatory agency to step in. and say, hey, hold on a second, you're going to get people killed or you probably have gotten people killed. So we see how this starts. But it gets to a certain point when you look at the beauty of that farm. You visit, you know, how Amos and people like him are butchering their cattle and the care with which they're disinfecting, not using chemicals, but things like vinegar and natural products that you and I know work. And here's the thing. This is a membership. It's a private membership. Shouldn't I be allowed to make the decision and say, hey, I trust this person with my

life and I am making a contract with them. And so I appreciate what the government's doing, but I don't need you to step in here into our private matters. And so, you know, when we think about this, we've got to try and get back to some balance because this is just regulations and government out of control. It's not being sensible now. And it's using, you know, in this case, as an example, but he, you know, as though they want to talk about the lives they're protecting. I can't, we have no idea how many lives have been saved by the way that Amos and others like him are delivering their food sources. And that's why this next story I think is so important. I have talked about Max Kane. We have discussed and had him on the show talking about the farmwork

and farm match and the things that he's doing. But I think it's important to understand his personal story. Why is it he cares so much about organic farming? Well, the truth is, is because it saved his life. He may not be alive today if it weren't for farmers like Amos. And this is Max's story. I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago. I was really active as a young child. I was out running the neighborhood with other children. I was just 10 years old and when out of the blue, I started experiencing just this terrible burning sensation in my upper abdomen and it lasted for three days straight. Then the pain went away. I was just about to turn 11. Then the pain come back and except this time it never went away. My skin started becoming kind of pale white and then I started

experiencing joint pain as well. My elbows, my knees, my shoulders, my hips just started feeling really chronically in pain. So I went to a family. practitioner and at the time my parents were getting divorced and she thought it had something to do with emotional pain so I kept going back to her over and over and after about in a year after seeing her she sent me to the University of Chicago for them to scope me they found 34 ulcers throughout my small bowel in the duodenum and the rest of the small bowel the inside of my GI track was totally ulcerated they diagnosed me with degenerative Crohn's disease there was no

cure to it and no known cause and because it affected me in an area where it was degenerative in my small intestines that I could expect to die somewhere in my mid-30s. I broke down and I started crying in the doctor's office. They put me on three different medications immediately. I was put on 2,000 milligrams of an anti-inflammatory drug and then they had an antibiotic and it's a very strong steroid called prednisone. put me on 60 milligrams a day. And 60 milligrams of prednisone a day is a high dosage

for a full grown adult. So if you can imagine a young child that weighed 69 pounds, that's a very high dosage. And over the course of 10 years, I saw six different GI specialists in five different hospitals. I was in and out of the hospital several times. There would be times I would be convulsive vomiting.

I wouldn't be able to stop vomiting. I would lose weight very quickly. I would get rushed to the emergency room. Even though I was really skinny and thin, I had this big fat face. I was holding all this water, and the medications never really fully help. I was in my mid-20s. You know, I was very close to death.

I was emaciated. There wasn't much joy and action in my life. One day, I'm on the way to Walgreens to get my prescription filled. And at the time, someone really close to me in my life was using heroin on a daily basis. And I was watching how the heroin and their behavior was just destroying their life and taking it in a dark

direction. You know, I was giving them all this advice on how could they, how they could take charge of their life and make change and make a difference. As I was driving into the drive-through, I felt like I was the drug user here. My drug dealer was Walgreens and I immediately saw how I wasn't taking action toward my own health and that that was the turning point in my life. I started attending lectures and seminars. I read this book that talked about making raw kaffir this dairy product that was consumed raw by this old ancient tribe of people in the Caucasus Mountains. I read that kaffir could not only help with Crohn's disease, but digestive issues in general.

Up until this point, every time I had a meal, I would eat or drink anything, even sometimes water, I would experience pain. The first time I drank kaffir in the kitchen, it went down smooth in my digestive track and there was no pain. And so right away I thought, wow, there's something here. I can live on this stuff. I do live on it. I thrive on it. It's illegal to sell raw milk in stores is because it's not pasteurized.

There was only three certified organic goat farms at the time when one was in Wisconsin. And so I had to drive up there every week and buy fresh raw goat milk from them right from the farm and I would take it home and make kaffir out of it and I started feeling better. It was less than the year I met this nutritionist Jim Marlowe who started coaching me on not only

on not only consuming raw dairy products, but eating an all raw food diet. And I remember the first time I ate raw salmon, it was very similar to the first time I had the kaffir. There was no pain, there was no burning sensation. I decided at this point I was inspired to stop taking all my medication. And I stopped the pentazzo, the prednisone, everything, just cold turkey. And it was about a year after driving up to Wisconsin that I decided that I wanted to move up there.

surrounded by all these beautiful organic farms and this farming community. When I was 12 years old, I was told that I wouldn't live past my mid-30s. And now at the age of 45, I'm experiencing life to the fullest. I'm healthier now than I've ever been in my entire life. I've been asymptomatic and off medication for about 17 years now.

As long as I continue to live a healthy life and make healthy decisions with regards to where I live, the air I breathe, the water, I drink, the food I put in my body, as far as I'm considered, I'm going to be living disease-free for the rest of my life. Well, I want to give a caveat before I had this conversation because, you know, I'm not a doctor. This is a show that investigates medical issues, and we interview people that have sometimes really radical perspectives and treat their lives in a radical way.

This is one of those people, and so take this as you will. I am not recommending this to you. the show is not responsible for what Max Kane is about to tell you, but I will tell you, I find him fascinating, and I love people that use their own life as an example, so it's a complete and total honor to be joined right now. Thanks for having me, Doug. By you, Max, you know, you were getting emotional while you were watching that piece. What was it that was sort of getting you?

Oh, man, you're going to get me crying here. It just brought me back, you know, watching that piece just brought. be back through the past all the suffering in my life and everything that uh that I did to overcome it and it's just a very emotional story for me I mean I lived through it you know so someone else might you know you watch a beautiful movie and you emotionally you know I'm the one who lived this movie yeah so I have an invested interest in being emotionally attached to it's no way to unattach myself you know but thank you for putting it together well I mean thank you for sharing that story. It's an incredible story. And, you know, there's, I think, so many

details to it. But just getting down to sort of raw goat's milk, okay? What, you know, there are people watching this show right now. Crohn's disease used to be super rare. And I remember, like, honestly, when I first heard about it, it was like an issue for Ashkenazi Jewish men. I mean, it was like literally that specific. Now we have babies with Crohn's disease. I've done some looking at, you know, what are vaccines having to do with so many different things could be contributing to it. But, you know, issues like this, issues with, you know, the intestinal system, you're on all of these drugs, yet you go to sort of raw dairy or ghost milk. So what is that about? Like, what is the mechanism behind that at all? Yeah, well, that's a great

question that you know the body is like it's so vast and there's so much that's undiscovered in the body that we still don't know about it even with regards to all the advances we've made in technology and things and it has something to do with the cost of conversion so we all know what taxes right you know you pay there's some kind of a tax someone needs to write the book called the digestive tax or something like that okay there's some kind of cost of conversion that our body has to go through to to take the food we eat and turn it into our eyelashes, our bones, our skin, and it has something

to do with the enzymes in the food and preserving those enzymes and helping levy a smaller digestive tax. Because when we eat these processed foods that are just almost impossible for us to actually convert into body tissue, our body is taxed very heavily on that process. And it takes resources from our organs, from our bones, from all of our, like our enzyme, our internal enzyme bank account. I mean enzymes are the name that the science industry calls the mechanisms that convert like little if you can imagine the little elves in our body that are doing all the work that we're not paying attention to they call them enzymes but there might be different sources of energy and forces and molecules in

there that are doing work that we're not aware of so I like to even talk beyond enzymes but it has it has something to do with that tax that conversion of how we convert food into our body and for my particular situation, my body doesn't work on processed food. So whether whether that means my enzyme bank account is low or whatever it does, but when when I eat foods that are fresh and raw and minimally processed or processed in a healthy way like the way Kaffir is processed, my body just thrives. What was your diet like as a kid? Was it particularly bad? I mean, well it one looking back I'm saying it was bad at the

time maybe I didn't think it was bad because I was just eating kind of the standard American diet they they call it the sad diet SAD standard American diet I call it the anything goes diet because I had no nutritional integrity so I just a lot of cereal a lot of pasteurized dairy products candy at every Halloween lots of candy you know treats cookies you know just there was just no nutritional integrity there's no thought about hey what's the purpose of why we even eat in the first place you know there's no thought on And, you know, this food is actually nourishing me.

It was all about taste, price, and convenience. And that was basically the diet I grew up on. Why is it someone like you has such a severe reaction to that? And then yet other people like, I'm feeding my kid, you know, all that stuff. And they're doing just fine, you know. How do you explain that? Or I'm sure you've had a lot to think about that. Like, why am I different than other people?

I personally believe I received two MMR vaccines. So I believe it's my belief that the vaccines destroyed my immune system, made it really hard for my body to be able to handle outside toxins, outside processed molecules, whether it's food or anything like that, that my body has a hard time responding to that in a healthy immune way. So in order to kind of compensate for that, I have to eat a really, really high diet of robust enzymes and nutrients and all those vitamins in the soil that you were talking. about in the Amos Miller piece. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's what my body thrives on. And I think everyone's body thrives on those.

It's just that other people that maybe can get away with a process diet for a longer period of time, they don't feel the effects right of way. But eventually down the road, it is going to catch up with them. But like what you mentioned, I mean, autoimmune disease, Crohn's disease, it's all like skyrocketing, you know, so it's not like our health is all of a sudden getting better. So I believe that looking toward the future of our species here on planet Earth, people are going to either have to start changing the way they eat or they're going to lose the ability to reproduce. You know, on this show, because, you know, I'm here every week. I had a big health issue, you know, a year ago where I didn't show up and there's lots of questions.

I've been very honest with my audience that I ended up having, you know, hemorrhoids and other issues that I'd been ignoring. but going through the process, and I almost died. Like, shockingly, no one would think you can die from hemorrhoids. And, you know, it's such a weird thing. I made headlines. There's headlines about my hemorrhoids like, you know, anti-vaccine guy almost dies of hemorrhoids or whatever. So, you know, you've made it when your hemorrhoids make hemorrhoids. But through that experience, I had, you know, obviously I had, you know, endoscopy, copies,

and I found out that I was just, just in. inflamed, you know, through my entire body precancerous issues and things like that. And so I have gone through a really huge adjustment to my diet and working with a health coach through that amongst many other things, working out, taking better care of myself. But there's things that I was accepting like heartburn almost every night, you know, just like, oh, I get heartburn when I, you know, when I eat popcorn with the kids, I get heartburn from this, you know, and I had all my different, you know, whether it's like natural things, usually drinking lots of water when my heart, you know, when my chest is burning or I got that thick feel on my throat.

And now I'm like, you know, if I get heartburned, I'm like, oh, my God, I'm totally moving the wrong direction. Like, that is a serious distress signal in my mind. I got a volcano going on that is going to lead to huge health problems. And I think about how many people, when you see these ads, like take Prylosec, like take a drug to hide the fact that your body is screaming at you, you're dying down here. And in your case, filled with ulcers throughout your system. I had a few and things that sort of had to be removed.

Well, that's how our body communicates to us. I mean, it communicates through symptoms. And that's one of the, there's a lot of good work that the medical profession does. So I'm not here to totally bash them, right? But if you look at the structure of the medical paradigm in today's the world, it's a very like enabler kind of mindset. It's like a disease enabler, learn to live with disease, ignore the disease, ignore the symptoms, take this pill, continue with whatever lifestyle you're living that's causing

this in the first place. It's not, I don't like the word sustainable, but it's not a sustainable way to move forward with our species. It just isn't because we have to take responsibility for what we're doing, especially to ourselves, right? Yeah. And, you know, it's as real as gravity. I mean, there's no way to avoid it.

If you want to, you can, but you're going to end up dying early or suffering. in pain. Absolutely. So let's get into some specifics about you. I said, you know, I would, I hope you don't mind the word radical, but you know, like you live a, you live in a very, you know, radical way. In some ways I've said when I had my family on the show, there are things that I do with my life that is not to be brought up in this show. I'm not going to tell other people to do it. There's a lot that leads me to how I live my life as that's true for you. But you start out on this journey with raw goats milk and raw milks, but you don't eat anything cooked anymore, is that correct?

About maybe 1% of my diet is cooked. Or maybe less than 1% is barely anything. But I did go on an exclusive all-raw diet for about five years. And then after five years' time, I was wondering, like, what would happen if I ate some cooked food? What would that experience be like? So I'm now at a point where I like to, I got my health just thriving, and I like to experiment on myself and kind of not with junk food.

I'm, I know. There's no more junk food in Canada. I already know. But sometimes I like to experiment and say what would happen if I ate this cooked and just kind of see what happens with my body. But it's pretty rare because I've had just such a marvel experience with, I don't know what to call it, like more of a carnivorous, omnivorous-based raw food diet than I thought like, why really change? And to be clear, like we went out to dinner when I was at your farm and I think would you order three rib-eyes raw? We found out you have a restaurant there that was like. Yeah, a lot of restaurants, you know, they say that raw meat and raw milk, all this stuff is unsafe.

But I found, I've gone out to eat plenty of times where I just say, hey, you know, I've got this medical situation going on. I eat all raw food. I'll sign a waiver if you want me to. And nine times out of ten, the restaurants will serve me raw meat. Do you eat raw chicken? Yeah, I've had raw chicken at a restaurant. And David, David Gumpur wrote a book called The Raw Milk Revolution. And he wrote, I was eating with David Gumpard, this journalist,

and he wrote about this story in the book where I'm going out to a restaurant with him, and they serve me raw chicken from Joel Salatin's farm, Ali Faye's Farm, who has supplied. So what is the thinking behind that? I mean, we talked about enzymes and, you know, why, you know, and by the way, you know, there's other people that disagree with you. And very much that when we were at your farm, which we'll talk about in a minute, not everyone agrees with raw you know you should cook it in order to break it down but what is your theory around what's happening with raw food that cooked food is

not delivering a cook steak yeah it has something to do with the cost of conversion like if you were to if you were to slice your leg or your arm open you're like raw meat inside you right so if if you're going to build a wooden table what would you use a pile of wood or a pile of metal well if you use a pile of metal you'd have to perform some kind of simple stillskin magic to turn the metal in the wood before you would build the table. So it has something to do with the conversion of the new, because when you chew, you're talking about these nutrients that you swallow are going to get broken down to their, their smallest particles. And so they're going to get deconstructed.

If you can imagine deconstructing Legos into each little individual Lego, then some kind of life force, whether their enzymes or whatever it is, are going to have to take those little tiny Legos and reconstruct them back into your kidneys, your pancreas. your spleen. And so it has something to do with, you know, a cooked piece of food coming in and the enzyme having to work that cooked piece of food back into its raw state before it can rebuild it because it's not just going to take the cooked particle and make a pancreas or your skin or whatever because we're not cooked individual. We're cooked, you know, we're raw beings. Yeah. So it has something to do with that conversion of being able to convert a material of cooked into a material with raw material. And it's a, no one's really figured out like the science of why that is.

Whoever does would probably do humanity a great service, but no one's, I don't think they put the money and research into it. And so you go to farmers like Amos who was on, Amos is delivering food to, through these, you know, food co-ops and groups and private membership organizations. You want all of the bacteria and enzymes that are happening in the way. I mean, not a ton of you don't want it like dropped in the street. dropped in the street, but you want that as a part of your diet. Is that, like when you see his issue, like processing through a plant where they're going to put citric acid on or something?

So is that killing enzyme? Is that affecting enzymes? Yeah, absolutely. And we've come to this point of this better living through chemistry. Everything must die. More bleach, more bleach, more bleach is the solution. And it's catching up to us. It's hurting our immune system.

It's hurting our bodies. So the way Amos processed means, I've been to his farm, I buy food from him. I've been buying food from him for over 15 years. And we need to figure out how to process meats without chemicals. If anything, Amos should be an American hero. He should be the standard from which the USDA and these laws and regulations are made. But unfortunately, it's the opposite of that. Well, it's amazing when I think about it.

You know, he's under attack for having dangerous foods. yet all across America, the Nestle's that we're talking about earlier today, are filling your kid with fruit loops and Captain Crunch and things and orange drinks and Doritos and Fritos and Cheetos, and all of that is considered fully acceptable. And as I walked around the water park two weeks ago, I just thought, we are so unhealthy. I'm not going to get into the descriptions of it,

but clearly food is killing people. We are so sick. And you look at the Amish, you look at people like you that are, you know, eating, you know, in a very, very clean way, directly, you know, true, you know, farm-to-table lifestyle, and somehow that's being made illegal. Well, this is a lot of what we were discussing at Max Cain's party. He had this brilliant event in Wisconsin. I was so honored to be invited a roundtable with some of the great minds on these discussions. So for the audience out there, this is just a taste of what it was like to be at Max Cain's Party in Wisconsin.

We're about to hike Horseshoe Canyon up to Horseshoe Point to the West Ridge of the property. And we're going to look four miles down the canyon and see the sunrise. It's going to be beautiful. It's like Eden here. Hundreds of people gathered from all over the country wanting to learn the same things I want to learn. How do we get back to this? A lap of absolute beauty. How do we grow our own food?

I mean, look how beautiful this place is. How is it that this doesn't have all the answers we need? We got fresh raw dairy products. We got meat. We have vegetables from local farms. This is all the food that we're supposed to be eating. This is the food that our bodies were designed to eat. You know that I'm the raw milk lady, and we're told that raw milk is inherently dangerous,

but actually raw milk is uniquely safe. We know even more. That today that we knew 50 years ago, and we now know that raw milk contains multiple redundant, redundant overlapping systems of bioactive components that reduce or eliminate pathogens. I've had several parents tell me they've made one change in the diet of their family. They switch from pasteurized to raw milk and how that improved their children's behavior. A good diet is 80% of our health, absolutely essential, but the problem is there's so much misinformation out there about what constitutes a good diet. a good diet and people end up eating really bizarre diets that have nothing to do with the way

humanity is eaten for thousands of years. As we have pulled away from handling food from domestic culinary arts, we have become profoundly ignorant about food. This profound lack of knowledge about food, lack of culinary domestic arts has moved our culture into fearing food instead of embracing food. So we have moved from food faith to food fear. The most valuable progress for the quality of your life is you growing and developing the health of your spirit,

a healthy spirit, a healthy mind and a healthy body, and living more and more in harmony with the truth of your biology and the truth of the world, the natural, world. It's great to be around people who think that this is important. This is one of the most important things to focus on. What would happen if just 10% of the consumer dollar were spent on local authentic food? I mean, it's big. It's huge. Who needs the supermarket? We don't need the supermarket. You know, this is a totally new paradigm. This focus right now on what we're actually

up against. Bill Gates is becoming the biggest private owner of farmland in the United States. One of the architects of what? Build back better. We'll all be eating synthetic meat made in chem labs, because that's the best way for us to be able to feed the planet. Environmentalism now means chemical farming. If I'm dependent on a laboratory to make something for me, suddenly the fact I'm getting water, sunshine, and grass out of my backyard, that's not where my food come from. So it's actually an incredibly undemocratic access to sustenance. I have supported small food producers and farmers who are facing government harassment for about 12 years. One of the biggest mistakes we're making in the food regulation is to criminalize food production, like trying to put an Amish farmer in jail

for selling raw milk. It's just not the right way to handle it. It's listening to your community and making informed decisions, you know, and again, protecting everybody's rights. If the framers of the Constitution had any inkling that the government would restrict access to food in medicine, that we wouldn't have freedom of choice as to those two things, then that would have been the First Amendment. If we want a secure food system, the best food system that will create the most food security for people is a decentralized food system of small-scale producers. So if something goes down over here, no one over there has a problem. We don't need to walk around with ticket signs.

We don't need their right nasty letters or ask the legislation. We certainly don't need more bureaucrats. What we need is just, if we're going to defun something, let's defund the food oligards. More than ever, we've all got to dig down and keep. Keep waking up, keep those around us awake, and keep driving towards the communities, towards the farming. I will absolutely leave this event with many new strategies and actually game plan to make my family more healthy. You're going to live what I lived. The day that realtor brought me to this property. It was just so breathtaking.

Hey Titus. Thank you. We'll keep praying that God's name will be glorified. I agree. I like these outdoor vats. I like getting into these conversations more about, it's really solution-based. You think, look at this. You think, we mess this up. And look what we have here. Like, what are we so stressed about? I mean, I guess, and ultimately, is that they're going to take this away. You want a piece of paradise, brother, is everything you dream of. Your idea of making it a party. It's not a conference. It's a celebration. I think everyone felt that. And the best part is, you know, people were coming up asking, are you going to do it again? There it is. Well, then I'll see you next year.

Let's do it again, brother. All right. I mean, what a journey you've been on to, you know, be on that form. I mean, you own a piece of heaven, really. I think there's so many people watching this show. So yeah, but tell you. Like, I'm never going to have that. Like, how do I even do that?

When you reflect on your life, how did this happen? Oh, man. Well, it probably got to the point where once I, found a way to heal myself. I felt that's why God put me on this earth. And I became very mission-driven. I had a purpose for my life. And I think that's how it all happened. Just, you know, coming from that place of spiritual faith, finding a way not just to live my life for myself, but to live a life for a purpose greater than myself and to serve other people. I mean, what's funny in people, you know, you probably don't talk about a lot, but in some ways you became like a contraband,

milk runner right I mean yeah living in Chicago you drove to Wisconsin where you're finding these organic products that are working for you and then you started a career basically running that milk up into Chicago where was it basically illegal to yeah that's kind of how it all started I was in Amos Miller situation in 2009 the Department of Justice they wanted to put me in incarcerate me for 18 months for trafficking milk yeah for yeah and it was it was a hard decision but I with faith I and a lot of people supporting me I stood up against them and eventually the the government went away and back down so that was but a lot had to do

with the sheriff so the sheriff of the county was really supportive of the work I was doing and you had a sheriff at this roundtable that had been very supportive sheriff John Spears is amazing sheriff so for people that are you know we have so many health issues we all do the you know and I this idea that food is medicine versus just getting me through the day so many people are taking vitamins and pills or whatever it is to sort of you know subsidize what they're getting from their diet you take your diet very seriously what are what are some books that people could read you think that sort of to that sort of you used along your journey sure so one of the first books I read was uh pottinger's cats by dr. francis pottinger

junior. It was a study that was done on cats. It was a 10-year study. They basically took two groups of cats, one group of cats, raw milk, raw meat, the other group of cats, cooked milk, cook meat. And then after five generations, the cats on the cook diet had a hard time reproducing. Besides that, Sally Fallon wrote a great book, Nourishing Traditions. Agenus Vonder Planets has two books. One is We Want to Live, the other is the recipe for living without disease. Those are all amazing books for anyone that's interested in kind of deep diving down the nutritional rabbit hole, so to speak. It's amazing. You know, and you know, Sally Fallon, who I was riveted by her speech on raw milk. I mean, she did, I think it was a whole hour.

On all the studies, rat studies were pasteurized milk versus raw milk, and the pasturized just basically eventually killed the animals and the raw milk. They thrived. And what I found fascinating about what she was saying. She says, it's not like you have, you know, raw milk is great and pasteurized, you know, if that's the best you can do. She was basically saying, no, pasteurized milk is poison. Yeah. It's poison. It has, it is beyond not beneficial. It's bad for your children. It's bad for everyone. She was really clear on that. If you're not drinking raw milk, you shouldn't be drinking any milk at all because that process is just bringing out the worst in that product. Yeah. And I'm really fascinating. I'll tell you what, though. I've, I've

traveled a lot and went to a lot of different workshops, presentations, read books. And I think Sally's probably the most knowledgeable person on raw milk that I've ever met in my life. I agree. I agree. So, you know, when people, Weston A Price is the group that she works with. I think they have another event coming up. And Joel Saladin does great work, the farmer that was speaking there. I'm going to be going out to his farm to really interview him on his farming practice, which are now being adopted by farmers all around the world. And at the middle of this, you know, you've become this sort of catalyst to bring all these things together. So what's next? What's the next event? We've got an event coming up next week

in New York. We at Churchtown Dairy, Abby Rockefeller's Farm. We're having another roundtable event. We're going to have Elizabeth Kucinich there. Joel Salatin's going to be there again. You'll be there. I'll be there. Ben Dobson, Dave Chapman. Chris Lindstrom and a whole bunch of other people. So if people can head over to farmatch.com and buy some tickets, we're going to live stream it. Okay. Or you can get a ticket and attend in person.

Let's talk about farm match before we get out of here just really quickly because I think this is such an important issue. When we look at what's going on with Amos, but when we think about our food supply, it may come down to food shortages, period. You know, so many cattle have been destroyed because the packaging plants are back. up and the delivery systems fall apart.

And so this idea of really a direct, you know, from farm to table, getting acquainted with our local farmers, our local organic farmers, is really behind what Farm Match is. So just tell, I want people to know about Farm Match because I just think this is really one of the coolest things and websites out there. Yeah, thanks, Del. So Farmatch.com is a, it's a website to connect you with farmers in your area. Right now, we don't have farmers plastered across the, the, the whole US, but that's the plan because we want to connect people with farmers in their

area that are farming without hormones, without antibiotics, without chemicals. So people have a food source to be able to thrive and nourish from so that the next, you know, during the next pandemic or whenever that's planned or, you know, that people will have a place to go get their food. We're not relying on, like Joel Salatin said, the grocery store. Right. You know, where the shelves usually empty out on you. So, you know, as you look forward, what is your goal now in life and what is it, what is your message to people that are watching right now?

My goal and my message is just to get people to really understand that food is health. You can't separate those. Diet is health. Nutrition is health. It's one of the biggest, greatest impacts on our health. And we need to be consciously aware of that and really bring that more. I mean, we homeschool too, so I don't know if this will ever make it into the education system. I know when I went back in the school it was all candy and soda and sugar soda, but the food is health. That's the mission and if we can change our diet and just start eating better as a species, wow, what a better world. We're going to see crime go down. You know, medical bills are going to go down. We're going to have a better life, not just individually, but as an entire population on the planet.

Well, it's fantastic. It's really an honor to know you and obviously, keep signing up to your events because I think this roundtable discussions is such a brilliant way to get the truth out there and just watching your journey and your story. It's truly inspiring for people like me that, you know, I'm trying to get to the gym and I'm really working to you know, take better care of myself. You're such an incredible example of that. And so I just want to thank you for your work. Yeah, you're welcome, Doug. And thank you for joining me today. Yeah, thank you as well. Take care. All right. We'll see you soon. All right. Well, we'll see you soon.

All right, well, look, you know, it starts with, you know, yourself, right? Change starts with you. And I just want to say to all of you out there, so many people that are watching the high wire for the first time, the articles, more hit pieces written this week about my interview with Ron Johnson. So I know there's brand new people that read that and said, wait a minute, I'm interested because I disagree with this paper. Or I hate the philosophy that seemed to not work or the vaccines that didn't work. And so I want to look into what does. Bill Bigtree and the Highwire is all about.

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I'm going to be with him at Max Cain's Roundtable of Food. It'll be live streaming September 3rd. And this is just a promotion for that. And I hope that you decide to check it out. Hey everyone, this is Max Kane. I'm teaming up with Abby Rockefeller to put together an event that you're not going to want to miss. This September 3rd at Abbey's Farm in Hudson, New York, we're going to be sitting down at the table with Joel Salatin, Elizabeth Kucinich, and Dell Bigtree to talk about the future of local food. We're going to talk about how to build a new regenerative food system to sustain the future generations of planet Earth. You can attend this event live in person or live stream it right into your own home.

own home. Click the link, get tickets, and look forward to seeing you in September 3rd. All right, man. I'm Max K. What a great guy. Such a light. I mean, you can just feel the radiance, right? I'm not sure I can do all the raw thing, but I, you know, I try it definitely into the raw milk and things like that. And maybe over time, you know, slowly I got enough friends around me that are making it look really attractive. But, you know, you decide what's right for you. That's what this is all about. If it sounds right, I say a lot of what we, you know, present here, if it doesn't sound right to you, then it's not right for you. I don't think that there's one diet or just like there's no one drug or one vitamin or some plan that works for

everybody. We're all unique and different in many ways. We're all going through very unique and special circumstances. So I think the way you find your way through all this information there's tons out there is, does it ring true for you? Is there something to go, you know what? There's something when I heard that Max Kane guy speaking that I feel like it could work for me, if you're not getting that voice, don't just go out and do it anyways. I think you have to sort of listen to that intuition and side of you. There's going to be a beautiful event up in upstate New York on Abby Rockefeller's farm. I mean, look at this place, you know, obviously doing it right. I mean, this is a beautiful venue to get to, you know, hear the truth and listen to

some of the great speakers on this topic. I'm tickled pink that I get invited to this because I'm obviously not a farming expert, but I do like to get in these conversations because I can offer up the perspective of where we're coming from with the medical establishment, the regulatory agency is something that I've been a part of when I was working on the CBS talks to the doctors and what we've been investigating here. So it's going to be a fantastic conversation. I hope to see you there. As I sort of close this out, let's button this whole thing up with the fact that there are real attacks on the things that are good for us in this world. We are being forced to take things that are not good for us. And then behind the scenes, we ask ourselves,

do they really believe in what they're doing to us? Are they living some different life? Is Tony Fauci? I mean, we know that Tony Fauci, while he was pushing vaccines on us, was privately taking vitamin D like a crazy man, and he looks really healthy. And so you just wonder, you know, how much are we being manipulated and where is this all going to go? I mean, whereas they sort of start to try, and they are, I mean, as we speak, they're mopping this mess of COVID up, right? They're cleaning it up and they're trying to whitewash what happened and they're attempting to rewrite history. We already showed you how Tony Fauci is being called out for what he's said, but you want to hear something and see something so incredibly egregious. This is, you know,

Leanna Wen, who has been out there in the press pushing drastic controls and shutdowns and forced vaccinations. She couldn't get enough of it. And just to remind you, This is going to blow your mind, but let's just remind ourselves of what this lunatic was trying to sell us in the news. Listen to this. There are many more people, millions of people who, for whatever reason, have concerns about the vaccine, who just don't know what's in it for them. And we need to make it clear to them that the vaccine is the ticket back to pre-pendemic life. And the window to do that is really narrowing. I mean, you were mentioning, Chris, about how all these states are reopening.

They're reopening at 100%. And we have a very narrow window to tie reopening policy to vaccination status. Because otherwise, if everything is reopened, then what's the carrot going to be? How are we going to incentivize people to actually get the vaccine? So that's why I think the CDC and the Biden administration needs to come out a lot bolder and say, if you're vaccinated, you can do all these things. Here are all these freedoms that you have. Because otherwise, people are going to go out and enjoy these freedoms anyway.

She's literally saying there, I hear. hate that there's any freedom allowed. We need to keep the mask on these people. We need to keep them locked down, even though there's making no scientific sense, because that's the carrot. That's the carrot with which we get them to force themselves in this vaccine program. You take that away. You let them take their masks off. You let them breathe the fresh air and be near each other. Then it's all over and we've lost our moment, right? I mean, it sounded crazy then, but what is even crazier is what she's saying publicly now. Take a look at this. This is what she tweeted out. Many on Twitter have asked, how do I go from being extremely cautious with COVID-19

precautions for nearly two years to now resuming pre-pandemic activities, including not masking my young kids at school? I explained in this at post-opinions column. Of course, I'm giving her more attention she probably deserves, but look at this. I accept the risk that my kids will probably contract COVID in school, just as they could contract the flu, RSV, and other contagious diseases. There is a trade-off. Masking has harmed our son's language development. We do not wish to limiting our kids social interactions. My family's decision not to mask our kids should not be mislabels, being anti-masked. We would never stigmatize other parents and caregivers for the difficult choices they must make. What are you talking about? Lietta, that was your whole point with stigmatizing this so that we were all

afraid and used as a carrot. You were stigmatizing. You're like the queen of stigmatizing. I am also very pro vaccine, including for our children. We are also far from COVID minimizers. I've written, spoken extensively about the dangers of the coronavirus, including the children, and I'm clear-eyed about the unknowns of long COVID. I'm not going to mask my kids, deal with it. Yes, they're going to catch viruses. That's just a natural way with life. I'm not going to stigmatize you if you don't believe that, but get out of my way because that's how we're living. Exactly what I tried to shut down on this planet. Folks, this is why you need to stop. watching CNN. This is why you need to stop watching Fox and MSNBC. When the people that you were

watching that were being brought in as experts proved to you that they live a completely different life than they're dictating to you. When you catch them in lies about one story, you must assume they're lying about everything else. Or you are just going to end up being a sucker. When you meet someone like Max Kane, you can spend a day with him and say, this guy's for real. He really does. eat raw beef. He really has transformed his life. He looks amazing and his kids and his family is amazing. And what he is giving to the earth and what he's talking about doesn't change from day to day. It's been the same and growing stronger every day. He's alive. Those are the people that at least for me, that's who I'm listening to. How are you living your own life? Does it make sense? Does it

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But you've watched it. I could have called this show the I Told You So Show, but it would be as nauseating as it sounds. What we are here to do is to deliver the truth as we find it. We take it very seriously in presenting new ideas to you, some of them being old ideas, and keeping our eyes on what. What is happening?

This hasn't disappeared. These people trying to dictate our lives are not disappearing. All the tech companies that were lined up to track every single bio system you have so that they can sell you more crap that will kill you. That is still their agenda. Where are they hiding? Where are they going? Yeah, we want to know too.

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