The Highwire with Del Bigtree - FOOD WARS

Episode Date: April 29, 2022

Rise of The Vaccine-Informed; New Study Exposes Mask Fail; Hepatitis Outbreak in Kids; Are You Prepared for The Food Wars?; What To Know About Rising Inflation; Farm to Your TableGuests: Shad Sullivan..., Catherine Austin Fitts, Max KaneBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:07 Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are out there in the world. How about we all step out onto the high wire? Well, things are really getting crazy in the news. The whole world in some ways seems like it's on fire. And we're not even talking about COVID very much anymore. But I want to really talk about, you know, how we got here, where we're at, and discuss sort of the potential of the power that we have, What we're recognizing we can do as people.
Starting point is 00:00:40 And by doing that, the biggest focus here on the high wire, for those of the you that are new, has obviously been looking at the vaccine program in general before there was the COVID pandemic. We had been discussing all the issues with the childhood vaccine program, the lack of safety testing that was going on, the fact that there was this one-size-fits-all approach to all of our children. No one wanted to recognize the amount of injuries that were. were taking place and doctors that we would ask questions had no ability to answer those questions. It seemed as though vaccination was more of a religious sacrament than it was some sort of scientific process, especially when it came to asking those that knew or were supposed
Starting point is 00:01:23 to know what they were talking about. Well, because of all that, if you think about before COVID, before the pandemic, where were we at, the work that we were doing on the high wire, and we were warning people. I was saying across this country and even around the world in places I was speaking, I think there's going to be a pandemic coming. There was much writing on the wall for all of that. Well, all of those talking points started being shared across this country. We put out what we called the vaccine safety project. We listed all of the problems we saw in the vaccine program. Most importantly, the fact that it appeared and we proved ultimately through legal cases in our legal team that not a single childhood vaccine on the CDC schedule had ever been through a proper
Starting point is 00:02:08 randomized control placebo study before licensure. Here it was. We laid this out to you. Not one of those ever sat in a placebo group study where one group got the vaccine and the other group got the placebo when we followed them for maybe a couple of years to see what their ultimate health outcomes were. Well, because of that, there started being this shift in the conversation across this country and around the world as these ideas were being shared, which then ultimately landed us and all of us in the movement of vaccine risk awareness on the WHO's top 10 list of the most harmful here it is. W.H.O says antifaxins are the global health threat. Antifaxies, if you read that top sentence are among the top 10 greatest health threats in the world.
Starting point is 00:02:57 world today. For many, there would not be something you'd want to celebrate, but to us that showed that we were making headway, that this conversation was starting to truly move the needle. Well, then, just before the COVID pandemic, in December of 2019, the World Health Organization held a meeting to try and stop this top 10 global health problem. Of course, I'm talking about the Global Health Summit that took place in Geneva, Switzerland, and brought in all the the top scientists from around the world to focus on one issue. How do we stop vaccine hesitancy? That was it. Vaccine hesitancy is a global problem. We've got to get people to start believing in vaccines again. Well, we have done a whole show on this. You should go back and watch the
Starting point is 00:03:46 WHO show, but I just want to lay out one of the major points that was put forward and the sort of crisis the WHO found itself in when it came to the world vaccination program. It was really explained very well by Heidi Larson. We've shown this video many times before. I'm going to do it again, but to give you context of where we're actually at now, this is Dr. Heidi Larson talking about this vaccine risk or anti-vaccine movement and the growth that we were seeing in 2019. Take a look at this.
Starting point is 00:04:18 This is a physicist. I'm working with it at GW in George Washington University. is actually an Oxford physicist. These are, he has had worked primarily on different kinds of social networks, but I was fascinated by his methods, and I said, listen, you should look at the vaccine space. So each of these blobs, as he calls them,
Starting point is 00:04:48 are communities, like a Facebook page, which is, or Arnica, this group of mothers. So the green dots are undecided, neutral communities, people interested in vaccines but asking questions. The red are the clearly questioning anti-communities, and the blue are the positive. Already you can see the blue is a tighter group and the red more out there. Now, if you look at the numbers, what he was looking at was over a number. period of time, literally a couple months. What is the recruiting pace of the blue positive versus the red in them converting the undecided to their camp or the other? It was a 500%
Starting point is 00:05:43 faster recruitment by the negative than the positive vaccine community. That's fast. That's fast. So there you have it. We were recruiting people at a 500% faster recruitment rate for those of us questioning vaccines compared to those that were just religiously believing in them and trying pushing that they're all perfectly safe, all perfectly effective, which we know is not the truth. Well, that was the issue. And so from this meeting, amazingly, when you think about they all came together. World renowned scientists from every direction came together. How do we stop vaccine hesitancy? This is them all standing together. We're going to think tank this and figure out a way. Well, then just within literally two months, we found ourselves in the middle of this COVID pandemic.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Now, I'm not saying they caused it or manufactured it. Maybe it was just opportunistic that it happened right at that time. That doesn't really matter. What we do know is suddenly we have. We have had a pandemic where the conversation across the world, every one of these scientists went to their health departments in every nation in the world and got the nations to believe that there was going to be only one way out of this pandemic. What? Vaccination. That everyone would have to be a part of the vaccine program. Now, it seems to me that that was the push. Here we go. We are going to get back on track and make people confident in vaccines again. We're going to use this pandemic to do and this brand new COVID vaccine.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Well, I just want to talk a little bit about the success that we're now seeing from that approach, this worldwide global push, the most organized propaganda campaign that has ever happened in every nation in the world. I can't think of a single other time where we were all so, you know, consolidated into one idea, one way future, holding arms together. We're going to just save ourselves with the vaccine. Well, here's where we're at now. Look at these headlines.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Millions of COVID-19 shots set to go to waste as vaccine rollout slows. That's ABC News. Attendance plummets at L.A. COVID vaccination event. This is just a couple of days ago. At a recent vaccination drive coordinated by an immigrant advocacy group in Palmdale near Lancaster in northern L.A. County, only two people showed up over four hours, both for their second doses. Corhey Perez, Salva Organization's vaccine coordinator, spent a week promoting the event with his team, going door to door, visiting local businesses and publicizing it on social media.
Starting point is 00:08:29 At previous vaccine drives, we got 42 people, then 20, then four, said a disappointed Perez, now two. COVID-19 serum Institute of India halts vaccine production over millions of unused doses. That's the times of India. Financial times, we are drowning in vaccine. What will revive the market for COVID jabs? Modernist chief says there is massive oversupply. Poland declines to take or pay for more COVID-19 vaccines for now.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Denmark suspends national COVID-19 vaccination program. And so when you think about all of those things, we can tell, I could go on and on. We're seeing it all across the world. we have just oceans of COVID vaccines that nobody seems to want. We're being told that the uptake here in America was somewhere between 60%. I've heard as high as 75% got at least one dose, which remember the CDC does not consider vaccinated at all. So when you look at what happened here,
Starting point is 00:09:32 this COVID vaccine was supposed to be the savior to revive the confidence of vaccination for everyone in the world, yet the opposite seems to be the case. But the biggest concern would be if it ended up hurting the entire vaccine program. Now, I want to also point out that it wasn't just the WHO that was involved in, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:55 sort of pushing a pandemic. There was planning for this pandemic or any future pandemic. Let's not make it a conspiracy theory. Any probable pandemic by who? Bill Gates, of course I'm talking about event 201. To really get an idea of what event 201 was, which was this sort of Dungeons and Dragons version of a future pandemic, if you will,
Starting point is 00:10:17 with a bunch of geeks sitting in a room with fake news and trying to act like the real pandemic was happening, role-playing it out, if you will. It was covered very well in Plandemic 2. This is the section from that brilliant movie on Event 201. Just watch. This is all what they had pre-recorded as what it would be like if we had a pandemic. On behalf of our center and our partners, the World Economic Forum and the Bill of Melinda Gates Foundation, I'd like to extend a very warm welcome to our audience here in New York, as well as our larger virtual audience participating online today. The event 201 scenario is fictional.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Today's scenario is going to simulate meetings of a multi-stakeholder group called the Pandemic Emergency Board. We're at the start of what's looking like it will be a. severe pandemic and there are problems emerging that can only be solved by global business and governments working together. There's been some conspiracy theories that are around about the potential that pharmaceutical companies or the UN have released this for their own benefit. And maybe this is a time for us to showcase some cases where we are able to bring forward some bad actors and leave it before the courts to decide whether they have actually spread some fake
Starting point is 00:11:36 news. A new coronavirus. Infected people got a respiratory illness with symptoms ranging from mild flu-like signs to severe pneumonia. In related use, a significant demand for personal protective equipment like N95 masks and gloves are on the rise. Patients are overwhelming health care facilities. People are avoiding public spaces out of fear of infection and in compliance with public health recommendations. Our U.S. Affiliate has just released polling results on public expectations for a vaccine, and 65% of those Polled are eager to take the vaccine, even if it's experimental. I'm not optimistic about having a vaccine in time to be relevant during this pandemic.
Starting point is 00:12:16 With enough money and political will, anything is possible. Penalties have been put in place for spreading harmful falsehoods, including arrests. If the solution means controlling and reducing access to information, I think it's the right choice. There is no question that there will be a surprise outbreak. If we start now, we can be ready for the next epidemic. Of course, if you haven't seen Plandemic indoctrinated, definitely do that right away. A brilliant film. My great friend Mickey Willis, that director didn't put that together.
Starting point is 00:12:51 But is it not shocking to see how surprisingly accurate they were, even to the point where there would be some people claiming that this virus was released on purpose to achieve a goal? Really weird that they would project that that would be the case or the fact that only 65% would want the vaccine or that there would be pushback. all of these things predicted or were, you know, sort of set up to be how this entire thing came together. But the question I ask you now is with all of that planning, and remember, we've looked into this, but the funding of Event 201 came from really just three major organizations
Starting point is 00:13:27 that is the World Economic Forum, John Hopkins and Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, of course, Bill Gates, really this brain trust who was already invested in technologies to track us, like vaccine passport technologies. He had his money in vaccines themselves, the COVID vaccine, and of course the testing kits. So it sure seemed like he was prepared to make a lot of money, at least for his NGOs that are supposed nonprofits that are ambivalent, of course,
Starting point is 00:13:57 and trying to just make the world a better place. But when you think about what a failure, you know, the COVID vaccine program was, you know, the question then you have to ask Bill Gates is, well, how did it go? After all of your planning and all that funding and you seem to be so accurate, did it go how you had thought? This is what he said recently. The politicization of, you know, taking vaccines and helping protect other people, you can almost say that's a step backwards. You know, I hope vaccine acceptance for other diseases like measles is not reduced by this.
Starting point is 00:14:35 But, you know, a lot of people jumped in and took the vaccines, but a meaningful minority in most countries were led down a path of believing that not only, you know, were there rare side effects, but that the vaccine wasn't properly tested or was part of some evil conspiracy. Well, unfortunately, it looks like for Bill Gates, the Dungeons and Dragons version of a pandemic did not role play out in reality the way it had in his mind. in the minds of all of his friends that were playing the game. In fact, exactly his greatest fear is upon him.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Remember, we had roughly a 90% or 95% vaccine confidence in America. They were just trying to really squeeze out that 5% of critical thinkers that just said, I don't think so. Or maybe I'm at least questioning it. So where are we at now? Check out the headlines. His fear is upon him. Politico.
Starting point is 00:15:33 COVID vaccine concerns are starting to spill over into routine immunization. This is MedPage today. CDC finds concerning dip in kindergarten vaccination coverage. Nation rate dropped below public health target of 95%. And this is New Hampshire Bulletin. Anti-vaccine legislation puts health care organizations in an impossible situation. This is a commentary. And this is brilliant because if you think about defeat the mandates, of course, we're not
Starting point is 00:16:01 stopping at just the COVID vaccine. And for those of you've been watching this, a lot of people say, Adele, why don't you compare the COVID vaccine? This is early on, like over a year ago, to how bad the childhood vaccines are because all these doctors saying, well, the COVID vaccine is bad, but they're just not as good as the old childhood vaccines. You got to correct that. I said, wait for it, wait for it, because it's sort of like that old statement, don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes. Wait till they, or my father used to always say about running a company. If someone's really making a mistake, make sure you're giving them enough rope to hang themselves with. Well,
Starting point is 00:16:33 that's where we're at. I said, just go ahead and give them as well, much line as they want with COVID. Let them make all the statements they want about how bad COVID vaccine is compared to the childhood schedule and then we'll get back to the point, which is what we're starting to do now. But it's happening naturally. Not only are we fighting the COVID vaccine mandates, we're fighting the childhood mandates, which make no sense in a modern free world. This is what that article went on to say. What began as an effort to eliminate COVID-19 vaccine requirements has transformed into a movement at the state legislature to, kick the legs out from under New Hampshire's longstanding childhood and adult vaccine program.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Many of you are like adult program. That's right, folks. They had one for you too. The state legislature, as we speak, is considering dozens of bills that, if they became law, would take away the ability of our schools, colleges, universities, private businesses, daycare centers, and health care organizations to require vaccines. We want to be able to force them on you and you're trying to take that away from us. Well, I think all of this is proof. to be having had a huge effect when we look at the Iowa poll. This was recently, I've showed this to you before, but this was just back in March of the 13th. Iowa's support for non-COVID vaccine requirements in schools erodes Iowa poll finds, folks,
Starting point is 00:17:54 this is amazing. Just 34% of Iowa adults, remember how often do we look to Iowa to show the pulse of the nation when voting for things? Just 34% of Iowa adults now say all children. children should be required to receive standard shots unless they have a doctor-signed statement showing they have a medical reason not to be vaccinated. The poll shows that's down from 59% who supported such a requirement in 2015 when the Iowa poll asked a similar question about childhood vaccinations. That is a 25% drop. Very interesting chart here that shows how it all lays out.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Of course, you want to look at these charts or anything else. You just have to go to be a part of our newsletter, thehighwire.com. Sign up to our newsletter for all of the information we provide here. We are a completely transparent news organization. You receive links to everything we're talking about. All you have to do is sign up to our newsletter and then you have this information in your hand. We call it the High Wire Protocol because unlike all of those competitors that try to say we're spreading misinformation, we hand our information directly to you so that you can challenge us if you want to. That's real transparency. You should try spreading misinformation when you're handing all of your evidence to the people, including those on the other side. So here we are. Now we have
Starting point is 00:19:13 the Iowa poll saying we are below 50% of Americans now believe that a requirement for vaccination to go to school should even exist. If there's any question inside of you, whether we are winning or where we're at, remember, we had a, what, they said 95% vaccine uptake, and now that it's falling apart, and only 34% of those think we should even have a mandated vaccine. And the point I want to make about this, which is so fascinating, when you look at that New Hampshire article, as though somehow giving people free will and free choice will eradicate your ability to get anyone vaccinated. Do you see what they're admitting here?
Starting point is 00:19:52 What they're saying is they don't trust the people anymore, and they don't trust their own ability to develop a product, to take the billions of dollars they make from those products, to advertise it in a way to you that you will believe that your children need this. They are totally admitting that this product is so unfavorable now that they don't think they can get it into you in any other way than using some sort of authoritarian tool that forces it into your body. That's what they're reduced to. And now they're complaining that the legislatures and laws are starting to move against them. Folks, I assure you that whoever put together event 201 is going back to the drawing boards. And we know who they all. And the WHO and their giant
Starting point is 00:20:39 events on how to stop vaccine hesitancy has backfired. Why did it backfire? Perhaps because they didn't listen to Heidi Larson to begin with. Because they decided let's just censor anybody that goes against us. Let's just shut down the internet. Shut down. media, not interview anyone questioning the vaccines. She said that might be a problem before they even started this thing. Listen to this. I spent a lot of time talking particularly in the last six months with tech companies, Facebook, WhatsApp, Pulsar, Twitter, Instagram, WeChat, Weibo.
Starting point is 00:21:20 They have a lot of fingers pointing at them to fix the misinformation problem. but it's not so simple. One, the biggest problem, is a lot of it's not misinformation. Our problem is, as we've heard in the last 48 hours, that there's not anything 100%. And what actually can legally, without creating a censorship thing, can we absolutely say this is misinformation?
Starting point is 00:21:54 Because we have a lot of ambiguity, in the safety field and we have to come to terms with that so we have to think about it differently than deleting misinformation but building trust so people are willing to put up with a certain amount of risk because they believe in it enough they believe in our work what we're doing and that it's in their interest i kind of agree with Heidi there you know what it's better to be honest with the people than to lie to them and call it misinformation, lie about it, because the truth is, it's not misinformation. You should be admitting that the COVID vaccine was never properly safety tested, that everyone taking it was taking on an unknown risk. At least then we would
Starting point is 00:22:43 have known you tell us the truth instead of lying to us that in this case, maybe it wasn't 100% effective, but it was 95% effective, wait a minute, more like 80% effective, well maybe 75% effective, Well, it's 50% perfective after the second booster. Well, we better get a third booster because it looks like Omicron is getting through. Well, you know, we're going to have to learn to live with it. You want to know why they don't trust you? Because your plan stinks. It's called lying to the people.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And while they go back to the drawing boards to figure out how they're going to do this all over again, I want to let you know something. We had plans too. We saw them coming here at the high wire end, the informed consent action network. I wasn't just telling you, I believe there was going to be a pandemic somewhere in the future. We were planning for it. And we have won. We've won this battle.
Starting point is 00:23:32 There's more to come. But folks, we have a very heavy show. We're going to get into some other issues that we tend to sort of not get into, which is food shortages and inflation and gas prices and all those things. As this show gets really heavy, we talk about it. I just want to let you know that you can be confident that here on the high wire, we're going to be delivering information to the safety. people that won here, you, we won this to begin with, and we're going to continue to win. We're going to make the world a better place because we have the truth. So hang in there.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I know last week was a heavy show, some heavy stuff coming up here, but it's going to be a great show, a huge show. I'm going to be talking to fifth generation rancher Shad Sullivan, who's been on our show before discussing what really are the potential dangers of a food shortage in our near future. And then sort of piggybacking on that, one of, I think, one of the greatest, minds alive on this planet today. Catherine Austin Fitz joins me to discuss both the food shortage, also banking issues, the growing gas prices and inflation and all those things. But first, it's time for the Jackson Report. All right, Jeffrey, what do you have for us this week?
Starting point is 00:24:50 Del, wonderful, wonderful to listen to that opening. Well, there's some fallout that's further beyond that reckless COVID vaccine push that's happening here in the domestic legislation in the United States. And let's go right to Mississippi. This is good news for some people reading this headline. Governor Tate Reeves signs ban on COVID-19 vaccine mandates and passports. This was from the press release from the office. The legislative ban on COVID-19 vaccine mandates extends to state agencies, public officials, state institutions of higher learning, public community, or junior colleges, county, municipality, and other political subdivisions. The law stops these entities from barring individuals from employment or discriminating against them in terms of compensation and other
Starting point is 00:25:35 benefits. But it goes further. It says it will also be illegal to require children to receive a COVID-19 vaccine as a condition of attending a school kindergarten or similar type of facility intended for the instruction of children, whether public or private. Now, there's nine other U.S. states where COVID vaccination requirements have been banned by legislation. So this thing is running very quickly. Really, really good news for a lot of people. I love not just banning it. But I love this idea of making it illegal to even attempt to mandate it for one of your establishments. I mean, that's really just taking it down the road. And Mississippi, a place I've traveled to so often, always fighting for the vaccine rights.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I think this is a huge step in the right direction. Mississippi being one of the few states like California now that does not have a religious or personal belief exemption against vaccinations. For you guys in Mississippi, great job. I think you've now opened the door. it's only a matter of time before we start seeing these rights being rolled back. And you have to know that the powers that be are going to try with all of their will to stop that. But boy, do we have, you know, a tailwind behind us right now. And of course, as this legislation rolls through these voting processes, there was also early on,
Starting point is 00:26:47 as we've covered a lot of governors who just went executive order and went for the ban for that direction as well. So across the entire United States, we have a large subset now of states that are really pushing back against this. Rhode Island, not so much one of them. So they're they're starting to write, they're seeking bills that are really coming out of something like 2020 or 2021 as if we were right in the middle of smack dab of the pandemic. Here's the headline, incredible headline. Yes, a Rhode Island bill aims to find tax eligible residents if they aren't vaccinated against COVID-19. You imagine how this one went over. So it says here, the proposed bill states any eligible Rhode Island resident would have to be vaccinated against COVID-19. And if they choose not to, they could face a $50
Starting point is 00:27:33 monthly fine and pay double the state income tax. And then it also goes a little further. Fines for unvaccinated children under the age of 16 would be imposed on their parents or guardians. So of course, you can imagine after that headline. I want to put this into perspective. And I'm going to take a little bit of risk here. Can we bring that original headline up? Because I just want to talk about what I think, you know, really is the conversation here. Bring that headline back up. Yes, A rural island bill aims to find tax eligible residents if they are African American. Or yes, a Rhode Island bill aims to find tax eligible residents if they are gay by transgender. Yes, a rural island bill aims to find tax eligible residents if they are Jewish.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I mean, let's put this in perspective. This is insanity. This goes against everything. I mean, this is isolating a group of people that whether you want to call it a religious decision. and many, I mean, I think it's a critical thinking decision, but whatever it is, you're going to isolate them and tax them more money. We wouldn't accept this on any other group of people.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And so we really need to step up now because it's been so successful in all these other social groups to say, hey, you're not allowed to attack me and my belief system because of who I am or the color of my skin or my sexual preference. You also should have no legal ability to personally isolate me or attack me for my medical decisions, which are my personal decisions that happen between me and my family and probably me and God. So it's incredible that we live in a time that a politician even thinks that this should happen in a free country.
Starting point is 00:29:09 It shows you really how bad this disease is in our political system, that it exists at all. It really needs, we definitely need some chemo in there to burn this out. As you pointed out, how repugnant this thing is, it immediately drew pushback and protest. And days later, this headline was coming out. Lawmakers distanced themselves from bill that would require COVID-19 vaccination. Goes on to say in this article, Rhode Island senators put their names on Bill S-2552, which would require every person at least 16 years old in the state
Starting point is 00:29:42 to be immunized against COVID-19. NBC10 News learned that to remove their names from the bill. Some of the senators who introduced the bill on March 1st did not want to talk about it anymore. NBC 10 reached state senators Jonathan Acosta and Tierra Mac by phone. Neither wanted to comment. Senator Sam Bell said he did not have the time for an interview. So again, here these people are so confident they put their names of this bill. They can't take one minute for a comment to a newspaper article talking about how great this
Starting point is 00:30:16 bill is. Surely they have some talking points to sell this bill, don't they? Amazing. And it's similar to what was happening in California with the bills. that we were there with the defeat the mandates rally, you know, co-signers on these Senator Richard Pan Bill started dropping off. And this is the power, again, people,
Starting point is 00:30:33 this is what we do when we call our legislators, when we call in to our senators and say, if you go near this bill and try to treat people that, you know, and take away their freedom of choice, you will never be elected. I mean, we are bringing shame upon people now in legislature. And this is, you know, in many ways, you want to talk about cancer.
Starting point is 00:30:54 culture we will cancel you politically if you decide to move against us we now have the power and we're wielding it in the correct uh peaceful way and i think that that's what's really got them nervous because how are they going to move these agendas when we are now standing up for our rights yeah i think what you're talking about is the original cancel culture that were given to us by our founding fathers which is the legislative process well it gets even uh better for some people looking for early access to specifically Ivermectin. If you're in Tennessee, this is now over the counter. This is the headline here. Tennessee Senate passes bill to allow over-the-counter sales of Ivermectin. Now, they're joining New Hampshire that passed a bill earlier last month that allows
Starting point is 00:31:38 pharmacists to dispense Ivermectin. And over 20 states have either proposed or passed legislation to give access to this drug to patients, protecting doctors from any type of pushback from the medical boards for prescribing this. So this is a big win for early treatment. because as we saw, you know, as Dr. Peter McCullough talked about early on, there was no plan for early treatment. And when the vaccine started to roll out where there was rumors about that coming, all of the early treatment ideas were just dropped on the floor. So this is a bit, you know, this is really a big, a piece of information here that's being plugged in. That's amazing. You know, well, hold on. I think it's really important. I want to just take this
Starting point is 00:32:14 moment, Jeffrey, because first of all, I want to congratulate you on the work that you've done shining a light on all of these issues. On the high wire, of course, we have our international team that was warning us of pandemics that were coming and issues that we were able to plan and prepare ourselves. Folks, they're going back to the drawing board. So are we. We are going through expansions here. We want to be able to reach more people. We want to bring out even more shows that can, because I think that not only is my voice, the only voice should be on this. You know, Jeffrey Jackson is there. We want to bring in more voices. All of that can only be possible. Can you imagine a network that is based on true free speech that is not,
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Starting point is 00:33:47 or have been very successful, you can make a difference in the world. All of you know that are donating right now, donating right now that all the achievements you've seen with the high wire, whether it's a rally, whether it's a legal win, whether it's the D.C. win where we definitely snuffed out the ability for children to be forced to, you know, vaccinated without their parents' consent. All of this. I mean, this is a one-stop shop that's happening here through our informed consent action network, which is our nonprofit that funds the highwire and makes this show possible. But who has a legal
Starting point is 00:34:19 team that is winning as much as we are on these fronts. Who is able to put together productions like the rally you just saw in Los Angeles and is able to bring you the news as clear and precisely as we are here. We need your help. We want to do more of this. And as we sort of are in this social media battle and we're seeing all of these changes, we're going to be at the forefront. Help us do that in a bigger and better and more powerful way. We want to keep winning. The war is still ahead of us. We want to sit with you one day and say, victory is ours. All right, Jeffrey, I'll let you get back to it. Thank you so much for your work. You're just one of the many great team members. They see you and I, but they don't see all of those
Starting point is 00:35:01 people around the world that are working for us right now to make sure that not only are we breaking this news and get the information out, but that we're getting it right so that no one can actually say what we're speaking about here is misinformation. Right, and everybody out there, you're only as good as your team. The days, what we're facing right now the days of independence and independent person facing the world like Hollywood tries to teach people to do it's over listen just get with find your tribe so you know the Heidi Larson's of the world and the Bill Gates is of the world they didn't want politicians involved in public health decisions or these myopic you know pushes to push pharmaceutical products
Starting point is 00:35:39 but politicians are stepping up at the county level the state level but I wonder how they felt about courts getting involved because they've delivered a lot of losses and you know embarrassing close. Let's listen to Tony Fauci. He addressed that just recently in an interview. Well, it's surprised and disappointed because those types of things really are the purview of the CDC. This is a public health issue. And for a court to come in, and if you look at the rationale for that, it really is not particularly firm. And we are concerned about that, about courts getting involved in things that are unequivocally public health decisions. I mean, this is a CDC issue, which should not have been a court issue. So we're,
Starting point is 00:36:18 hoping that the inevitable increase in cases which we're seeing are not going to be associated with an increase in hospitalizations. So all of these dynamic things going on at the same time, it was perfectly logical for the CDC to say, wait a minute, we were planning on ending this mandate on a certain date. Let's wait a period of time until May 3rd, which was a very sound public health decision. So for a court to come in and interfere in that is really unfortunate. It's unfortunate because it's against public health principles, number one. And number two is because that's no place for the courts to do that. This is a CDC decision, and that's very bad precedent when you have courts making a decision and looking at what the basis of the decision was it
Starting point is 00:37:08 was not sound. Wow. I mean, it reminded me of the Stephen Seagall movie, you know, Tony Fouchy is above the law. You know, it's sort of, it's incredible that what he's complaining about, as you said, is the original cancel culture. He hates the founding fathers and the fact that they created three branches of government to keep checks on each other, legislative, executive, you know, and the judicial branches. He doesn't like the judicial branch getting involved with his politics. He should have, you know, unrestricted power, and the court should never be allowed to be involved. I talked about this last week, and we've got to keep talking about this. You have the WHO is attempting to sort of pass an international law that whatever they say in the
Starting point is 00:37:50 middle of a crisis supersedes all governments. I talked about how Senator Pan was trying to take over law enforcement. The health care, the health department would have power over law enforcement. And clearly, the writing is on the wall. These health, you know, bureaucrats want unfettered power over humanity. and they're really annoyed by anyone else in government or a judicial branch getting in their way. Really, truly, truly scary words. But, you know, that's what Fauci's good at.
Starting point is 00:38:22 He's good at, you know, sounding at like a little tiny Hitler in the middle of the United States of America. Sad little man. He did say this. He is the science, so I don't know why we keep questioning him. It's clearly obvious. So what he's talking about there is the TSA travel mandate. That was struck down by a Florida district court. And they appealed it.
Starting point is 00:38:42 The CDC appealed it. So this is, we're expecting some great science to come out to show, well, why did they appeal it? They had something in their back pocket to show these masks really effective. No, they didn't. This is Jen Saki, she's the press secretary for the president. This is the headline here looking at, she was asked about this. She says, Saki admits appealing the CDC mandate ruling is all about preserving power. Basically said fighting the rules about preserving the CDC's authority to do something like this, a mass mandate.
Starting point is 00:39:10 in the future for a future pandemic. So nothing to do about the science, just a power, literally a power grab. But I thought what's interesting is, we're seeing headlines all over the place of the CDC, the Department of Justice has appealed, they have appealed, they're fighting this, 48 hours after it was struck down
Starting point is 00:39:25 by this court, but they filed a notice of appeal. It's basically just a one to two page document that they file with the district court, it's saying we plan to appeal. The appeal itself is the legal argument that they're going to use to defend their appeal. They have not, from my understanding, filed that yet. So it's a notice of appeal.
Starting point is 00:39:46 The media jumped on this thing like it was this grand decision here of a new, the greatest court case in the world. So it seems like they're just, CDC, the DOJ is simply in a holding pattern right now. And for what, we can talk about that, but it's- Well, I mean, rightfully so. And it's sort of what, you know, we talked about last week when we're discussing this.
Starting point is 00:40:05 I think this potentially, if they decide to appeal, could be one of the most important, court cases in the history of the United States of America because it's not about COVID. This is about whether the CDC has the power to inflict decisions that take away our jobs. We're seeing in China people taking their homes being taken away from them because of COVID. That's the level of power that Anthony Fauci wants to have and this appeal right now. And I would guess they're trying to figure out whether or not they really want to risk a case going to the Supreme Court and deciding this once and for all because though he says it's on shaky ground, if I remember correctly,
Starting point is 00:40:43 this really isn't about how infectious or not. The judge says, I don't care whether or not mass work or not. My point is you are pointing to, you know, a CDC power that basically said you can euthanize a cat or a dog or a chicken or you can take people's property away from them, but you can't do something to them was the argument. Like all it talks about is property in the middle. middle of a pandemic and they're trying to push that into we have power over citizens and that's where they lost this case and so if they decide to take it up and i realize why it's a placeholder because
Starting point is 00:41:17 this could really spell an end to the power that the w hO is dreaming the CDC will have because they will work in partnership to control us over future pandemics people these are really really big decisions right now and frankly moments we should be on our phones and things to our legislators saying watch out for this. This is an end to the legislative process, which is all of this should have gone through the Congress and the Senate. Can we take people's businesses away? Can we lock them in their houses? Can we quarantine them? These aren't executive orders by a health department. That's not what they're there for. That's what's really hanging in the balance here. So it's interesting. It'll be interesting to see that they even dare to get into this. And frankly,
Starting point is 00:42:01 I hope they do. I think they're not on very unstable ground. In a world of zeros and ones, where power is attempting to be held, the world's health pandemic treaty is an obvious move at this point because there's so many losses domestically here and even internationally at the ground level and the state levels that it just has to happen. They have to try this one-size-fits-all approach. But a couple weeks ago, we reported on Shanghai locking down their 26-plus million citizens, and it was looking over here. We saw Philadelphia was the first big major city here to reinstate mass mandates. It was starting to look like, oh, my gosh, is this a repeat? This turned around really quick.
Starting point is 00:42:38 So people that don't like masks on their face, good news if you're a Philadelphia resident. Here's the headline, Philly lifts mass mandate hours after Mayor Jim Kinney defended it. It says Philadelphia's Board of Health rescinded its indoor mask mandate Thursday night, three days after it went to effect. And hours after Mayor Jim Kinney defended the controversial policy that made his city the outlier in the national COVID response. Goes on to say the city faced intense criticism from businesses and residents and raised the level of mandated COVID caution in the city almost precisely as the rest of the country seemed to move in the opposite direction. So again, we're hearing people are confused because of misinformation, but here's the mayor
Starting point is 00:43:17 literally talking to the public and defending this thing. And hours later, his Board of Health, which apparently there's no cross communication there, is ending this mass mandate. So I mean, my gosh, that's got to be confusing there. As long as it all turns out in our favor, go ahead. Be. as confused as you want to be. Right, right. And so, you know, the pendulum has swung so fast. So before the people that weren't wearing a mask or did not want to wear a mask were obviously the outliers here and they were looking around going, I can't believe all these people are wearing these masks. The science isn't quite there. It switched so fast now. Now we're looking around and there's only a few
Starting point is 00:43:58 people wearing masks. And so we as a part of our team went out on the street and we asked people, why are you still wearing these masks? And the answers may shock you. Check this out. What is kind of your gauge for when you feel comfortable without a mask and when you feel like you should definitely be wearing? I think we should be wearing masks all the time. For me, it's just like, oh, it's better to be safe than sorry.
Starting point is 00:44:23 So I'm just always wearing my mask. Typically, I wear it inside and outside all times. I feel like whenever I'm in public, I should always be wearing masks, especially around other people. Because the vaccinations rollouts have been largely to more privileged communities, I think there's a lot of people that aren't able to receive the vaccinations and I still want to wear my mask to ensure I'm being socially conscious for them. If I had a friend that was like that, they wouldn't be my friend very long. So, you know, not everyone's going to get vaccinated. That's kind of an unfortunate statistic. Cleary about getting the vaccine? I was not. I was ready to go. I was like, just put it in me.
Starting point is 00:45:17 We're not going to trust everyone to be vaccinated, so we're keeping our masks on. Where do you usually get your information on-com? Just social media sites, the news. Honestly, a lot of it comes through social media. So like just, you know, following sources such as, you know, CNN or MSN and no, all that stuff. I'm so used to wearing a mask. I don't really remember just not wearing it out in public anymore. I'm so used to the mask now
Starting point is 00:46:09 that even if they say like oh you don't really have to wear a mask I might just wear it just in case well I mean in some ways we laugh I feel bad for you know these people they've been honestly that when you think about
Starting point is 00:46:24 their sources CNN and MSNBC if you do watch if that's your source of information then you must be terrified I think they're still telling people I remember Sanjay Gupta even after the mask mandate was pulled from the plane saying I'm still going to wear my mask He wants everybody to continue to be afraid of the air and keep wearing masks. That is the monstrum coming from mainstream media.
Starting point is 00:46:45 And this is the result that you see. Luckily, you know, the minority and but still it's sad. Yeah, and people saying, I can't remember the time when we didn't wear masks. That, to me, is a really sad statement. Well, we've seen some of the politics and the social responses to these confusing mask situations. But let's talk about some of the science here. some new science that was just published. This was in a medical journal of Curis.
Starting point is 00:47:12 This was a peer reviewed study and its title correlation between mask compliance and COVID-19 outcomes in Europe. So they took 35 countries in Europe and they looked at it for six months during October 2020 to March 2021. So that was the entire continent as it was undergoing like a severe outburst of COVID-19 at the time this study was being analyzed. They looked at the daily case numbers, the deaths,
Starting point is 00:47:37 and mask usage. And this is what they wrote. This is what the authors found. The lack of negative correlation between mask usage in COVID-19 cases and deaths suggested that the widespread use of masks at a time when an effective intervention was most needed, i.e. during the strong 2020-2020, 2021 autumn winter peak, was not able to reduce COVID-19 transmission. They went on to say this in their conclusion.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Moreover, the moderate positive correlation between mask usage and deaths in which, Western Europe also suggests that the universal use of masks may have had harmful unintended consequences. Huge findings here in this study. Let's look at the table from this study because this really tells the story. So they have here statistically significant numbers. These are highlighted in the right there. And what statistically significant means is basically means it's unlikely to be explained by some simple chance or random facts. So there is some type of correlation they're finding there. And what they're finding, if you go take that column and go across in all of Europe, top column, masks and deaths. So they found a correlation between the percentage of time people wore those masks and the mortality rate from
Starting point is 00:48:52 COVID-19. They also found it in Western Europe. That was places like Austria, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy. These are places that lock down hard, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland. So this is what the chart look like when you bring it kind of on a plotted out. Each one of those dots is a country. And to the right, the further you go to the right is a higher percentage of mask wearing. So you can see most of those countries are over 50% of mask wearing, some outliers to the far right, almost like 95 there. And as this chart goes up, that blue line in the middle is called a regression line. And you see that is trending upwards. You don't want upwards here, people, because that means deaths per million from COVID-19. So there is a correlation, according to this
Starting point is 00:49:39 study. It is pure-reviewed. So the amount, the use of mass, the higher the rate of, and are we talking all-cause mortality? We're not saying how they died. We just know that deaths rose at the same time that mask usage rose in the countries. Yeah, these are actually COVID-19 deaths. So not just COVID-19. Okay, very good. The actual thing. we're trying to wear the mask to prevent is apparently something that's correlating. But let's go beyond that. So let's talk, you know, as we do on the show a lot, talk about the greater issues on these lockdowns, masks, obviously a big part of this, is early as June 2020, we had headlines looking like this. Another aspect that's coming to focus now, lockdown and
Starting point is 00:50:18 social distancing could make our immune system weaker, says scientists. That was just before the heart advisory and recovery team wrote this paper. Now, this team here is a UK doctor, scientist, economists. They all came together and formed over the concerns of this COVID-19 public health direction and the policy. And this was one of their papers in March 2021. This was a briefing in preparation for a parliamentary debate in the UK on vaccine passports. And they wrote this about the lockdowns. Heart scientists are concerned that this may result, extending lockdowns, may result in waning immunity to flu and other respiratory pathways. following a year where the population has had little exposure.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Evidence for this is already emerging in Australia, where a sharp increase in respiratory since-sensical virus infections in young children has been observed at an unusual time of the year. A child's immune system is not fully developed until the age of six or seven years old, and exposure to pathogens during these early years help shape an individual's ability to deal with common pathogens
Starting point is 00:51:20 circulating within the population. And sure enough, right on target in the northern, the northern hemisphere, we started to see those RSV respiratory viruses go up. Here's the headline here. It says a little known virus that surged in children this year. Doctors used to know RSV as a seasonal virus that emerged in the winter, but in the last few months in the northern hemisphere, there has been a surprising surge in cases. And of course, I mean, for anyone that, if you're new to the show, you're going, wow, this is interesting information. If you've been watching, we warned of this. This was our issue.
Starting point is 00:51:55 I said it very clearly. This is like saying, you know, in order, if you want to get stronger, stop going to the gym and lifting weights. Just sit at home, maybe put some little electrodes that shock your muscles. That's what's going to do it. You know, like some product you bought in the middle of the night. That's what these masks and these lockdowns were. It was a cheap approach towards immunity that we've never attempted before. Our children are constantly in contact with bacteria and viruses in the dirt when they play,
Starting point is 00:52:23 the air all the time, licking freaking sidewalks and what have you, as disgusting as it is, it's what builds their immune system to remove them. And remember whether lockdowns or mass work, if they worked the way they said they would work, then they're being denied access to all of these things and all the anti-bacterial soaps. All of this was clearly going to be dangerous, you know, to their future immune system, which from the dawn of man, from the creation of man, whether you believe in creation, you believe in creation or evolution, it was in contact and in concert with these vaccines and viruses that
Starting point is 00:52:59 we've learned to live. So to take a break and let the virus keep mutating and getting stronger, yet we stop working out against it? So stupid. It just seems so obvious to anyone that has blood pumping through their veins. And the reason we're talking about this, why are we talking about this? We're bringing the viewers and the listeners on this investigation with us. So we're talking about the immunity. Some alarming headlines have been coming out now about children and hepatitis link. There's an alarming uptake in hepatitis. Here's the headline. Scientists investigating mystery hepatitis and children probe linked to lowered immunity due to lockdown. Here is another headline. Hepatitis. Adinovirus is prime suspect in mystery outbreak in children. And this isn't,
Starting point is 00:53:47 You know, it's a big deal because mystery outbreak of hepatitis and children grows first death reported. And understand it at least, you go into this article. It says at least 17 children. That's 10% of all the cases they've discovered worldwide here have required liver transplant. So this is not a mild thing. And the ages of these children are from like one month to like 16 years old. So this is wide range. Many of them are the cluster of it's under 10 years old.
Starting point is 00:54:14 But we're trying to figure out, you know, there's a couple. directions here following the data and we look and say well what have these all of these children now is being found around the world all at the same time so what have all these children around the world been exposed to well a common theme is lockdowns another common theme is maybe not the one-month old children but these younger children is the vaccine so as we're as we're looking into this investigation these data points we start we start to bring stuff back that we've covered before to really try to paint a picture and investigate this and maybe someone out there who's much smarter than you or I, a scientist, another Gert van denbosch,
Starting point is 00:54:49 another Robert Malone can look at this and go, that's my wheelhouse, I know exactly what's going on there. Yeah, it is. I've seen these headlines, and of course, I think we have to point out that these are, you know, though they are happening in countries all around, the headlines showing us it's in multiple continents now, but it is still a very small group of children, but it was interesting looking at some of these articles,
Starting point is 00:55:10 adenavirus, like, and saying a new adenavirus we've never seen before. And you think, you know, how many countries are using an adenavirus vector vaccine? That's what we're using here, Johnson & Johnson, the AstraZeneca vaccine in Europe. And then you think about it's a monkey adenavirus that isn't supposed to affect humanity at all. Well, now everyone's taking it. In Gehrbandon Bosch's point, how is that pressuring adenoviruses mutations all around them?
Starting point is 00:55:38 What happens when those people are coming in contact with addina viruses and then are they creating some mutated version that's out there? I mean, so many questions, but clearly messing with nature is not a good idea. And we're just seeing so many headlines that it makes you feel, and maybe they're just isolated cases being blown up too much. But it feels like we're living in a different world, that somehow the scientists that were supposed to be protecting us are making our environment more and more dangerous for us
Starting point is 00:56:08 and keeping us from being able to sort of keep up and keep pace with the fitness of the viruses and bacteria, where's our fitness? And how are we going to keep that if they keep mandating us to sit on our couches, watch television, and eat to go food, as everyone in Shanghai is being forced to do right now. It's terrible. Right, right. Well, let's shift over rapidly here to the last story we're going to cover. And perhaps one of the biggest stories in the United States,
Starting point is 00:56:36 we're talking about our domestic food production, our food sovereignty. It looks like some of the issues that have been happening around, around the world are now knocking at our doors here in the United States. Take a look at this in the news. Food processing plants all over the country seem to be catching fire. 40,000 pounds of food meant to feed people in a food desert near Maricopas is completely gone. Eastern Oregon where crews are battling a major fire at a potato chip processing plant. Taylor Farms is a major agriculture company.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Salinas fire tells us that 85 to 90 percent of the building is a total loss. Police saying a Cessna 340 twin-engine plane crashed onto the side of the General Mills cereal plant here. The large fire at a potato processing plant in Belfast Thursday is expected to have ripple effects across Maine's agricultural industry. Hayburn police say the pilot died when his small airplane crashed into a potato processing plant near Highway 30. Industrial accidents happen, of course, but this is a lot of industrial accidents at food processing facilities at the same time. warning us about food shortages. The emergency evacuations tonight with a massive fire burning at a fertilizer plant in North Carolina. The fire at this Winston-Salem fertilizer plant now burning for 24 hours. Food prices are at an all-time high, but experts predict the war in Ukraine is about to make
Starting point is 00:58:00 the situation a lot worse. That's because sanctions have blocked fertilizer nutrients from being exported from Russia. The three top exporters of these nutrients are Russia, China, and Canada. This potash is from Canada, but a shortage in delivery trucks due to a border vaccine mandate has raised costs nearly 40%. And when Russia invaded Ukraine, they and Belarus banned their nutrient exports as well. So now he and farmers across the country are paying nearly 200% more for it than they did last year. Wheat supply is strange driving prices up. Russia and Ukraine produce a third of the world's wheat and barley exports disrupting supplies around the globe, translating to higher prices. for products in the bread aisle here at home and causing shortages.
Starting point is 00:58:46 In New Jersey Company, we're calling more than 120,000 pounds of ground beef over fears it might be contaminated with ecoli. Egg prices soaring and experts warned things will likely get even worse. There is an H5N1 avian influenza outbreak right now. Almost 23 million birds have been killed to prevent the spread of avian influenza. What's going on? You've got some people speculating that this might be an intentional way to disrupt the food supply. That is one of the more disturbing news montages that we've played. I have to say that there's just something so strange about how these stories all
Starting point is 00:59:25 line up at the same time. Right, right. And there's lots of offshoot on these stories. There's so many ways we can report on this. And let's just stick to the facts and let's look at what we have here. So like the report said, you know, at any other time in the United States history may not have been a big deal to see some of these things happen, could recover. Not so much this time a lot of concerned eyes are watching and why are they watching? Because Ukraine, this is the Ukraine war, the Russian Ukraine war, World Bank warns of human catastrophe food crisis. Now we're seeing these headlines. Before it was,
Starting point is 00:59:57 it was kind of thinking, well, if this war goes a little further, if it prolongs, we're going to start seeing issues. Now we're seeing headlines like that. And let's go to the UN Food Price Index. So this is the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations. And they have, what's called the FAO Food Price Index. And the headline, it says it makes a giant leap to another all-time high in March. So what it says here, let's look at the chart first. It looks basically, you have four lines here. So you have that bottom line there in light blue is 2019.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Pretty much all good. The food price index, which is basically a number. They gave it. It's a little below 100 there, mostly through 2019. And then you see in 2020, starting to go up a little bit, still tracking with 2019. And then in 2021, the pandemic disrupts the food chain. Boom. You're going up.
Starting point is 01:00:49 And now, 2022, in that red, you're seeing almost a vertical exponential line. And so this is what they had to say about it at the UN. The FAO Food Price Index averaged 159.3 points in March 22. Up 17.9 points or 12.6% from February, making a giant leap to a new to a new, to a new highest level since the inception in 1990. The largest increase reflects new all-time highs for vegetable oils, cereals, and meat subindices, while those of sugar and dairy products also rose significantly. So these are the factors painting this background of this picture that we're moving into now in the United States. This is the backdrop, if you will. So let's go to this headline
Starting point is 01:01:33 here because there's been a lot of reporting about these explosions at food production plants. this is really one of the best articles I've seen reporting on this because it just breaks down every single one of them when they were, what they were, and they doesn't go off into kind of conjectures or talking about anything else. But there's really no rhyme or reason except they're hitting food production plants. That's the only common factor here. We're talking Oregon, Maine, California, 21 different plants and incidences at these plants. Look at this. Look at this. Look how well dispersed is across the country. And what's so shocking is how little news reporting there is.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I would think the FBI, I would be expecting here, FBI investigating outbreak of potential attacks or arson on, you know, food packaging plants across America, yet nobody seems to care. And there's been 21, a lot of local news coverage. It kind of pops on the radar and then just goes the next day into the memory hole. No one really remembers it. So people started putting these dots together. Thank God. But one of the things that struck to struck out to me that when I was looking at this, two of the incidences that were caused by planes, private planes crashing directly into the plants, killing the
Starting point is 01:02:47 operators of these plants. And that's something I don't really recall plants directly going into food processing plants exploding and destroying or taking the plants off. That's so bizarre, especially when most of these food processing plants are out in the middle of a hay field somewhere or a potato field. not a building in sight in any direction. Like, oh my God, I can't, whoa, whoa. It's like a tractor beam sucking me in. And what is going on? You hit the only two-story building in the 200 mile vicinity.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Plenty of places to land in court fields all around you. So weird. That's a great place to start an investigation is where coincidences look like coincidences are happening. You got to start looking there. And it's been spread out. Potato manufacturers, onion manufacturers, onion. processing plants, a lot of meat processing plants, and even Azura standard, that was in Oregon, that was an independent distributor of natural and organic foods. They went, their whole warehouse
Starting point is 01:03:45 facility burned down to the ground. Some of these facilities have built back, are like limited capacity. So some of them are, but a lot of them have not. But, you know, as I was researching this story, another headline came up that piqued my interest. And this is what it was right here, talking about fertilizer companies. Fertilizer company complains about railroad shipment. limits. And I thought, why the heck is this happening right now? Well, this was, that was Union Pacific that is, is livening this, the railroads supply of fertilizer on their, on their tracks. And this was the press release from the company, the fertilizer company. It's called CF Industries Holding. They're, their America is basically one of their leading agricultural fertilizer manufacturers.
Starting point is 01:04:29 And this is what it says here, CF Industries, Union Pacific curtails fertilizer shipments. The timing of this action by Union Pacific could not come at a worse time for farmers, says Tony Will, President and Chief Executive Officer, CF Holdings, Industry Holdings, Incorporated. Not only will fertilizer be delayed by these shipment restrictions, but additional fertilizer needed to complete spring applications may be unable to reach farmers at all. He goes on to say this. By placing this arbitrary restriction on just a handful of shippers, Union Pacific is jeopardizing farmers, harvest and increasing the cost of food for consumers. And it seems like this pot is literally the worst time. The trains are just isolating fertilizer that needs to get these farmers and saying,
Starting point is 01:05:13 now limited quantities, we're just not going to be able to get it to everybody. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, they're packing the cars. The cars are on the tracks. There's congestion on the tracks with these cars. They can't get them moving. They don't have the people to get them moving. It doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:05:28 And just yesterday, digging into this story, there was over eight hours of testimony in front of what's called the Surface Transportation Board. That's the United States Government Independent Agency that governs over the rail systems and the maritime shipping lanes. And again, over eight hours, here's just a slice of what was discussed at this board meeting. Take a look. The workers represented by TTD-affiliated unions have been sounding the alarm on the state of the freight rail industry for years. It is deeply unfortunate, but also completely predictable, that we find ourselves here today. As both railroad employees and customers sit before you to express a shared simple fact,
Starting point is 01:06:08 that today's freight rail network is simply not working for anyone other than railroad investors. We hope that the board embraces this opportunity to put the freight rail industry on a new path. The forces that brought us here today are not the result of the pandemic, the supply chain crunch, or the so-called great resignation. Rather, Class 1 carriers adopted precision-scheduled railroading and shrank the workforce and equipment needed to effectively operate a railroad without care for impacts on service or customers. As Chairman Oberman pointed out, the Class 1s collectively have reduced their workforce by 29% over the last six years.
Starting point is 01:06:43 That is about 45,000 employees cut from payroll. The railroads laid off thousands of engineers and conductors over the last few years. In fact, in the five years prior to the pandemic, BNSF cut its train and engine work workforce by 27 percent, NS by 24 percent, UP by 32 percent, and CSX by a whopping 43 percent. It is no mystery why the railroads can't provide flexibility or surge capacity right now. They eliminated those employees in the pursuit of an operating ratio and higher profits and have now been caught with their hand to the cookie jar. So what we're seeing here, what was being said there, he says this isn't a result of the pandemic.
Starting point is 01:07:24 It's not a result of this great resignation, but what's interesting is that is happening right in the middle of this thing against the backdrop of the war. So this is why this is going to be, I believe, researching this, a problem that's going to ripple out in the United States and be a major discussion point. So he mentioned something called precision scheduled railroading. So these class one railroads, and they deter them class one, class two, class three by their revenue. So they're literally ranked by their revenue. They did this precision scheduled railroading to make lean their operating ratios.
Starting point is 01:07:55 So they do an operation model that seeks to streamline their operations. And in order to streamline operations, part of that is reducing headcount or laying people off in order to maximize profits. And here is just a headline. Fish this last week, Union Pacific profits. Remember, this is the company that's throttling the fertilizer shipments. Union Pacific rate hikes, push Railroad Q1 profits up 22%. I mean, it's kind of like reporting on this. It's just the tale of greed that we always talk about with the pharmaceutical industries.
Starting point is 01:08:24 But these workers shortages, really to put this into a graph, this is what it looks like here. And this was an article called The Perils of Precision Scheduled Railroading. And it has a graph here, and it shows over the years, you know, you have 20, around 2016, you see this stepped. And that's right when this precision scheduled railroading entered. You see this step down of headcount, dropping, dropping, dropping. And so they're making their workers and their employment leaner and leaner and leaner. And they can't adapt to this surge capacity. So you have the COVID-19 pandemic coming in and slowing down these railroads, slowing down the food chain.
Starting point is 01:09:06 And then all of a sudden you have a double effect. You have the restrictions being lifted. So shipping's back to normal. And then you have the spring planting season. So there's another surge on fertilizer and goods. So there's literally no capacity for people. They're having to rapidly go out and hire workers to move these cars and these trains because they don't have them anymore. Wow.
Starting point is 01:09:29 I mean, it really makes you think we hear in the news, but I think we've got to start looking to the future, which is a lot of why we're having this conversation now. What does this mean? If we're not fertilizing the plants, we're not getting the grains growing that affects grain production, bread production. We're hearing things out of the Ukraine that are similar. All of this is it seems like we are. are, we're on a crash course for some very, very difficult times ahead here in America.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Well, with this information, this is going to help people hopefully prepare if they need to prepare or keep an eye out for what's coming and maybe be on the front end of this. If, you know, God forbid something does like that, something happens like that. Yeah. All right, Jeffrey, great reporting. Thank you very much. I know you're continuing to track a lot of this stuff. you know, so just keep up the great work. It's really been amazing to watch you in this process and to work together on this. And again, it takes a team beyond Jeffrey and I, but you're special. We love you and we look forward to seeing you next week.
Starting point is 01:10:36 All right, though. Thank you. All right. All right. Well, you know, when we think about this, and a lot of this news, right, I mean, we look at the articles. We're talking to specialists all around, but sometimes, you know, you got to sort of take it to the ground. What's the level on the ground? How do we get to somebody that can tell us whether this is real or not?
Starting point is 01:10:55 Does it matter that the fertilizer is having trouble in railroads and things like that? So in order to get some answers to that, we wanted to reach out to one of our friends that's been on this show before. A fifth generation cattle rancher Chad Sullivan, who is out there. He's got ranches in Texas and Colorado, a family business, as I've said, for five generations. We reached out and said, is this real? What's going on? He decided he would come on to talk about it. So just to remind you who he is, he came on in the middle of the COVID pandemic, talking about the pressure that was coming down in the meat industry, especially because there were, you know, sort of conglomerate owners that were really making it difficult to sell their meats and then, you know, packaging plants shutting down. This is just a sort of a reflection on Chad Sullivan for those of you who have not met him before. Yesterday, the first shipment of imported beef from the country of Namibia hit the shores of the United States of America.
Starting point is 01:12:01 And yet this morning, they are telling us to prepare to euthanize harvest-ready cattle. Am I the only one that sees a problem in this? Our family has owned this ranch for 71 years. ranch because we are tied to the land and we're deeply rooted here. It is who we are, it's who I, how we identify ourselves. And I am concerned. When the pandemic hit, we started seeing food shortages across the board. The frenzy is real. There is a shortage triggering panic. Customers started fighting over toilet paper and water. Store shelves nationwide are dwindling or totally empty. Even though we were seeing empty shelves in the grocery stores, whether it be through agricultural
Starting point is 01:12:53 products or other products, the reason behind that was because of a backlog in production. The consumer needs to know how volatile their food supply is. For the last five years, our industry has been in turmoil. Why have we allowed JBS a Brazilian-owned meat processing company to become the largest beef processor not only in the world but in the United States. Why are we allowing these foreign entities to control our whole food system when we have laws, antitrust, anti-monopolistic laws to keep that from happening? People are waking up because of COVID, because of those empty shells, because of the lack of processing taking place in those facilities. People had to wake up because all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:13:41 the things that met their needs weren't there. Our food system in the United States is vulnerable, and it is worse now because of the pandemic. Well, that was over a year ago that Shad Sullivan warned us that our food system was vulnerable. It's my honor to be joined by him now to see if we're in better shape than we were a year ago, the middle of COVID, or are we tracking in the wrong direction? So Shad, I want to thank you for taking the time to join us today. Thank you, Dale. So, you know, there's a lot that we've reported on. today we've talked about you know this sort of mysterious burning of food packing plants just questions
Starting point is 01:14:29 about fertilizer being delivered all these things i want to throw all that aside i don't want to sort of put words in your mouth you're a rancher and so from your perspective what is you know how is your industry are you in a good place or are there really um things that are constricting what may be the future of, you know, ranchers like yourself being able to do your job. Oh, no, Dale, we're still in the fight of our lives here in rural America. You know, all of this, these things that's happened from since COVID, including COVID, has had an enormous effect on production inputs. They're higher than ever.
Starting point is 01:15:15 As you well know, you know, there's a war in Ukraine right now. Ukraine and Russia are huge exporters of grain. There's a drought in part of the United States that is affecting wheat and grain production, cattle production. And so all of these inputs are exponentially increasing, for example, last fall when I planted my wheat, actually in 2021, you know, I was paying up there around $350 a ton for fertilizer to plant wheat by the next. Next fall, I was, it's up there around $800 to $1,000 and they say it's going further. Our transportation costs are enormous. And there's an aura of feeling like something.
Starting point is 01:16:03 There's a, you know, a strategic storm coming here with our food supply. There's so many things coming together at once, you know, and that includes the war in Ukraine, these inflation, inflationary costs, what the droughts. that are going on across the bread basket. You know, the COVID payments have a lot to do with it. And then we're still fighting the centralization of our food supply. And we have enormous hurdles in front of us to try and be profitable in bringing food to the United States consumer.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Let's because I think it's on everyone's mind right now, the war in Ukraine, specifically for those of us that, you know, obviously the inhumanity is difficult to watch. It's hard to watch war, people being displaced. But how does that affect the American food supply system? And more specifically, why is grain in Ukraine effect ranching and farming here in America? What are the specific effects that are being pressed upon you from the war in Ukraine right now? Well, it's a supply and demand issue. So Russia and Ukraine export enormous amounts of grain to the United States.
Starting point is 01:17:16 States and oil, a lot of input, especially a lot of fertilizer. We import a lot of fertilizer from those countries. So it becomes down to a supply and demand issue. And if we're not producing the normal amount of grain that we should be producing, you know, let's take this winter, for example, Texas and the Southern Plains have been in an incredibly tough drought a lot. And I I mean a lot of wheat was disastered, has not been able to produce. And so we're going to see a significant supply and demand issue come along. It's not going to be right now, but it's coming down the road because of these products and lack thereof being imported and being grown here in the United States.
Starting point is 01:18:02 So we normally supply a large part of our grain here, but for the cattle ranching, that's been diminished. So then how is the war in Ukraine? they have to deliver grain how is their grain supply are they in a drought or anything other than the war going on is that going to affect their supply coming here i can't speak on weather conditions over there but you know right now is their planting season i believe and and so if they're in the middle of a war and trying to get get crops in as well and i know those farmers are over there you know there's a lot of production over there that is very fertile land and perhaps that's part of the reason that Russia is invaded. But all of that is implemented in trade within the United States back and forth.
Starting point is 01:18:49 So if they can't get their crop in, then we are unable to use those grains and those imports for foodstuffs that we need. Now we're hearing things about fertilizer, B, like the train system, aren't going to be delivering as much fertilizer. Is that true? Is that something you're hearing about? Or is that just media high? Yeah, no, that's something that I'm hearing about.
Starting point is 01:19:16 And it's reflected through the price of fertilizer here now in the United States. You know, I'm hearing that, you know, fertilizer can get to $1,200 a ton. That is unique and unprecedented in agriculture. And it's going to wreak havoc on a lot of operations. We need that fertilizer to grow, you know, food crops and foodstuffs for animal resources. And so it is a huge concern. You know, I'm like you, I hear a lot of things going on, as some of it's maybe hearsay. But I do know Russia provides us with a lot of fertilizer.
Starting point is 01:19:56 And, you know, here we go back to theories, but I think there was a fertilizer plant in Pennsylvania that burned down this winter. And so all of these things are eye-opening and thought-provoking and seeing where exactly are we going to go with these issues that seem to be coming full circle and are all interwoven into an end game of food supply and food production and consumption. And then you mentioned the fertilizer plant burning down. We talked about, you know, somewhere,
Starting point is 01:20:34 around 20, there's been, it's being reported that somewhere around 20 different food packaging and distribution plants have burned down since over the last two years at the same time as COVID. Are you, is that another reality? Are you hearing about that? Is that something being discussed amongst ranchers and farmers? Well, like you, I keep hearing about this. And I do know, from my experience on August 9th, 2019, when the first fire in a beef packing plant in southwest Kansas took place and wreaked havoc on our cattle marketing system overnight. In a matter of three days, we lost anywhere from 18 to 40 percent of our equity in our cattle herds. And that seemed to be the forerunner of what was going on. And now, of course, thanks to social media
Starting point is 01:21:26 and news reports and gossip. There's a lot of of processing, food processing facilities that have either been damaged or destroyed. You know, I saw yesterday, I counted like 26 in the last two years.
Starting point is 01:21:42 And that's really concerning to the American consumer because once we get down the road, and I'm calling this out September, October of 2022, when the effects of these supply issues take place. Not only is the wheat issue a problem, but drought into the northern plains from Canada, clear down to central Texas, has taken a toll on beef production.
Starting point is 01:22:10 And so we have an influx of cattle going to market for the past five to six months. Feed lots are full. So when those feedlots, those cattle and the feedlots are harvested, then we're going to have a low supply of those cattle. It's going to happen. And so I'm anxious to see where that's really going to take us in terms of supply chains. We have to remember we still have a centralization problem that we were experienced during COVID of power. You know, so once you centralize your food supply system, obviously we put it in danger. And if they're in control of 80 plus percent of the beef supply.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Well, take me through that just a little bit, just for those of us that don't know what, you know, centralized, I think I think of centralized banking, but it's centralized, are you saying there's like a conglomerate that's sort of controlling how the beef is being distributed? Well, we have to remember that four companies in the United States basically own the supply chain of beef to the American consumer, 85% of it, in fact. And so when you have that concentration of power, which by the way is illegal and it's been abled by the United States Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, to see acquisitions and mergers of those huge monopolized companies over the years, we get a real problem. And that's what we saw back during COVID when those processors and their employees experience. experienced the COVID.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Employees were unable to get to work. And so the supply chains, the ability to process those cattle and in other industries was almost delineated. And that's why we saw empty shells back during the height of COVID. How is this affecting production? Are producers that we do still have as many producers, you know, bringing the food forward? No. I mean, every day, I watch social media closely. every day I'm seeing complete herd dispersal sales across the central part of the United States.
Starting point is 01:24:25 These are things that are very concerning to the, should be to the American consumer, but especially in rural America. Because once we hollow out rural America, we no longer have health care facilities, churches, schools, and that's something to be really, really concerned about at this point. the lack of production is going to be an issue in supply chain to the consumer. You know, since 2015, we've lost 12,000 beef producers or farmers and ranchers across America. And it seems like the last two years, this thing is taking a second year and we're losing more and more. Now, there's definitely a, I would say, a growing movement to people that say good.
Starting point is 01:25:15 ranching farming is bad for the environment. There's this huge green New Deal, Klaus Schwab, great reset. I'm not sure how much of this stuff you follow, but talk about that everyone's gonna stop eating meat. A recent article just said within the next, I think, 10 years, we'll see a total end to cattle ranching. Protein will be made in laboratories.
Starting point is 01:25:39 We can do designer meats there. We've got the Impossible Burger. When you look at packaging plants burning down and distribution plants, when you see fertilizer being held from getting to use so that you can grow the crops you need, is there some part of you that wonders, is there an agenda at play here? I mean, obviously, you have weather issues, drought, you know, whether you can control that. But some of this seems like it could be controlled. It seems like our government could be helping you, but instead does it feel like there's a, there's a. force against you that is trying to see an end to be production? There absolutely is and it's a global elite force.
Starting point is 01:26:24 And so in order, you know, the end game here, Dale, is production and consumption control, along with population control. I call it communism, right? And so in order for them to implement this control, not in America, but across the world, they want this American producers off the land. they had to create a crisis. And that crisis was climate change. First, it was global warming.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Now that crisis is climate change. In order to fix climate change, they had to create a solution. And that solution is what they call sustainability. Now, at the end of that, sustainability is total production and consumption control. So you have production control from the top down instead of it being from the producer up. And that control is going to result in basically socialism or what I call communism. Socialism is just volunteer communism is all that is. And so that's what we're seeing.
Starting point is 01:27:28 And we're seeing it through what we call private-public partnerships or public-private partnerships where non-governmental organizations and environmental non-governmental organizations, partner up with governmental organizations. So you may have the Nature Conservancy or the World Wildlife Fund partnering up with the United States Department of Agriculture to give incentives to ranchers to produce and off the land in the way that they see fit, not that the rancher sees fit. And what this turns into is a private property rights issue. And so that's all a part of this word we call sustainability in in production control and you see it everywhere it's not just in the agricultural industry that is just a buzz word to say hey we want to produce what you're controlling
Starting point is 01:28:17 and how you're or want to control what you're producing and how you're producing it and it's very very very scary you know uh the biden administration signed executive order 14008 which is called the america the beautiful plan and it is uh the plan the plan is to set aside 30% of America's land and waters into preservation by 2030. So that requires an enormous amount of land to be taken off and off of the tax rolls and out of production in America. But that is not the end of it. That is to be followed up by the United Nations 50 by 50 50 plan where they will conserve 50% of the world, global land and water for preservation. by 2050. And then it will just keep going. Sustainability never has an ending to it. You're never good
Starting point is 01:29:11 enough. So that's where we're at. Yes, the agenda is strong. I just got back from the 30 by 30 summit in Lincoln, Nebraska this week brought to us by the American Stewards of Liberty out of Austin. They're a private property rights organization that are truly American heroes. And they they put together teams to help us understand how this agenda is taking place. And so I think we're headed for disaster if the American producer and consumer doesn't really wake up. Some people call these conspiracy theories, but really they're putting them into action right now. And I see it even on my local county level.
Starting point is 01:29:55 Yeah, I was going to just ask you that when you're at these events, with large groups of ranchers, would you say the majority are having conversations in this arena of what would be described as conspiracy theory, or most of them are just staying away from it? Like, what is the sense among those ranchers? Do they feel there's a real press, you know, onto their lifestyle? I mean, you know, the United States of America is built on the back of ram. Ranching is where we start. You think about the cowboy and, you know, the, you know, the,
Starting point is 01:30:29 the cowboy is under siege here, you know, is that the conversation that's happening amongst, would you say the majority of ranchers or is it still a minority that are seeing this, this sort of global push? Well, it's a minority at this point, but the line of freedom is being drawn. And one thing that comes into play in a huge way right now is the American rancher and food producers backs are against the wall. They're in financially terrible shape, so they're like, We need help. We need something. So when you have these public-private partnerships come in and say, hey, put a conservation easement on your ranch and we'll pay you this or you'll get a tax credit for that and it'll help you. It sounds really good. So these people are desperate to receive the help.
Starting point is 01:31:14 The problem here is, is we have to decide if we're going to save our constitutional republic, the question is, are you going to stand on the line of freedom and may have to give something up? or are you going to give your productive rights and your nailable rights over to those who want to control the world? And so it's it's kind of a line. The majority of them aren't really waking up to it yet, but it is climbing in a hurry. And once it starts affecting those in urban on the outskirts of these large cities, which it has through national heritage areas, I think we'll get a lot more people to wake up. So we have to choose it now, liberty or control, and we're on the line. And so when you see all of this coming together, you said September, October, is that where
Starting point is 01:32:07 you sort of see all of these different issues, supply chain issues, fertilizer, you know, Ukraine, war? Where does it, where does it hit the consumer? Where do you think we're going to see it in our grocery store and say, my God, what just happened? I think if we don't switch something around right now. I think starting in late September going through the next year, we're going to see major supply chain issues just because of not of the control issue at this point, but maybe because of the war, number one, number two, these droughts in the central bread basket of the United States, you know, when you dump as many cattle as we've dumped into the supply chain that are there now, we're going to have a shortage later on. And that shortage doesn't come until I would say
Starting point is 01:32:53 starting September through next year and it could be disastrous. I'm anxious to see, you know, what is going to happen. I don't really depend on the centralized food chain myself and our family. We grow a lot of our food, but we do purchase a lot as well. So it's something that I think if you're not into the farm to table movement, I think you need to be watching that really close. being at least prepared. We're not doomsdayers. We're not going to, you know, vary a building in the ground and have a bunker, but we are prepared on their shelves in our pantry. We have plans to, you know, if our grid would happen to go down, we're able to get water. And, you know, ranchers and rural America is probably more prepared for something catastrophic than
Starting point is 01:33:46 urban America. But I do see it growing in urban America a little bit. And so that's good. I think the more attentive to are what could come down the pike and the problems that all of this, these issues have come together, I think is better. You know, the American citizen is waking up a little bit. So nobody's more awake than the person that's got the ear on the ground. So as a rancher that finds yourself in the middle of this, are there things you're doing differently to prepare going into this ball and this winter than perhaps you've done other years? Well, maybe not anything different, but maybe more, right? So we've always canned a lot of food.
Starting point is 01:34:28 We've always held, you know, just because we were so far from town. And I'm the, I'm the grandchild and child of people that came through the depression. So we know how to do all those things and live off the land. So I wouldn't say we're doing it more in a panic mode, but maybe more on a quantitative level than we normally have. Yes, and you know, we do have plans. My wife and I have made plans just in case something would happen. My mother, who is a widow and lives on a ranch 35 miles from the closest town, she's always been prepared and she's like bringing it on.
Starting point is 01:35:05 We'll be fine through it. So is that what you recommend? Should people start really considering sort of food stores inside their own homes? Is that one of the things you would recommend? You know, one of the things I'm doing, I'm working with an organic farmer. I'm going to, for the first time in my life, actually, I'm buying a cow to have it sort of all put in a freezer. I'll probably share it with my neighbor. But those are the types of things that I'm doing. Do you think people should be thinking about that sort of long term more than they ever
Starting point is 01:35:33 have before? I think so. I think, you know, if you go into the store now, the dry goods are really scarce on the shelf, things like pasta and spaghetti and stuff like that, a few canned goods. But I think the more prepared the consumer can be, the better it is. I'm not saying going panic by. I'm not saying that at all. But I am saying every time you go to the store, maybe grab a little more to put on the shelf. The farm to table movement is huge. I am selling beef like you can't believe.
Starting point is 01:36:07 We raise and grow our own beef and we process it through a U.S. inspected facility. And I've had people come to me since March of 2020 and say, hey, can I buy 10 pounds? Can I buy $150 worth? And so that is becoming a lot more of the urban type people wanting a little bit of meat to have on hand. Number one, because they know where it comes from. And number two, because I can make it affordable through my program. So I think that those deep in the urban areas, in the cities, I think it's smart. You need to have a little bit of, you know, six weeks of backup supplies.
Starting point is 01:36:48 I think that's just good business as of right now. Because whether you like it or not, we look around the world and we're in turmoil. And we're just one catastrophic event away from something that could send the supply chains reeling again and actually just shut them down completely, not for a week or a month, but maybe multiple months. And that's pretty scary. All right, Chad. Thank you very much. I think those are great thoughts.
Starting point is 01:37:14 appreciate it. And I know, you know, you've stayed in contact with us. I want you to continue to do so if there is anything on the horizon. If you see an upset coming that maybe perhaps because we're not watching it, you know, right there on the front lines, I hope you'll just keep us informed of what's taking places as we move forward in these very troubling and unsettling times. Yeah. Well, Dale, it's always good to talk to you guys and I sure appreciate the time and we'll be in touch. All right. We'll keep you in our prayers. Take care. Thank you, sir. Well, I mean, you can see. I think we can all get that feeling.
Starting point is 01:37:49 And maybe it's not because, you know, there were those moments where there were shelves empty in stores. And now there's some issues with supply chains around sunflower oil, safflower oils, things, crackers, potato chips I've heard are going to be issues because those are things that are coming out of the Ukraine. But while all this is happening, you have rising gas prices. And of course, nothing says that a nation is in flux more than inflation, which is, which is what really seems to be affecting so many people across this country as we speak.
Starting point is 01:38:19 This is what that looks like in the news. Inflation is rising at its fastest rate in 40 years. Inflation hit its highest levels since 1982. Americans are paying an additional $276 per month. Fuel, food, and shelter the biggest drivers behind inflation's highest increase in four decades. There is fresh evidence tonight of just how bad inflation has gotten in the U.S. Consumer prices in January jump 7.5% from a year earlier. Everything has really gone up and it's gone up substantially food, almost 10%.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Look at gas. I mean, that's out of control. But, you know, rent, 5%. Electricity, almost 12%. The Consumer Price Index report showing a 7.9% rise over the last year. Experts are saying expect to see that inflation number rise even more, potentially surpassing 8. We're finding it's much harder to reopen the economy than it was to shut down and the costs have been staggered. Inflation is not gentle. It's a sledgehammer and we're seeing that play out in the numbers. The Biden administration acknowledging it may get even worse before it gets better. Well, I mean, we've shown you the news. We're all seeing it in the news, of course.
Starting point is 01:39:31 We've just talked to Shad on the ground level when it comes to food. I want to take maybe a sort of bird's eye view with someone that perhaps understand some of the political implications of what we're seeing here. Of course, I'm talking about, you know, one of our favorite guests. We've had her before Catherine Austin Fitz, former Assistant Secretary of Housing and Federal Housing Commission at the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development, former managing director, member of the board of directors of Dylan Reed and company. She's the president of Salari, Inc. And if you haven't checked out solari.com, then you're missing out on one of the great resources on the planet earth today. It's my honor and pleasure to be joined.
Starting point is 01:40:11 Now by Catherine Austin Fitz. Catherine, thank you for taking the time today. Hey, Del. And I just have to compliment you on your last guest. I was sitting here watching. What a great description of what's going on in the food supply. Really, really good. And so when you watch that, let's just start right there.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Because, I mean, you have worked for the government. You've watched how, you know, and it's not easy, right? I mean, I think we judge that government's hard to keep hundreds of millions of people in some sense of order, decisions have to be made. But here you have a rancher. He's just on the ground. This is just a working man. This is literally, you know, the backbone of America.
Starting point is 01:40:51 And I said to him, as we think of the American cowboy, there's no image that better signifies who we are as a nation, how we started, and to think that the pressure he's feeling. And he seems to have a sense that it's coming from powers that are higher up outside of his direct contact. What is your sense of that from the background that you've had when we look at it? So we've had a process that has been going on
Starting point is 01:41:20 for a long time in many industries, but you really see it and feel it and food. And that process is to create an unfair state of play between insiders and outsiders and government policy being used to significantly advantage the insiders vis-a-vis the outsiders. And if you, you know, and that's not one thing,
Starting point is 01:41:45 it's thousands of different policies dealt, but it significantly advantages or results in the consolidation of an enormous amount of production and distribution in the seed and food supply into the big corporations. And this is a government policy. There is, I mean, to give you an advantage, you saw it many times during the financial crisis.
Starting point is 01:42:11 You know, we have people on credit cards who are, or even farmers financing their crops, borrowing at 5, 10, 15, 20, 30%, while, you know, the New York Fed member banks are borrowing money at 0%. Right. Right. I mean, you know if if you're competing in an auction
Starting point is 01:42:32 and a guy who's paying 0% for his capital and you're paying 5, 10, 15, 30, you know, whatever. I think the last. time I looked the average American credit card was 17%. And to give you the one of the ugliest examples, look at what we're charging students for their loans when the big banks are getting bailouts essentially for free and borrowing for next to nothing. So when we look at this, and I think that's incredible, is that because, is it that the, I mean,
Starting point is 01:43:03 do we have a nation now as far as the United States America is concerned that is really catering to lobbyists who are representing, you know, stockholders versus the actual on-the-ground worker? Or where is that pressure coming? Why is the government siding with sort of the insiders, as you'd say? So this is happening for many, many reasons. But one of the reasons it's happening is digital technology allows you to centralize control in multiple ways. And so the players who get good at the technology and sophisticated at the technology are moving at a much higher speed in the marketplace than those who don't. So part of this is really a digital technology game.
Starting point is 01:43:51 And as you consolidate capital into a big corporation, that corporation has the power to pay for lobbyists. It has the power to pay for all sorts of policies that lower its cost of capital by, you know, know, moving and playing offshore and creating long supply chains down into Latin America. You know, the list goes on and on. But the reality is that we've allowed, we've basically allowed Wall Street and Washington to continually centralize through criminal means. And so we have the U.S. federal government acting outside of the financial management laws for decades. and that is directly advantaged or related to the insider outsider game. So if you run the American government for many decades outside of the Constitution and you disobey the financial management laws,
Starting point is 01:44:51 you end up with enormous centralization of money and power. And when you say centralization, is that something that just centralize in America, we think about the Fed Bank? or are you looking at this as more of a globalist centralization that's taking place around the world? So this is happening globally, but let me just look, let me use an example of the last two years. And this is something you so many times and talked about many times. So we announced we have a pandemic and then we announce that the small businesses have to close, but the big businesses can stay open because they're essential.
Starting point is 01:45:36 So if you're an insider, your business is essential. And if you're outside, your business is not essential. And the way that's engineered, literally town by town, is suddenly all of my customers at a small business now have to go to the big business. And it helps drive the stock market up because that big business is a publicly traded business. And so you shut down 10 small businesses and everybody goes to Costco or Walmart or the large business, which is allowed to stay open. And all those businesses pick up dramatic amounts of market share overnight, thanks to government policy. There was, I don't know if you saw it, there's a wonderful argument between Rick Santilli and one of the hosts on his network,
Starting point is 01:46:26 where the host is trying to explain that it is science that 10 businesses have to shut down right next to ensuring the same parking lot with a large big box store which can stay open because the magic virus will not attack you in the big box store, but it will cause you to get sick in the small business. Right. So that's what we call disaster capitalism. It's economic warfare. And the government is engineering a takeover of the market share of the small business essentially for free rather than have to compete in the marketplace and win that business. Instead, you know, it's engineered by regulation.
Starting point is 01:47:09 I'll give you another perfect example. Congressman Massey is from Kentucky. Yeah. And he's worked for several years to get a bill passed called the Prime Act. Yeah. That would allow significantly more dispersion of, slaughter and meat processing. And this is incredible because if you if you look at what it takes for a small business to be profitable, one of the things that helps in the states where they've allowed farmers to process up to 20,000 chickens on their farm, in fact, they can be highly
Starting point is 01:47:44 profitable. I intend to see I lived next to a dairy farm that had to shut down because that basically the state and federal regulations made it possible to be economic. But if they were allowed to just sell directly to their neighbors and be lifted from an incredible amount of what is not necessary food safety regulations, they could be highly profitable. And think about it. So here I am in a state of Tennessee and I've got a significant number of the population. I think it's up to 25% on food stamps funded by taxpayers. And they're all going down to a big box store buying food that shipped in a tremendous amount of it
Starting point is 01:48:27 from 1,000 miles away. And yet there's tons of empty land. And there are a tremendous number of people who could be gardening and doing small farms that could sell directly to them. And in fact, in Tennessee, we've got a great state legislator, Frank Nicely, who's been working to do change the rules so that we can have much more foods sold locally, you know, person to person. Maine just passed a great new piece of legislation helping to facilitate the local markets.
Starting point is 01:49:01 So what you're saying, so to understand this in some ways, I mean, I grew up a liberal, progressive, environmentalist. I, you know, was always angry that, you know, regulatory agencies weren't being taken seriously. They're there to protect the people from poisoning of rivers, all those things. That was the culture with which I grew up in. But now I'm seeing things differently. It's almost like regulations as a weapon against the common worker and man. And so what you're basically saying is that the USDA is sort of forcing a third party to do the manufacturing.
Starting point is 01:49:37 I'm not allowed to kill and process my own chickens so I can sell it to my neighbors. I have to deliver them all to a plant that takes that. and is now regulated. And so I'm unable to be allowed. This is part of what Massey's talking about. I want to be allowed to deliver to my local consumers that are standing right there, standing in bread lines, food lines, and say, hey, I've got food right here. I can process for you.
Starting point is 01:50:01 But there's this regulation that in order to make sure it's safe, has got to go through some central plant that's being controlled. And those plants are burning down and being more, more limited, more controlled by the industry. You know, in theory, there's a great number of regulations that have initially been adopted that make sense and are theoretically very good. But that's only if you have a regulatory infrastructure who is committed to the fundamental purpose and allowed to implement that fundamental purpose of that regulation. So what I would submit, and if you come to Salary, I have a great online book called Dylan Reed in the Aristocracy of Stock Profits, where I sort of explain what happened. But a decision was made at the end of the budget sort of you had a huge budget war with people trying to get a financially responsible budget through the Congress in 1995.
Starting point is 01:50:56 That failed. And the decision was made subsequent to essentially give up on the U.S. governmental mechanism and engineer a financial coup d'etat. So I had one of the largest pension funds in the country say to me, they've given up on the country. moving all the money starting out in the fall. And literally what we saw was a process began where every year the government would report that literally trillions of dollars had gone missing. And this has happened year after year
Starting point is 01:51:29 from fiscal 1998 until 2015, when a series of policies got implemented that they just stopped reporting. And if you go to Salary, we have a whole website dedicated to this. It's called missingmoney.cellary.com. That's our homepage. You can link to missing money from the homepage.
Starting point is 01:51:49 And we've been able to document all of this. By 2017, we teamed up with a wonderful professor from Michigan State University, who did with his graduate students a complete survey. And as of 2015, 21 trillion was, we had 21 trillion of undocumented adjustments from the federal government. And at that point, Dell, there was $21 trillion in outstanding treasury debt on the books of the U.S. government. So think of it this way.
Starting point is 01:52:21 You know, people will tell you that the U.S. government is bankrupt. And what I tell you is not bankrupt at all. It's been robbed. Now, I look at that as a change of control. In other words, it's a coup by financial means. And what we saw the pandemic was an acceleration of the financial coup into a real coup d'état. And now what we're watching is a governmental entity, which is not implementing the law, as you and I know it. They're implementing a centralization of control.
Starting point is 01:52:54 Well, when I look at that, you know, one of the things that I like to do is sort of just, you know, pretend house shop. I'm always watching the value of my own house. You know, I moved to Austin at a good time. Austin was up and coming. I left California where things have always been very hard. high price, but I will tell you watching sort of the value of the house that I'm in right now, the way it is skyrocketing, I just keep thinking about that famous video by the World Economic Forum that states that everyone will rent, that that's the dream of the future, no one will
Starting point is 01:53:27 buy and will all be eating fake meat and all of these different things, but that part of everyone will rent. I've been calling friends of mine and saying, you know, watching this housing market, And I have some of my friends, even family members that are, you know, in tiny houses and, you know, really fulfilling this liberal dream. And I said, you know what, wherever you're at, I would say buy a piece of this earth however you can within this year. Because between inflation and everything else, it appears to me that the value of my house, no one's ever going to pay that for a ranch house, you know, sitting on a piece of land. It just doesn't, you know, we're looking at houses could end up being millions of dollars that were just two, three years ago, a few hundred thousand dollars. How does that, are we really being driven into a culture that's just going to be renting? So your house is not going up in value.
Starting point is 01:54:20 The value of the currency that you price your house in is going down in value. Okay. So inflation. Inflation is what we're seeing. What you're watching is debasement of the currency. But let me describe it. I'm going to grossly oversimplify. Let's pretend you have an island with two people on it and a central bank.
Starting point is 01:54:41 And the central bank prints money and gives it to one person. And then they print more money and they give it to the same person. And they print more money and same. So let's say they increase the money supply on the island from a million to 100 million, except every time they print a million, they only give it to one person, not the other. Okay. know at that point it's fair to say that the person with with let's say they now have 99.5 million they're going to run the price up of everything and they can buy out the other person
Starting point is 01:55:15 right right right so you're going to be you know what what we've seen and it's you know this has been going on for a long time and this inflation has built up tremendously over many decades is we've seen a completely insider-outider game where the insiders get tremendous benefits. So during 2008, if a farmer failed, he didn't get a bailout. The people who caused him to fail got the bail out and radically increase their market share, correct? And he went under. Right, right. And that's an insider- outsider game.
Starting point is 01:55:55 That has nothing to do with free markets. It has nothing to do with a bad business cycle. That's engineered. I mentioned to you the other day that Joel Dyer wrote, I think his name was Joel Dyer, a book called Harvest of Rage. And he had intended to talk about the militia movement. And what he discovered was that you had a group of remarkable farmers and ranchers who'd been pumped and dumped by a combination of USDA policies combined with the Volcker
Starting point is 01:56:26 dramatic increase in the interest rates. But they'd basically been pumped and dumped financially and destroyed. It was really an entrapment, at which point the FBI and the IRS moved in and moved against them, at which point they realized that they were the target of very significant and criminal economic warfare and started to organize the militias to defend themselves in very constitutionally legal ways. And Dyer explains, you know, once you get under all this Shrika, I call it the Shrika meter, you know, the spin on who and what they were, you realize what you've got is the backbone of America being eaten alive by very sophisticated financial games and organizing to try and do something about it. Is it, I mean, you know, we're dwelling here in the potential to always be called
Starting point is 01:57:24 conspiracy theorists. We have, you know, food shortages seems on the horizon. The ranchers being pressed. Fertilizer is not getting out. I mean, all this could be greed on one side, but strangely over 20, you know, packaging plants and middleman, you know, delivery plants burning down. And on top of this, I just keep looking at the World Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab bragging about this great future where there's going to be this great equalizing event and through this COVID pandemic and, you know, all of his cronies, whether it's Trudeau up in Canada, you know, or Biden here build back better. And yet the more we hear the hammer of building back better, the more that hammer seems to be building us a coffin.
Starting point is 01:58:13 And I'm wondering, is this, do you feel like, and I ask Chad, Chad this, is this an agenda? I mean, are we really under attack? Or is it just green? and sort of this random, you know, that the financial interest will always go for what they want and those of us in the outside are it's just sheer dumb luck or is there a concerted effort against us? So the leadership has made a command decision to use advanced technology developed over the last 50 years to dramatically consolidate control. So if you go back through history and you look, the single most profit business we've ever had as an investment was slavery. And if you look at what caused us to stop the African American slave trade,
Starting point is 01:59:03 one of the primary reasons was you couldn't perfect collateral. Now with digital technology, you can perfect collateral and with modern media and telecommunications, you can use perfected collateral in ways that allow you to dramatically influence what they think in their behavior. Okay? So technology is giving you the ability to to return to a form of governance structure where the few can control completely the many and do it in a way where the many don't even realize.
Starting point is 01:59:37 Now, if you look at all the struggles that the American leadership had with working with the mechanics of the federal government as it exists, they're trying to build and run a unipolar empire globally, with a domestic population that doesn't understand what the issues are and what they need to do. So here you've got this mechanism, which depends on the consensus of the people, but you're trying to run a global empire. And not only that, you know, the invisibility of your weapons, whether they're mind control technology or lasers or satellites from space, you know, they give you phenomenal power that goes to your head. You know, Leonard Cohen once said, we're blinded by the beauty of our weapons.
Starting point is 02:00:26 And so you have a group that's gotten, you know, they've gotten the bit in their teeth of what they can achieve globally. And they have no more tolerance to deal with the general population. Part of this is because you've had so much of the economy and operations, whether government or private, run behind secrecy. And you've literally ended up dividing as civilizations. And what we've watched is the civilization of the leadership has now completely broken away. When you're with them and you're talking with them, they don't even think of the general population as part of the same civilization. They have different laws. They have different, you know, they have a different culture.
Starting point is 02:01:14 They now have complete financial independence, they believe. And they have gotten the general population to go along with what they're doing to the extent that they've lost all respect for the general population. So there's a cycle of disrespect. And there are many people in the leadership who've wanted to do the right thing, but they can't break through this cycle of disrespect. And they can't, you know, Jeb Bush once said you cannot create a constituency for financial responsibility. And I want to second that, having been a federal regulator and dealt with very big money. in the government, you know, everybody comes to Washington and they want to get their check or they want to get their contract, they want to get their, you know, their new financial benefit. And the guy who hands it out to them is the guy who gets their vote and gets their support.
Starting point is 02:02:04 So, and there are many solutions to this, but the people who've decided to basically re-engineer the mechanism have decided central control works best for them. They've lost confidence in the general population. When we're looking at all of these strange anomalies happening all at the same time, food issues, gas prices, inflation, a war in Russia and Ukraine that sort of magically happens the moment the vaccine proves to be a complete failure and we're just about to have to tell you you're going to live with COVID and sorry we messed this up. Oh, there's a war. Everybody look over here. I've talked to other financial analysts that will say that Europe is banked. that they have spent all of the pension funds and the great reset is just a way of hiding the fact that they're going to quietly announce to you that you have no money you know the money you were counting on your retirement is not there and then strangely at the same time COVID seemed to attack that pension group right the the elderly now again I'm not I've never said on this show that I believe in depopulation but it's getting harder and harder the these things sort of line up so perfectly.
Starting point is 02:03:21 Okay, so we just have to stop with this conspiracy thing. Okay. I grew up as a conspiracy footchulture. Okay. All I did my whole career was engineered conspiracies. I was taught that the fundamental train tracks of reality of conspiracies, the way you build your future is one transaction at a time. And of course you always do it with a conspiracy. You keep, you know, you have to be discreet, you get together with the group of people.
Starting point is 02:03:47 So conspiring, you get together with small groups that make a decision. Small groups and you figure out what you want to do and you build forward. Okay, the whole world is run with conspiracies. Now, I always thought of conspiracies is wonderful things. They were fun to do. They were delicious. I was great at it. I loved money. You know, what's not to love about this? And when we end the Salary report, you know, I always say, don't ask if there's a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one.
Starting point is 02:04:14 Okay. And one of the things that absolutely stunned me when I got booted out of the out of the establishment you know I go out in the wilderness and and everybody's talking about conspiracies like they're terrible things I said are you crazy you know conspiracies are great you better get in the business of building because if you want to build a local food supply you know if you want to get together you're with your neighbors and do a food club if you want to finance a farmer you better get in the business of transacting your way into building the future you want because you're all
Starting point is 02:04:46 sitting here scared putting all your money into finance the national security state that's trying to kill you. Why are you financing the people who are killing you? Go feed the, you know, go finance the people who are who are feeding you. You know, give money to the sheriff who's running who's going to be honest, you know, invest in the local rancher farmer. Go buy some, I mean, there are thousands of ways to do this. But anyway, so my attitude is what I discovered was that someone had persuaded the general population to, to denigrate conspiracies because that would make them powerless. And then they wouldn't compete to buy and control the land or, you know, compete to buy and control the state legislators.
Starting point is 02:05:27 In other words, you know, this whole thing about conspiracies is getting us to resign for the game. So if you don't like Klaus Schwab's conspiracy, let's start a conspiracy and, you know, because I'll be blunt. That's what's hilarious, hilarious of conspiracy. And I'm proud of it because I'm a conspiracy footchelcher. That's what I've been my whole life. So, you know, let's get in the game. Because if you look at the conspiracies, they're engineering, you know, we're going to be eating insects while they enjoy owning.
Starting point is 02:06:00 Absolutely. You know, because I, the reason I left, I took one look at the plan, you know, the way they were going to offset all the inflation. Because what we've watched, Dell, since the strong dollar policy in the middle of the 90s is they've been printing massive amounts. of money and then engineer and deflation that would offset the inflation. And the pandemic was the one of the great last, you know, Fauci basically, you know, is rented deflation. He's like an deflation doll. You know, we need more deflation. Okay, change the restrictions and, you know, and shut down more. It's demand destruction. He's a demand destruction machine. That's what he does. It has nothing to do with health. It has
Starting point is 02:06:46 to do with shutting down demand and moving the market share into the insiders. Okay. So, so we've got to, when I took a look at what they were up to, I said, I hate their plan. It's not going to work. I want, I don't want to be in on the deal. So I'm going to go out in the wilderness and see if, you know, if, if a decentralized group of people can pull back power and decentralized power because the centralized thing, which depends on complete control, I mean, we're talking about returning of slavery. You know, and if you think it's a problem, they're going to take your house, wait, did they come in and take your kids?
Starting point is 02:07:23 Right. Okay. Yeah, so this is much darker than just take your house. So, so I said, complete control won't work. It's a terrible plan. We got to come up with plan B. How, and that's, how important are that case? That's what interests me.
Starting point is 02:07:40 So I want you to embrace your inner conspiracy. Okay. creation. I love that perspective. I mean, I haven't really heard it stated that way, and I get that. I guess in some ways, you know, the high wire and the informed consent action network is a conspiracy group. Then we're working to bring truth about against the media system that keeps saying we're the enemy. We are. We are the enemy to the lies being, you know, propagated by mainstream media. And we're using legal cases to make our point. But you just said something about the children, that your children being taken away. How, When you work in government, you worked under George Bush in urban development, how much are the children a focus of our government? I feel like in many ways, it's not until this vaccine issue that we started thinking, my God, like, why does Senator Richard Payne care what's happening inside my house with my kids? How much of a focus are our children?
Starting point is 02:08:38 As we think they're just worried about us, we're the taxpayers. Is government focused on our children? Or is that changing? I would say they're most focused on the children. So if you want to accelerate change, so if you want to move from a human civilization to transhumanism, the way to do it fast is not to wait for a generation to die. You get control of the children,
Starting point is 02:09:02 and you get them to embrace transhumanism and reject their parents. Now remember, because you're looking to steal all the retirement savings, or control it and engineer it in certain ways. When you do that, you want to be able to maintain the loyalty of the younger generation. I'll give you a perfect example. Okay. In 2017, I was invited to a conference
Starting point is 02:09:29 at the Aspen Institute in Colorado. And at one point, someone got up and made a presentation to the crowd, it was a cryptocurrency crowd, about how great it would be to destroy the US government and then take all the remaining assets and auction them off. So I stood up and I said, okay, if you come into any county in America, the 3,100 counties, what you'll discover
Starting point is 02:09:56 is that more than 50% of the people in that county depend on government checks, Social Security, their military pension, their federal government pension, all these different things. What you're gonna do is in one day you're gonna wipe out 50% of the income, and then you're going to wipe out within a week all the retail that depends on that income. So you're basically going to take 75% of the income in that county and wipe it out overnight,
Starting point is 02:10:25 which which point, you know, everybody's got maybe they got three weeks of cash, then three weeks of food, you know, and they can go without food and cash for three weeks and then they're all debt. You know, is that really what you want? And you had a group of people saying it's no problem, we're just going to get everybody on Bitcoin and everything will be fine. And they were enthusiastically embracing an abrogation of all the commitments to their parents and grandparents.
Starting point is 02:10:51 They said, how many people have grandparents who will go bankrupt when you do this? But they weren't making the intergenerational connection. And what you were seeing was a pitch that was designed to keep the young loyal and turn them against the other generation. So all part of a financial divide and conquer strategy. When we see all these conversations, and we just saw a huge,
Starting point is 02:11:12 issue in Florida with DeSantis, basically, you know, conversation, which seems like just a school issue, you know, up to third grade. We don't want them talking about sexual, you know, positions and choices up to third grade. Disney came out against it. DeSantis then, you know, launched, you know, really an investigation of Disney, at which point they sort of lost their, here we go, Ron DeSantis fires back and Disney will pay its fair share of taxes. I mean, we've all been watching this happen in the news. But how much of this, like you talk about children. Is the government, is this all a part of it? Like, you know, we see, it seems like the, and Virginia was a really good word, the governor said parents have no right to be discussing
Starting point is 02:11:52 the education of the children. Is this all a part of a concerted attempt to get involved, like, and vaccination, really, vaccine mandates say the parent has no choice here. We own your children, not the parents. So this is a migration of a model from a constitutional Republic to slavery where children are livestock. And you're free to experiment with them if you want to try prototype moving a man to a woman or a woman to a man. In other words, you're looking to literally assert control of them
Starting point is 02:12:33 as if they're livestock and use them in a variety of ways and ways which are not acceptable to parents or teachers. So, you know, when, I'll never forget, I had one wonderful subscriber from the Slayer report, send me a video of two mothers in California discussing their efforts to stop the sex education. And they very graphically showed the materials and describe what it happened to their kids. And what I will tell you, Dell, the only time I've ever seen that material before is when you're grooming children. to be sex slaves. Yeah. That's the only time I've ever seen that material before.
Starting point is 02:13:17 It's been really strange to watch, you know, Gen Saki in our government, literally crying over adults not being able to talk about sex with young children. It's totally bizarre. We could look, we could go on for days on sort of this mass degradation from so many different levels. But I think we're agreed, and I love the idea that there, not only other conspiracies, we should all be starting one. As you think of solutions, I mean, again, I started out the show. I truly believe we have the power. I believe that this, I don't care
Starting point is 02:13:52 what anyone says, you know, people will say to me, Del, you're just naive, you know, the vaccine pushers, this is this whole give up on COVID's just a farce. It's just to get us to believe baloney. There's no way they want to see Iowa polls showing that only 34% now believe in the childhood vaccine program. We have clearly shifted this conversation. We've used that sort of taekwondo, use their energy against them. It's working. They're going back to the drawing boards. So what are the ways, you know, when you think of solutions, what do we, is just a person sitting in our home?
Starting point is 02:14:26 What do we do to rein back power from those on the inside to get it back to the outsiders? So I'm with you. I think we can turn things. And the question is, how much pain do we? have to experience before we do. Yeah. You know, because part of this is building a critical mass of people in every community and county who are willing to act.
Starting point is 02:14:52 And there are thousands of things we can do as an individual, as a family, as a small, as neighbors, as a small community. And I think the most important thing I would encourage people to do is one, you know, one, I do believe and part of it is I'm a Christian, you know, that we have the victory, because they are few and we are many. But the other thing is, I really want to encourage you to think small and think about what you can do. So the first thing I used to encourage my clients to do when I was a investment advisor is sit down, you know, take out a piece of paper and do a time budget, do a sources and uses of time, and look at, you know, where you invest your time, and start to remove from that,
Starting point is 02:15:41 uses of time anything that's draining you or has you doing business or dealing with people who don't have integrity or your best interest at heart. So you know turn off your TV turn off you know let's say you can turn off your TV for and that gives you two hours so use that two hours and gang up with your neighbors start a conspiracy if you want and and and and use that time to get a decent sheriff elected or to find a good local bank where you and 10 of your neighbors and friends can start to get the kind of banking relationship that you deserve. So get the bad guys out of your balance sheet, get them out of your financial statements, get them
Starting point is 02:16:30 out of your head, get them out of your life. I know they know part of this because they're watching eye wire, but you know, I call it coming clean. If you come into Slear, we have a great article called coming clean and you can walk through the coming clean process, but get them out of your life, get technology under control, you know, because we're allowing very sophisticated and dangerous surveillance technology into our lives. And we need to do a much better job of handling that and protecting ourselves and our families from it. So we have another great piece that Cori Lynn wrote for us called Lucent Technology's grip. And so we'll put links. We have a little commentary that we made for this show and we'll put links to coming clean and loosen technology
Starting point is 02:17:14 script but but start to get the bad guys out of every aspect of your life and start to build that which is healthy the most important thing you have to do to do if you want to be financially secure is you have to build good health the number one thing that destroys people's health and people's time in America, you know one vaccine injury can cost a family one to five million dollars and destroy their time. I mean, just destroy their time. So first, you've got to get really savvy about managing your family's health and how you invest your money to stay healthy. And that means great food, fresh food, kind of food your prior guest, the rancher was talking about. And, and, you know, I'm in Europe right now and the Europeans spend more on food and less on health care on the back end because they're taking care.
Starting point is 02:18:11 Now, you know, one thing I, not everybody's a gardener, but remember in World War II, we had people start gardens crash course. And within two or three years, I think 40% of the fruits and vegetables were coming from just family gardens. You know, we can do that again. It's fun for a lot of people to grow food. And again, you can team up. I always encourage people to go find the local food chapter of Western Price Foundation. You know, find the local foodies because that's your constituency for freedom. So and interestingly enough, if you're going to do a local currency, and there are many great ways to start a local currency.
Starting point is 02:18:52 But if you're going to do a local currency, you got to have the local food thing working too. It's, it's this, you know, it's two sides of a coin. You have to have resiliency in your local food system if you want to be able to get a local currency growing. So there are many things you can do, but you have to organize them in a way that saves you time and gives you energy. And the more you get people who are driven out of your life, it's like, I don't know, I used to liken it to a tapeworm. We all have a tapeworm. We have a financial tapeworm. We have a political tapeworm.
Starting point is 02:19:26 If we're going to get the tapeworm out of our life, we need to detox the tapeworm. And part of that's financial, part of that's media. I will say this, America has great, particularly in the food area, they have great leaders. And the hardest thing for me when I was in Washington is to see people support the criminals and ignore the great leaders. Right. So I mentioned Congressman Massey. I have a senator in Tennessee. He's not my district, but I support him.
Starting point is 02:19:57 Senator Frank Nicely. Every state legislator has these great people who are supporting the Constitution, who are trying to protect your food supply. Will you please ignore the presidential election and support them? Support the people who are really in the trenches. You know, and I'm glad you put up the thing from DeSantis. DeSantis, I can't tell you what it's like to talk to a small business person from Florida. You mentioned DeSantis. They want to cry. They're so grateful. Same with South Dakota.
Starting point is 02:20:30 Yeah. So we have one of the things that happened during the pandemic, you started to see who's who. We have great leaders. If more and more people see us really gathering and supporting them, you know, because many people say I'm too busy to take action. I said you're not too busy to look around your community and find the city council member, or the activist or the civic leader or the senator, the state senator or the state, you know, house member who's really holding the line of protecting you and just support them. Yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 02:21:07 It's really, it's so, I mean, those are all really great points. And I love that, you know, we've all got to build a time budget, you know, get together and focus on where is our energy going. It's such a great place to start. And from that, I think we naturally, our intuition will guide us. Where we need to go. The greatest political tactic ever created was shunning. Shunning. Just start shunning the bad guys.
Starting point is 02:21:31 Yeah. Calling him out, shunning him. So, I mean, you know, if you've read Bobby Kennedy's book and you're not shunning Fauci and his group. Well, by the way, you know, it takes some time to get through Bobby Kennedy's book. So that's part of some of your time mapping. Shut off the TV and pick up that book. It's critical to you.
Starting point is 02:21:52 you understanding the world you live in. But I have to, I just have to tell you, I, the book came in a Friday. I started Saturday morning. I didn't have time to read a book. I didn't want to spend my Saturday off reading about Anthony Fauci. So I said, I'm just going to, I'm just going to read a chapter or two. Dell, I couldn't put it down the whole day. That was it.
Starting point is 02:22:15 It's fantastic. I wrote it over a weekend too. It's engaging. It's powerful. And boy, you really learned. some things, no matter where you think you're at on this, it was totally revealing. Catherine Austin Fitz, your amazing, cellary.com. Everyone definitely check that out.
Starting point is 02:22:33 If you forget the name of that, remember that always, if you're signed up to our newsletter, the highwire.com, all of these conversations and these links are available to you, so you don't even have to remember them. But you're doing such an amazing work. It's so great to have someone with that. As I said, Bird's Eye View. I look forward to having you back again. are incredible times, but I do believe there are solutions and certainly the work you're doing
Starting point is 02:22:58 is providing that. I'm a part of your conspiracy. We're conspiring, right? We're in Cairns. We're in Coying. Let's do it. Let's do it. All right, I'm so happy to be a part of your conspiracy group.
Starting point is 02:23:09 Take care, Catherine Austin Pitts. It's great talking to you. Thank you, Del. Have a great day. I will. Well, look, there's a lot to this. Catherine is talking about the solutions. I wanted to make sure that at the end of this show, because a lot of this was about food today.
Starting point is 02:23:22 A lot of concern about food supply. I think it's something to genuinely be concerned about. Just like Shad said, I'm not telling you to go rush out and buy, you know, 400 tons of toilet paper and, you know, canoli beans or whatever it is you want to do. But we do have to think ahead. And, you know, we've talked about the food forest, which is one of the ways that we discussed how to grow food in your own space. We'll probably even revisit that.
Starting point is 02:23:46 But food is going to be a conversation we're going to be having here. But when we're on that conversation, there is. a there's a great website and a farmer out there that is made a way for us to find that farm. This farm match.com when you're trying to figure out how do I find my local farm, how do I even begin that process? I've never stepped foot on a farm. All those questions come up. I'm joined right now by Max Kane who has put this website together. Max, first of all, thank you for joining me. I appreciate you taking the time. Yeah, thanks for having me, Dahl.
Starting point is 02:24:22 So tell me about farm match. How does this work and sort of how did you come up with the idea? Well, farm match is basically, as Catherine might call, a food conspiracy, right? It's a way we're taking back the responsibility of feeding ourselves. And what it is, it's connecting people with local farmers in their area. And if we don't have, you go to the home page and put in your zip code. if we don't have a local farmer in your area on the site right now, at least we have a farm that will ship to you from a little bit farther away. But what we're trying to do is create a secure food system where people have a direct connection with their food so that during the next manufactured crisis, whether that's a pandemic or whatever it is, that people don't have to go to the grocery store and not be able to get food because food isn't like entertainment.
Starting point is 02:25:14 Food is essential to life. It's something we need. And I think Joseph Stalin showed the world what happens when the government is in total control of the food system. How are you choosing the farms that get involved in farm match? Are there certain things that they have to do or agreed to? I mean, is it just any old farms, some giant corporate farm? No, no, no, no, interesting about giant farms. But where I live in Viral, Wisconsin, interesting enough, one of the big dairy, 2,000-count dairy, just on a side tangent, burned down last night, 2,000-counted.
Starting point is 02:25:47 on dairy in Hillsborough, Wisconsin. I was driving past it. But getting back to the question, how we choose farms, we only work with small to mid-size regenerative farms that aren't spraying chemicals on the ground or on the animals that aren't injecting the animals with chemicals and different antibiotics and things like that. So we work with farms that are raising animals in a healthy, non-chemical way
Starting point is 02:26:12 so that it can support human health. Fantastic. So, and I would imagine that this is such a great resource, not just for the consumer, but for those farmers. As we were talking, you know, earlier to Shad the rancher, he's talking about how developing these local communities and that we've got to diversify the distribution of food supplies. And Catherine Austin Fitz said we're bottlenecked at these sort of USDA, like this control over a very small group of distribution. and packing companies, you know, creating this other avenue in many ways. If we get involved as consumers, we help build that new way forward for the American farmer and rancher. Do we not? Yeah, absolutely. And right now in Pennsylvania, there's an Amish farmer's name is Amos Miller.
Starting point is 02:27:03 I've been a food activist for 17 years into trenches. I've been to a lot of court rallies where the government is telling farmers that they can't sell food to their neighbors. It's happening right now in Pennsylvania where Amos Miller. has, you know, plenty of customers. He's been in business for decades. And now the government is saying, well, you can't process meat on the farm. You have to send it to this big USDA processing facility to make the price go up because
Starting point is 02:27:26 they know how to, because they know how to produce healthy food and we don't. So that's something Thomas Massey is looking on fighting with the, the Prime Act. I spoke with Massey at a couple rallies recently. I was texting with him the other day. He might come to my event in June on the 15th, 16th and 17th, and Vro. And yeah, but that's what it's all about. It's just basically getting food back and getting in control of our food system so that regardless of what crisis is going on in the world, we can feed ourselves.
Starting point is 02:27:57 And it's something that's really important. When the pandemic started, all the farmers that I knew Dell, all of them saw there in the grocery stores are empty, they saw their sales just like skyrocketing up because at that point people realized that they can't depend on this insecurity. food system with these long supply chains. In fact, if you had a goal of creating an insecure food system, you would come up with long supply chains. You would come up, you would come up with uninformed food eaters. The USDA allows food to be produced and some ingredients aren't even put on the label.
Starting point is 02:28:32 And then in addition to that, you would make it illegal for you to get buy food from a local farm. So if you were trying to create an insecure food system, this government, boy, they did a good. Great job. Their perfect job. They have exceeded all expectations. All right, well, look, the website is farmmatch.com. Oh, I think we just, I heard we just crashed your website. So if you're going to come on to the high wire with a very active group of people,
Starting point is 02:29:03 you're going to have to prepare to be slammed. So everybody hang out, I'm sure they will get that up and running. So maybe in an hour or two is your time. I think this is such a huge thing you can do. farmmatch.com. And of course, you're having that event, Max's party. And this is something, you know, I'm excited. I'm going to be one of the speakers.
Starting point is 02:29:22 There's Max Cain's Farm Food and Health Freedom Party, June 15, 16, and 17th on your beautiful farm in Wisconsin. I'm looking forward to that event. I really appreciate what you're bringing to this conversation. And I do, look, this is the community we have to build now. And it's a beautiful thing. This isn't a moment to panic. This is a moment to celebrate that we're just being forced to create the option.
Starting point is 02:29:44 we should have been using all along and supporting our local farmers and getting the best food possible. So thank you for sort of making that so easy for those of us that maybe haven't quite, you know, mapped out or, you know, our time correctly, as it were. That's right. People are going to get there. It's just a matter of, it's a matter of self-preservation. People will eventually start waking up and saying, hey, I got to connect with a local farmer. It's just, there's almost not a way to stop it. All right. Is there a way if someone is a rancher or a farmer or they know somebody that may want to be a part of this process? I imagine that that website is a way to get to you and sort of get added into this group.
Starting point is 02:30:25 Yeah, yeah. If you're a rancher or farmer and you want to develop a local following of food eaters that you can provide food to and create that local food community, reach out to us at farmats.com. We will help connect you with local food eaters in your area. You know, Do, we spend $1.8 trillion, this is a T, trillion dollars a year on food, just in the 50 states, 1.8 trillion. If you take dollar bills and you stack them up, that's going to create a stack of dollar bills 17 times the diameter of planet Earth. So if we just take our food dollars and like every time you spend a dollar, you're voting, you know. Yeah. If we just take our food dollars or ballots, you know, here's a $5 ballot.
Starting point is 02:31:07 And we direct those toward the small-scale farmers, regenerative farms in our local area. Wow, what a better world we're going to have. Fantastic. All right, Max Cain, thank you for your work. I'll see you and just over a month now on your farm. Anyone wants to join that. That information will be on our website as well as yours. Take care and thank you for all your work.
Starting point is 02:31:27 And thank you for a solution today. I really appreciate that. You're welcome, Del. Thank you for having me on. Have a great rest of your Thursday. All right, take care. This is an issue that's really important to me. said I'm getting involved and I'm working with an organic farm in my area so excited to know where
Starting point is 02:31:43 the meat that my family is going to eat is coming from so I'm going to be doing a lot of events I'm doing Max Cane's events I'm also going to be up in Virginia at polyface farms if you want to check out extraordinary in the ordinary Joel Salinger if you don't know who he is I mean Saladin he's doing so Salatin is doing so much great work one of the sort of pioneers of regenerative farming there Sally Fallon. So that's going to be a great event. All of these things are so important. Again, we are here on the high wire really attempting to sort of dive into places that have not always been natural to us. I mean, we like to talk about pharmaceutical companies and drugs, but all of this, our food supply is critical. Remember that the informed consent action
Starting point is 02:32:30 network. Our mission statement from the beginning is dedicated to ending manmade disease. We want to eradicate manmade disease. And as Catherine Austin Fitz put it so perfectly, you know, your greatest financial issue in your future, your stability is based on your health. Taking care of your health is the most important part of balancing your family's life budget. And so I love her idea of budgeting your energy. Forget about just these green dollars and the people. paper in your wallet or the plastic in your wallet. We've got to start seeing life as energy, that energy flow that is, you know, going to the places. Where is it focusing? Is it focusing on negative energy? Am I funding and giving my life blood and being life sucked by people that
Starting point is 02:33:17 don't care about me or even worse or working against me? Or as Catherine Austin Fitz said, trying to kill me? Or am I going to work with people that are trying to fortify me? It's so much of why I say be a part of supporting the high wire because that's an energy flow you create an energy for those that care about you we care about you here this is what this is about it I I had a great scientist reaching out to be about a story we'll be doing the future saying I've watched you Dell and the one difference I really truly believe I can say now is you seem to care about people and the rest of it doesn't matter it really is true we stand by the work we do ever this team this international team I work with cares about you because we
Starting point is 02:33:58 We care about ourselves and we care about our children and we care about our future. And it's so interesting as I sit in this moment and I think about how it's always been political. I grew up a progressive liberal. We were the ones eating organic food and worried about like what was, you know, how the government was affecting our vitamin supply. And, you know, and getting involved with our local organic farmers. And now as a Democrat as I used to be, that's the party now that believes in censorship that is screaming and yelling that, Elon Musk making Twitter free is going to be the end of the world. As we know what we must censor, Obama deciding to censor, he's saying we got to get out there.
Starting point is 02:34:36 We've got to control the narrative in the world. I don't know what's happening. And then that same party is now supporting Bill Gates as an environmentalist. Are you kidding me? A man is buying up all of our farmland to make us eat fake meat. That's our future. I'm going to be eating synthetic, chemically processed, lab manufactured food. That's the future of being an environmental.
Starting point is 02:34:58 and blocking out the sun so that we stop global warming. Definitely let's go against nature and take nature over and atomized crap in the air and genetically modified mosquitoes, all of this while and then crushing the rancher and crushing the farmer because they're the problem. Yeah, those guys that are out there on horseback, you know, raising cattle and real food, eating real grain and grass that goes into our bodies, the way we've lived since the dawn of man. That's the end of the world as we know it.
Starting point is 02:35:25 I don't know what's happening. I love the fact that, you know, I used to think it was like conservatives and liberals, and now so many of you conservatives and Shad out there, you're the ones that are working with us to build regenerative farming. I mean, this idea of regenerative farming that doesn't hurt the planet and being conservationist and getting in touch with our local farmer, I don't care. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican or a libertarian, we're all members of the same family of humanity. And we would recognize that if we did that first step that Catherine Austin Fitz said. Take that two hours of television, get mad as hell so you're not going to take it anymore, and throw the freaking television out the window. The only media you need is here once a week, two or three or five or six hours,
Starting point is 02:36:13 whatever it takes us to get the story across to you. This is the truth. This is all you need. We'll make sure you're on top of what's happening in the world. The rest of it is killing you. It's there to kill you. We're here to save you. We're saving ourselves.
Starting point is 02:36:29 I love you. And I'll see you next week. Love, love, love. The only thing you can mandate is love. Love, love. The only thing you can mandate is love. Love, love. You can mandate is love.
Starting point is 02:37:03 Sing it with us. Love. The only thing you can mandate is love. Now break it down. You don't get to tell me what to put into my body. The only thing you can mandate is love. You don't get to tell me if I'm safe, insane or healthy. The only thing you can mandate is love.
Starting point is 02:37:57 Only thing is gone blind. You don't get to tell me what to put into my body. The only thing you can mandate is love Don't get to tell me if I'm safe, insane or healthy The only thing you can mandate is love Come on everybody That's it You can mandate is love
Starting point is 02:39:40 You can mandate Everybody thanks for being freedom fighters We'll see you later Keep being courageous, bye

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