The Highwire with Del Bigtree - FUNNY BUSINESS

Episode Date: March 11, 2023

The Fight Against HPV Mandates in CA; UK’s Hancock Caught Red-Handed; Dutch Farmers Step Up The Fight; Congressional Oversight Committee Questions COVID Vaccine Origins, Redfield Lets Loose on Fauci...; Movie Star / Comedian Talks Surviving Cancel Culture, Doing What’s Right; Russell Brand Lights Things Up on Late NightGuests: Michael Baum, Esq., Rob SchneiderBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:49 Good afternoon. Good evening. Wherever you are out there in the world, it's time for us all to step out onto the high wire. I've an absolute huge bucket list level show going on today. Later on the show, sit down with actor, comedian Rob Schneider, activist, a brilliant guy. Can't wait to talk to him about all that he's up to now. And then we're going to get into the bombshells that are dropping in the congressional hearings up in Washington, D.C. and after that Matt Hancock, health minister out there in the UK, his own internal messages
Starting point is 00:01:26 have been leaked and you will not believe what's being discovered there. Hopefully that will lead to some arrests if anybody has a brain over there in the UK. But first, once again, California is finding itself under attack from the vaccine lords. This is what that looks like. Should middle schoolers be required to get the HPV vaccine in order to go to school? A California bill has been introduced in Sacramento to require students entering eighth grade to get the HPV vaccine. This proposed legislation would require all incoming eighth graders in California's public and private schools to get the HPV vaccine. More than 42 million people have HPV and every year another 14 million Americans or so pick up the virus.
Starting point is 00:02:09 So getting vaccinated early enough to prevent infection is key. The HPV vaccine has been on the market since 2006 when the FDA, approved it as a way to prevent cervical cancer in women, but it also benefits men in the prevention of penile cancer. Assembly member Cecilia Aguilar Curry, who proposed this new bill, points out because this vaccine would be administered years after kids get their MMR shots, they can determine if they have any adverse reaction. Parents and vaccine vulnerable children have plenty of time to take advantage of the medical exemption that is in the bill. This vaccine has been around since 2006, and
Starting point is 00:02:48 many hundreds of millions of doses have been given and there are no appreciable side effects. People keep saying, well, it's just a woman's issue. No, it's not just a woman's issue. It's a people issue. And I have a philosophy is that anything I can do to prevent cancer, I'm going to do that. If it's a decision of a poke in your arm versus a future risk of cancer, it's like actually one of the easier vaccines to recommend. I've said it so many times. The most powerful lobby in Washington is the pharmaceutical lobby. I don't believe any of these decisions are ever made about children's health or people's health. This is just about the bottom line.
Starting point is 00:03:29 We should have seen this company when this headline came out last year. Basically, Merck is nearing completion of a one billion guardisole manufacturing push. It's a 2023 doubling of production. Where are you going to go with that doubling of production on a population that's already been being injected with this for many, many years? Well, obviously, you've got to force it onto those that have decided that they don't want. This is what that bill actually looks like CA bill would mandate HBV vaccine for all students entering eighth grade. The entrance is in eighth grade. Obviously, it's going after all teenagers to hope to get it there.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Assembly bill number 6.59. I want to say, you know, and here's the co-authors that all signed on to this bill. I'm not sure if they're all brain dead or if they're bought or maybe they just think they're doing the right thing. that would take further investigation, which I haven't had the time to do, but I will say this, to all of those that have signed on this bill. No one has been more involved in a deep investigation of the safety of vaccines. And of all the vaccines prior to COVID, I believe the Gardasil HPV vaccine is the most dangerous vaccine that had ever been made, certainly the most dangerous that's anywhere near the childhood schedule. And so many issues around that. A great
Starting point is 00:04:43 book was written, HPV-Gardosil vaccine on trial. which everyone should read. A brilliant book by Mary Holland, Kim Mack Rosenberg, and Eileen Roryo. It's just, you got to do your own investigations on this, folks. If you find your teenagers in harms, you know, being offered this, I really wanted to do your investigation because when I was traveling with the documentary backs,
Starting point is 00:05:06 which catapulted me into the middle of this conversation, some of the most horrific interviews we did were of those parents whose children had received this back. vaccine that is supposed to stop cervical cancer, now penile cancer. There's absolutely no evidence at all that that has ever achieved that. The trials never proved that. But besides the fact, these parents were telling us stories of their children being paralyzed by the vaccine. One terrible story, remember, the daughter had died after getting the HPV vaccine. But what was so weird about, I don't know what the science behind her, if there is any science, but every time I heard the story,
Starting point is 00:05:44 they would talk about how their child was a star athlete, star soccer player, star track athletes, star softball player, and then all of their dreams were wiped out by one single vaccine. There is a story that we were doing and covering while we're on tour with Vaxed that really changed my life forever. For those of you that maybe haven't seen all that we've done, this may be a first. But this is the story of Colton. I just want to share this one interview we did with him because I think it says it all. Take a look at this.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Colton was a 13-year-old healthy, strong boy. He loved anything that has to do with an adrenaline rush. Motorcross was his passion. We went to the doctor's office and the doctor says, hey, he's the age that you should get the HPV vaccine. I said, okay. So he was administered the vaccine. And on the third round, two weeks after, he started having a really bad neckache. And then this is the last day he got to ride that big boy bike.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And that day he came home, he was hell, starting to feel nauseous, really sore neck. It didn't feel good. He went to bed and the next day I checked on him. He still didn't want to get out of bed. I just thought, man, you're just really weak and exhausted. And that evening, when he sat up to take a drink of water, he said, Mom, can you give that to me in my left hand? I can't use my right arm very good.
Starting point is 00:07:28 It's weak. And he tried to lift up. And all of a sudden, he just flopped back. And his head just hit the pillow. And I went, the Colton, are you going paralyzed? They immediately took him down to primary children. Hospital in Salt Lake. When the doctor came out and asked me questions, they said, well, has he been sick? Has he had any changes or any kind? I said, no, he hasn't been sick.
Starting point is 00:07:57 He had the HPV vaccine on February 1st and they went, oh, well, we'll be reporting that to Vars and they did. I did do a lot of sports, my favorite. Now I have this on side-bying. Just watch everybody. I'm angry that they're still giving out the vaccine. They don't care that people are getting hurt. Mm-hmm. It's a joke.
Starting point is 00:08:26 You've got to do your research. Like, you can't just trust a doctor anymore. I remember when I was standing right there watching my co-producer, Polly Tommy, conduct that interview. And thinking to myself, as I was watching this machine on the side of him breathing through the tube that was pierced through his throat and thinking how often I'm told that vaccinations got rid of the iron lung. And I was standing, I said, we didn't get rid of the iron lung. We just made it smaller.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And now thousands of people are wearing these across America, many of whom have been injured by vaccines. You know, this is just a horrible story. But it wasn't, Colton wasn't the only one. He will be missed. He ended up taking his life because of the difficulties of his life and what he thought it was doing for his family. It's just a really heartbreaking story. But he's not alone. I'm telling you thousands of these people across America have gone through this and around
Starting point is 00:09:28 the world. Many of those that were in the trials for Gardasil haven't been treated properly and been injured and not being listened to. There was even an incredible story out of Columbia where hundreds of girls got the vaccine in the same town all ended up having massive side effects and paralysis and they ruled that they were all, the all hundreds of them were just suffering a mass psychosis event. It had something to do with all of them just panicking together. It's this level of insanity that demands the most thorough investigations, the most powerful lawsuits there are. And so the irony of the same moment
Starting point is 00:10:07 that this terrible, terrible vaccine, they're going to attempt to mandate it in California, one of the most important lawsuits of all times in this vaccine space is taking place. In fact, it's going into discovery, which is something that some people said would never happen when it came to the vaccine issue because of the protections of the 1986 vaccine injury compensation program. The law firm involved in this lawsuit, Wisner Baum, has a historic record of being one of the most powerful environmental attorneys, legal firms. They brought us the Monsanto case, the multi-billion dollar Monsanto case. They've proven that that causes non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Brett Wisner has been on our show talking about it.
Starting point is 00:10:53 So it's an absolute honor to get to talk to these guys. I'm being joined right now by Michael Baum of Wisner and Baum, an illustrious career working for the best interests of humanity, fighting industries when they were destroying the lives of people. people. I think more successful than almost any other law firm out there. Of course, he's worked directly with our good friend Robert Kennedy Jr. and is so in this case against the HPV vaccine. Now, Michael, I want to thank you for taking the time to join us today. You're very welcome, Dale. Good to see again. Good to see you too. So my first question is how did this
Starting point is 00:11:37 case get to this point? I mean, one of the issues has been because of the 1986 Act, the protections on the manufacturers, we have never been able to get a vaccine onto trial where we could actually get into discovery and start demanding that type of information we get on the other drug cases. When we look at Monsanto or we look at Vioxx, we're able to find out that they always knew there was side effects, but they hid it from the public. How is it that this got outside of that 1986 protection? Well, there actually is a fairly not well-known provision in the act that says that you're required to go through the vaccine court program, but if you stay in it for 240 days or you get a decision
Starting point is 00:12:25 that you're not satisfied with, you can opt out of the program and file a civil suit. And almost nobody knew that. I certainly didn't know that. Wow. Most people are under the impression, most lawyers are under the impression that there's an absolute immunity that prevents discovery and lawsuits from going forward. However, what we discovered and have been exercising is filing suits in the vaccine program. If the vaccine program makes a decision, gives someone a result that they're happy with, and they settle out. But if they get one they're not happy with, they're permitted to go and file a lawsuit in civil court, which we've done so far for around 85 people now that are filed in either state or federal court around the country.
Starting point is 00:13:19 We have about another 195 of their in the program, another 80 that have finished their 240 days, if that being in the program, if they end for 240 days, and there's not a decision adjudicating what their case is worth, according to the program, they're allowed to opt out. So we've got 115 that are in going through the process, 80 that are out getting about to be filed in the federal court system, where they've been consolidated in Charlotte, North Carolina. and we have about 85 presently filed.
Starting point is 00:14:05 There are an unfortunate thing is that there's very limited statute of limitations for filing cases in the vaccine program. And it's ostensibly runs from three years from the date that the injuries start the injury symptoms began. Okay. And whether or not you're a minor, I mean, which is, you know, a lot of the people that are vaccinated are kids. And so there ought to be some sort of provision to allow a statute of limitations to it prior when they're adults. Especially when in the case of this injury, doctors are gaslighting, for the most part, these parents, when they, you know, if they ask the question, is it possible? As in the story we just showed Colton, you tell the mother, you know, you know, what happened? They got the vaccine and said, oh, it wouldn't be the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:15:02 So so many of these parents tell this story being lied to for years until they finally come around to the conclusion because they meet enough specialists. And now it's too late for them to be in court. And then when we think about, when you think about pushing a bill like this, there shouldn't be one Colton out there. There shouldn't be one child whose life is completely destroyed. And you've already listed, you know, nearly 200 that are just have somehow gotten to this gauntlet, somehow got to the truth, we're able to get their story forward on time. And yet this vaccine, what other product out there is allowed to injure and destroy hundreds of lives?
Starting point is 00:15:40 And you know, that's just a tiny percentage of those that actually happened to that continue to sell and profit and have our government mandate them. So there's like 2,000 more individuals that we would like to proceed with who have, they found out too late. Wow. And we think it's unfair that they found out too late. So we want to litigate that as well because it's just, you're right. They got gaslit by physicians, some of whom were just, in my opinion, deceived by the company.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I agree. The CDC about the safety and efficacy. Oh, there's no adverse event. So we've got this guy, for instance, Dr. Jacob Lalazar, who was one of the guys that ran one of the clinical trials up in the San Francisco area for Gardasil. And he says with this HPV vaccine, there is no legitimate debate. There are no side effects. There's no toxicity. And it's now shown unequivocally to prevent infections and cancer.
Starting point is 00:16:40 So there's no reason why every young person shouldn't get this vaccine. If that's the message is being conveyed, that is gaslighting because every single one of those facts stated are false. It is there's like, what, 64,000 adverse events. Until COVID vaccine, it had more adverse events reported against Gardasil than all other vaccines in the history of the vaccine adverse event reporting system. Wow. We found, and the work that we have found, we've found already 600 more conditions like pots-like conditions and neurological, autoimmune neurological conditions, like Coltons in our database, and that's, we're just beginning. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:34 And if you look at the thing called the disproportionate reporting ratio, you look at how Gardsol compares to all other vaccines over time. There's like 20 times more pots conditions, postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, which means that when you stand up, you faint.
Starting point is 00:17:57 and have a lot of it's an autoimmune condition has large effects across the body people end up kids athletic kids end up wheelchair bound one of the mechanisms of action for that occurring is called damage associated molecular pattern when you get cells damaged they release toxins and athletes happen to be have their immune systems activated in a way that means that they're sort of hyper-stimulated because they're banging around and that that was one as I said that was one of the things that I didn't know there was any science behind it but it was the story I kept hearing which is that it's the athletic kids the ones that were like really really athletic I was just like
Starting point is 00:18:51 As a journalist, you just start saying, man, there's a repetition of the type of story that I'm hearing here. Really quickly, I want to point out that your law firm actually put forward a letter to all the legislators in California, telling them that you have this case going on, expressing how many brilliant lawyers are working on it, the level of science that you're working with. I like this just quote that was in the middle of it. We provide this information not to toot our own horns, but to illustrate the caliber of the lawyers conducting this litigation and so that the Assembly will appreciate that such lawyers will have done their due diligence concerning Gardasil's risks and benefits. Whether the company failed to warn
Starting point is 00:19:30 about the known risks and whether the company committed fraud in its conduct and reporting of its Gardasil studies. We have extensively studied the literature, engaged scientists from some of the top universities in the nation, including Stanford, Columbia, and Johns Hopkins and have amassed millions of pages of internal Merck documents that not even the FDA gets to see. This is, you know, it's an important warning. And by the way, lawyers, especially law firms as large as yours, don't tend to just waste your time. Do you? I mean, you have to make sure that there's a case there.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah, we have to make sure there's a case there. And it was through things like Mary Holland and Eileen Iroo and Kim McRosenberg's book, HBV vaccine on trial. they did a great job of documenting a lot of the problems with the clinical trials and the adverse events that were being showing up after the vaccine got approved. You know, one of the points you're making this, well, hold on, one of the points you're making the letter, and I think you're about to get this anyway, is this idea to say, well, we've reduced cancers. When we've looked at the evidence from, with our science team, we don't see any drive. and cervical cancer whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:20:50 In some cases, when you look at it, it looks like it's rising. This is from the CDC folks. This is after the great introduction of the Gardasil vaccine. We see no, I mean, do you see anything? There it is. I mean, it's up and down. In fact, those last sort of several years, it's gone up.
Starting point is 00:21:06 So the idea that the introduction of this vaccine had any effect, when we look at the trials themselves, they didn't actually prove that they could stop cervical cancer, did they? No, they were testing whether they stopped cervical cancer. stop cervical lesions, which are abnormal displacements, abnormal cell formations on the cervix. And most of those resolve, over 90% self-resolved. And the way the clinical trials were designed, where they were designed to see,
Starting point is 00:21:34 well, do these, does the vaccine stop lesions associated with these particular strains of HPV that are in the vaccine? And so there's a whole bunch of layers of misinformation in there. Number one, there's a couple hundred strains of HPV. Right. The vaccines only address a handful of them. Seven of them in the Garstle Nine are related to oncogenic related lesions. But the vaccine actually just creates antibodies against those seven strains.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And so if there are other HPV strains in the environment that a person get exposed to, it'll progress anyway. And if the person that's been vaccinated thinks that they're now invulnerable to HPV infection because they've been vaccinated, they may not do the precautionary things like getting pap smears, which pap smears have virtually eliminated cervical cancer in the developed nations, Wherever there is a pap smear program, cervical cancer is on a big decline, 80% decline, just tremendous decline. And among older people who have not been vaccinated, that decline continues. Among younger people who have been vaccinated, it's starting to tick up. And that's partly because, I think, that the kids, when they get vaccinated, they're told,
Starting point is 00:23:12 oh, this is preventing cancer. You don't, you're not going to get HP and PV infections. They don't get the concept. They are not advised well that it is only preventing infection amongst a particular strain. And there's a condition called type replacement. Other HPV strains come in and proliferate in the same tissue and develop the same problems.
Starting point is 00:23:40 But they are not being determined. by PAP smear because the kids are not thinking that they have a risk. I remember we we had an interview with a world renowned gynecologist Dr. Lee and he said to us, you know, this was never a necessary vaccine because PAP smears, if you catch these lesions, when they appear, if you're getting, you know, doing your annual checkups, you know, with your gynecologist, if it gets severe, they cut them out, there's no problem. He said literally, if you get cervical cancer under regular gynecological care is grounds for malpractice. That is how easy it is to stop this. This vaccine, my understanding,
Starting point is 00:24:19 was really made, and Mary Holland gets into this in the book with Kim Mack Rosenberg, but this vaccine was made for the third world that don't have pap smears, don't have doctors, they aren't getting care all the time, and whether or not it's even good for them, you know, is a different conversation. But it really was just a financial decision to bring it to America. We didn't need it. We had the care. And now this vaccine, as you're pointing out, could really risk children, you know, and teenagers continuing that care because now they can be promiscuous they think. Now they can go out. I'm totally covered. And it's just not the case.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Do you, you know, when we look at these injuries, we look at what's going on, and you said in that letter, we are seeing things that not in the FDA is seeing. What do you feel like, you know, and we're going into discovery. And when I look at that book, you know, so much of what we know, but some of it, we need proof of it. What do you think is, you know, what's going to happen with this case? And how important is it when it comes to this vaccination? And how dumb would it be for legislators to push the vaccine right at the moment where a legal case by the same team that just won against Monsanto? Can you imagine having pushed Roundup as a mandated product on all, you know, crops just a year? before, you know, at that point, I think it was Baumheadland, but now Wisner Baum had the case.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I mean, when you sent this letter, what is it you're trying to get through to legislators in California right now? We want them to know that the vaccine does, is toxic, and particularly for certain individuals, it causes devastating injuries that are debilitating, that it's designed is actually to cause an extremely exaggerated immune response that in some people results in debilitating immune autoimmune conditions. It is one of the most toxic vaccines in the history of vaccines. It has more adverse events, more serious adverse events than all other vaccines combined up until the COVID vaccines. So it's a false idea that it's, say,
Starting point is 00:26:37 and it's a false idea that it's affected, that the idea that it's a cancer prevention vaccine is untrue because it never was tested on cancer provision, prevention. It was only tested on whether it prevents abnormal cell formation, cervical lesions. And because it, most of those resolve either on their own or with a treatment through post pap smear treatments, it's not a condition that requires a vaccine to prevent most of the problems.
Starting point is 00:27:23 It's not the type of thing you want to be mandating when there is the highest number of adverse events, the highest number of serious adverse events, and you have debilitary debilitating event things occurring where kids become former athletes become wheelchair bound. It cannot be in light, have to wear headphones because sound is so intense and are shaking. And it's just, it's horrific. And for legislators and physicians to be running around saying it's not toxic, it is completely safe and it prevents cancer, those things are untrue. And it's a misconception that is being fed to them.
Starting point is 00:28:08 And some people are feeding for the purpose of making that vaccine be more used, more money for work to be made, more money for physicians who have these completed vaccine programs. They have, you know, there's, it's not appropriate for a vaccine of this. this sort to be mandated. And the way this act is designed, there's no out. I mean, they're saying, you know, you saw that, you know, someone has one of the sponsors saying, oh, well, you know, you can get you a medical exemption because you've had plenty of time to determine that with the MMR. Well, the MMR is a different vaccine, number one. Right. I mean, the idea that if you've been injured by some other vaccine, then that would be the only reason you might have an reaction to this. I'll also point out in our research, we have an aluminum load.
Starting point is 00:29:04 and an aluminum product inside of here that's never been tested, has been hidden really from proper investigation. Hopefully you're going to get to the bottom of that. Michael, I just want to say that, you know, clearly this case is one of the most important of all times, especially in this vaccine space. This is one of the most popular new vaccines that was created. It doesn't achieve, just like COVID vaccine, does not achieve what they state it does, does cause injury.
Starting point is 00:29:32 We just showed the open bears while you were speaking there, which shows tens of thousands of reports of injuries there. You talked about the thousands that would like to be a part of this case that can't, and yet they will tell us there's no proof that we have any issue whatsoever. I want to thank you for your time and know you're really busy. Just your last thoughts because, you know, people will say, you know, well, Michael, I mean, there are parents out there that are going to be listening to you right now, and they might not get this guard and still vaccine because of what you're saying. You're still in the middle of the case. How do you talk about this with your friends if they ask you about their teenagers? And what would you say?
Starting point is 00:30:11 I'd say, do not have them get the Gardasil vaccine? The adverse event database for vaccines shows a very high level for adverse events themselves. The one I was getting rid of, one of the scariest ones is it comes. causes premature ovarian failure. A study just came out that it was like a hundred times greater rate of premature ovarian failure reports for girls given guardisle. Yeah. And compared to all other vaccines over all time.
Starting point is 00:30:49 And that's the Tatang study, T-A-T-A-N-G. That ought to spook the hell out of any mother or parent, father, of a girl getting a vaccine because it can result in premature ovarian failure for a disease that may not occur until they're 55 or 60 and it'll be prevented by doing regular pap smears it's it's it's mind-boggling that anyone would consider it to be a safe and effective thing to do uh i if someone really wants it i mean there's i'm not saying to ban it yeah uh but i am saying that they ought to know what the actual risks are and they ought to know what sort of people ought not to be taking it. There are risk factors that are for some people, it is really a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:31:40 If like you've got already a hyperstimulated immune system, so high-impact athletes, allergies, a recent infection, don't be, especially don't get it if you have a current HPV infection. Right. There are studies that show that there's elevated cancer rates after injecting someone with an active HPV infection. They don't screen those people out. They don't screen out the allergies. They don't screen out people that are having damage associated molecular patterns. That's from the injuries. They don't screen those out and those people are extreme risk because the whole way Gartisle works,
Starting point is 00:32:28 through that aluminum adjuvant. It's considered the most immunogenic adjuvant, which is something to boost the immune response. It's so strong of a immune booster that it overwhelms the immune, the vaccinated person's immune system's ability to tell the difference between self and non-self. That's immune tolerance.
Starting point is 00:32:57 that gets overwhelmed and the people who have the most risk of that don't get screened out and that's dangerous. Absolutely. It's a subtle thing. You take your healthy kid and think you go, well, this is not going to be a problem. Well, if that is a healthy kid as an athlete's got some damage associated molecular proteins floating around and you can boost the immune system with this adjuvant that's like 100 times more immunogenic than the actual HPV virus live, that overwhelms an immune system's ability to tell
Starting point is 00:33:35 the difference to itself and non-self. When that happens, you get autoimmune diseases. And autoimmune diseases in the brain, in the heart, in the nervous system, result in debilitating permanent conditions that you do not want to have your child go through. Absolutely. Michael bomb, thank you for fighting for America's children once again. You've been doing it. You know, really your whole career. We're excited to have you and we're excited that you've moved into a space that we were told we would never get to. So best of luck to you. We'll continue to spread the word. And is there anything, can people get involved? Can they help in any way? Is there anything that you need from our audience right now? Well, one message is, is that if you have a child that's
Starting point is 00:34:23 got received guardisole and is experiencing symptoms that they're you're concerned about like we've been talking about these autoimmune conditions hurry up and get it to a lawyer who will get that case into the vaccine program before the statute of limitation expires okay it's a it's a gnarly one and a lot of people don't know that they need to get in three years from the date that the symptoms started we're trying to fix that but until that's fixed uh need to get in so they can contact our law firm. We're connected with some of the vaccine program lawyers. There's the Lanier law firm, Morgan and Morgan, Drew Downing, Andrew Downing. What are the, you know, there's all the some of the biggest there are, as you said in your letters.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Yeah. There's some great lawyers out there that are very willing to help and help get this, get you into the program, get you through that program and able to file a lawsuit if needed. Very important. Michael Baum, thank you for taking the time to sort of illuminate all these important issues and best of luck. We'll stay in touch. Yeah, happy to talk. All right, great. Take care. You know, I mean, it's so important. I'm telling you, I have seen too many lives destroyed by this one. You really need to get on top. And I'll just say this. Look, in the end, it just comes down to your own research. If you give this vaccine to your child and you did not at least take the step to read the book, HBV vaccine. on trial, then the guilt will be yours. I mean, you had an opportunity. You have right now. And for those of you out there, I would buy that book for your friends. If they have teenagers, try to get them to do some investigation before they get into it. Because eventually, I think this lawsuit is going to prove what we've always known. Maybe this time we'll shut down Merck for good. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:12 They're still good at making billions even when they destroy countless lives. At the heart of this, though, as he said, are some of the best lawyers in the world and one of the best lawyers that has been involved in Monsanto case is right in the middle of this very Gardasil case is one of the greatest leaders and friends of this movement. I'm talking about Robert Kennedy Jr. I'm not sure if you saw the news this week, but it's pretty incredible. This was reported out of New Hampshire just at the end of last week. Take a look at this.
Starting point is 00:36:44 It's been a long time since the Kennedy name was associated with a long shot outsider presidential campaign. But those days could be making a comeback. On Friday, Robert Kennedy Jr., speaking at St. Anselm College, was asked if he's considering a run for the White House in 2024. I'm thinking about it. You know, I'm past the biggest hurdle, which is that my wife has green lighted it. In a one-on-one interview, Kennedy told us he would not be deterred if President Joe Biden seeks a second term and that he'd run on progressive campaign issues. On the rigging of the system, the war against America's middle class. But one issue puts Kennedy out of step with the Democratic Party. For years, he's been a leader
Starting point is 00:37:37 in the vaccine resistance movement. And all of these injuries that I speak about to children, there is no bigger issue for our country than that. What would you say to someone who is skeptical about you based on your vaccine activism, that they disagree with you. They might agree with you on everything else, but they disagree with how you've handed yourself there. Show me where I got it wrong. Let's talk about it. If he runs, RFK Jr. also must contend with a tragic family legacy, the assassinations of his uncle and his father, who was murdered on the presidential campaign trail in 1968. Do you have to worry about your own safety if you do launch a campaign?
Starting point is 00:38:13 I'm not worried about my safety. One question for Kennedy, if he runs, is whether his last name still holds the political power. once did. The Kennedy name has gusto. There's no question above that. How far does it take him? That's a different story. I mean, I don't know about you, but I never thought I'd see moments like this. I mean, look, I don't know what Robert Kennedy Jr. is going to do. But when I hear the things that he said, when we know he's already said publicly, and you see headlines like this. And then you realize on the other side of the aisle is similar human being. And Ron DeSantis, who's been standing in Florida, actively speaking out against the COVID vaccine.
Starting point is 00:38:52 the lockdowns similar headlines will ronda santas run for president 2024 folks if you have any question that the climate around the conversation one of which is the heart of the work that we do here the high wire that it's not shifting can you imagine if in both parties and i don't care who you're with i'm just talking about our issue right here we may actually have two candidates carrying that message forward and demanding that the media cover it very very exciting times you know i don't know what Robert Kennedy Jr. is going to do, but if you want to sort of track his conversations, maybe pest for him a little bit, here is, you can check out to substack, Robert kennedy Jr. dot substack.com, and he's pretty active on Twitter, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:39:38 You know, just an amazing moment. You know, who knows what's going to happen. But, boy, there's a lot of hope when you start realizing the potential for politicians to start really covering this issue. about to get into some more politicians that aren't backing away from the truth. It's time for it at the Jackson Report. All right, Jeffrey. It's a lot of amazing stuff going down. And so much of it, oddly, you know, is political. I mean, it's so weird when we got into this issue that, you know, it just seems like
Starting point is 00:40:19 why is a health, why is health, you know, getting polarized politically? But as we look at it, they're really taking sides. And it's a very odd debate to be watching. happen around the world it is and del for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction and the pendulum swung so hard over these last three years mandated vaccines force masking essentially liberty killing lockdowns and it's swinging hard back the other way so get ready you know we've had the fouchy files we've had that we've covered you know for years on this show some of it actually we received through our FOIA request at i can inform consent action network we've had the twitter files who matt taibi
Starting point is 00:40:59 was he just got done test testifying in front of Congress talking about what he found. And he's calling it a censorship industrial complex. DoD, CIA, FBI, nearly every agency was sending spreadsheets to Twitter to censor people. And now we have coming out of the UK, the biggest story there, not really getting a lot of play here in the United States, but the lockdown files. And this centers around Matt Hancock. He was the former UK health secretary. And he gave his information. his his WhatsApp Twitter accounts is all his messages and he wanted to have a memoir written about him
Starting point is 00:41:36 a COVID pandemic memoir about how he you know rose to the challenge and really help save the UK and he gave this to a woman to write signed a contract with her her name is Isabella Oakshot and she took this and she was reading through it and she goes wait a minute there's some really disturbing things in these WhatsApp messages I think it's actually in the best interest of the country to release these, break the contract, and let the freedom speak. And let the truth speak. So this is what started it off. So thank you to the journalists that have been out there of these last three years that have
Starting point is 00:42:09 been really just breaking these stories and the lawyers as well for getting the FOIA requests and normal citizens. And this is Isabella's Twitter page on February 28th. She gave these all to the Telegraph. That's the paper out of the UK. She says the lockdown files at Telegraph is the biggest leak of data involving the government since the 2009 MP's expenses scandal, shedding new light on issues, including care home deaths, lockdowns, testing, school closures, face masks.
Starting point is 00:42:32 We all deserve to know. And Dell, you know, looking at that list, we were really, really interested. So, again, this is a little different than the Fauci files where you could just freely search this, anybody in the public. This was kind of being gate kept by the telegraph, and they're just pumping out article after article as they've looked through these, you know, 100,000 plus messages. So this is the headline here if you want to go to the telegraphs, page and check it out. And let's just go through some of the revelations here. So we talked about
Starting point is 00:42:59 fear. Fear was used so many times during this pandemic. And here's the first one. Authors discuss when to deploy new variant, Project Fear. And so this is Matt Hancock talking to his media advisor, Damon Poole. And they're talking about basically trying to scare the pants off the public. And let's look at, let's go right into these messages. This is going to be a kind of a theme of this segment going from the headline to the messages. Let's see what they say. So Damon Poole says this. Rather than doing too much forward signaling, we can roll pitch with the new strain. Again, Damon Poole, not a doctor, not a scientist, is advising. He's telling Matt Hancock how to do this, not asking him, telling him.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Matt Hancock says, we frighten the pants off everyone with the new strain. And Damon Poole says, yep, that's what will get proper behavior change. Matt Hancock says, when do we deploy the new variant? And then Damon Poole starts to really strategize this. He says, been thinking more about this and think we need to be more cautious, the strain, that is, I think you made the point earlier, but we need to keep schools off paperwork and agenda. Yeah, I think that means keeps schools closed. And Matt Hancock says, yes.
Starting point is 00:44:02 And then Damon Poole says something really interesting. He says, worth doing a bit about no leaking at the top, I think. Big risk with the variant. That's a new variant they're about to release. He says, right-wing papers go for a renewed push for the let it rip on the basis the vaccine strategy is undermined. Matt Hancock says, that's why we reassure on the vaccine. So this media advisor is saying, yeah, let's scare the fans off. people with this new with this new variant but you know people are going to going to say the vaccines
Starting point is 00:44:28 didn't work because now new variants are coming and this let it rip that's that's kind of internal censorship code word for the great barrington declaration you know that was right almost signed by a million people now jabad acharya martin cordoff at all and simply put protect the elderly those at high risk and it was a very specific group of people as i say i didn't use the let it rip i said let's go out and catch this cold from everybody that was healthy, you didn't have any comorbidities, you know, under the age of, you know, 60, you really were going to fare well and we could get to herd immunity. So is that idea that they're obviously saying, well, that's going to say that the vaccine, if we talk about the variant, the vaccine, they're going to say it isn't working.
Starting point is 00:45:09 But just to be clear, when they're saying, let's release the new variants, some people might be thinking they're like actually going to like release another lab created variant. Is that the sense you get? or they just say we know there's another variant out there, let's release the press around it. I mean, just I want to make sure we're not misleading people. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. It does read like that. The sense I got in also researching this is the data monitoring from the WHO
Starting point is 00:45:34 and everybody else that was giving them input, and suggested there is a new variant. The problem was they need to politicize it. When's the best time for the greatest amount of impact to let the public know about this? So, you know, all these messages are really shorthand. So you've got to read a couple times to really understand what they're talking about.
Starting point is 00:45:50 But so in that Let It Rip was like a limited hangout. None of the authors of the Great Barrier Declaration said anything about let it rip. They've never used those words. That was used as credit them. So they're actually going back and forth with misinformation in their text messages. So a day after that text message exchange between a media advisor, Matt Hancock, Matt Hancock goes in front of the press and says this. Over the last few days, thanks to our world-class genomic capability in the UK, we have identified a new variant of correct. coronavirus, which may be associated with the faster spread in the southeast of England.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Initial analysis suggests that this variant is growing faster than the existing variants. And the latest clinical advice is that it's highly unlikely that this mutation would fail to respond to a vaccine, but it shows we've got to be vigilant and follow the rules, and everyone needs to take personal responsibility not to spread this virus. I mean, there he went. Scared the pants up, but was the goal. you know mission accomplished and scared the pants off of everybody delivered in a dire consequences you know the type of tone and behind the scenes it's all just you know theater absolutely you know it's spreading fast the vaccine there's no evidence the vaccine doesn't work so check
Starting point is 00:47:07 that one too we got we got a call on the vaccine on there so now let's talk about lockdowns so these messages talk about how they kind of worked to behind the scenes for the lockdown vote And there was a tier system. So they were, when the full lockdowns were coming to an end, there was going to be a vote. And well, instead of just releasing everybody, we're going to have a tier system, tier one, tier two, tier three. And we're going to have this thing, you know, the highest tier will be full lockdown again. And then, you know, various levels of that, but all pretty much, you know, restrictions on life
Starting point is 00:47:39 and liberty at that point, you know, social gatherings, things like that, masking. And so there was obviously a very important vote coming. And we have this from the telegraph. It says how off the boil MPs who criticized lockdowns were placed on a secret red list. So to really frame this story and get some impact on it, I want to bring attention to a member of parliament. His name is James Daly. And James Daly is really interested. His focus is on kids, kids with disabilities, getting them back in school.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And, you know, sometime before this vote to have this tier system come in, James Daly said this in parliament. Take a listen. Okay. On National Teaching Assistance Day, will the Prime Minister join me in thanking teachers, teaching assistants, and all support staff for the extraordinary work they're undertaking to bring our children back to schools, colleges and nurseries in COVID-secure environments throughout Barry, Ram's Bottom and Tottington? And will he update the House on implementation of the National Tutoring Programme, as many of the most vulnerable and disadvantaged children in my seat need this help at the earliest opportunity? So he talks about the disadvantaged children, a tutoring program, getting the kids back. To get them all back into school, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Yeah. And he was behind something called this learning disability hub, too. He wanted to get kids with the disabilities, you know, really help them out with this. So now we go back to the WhatsApp messages with Matt Hancock. And he's talking to a special advisor, a parliamentary special advisor for the Department of Health. His name is Alan Nixon. And Alan Nixon. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:49:10 He's like 13 years old. This is, this is made. making decisions for the world. You got a kid with acne making the decisions for you. Right. So he says this to Matt Hancock. Again, not suggesting, kind of telling. He says, I think we need to dangle our top ass over some of these 2019 intake MPs
Starting point is 00:49:30 who are going off the boil this coming week, meaning this coming week for the vote. Thoughts on me suggesting to Chief Spads that they give us a list of the 2019 intakes thinking of rebelling, meaning not voting against this. E.G. For example, James, remember James Daily. just some. James wants his learning disability hub and bury. Oh, that terrible person. He says, whips, call him up and say health team want to work with him to deliver this, but they'll be off the table if he rebels. We're talking about blackmail, Dell. Wow. Clean, black and white,
Starting point is 00:50:01 simple blackmail here. He says, these guys' reelection hinges on us in a lot of instances, and we know what they want. We should seriously consider using it. IMO, again, using blackmail. Matt Hancock says, we shouldn't do that no he says yes 100 percent not 99 100 and so in the article i mean it's just stunning revelations we're just getting started here so he says this in the article they write mr nixon said mr hancock a spreadsheet from the whips office so we got a spreadsheet with the names of 95 tory MPs who had reservations about the tiers policy of whom 57 were rated red meaning they were hardliners the tories are like conservatives here in the u.s and you can see the tele the tele the tele the actually posted that spreadsheet. So you can go to that article and read the spreadsheet,
Starting point is 00:50:47 read the comments about them. And what's interesting is we have this time capsule now. And there was some good happening during the pandemic. People talking about, I'm not voting for this because if they're using the words economic harms, there's no cost benefit analysis done. When I look at that list, I try to imagine if here in the United States of America, as I watch Jim Jordan, who's going to be coming up here in a minute and Massey and Ron Johnson and, you know, these people, if our government, if Tony Fauci, which he probably does have a list, right? This is, you have to imagine, but can you imagine that these guys found out they were on a list and being targeted that certain things they cared about would be taken away if they didn't vote
Starting point is 00:51:27 correctly? I mean, this, I hope this is blowing up the government in the UK because here, I think it would be nuclear. I'm no lawyer, but it seems like there's a lot of evidence here. So days before the vote, Matt Hancock is actually. asking Mr. Nixon for the names in a frantic way. He says this in his messages. He said, can you resend me the list? Just need to call. So he's saying, give me the list of the names. I need to call these people. I'm going to call them directly. And Nixon, two minutes later, says, yes, no problem. This starts firing off names. Boom, boom, boom. So here we have Matt Hancock calling these people personally. I wonder what was discussed on those conversations. My gosh.
Starting point is 00:52:05 And as history shows, the tier system was approved. Here's the headline from that time. and 55 Tories rebel is COVID-tier system approved in commons. I wonder what happened to those 55 Tories. Interesting to keep an eye on them to see if they're the things they want that are important to them, kind of fall to the wayside because they didn't vote properly. But now we move on to something else. We're talking about lack of liberty, the lockdowns. And in the UK, they actually had some pretty hard quarantines.
Starting point is 00:52:30 They actually had quarantine hotels. This was a B-roll of quarantine hotel at Heathrow Airport. People would land. They couldn't leave. You see that fence there. and there's this chain link fence that people can't get past. A journalist tried to talk to them and they were ushered away by guards or something. I don't know what was going on there.
Starting point is 00:52:47 But these are the people that would land from like red listed countries and they'd have to do these quarantines. They couldn't get out unless they had two positive COVID, two negative COVID tests. And we know all those false positives that were thrown up during that time were giving people a huge problem. They couldn't get out of these quarantine hotels. But then let's talk about what was like in there. This was a headline from the time during those quarantine hotels. My Heathrow quarantine Hotel Hell, tiny rooms, root staff, and cold curries. And so what was the government doing at that time?
Starting point is 00:53:18 Oh, man. Can't have your cold curry during the long time. No. No, what out of here? So was the government really trying to help these people, trying to really get through these quarantines? This is what the telegram had to say about this. It says how those in government gloated as travelers went through distress of the hotel.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Back to the WhatsApp messages. This should be a common theme at this point. Matt Hancock says this on February 5th of 2021. We are giving big families all the sweets and putting pop stars in box rooms. And then Simon Case, he's a permanent secretary at number 10 Downing Street. He said, I just want to see some of the faces of people coming off the first class and into a premier in shoebox. He just wants to see their faces. How funny that must be.
Starting point is 00:54:03 And then Simon Case the next day says, any idea how many people we locked up in the hotels yesterday? Matt Hancock said none. But 149 chose to enter the country and are now in quarantine hotels due to their own free will, explanation mark. Simon Case, hilarious. This guy thinks funny. I mean, Dell, this is psychopathic behavior at this point. Wow. I mean, this is not even.
Starting point is 00:54:25 So fast forwarding now, did it even help? Did locking down, you know, besides getting laughed at by your government, did even help? We have this headline here. Quarantine hotels. UK authorities don't know how many cases they prevented despite 400 million pounds spent. And that's where we're at with that. That story, just the bookend there, we don't even know if it helped these lockdowns. And it made a lot of people very uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:54:51 They spent a lot of money because they had people had to pay out of their own pocket to go in these quarantine hotels, two or three thousand pounds. Just to imagine, like when you think about the importance of a republic like we have, here in the United States of America and having a government for the people by the people that is trying to, you know, take our freedoms away and get in control of our liberty. When you see the power that these little health ministers and everything, and the Fauci's all had, you have to imagine it was no different here. We were having the same experience here.
Starting point is 00:55:22 But, you know, they're laughing at us. They're giggling about taking first-class travelers and sticking them into a shoebox. I mean, these are psychopaths and sure they want more power. God, you know, God help us if we're stupid enough to give them a single inch more. If anything, it's really time to get back and put them on the leash. They're the ones that should be on the leash, not us. And these messages center obviously around Matt Hancock because they're his messages. However, understand, it's not about one person.
Starting point is 00:55:56 It's about the structural format of the government and how it performed during this. And this is, you know, it's a testament to why government should never have this. again. Now, let's go to testing. So we talked about that Matt Hancock had this great 100,000 tests a day, basically a goal. Matt Hancock's targets of 100,000 coronavirus tests a day. So this was this big thing. This is this big move. He was really grandstanding on this. And during that time, he was given all the large care homes, gave him messages, sent letters to his office and said, look, you got to be really careful. You have to test all these people coming in these care homes because this stuff spreads like wildfire here. Remember, we remember Cuomo in
Starting point is 00:56:36 New York, same situation there. He just packing the nursing homes, wasn't testing people coming from hospitals. And so this is the headline here. Matt Hancock was worried. And by the way, Cuomo had to hide, he had to hide his death rate, which is what really got him into trouble. He took the default out, which was some form of sexual harassment. That was the easier way out than what was really at his doorstep, which is you murdered elderly and then hit it from the world. I mean, let's not forget that happened. Okay. Correct. So similarly in the UK. Similarly in the UK. So Matt Hancock was warned, says the headline of COVID care home risk in March of 2020. So at that same time, let's look at the conversations he was having. So again, the lockdown files, we go back to those headline Matt Hancock
Starting point is 00:57:17 rejected expert advice on care home testing what's that message is reveal. And we go into those. And on April of 2020, remember he was warned in March of 2020. You really got to be careful of these care homes in April of 2020 he says fine tell me if I'm wrong but I would rather leave it out and just commit to test and isolate all going into care from hospital I don't I do not think the community commitment adds anything and it monies the waters have that for a Q&A response so he's saying yeah if you're coming from the hospital cool but if you're coming from the community or off the street you just let these people go pack the nursing homes it's fine and we now know that that's where a lot of that transmission happened from off the streets so he goes on to say this now remember
Starting point is 00:57:56 he has this testing goal he's this big thing someone named civil servant says asymptomatic testing sub is reading top recommendation is that you agree to prioritize testing of asymptomatic staff and residents and care homes where an outbreak has been recorded within the past 14 days not you know if that's not happening don't prioritize it no big deal we estimate this will result in 60,000 tests being carried out across 2,000 care homes in the next 10 days man hancock says this is okay so long it doesn't not it does not get in the way of actually fulfilling the capacity and testing so he's basically saying this is fine but i have this goal I'm grandstanding on this goal politically.
Starting point is 00:58:31 So as long as that pesky care home testing doesn't get in the way of my testing goal that I put out to the public. Protecting people. Just make sure my goal is protected. Exactly. I mean, politicized to the core, to the core on this one. And what's that message leak? Lockdown files won't be complete without some vaccine messages, some good old fashion vaccine stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:53 So let's talk about this. Before we talk about that, though, the end of the care home fiasco led to the this. This is the, you know, it was kind of a really sad headline. More care home residents died of COVID and second wave than first in England and Wales. You were talking like over 40,000 people. It's, it's, it's, it's, so his lack of concern about the care homes ultimately he had the same brilliant achievement as Cuomo. You murdered innocent, elderly all across the country. It appears so. And now, so he did, you know, beyond these, these media advisors and these, these kids, basically, these young kids that are advising him, we,
Starting point is 00:59:29 did have Chris Whitty in there. He's the chief medical officer for England at the time. And he said this, this is the headline, COVID not deadly enough to fast track vaccines. Chris Whitty advised, advised ministers. So he was basically saying, he said like 1% at the time. He said, look, for a disease of about 1%, let's say, you know, it's really not worth fast tracking these vaccines and not doing the proper safety studies. Now, 1%. So let's see. And again, this isn't to give credit, give credit where credits do, but we know how history showed. It was a group government decision. So Chris Whittie was even off at 1%. So we look at John Eunitis. He's the preeminent epidemiologist. He's done amazing work during this pandemic. And he has this, a paper, the updated paper,
Starting point is 01:00:16 age stratified infection, fatality rate of COVID-19 in the non-elderly population. And he says, remember 1% where they were talking about behind the scenes. He says across 31 systemically identified national zero prevalence studies in the pre-vaccination era, the median infection fatality rate of COVID-19 was estimated to be 0.034% for people aged 0 to 59 years and people 0.095% for those age 0 to 69 years. So not even close to 1%. And that was Chris Whittie's advice. If it's 1%, we shouldn't fast track the vaccines and skip safety testing. It was way below that. So another X mark for Matt Hancock's record here, not good. And so did he listen to his vaccine czar? This is a woman named Kate Bingham. And she was interviewed in 2020 by the Financial Times.
Starting point is 01:01:07 And this was the interview, if you want to take a look at this. This is actually, you know, in light of the whole thing, kind of a funny thing. Less than half UK population to receive coronavirus vaccine says task force head. And she says the Financial Times, Kate Bingham told the Financial Times that vaccinating everyone in the country was not going to happen, adding, just need to vaccinate everyone at risk. She goes on to say people keep talking about time to vaccinate the whole population. But that is misguided, as you said. There's going to be no vaccination of people under 18. It's an adult-only vaccine for people over 50 focusing on health care workers and care homeworkers and the vulnerable. So, I mean, you know, you look back at the pandemic, that's about
Starting point is 01:01:43 as close to a middle of the road statement as you're going to get. It was science based at the time. If you take, you know, the science TM, that was what it showed, what we were shown. So let's look at the WhatsApp messages. And let's see what Matt Hancock had to say about that. So here's Damon Pool, again, media advisor. He sends Matt Hancock the link of this Financial Times article. And he says, this is unhelpful. And funny, Matt Hancock, with all the finance and the UK government at his disposal says, I don't have a subscription to the Financial Times. But is this Kate? And Damon Pool says, yes. And Matt Hancock says, if so, we absolutely need number 10 to sit on her hard, whatever that means. She has view and a wacky way of expressing them and is totally unreliable.
Starting point is 01:02:28 She regards anything that isn't her idea as political interference. Matt Damon Poole says, yep, I had a blazing row with her when I was at number 10. I'll speak with them. It's not her call and it is deeply unhelpful. And for those in America or around the world where number 10 doesn't make sense, that's essentially the prime minister they're talking about, right? Get the prime minister to sit on her. And at that point would have been what, Boris Johnson, I suppose? Yes, correct. Yeah. And so that's what's going on there. Anybody that expressed anything that wasn't full vaccination for the entire population all the time, day and night, you're going to get number 10 to sit on you. It's very unhelpful. You're wacky. This is crazy. You're done. Forget about it. Even if you come to him with science like Chris Whitty did and said, we shouldn't skip these vaccines trials. But another thing that was used against people like that, whether it was in these messages or publicly, was this moniker of hard right or far right.
Starting point is 01:03:22 And it's in the U.S. It's also in the U.K. And people opposing the lockdowns in the government were labeled as that. So this is the headline here. Toxic culture of fear meant lockdown skepticism was dismissed as hard right paranoia. So now we move over to the United States. That's the same essential label that was put on people at CNN if they wanted to look into the lab leak. So this was CNN, ex-CNN boss now, Jeff Zucker, told staff not to probe lab leak theory
Starting point is 01:03:51 because it was a Trump talking point. Boy, were they wrong. Wow. My gosh. So we have this thing now. There's these levels of ways that the censorship has happening. Right now, we have the FTC is demanding the names of the journalists who were given access to the Twitter files, and we know how that works. But we have a lack of trust in these agencies. This was a new study, a new poll that was put out. Trust in U.S. federal state and local public health agencies during COVID-19. Responses in policy implications. And this was one of the graphs. This was made by Axios during the reporting. And they said they looked at the CDC. The major reasons why Americans say they lack trust in the CDC for accurate COVID-19 information, Dell, 74%, this is the highest I've ever seen,
Starting point is 01:04:37 said political influence on recommendations and policies is why they don't trust the CDC. 73% said, I don't trust the CDC because they've given too many conflicting recommendations. And 60% say private sector influence a la Big Pharma on recommendations. and policies. Wow. I mean, overwhelming. This is just overwhelming. Well, and the right. I mean, it shows you that's that's the wake up call right there. We are waking up to what's actually going on here because they've just gone way too far. And they have. And what happens when they go way too far? They double down. And this is a concerning thing I'm seeing. Heads up if you're in Washington State because this is kind of the next movement on the attack of free speech and the First Amendment. So in 2022, there was a study that was commissioned by the Attorney General's office in Washington,
Starting point is 01:05:21 Washington State. This was a study on domestic terrorism. Remember those words? They keep coming up and they're coming up for a reason. The report says this. The report's top line. It's number one recommendation urges the legislator to create a new commission on domestic violent extremism. That's right here in America, composed of diverse stakeholders with the goal, the broad goal of establishing a comprehensive public health and community-based framework for responding to DVE. Well, just a year later, right now, 2023, that bill is being created. And it can be voted on right now. So call your representatives and really make your voice heard on this bill. Here's the headline that's reporting on this. And thank God people are. Critics warn Washington extremism
Starting point is 01:06:04 bill targets free speech. And this article says, HB-1333 creates a domestic violent extremism commission to develop ways to combat disinformation and misinformation. Here we go. Though the two words are not defined in the bill. Also not defined is the term domestic violent extremism. So it's a blank check and they can go after anybody they want. And that's what this bill looks like is trying to do. Wow. Very, very scary. Imagine Matt Hancock with the power to call you a terrorist if you were going against and we're speaking the truth. Amazing. Absolutely. Absolutely. And so one of the bright moments here, Del at the high wire is last week we reported on, well, as the rest of the world was reporting on the Department of Energy, the FBI saying there is a probability that the lab leak
Starting point is 01:06:51 origin is something that is true. There is a possibility that COVID did come from an accidental lab leak. There was a sub-story there at the time, and we ran with that story. And this was a story about Jeremy Farrar, the head of the welcome trust, Dr. Jeremy Farrar, and how his names ended up in emails with America's top officials. Here's a look back at some of that reporting from last week. Okay. We see Jeremy Farrar take a quarterback position at this point in these emails. So he takes this just a couple days later, February 2nd, and Farrar emails the head of NIH, Francis Collins, and Tony Fauci on this email. So these big hitters here, and he says on a spectrum, if zero is natural and 100 is released, I am honestly 50. My guess is that this will remain gray unless there is
Starting point is 01:07:36 access to Wuhan Lab, and I suspect that is unlikely. But gray from a respected group, under the umbrella of let's say the WHO would in itself help so farrar here is already lobbying to get this conversation with this group they have couched in the w h o to help the conversation we're going to see what help means from farrar yeah i remember i mean everyone else was just saying oh china we got to blame china and you and i got together like wait a minute there's a much more important player here jeremy farrar who's now the head of the w h o orchestrated the entire cover-up of of the lab leak, you know, conversation and made it all about natural origin in the face of other great scientists saying otherwise. So a huge player.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Yep. Huge player. And until last week, you know, Jeremy Farrar's name was really not too much on the minds or the tongues of our government or people seeking actual true facts or justice here. And then three days after that report we filed on Thursday, we had this update, leaders of the Congressional Select Subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic put forward this. update and they said in there section three uncredited involvement of dr jeremy farrar there he is in black and white says the evidence available to the select subcommittee suggests that dr farrar the former director of the welcome trust and current chief scientists at the world health organization was more involved in drafting
Starting point is 01:08:59 and publication of proximal origins than previously known he says dr farrar led the drafting process and made at least one uncredited direct edit to proximal origin and then we have headlines let me just take a moment here Jeffrey. I mean, well, you know, I know we have headlines on this, but folks, you know, whether or not we actually have affected those that are doing this investigation. We know we have before. We put our information out. We're in conversations with lots of these people. And so a lot of times I talk about all of our legal cases. We talk about how great the reporting here is. Nobody else was covering Jeremy Farrar until we did last week. And now they're grilling people on Capitol Hill about Jeremy Farrar as they should.
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Starting point is 01:11:19 and then type in the word donate, and we'll send you a link right now. You're paying more for Fox and MSNBC that have all been lying to you. How about you fund those that are actually bringing the truth and now bringing the truth to power? Huge reporting, and it was really awesome to see this, Jeffrey. I knew we had to jump on it. And this is the fastest we've ever sort of seen them pick it up inside the Capitol.
Starting point is 01:11:44 All right, continue on. Yeah, it sure was. And so just a couple days after that committee's the congressional committee report that I just read from, we have the Daily Mail exclusive. They write this. So now it's in the headlines. Experts call for lab leak denying Dr. Jeremy Farrar to be fired from new posts as World Health Organization's chief scientists after he censored debate about COVID origin.
Starting point is 01:12:06 So, I mean, big, big push here from the public, from experts, from our Congress. And that brings us to our next story, which just happened, the select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic, the same people that put forward that letter just had a hearing. And they brought forward in that hearing, Dr. Robert Redfield, the former CDC director, and they asked him about phone calls. So during that time, we have emails. We went through those emails exhaustively. But there's also phone calls that happen that accompanied those emails kind of back.
Starting point is 01:12:36 channel phone calls between Farrar and Fauci and Christian Anderson. And so they were asking the director Redfield, the former director of the CDC, if he was on those calls, take a listen. Chairman, for two years, myself and the other Republicans on this subcommittee connected the dots. We exposed the evidence supporting our strong belief that COVID was developed and leaked from the Wuhan lab. And during those same two years, the same Democrats that sit on this committee, they only hindered, they obstructed, they refused to hold hearings and get to the truth. Now we see mounting evidence supporting the COVID-19 originated from the lab in Wuhan, China, run by the Communist Chinese Party. And this hearing is about getting to the truth.
Starting point is 01:13:22 I thank the chairman for making this the very first hearing because the American people who have seen just as many fellow Americans die from COVID, as nearly as many, die from COVID. that died in every war since the American Revolution combined, deserve to know the truth. Dr. Redfield, you pointed to the lab leak theory, even before we did. In mid-January of 2020, you expressed concerns to Dr. Fauci, to Jeremy Farah of UK's Welcome Trust, and to Dr. Tidros of World Health Organization that, quote,
Starting point is 01:13:57 we had to take the lab leak hypothesis with extreme seriousness. And you urge Dr. Fauci to investigate both the lab and the natural hypotheses. Shortly thereafter, on February 1st, Farah convened a meeting of a group of 11 top scientists across five time zones and asked Dr. Fauci to join, and he wrote, quote, My preference is to keep this group really tight, obviously ask everyone to treat in total confidence, unquote. Dr. Redfield, you were excluded from this call, but up until then, you had been on every single, you were included in every other conversation.
Starting point is 01:14:33 What changed? Why do you think that you were excluded from these conversations? Thank you very much. I think just to emphasize, in early to mid-January, I did have multiple calls with Fauci, Farrar, and Tedros about how important I thought it was that science get engaged in aggressive pursuing both hypotheses. I also expressed as a clinical virologist that I felt it was not scientifically, plausible that this virus went from a bat to humans and became one of the most infectious viruses that we have for humans. All viruses are not the same. So when you look at coronaviruses for SARS and MERS, for example, when they entered the human species, which they did via an intermediate, they never learned how to go human to human. Even to this day, they don't know how to go human to human. So you can't equate Ebola with a coronavirus. Why do you think you were excluded from
Starting point is 01:15:33 those calls. Because it was told to me that they wanted a single narrative and that I obviously had a different point of view. Okay. And emails following the conference call for the 11th scientists told Fauci that they all found the genetic sequence inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory, basically what you're saying. However, just three days later, these four scientists had drafted a paper arguing the exact
Starting point is 01:15:56 opposite, and that's now the infamous proximal origin of SARS-COVID 2. Our investigations show this paper was prompted by Dr. Fauci, among others, with a goal to disprove the lab leak theory. What is the likelihood that these scientists came across additional information just three days after making these statements to conclude with such certainty that COVID-19 came from nature instead of the lab leak that they thought it was three days earlier? Yeah, I think it's unfortunate. Again, I've said this before, that this whole approach that was taken on February 1st
Starting point is 01:16:29 and subsequently in the month of February, if you really want to be truthful, it's antithetical to science. Thank you. Science has debate, and they squashed any debate. Thank you. Given what we know now and looking at all the conversations
Starting point is 01:16:42 in February of 2020, and before the release of the paper, do you think that Dr. Fauci used this paper to hide the gain of function research created this virus? I can't talk about Fauci's motivation. Do you think that the paper does hide the truth? I think it's an inaccurate paper that basically was part of a narrative that they were creating. Remember, this pandemic did not start in January at the seafood market.
Starting point is 01:17:13 We now know there was infections all the way back into September. This was a narrative that was decided that they were going to say this came from the wet market and they were going to do everything they could to support it to negate any discussion about the possibility that this came from a laboratory. I got 20 seconds left. Dr. Fauci was affirmatively told an individual. told in an email that NIAID had a monetary relationship with the Wuhan Institute through EcoHealth Alliance. He was told this in January 27th of 2020. Do you think that Dr. Fauci intentionally lied under oath to Senator Paul when he vehemently denied NIH's funding of gain of function research?
Starting point is 01:17:49 I think there's no doubt that NIH was funding gain of function research. Is it likely that American tax dollars funded the gain of function research that created this virus? I think it did not only from NIH, but from the State Department, USAID, and from DOD. Wow, I mean, let's just take a moment here, folks, and try to remember any time that we've heard anything that dramatic happening up on Capitol Hill. This makes Nixon in trials over, you know, whether or not you tapped a phone. We are talking about government officials conspired to create a narrative about a virus that was sweeped. the planet, how you would deal with it, would obviously help if you knew where it was coming from. And the head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is not being allowed
Starting point is 01:18:38 as a part of the conversation, even though he's on the task force. I mean, I remember we were talking about this throughout, you know, we kept saying, I had FOIA requests out through Aaron's series saying, I just want all the emails between Fauci and Redfield that are just written in all caps. It was so clear that there was no love lost between these two, but we didn't know why. Now we find out he's not being, you know, brought into any of the conversations yet CDC is going to take the fall for having, you know, misplayed this virus. It's outrageous. I mean, it's amazing to think where this is all going. These are sound bites for the history books. In a culture we have of fast media. We really need, like you said, take a breath and understand
Starting point is 01:19:22 this is probably closer to the truth than we've ever received before we've ever heard. And from the get-go, I have a tendency to trust Redfield more than Fauci because he was the one in 2020 sounding the alarms about the increased suicide scene from the school closures and the opioid overdoses. And he was saying, got to open these schools. He was saying that against all the public health advice at the time. So he has a record of at least wanting to do the right thing. So now we have Jim Jordan, Congressman Jim Jordan, who is a co-chair at this committee.
Starting point is 01:19:52 And he gets on the mic and he really goes for it. And so remember last week we were talking about Christian Anderson. He was the one who originally started off this text message string or this email string from the FOIA request from scripts. And we have Robert Gary from Tulane University. These are the guys who eventually received some money after they looked the other way initially saying, I think this looks not natural. And all of a sudden, it's just natural.
Starting point is 01:20:16 It's conspiracy theory to think anything else. Let's listen to Jim Jordan, ask Redfield some questions. This is great. Three years ago, if you thought it came from a lab, if you raised that, you were called a nut job, you got censored on Twitter, you were blacklisted on Twitter, you were even called a crackpot by the very scientist who in late January sent emails to Dr. Fauci and said it came from a lab. They called you crackpot. Is that right, Dr. Redfield? I think the most upsetting thing to me was the Baltimore son calling me a racist because I said this came from a Wuhan lab. Dr. Reptole, you ran the CDC and you were on the coronavirus task force. Is that right?
Starting point is 01:20:56 Correct. That was formed on January 29th, 2020. Is that right? Correct. Two days later, Dr. Fauci gets an email from Dr. Anderson, which says what? Virus looks engineered, virus not consistent with evolutionary theory. Is that accurate? That's my understanding.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Next day, I know, did he share that email with you, by the way, Dr. Redfield? No. As a member of the task force, as the head of CDC, did he share that email with you? No. Okay. Next day, February 1, Dr. Dr. Gary sends Dr. Fauci another email. That email says, I don't know how this happens in nature, but it would be easy to do in a lab.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Did you share that email with you, Dr. Redfield? You didn't see either one of those emails, even though you're head of CDC, even though you're on the coronavirus task force, that had been formed just two days, three days earlier. No. Three days later, Dr. Anderson and Dr. Gary, who told us it came from a lab and emails to Dr. Fauci that Dr. Fauci wouldn't let Dr. Redfield see three days later, they changed their position 180 degrees. The question is why? Mr. Wade, why would they change their position that fast when the only intervening event is a conference call with Dr. Fauci, the guy who wouldn't let Dr. Redfield see the very emails that they had sent him. Dr. Redfield had a CDC on the coronavirus task force. Why would they change their position, Dr. Wade, or Mr. Wade? Well, if you're looking at the timeline on May 21st, just a few weeks after the National Medal, the, the,
Starting point is 01:22:21 the National Medicine article come out. Two of the signatories of the original email to Dr. Fauci, that's Dr. Anderson and Dr. Gary, awarded a $9 million grant for the reason. So there's nine million reasons why they changed their mind. I knew you get to it. I read that last night. Three months after, so three days after they say it came from a lab,
Starting point is 01:22:45 they changed their position and the only intervening events, a conference call with Dr. Fauci and Dr. Collins, again, a call that, Mr. Redfield was not allowed to be on the head of CDC and on the coronavirus task force. And then three months later, Shazam, they get $9 million from Dr. Fauci. Well, you didn't act something. I mean, we've been reporting on this, obviously. It's not necessarily news to us, but what is news is this is now a part of, it is going down on record right now inside of the Congress.
Starting point is 01:23:16 This is getting serious. These are serious, serious allocations. We are talking allegations. I mean, we're talking about, you know, millions of people worldwide dying from this thing. For all various reasons, all of which have been reported here. But now we're getting to the bottom of who was involved. Clearly Redfield was left out because he saw this differently. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:41 And so there's been a lot of information, a lot of internal emails. This is a lot for everybody to really comprehend sometimes because we go so deep in these investigations. but, you know, this next piece, send this to your family, send this to your friends, if they're still on the fence about this. We have the director, former director of the CDC, a part of the coronavirus task force at the Genesis in 2020, before the response happened, this was shaping this response, what they decided of where this thing came from. And this is a virologist as well, Dr. Redfield, and listen to what he says here.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Has gain of function stopped a pandemic, in your opinion? No, in the contrary, I think it probably caused the greatest pandemic our world has seen. Wow. I mean, that's incredible. You know, these science laboratories, man's mistake, clearly more dangerous than any God-given virus we've, you know, we've seen. And I've said it before, if we keep allowing the pharmaceutical industry to make products that don't go through proper safety trials and then get forced by government mandate upon all the
Starting point is 01:24:49 humans on this earth, our species isn't going to, we're not going to survive this level of stupidity. Luckily, it looks like many of us may have made it through this one, but we've got to stop this now. Incredible Jeffrey. Absolutely. Absolutely. And, you know, the gain of function is being used as the excuse. We have to do this research in order to make vaccines in order to catch the next pandemic before it starts. And there's Dr. Redfield virologists at the, really the beginning of this whole thing to saw how it had unfolded, saying, giving that warning, that warning to stop this gain of function research. And I think that's important just to leave the audience with because it's one of the most important messages here.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Absolutely incredible reporting, Jeffrey, and so huge. And to see, you know, some of the things we're doing looks like it's making it into these conversations. Just a really spectacular time. And as I've said, I really believe it's time for indictments. It's time for arrest. And I think this is moving in that direction. So we'll see how this goes. I want to thank you for your great reporting this week and we'll see you next week. Thank you, Dale. If you want to get deeper in these conversations, definitely check out the Jackson Report right there on our website, the Highwire.
Starting point is 01:25:56 He gets deeper into these conversations. I'm going to scare the hell out of my staff right now and just jump into a thought that just occurred to me because I know while we're talking about gain of function, we're talking about lab leaks, there's this little group of people out there that keep talking about terrain theory and germ theory and this conversation that many of you may not even understand. But I just want to say this. We are going to get into those conversations further down in the road with some of the people out there, but if what you want is to remove the idea that any of this ever existed, that any of
Starting point is 01:26:24 this ever happened, then what you're saying is you want Tony Fauci to walk off Scott Free. You want all these liars that lied to us and locked us down to get away with this by saying, oh, the germ never existed. It was never there when clearly the science is turning on them. Their own science is turning on them. And right at the moment where we are going to move into indictments and take these people out, What some of you out there want to do is let's just change the conversation all together and let these criminals that destroyed our lives walk off in the sunset. I don't understand it. I don't understand why that would be your conversation right now. For those of you that don't know what I'm talking about, just wait.
Starting point is 01:27:00 We're going to have this conversation further down the road. All right. Moving on to, you know, there's bucket list moments that happen right here on the show for me. And part of what this show is about is the things that, you know, I'm fascinated by, that Jeffrey are fascinated by. You get to watch our muse and what we are concerned about and the questions we want to ask. Sometimes there are people that predate the work that I did when I got involved with Vax. And I remember that there was a fairly famous comedian out there that was making some comments that blew my mind how brilliant they were. Before I get into those comments or, you know, what we're talking about, how about we just celebrate this illustrious film career.
Starting point is 01:27:45 of one of the great comedians of our time. This is Rob Schneider. Rob Schneider. Please welcome Rob Schneider. Hello, I'm Rob Schneider. Actor and comedic legend, Rob Schneider is here. From the upcoming show, Rob, please welcome Rob Schneider.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Please welcome Rob Schneider. Please welcome Rob Schneider. Live from New York, it's Saturday Night. Thank you very much. My name is Rob Schneider. I'm 5'5. Please remain seated. He doesn't know how to use the three seashots.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Tom man, TomTom. How you doing, Richard? The tomster making coffee. Bill. Name is Randy. You can come for this all pineapple. Clean your hotel room. Oh, it's from New Guinea.
Starting point is 01:28:47 It's a ceremonial spirit box. Wow, that's cool. What do you do with it? You put your weed in there. That's it, huh? This guy's 50. He's got a mustache. So good. That's 8.95.
Starting point is 01:29:11 What? Are you just gonna take it out of your tip chart? 95? I got that. He was trying to get out. You might want to get a cover for this. Sometimes people see me and expect me to perform like I'm some kind of train seal or something like that. Why don't you do a scene from one of y'all movies?
Starting point is 01:29:40 You can do it! You can do it, Nicky! You can do it! What? You don't like that's something about Mary movie. Mary movie. First of all, I wasn't even in that movie. If you see The Shark that did this to me, you tell him from me.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Excuse me, I got to take this. Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate it. Well, you know him from movies. He's made us laugh for many, many years. It's my honor and pleasure to be joined not only by a great comedian, but also really a true freedom fighter. So it's great to have you here.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Great to be here on the tonight show of disease. So, hi wire. Now, you do great work, and I admire you, and I've seen you grow over the years, and it's been a trip. It really has been. You know, people don't know that you, very early on, when I was getting involved with Baxed, that you had sort of been interacting a little bit with Andy Wakewell's other side of it, and sort of we met and had some thoughts about what a film like that would have to be. You had some great advice for me back then, which was.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Well, it's really cool. It's difficult to, you know, first of all, make any movie is tough, you know? You have to have the money for it, and then you have to be able to make sure and tell a story, and it's got to be, you know, the people, you want to bring in people that you, into the umbrella, under your umbrella, that you don't have.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Right. You got to people who are freedom fighters or right there, but how do we get other people in? Right. You know, that's the key to it. And it's been something that has opened up my eyes to the world. world and to how things really work.
Starting point is 01:31:32 And it's, luckily, there have been people like you who are real freedom fighters and also, you know, Barbara L. Fisher. Oh, yeah, yeah. My guru in this thing who educated me and then kind of pointed like how powerful and the tentacles of the pharmaceutical industry and the history of it. It was Roman Rosiniak and then Dr. Suzanne Humphreys in the book, Dissolving illusions. Yeah. It was very illuminating because you have to look at this historically how we got here. Yeah. And then maybe they'll give us an idea where we're going. I mean, how did you,
Starting point is 01:32:11 you know what, I think people are shocked right now thinking we're just, we're jumping right this conversation about vaccine because we don't know that about you. So let me, let me just go ahead. I want to play a video that I saw you speaking at the Capitol, I believe it was in Sacramento. Yeah. During, they're trying to pass 2109, AB 2109, which was the first senator. pan bill that was designed to just read you the right act like oh you'll still have your personal belief exemption we just want to have a doctor sit down with you and scare the hell out of you about the disease and what a disaster decision you're making and people were saying well no that's the slippery slip that's going to go into trying to take the right way right right
Starting point is 01:32:45 gateway um piece of legislation yeah that did lead in fact everything it's like uh when they're saying that it's a conspiracy theory well the the difference being conspiracy theory and reality They went from like six years to like six months, and now it's like six hours, you know? So I do think, but as far as that particular piece of legislation, which was onerous, because the idea wasn't to really educate. It was like for the mom and dads who are really, really have it difficult, and they both have to work, and they both have to travel and get to work,
Starting point is 01:33:23 and then they've got to come home and they've got to cook. They don't have time to go see the doctor to get a permission like this. So it's just going to be easier for them, just go ahead and agree to whatever the completely convoluted and corrupt medical establishment designed for them. And we saw that at that time in 2009 as a gateway to restrict liberties for people. Yeah. And for people, for average Californians to make it more onerous for them to decide what they want to do with their own children's help. To have their own choice. You got caught in a hallway there by a news camera. I want to play that footage real quick.
Starting point is 01:34:00 I don't know how long it's been since you've seen this. Hey, folks, take a look at this. Watch how eloquent Rob Schneider was all the way back. I believe this is 2012. Take a look. My wife is five months pregnant, and I'm for parental rights, not government coercion, telling us what we can do, what we can't do with our kids.
Starting point is 01:34:16 There is no other mandated procedure that is, first of all, it's illegal. You can't have, you can't make people do procedure that they don't want. The parents have to be the ones. to make decisions for what's best for our kids. It can't be the government saying that. It's against the Nuremberg laws. I mean, it's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:34:36 It's against the state constitution, and it's against their own bylaws here. I mean, I've been reading some legislation that was passed years ago about these to do state sterilizations, and they thought that that was a good thing. So you can't let the state make the decisions. The people have to decide, and parents have to decide, and that's why I'm here. You know, the idea that the state is going to tell me what I can do with my kids. First of all, and the doctors are not going to tell you both sides of the issue. They're not because they are.
Starting point is 01:35:02 They're told by the pharmaceutical industry, which makes billions of dollars, that it's completely safe. And let me tell you, they've gone from when you and I were kids, you had like eight shots. Now that's up to 70 shots and multi shots. And they don't tell you the safety of these things. There's no efficacy study. In other words, if you and I were going to do, if I was going to have a car seat, okay, I was going to say, here's the car seat, you'd have to show some proof that it's That's a safe seat, right?
Starting point is 01:35:27 You'd have to say, here's a thousand, here's a thousand accidents with it, and here's a thousand without it. And okay, you can compare. They have refused to, and no vaccine company, none of the pharmaceutical companies and government tests have done a thousand kids with the shots and a thousand without. They refuse to, because it's not what they want to hear. Because what they're doing right now is that the pharmaceutical industries are doing fine, they're making billions of dollars, and they're continuing to, they're increasing more
Starting point is 01:35:52 shots and it's at the cost of our children. Because the efficacy of these shots have not been proven. And the toxicity of these things, we're having more and more side effects. You're having more autism. When you go from autism, which is unheard of in America in 1930, to one in 5,000 after seeds started being preserved with mercury, which is the second most toxic thing on this planet next to plutonium, and then you go to, let's go up a couple of decades. By 1990, it was 1 in 200.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Now it's 1 in 88. Now truthfully, it's true that a lot of the autism rates are grouped into one, but there is something that's really happening. And one of the most vulnerable things you can do to a child who doesn't have an immune system is give them a shot. And I'll just give you one example. You take the hepatitis B, okay? The hepatitis, you're only going to get that from drug use, and you're going to get that
Starting point is 01:36:44 from intravenous drug use, and get from sexual contact. And yet they won't let a baby out of the hospital, and that's insisting on getting the shot. I'm sorry. There's an unnecessary shot that they don't need to. that they don't need to have, especially when the baby's immune system isn't developed. The baby's immune system is the mother's immune system. So it is beyond ridiculous, it's criminal. And so here we, I'm up here, flying up here, to testify to this lunacy.
Starting point is 01:37:09 And I can't believe that they're willing to continue this. And people have to stand up. I mean, that's the part about a democracy. People have to step up and that's what I'm here to do today. Do you think there's too much government intervention in our lives today, whether or not you live in California or New York or anywhere in the U.S.? I mean but there is some and there needs to be some. I mean, governments need to protect roads, and I agree with that.
Starting point is 01:37:28 But government can't make decisions on what I do to my body and my children's body. They have to stay out of that. That's not something that's open for discussion. I've got to make my choice, and I'm going to do what's best for my child. And the idea that they're going to mandate that if I don't want to vaccinate my kids, they can't go to school unless they get a consent from a doctor. That's lunacy. Because you're assuming that the doctor's going to show you both sides,
Starting point is 01:37:49 that there's benefits and there are risks. There's a great book for people to go and get. It's called The Vaccine Guide by Dr. Neustedlin. Read that and then become informed. And then you can make an educated decision, not a government mandate. And so I'm against this by Assemblyman Pan, is it? I'm not voting for Pan. I'm going to vote against him.
Starting point is 01:38:08 He's up for election. Let me say, I'm going to be up here, and I'm going to campaign against you, okay? It's for you putting a bill that's against parental rights. And I'm going to make sure you don't get reelected. You know, there's only so many times in life where there's an enjoyment. justice and you go, yeah, that one doesn't affect me, you know? Yeah. And I was like, whoof.
Starting point is 01:38:28 I was working as a producer at that point on the CVS talks to the doctors. I personally had never been vaccinated. So I was a bit, I was in this medical show, this medical world, really wasn't talking about my background. But the truth is, Rob, my mom just was like a hippie that didn't vaccinate me. It wasn't like I had some understanding of the science around it, whatever. It's just sort of how I was raised. I saw that video.
Starting point is 01:38:49 I'm, you know, somehow it came across my desk and I watched it. And it blew me away how much you knew. I mean, and things, I didn't, I didn't know any of that. I didn't know the autism rates and the increase that had been there. You were so eloquent about the hepatitis B vaccine. I remember thinking to myself, my God, how do you get to the point where you can just flow like that on an issue around science? And I'm thinking, and this is a guy I thought was just like, you know, ridiculous comedian, he's a funny guy. You were so eloquent. And I mean, honest to you, now I look back, I said that, it's like, I think I might have plagiarized you, man.
Starting point is 01:39:22 I mean, there's a lot of what you said there that became major talking points for me as I got involved in this issue. How did you, you're before my time? I mean, I don't know how old. We're probably close, but how did you get into this so early? Well, you know, it was, there's some things that get slapped in your face. And I would say, like, there's only so many injustices you can go through in life. Look at the cell phone I have. Well, it's made by slave labor in China.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Yeah, but I like my iPhone. It goes, yeah, I drive a Tesla. Yeah, but you know, the rare earth mineral. It's done by other slave labor. Yeah, but I want to keep driving my Tesla. You know, you think about this doesn't affect me, this doesn't affect me. That only can go so far.
Starting point is 01:40:00 And I do feel like there are some things that like, when you see it, you can't unsee it. And I remember I was always curious because my family, my mother's side, they're Filipino, so they have to be in medicine. They're all nurses and doctors. I'm the only official idiot in my family. You know, and the, by the way, when I was seeing that clip,
Starting point is 01:40:18 I hadn't seen it in years. The only thing I remember was the press saying, Yeah, but he said Nuremberg Laws. It's not that. It's called Nuremberg Code. Oh. That's the only thing you get out of it? Right.
Starting point is 01:40:27 It was that moron on HBO. What's his name? John Oliver. It's a complete chill, unfunny, pile of crap, that guy. And no one who's really a comedian respects that guy at all. And so it's just funny to see that that's what they pick, because it's so easy to go with the system and not go against it. But I remember, like, because I always had questions about things in medicine.
Starting point is 01:40:51 And I saw my dad die right in front of me and doing all the Western medicine thing they said and I had to say at a certain point and they were all well-intentioned good people Yeah, but then when you learn that the the allopathic form of medicine like we're different parts And I said so we're different parts and you realize that that's not a good system and that there was a flex report in 1905 And I started you start peeling the onion and you start going well there's this and the flex report was basically where they decided which is you know I I'm going to say, you know, this was funded by Rockefeller, but what it really was was they decided we're not going to do this type of medicine. We're going to focus on different parts. And I think it was, I can't say back then it was completely financially based,
Starting point is 01:41:35 but it was just, I don't think it was like today, doctors. I don't think it is intentional harm. I just think it's the way that they're trained. And so you have, they treat people like we're cars. Your part, you have a lung or whatever. when it's a systemic total body issue, the cancer particularly doesn't matter where it comes out. It's a system problem, and it comes out of this particular area, but it's not just that area. It's something has to change within the total body.
Starting point is 01:42:02 And so, and that holistic. And so you go down this road a little bit, and then I remember, you know, wonderful accidents that happened. One was, I was working with a director to make a movie, and I went to his house. Nice guy, very funny. man you know and famous and his wife was he was married to one of these doctors you know TV doctors yeah and she they just had a beautiful baby and just out of the blue I don't know why I said it I don't know why I asked yeah she said none and I go none well why not and she said well they're too small to absorb those
Starting point is 01:42:38 toxins and they have an external immune system their mother's breast milk and I said why do you why do you why do you tell other people to do it and she's well I don't it's up To them. It's up to them. And then years later, it's like, they're not up to them. Right. And you realize, and then you realize some of the health decisions that are made have nothing to do with health. You know, the HEPB one was my eye opener. because it was what Merck described as an orphan drug. And I said, what do you mean an orphan drug? He said, well, it was designed for teenagers. But you know when your kids are six, seven, and eight,
Starting point is 01:43:07 you stop taking them by the doctor because they're fine. You're busy. You got to do this. And the next thing, you know, you don't worry about it. You go to the doctor, they've got a broken arm or something. But you never go. Right. But you go in the very beginning because you're scared.
Starting point is 01:43:19 You're especially young parents. Yeah, that first little fragile baby just feels like anything can take it out. The greatest expression, the greatest thing he told me years ago, when I had Dr. Jay Gordon in Santa Monica, a great physician and a great person. He says to me, you know what, when a new baby is born in Los Angeles, you know, a new baby, new parents come to me, and they have a new beautiful baby. You know what they never say when they come in to me? What's best for Los Angeles that I used to do for my baby?
Starting point is 01:43:46 And so the Merck drug, going back to the Hep B shot, was they had a drug that was basically designed for teenagers or older people. No one was taken. And so they said, we're not going to have an orphan drug out there. if adults won't take it, we'll give it to babies. We'll give it to kids. And so it was the first day. Right.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Once you start peeling back and you go, this is, and then you start realizing like what's happening with the COVID drug, they have no liability. And I try to explain this to people. It said, okay, here's the thing. We're going to make you buy this tire for your car. Okay? You got to buy. It's mandated.
Starting point is 01:44:19 The government's going to, the government's paying your tax dollars for this tire. You have to have it in your car. You can't go to work. And if it explodes and you kills everybody in the car, You can't sue anybody. Why? Well, because, you know, what's best for the, you know, and so they have complete liability. So once you start peeling back, you go, this is lunacy, and this is something that has happened over many, many, many years, and to where now you're dealing with, then you get another statistic, and this is an old one by the NIH, where 54% of all children in the United States,
Starting point is 01:44:54 over half. And this is an old statistic. It might even be. Eight years, ten years old now, 54% of children in America suffer from chronic illness. 2012. That was that, that rate comes and we were all waiting where we at because it accelerated to that from about, you know, one in 10, one and two. I mean, you know, 12% having, you know, chronic illness, 54% by 2012. I would think at a certain point. Do you imagine where we're at right now? I mean, there's a reason they're not telling us.
Starting point is 01:45:22 They're not telling us. You know, it just can you imagine, like the, uh, What is it going to take before people or the media becomes a story? And I did say this. And it is only one term for it, willful ignorance. Yeah. I don't want to look at it. And I don't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:45:41 And I don't want to see it. And I just want to ignore it. And at a certain point, you know, as a human being, you have to say, I can't ignore this anymore. He said, this is. And something, I was about to have a kid when that video was happening. It was like, I said, you know, did you realize the power? I mean, as you walked in there, the power of being a celebrity the way you were. I mean, very few have ever sort of walked that path of the issue as controversial as this one. Did you realize what you were walking into? No, I did no idea. Really? I'm the idiot of my family. I didn't realize I was going right into the cannon fire. After that, I had to become more wily, as you have. Because, you know, if you are, you know, the drummer boy in front of the band, in front of the army, you know, the first, they got to shoot you to get to the army right you know and if you're one of the you know I can't call myself a leader in this this but I obviously if one of the people who who's who's out well you're visible I mean
Starting point is 01:46:36 you just had an immediate visibility plenty of people could speak but standing in front of a microphone when you turn to a camera as Rob Snyder and say hey read this book that has an effect I mean it doesn't that's why I mean I will tell you like I got when when all the when all this came down on me which was you know with the pharmaceutical business it's like it's so powerful this is all the stuff that i learned after after that was that they spend upwards in a non-election year 85% of all spending for television the internet which is now bigger than what's 10 years ago eight up to 85 percent in a non-election year is big pharma yeah it is only other one other country that
Starting point is 01:47:20 allows you know direct to consumer drug ads yeah there's a gigantic amount And if you take a look, and what was really interesting in California and then nationally was the biggest donors for every state legislator, every state legislator, and then federal, and then Congress and Senate, you realize the tentacles and what pharma is. Pharma is the legal drug cartel. They are, and they've managed to figure out a system of just like, this is just collateral damage for them. It's the cost of doing business, children dying, people dying. It's like they'll just pay it off. Until there is criminal charges, it will continue. Until the CEO or people on the board are brought up on criminal charges for fraud, negligence. I agree.
Starting point is 01:48:11 And criminality until there's a homicide charge. It's going to continue. Why? Because it's the cost of doing business. When you spoke out, one of the things, I remember headlines, I believe it was Allstate. Yeah, here where you are. Rob Schneider fires back after State Farm polls ad over his anti-vaccination views. The comedian quotes George Washington to suggest his freedom of speech is being infringed.
Starting point is 01:48:35 As though, oh my God, Rob, George Washington, how could you? I know. How could you? What is it like to sit in that? Well, because people don't realize how fragile that is. I mean, as an actor, this is a very small little world. As an actor, right, as an actor, you don't realize, like, the show business wants no controversy. They don't want anything like it's like it's trying to get people's eyeballs and people to like you.
Starting point is 01:48:58 And so the, you know, the writers are scared. The directors are scared. Right. The network is frightened. You know, you don't want any of this problem and any of these things. So if you are seen in that way, this is why actors are trying to get work. You know, I'm an elected board member, a national board member on the Screen Actors Guild. And they're all scared.
Starting point is 01:49:16 They're just trying to get work. And they're always coming from a position of fear, which is what you should not do. But it is tough because when they take away your livelihood, it threatened to. And it's an interesting thing that happened because I did this cartoon, which went all over the violin. I put my name on it. But it really showed what lengths the pharmaceutical industry did to protect themselves. Well, we have that cartoon. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 01:49:43 So we know we're talking about it. Let's roll it right here. Let's roll it. And this is, this is truly one of the greatest videos. I had it fact check before. before I put my name on it. And so I said, well, at least it's fact-checked. But the facts don't matter to the media anymore.
Starting point is 01:49:57 Well, here it is. So just so you can see it, this is a doozy. Check it out. Do vaccines cause autism? In the last 30 years, the childhood vaccine schedule has tripled, while the U.S. autism rate has skyrocketed from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 50. Dozens of published research papers show that, yes, vaccines and autism are linked.
Starting point is 01:50:23 Yet the debate rages on, in part because of the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, passed by Congress as a result of pharmaceutical lobbying. It shields drug companies from liability for injuries and deaths caused by the vaccines they manufacture. Vaccines that the federal government admits are unavoidably unsafe. To see how this tilted the law in Big Pharma's favor, Let's look at Eric, a child suffering from vaccine-induced autism. Had Eric been harmed by a pharmaceutical product other than vaccines, his parents could sue the manufacturer in civil court,
Starting point is 01:51:04 entitling them to the standard legal process with a judge, jury, private attorneys, legal precedent, and discovery, all within public view. But for kids like Eric, the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act says no. Instead of suing the pharmaceutical company directly, parents of children like Eric are forced to petition the Department of Health and Human Services and if federal health officials oppose compensation, the case is argued before a special master in the U.S. claims court. Many refer to this as vaccine court, though it isn't a court at all, but rather an administrative procedure in which the family asks the government to admit the vaccine caused their child harm and requests, compensation for the child's care. Here are some shocking facts about the so-called vaccine court. Pharmaceutical companies do not have to participate in the proceedings at all.
Starting point is 01:52:02 Taxpayers pay for all damages. The U.S. Department of Justice acts as the government's lawyer, with taxpayers footing the bill for their defense. The family's attorney is paid out of the trust fund, administered by the Department of Health and Human Services, Human Services, which has a history of punishing plaintiff's lawyers by slashing their fees and waiting a decade or more to pay them, leaving some families without any legal representation. There's no required discovery process, so potentially incriminating documents stay hidden
Starting point is 01:52:37 in the hands of the vaccine manufacturers. Most hearings are off limits. No public, no reporters. There's no judge or jury. A special master appointed by the U.S. Court of Federal Claims both presides over the hearings and issues the rulings, which can limit the chance of an objective verdict. Legal precedent is limited, so the program issues contradictory rulings. In the case of Bailey Banks, a special master ruled the boy's autism was caused in fact by the MMR vaccine. Yet in later cases, special master. ruled that vaccines do not cause autism, even though federal compensation has been awarded in at least 83 cases with autism. Almost unbelievably, the Department of Health and Human Services actually
Starting point is 01:53:30 owns vaccine patents. When these vaccines are purchased, HHS profits. In the words of Eric's mom, government attorneys defend a government program using government-funded science decided by federal bureaucrats trying to keep their government jobs. Kids like Eric never had a chance. The passing of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act prompted manufacturers to ramp up development of new vaccines, furiously lobbying the CDC to add their new shots to the recommended schedule. As a result, a baby today receives more vaccinations by six months than her mother did by the time she graduated high school. Amazingly, neither HHS nor Congress
Starting point is 01:54:18 has ever reviewed the potentially devastating health effects this vaccination surge has had on our children. Today, over half of all U.S. kids suffer from chronic disease and disability. At a November 2012, Congressional Autism Hearing, CDC officials failed to cite even one study backing up vaccine safety claims. Congress is now planning federal hearings to further investigate the vaccine injury compensation program.
Starting point is 01:54:49 The next round of hearings begins in November of 2013. If you're outraged by the staggering miscarriage of justice exposed in this video, please visit Canaryparty.org now and register for our mailing list. Find out how you can help hold our government accountable for vaccine safety and bring about justice for our vaccine injured children. I'm Rob Schneider. Thank you. That is all 100% factually true. You don't go to a judge. You don't get to show evidence. I know. It is a magistrate that is and you're not allowed to have the public there. So it really is very, you know, I hate to say it. It's, I don't know if you can use the word dystopian, but it's definitely
Starting point is 01:55:38 like, it may not have been dystopian by when you were making that video. It's It got there. I think we got there. I think you're a little ahead of yourself when you jumped in there. The Czech writer Kafka. It's very Kafkaesque. And so anyway, after that happened, I did this commercial, which was a mistake. I should not have done that commercial. I don't like doing commercials at all. I don't want to put my name on things. But and then so I did the state farm and I got bullied into doing it. One thing I needed the money to finish my TV series. I was doing myself. Yeah. I said, ah, we'll just go ahead and do it. But I knew it. It was like, I don't say it was a direct setup. But I don't say it was a direct setup. But I was. I don't say it was a direct setup. I was set up by the fact that I put myself in that situation. Yeah. And so what happened was there was a few people on the Internet. And at that time, you know, this is going back almost 10 years now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Where the companies were more, you know, would react if something. This is something we got to get a. And so it made it big deal about, you know, ending that campaign that I did with Aaron Rogers, who later had his own vaccine. Yeah, look, he got himself in the middle of it, the whole COVID thing. He didn't call me after that got pulled. I don't hold it against him. But, you know, it was very interesting was when all that went down and there was publicity and they literally tried to, you know, to end anybody wanted to work with me. I got an interesting phone call from a very good friend of mine who was a CEO of a Fortune 500 company.
Starting point is 01:57:01 And he called me and I just got off stage off the Wilbur and it was sold out show at the Wilbur. And I just got out of stage and I was still kind of shaken by it. literally physically shaken by it and that's what they try to do to fear you to scare you they really is they'll go after you and he got a phone call and somebody had talked to him and he said this to me and I'll never forget it and I'm putting it in my book and I'll talk about it here for the first time yeah he said um you're a nuisance now but you're really famous if you hurt them if you cost them money you will never work again they will sue not just you but the people that you worked for to make sure that you never work again
Starting point is 01:57:48 wow and i said uh what i'm saying is true somebody has somebody has to somebody has to talk about this and fight this okay and he said this to me said you have a daughter is it fair for her to have to fight this too it's like whoof that got me yeah that was powerful and it's true These people, they are relentless, and they will stop at nothing because it's an industry. It's like, you know, trying to fight the military industrial complex. I mean, it is one of the most biggest profit-making businesses in the history of the world. Why would they want, they don't want anybody fighting against this. Right.
Starting point is 01:58:29 But what was interesting at that time, because I had luckily, I had Roman Brezianak, who I can't pronounce his name, and I had you, who was kind enough to reach out to me, and I also had Barbara, Loh Fisher and she said something she said they're gonna push so far that it's gonna collapse yeah the pharmaceutical industry is gonna push so far and I remember because at that time I was working for around that time I was working for Disney and doing a movie before this happened and I remember Barbara calling me and said she they got a board at that time it was impossible to even admit to tell people that there was such a thing if first of a drug you know vaccine
Starting point is 01:59:12 vaccines are a drug and there are going to be any drug. There's no drug it's 100% safe, 100% of the time for 100% of the people. Everything and so we have to look if there are more benefits than there are than there are risks well then then that's a consideration needs to be done. That's how every drug needs to be done. That's how it does to legally and also ethically and morally we need to do that and it needs to be if there is risk there must be choice or we don't have freedom we have intolerance and we have really medical tyranny. So at that, time they were trying to raise they raised money through donors this is the national vaccine information center yeah great that's just for people that just maybe hearing barbara lofisher
Starting point is 01:59:52 you know she 10b s that org just finally got back on Twitter yeah thank you allan mosk yeah truly but she i mean it's spectacular one of the you know well she was actually worked you know founders i would say in many ways of the movement yes she worked with the reggae administration she had a child that was injured she wrote a shot in the dark yeah she's really the first seminal book yeah about vaccine injury. She was actually worked with the, on behalf of the parents with the Reagan administration under the Childhood Vaccine Safety Act of 1986, which actually said these drugs are unavoidably unsafe. Yeah. And so, but do they have a benefit to the public? And so what happened was once the liability shield got up, it's, it just was
Starting point is 02:00:33 open market on America's and the world's children. Yeah. Because they could do anything now, as long as it was approved, you know, by the childhood vaccine for the board. Yeah. Once it becomes part of that schedule, then they're liability-free. That's why it was so important for pharmaceutical industry to get in for the COVID shot. That's why they did that. Then they got liability free. How bad did it all hurt? I mean, you know, it doesn't cost money.
Starting point is 02:00:57 It costs a lot of things personal problems. You know, I mean, it was difficult not getting work. Yeah. You know. Did you feel like friends had turned on you? Did people, did you feel like there were people that could have helped you through that? I got a lot of phone calls of people who would not go public about it. I don't have a lot of friends.
Starting point is 02:01:16 But the friends who had stuck with me. And I remember, like, you know, I had some powerful people who contacted me. And over the years, they contacted me when it got tighter and tighter in California. He said, what can we do? And I said, well, you could have stood up and said something years ago. Right. Before it got this bad. You have to stand up because, you know, tyranny is incremental.
Starting point is 02:01:37 Yeah. You know, one of the things, I don't know why, but like I've always been interested. Because my father was a very good man. I remember in 1954, he told me, he made a decision. He said, this is not fair. This is not right. It's not ethical and it's not moral for discriminating against people on the color of their skin. In 1954, he was one of the first people in real estate who rented to African Americans in San Francisco
Starting point is 02:02:02 in places that were not being rented to people of color at that time. And that had an influence on me. and he was also Jewish and like so you know the Holocaust we didn't that long ago and so he said they're going to come again and when they come they're not going to take us we're going to you're going to go run and get this gun they're not going to get us alive you know and so when I when I went to Europe and I was in in West Germany at the Reichstag building in 1984 I said let me just read every law that the Nazis put in from 1934 until they didn't need to put any more laws in by about the end of that.
Starting point is 02:02:43 And it's interesting because it was incremental. And that's one of the things that never left me was tyranny is incremental. Yeah, we just take away this right. But no, no, no, it's okay. No, we're just going to kill these people. No, these are the people. You know, it's okay. This is not you, you know.
Starting point is 02:02:57 And then we're going to take these people. And then, well, these people. So, you know, it is really true. And it's another German philosopher who said that, you know, by the time they, you know, they came for the Catholics. Yeah. I didn't care. I wasn't the Catholic.
Starting point is 02:03:08 And then by the time it came from me, was too late. So it is, um, it was a, an eye opener to, um, to what, you know, to evil. And you have to call that what it is. Yeah. No, but I do think we are particularly, what a incredible country we have and an incredible place where we can, I could sit here today with you and talk about this. Yeah. It's amazing. It's very important that we, we still have these, these freedoms and that to, to stand up for them. And to stand up for them. And to stand up for them, when they're when they're most needed you know well let's look at what just happens so i mean here you are i mean honestly you're i'm not sure i'm here without you i mean i want to say that because i say
Starting point is 02:03:51 that to people like what can i do you know even if all you did was sort of affect me and and i said to myself boy it'd be really great to know have all that information i started looking into it and my life eventually led me to the things that turned out to be facts and all that and so you just think like these things that we do, we don't know who we're affecting and how far out this goes, had you had the world listened to your reasoning, which was, is excellent. It's the same reasoning I'm using today. But so let's just cut to everything we feared sort of in many ways came upon us. This COVID thing, and you talk about Hollywood. I mean, Hollywood here, you, you know, I was working in Hollywood prior to this. You know, I had sort of gotten out right before COVID. You have a career
Starting point is 02:04:36 in there, Hollywood was the propaganda machine for this insane destruction of liberty and freedom in America. What has that been, I mean, from an inside, I mean, no one was more tested. I mean, all my friends are calling me, I can't get on a set without getting tested every freaking day. Fear is an incredible tool that can be used in every great dictator as known that if you use it can be done well because your most basic instinct is well survival and so what happens is when you're any brainwashing techniques whether it's a cult or whether it's a you know a society trying to push and squelch the centers and get people to do something if you keep them in a suspended state of fear they will suspend their common sense and their sense of logic their ability to be
Starting point is 02:05:32 rational, we'll take the back seat to the survival. Yeah. And it is a herd mentality. And if you just take a look at like Stanley Milgram. Oh, yeah, yeah. If you look at Milgram and I go, because I had to, I mean, the social experiments sort of looking at what I was going like, I said like, how is this happening? How are not people seeing this? And, and then you just see, you read about Stanley Milgram's study, which was incredibly eye-opening was that 60% of his students, it was a fake thing where he would make them sit there and torture another person in the other room with electrodes to the point of death. And if the guy had a white coat who was telling him to do it, they would do it because it was an authority figure.
Starting point is 02:06:11 And it was incredible. The 60% of people that he had in his study, which even shocked him, I believe. I can't speak for him. But it seemed like in his writing he was surprised. That 60% would do it till the point of death and not question it. So that was really eye-opening. So there's very few people, and if you think about like, then you go, because I was just in Philadelphia and I was at the hall of Congress where the first Congress the United States was and hearing about, you know, the founding of our country. And like only 3% less than 5, closer to 3% of people took up arms against the British. Why? Because it's tough. It's difficult.
Starting point is 02:06:49 It's tough to make the fight. But I do think. It shows you how few it takes to actually, you know, overthrow a stupid system. It does. But it takes people to stand up for it. And it does take time. And if again, because, you know, like I was talking about Disney, I didn't get to complete my thing, my idea. But I also want to talk about the lead it and gas after this.
Starting point is 02:07:07 Okay. But there was a time, a dark time in the medical freedom movement where Barbara Lowe Fisher and vaccine, the National Vaccine Information Center wanted to buy a billboard on Times Square, a big billboard. And you weren't allowed to even advertise something. They would take it down. You know, the powers it be and the publicist and everything
Starting point is 02:07:27 for the pharmaceutical companies, hey, you got to take that down. That's misinformation. What it was, was information. It was saying there are risks, know the risks. Yeah. That was it, the National Vaccine Information Center. And that, you know what? That billboard was owned by Disney.
Starting point is 02:07:42 So what I think happened was that there, you know, it's so many people, so many injuries that happened. Yeah. That like one of the members of the board on, at that major, that big corporation, of Disney. Maybe there was somebody who was injured. They know somebody because they said, no, we're not taking that down. So that was a stand that somebody in the place of power took. And it does take a long time. And I will say that like the pharmaceutical industry shot themselves in the foot. And Barbara Lofisher was right, because she told me, they know they're going to have
Starting point is 02:08:14 these things called vaccine passports. And I said, ow, get out of here. How are they going to put that? That's going to be too obvious. And sure enough, you know, people will do what's easiest. And again, it's that 60% Stanley Milgram thing. And that goes. on how many years is this going to take before people realize what's, have they been hoodwinked here? Yeah. How many years? And then I said, well, and then I start, you know, I have to read.
Starting point is 02:08:36 I don't know what else I can do. I have to look at things historically to have some sort of perspective on these things. Yeah. So I started researching lead and gasoline. Well, by the late 20s, scientists knew for a fact that they were able to figure out that a, in the cities, in a smaller area, where a lot of cars and a lot of lead's happening, it's increasing the murder rate.
Starting point is 02:09:02 They said, absolutely, this is empirical data here. We have to look at this and go, this is something we need to look at. This is a real thing here. Yeah. Okay, from that to where they took lead out of gas, it wasn't until 1980. Wow.
Starting point is 02:09:18 So you go, okay, that's a half a century more. Right. After they knew. So that's kind of what we're looking at here. But I will say what sped it up was the COVID restrictions. The tyranny just was such
Starting point is 02:09:34 that you couldn't ignore it. And then it was, and it was, you know, I remember because I got the phone call. Rob, we want you to do a message to keep people indoors. And I was like, fuck you. I'm not doing that, you asshole. I didn't hear back from the way after that.
Starting point is 02:09:53 I was like, I'm not doing that. Yeah. First of all, you know, once you kind of know what you knew, you knew that this was kind of coming. Yeah. You smelled it right away. You kind of saw the direction they were heading. Yeah. During the COVID thing.
Starting point is 02:10:05 And then you realized it's probably not. I remember like his, Dr. Drew and I in March, Dr. Drew Pinsky, he was a great man. Great guy. He's been really beautiful. I think approaching this conversation in a very, finally. Finally, but in a very good way. A little while, but he's a good man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:22 Because he's open to the truth. Yeah. Unlike a lot of other people. people and in his profession. He's open to the truth, which is really beautiful because, you know, that is, um, an openness is what we all need to whatever the truth that it is. So we got on the phone with each other, just did a podcast. I don't know how many people, maybe 50,000, 100,000. Right. But that's enough to get the New York Times to do a giant piece on us, calling us COVID deniers. Wow. When we were saying, we weren't sure if this is more or less.
Starting point is 02:10:54 just potentially more dangerous than the flu. Right. And this is coming out of from a layman, and he's coming here from a doctor. This as far as a global, a deadly global pandemic is just simply, if you look at the numbers, it's not the case. This is not, the normal flu has killed 300,000 people in this last, you know, I think calendar year so far. Yeah. And in that same time, you're looking at what? You're looking at what, $8,000 for this particular brand of flu?
Starting point is 02:11:27 Right. But the discussion itself was not allowed. How could that possibly say? I mean, it's insane. We were saying here, I mean, obviously we're covering it here. I was like, hold on a second. We're looking at the numbers. Why can't we get clear?
Starting point is 02:11:39 We're good at collecting data. It doesn't look like this thing's getting above a half of 1%, which means we're right in the flu space. What is warranting the level of panic and lockdown and destruction of societies and careers and, you know, and you're right. Just asking that question, you became a pariah to the world. Well, you know what it really, I mean, if I think about it now, it was, it's easy to say it was planned. But I would think it was like, I can't go there 100%, you know, in my mind.
Starting point is 02:12:11 But I have to think that it was never let a crisis go. It was opportunistic. Yeah, you have to take advantage of your crisis, whatever. But it was interesting how it worked because when you start to peel away, and we had a lot of time, to peel away at this onion. I honestly think that's the biggest mistake they ever made. Here's what I said. Because you were speaking out, one of our problems is no one's listening.
Starting point is 02:12:33 Everyone's too busy. We're too busy trying to get through our daily life. More physically. When I said, hey, it's your choice. You take this or not. It's up to you. I said, your body, your choice, which they hate. You know, the illiberal liberals hate because, no, you're obscondy.
Starting point is 02:12:48 They don't say that anymore for choice. Right. But it is. It's my body of my, and I said, you don't have to take this if you don't want to. Just say no. Right. And I said that in July of 2021. And that was the most I've ever gotten ever. And I also said at the very bottom, this is what the second amendment is for this. Yeah. I stand by that. I never apologize for that because it's true. You can stand up to this, just tyranny. And it was being shoved down people's throats. Yeah. Against their will and take their jobs taken away. Getting fired. The first responders who were actually the ones dealing with this in the beginning were the ones getting their jobs. threatened and fired. It was just outrageous that this was happening. And but, um, you know, there is, there is a vulnerability. But to the point because, I mean, we're in media, right? One of the things that, you know, you had the issue is is people are too busy. They're too busy to look at this vaccine issue. They just drop, I'm dropping my kid off. I cannot work for,
Starting point is 02:13:40 I can't think for a doctor. I'm reading every label that it is. I'm already reading the labels. I'm looking at the child safety seats. I'm trying to get all that. But when it comes to this vaccine, I'm just handing my baby off. I got to get going. I don't have time to look at that. Exactly. I'm busy. COVID hit. You take these people that the way you've been getting away with this is they're too busy just trying to survive to actually look at what's happening. You say, now we're going to lock you're in the house. There's nothing else you can do except get on the internet. It was the biggest mistake they ever made.
Starting point is 02:14:04 You took the busyness out of them and he said, I'm going to have you so bored. All you're going to do is watch old videos of Rob Snyder, rip the vaccines and tune to the show the high wire and suddenly, boom, the world changes on them. Millions of people ended up seeing that during the pandemic, the statement that I made. But what happened was you started looking at stuff. I said, well, who's behind this shutdown? Where's it first? Right. It was Spain?
Starting point is 02:14:25 I said, Italy? And then Spain? And I said, well, what led to that? And so I started, the next thing I know, I'm looking at data from the Imperial College in London. Yeah. And this is not, then I showed it to my friends who were much smarter than me. And I go, well, this is, this is flawed data.
Starting point is 02:14:38 And I said, well, who's behind this? They're leaving out and cherry picking, which is what they do. Yeah. So I said, well, then who's behind this flawed data? Who paid for this? Well, Neil Ferguson was paid, and this is all paid for by China. Right. Where when the virus came out?
Starting point is 02:14:51 bizarre, right. So you're dealing with these lies upon lies upon lies that were finally being exposed because you can't keep, you can't keep a lid on it. You can't, you know why, and it's an interesting thing about where you come at it and I come at it because neither of our children are vaccine damaged. Right. So we come at this in a different place. But once you see it, once you see somebody whose kids, you can't unsee it. Well, I want to say because I think, you know, what we have got to always remember is that there was a movement built on just horrific injury and parents being told they were crazy and being ostracized for society. Barbara Lowe Fisher say at least pay for our children's injury. If they're a casualty, then you've got to at least pay us. You're not getting paid.
Starting point is 02:15:37 And they don't admit it. They're humiliating you. And so all of that. But the truth is, and I say this as I go out there with this movement is exploding now with all the people. And what those people are, people that listen to Barbara Lowe Fisher. People that listen to all these parents that told their stories. You know, and we were able to say, you know what, thank you. And so we've got to remember, we are here, our children are stave, because of these parents that were going through this horrific thing. The foundation of the medical freedom movement in the 20th century is on the backs of parents who had their children injured,
Starting point is 02:16:11 whose only goal wasn't for their own children because it was too late for them. Yeah. Was to prevent injury from other people because they know how painful it was. And that is very, I am so honored to have, if I can have helped in any small way and spoke for them in a bigger way than they could because of whatever stupid comedy movies I made. And it is the honor of my life. And I will say that like, because of that, they did help educate people like me. Yeah, me too. To prevent that from happening to other people.
Starting point is 02:16:44 And that is incredible. Because if you take a look at like motivations, ethics and morals, we have to. have to approach this this way. Look at the ethic and morality of this movement. It seeks, its goal is to prevent other damage and prevent other heartache, to prevent these other children to have a normal life, as opposed to what the pharmaceutical industry and the media is, is to have unfettered profit no matter what the human cost. And you take out these motivations, and it's pretty easy to say, well, you know, I'm going to be on that. that side. Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, guys like you, you know, we're not, it's not a lot of us,
Starting point is 02:17:29 but more every day, but it's, you know, the team's growing slowly but certainly. Not enough to feel the whole football team, but six or seven guys who can play both sides. But I, it's, um, it's something where I do feel more free now because I do think you have to be careful with, you know, with when to speak and what and how. There are people willing to listen. I will say that I think we're more free now. I think people are able to see when we have that Congress, that lovely Congresswoman, from first he was injured.
Starting point is 02:18:05 Nancy Mace? Yeah, yeah. Well, let's take a look at this Nancy Mace. This has heard just, I think it was about two weeks ago, really laying it out to one of the executives that decided to censor scientists and doctors and social media. Take a look at this. The Twitter files were not just about Hunter Biden's laptop. Twitter files make it apparent. Twitter worked overtime to suppress accurate COVID information. Dr. J. Bata Charia is a professor of medicine at Stanford who once tweeted an
Starting point is 02:18:34 article he wrote about natural immunity. Thanks to Elon Musk's release of the Twitter files, we learned some of his tweets were tagged with the label of Trends Blacklist. Apparently the views of a Stanford doctor are disinformation to you people. I, along with many Americans, have long-term effects from COVID. Not only was I a long-hauler, but I have effects from the vaccine. It wasn't the first shot, but it was the second shot that I now developed asthma that has never gone away since I had the second shot. I have tremors in my left hand, and I have the occasional heart pain that no doctor can explain, and I've had a battery of tests. I find it extremely alarming Twitter's unfettered censorship spread into medical fields
Starting point is 02:19:17 and affected millions of Americans by suppressing expert opinions from doctors and censoring those who disagree with the CDC. I have great regrets about getting the shot because of the health issues that I now have that I don't think are ever going to go away. And I know that I'm not the only American who has those kinds of concerns.
Starting point is 02:19:35 From Dr. Martin Koldorf, if Harvard-educated epidemiologists who once tweeted, COVID vaccines are important for high-risk people and their caretaker. Those with prior natural infection do not need it, nor children. The Twitter files reveal this tweet was deemed false information because it ran contrary to the CDC. So my first question this morning of Ms. Gatti, may I ask of you, where did you go to medical school?
Starting point is 02:20:02 I did not go to medical school. I'm sorry? I did not go to medical school. That's what I thought. Why do you think you or anyone else at Twitter had the medical expertise to censor a doctor's expert opinion? Our policies regarding COVID were designed to protect individuals. We were seeing you guys censored Harvard-educated doctors, Stanford educated doctors, doctors that are educated in the best places in the world, and you silence those voices.
Starting point is 02:20:32 I have another tweet by someone with a following of a full 18,000 followers. This person put a chart from the CDC on Twitter. It's the CDC's own data, so it's accurate by your standards. You all labeled this as misleading. You're not a doctor, right, Ms. Gatti? No, I'm not. Okay. What makes you think you or anyone else of Twitter have the medical expertise to censor
Starting point is 02:20:56 actual accurate CDC data? I'm not familiar with these particular situations. Yeah, I'm sure you're not. But this is what Twitter did. They labeled this as inaccurate. It is the government's own data. It's ridiculous that we're even having to have this conversation today. It's not just about the laptop.
Starting point is 02:21:16 This is about medical advice that expert doctors were trying to give Americans because social media companies like Twitter were silencing their voices. Did the U.S. government ever contact you or anyone at Twitter to censor or moderate certain tweets? Yes or no? We receive legal demands to remove content from the platform from the U.S. government and governments all around the world. Those are published on a third-party website and anyone can review them. Thank God for Matt Taibi.
Starting point is 02:21:44 Thank God for. Elon Musk for allowing to show us in the world that Twitter was basically a subsidiary of the FBI, censoring real medical voices with real expertise that put real Americans' lives in danger because they didn't have that information. It's amazing when she gets up and plays it. Well, she's coming from a place of passion. Yeah. Because she was injured.
Starting point is 02:22:07 You can't deny that. The pharmaceutical comes to say, well, you're a liar. You didn't do it. Yeah. They could do that to me. They can do that to you. They could cherry pick what we say and find whatever in eloquent inaccuracies, like saying Nuremberg Law, but when I meant to say Nuremberg Code,
Starting point is 02:22:25 they say, well, yeah, that's wrong. Well, you're right. I mean, you talk about saying it right, the right time. I was able to just, you're in town, I got to check out your stand-up routine. And the way you are weaving now through really dangerous waters, right? Especially Austin. Austin's very this is like San Francisco Texas okay I'm gonna to watch you in that audience but let's just let's just take a I go and roll out a couple of things that we saw that this is this is Rob Schneider just the other night on stage take a look at this Select the virus very lucky sluck you want to get a haircut
Starting point is 02:23:12 and your nails done dead getting dead church dead the virus you'll run over your f***ing the virus going on the virus respects you and you sit down you see them sad cars with her my nose is awful. The best thing in the rap for two years you know how I'm talking about you first heard about it
Starting point is 02:24:38 because he didn't know because you had the phone and you could have the phone on Instagram turned off your phone turn off the TV you couldn't even drive down the road and the state of Texas
Starting point is 02:24:49 trying to scare the shit out of you remember the signs on the road I don't know sometimes the words been more honest and the signs just said you weren't sure of what's happening
Starting point is 02:25:15 you know it's just going to know we're good So maybe it's not just going to open, but I'm just going to people who were really, really, really out of shape. But I'm really, really, really had a shape. Wait a minute. This guy's parachute didn't open, and he died of COVID. And the guard and the bank's like, excuse me, sir, you're in a bank, you have to wear a mask.
Starting point is 02:25:50 Boy, you guys have a whole 180 in that my... I mean, I have to admit two people did walk out, but only two out of 300 is pretty good. Yeah. I'll take that, too. And I'll tell you, Rob, right? those two. I want to know what it was that made them leave. Right in front of me. I was watching the table right in front of me. I would say they were 20 something. I had a sense of laughing their heads off. The whole opening, I mean, it was really hysterical. I have a laugh. Thank you so
Starting point is 02:26:30 much. I have not laughed. And my wife and I were really, you know, giggling so stupid. Executive producer, Jen Sherry, her husband. We were just having a ball. But, you know, you start out with just a lot of just like inconsistencies in the world and everything, very funny things. And then you would roll. You just like carefully roll into the issue of masking and someone wearing a mask in the car. And I watched this table in front of me and like you literally, it was like the shoulders went up. I was like, all to see is silhouette. It's like turning to each other and like she like shake like, it was like to try to shake the no out of themselves, like fighting it. And then just as I'm like, are these people going to get up and leave? And you just got out of the, then you moved into a
Starting point is 02:27:09 different topic. And then and then they were slowly, their shoulders went back down. They start laughing again and then you'd go into, you know, these difficult spaces. And again, like watching, and I have to tell you, it was brilliant. Oh, thank you. And you did, the way you approached the topics, you took really, really smart angles. I learned from Sarah Silverman, who's the other side of the political spectrum, but we're both the same. She's a traditional liberal, but she doesn't realize, well, I shouldn't say what, but I don't know if she really realizes traditional liberalism is under assault.
Starting point is 02:27:40 Yeah. And that it is now illiberal liberalism in the guise of liberalism when words don't really So you have these things now that are Trojan horse terms sound really good. Yeah. Social justice, I'm for that. Right. And then it's another thing like, you know, critical, you know, race theory. I mean, there's got to be something to that.
Starting point is 02:27:56 And then there's anti-fascist. So I'm not anti-fascist. Why wouldn't they be? But what it is, these are Trojan horse terms, as my friend Andrew Doyle says, and that really bad ideas are hiding inside of them that are not, that really are. inside there that are undermining this tremendous advance of 20th century liberalism, which is incredible. Freedom, honesty, justice, equality. This is what liberalism is. But now it's like equality doesn't mean anything anymore. I shouldn't say equality is not enough. And so you have
Starting point is 02:28:28 to put other people down and you have to say, well, they're racist automatically and that there's a systemic racism that they don't even know that. And so what you have is you really have, there's no longer logic, it is a political designed system to repress again, which is actually undermining all the advances that were made in the 1960s. You and I were the benefactors of in the 1970s. So that is the thing. So to get to it in a way where they don't feel attacked. And so I talk about because I do want to talk about the gay community and I want to talk about how like I'm one, don't lose me. Don't lose guys like me. Don't lose people who support you because the gay rights was a civil rights in the 70s, 80s and 90s. And they did.
Starting point is 02:29:08 come, you know, it did come and they did win. What I think has happened is you have, like, some people in my professional comedians opinion, yes. Who don't have the best interests of the gay community that are now infiltrating and, or now speaking for that community. And I do believe that there will be, that's potentially the gains that the, the wonderful gay community has made could be in jeopardy. And I'm concerned about that because I just love all people. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:34 You get into the attack on women, you know, and, you know, this, That is true. They fought so hard to establish inequality. And you said, you know, in the show you talk about it, where you're right about there. You're just about to be being paid what we all are. And suddenly now men recognize themselves as women come in and start grabbing everything. I mean, there's more. I didn't go into it last night because I know it was a bit much.
Starting point is 02:29:55 But I do think like there is physical jeopardy for women. I mean, just the fact that they're, you know, a man can say a rapist. It's true. I forget the guy's name in London. but in England, I don't think it's in London, it's England where he said, I'm a woman, he gets out of the men's penitentiary, goes to the women's prison,
Starting point is 02:30:14 and starts raping women in there. So you have not just the potential for the safety of women being in jeopardy, you have the physical jeopardy of women happening. You have more harm again happening to women. And it's also happening to Title IX. And this is a weird to say, because I'm a history nerd,
Starting point is 02:30:32 and I would say lightly. I don't have myself a historian, but I'm interested in this. And what is this? Yeah. So the last progressive president we had, who would you guess would that be? Progressive president? The last progressive president.
Starting point is 02:30:43 I would say people would say Obama. People would say Obama, they're wrong. Because the last real progressive president who put in progressive policies was Nixon. Nixon put in Title IX. Nixon put in the EPA. I mean, this is a very, you know, Nixon wanted universal health care, and he was opposed by Senator Edward Kennedy, believe it. Wow. And so, yeah, Kennedy, very mixed.
Starting point is 02:31:05 I mean, he wanted credit for it, and he also, he nixed it. So, but Title IX was very interesting because it was so positive towards women. Basically, he's Title IX saying, if you have a men's sport in the university, and that university is getting money from the state, well, then you have to have an equal woman sport of that or something of that, comparable. And so Title IX was very important for women and athletes and for an education, that you could have part of that education.
Starting point is 02:31:35 has to be sports. Part of it has to be, you know, many things to make for a really good education. So that was Nixon. So that is under threat now. And, you know, it's interesting because the people when you see, not to name, name names, but you see some athlete who comes in, you know, 72nd and in his against other guys and all of a sudden beating women. But the people in the audience who were clapping in the announcers who the poor bastard announcers, well, what a trailblazer she is, you know, wow, what an incredible. I mean, what a, you know, barrier breaker. You know, they don't mean that.
Starting point is 02:32:11 They're forced to say this because they don't want to be ostracized because they know that the illiberal liberal intelligentsia, if you go against any, if you don't bite into all of this apple, you're out. Yeah. And so I think it's important to protect women, more importantly than to protect an idea. Yeah. And it's more important to protect the gains of traditional liberalism than it is to put in a new philosophy
Starting point is 02:32:35 that is obviously barren of ethics and morals because it's on people because of the basis of the color of their skin, which is antithetical to true liberalism. And it's also the gay movement, which was, you know, a very important thing that happened in the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:54 Was to, you know, if Jesus said love others, he didn't say accept these people. Right. And so it's really important that, to also protect that important movement as well. And that's traditional liberalism. I grew up in San Francisco. My heroes, when I first was 16 years old,
Starting point is 02:33:10 and I went to, I lied about my age, and I got to go to a beautiful theater program at San Francisco State University. All my heroes, all the professors, all the people were gay. And at the first time, because I never, never... Look, I grew up doing theater my whole life. I mean, it's a part of some of my best friends. Beautiful people being, my hero.
Starting point is 02:33:30 Yeah, agreed. So, you know, Glenn Greenwald, a hero. Yeah. You know, and so, you know, that's my, you know, at this point, if I can do what I can to support these beautiful people, I will. Let's be honest. I mean, there is the tact on women. There is, I believe, you're right about attack on gay rights, all these attacks. But I think one of the most tragic and perhaps horrific and most terrifying destruction or attempted destruction by modern liberalism.
Starting point is 02:34:00 you call it because I consider myself a liberal too that has been but it is the attack on comedy the attack on our ability to have a sense of humor I mean I grew up when you look at Eddie Murphy Richard Pryor you look at all these people that are out there they jump and just hit you right in the soft spot of the moment whether it's racism or gays and all of it but our ability to laugh is why I think those movements were successful we've got to be able to sort of flex and now we live in a time where you are not allowed to joke about it. I was just reading this morning. Ben Stiller is having to defend Tropic Thunder.
Starting point is 02:34:35 They're like saying, I mean, he should recamp that he made it. They're going to cancel. Right, right. Back in time. You know. I think Bill Burr talked about it, but I talked about this years ago, well, during the COVID. Are you going back in attacking some article about John Wayne from 1972 at USC at
Starting point is 02:34:51 commencement thing when he was drunk saying this stuff? And they wanted to pull down the airport, right, John, like, we were going to take the name off of the airport. They're going to, something he said back when it was acceptable. They're going to, they're attacking. dead people because they've run out of people to attack. Yeah. It is an intolerance in the guise of tolerance.
Starting point is 02:35:05 But what is it like trying to do comedy right now? It is dangerous. I will say every show that I do now is sold out everywhere. Really? People want to hear it. But it was an interesting part about a year ago where people would pay money to come to my show to walk out in specific places. Really? They'd like, you know, huh?
Starting point is 02:35:23 You know? And it was kept happening. So my dear friend John Cleese wrote a... I said, Rob, you shoot John Clay's for Monty Python. And his great movie, Fish Call One, one of the great comedies of all time. And he said, you know, you should give a warning before your shows. And I said, John, what, give it to me. He said, those of you who find yourselves in a political echo chamber,
Starting point is 02:35:48 where ideas separate in your own may cause your emotional collapse, should consider that maybe this is not the show for you. Of course, I made it a little dirtier because I, I, I, I, I, I, I go. But, but, but and I did and I give a warning now. Yeah. You're warned. Right. Because, but the idea is that what happens is you're not in a, you're not in a bubble and people want to stay in their bubble and not be challenged. And the whole thing about you need to constantly, constantly be challenging the foundational thinking. Otherwise you get stale. Like the liberalism truthfully got stale or something. And now that it's being challenged and they're not
Starting point is 02:36:25 challenging the challengers. So there is, a dereliction of duty in liberals to call out this illiberalism. I think there's a dereliction of duty by Hollywood also and by media. It is. Look at all of these times, it's really art that saves us. Art is what perseveres, whether it's dancing in a speakees, you're trying to move people's hearts even though we're in a difficult situation. If we lose the artist, if the artist get bought out or somehow start working for the machine,
Starting point is 02:36:58 I think it's game over. Hitler very much knew the power of... Well, I would say the thing about comedy is, which I'm very aware of, is it's subversive. I can, if you allow yourself to be logical and rational and you allow yourself to laugh,
Starting point is 02:37:15 I have the, I believe I have the potential to subvert you temporarily to my point of view to open something, to maybe expand your your idea on a subject and that's it and Hitler knew that
Starting point is 02:37:30 and that's why he hated that you know the dictator so much in Charlie Chaplin because he realized wow people are being subverted by humor if you can make them laugh then they no longer want you have an ability to really sort of
Starting point is 02:37:42 get a rabble crowd to kill you you're humanity I mean the difference between us and the rest of the animal kingdom the ability to laugh and to look at ourselves and to look at the potential and go like well we can also foresee our graves
Starting point is 02:37:55 I don't know if whales or lions can do that. We can look at our lives and go, well, what do we want to add? What do we want to do? Or what do we want to say? And I will say that for all the difficulties that I have suffered, I suffered, but whatever, well, for the difficulties that I had for speaking out, whatever,
Starting point is 02:38:11 I regret none of it. And I feel like blessed because I needed to. I needed to get back to where I just wanted to, you know, tell jokes on the stage that hopefully made people laugh. And if I can get them a thing, fine. But that's not the goal. The goal is to express what I want to do and make people have a good evening and a good laugh. And that was it.
Starting point is 02:38:33 I've had to go because, you know, what happens, I'm sure, where you can go down the rabbit hole and get lost. You know, because it is so much trauma and there's so much pain. And there's so much of the people in our community. And I graciously, you know, put myself in it by saying, by including myself, because I don't have it. injured children. I'm not injured. But I, but when you see that at that depth of pain and how these people, I don't know if I would have survived that. I just don't know if I have that makeup where I see these beautiful parents. I agree. With injured children and the, you know, you see Polly Tommi, Tommy, the grace. One of my co-producers on Baxed, yeah, great.
Starting point is 02:39:19 Polytommy, and you see the grace that this woman holds herself. When you see people like, you know, Josh Coleman, whose child's injured by vaccines, and how he moves his message forward in his own unique way. Even the movement of look, I mean, the signage and the genius of that, and these stunts at Star Wars and Disneyland, I love this guy. It take pain and they beautify it. Yeah. Artistically.
Starting point is 02:39:49 And I don't know what it is. I don't want to ever describe what it is that I'm trying to do because I don't really know what it is it's very fluid but I will say that I I want to present an openness for people who want to come to it and and also just you know I'm very proud of the fact the people that I've met through this who've educated me Barbara L. Fisher yourself I mean whatever if I helped you in the very beginning you have lapped me and your courage and you're speaking you know and being able to sit with Robert Kennedy Jr. and seeing his evolution on this this issue
Starting point is 02:40:23 and dealing with his rejection from his own family. I mean, it's a, you know, it is in any rights, and I will say that this is a civil rights movement for the world. I think it's the most important right we have is control over our own body. If we lose that, all is lost. We have nothing. There is nothing left.
Starting point is 02:40:42 It is, and Barbara Lowe Fisher, I'll quote her, the most basic human tenet of human rights is to have control and body autonomy, to have control of our own body and to make decisions. that was best for me and my family. And if we don't have that, then we really do have global charity. Is there anything left to me? You've had such a, just a beautiful career.
Starting point is 02:41:05 You've come full circle. They've attacked. You've showed you can stand. Now you are speaking, your mind, selling out theaters. What's left in a career for someone like you? What is the dream? What is it, what is that you need to do to feel like, man, that was a hell of a life. Well, thank you.
Starting point is 02:41:20 I never take the time to think about that. but thank you for even posturing that I would like to make a few more movies that make people laugh and a few more movies that touch people's hearts I'd like to live long enough to see the medical freedom movement
Starting point is 02:41:41 get what they deserve which is a constitutional amendment so that people have the choice to do what they want what they feel is best after doing the risk analysis assessment for themselves with their personal physician who's not being told what he can and cannot say. For themselves, what they believe is best for themselves and for their children. And so that we can have a healthy group of children who don't have to worry about somebody
Starting point is 02:42:08 else bringing peanuts to school. I didn't grow up with that. We had no peanut allergies. And I'm not a doctor and I don't profess to say exactly what causes that. But I will say there is a plethora of children who are dealing with chronic illness that I believe is preventable. If that is not the number one issue every day in the newspaper, then what is our nation's, our future of our nation is our children's health. And if I had anything to do with opening people's eyes or anything to do with helping that medical freedom
Starting point is 02:42:43 movement moving inch, it's the greatest honor of my life. Where do we find out where you're going to be next? Well, Rob Schneider.com for tour dates. And it's been a blast and people have a really good time now. I'm there to get laughs and if people take away what they want, they can. It's great. You got some great days coming. And people got to see the show. It was absolutely hysterical.
Starting point is 02:43:02 I think coming up, you're in Houston, Texas is out of Tampa, California. I'm taping my comedy special April 15th. April 15th. Where's that going to be? Can we like get into that theater, Phil? Yeah, Tampa Bay. It's Tampa Theater in Tampa Bay. Okay, April 15th, Tax Collecting Day.
Starting point is 02:43:18 It's also my birthday. Hey, right. Yeah, we're on Tax Collecting Day. beauty. Parents are always flat broke when it's time to get a present. Well, we'll get you a present in September. All right. Now I know. Well, it's an honor to get to stay here with you because you did. You were part of opening my eyes and this is a bucketless moment. Oh my goodness. What a pleasure. Good hanging with you last night. You too, man. Absolutely. We'll do it some more. All right. We have movies in our future. Yeah. It's an honor to be with your brother.
Starting point is 02:43:42 All right. Take care. Thank you. All right, everybody. I mean, you know, these, I hope you get to experience the high wire part of what it is is what i get to be a part of and the questions i get to ask and people that keep coming to the high wire all that is made possible because of all your great support out there but you know look the some of these topics get complicated if you want to get really good at speaking at it it starts with a couple you know sound bites i never thought i'd be able to speak as well as rob here uh but if you start one soundbite at a time or maybe just watch a little bit of a clip of one of the stories that we've done that's why we created get facts FACNAIDES.
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Starting point is 02:45:28 That was absolutely awesome, wasn't that? You know, look, the world is changing. We've said from the very top of this show. We've got comedians speaking out, and we've got people thinking about running for president, and all of this starts to change the climate. There's one more video I want to share with you as if we haven't had enough that was on our side.
Starting point is 02:45:47 another comedian. Maybe we could change some laws or something and make this guy President of the United States because he absolutely nailed it down when it came to lies coming from mainstream media. Take a look at Russell Brand on the Bill Marsh Show last week. A lot of people have said for a long time that Fox News isn't a real news network. It's a propaganda network. It's now all out there. It's all in the Dominion's suit.
Starting point is 02:46:10 It's disingenuous to claim that the biases that are exhibited on Fox News are any different from the biases exhibited on MSNBC. It's difficult to suggest that these corporations operate as anything other than mouthpieces for their affiliate owners in Black Rock and Vanguard. And unless we start to embrace. And also, mate, like just spiritually, if I may use that word in your great country, we have to take responsibility for our own perspective.
Starting point is 02:46:38 I've been on that MSNBC, mate. It was propagandist nutcrackery on there. I went on a show called Morning Joe. It was absurd the way they carried on. Good morning, Joe. Yeah, I don't know what it was. It wasn't morning. There was no one called Joe there.
Starting point is 02:46:50 No one could concentrate. They didn't understand the basic tenets of journalism. No one was willing to stick up for genuine American heroes like Edward Snowden. No one was willing to talk about Julian Assange and what he suffered trying to bring real journalism to the American people. And I think to sit within the castle of MSNBC throwing rocks have Fox News is ludicrous. news is ludicrous. My friend. Make MSNBC better. Make MSNBC great again. My friend. I would look, I would, the moment, the moment, the moment, the moment that you give me a specific example, an actual example, I'll give you one. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, just wait. Let me need a specific example.
Starting point is 02:47:35 How about a specific, let me tell you what, the specific idea of here. I'd like to hear a specific example, approval, a specific example of an MSNBC correspondent or anchor being on television, saying something they knew was false, and we're saying behind the scenes to people, this is, I'm about to go out, and we know that the election wasn't stolen. You've illustrated this example, but I will go, but I will go out, but I will go out on television and say the opposite. I will lie. When's my answer?
Starting point is 02:48:01 Just give me a specific example. Give me a specific example. All right. I'm with you. I think it's a false equivalency, Russell. It's a total. It's a, that's your home bias. It's not about bias, it's a false equivalency,
Starting point is 02:48:13 because you don't actually know anything about any of these organizations you're talking about. Even at MSNBC once, big fucking deal. My darling, it was more than enough. You can't come up with it. It was such a carry-off. You don't have a single actual fact. Do you want an example?
Starting point is 02:48:25 Do you want an example? The ludicrous, outrageous criticisms of Joe Rogan around ivermectin, deliberately referring to as a horse medicine when they know it's an effective medicine. Not a response. What are a radical Maddow turning up on the TV saying if you take this vaccine, you're not going to get it.
Starting point is 02:48:43 When it can be clinically trialled to transmission. You have to listen. Wait. It's not a response. I think you can improve America by determinately and avowedly condemning Fox News without acknowledging that you're participating in the same game. Did you not just listen to Bernie Sanders, someone who plainly legitimately believes in this country and believes it's possible to change, but is bound by corruption, is bound by the lobbying system?
Starting point is 02:49:07 Surely it's clear to you, Bill, as well. one of the great pundits and experts and comic voices that systemic change is required. Money has to be taken out of politics. We need new political systems that genuinely represent ordinary Americans so that we can overcome cultural differences. And bickering about which propagandist network is the worst is not going to save a single American life, not improve the life of a single American child,
Starting point is 02:49:35 not going to approve America's standing in the world, and the world needs a strong America. I'll tell you that. So you have an obligation, a duty, not to condemn these people. I don't know if you can feel it, but there's a revolution happening, folks. And it's amazing. We've got Kennedy's thinking about running for president to talk about vaccine issues. We brought you a comedian from San Francisco. I grew up in Boulder, Colorado, Russell Brands. So any of that wants to label these things of conservative or right wing or any of it, the whole thing is crashing down, because it really just comes down to truth.
Starting point is 02:50:13 It comes down to the truth and being able to speak the truth, whether you're cracking a joke or you're being serious. It's all about representing yourself. So please, as I say it every single week, sit back and think just about this show and how many brilliant minds have walked across it, how many people have put their careers on the line to speak the truth.
Starting point is 02:50:36 This is our time, our children are counting on us. There are so many brilliant people that are now walking with us, leading us, walking behind us, lifting us up. It's time to be happy. It's time to allow ourselves to laugh. It's time to grab our power. It's time for the truth to make the decisions of the world. That's what we're fighting for here at the High Wire. That's what we represent with every guest we bring on here.
Starting point is 02:51:04 And I can't wait to keep doing it. And I can't wait to see you after another power. week of your experience in this world. We'll see you then on the Highwire.

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