The Highwire with Del Bigtree - HANCOCK CAUGHT RED HANDED WITH THE LOCKDOWN FILES

Episode Date: March 18, 2023

The Telegraph’s publishing of former UK Health Czar Matt Hancock’s private Whatsapp messages has been dubbed ‘The Lockdown Files.’ The messages detail multiple interactions demonstrating the U.K. Government’s willingness to abandon science and a reasoned approach to Pandemic measures, for coercion and control of the British people.#MattHancock #TheLockDownFilesBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. And the pendulum swung so hard over these last three years, mandated vaccines, force masking, essentially, Liberty-killing lockdowns. And it's swinging hard back the other way. So get ready. You know, we've had the Fauci files that we've covered, you know, for years on this show. Some of it actually we received through our FOIA request at ICANN, Inform Consent Action Network. We've had the Twitter files who, Matt Taibi, he just got done testifying in front of Congress talking about what he found. and he's calling it a censorship industrial complex.

DoD, CIA, FBI, merely every agency was sending spreadsheets to Twitter to censor people. And now we have coming out of the UK, the biggest story there, not really giving a lot of play here in the United States, but the lockdown files. And this centers around Matt Hancock. He was the former UK Health Secretary. And he gave his information, his WhatsApp Twitter accounts, all his messages. And he wanted to have a memoir written about him, a COVID pandemic memoir about how he, you know, rose to the challenge and really helped save the UK. And he gave this to a woman to write, signed a contract with her.

Her name is Isabella Oakshot. And she took this and she was reading through it. And she goes, wait a minute. There's some really disturbing things in these WhatsApp messages. I think it's actually in the best interest of the country to release these, break the contract and let the freedom speak. and the truth speak. So this is what started it off. So thank you to the journalists that have been out there of these last three years that have been really just breaking these stories and the lawyers as well for getting the FOIA requests and normal citizens. And this is Isabella's Twitter page on

February 28th. She gave these all to the Telegraph. That's the paper out of the UK. She says the lockdown files at Telegraph is the biggest leak of data involving the government since the 2009 MP's expenses scandal shedding new light on issues including care home deaths, lockdowns, testing, school closures, face masks, we all deserve to know. And Dell, you know, looking at that list, we were really, really interested. So again, this is a little different than the Fauci files where you could just freely search

this, anybody in the public. This was kind of being gate kept by the Telegraph and they're just pumping out article after article as they've looked through these 100,000 plus messages. So this is the headline here if you wanna go to the Telegraph's page and check it out. And let's just go through some of the revelations here. So we talked about fear.

Fear was used so many times this pandemic and here's the first one authors discuss when to deploy new variant project fear and so this is matt hancock talking to his media advisor damon pool and they're talking about basically trying to scare the pants off the public and let's look at let's go right into these messages this is going to be a kind of a theme of this segment going from the headline to the messages let's see what they say so damon pool says this rather than doing too much forward signaling we can roll pitch with the new strain again damon pool not a doctor not a scientist is advising, he's telling Matt Hancock how to do this, not asking him, telling him.

Matt Hancock says, we frighten the pants off everyone with the new strain. And Damon Poole says, yep, that's what will get proper behavior change. Matt Hancock says, when do we deploy the new variant? And then Damon Poole starts to really strategize this. He says, been thinking more about this and think we need to be more cautious, the strain, that is. Think you made the point earlier. But we need to keep schools off paperwork and agenda.

Yeah, I think that means keeps schools close. And Matt Hancock says, yes. And then Damon Poole says something really interesting. He says, worth doing a bit about no leaking at the top, I think. Big risk with the variant. That's a new variant they're about to release. He says, right-wing papers go for a renewed push for the let it rip on the basis the vaccine strategy is undermined. Matt Hancock says, that's why we reassure on the vaccine. So this media advisor is saying, yeah, let's scare the fans off people with this new, with this new variant. But, you know, people are going to say the vaccines didn't work because now new variants are coming and this let it rip that's that's kind of internal censorship code word for the great

barrington declaration you know that was right almost signed by a million people now right jabotacharya martin cordoff at all and simply put protect the elderly those at high risk and it was a very specific group of people as i say i didn't use the let it rip i said let's go out and catch this cold from everybody that was healthy you didn't have any comorbidities you know under the age of you know 60 you really you were going to fare well and we could get to herd immunity. So is that idea that they're obviously saying, that's going to say that the vaccine, if we talk about the variant, the vaccine,

they're going to say it isn't working. But just to be clear, when they're saying, let's release the new variants. Some people might be thinking they're like actually going to like release another lab created variant. Is that the sense you get? Or are they just saying we know there's another variant out there? Let's release the press around it.

I mean, just I want to make sure we're not misleading people. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. It does read like that. The sense I got in also researching this is the data monitoring from the WHO and everybody else that was given them input and suggested there is a new variant. The problem was they need to politicize it. When's the best time for the greatest amount of impact to let the public know about this?

So, you know, all these messages are really shorthand. So you got to, like, read a couple times to really understand what they're talking about. But so in that Let It Rip was like a limited hangout. None of the authors of the Great Barrier Declaration said anything about Letter Rip. They've never used those words. That was used as credit them. So they're actually going back and forth with misinformation in their text messages. So a day after that text message exchange between a media advisor, Matt Hancock,

Matt Hancock goes in front of the press and says this. Over the last few days, thanks to our world-class genomic capability in the UK, we have identified a new variant of coronavirus, which may be associated with the faster spread in the southeast of England. Initial analysis suggests that this variant is growing faster than the existing variants. And the latest clinical advice is that it's highly unlikely that this mutation would fail to respond to a vaccine. But it shows we've got to be vigilant and follow the rules and everyone needs to take personal responsibility not to spread this virus. I mean, there he went. Scared the pants off of them was the goal and that, you know, mission accomplished and scared the pants off of everybody.

delivered in a dire consequences, you know, type of tone. And behind the scenes, it's all just, you know, theater. Absolutely. You know, it's spreading fast. The vaccine, there's no evidence that the vaccine doesn't work. So check that one, too. We got a call on the vaccine on there. So now, let's talk about lockdowns. So these messages talk about how they kind of worked to behind the scenes for the lockdown vote. And there was a tier system. So they, they were, when the full lockdowns were coming to an end, there was going to be a vote. And well, instead of just releasing everybody,

we're going to have a tier system, tier one, tier two, tier three. And we're going to have this thing, you know, the highest tier will be full lockdown again. And then, you know, various levels of that, but all pretty much, you know, restrictions on life and liberty at that point. You know, social gatherings, things like that, masking. And so there was obviously a very important vote coming. And we have this from the telegraph.

It says how off the boil MPs who criticized lockdowns were placed, placed on a secret red list. So to really frame this story and get some impact on it, I want to bring attention to a member of parliament. His name is James Daly. And James Daly is really interested. His focus is on kids, kids with disabilities, getting them back in school. And, you know, sometime before this vote to have this tier system come in, James Daly said this in Parliament. Take a listen. Okay. On National Teaching Assistance Day, will the Prime Minister join me in thanking teachers, teaching assistance and all support staff for the extraordinary work they're undertaking to bring our children

back to schools colleges and nurseries in COVID secure environments throughout Barry Ramsbottom and Tottington and will he update the house on implementation of the national tutoring program as many of the most vulnerable and disadvantaged children in my seat need this help at the earliest opportunity so he talks about the disadvantaged children a tutoring program getting really wanting to get them all back into school right right right Yeah, and he was behind something called this learning disability hub, too. He wanted to get kids with the disabilities, you know, really help them out with this. So now we go back to the WhatsApp messages with Matt Hancock.

And he's talking to a special advisor, a parliamentary special advisor for the Department of Health. He's named Alan Nixon. And Alan Nixon. Oh, my God. He's like 13 years old. This is making the decisions for the world. You got a kid with acne making the decisions for you. Right.

So he says this to Matt Hancock. Again, not suggesting, kind of telling. He says, I think we need to dangle our top ass over some of these 2019 intake MPs who are going off the boil this coming week, meaning this coming week for the vote. Thoughts on me suggesting to Chief Spads that they give us a list of the 2019 intakes thinking of rebelling, meaning not voting against this. E.G. You know, for example, James, remember James Daily, we just saw him. James wants his learning disability hub and bury. Oh, that terrible person.

He says, whips, call him up and say health team. want to work with him to deliver this, but they'll be off the table if he rebels. We're talking about blackmail, Dell. Wow. Clean, black and white. Simple blackmail here. He says, these guys' re-election hinges on us in a lot of instances, and we know what they want. We should seriously consider using it. IMO, again, using blackmail. Matt Hancock says, we shouldn't do that? No, he says, yes, 100 percent, not 99, 100. And so in the article, I mean, just stunning revelations.

We're just getting started here. So he says this in the article. They write, Mr. Nixon said, Mr. Hancock, a spreadsheet from the Whips Office. So we got a spreadsheet with the names of 95 Tory MPs who had reservations about the tiers policy, of whom 57 were rated red, meaning they were hardliners. The Tories are like conservatives here in the U.S. And you can see the Telegraph actually posted that spreadsheet. So you can go to that article and read the spreadsheet, read the comments about them.

And what's interesting is we have this time capsule now. And there was some good happening during the pandemic. People talking about, I'm not voting for this because if they're using the words economic harms, there's no cost-benefit analysis done. When I look at that list, I try to imagine if here in the United States of America, as I watch Jim Jordan, who's going to be coming up here in a minute, and Massey and Ron Johnson, and, you know, these people, if they, if our government, if Tony Fauci, which she probably does have a list, right? This is, you have to imagine, but can you imagine if these guys,

found out they were on a list and being targeted that certain things they cared about would be taken away if they didn't vote correctly. I mean, this is, I hope this is blowing up the government in the UK because here I think it would be nuclear. I'm no lawyer, but it seems like there's a lot of evidence here. So days before the vote, Matt Hancock is actually asking Mr. Nixon for the names in a frantic way. He says this in his messages. He said, can you resend me the list? Just need to call. saying, give me the list of the names. I need to call these people. I'm going to call them directly. And Nixon, two minutes later says, yes, no problem. This starts firing off names. Boom, boom, boom. So here we have Matt Hancock calling these people personally. I wonder what was discussed

on those conversations. My gosh. And as history shows, the tier system was approved. Here's the headline from that time. And 55 Tories rebel is COVID tier system approved in commons. I wonder what happened to those 55 Tories. Interesting to keep an eye on them to see if they're the things they want that are important to them kind of fall to the wayside because they didn't vote properly. But now we move on to something else. We're talking about lack of liberty, the lockdowns. And in the UK, they actually had some pretty hard quarantines. They actually had quarantine hotels. This was a B-roll of quarantine hotel at Heathrow Airport. People would land. They couldn't leave. You see that fence there. And there's this chainling fence that people can't get past. A journalist tried to talk to them and they were ushered

away by like guards or something. I don't know what was going on there. But these are the people that would land from like red listed countries and they'd have to do these quarantines. They couldn't they couldn't get out unless they had two positive COVID, two negative COVID tests. And we know all those false positives that were thrown up during that time. We're giving people a huge problem. They couldn't get out of these quarantine hotels. But then let's talk about what was like in there. This was a headline from the time during those quarantine hotels.

My Heathrow quarantine hotel hell, tiny rooms, root staff, and cold curries. And so what was the government doing at that time? Oh, man. Can't have your cool currie smoothie? No. No, what out of here? So was the government really trying to help these people, trying to really get through these quarantines?

This is what the telegram had to say about this. It says how those in government gloated as travelers went through distress of the hotel. Back to the WhatsApp messages. This should be a common theme at this point. Matt Hancock says this on February 5th of 20th. 2021. We are giving big families all the sweets and putting pop stars in box rooms. And then Simon Case, he's a permanent secretary at number 10 Downing Street. He said, I just want to see some of the faces of people coming off the first class and into a premiere in shoebox. He just wants to see their faces.

How funny that must be. And then Simon Case the next day says, any idea how many people we locked up in the hotels yesterday? Matt Hancock said none, but 149 chose to enter the country and are now in quarantine hotels due to their own free will, explanation mark. Simon Case, hilarious. This guy thinks funny. I mean, Dell, this is psychopathic behavior at this point. Wow. This is not even. So fast forwarding now, did it even help? Did locking down, you know, besides getting laughed at by your government, did even help? We have this headline here. Quarantine hotels. UK authorities don't know how many cases they prevented despite 400 million pounds spent. And that's where we're at with that. That story, just the bookend there. We don't,

even know if it helped these lockdowns and it made a lot of people very uncomfortable they spent a lot of money because they had people had to pay out of their own pocket to go in these quarantine hotels two or three thousand pounds so just to imagine like when you think about the importance of a republic like we have here in the united states of america and having a government for the people by the people that is trying to you know take uh our freedoms away and get in control of our liberty when you see the power that these little health ministers and everything and the fact that the all had. You have to imagine it was no different here. We were having the same experience here. But, you know, they're laughing at us. They're giggling about taking first-class travelers and

sticking them into a shoebox. I mean, these are psychopaths. And sure, they want more power. God, you know, God help us if we're stupid enough to give them a single inch more. If anything, it's really time to get back and put them on. on the leash. They're the ones that should be on the leash, not us. And these messages center obviously around Matt Hancock because they're his messages. However, understand, it's not about one person. It's about the structural format of the government and how it performed during this. And this is, you know, it's a testament to why government should never have this power again.

Now, let's go to testing. So we talked about that Matt Hancock had this great 100,000 tests a day, basically a goal. Matt Hancock's targets of 100,000 coronavirus tests a day. So this was this big thing. This is this big move. He was really grandstanding on this. And during that time, he was given all the large care homes, gave him messages, sent letters to his office and said, look, you got to be really careful.

You have to test all these people coming in these care homes because this stuff spreads like wildfire here. Remember, we remember Cuomo in New York, same situation there. He was packing the nursing homes, wasn't testing people coming from hospitals. And so this is the headline here. Matt Hancock, by the way, Cuomo had to hide. He had to hide his death rate, which is. what really got him into trouble. He took the default out, which was some form of sexual harassment. That was the easier way out than what was really at his doorstep, which is you murdered elderly

and then hit it from the world. I mean, let's not forget that happened. Okay. Correct. So similarly in the UK. Similarly in the UK. So Matt Hancock was warned, says the headline of COVID care home risk in March of 2020. So at that same time, let's look at the conversations he was having. So again, the lockdown files, we go back to those. Matt Hancock rejected expert advice on care home testing what's that message is reveal. And we go into those. And on April of 2020, remember, he was warned in March of 2020, you really got to be careful of these care homes. In April of 2020, he says, fine, tell me if I'm wrong, but I would rather leave it out and just commit to test and isolate all going into care

from hospital. I don't, I do not think the community commitment adds anything. And it moneys the waters. Have that for a Q&A response. So he's saying, yeah, if you're coming from the hospital, cool but if you're coming from the community or off the street you just let these people go pack the nursing homes it's fine and we now know that that's where a lot of that transmission happened from off the streets so he goes on to say this now remember he has this testing goal he's this big thing someone named civil servant says asymptomatic test testing sub is reading top recommendation is that you agree to prioritize testing of asymptomatic staff and residents and care homes where an outbreak has been recorded within the past 14 days not you know if that's not happening don't prioritize it

no big deal. We estimate this will result in 60,000 tests being carried out across 2,000 care homes in the next 10 days. May Hancock says, this is okay so long it does not get in the way of actually fulfilling the capacity and testing. So he's basically saying, this is fine, but I have this goal. I'm grandstanding on this goal politically. So as long as that pesky care home testing doesn't get in the way of my testing goal that I put out to the public. Protecting people, just make sure my goal is protected. Exactly. I mean, politicized to the core, to the core on this. one and what's what what's that message leak lockdown files won't be complete without some vaccine messages some good old passion vaccine stuff so let's talk about this before we talk about that though

the end of the the care home fiasco led to this this is the you know it's kind of a really sad headline more care home residents died of COVID and second wave than first in england and wales you were talking like over 40 000 people it's it's it's so his lack of concern about the care homes ultimately he had to same brilliant achievement as Cuomo, you murdered innocent, elderly all across the country. It appears so. And now, so he did, you know, beyond these media advisors and these, these kids, basically, these young kids that are advising him, we did have Chris Whitty in there. He's the chief medical officer for England at the time. And he said this, this is the headline, COVID not deadly enough to fast track vaccines. Chris Whitty advised ministers. So he was basically saying,

he said like 1% at the time. He said, like for a disease of about 1%, let's say, you know, it's really not worth fast-tracking these vaccines and not doing the proper safety studies. Now, 1%. So let's see. And again, this isn't to give credit where credit is due, but we know how history showed. It was a group government decision. So Chris Whittie was even off at 1%.

So we look at John Eunitus. He's the preeminent epidemiologist. He's done amazing work during this pandemic. And he has this, a paper, the updated paper, age stratified infection fatality rate of COVID-19 in the non-elderly population. And he says, remember 1% where they were talking about behind the scenes, he says across 31 systemically identified national serial prevalence studies in the pre-vaccination era, the median infection fatality rate of COVID-19 was estimated to be 0.034% for people age 0 to 59 years

and people 0.095% for those age 0 to 69 years. So not even close to 1%. And that was Chris Whittie's advice. If it's 1%, we shouldn't fast track the vaccines and skip safety testing. It was way below that. So another X mark for Matt Hancock's record here, not good. And so did he listen to his vaccine czar? This is a woman named Kate Bingham.

And she was interviewed in 2020 by the Financial Times. And this was the interview, if you want to take a look at this. This is actually, you know, in light of the whole thing, kind of a funny thing. Less than half UK population to receive coronavirus vaccine says Task Force head. And she says at the Financial Times, Kate Bingham told the Financial Times that vaccinating everyone in the country was not going to happen, adding, we just need to vaccinate everyone at risk. She goes on to say people keep talking about time to vaccinate the whole population.

But that is misguided, as she said. There's going to be no vaccination of people under 18. It's an adult-only vaccine for people over 50 focusing on health care workers and care homeworkers and the vulnerable. So, I mean, you know, you look back at the pandemic, that's about as close to a middle of the road statement as you're going to get. It was science-based at the time. If you take, you know, the science, TM, that was what it showed, what we were shown. So let's look at the WhatsApp messages. And let's see what Matt Hancock had to say about that.

So here's Damon Pool, again, media advisor. He sends Matt Hancock the link of this Financial Times article. And he says, this is unhelpful. And funny, Matt Hancock, with all the finance and the UK government at his disposal, says, I don't have a subscription to the financial times. But is this Kate? And Damon Poole says, yes. And Matt Hancock says, if so, we absolutely need number 10 to sit on her hard, whatever that means.

She has view on a wacky way of expressing them and is totally unreliable. She regards anything that isn't her idea as political interference. Matt Damon Poole says, yep, I had a blazing row with her when I was. at number 10, I'll speak with them. It's not her call and it is deeply unhelpful. And for those of us in America or around the world where number 10 doesn't make sense, that's essentially the prime minister they're talking about, right? Get the prime minister to sit on her. And at that point would have been what, Boris Johnson, I suppose? Yes, correct. Okay. Yeah. And so, so that's what's going on there.

Anybody that expressed anything that wasn't full vaccination for the entire population all the time, day and night, you're going to get number 10 to sit on you. It's very unhelpful. You're wacky. crazy, you're done, forget about it. Even if you come to him with science like Chris Whitty did and said, we shouldn't skip these vaccine trials. But another thing that was used against people like that, whether it was in these messages or publicly, was this moniker of hard right or far right. And it's in the U.S., it's also in the UK.

And people opposing the lockdowns in the government were labeled as that. So this is the headline here, toxic culture of fear meant lockdown skepticism was dismissed as hard right paranoia so now we move over to the united states that's the same essential label that was put on people at cnn if they wanted to look into the lab leak so this was cnn n or ex-cnn boss now jeff zucker told staff not to probe lab leak theory because it was a trump talking point boy were they wrong wow my gosh so we have this thing now there's these levels of ways that the the censorship has happening. Right now, we have the FTC is demanding the names of the journalists who were given access to the Twitter files, and we know how that works. But we have a lack of

trust in these agencies. This was a new study, a new poll that was put out. Trust in U.S. federal state and local public health agencies during COVID-19 responses and policy implications. And this was one of the graphs. This was made by Axios during the reporting. And they said, they looked at the CDC. The major reasons why Americans say they lack trust in the CDC for accurate COVID-19 information. Dell, 74%, this is the highest I've ever seen, said political influence on recommendations and policies is why they don't trust the CDC. 73% said, I don't trust the CDC because they've given too many conflicting recommendations, and 60% say private sector influence a la Big Pharma on recommendations and policies.

Wow. I mean, overwhelming. This is just overwhelming. Well, in the right, I mean, it shows you that's the wake-up call right there. we are waking up to what's actually going on here because they've just gone way too far. And they have. And what happens when they go way too far? They double down. And this is a concerning thing I'm seeing. Heads up if you're in Washington State because this is kind of the next movement on the attack of free speech and the First Amendment. So in 2022, there was a study that was commissioned

by the Attorney General's office in Washington State. This was a study on domestic terrorism. Remember those words? They keep coming up and they're coming up for a reason. The report says this. The report's top line. It's number one recommendation. Urges the legislator to create a new commission on domestic violent extremism. That's right here in America, composed of diverse stakeholders with the goal, the broad goal of establishing a comprehensive public health and community-based framework for responding to DVE. Well, just a year later, right now, 2023, that bill is being created. And it can be voted on right now.

So call your representatives and really make your voice heard on this bill. Here's the headline that's reporting on this. And thank God people are. Critics warn Washington extremism bill targets free speech. And this article says, HB1333 creates a domestic violent extremism commission to develop ways to combat disinformation and misinformation. Here we go. Though the two words are not defined in the bill, also not defined is the term domestic violent extremism. So it's a blank check and they can go after anybody they want.

And that's what this bill looks like is trying to do. Wow, very, very scary. Imagine Matt Hancock with the power to call you a terrorist if you were going against and were speaking the truth. Amazing. Absolutely.