The Highwire with Del Bigtree - HOW DTAP VACCINE SPREADS WHOOPING COUGH

Episode Date: May 18, 2024

Whooping cough outbreaks in several locations around the world are putting the vaccine into focus. Is this due to poor performance or poor uptake of the problematic vaccine? We dive deep into the scie...nce surrounding the DTaP vaccine, and answer an important question- does the vaccine make you a silent spreader of the disease?Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let's go from really a pandemic that we just lived through to an epidemic that we're being told maybe on the horizon here. And that's whooping cough. And if you haven't heard about it, check out the news because here we go again. A whooping cough outbreak at a Bay Area high school has parents concerned tonight. South Carolina already has reported more hooping cough cases than all of last year. Morin County is currently experiencing a whooping cough outbreak. Yeah, 113 cases just since December. The UK could be experiencing its biggest outbreak of hooping cough in two decades.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Australia is in the midst of a hooping cough outbreak with at least 3,000 cases recorded so far this year. The Health Department has issued an advisory urging folks to make sure they're up to date on their vaccinations and to monitor themselves for symptoms. It's recommended infants get their first dose of the vaccine at two months. They'll need a booster at about four months and again at about 15 months and four to six years of age. Pertuses can be particularly severe in young babies less than six months of age. And for that group, the best protection is vaccination in pregnancy. We, this is, this is one of our babies here at the Hiawire. We've done a lot of discussions on pertussis long before the COVID vaccine.
Starting point is 00:01:20 I know you're about to get into it. But boy, when I see these pregnant moms being lied to and these, you know, these poor babies, It's really a sad state of affairs, but let's get into it. Yeah, it seems like Groundhog's Day. What's changed is obviously we just finished this lockdown response, and this is what some of the literature is showing now. So let's just jump to this study here, and this is out of France, association between COVID-19 and pandemic and pertussis derived from multiple nationwide data studies.
Starting point is 00:01:47 And it says the limited circulation of B-Pretus in the community may be a clear positive collateral effect of the measures imposed by the COVID-19 pandemic. They actually use the words lockdown in this study. However, this reduced bacterial circulation may decrease the herd immunity with the subsequent risk of a larger epidemic in the coming years after relaxation of all mitigation measures. So they're actually saying it's the lockdowns that may be causing this. And if you go into this study, you can see that. But let me be clear because I know there's two things happening here. We're showing they're pushing a panic for whooping cough, but that's saying there's actually less whooping cough around.
Starting point is 00:02:25 they have some theory about lockdowns. Maybe it's the fact that nobody's vaccinating. Is it possible that vaccination is a problem we're going to get into that? I know, but just so people are clear, they're saying that even though you're being told to be scared of it, there's actually less pertussis circulating,
Starting point is 00:02:40 at least in that study, correct? Yeah, yeah. It's a very interesting, it's a very interesting conundrum that they're pointing out here. We're doing really well, so make sure you'll go out and get vaccines now for the future. Yeah. And then when it gets worse,
Starting point is 00:02:54 for the future is like more people need to get I mean it's it's madness go ahead looking across all the coverage of this whooping cough I mean there's multiple countries these outbreaks they're saying is that they're no longer blaming anti-vaxxers for it that's a big change in the narrative it's nuance but you see that they're saying the pandemic may have caused vaccine hesitancy the mandates the vaccine mandates and those that response so that's that's a small win but you look back in this study and you can actually see how the the pertussis rates just flatlined And here's the cases by month identified by France's hospital surveillance data. You can see it right after 2020 flatlines.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And then you can see another one here, private outpatient laboratories, PCR confirmed, same thing, just completely flatlines there. And so that brings us to the vaccine. And so this is the big question because what's the answer? Well, you heard all those news reports go out and get your vaccine. If you're pregnant, get your vaccine. And so there is a study that was funded commissioned by the FDA. It's in 2013.
Starting point is 00:03:53 It's a very good study. And in the title, I'm going to read the title here. It's Acellular Protysis Vaccines Protect Against Disease, but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a non-human primate model. So what they did was they vaccinated baboons with several doses of this acolular protestis vaccine. They put them in cages with unvaccinated baboons. And well, you know what? You went over this at one point and you did an amazing job.
Starting point is 00:04:19 So I'm just going to let you take it from here. So take a look. All right. If your pediatrician has said, you better make sure that your grandparents and everybody visiting you has gotten a D-TAP vaccine because your baby is susceptible to pertussis and it could kill your baby. Stop. Stop right there. I'm going to explain why right after this piece of total bull crap. There's something out there. It's a highly contagious disease. It can be especially serious, even fatal to infants.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Unfortunately, many people who spread it may not know they have it. It's called. called whooping cough and the CDC recommends everyone, including those around babies. Make sure their whooping cough vaccination is up to date. Understand the danger your new grandchild faces. Talk to your doctor or a pharmacist about you and your family getting a whooping cough vaccination today. What is the scientific evidence that you will be protected
Starting point is 00:05:13 by a D-TAP vaccine and that the baby will be protected because you got a D-TAP vaccine? It's actually the exact opposite. I want to point you to a study that was done by scientists from the FDA, cellular pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a non-human primate model. They did a primate study which is the gold standard of safety testing. Here's how it went.
Starting point is 00:05:42 We used our brand new D-TAP vaccine on the pink baboons right here. Boom, we gave them all D-TAP. This is the common vaccine used all around the world. And this group are totally unvaccinated. The blue monkeys here all have natural immunity. Why? Because they already had the virus. It's not injected with anything.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And now they are immune for life. And they come in with the pertussis bacteria. And they put them all in contact with pertussis. Here's what's interesting. To the D-TAP group, remember this is the accellular pertussis. This group that got sprayed with pertussis, they had the entire disease, they were carrying it, the only difference was they had no cough. They didn't know they had it, but it was inside their lungs.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Then this group of unvaccinated, just as we would suspect, all got pertussis. They weren't protected and they felt like crap. And we're hacking their fool heads off. Lastly, the group that had once had pertussis and are now naturally immune, guess what? a single bit of colonization. They are perfectly healthy. They will be healthy for life because as we've said, real herd immunity requires that you get the disease. Grandma says, oh, I had pertussis 15 years ago. Come on over. Now it comes down to these two groups, which is what this commercial is all about. What they're telling you is this is the safer group to
Starting point is 00:07:15 have visit your baby. Here's what I want you to think about. Both these groups are admittedly, totally contagious with pertussis. This one, ah ha ha ha, honey, grandma calls. She feels terrible and she says, I'm not visiting the baby because I have this atrocious cough and I probably shouldn't come over. That's what the unvaccinated group is going to do, but this group just as contagious, but because they've had the vaccine, are not coughing. They have no idea they are fully contagious with pertussis. So they're coming over to visit baby, just like your doctor said, Just like the commercial told you to do, get your deep tap vaccine except it's made you a silent potential killers. They did a side study.
Starting point is 00:07:58 They took one of these pertussis covered D-TAP monkeys and they put it in a cage with a totally unvaccinated healthy monkey and they let them sit together. And guess what? Every time they did this experiment, this totally unvaccinated monkey got the disease from this vaccinated D-TAP monkey. Fully contagious and dangerous. So in the end, who is the real wolf in this story? The D-TAP group. This is the most dangerous group on the planet. You will never know whether it's safe to be around your baby.
Starting point is 00:08:34 On the other hand, this group will have pertusses once. But once they're done with that cop, they will never get it again. So they can visit any baby they want for the rest of the their lives safely, they can also know because they have a cough they shouldn't come over to mommy and daddy and baby's house. That's the facts, that's the science, and there's never been a greater display of false advertising than that horrific ad by Glaxo Smith Quine. Well, obviously the show's cleaned up a little bit since back by hippie days, but
Starting point is 00:09:17 you get the point. really fun to look back at how we, you know, got that story across. And it's super interesting, right? And just to make sure you got it, this is true about D-TAP. And it's the same thing with COVID. This is the argument we're making with COVID. The COVID vaccine has the exact same problem. You cannot create herd immunity, which is the entire purpose of a vaccine if the vaccine is a leaky vaccine. If you are contagious, but you just don't know that you are, everywhere you go, you are getting people sick. And then imagine these children will say, well, you got to protect the immune suppressed child or the new infant, the baby, you know, or grandma that's sick and got
Starting point is 00:09:59 cancer, whatever it is. And they're saying, get the vaccine. It's the last thing you should do. That's the only thing is doing is taking away your symptoms. Now you're walking in and you're getting everybody sick. This is an argument we've made in court. This is an argument that's winning in court. It's also the problem of the COVID vaccine. Jeffrey, there's more detailed to this, though. I mean, there's a lot of science around this. And it's important for people that are here that only know about COVID, that they really understand what we're talking about with DTAP because it kind of explains it all. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:10:27 So people will say, you know, that was a study from 2013. Well, certainly they've done a lot more research since then. And you can see, here's a study from 2019, right before the pandemic. And this is talking about pertussis resurgence, reasons for the resurgence. This is a well-done study, several authors. And it says in there, if you read, And consequently, preventative measures such as a cellular pertussis vaccines that do not induce a valid mucosal response can prevent disease but cannot avoid infection and transmission, just
Starting point is 00:10:56 like the FDA says. Right. Then it goes on to say lack of mucosal immune responses after a cellular protestis vaccine administration. Listen to this. Favor infection, persistent colonization and transmission of the pathogen. That's not too good if you're trying to stop this thing. Mucosal immunity, I mean, vaccines do not do a good job at that at all.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Immunity does a good job at that. So they go on to say this. Finally, A cellular pertussis vaccines do not prevent colonization. Consequently, they do not reduce the circulation of B pertussis and do not exert any herd immunity effect. These findings, at least partly explain the resurgence of pertussis. Huge, huge statements there. But then where we go into... All right, here we are. I guess we're having a lot of trouble. Jeffrey's system keeps shutting down. Let me just go to the rest of the slides. Can you bring them up? Because I think what we're talking about is these studies are showing that not only are you not, you know, stopping the infection. It's actually priming you so that you end up being infected more often.
Starting point is 00:11:57 This is a famous study by a guy named Cherry, Dr. James Cherry. This is what he wrote. This is the 112-year odyssey of pertussis and pertussis vaccines, mistakes made and implications for the future. Just leave it right there. I want to explain to folks. This is going to be tough for most of you because. Most of us at one point or another believed in this program went along with it. This vaccine is given in, I think it's five doses now by the time you're 18.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Three of them within the first two years of your child's life. And you took one as a pregnant mother for most of you. But here's the reality. We've got to just face it. As I said to Brea Ann Dresen, I think the human body is amazing. But this is the reality around this terrible, terrible vaccine that should have been. called. Look at what he goes on to say in this study. Because of the small number of antigens, three to five in D-TAP vaccines versus 3,000 in the original DTWP vaccines, which were super dangerous,
Starting point is 00:13:00 linked epitope suppression occurs. Because of linked epitope suppression, all children who were primed by D-TAP vaccines. Let me read that again. All children who were primed by D-TAP vaccines will be more susceptible to pertussis throughout their lifetimes. And there is no easy way, otherwise known as no known way, to decrease the increased lifetime susceptibility. Meaning once you've got this vaccine, you will be infected more by pertussis the rest of your life. You'll catch it over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:13:38 And my favorite study, because it goes really beyond the thinking you should have around the childhood vaccine, program beyond COVID is this one. The resurgence, this is Boston University School of Public Health. The resurgence of whooping cough may owe to vaccines inability to prevent infections. We have said this time and time again, we know this, but look at this. The disease is back because we didn't really understand how our immune defenses against whooping cough worked. What? We were clueless and did not understand how the vaccines needed to work to prevent it, said Christopher Jay Gill, Associated Professor of Global Health and Lead Author of the Article.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Instead, we layered assumptions upon assumptions and now find ourselves in the uncomfortable position of admitting to you that we may have made some crucial errors. This is definitely not where we thought we'd be in 2017. Guess what? You're still here in 2024. Same stupid vaccine. Same vaccine getting all your children affected over and over and over. again, all of you mothers over and over and over again, you're not protecting your baby,
Starting point is 00:14:48 you're putting them at more risk. And this is a question that I really grapple with all the time with vaccines like this. If it's only stopping my symptoms, but I'm still an infected carrier, and I'm a carrier more often, what if all the vaccines are doing that? Or how many are doing that where I'm an infected human now with a disease that my body used to clear from my body. Beat it, beat it up, kicked it out of the neighborhood, never came back again. Now I live with disease in me as a constant. I just don't know it because they don't have any symptoms. What are the long-term health implications of human bodies that carry disease perpetually but don't know it? All right, we've got Jeffrey Jackson back. But that's a thought, by the way, everyone, that I contemplate a lot. Hopefully we'll hold on to you
Starting point is 00:15:35 through this next section, Jeffrey. All right. So let's go, on top of what you're just saying, Let's go to ASIP slide. This is advisory committee on immunization practices. And this is it was published in the CDC's MMWR. It's kind of their in-house science journal. And they're looking at the pertusses vaccine, and they said this about it. They're looking at the studies and all the evidence. And they said this quote, another study that calculated Tdap vaccine effectiveness among adolescents found that within the first year after vaccination, effectiveness was 68.8%. By greater than or equal to four years after vaccination, vaccine effectiveness was 8%. 8.9%. 8.9%. That's what they're talking about here. You know, I wonder when I look at that, and I want to tell you this is a theory, folks. There are facts that we put out here. I'm sure New York Times
Starting point is 00:16:24 are going to say, dope. Bigtree said, but I wonder if it's possible when we see them saying that there's less pertussis right now circulating, that there's less vaccinations. Is it possible that maybe we get lucky that because these vaccines suck so bad and seem to wear off within for years that maybe as they wear off, maybe we get back our natural immunity and those kids that aren't haven't gotten it for the last several years because their parents are like, I don't know, I'm starting to question the system that maybe their bodies are starting to fight this better. I mean, that's my prayer, really, is that, and COVID, there was talk of how COVID maybe resets the immune system. There was some conversations about that in the science.
Starting point is 00:17:04 What we clearly know based on Boston universities, they don't know what they're talking about, But those are some theories of mine that maybe the fact that people are stopping vaccinating is why we're seeing a reduction in protustis. I mean, that's terrible, 8% protection within four years.

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