The Highwire with Del Bigtree - JONESING FOR TRUTH

Episode Date: September 16, 2022

Plandemic 3 Pre Launch Party!; Covid Shot Danger to Youth; A Look Inside ICAN Legal; The Premiere of ‘The Real Alex Jones’Guests: JP Sears, Mikki Willis, Alex Jones#Plandemic3 #P3 #MikkiWillis #TheRealAlexJonesBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are in the world. It's time for us all to step out onto what may be a very precarious high wire today. I have a gigantic show. Three of the most iconic individuals I think in the world when it comes to conversations about the pandemic. Today, in studio, Mickey Willis, who made Planned Demic. It's going to be talking about Planned Demic 3 is joining me. Also, J.P. Sears, a comedian that has come at this pandemic in so many different ways, he'll make your headsbin in studio. And then later on, my interview with Alex Jones.

Let me just say right up front as a caveat, just because these three individuals are all appearing at one time, a one show and one broadcasting moment, doesn't mean necessarily that they agree at all. Back, they may hate each other. I don't know. It could be a brawl later on in the show. We'll have to see. But the point being, today is a show about thinking for yourself and every one of these individuals clearly does that. And so with all that and all that aside, let's get this show underway. We have a major event that's coming up just around the corner.

Later on this year, Plandemic 3 will be released and is going to premiere right here on the Highwire. The Highwire is joining forces with Plandemic to make this the biggest event ever. We're very excited about it just to get you excited. Here's a taste of what that's going to be like. Let me hear it if you've had the Pfizer vaccine. Here from Madonna, Astrogenica, see it from the anti-vaxes. Build is one of the largest public education campaigns ever. President Biden's chief medical advisor says people need what he calls trusted messengers.

The White House has not recruited TikTokers, YouTubers and more. The ad counsel will be briefing influencers, including some very big celebrities on how to direct their followers to try. trusted vaccine contact. The goal convince Americans get the COVID vaccine. It's vaccination day. It's vaccination day. It's vaccination day! Today I get my COVID jab and I'm feeling really fab.

For months I have been waiting for this day. R-N-A-V-I-R-U-S-19 masked up with my team to smash back the disease and we dreamed about the day that we'd have a vaccine. Yeah, now that human-made miracle is finally here. Time to take a shot. It's Megan a Stallion, Ariana Grande, and Jimmy Fallon.

Y'all know what time it is. It's time to get those boosters. Ain't real like you need to fax that thing. You're feeling free. Your own leg, you can doax that thing. If you want to get sticky and hot, go, go, go, go, go get the shot. Grab your syringe would make sure you're clean it.

I'm sick it in it. me like you really have been asked me. He's getting so sexy to anaculate. Vaccine, Max, I come for vaccine. The doctor that was in charge of my case told me to get used to be in handicapped. Uh, which, excuse me. I never thought I would never be able

to get up and go to the bathroom. I took them to get the vaccine. That was the last time I spoke to. Family says the mother and grandmother was healthy was healthy before she got her shot and that her sudden death came as a shock. I was literally just following doctor's orders, following the government mandates and know this in my life. Now states and companies are going all out, providing incentives to those who have not been vaccinated. States are ramping up those incentives, everything from cash prizes to college scholarships.

New York State raffling off 50 scholarships to 12 to 17 year olds who get vaccinated. You worried about paying college tuition? Tell your 12 to 17-year-old, get a shot. Thousands of prizes available, including cruises and Super Bowl tickets. They're giving away Ford F-150 trucks. They're giving away shotguns and hunting rifles as well. Marijuana dispensaries are giving away joints for jabs. Crispy cream announcing this week a free donut.

And yes, free beers. That's right. Get a shot and have a beer. Today could be your lucky day if you've gotten at least one COVID vaccination shot. California's vaccine lottery. That's right. You could win $1 million. A million dollars. One grand winner to take home.

Up to $5 million if you get vaccinated next week. $5 million. You guys weren't expecting that one, were you? They made it exciting, right? There's a reason people go to Vegas. It really could be somewhat lucrative for them to get vaccinated if they aren't already persuaded. Just think of this when you think of vaccination. If you need luck with love, dating apps are offering incentives too.

We have finally found the one thing that makes us all more attractive, a vaccination. I don't mean to brag, but I want you to know, double-vaxed booster, never got COVID. Clearly, Jesus loves me the most. Comedian Heather McDonald collapsed over the weekend during a show. Her management saying she suffered a skull fracture in the fall. The CDC has confirmed higher than normal. cases of heart inflammation in 16 to 24 year olds. You take all of the vaccines since 2010. You compare 2021. This thing blows through the roof. 80% of the cases have been in young boys and

young men. I am in the hospital with heart complications from the COVID-19 vaccine. The 14-year-old's heart stopped. A 15-year-old boy died after receiving his first dose. 16-year-old was rushed to the hospital. Loved ones say the 17-year-old's heart stopped. The elite runner was rushed to the hospital after suffering a heart attack. The high school football player has died. Just hours after getting a second dose of COVID vaccine. After collapsing on the football field. After collapsing in the middle of the game. Collapsing during the game. Collapsing on the tennis court. Suddenly collapsing. The player collapsed and died. Died after collapsing. He collapsed. He collapsed. Seems that there's a second player who's collapsed. This is unusual. Never seen anything like this. Yeah. What's going on? Yeah, what's happening?

That is the big question. What caused this? There has been a sharp rise in unexplained deaths during the pandemic. The number of deaths with unknown causes has gone up over the last three years. Deaths that are not listed as COVID related. I'm sorry, I'm feeling really dizzy. Healthy young people are dying suddenly from a mysterious syndrome. Sudden adult death syndrome. Sadd is an umbrella term to describe unexpected deaths in young people. There is some evidence that some sort of delayed reaction to COVID. My son is dead because he took the vaccine. And to be heard and make things aware for others. So this doesn't happen to anyone.

else. We just want you guys to believe that this is real. We are real people experiencing these side effects. Breaking news from the FDA, which is just to prove the emergency use of the Pfizer vaccine for children ages 5 to 11. And we've already secured enough vaccine supply for every single child in America. A new proposal would allow children 12 and older get vaccinated with no parental consent. A mom in Louisiana plans to sue her son's high school after he was vaccinated at the without parental consent. Some new moms now quarantining from their newborns. By the end of this year, Dr. Fauci believes there will be a vaccine available for kids as young as six months.

And that means millions of young children can get their first dose right now. This is like a gift from God. Getting that shot really was an amazing feeling. It hits you. Nobody will be safe if not everybody is vaccinated. We've been patient, but our patients is wearing. soon. What is the problem? Get over it. Come on, people.

Just get the shot. It's what we've been. Hug your family. It's like to hug your family. Feeling so really. Just get a vaccination. Seeing all of those things together, amazing. It's my honor and pleasure to be joined right now by the director,

producer, creator of Plandemic, Mickey Willis. And, of course, you know, he speaks for himself, great comedian, you know, pioneer, J.P. Sears. Thank you, Del. Say more. It's real. I could go on and on. You know, the last time I think we were together was Washington, D.C., like standing on that incredible stage. So it's such an honor to have you guys in the studio. Great to be here. Thanks for having us, by. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, how, you know, through all this, things have been lightning up. I mean, you know, it just, you know, where do you find yourself now?

Just in this moment, are you hopeful? Are you, you know, nervous about the future? Yeah, you know, I'm all of those things. First off, I'll say personally, I have incredible hope in optimism because at times I'll get forgetful. I'll feel stressed, pessimistic, and I'll look at all the things what I will call the authoritarians have on their side. Yeah.

Big tech, governments of the world, pharmaceuticals and industries, trillions of dollars. But then I'll remember, oh yeah, we have God on our side. Amen. We have humanity on our side. And that alone gives me incredible optimism. I have so much faith in humanity. I see people all over the place waking up more in the past two and a half years

than they have in the previous 30 years. So I think we've got great momentum. And though there's serious things going on, I feel really good about our future. Great. How are you feeling? I feel the same way. Very optimistic and as I always say, it's going to get worse. So buckle up everybody. But it is going to get better. We are winning and it's clear by the way that they're coming after people. It's reached that point of desperation where when you see the mass censorship that's been happening around the world and the way they're shutting people down from even speaking about this. It shows that they're afraid of this narrative getting out, but they can't stop the people.

And that's one of the most beautiful things about this is it's not our government. It's really not the elected officials. It's not our protective agencies that are fighting this fight. It's the people. And you can't stop the people. I've said it before. When we look at world wars, it's always a group of nations against others or continents against other continents. We've never seen a moment where really this is a world war with virtually every government in one way or at least the health departments of the world going after their own people.

It's literally the people against the authoritarian government. And we're all aligned. I mean, what's amazing about this is every citizen is now brothers and sisters locking arms worldwide. Truly, you know, it's horrible what's happened. It's horrible the amount of carnage and pain. But as you said, J.P., there's something about this collective. moment right now the world standing together as citizens it's like nothing we've ever experienced yeah and you know i think the one thing they can't censor no matter how much they try is the truth that people

feel in their hearts in their beings maybe that comes from our soul god wherever it comes from there's a common truth that people resonate with and it's it's something that can guide people to say like oh that information that feels off that feels like propaganda which points them towards more helpful direction. When people are in touch with themselves, there's something that just can't be censored. And I personally think that's truth. And that's something that really unites a lot of humanity now. Yeah, truth has a certain ring to it. It's, it does. All right. So let's talk about Planned D. We've had you on before, obviously, you know, fellow filmmaker going way back. We've had discussions back. I was calling you for

advice when I was working on Vax. Then Planned Demic, your interview with you. Judy Mikevitz is just this massive, massive sensation. Billions. How many total views in the end? Over one billion, probably a billion and a half, something like that, of pandemic one, and a few hundred million of pandemic two. Incredible.

And I think, I feel like you kicked me off the throne. I was holding on to like the most censored film in history until you came along. So, you know, just like any great athlete, I just want to, like, I hand it off, I step aside, you know, I paved a new road, And then you just came in and went to a whole other level. Well, thanks for paving him out that row.

We couldn't have been there without you. So, Plandemic 2, massive sensation also. But now Plandemic 3. You know, first of all, you know, in so many ways, you branded this thing, right? I mean, you branded it Plandemic. You've even, you know, we've got White House press secretaries that can't keep out of the minds, like end up calling it Plandemic, just phenomenal moments like that. Why didn't you feel like you were finished after, you know, the second film?

Well, you know, there was a point when I really wished we were finished because I thought if we've done our job and everything is over, then let's move on to the next project. And it just, we're going to keep going until we know that we've done our work here and that it's over. And so pandemic two was kind of like a last minute of now that we're in this arena and this conversation, there's so much more to tell. let's now go on to patents and conflicts of interest and all the things that all the fact checkers wanted to avoid within pandemic one. So we expose that in pandemic two and also exposés about Bill Gates and the WHO and the CDC and all of that, that people needed to understand that these agencies that they think are there to govern our health and well-being, for the most part, in many cases, they're doing the opposite of that. And then I didn't know if there was going to be a pandemic three. But at the most, more I learned and the more highly intelligent people that I interviewed to really dig into

what's beyond COVID, what was COVID used for? You know, because that's really the question is, is this isn't about COVID, it's what it was used for. And when did that begin? And it's been a fascinating journey to go all the way back decade after decade to actually see that it has been a pandemic. It has been planned decades. A lot longer than just like, you know, 2018 going to 2018. Oh, it's shocking, and that's a lot of the stuff we're going to reveal in part three is really, it was written in manifestos in books and doctrines, and it was in bookstores in the 60s of this is what we're going to do. Wow.

And it's literally unfolded to the T. But when you see that historical data and those documents, at least it helped me, and I think it'll help the masses to understand how much of this was planned and how to avoid it from going any further and to avoid it from ever coming back in the future. the goal of Plandemic 3 is to wake everybody up to the big picture. I always say it's like that moment when Toto pulls back the curtain and exposes the little man behind the levers. It's like Plandemic 3, I hope will be the Toto that pulls back the curtains the people go, now I understand how you can manipulate so many good people. Because a lot of the doctors

who have done bad things are not necessarily bad people. They've been stuck in a system and incentivized to do something bad. And to understand. how they set this up and seated it. And it really follows the kind of the military war doctrine of Sun Tzu and the Art of War, where it's the feature enemy without fighting. Do it from the inside out, get into their minds, and make them fight each other. And that's what we're seeing right now in this country, believe it or not. JP, you're an individual out there that I think is, I mean, first of all, comedy holds you in a totally different space.

And in many ways, you have danced this line, you know, avoiding censorship, I think, through the use of comedy. But why did you decide to get involved in Plandemic? Because now that aligns you. You know, he's under attack. You're sitting here with me. I've been under attack. You know, why did you make the decision to be a part of Plandemic? Yeah.

Well, first off, I'd like to say hello to all our friends at the FBI watching. I'd see you guys. No, you know, to me, there's no choice of the men. On April 7th, 2020, I found out my wife was pregnant with her first child. Now he's a little over a year and a half old. And my son in the world in realizing my little boy, other people's children are their versions of my little boy. So when we're looking at the future that we're currently authoring

for our children and our grandchildren, it's a future where we know we'll either have to explain to them what freedom was or what mandates were. were. When I look at that choice, I know I have to push all my chips into the table in my own small little way to create the future for my children and other people's children that I want to see, one where they get to swim in their birthright of freedom. And looking at the personal risk, the professional risk that are associated, aligning with other truth seekers who give their earnest best effort to help people, it's absolutely a risk because I look at today being silent,

trying to play it safe is the most dangerous thing we could ever do. So I believe my children, everybody's children, we owe it to them to follow our call, to do our best, to bring the light of truth to people. And I'm so proud to know you guys, so proud to be associated. with y'all. Y'all inspire me on a daily basis. And it's just not a time to play it safe, in my opinion. Well, we have a clip from Plandemic where I think you really lay out comedy's effect here. So this is a clip of J.P. Sears in Plandemic 3. Why is comedy important? Comedy is the court jester. The purpose of the court jester in the kingdom is to help keep the king's ego in check. So the court jester,

is meant to point out the flaws, the holes in the king's actions and thinking so the king can laugh at that and say, I didn't see that before. My normal advisors can't tell me that because I cut their heads off. But you made me laugh so you can tell me things, dear court, Jester, that other people can't tell me. Now, a king that means well realizes, yeah, at times I get out of balance. I get egotistical, I become corruptible. So court jester, call me out. But a king who doesn't have the intention of serving his kingdom well, censored, de-platformed.

So we know who the kings and queens truly are based on their tolerance to have the court jesters around and laugh at themselves. And the more tyrannical the king gets, the more we need the court jester, I mean it's so true how much you know when you think about what JAP says there Mickey how much in com you know there is a sense of comedy like you're really playing on the farcical nature of what they did right they tried to make it playful and fun and musicals and using our artists you know did you do you think about sort of hitting back with that same tactic in Plandemic 3 that's exactly what we've done

yeah we've added a musical element to it we have songs that were written and performed and you know about the freedom-based songs to hopefully reactivate that dream in people, that remembrance of when those things were the most paramount goals for us to achieve. Right. And so, but yes, in many ways, we said, let's play the same game, just to put it back there

so they can see it. Like the opening there, the intro that you ran, it's so absurd, as you said, as we were watching it, as you see it together back to back. When you see one, it kind of blows your mind, but when you see the on, onslaught and the collection of all the ways they incentivize people. And then of course in the movie we'll go a little bit deeper to, you know, interview people

and talk with children who said, you know, the 10-year-old kids, I got the vaccine because I missed my friends and wouldn't let me see my friends without it. That kind of pressure just to even socialize, which is such an important part in the developmental process of a young person to do, to deprive them of that so that they can, you know, inject an experimental toxin into their body. and perhaps damage their organic immune system, their natural immune system, and it could affect their health for the rest of their lives. It was important to us to kind of put that back in their face and say,

this is how absurd it is. It has become this absurd where we have, you know, top celebrities that will just sell their soul. It's a totally untested product. Let's just put into perspective. Literally an untested pharmaceutical product by companies that pay out billions of dollars for lying about their safety. and this one never even went through a safety trial. So, I mean, really incredible moment in time.

And then we get the actual people that are at the helm of that agenda, Bricks and a lot of people that are coming out to say, well, we hoped it would work, and we're not sure that it did. We kind of knew that it wouldn't. Overplayed our hand. You know, and then you think, what about all these people who are out there that told everyone that it is the miracle?

It is the thing we've all, like those music videos, it's the thing we've all been waiting for. Oops, actually, we kind of knew it wasn't going to work. It really, hopefully that's, enough for people to just kind of get the lack of integrity of these individuals that they would set up a narrative and then back off of it later and say, oops, sorry, yeah, millions of people were damaged and who knows what the long-term effects are going to be. You know, we hoped it would work, but it didn't.

You don't ask somebody to put something into their bodies that you hope might work. You know, and so yeah, we're going to, you know, I've spent a lifetime in the arts and creative arenas and I've seen as a director. as a producer, I've been in boardrooms with ad agencies working out their manipulative, you know, psychological ways that they're going to capture the audience's attention. And that's really what it comes down to a message that I will convey in Plandemic 3 is this thing we call our attention is the rudder of our ship. And trillions of dollars are spent every year to capture our attention.

And once it's captured, then they can steer us and steer our life into whatever future they choose for us. And so it's very critical that we become the masters of our attention again, keep the will in our hands, and start to look at these billboards as these shiny lures that are just trying to get us to become consumers and forget what we truly are, which is creators. We're here to create. And so what are we creating in our lives right now? You know, because the consumption of everything has left us in this place. But what are we putting, what are we outputting? What is the creative spirit that needs to be awakened so we can create solutions to the problems we have right now? and start to look at the things that really matter again, like family, like God, like our relationships, and love. There's a big message in Plandemic 3 about love because it has been portrayed to be this kind of soft, fluffy thing. And it is the sharpest sword any warrior can ever wield. It is fierce and it is powerful and the power of love will overcome all the hate and division and evilness that we're experiencing right now. I have no doubt about that. When I look at this moment, it is so clear to me that we,

We won here. We won this battle. I mean, we took some, you know, some hard casualties, but we don't have vaccine passports. We don't have many of the things that they wanted here. They didn't reach the numbers they wanted. We, you know, we now have, I think, 30 percent, is the last I saw, 30 percent of people eligible for the booster of got it, meaning 70 percent of people that believed in the program that believed in the product are now denying what the CDC is recommending, showing,

and forget about, you know, the 30 percent that didn't get it at all, or those somewhere in between. But when I think about all the people, when we look at that gigantic machine that was built, the billions, literally billions of dollars spent to, you know, propagandize America, specifically, I think $4 billion to stop vaccine hesitancy. In some ways, I feel like at this table, a large part of the work to try and counterbalance that. And when we talk about attention and where we put our attention and our focus, JP, you have just disarmed millions of people through the use of comedy and giving us a different route in. You just can't say enough.

I just want people to get an experience. For those that maybe are watching this show and perhaps the five people out there that haven't seen your stuff, here is how J.P. Sears uses humor to help wake us up. Take a look at this. The World Economic Forum wants to control the world.

Not if we can help it. Hi, I'm with a Universal Economic Forum. For the longest time, the world economic forum has been without competition in the marketplace for enslaving humanity, and we're here to put an end to their pathetic reign of terror. And no, unlike the world economic forum, we don't want to control the world. That's child's play. We want to control the entire fucking universe.

Highlighting one of the biggest problems we see, it's clear the world economic forum is using a decades-long agenda to enslave humanity. And you know what? We think the people of the world deserve much better. that. So we're going to be doing it much faster. They say you'll own nothing and be happy about it by 2030, but with our better branding and global initiatives, our agenda will have you owning nothing by 2023 if you survive that long. And you know what? You won't be happy about it, but you're going to like it. Wow, Jamie. First of all, I love the outfit, you know. I mean, the vest, the tie, you know, imitation is the greatest, you know. That was a parody on you.

I'm flattery. I appreciate it. So how do you come up? How do you come up with the skits that you do and the pieces that you do? Yeah, I appreciate the question. And for me, it's like they write themselves. So my whole thing, what I like to use a language of comedy for is to expose lies, hypocrisies, and tyrannical behavior. And you look around in our world, and there's plenty of that to expose.

So I just look at the ridiculous things that are happening in the world, in this case the World Economic Forum. And these guys, it's so exaggerated. It's so absurd that it's like, well, that's almost comedy in and of itself. Now I just change the form of it, put a little spin on it. And hopefully that's something that people can see some lies, hypocrisies, and absurdities that these people who are out for their own sense of control, not the betterment of humanity in spite of their propaganda. Hopefully people can see that.

Was this a transformation for you? I mean, I'm assuming you've always been sort of political and pushing the edge on things, but this COVID thing brought a whole new, first of all, say the words, go against it, you know, even government saying we're going to call people terrorists, you know, that speak out in school board meetings and things like that. So, you know, the environment around which you were doing comedy, and I'll say this, honestly, comedy is almost completely dead.

I mean, we have lost, it is now illegal to have a sense of humor. We can't joke all the jokes for years, whether it was Eddie Murphy or whoever joking about race. And we can't laugh at ourselves anymore. Is that giving you more to work with, or are you really finding yourself confined to what was that transformation life? Yeah, you know, I think comedy it is on life support, and that's our own fault. I think the reason is good comedy, it has to have the number one comedic principle, and it has to be based on truth, the truth principle. From there, you can exaggerate, it's fun, but it has to be based on truth.

Now what, you know, if you turn on TV, Saturday Night Live, most of that comedy doesn't have the truth principle. It has the narrative principle. So it doesn't resonate deep in the soul of people because the soul of people has truth in it. That's what we need to access. And there's certainly some comedians who are very committed to the truth principle, whether they're out, you know, crusading for freedom or they're just like, hey, I'm going to write a new comedy bit. And then there's many other comedians who, no judgment, but they're backing down from it.

they're cowering down in the face of what could happen. What if cancel culture gets me? What if I'm blacklisted because I'm not purporting the narrative? And for me, the transformation has been very stark. I was never into politics until 2020 when freedom became a political issue. Like in America? Like, how is freedom a political issue? But as I mentioned earlier with a son coming into the world, I didn't realize freedom was my number one value until it started getting taken away.

I know about history. I know where it'll go. And I've got little boy coming into the world. So it's been quite a transformation, going from making jokes about gluten and coconut oil and the spiritual life all fun to now what honestly for me feels like it's propelled me deeper into my manhood. and deeper in a purpose where I want to represent and stand for freedom, and that happens to now be largely in the arena of politics, pharmaceuticals, propaganda. So that's just where I've won, and I'm proud to go there. Well, I'm proud to know you. It's been amazing watching you on that journey,

and no one has, I think, danced it more delicately and brilliantly and powerfully. It's really, truly spectacular. All right. So let's get down. to it this Friday come tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow we're going to be standing on a stage here in Austin Texas there's still the ability for people to come see us all live as you and you're going to be revealing some never-before-seeing footage of the upcoming pandemic three so just talk by that event for a minute so we have what is called our pre-launch party tomorrow in Austin Texas and

as Dell mentioned the three of us will be on stage together and it's really a way to bring the community together to raise funds for something I'm very excited about and that is our partnership. So we've decided when we launched Plandemic 1, it was just really on my Facebook page. And then part two was launched through Brian Rose's show. And I couldn't be more delighted that we've done this partnership now. And everyone will see Plandemic 3 here live first on the high wire. And so it's to raise awareness around that.

And it's also to raise the funds so we could afford to do our big People who really know how expensive it is, even right now. I mean, honestly, you have no idea what it costs just to stream live to, you know, millions of people at one time. It's, you know, it has a cost to it, which is something that we're not charging people. We don't care about that. That's right. But we are setting up a system for people so that we know that you care, and if you want to know where things are going, we want your email. And so, you know, if you email us right now, you can have the link.

Let's bring up the flyer right here. We can talk about. This is the Highwire, the Great Awakening, Pandemic 3 pre-launch party. There it is. You can sign up. You just go to the highwire.com slash p3 party. What this does is not only are you going to be aware of the party, we are actually going to stream that party live.

And some of the footage there are going to get to see us speaking about this incredible film coming up. But once your email is in there, everything Plannedemic 3 coming up, the hints at when it's going to open when that date is coming, which is just down the road, and the ability to then to be a part of that viewing audience that gets to watch it for the first time. All of that is made possible. So all you have to do is go to the highwire.com slash p3 party and put your email in there. Obviously, everything's encrypted in the work that we do.

Your email won't be shared anywhere, but you just bought a ticket to, I think, what's going to be the biggest film event in world history. It's pretty exciting. And then this Friday, any idea what you're going to be talking about on Friday? No, no. All right, me neither. I'll figure it out between now with that. Sorry, Mickey.

Totally unrehearsed. But what I do know is it'll be such a joy to be there with other like-hearted people who care about freedom, who care about truth. Being a part of experiences like that and Mickey bring people together like no one else, it just fills me up. And one thing I've learned the past two years is we need each other. We need to come together, be united, and we need reminders. Not only are we not the only one who cares about truth and freedom. But we're actually the majority. So I'm really looking forward to experiencing more of that amongst the other surprises tomorrow night.

What are your last thoughts on where you're at? I mean, you've been buried in editing, maybe. It's like drag you out. I mean, no one's like coming into like the crunch on a film here. Well, we actually have three movies in production right now. One that we just finished last month. So that's out in the world. But we have a movie called Safe and Effective coming out.

We have a movie called Bad Medicine coming out. And Safe and Effective is pretty self-explanatory. it's really about the damage that vaccines have done. Bad medicine is about some of the horror stories that have happened in hospitals and to really warn the world of the protocols and incentives that have been set up that have made some hospitals very dangerous for people to go to and what the alternative solutions are. We're committed right now to not putting anything out in the world that doesn't,

they just further terrorizes people that really offers a solution. And then, of course, we have pandemic three and we're working really hard. It's a beast. And so when people ask me about the release date, I've already had two dates that I announced and then we had to back off of that because it's really a very complicated narrative that I'm committed to getting right and for it to really be a map to guide us out of this situation. And so we're working really hard on that and I couldn't do it without my incredible team and all the people that have stepped up to support and all the people that have donated out there.

For the past two and a half years, I've had no job that makes any money. So everything has been off donations from the people. I just want to say thank you for the people who have supported us out there. You're really the ones who've allowed us to produce all the films that we've produced, even the small ones that we have out there. If you haven't seen The Truth About Ivermectin, please check that out because that's a narrative that we really need to correct out in the world. With flu season coming up and all the different variants and things that people are afraid of,

it's really important that your family and friends and loved ones that have bought into this narrative that Ivermectin is only a horse dewormer. Watch the truth about Ivermectin. It's on PlandemicSeries.com, and then there's a page called The Truth About Ivermectin.com where you can actually see another version of the video. And I recommend the place on there that my family gets ivermectin from, which is some of the best quality and delivered to our door. So I invite people to check that out.

But spread that film around because it will literally save lives. Yeah, amen. You've done such incredible work. So again, I want to thank you for joining me today. I'm going to let you guys get back to your lives. And so I just want to say to all of you out there, look, if you're in the Austin area, if you're in Texas or anywhere near here, don't you want to be in a moment where our communities all come together? It's going to be a spectacular event. So all you have to do is go to thehighwire.com.

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So let's be a part of that all together. I need to say one thing before we go, because you've showered us with compliments and gratitude. And I wouldn't be here if it weren't for people like you, Delved it paved the way. And the work that you've done to keep comedy alive, I'm so honored to call you my brothers and my friends and the brave work that both of you have done. I just appreciate you so much. And our partnership is something very meaningful. Group hug.

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All right. It's time for none other than the Jackson Report. All right. Jeffrey Jackson, you know, a little brofess going on here, wish you could have gotten in the group hug, but you're a part of that too, man. Couldn't do it without you either. So what's happening this week? Thanks, Del. And, you know, the importance of the news report here at this point in human history cannot be expressed enough. We've shown the fraud behind the digital passports, the digital vaccine passports and the threat to human liberty those proposed. We showed the big tech censorship. to humans to speech during the COVID crisis. The machine learning algorithms they were using to really point people out and just yank their accounts and shadow ban people. But what we're sitting on right now is the precipice of what the World Economic Forum in Klaus Schwab calls the fourth industrial revolution. And this is something that no one voted on.

The citizens weren't asked what they wanted to, how they wanted to take part in this. This is kind of being foisted upon us. And they're players in this space like Elon Musk. He's the CEO of Tesla, also co-founder of NeuroLink. We have YOLF Harari. He's a W-E-F advisor, a professor of history. Let's take a look at what the people in this space are talking about. Just in case you haven't seen it.

Take a listen. You're working to build basically an interface to the brain. Yeah. Electrode to neuron interface at a micro-level. Okay, what is it? I'm going to have like a plug in my head that's going to fit into a hard drive? Like, how does that work? Yeah, yeah.

A chip and a bunch of tiny wires. This would be implanted surgically. And it would do what could you input? Could you download Jim? Mm-hmm, yes. The long-term aspiration with neurolinguance would be to achieve a symbiosis with artificial intelligence. What we have seen so far, it's corporations and governments collecting data about where we go, who we may. meet, what movies we watch.

The next phase is the surveillance going under our skin. COVID is critical because this is what convinces people to accept, to legitimize total biometric surveillance. One of the things that I think is so essential to free and open societies is freedom of thought. And up until now, the conversation we've been having is around freedom of speech. Once we can access people's spots and access people's emotions, We have to create a space that enables people to think freely. The idea of accessing people's thoughts like Minority Report, you know, getting arrested for your thoughts and the things that you might be thinking, we are we are not in a movie anymore, are we?

Surveillance underneath our skin sounds great. Right. Awesome. Line starts behind me. Now, what would be really scary, these are people theorizing about this. We have obviously Elon Musk that has product. he's working on. But what would be really scary is if governments got involved with this. And that's exactly what happened in the United States. We have Joe Biden signing an executive order

just recently, and this is what it was called, executive order on advancing biotechnology and biomanufacturing. This is at the White House website, innovation for a sustainable, safe, and secure American bio economy. Now, when you read the mainstream reporting on this, it lays out these broad goals to beef up the biotech supply chain in the U.S. and the manufacturing industry. When you look at this executive order, you start reading the actual text of it. Take a look at what this says. I'm going to read it right here. For biotechnology and biomanufacturing to help us achieve our societal goals,

the United States needs to invest in foundational scientific capabilities. We need to develop genetic engineering technologies and techniques to be able to write circuitry for cells and predictably programmed biology in the same way in which we write software and program computers. Unlock the power of biological data, including through computing tools and artificial. intelligence. There's those words again. We want to control biology. I mean, I just read that. And I think, you know, I remember when Zuckerberg was on, you know, the stand in front of it, was the Congress of the Senate. And not to, you know, be, talk about age, but just watching all these senators and congressmen and women that are in age where they barely know how to use

email, trying to understand the power of social media. When I read that, I mean, you know, technology in cells and AI, and I imagine Joe Biden signing this thing, there is no part of me that thinks he has any understanding of what he just signed and how terrifying the power of that signature is by a man that does not even know what the heck we just read there. It's really, it's really shocking. Absolutely. And to look no further than the prepositioning coming in the headlines, in 2016, Elon Musk co-founded a technology company called Neurrelink. So shortly after you, started seeing headlines like this. Elon Musk unveils brain chip implant. It's like a fit bit in your skull. And just in the beginning of 2022 here, this is the headline. Elon Musk says NeuroLink

hopes to start implanting brain chip in humans in 2022 later than he anticipates. We're we supposed to be off and running on this thing. So what we've done really is race past what we have been told of the internet of things, you know, smartphones, smart thermostat, smart meters. And there's a section of society now pushing the internet of bodies. And again, no input from the general public. You're not having these elected officials vote on this. These are just, you know, really these ultra wealthy people kind of just going for it. And there's conversations that are also happening around this too. So we have a major, one of the top law professors in Australia is kind of theorizing, well, what's this going to do to law, this biotechnology advancement? And it's responsible for this headline.

I take a listen to this. This is out of the sun. Future criminals could be monitored by chips in their brains, experts claim. And so this thing is shaking up every section of society with these conversations. And really looking at what we just experienced from governments, from big tech, and what they showed us during the COVID pandemic of how they censored people that didn't agree with certain narratives. The question for society is, do we really want to give further control to a similar class of people, often the same class of people, to have technology within our bodies.

That is a conversation that we need to be a part of. That quick answer. No. How about that? How about that? No, not down, not in. Absolutely insane. And it's really what this all comes down to, right? Is this battle now for humanity? You know, I was thinking about as we were talking about this story earlier this week, remember the old story of John Henry growing up. I don't know how many people remember that, you know, legend of John Henry, you know, who could, you know, cut through a coal mine fast, and then the big machine comes in. It's the story about how he races the machine, and it really feels like in many ways that sort of metaphorical story we're now experiencing in that. It is between

AI and humanity and some group trying to mix the two really crazy times. And the fact that the president is now sort of signing off billions of dollars of our government, the same government that want to track us through cell phones. Now they want to get under our skin and even into our brains. Man, I mean, as J.P. Sears was just saying, and, you know, I think about my children. And that has got me getting up very early every morning thinking about what can I do to stop this. So right. And since we're talking about what we've been told was advanced technology being given to the public, we can now hit MRNA vaccines, specifically the booster. So last week you covered how the new Omicron boosters were raced through the FDA.

EPA's EUA process and now being put out into the public on basically the strength of a study of eight mice that was public. No human trials, no human data, essentially. Let's check in from that time till now and see how the public messaging is going. Take a listen to Dr. Fauci. When you have a updated vaccine that serves as a boost as it were, and it's directed against the dominant circulating strain that's in society, you have every reason to believe that that is going to be better than having a vaccine that isn't highly specific to the circulating strain.

It hasn't been proven in a clinical trial because we don't have time to do a clinical trial because we need to get the vaccine out now because we have such a situation throughout the world and certainly in the United States. I mean, we talked about this last week. We talked about this really every week, but it's amazing this idea that, and what I want people to focus on, they keep talking about efficacy, right?

They want you thinking about, we have every reason to believe that if we attack Omicron, the vaccine will be better at doing what's doing than using the old one. Well, the old one sucked against the virus that it was trying to stop, didn't do it. Everyone's gotten sick. three times. More and more studies showing you're going to get sick more often if you get the

vaccine. But where's the safety, right? We skipped all the safety trials, which is what, we've always been focused on the high wire. I don't care about efficacy. Is this thing safe? We have absolutely no idea. Now, now based on the fact that you skip the safety trials calling an emergency use authorization, then as soon as you got that authorization, you erased your entire placebo group by saying, hey, it'd be unethical to not have them get the vaccine. So you knew what you were doing. You erased that group. And now we're just going to say, hey, we don't have time to do safety studies at the next ones, and we're going to run off of the science that was done in the first ones, which was none, no science.

And this thing is out of control, folks. This is what New York Times, Washington Post, I hope you realize this is what I've been arguing with about. When you're attacking me, when you're interviewing me, I said, do you really want to live in a world where there's no safety studies going on? And here we are. Thank you. All of you pundits and news anchors out there that push this upon us.

We now have pharma running completely out of control with the government doing their bidding, No safety trials doesn't matter, and everyone's just going to get lined up and more and more mandates on the way. It's absolute insanity. So, all right. Continue. And, okay, so if you remember, in August of last year, we had Marion Gruber. She's the now former FDA's director of the FDA's Office of Vaccine Research and Review. 32-year veterans stepped down because the FDA and the Biden administration were pushing through boosters, the first of the boosters, without proper.

data and at that time you saw the media actually it was it was a different spin for the media because they actually turned to criticize the vaccine programs something we've really never seen before from american media this was what the headlines looked like back then it says here scientists blast u.s. push for COVID vaccine booster shots is premature say data isn't compelling and then we go a couple months later November experts criticize CDC's language on COVID vaccine boosters they're trying to say well safe and effective and the studies show and experts are saying what's what studies we're talking about. And in September, here's another one. Biden faces booster plan blowback at home and abroad. Now, just this week, the headlines are looking the same from this Amacron booster.

U.S. criticized for rolling out COVID boosters without human trials. We're kind of becoming a laughing stock of the world here. Financial Times, I think for the work where do. I feel like this could have all been missed, but now financial, these are, this is mainstream folks. You know, this has gotten so bad, even people that were promoting this thing are saying, whoa, hold on a second. I didn't see this Tommy, this is ridiculous. Right. And so they're given, I mean, we're basically looking at eight mice, basic, basic data. That's not really fully transparent to the United States.

So Fauci admitted it. Let's take a look at what Rochelle Wenski, CDC director, is saying, how is she going to message this train wreck? Take a listen. Dr. Paul Lothad, an infectious disease and vaccine expert at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. He's also a member of the FDA Advisory Committee has been critical of this updated booster. he says that a healthy young person really is unlikely to even benefit from a booster dose. It should be targeted more specifically to those who really are most likely to benefit. And I wonder if you agree with that assessment and whether just even saying that adds to what's been, as you know, an ongoing criticism of CDC messaging that COVID vaccines, COVID itself, the messaging has been confusing.

So first, deep respect to Dr. Offutt. Here's what I will say about our updated, vaccine. We are simplifying our message. The message is you need to get your fall booster vaccine. So go ahead and get it. If you're over the age of 12, if you've received your primary series, if you're more than two months out of your last shot, you can get an updated vaccine. And so we've intentionally simplified the message, so it's very, very clear. Amazing when you find yourself in a moment where the highway is now aligned with Paul Offutt, who is saying, are you people out of your bloody minds? There is no science behind this. You know, mad props, she says, out to Paul Oppit, but we're going ahead with a homogenized one-size-fits-all for everyone in the country.

A total non-answer. It's going to be interesting to see how long Wollinsky lasts at the CDC with this type of messaging. But let's take a look at what this simple-minded messaging that she talks about looks like. So you can look no further than the FDA's own webpage. They've become vaccine promoter now. Don't be shocked, they say. You can now recharge your immunity hashtag with an updated COVID-19 booster. and now you're basically a battery.

Your health is simply a battery to be recharged by a pharmaceutical product. You're walking Tesla. You're a Tesla automobile eventually. Forget about it. God forbid the electricity doesn't work. You know, no Tesla in this case. Sorry, you know, that juice didn't work. You know, no recharging your immunity in California, apparently.

So let's keep looking at the FDA's Twitter account. Here's another one. It's time to install that update. Update your antibodies hashtag with a new COVID-19 booster. So now your antibodies. your health is basically like an iPhone app to install. But it's really AI, isn't it? I mean, when you're thinking about that, they're all, I'm not even sure we thought about

this. When you put your last, you know, the last conversation we just had about AI into this, they're literally getting to think of ourselves as electronic robots, right? Charge ourselves up, reboot, you know, rehab, you know, all these things, get, you know, upgrade your software. I mean, it really, it's all a part of the same thinking. You've got to see how they're putting these things together. Yeah, the messaging is.

is merging lanes right now. It's very, very clear. And this is why, again, we are reporting on this infrastructure that has kind of been pushed through with the pandemic, with the vaccine. But it leads, there's such a tail, long tail on this infrastructure that's being pushed in while that door's open. And we have to pay attention to this.

So while the CDC, the FDA are really just accepting non-studies on mice, there are actual people out there doing real studies, doing real reanalysis of the data, Peter Doshi and his colleagues have done an amazing study that just came out this past week. And this is a secondary analysis of the phase three clinical trials from Pfizer-Moderna. And it's titled, Serious Adverse Events of Special Interest Following M-R-N-A vaccination and Randomized Trials. He says, this is what they looked at. He says, in the Pfizer trial, 52 adverse events of serious interest, that's AESI, 27.7 per 10,000 were reported in the vaccine group.

And 33, 17.6 for 10,000 in the placebo group. This difference corresponds to a 57% increase of adverse events of serious interest. He didn't hear that in the news. Moderna, same thing. In the Moderna trial, he writes, 87 serious adverse events of special interests, 57.3 per 10,000 were reported in the vaccine group in 64, 44, 42.2 per 10,000, the placebo group. This difference corresponds with 36% increase risk of serious adverse events of special interests.

Now, here is the key finding. He writes this. In the Moderna trial, the excess risk of serious adverse events of serious interest 15.1 per 10,000 participants surpass the risk reduction for COVID-19 hospitalization relative to the placebo group. Goes on to say the same thing about Pfizer in the Pfizer trial. That excess risk of the serious adverse events 10.1 per 10,000 surpasses the risk reduction of COVID-19 hospitalization.

So basically, you know, more people were getting harmed by the vaccine than those that were being kept out of the hospital. So when we talk about a risk-reward ratio, which is how we've got to decide whether we move forward with a product, at least until this moment, in time, the history of medicine is you failed the test. You failed the placebo test.

You didn't beat the placebo. Now your product is actually more dangerous, more dangerous than not getting it at all. Exactly. And remember, transmissions out the window. They're not even trying to defend that hill anymore. Infection out the window. So hospitalizations, what we've been dangled in front of our face,

least it keeps you out of the hospital, but he's saying, no, it does not. It does not. And so it concluded in this study, this full transparency of the COVID-19 vaccine clinical trial data is needed to properly evaluate these questions. Unfortunately, well over a year after widespread use of COVID-19 vaccines, participant-level data remains inaccessible. Remember, we were promised transparency before these things rolled out. And we're seeing here basically a year later, two years later, with respected researchers, saying we still don't have access to the individual participant trial to data to reanalyze this. So what he's saying is we need that data to do a harm benefit analysis. And that is exactly what has.

And let's hand that data to all the greatest scientists around the world, not those that sold us this product, not those that are covering their butts. Every single scientist that wants to look at it, let's go ahead and have the scientific method take place worldwide and get to the bottom of what this data actually tells us. Not let Pfizer do it anymore by themselves or Moderna. Let's take it outside to private groups. So important. Right. And yes. And right now, as we speak, colleges out there, Harvard, UC Davis, countless others are threatening to disenroll students if they don't get the third shot. They don't get a booster on top of their primary series.

So now we have, we have scientists, Marty McCari, Johns Hopkins, Vinnie Prasad, Tracy Hogue. They have come out with a study. and they have done a harm, a risk-benefit analysis on the booster shot in college kids. This is the study here. This is an incredible study, COVID-19 vaccine boosters for young adults, a risk-benefit assessment and five ethical arguments against mandates at universities. And they say this, using CDC and sponsor-reported-reported means Moderna and Pfizer's own data. We find that booster mandates may cause a net-expected harm per COVID-190. 19 hospitalization prevented and previously uninfected young adults. We anticipate 18 to 98 serious

adverse events, including 1.7 to 3.0 booster associated myocarditis cases in males in 1,373 to 3,234 cases of grade 3 or higher retrogenicity, which interferes with daily activities. Remember, grade 3, retrogensity is basically prevents daily routines, activities. Grade 4 puts you in the hospital, or the ER. So they're looking at those specifically for these college students in this estimate. And they say this, kind of a similar conclusion of what Doshi found in his reanalysis. They say based on public data provided by the CDC, we estimate that approximately 22,000 to 30,000 previously uninfected young adults age 18 to 29 years must be boosted with an MRI vaccine to prevent one COVID-19 hospitalization. Given the fact that,

that this estimate does not take into account the protection conferred by prior infection with natural immunity, nor a risk adjustment for comorbidity status. This should be considered a conservative and optimistic assessment of benefit. And they basically go on to say this is ethically unjustifiable given the fact that these kids really can't, there's no compensation program that's properly in place. It's broken. They can't sue for any serious harms from these vaccines. This is a pretty interesting study because they use the data- but they also go into ethics.

And the group that's now still in harm's way of mandates that are happening, maybe not publicly, but privately in these universities and institutions, so many people worried about where their kids are going to college and feel helpless under these circumstances. So it's great that the science is being done to reveal this. And of course, you know, we will have our legal team, I'm sure, bringing cases against these universities

using this science as just part of the argument. And if the audience is starting to catch on here, there is a tempo, happening. The scientific community is finding some really inconvenient truths and they're being emboldened to actually talk about those now. So here's one more study we're going to cover before we leave. This is the headline, the shock headline, COVID vaccine destroys natural immunity. New England Journal of Medicine study shows. And this is a study here, effects of vaccination and previous infection on Omicron infections in children. Now these are children five to 11 years old. And we're going to

We're going to tell this story by the actual graphs and charts from the study itself. So we're going to look at this first graph here. This was looking at Pfizer's vaccine only in 5 to 11 year olds. And you can see here the effectiveness of the BNT 162B2, that's Pfizer's vaccine against infection, according to date of first dose. So each one of those lines is basically just according to when these kids receive their first dose of the Pfizer vaccine. And you can see here, they get their first dose, November, January, December, and it spikes up there. and then it starts dropping down really fast, like a ski slope. Everyone is a ski slope.

I'm shocked when I see these lines going below the dotted line, and that's a lot of what we reported. Some were not in the timeline yet to see it. But in all of these cases, these charts mean that eventually, you know, if you got it in November, by April, you are now at an increased risk of catching the illness after vaccination, right? And that's what that means. Once it's below that zero line, we are not.

moving into a place of increased infection or negative efficacy. Something we've shown a lot, but it's one of the best charts I've seen sort of laying that out and showing us what's happening here. Yeah, very perceptive. That is the takeaway from that chart. So now we go to another chart from the same study. And this is the effectiveness of previous infection. So natural immunity against reinfection among unvaccinated children.

So the kids never had a vaccine touch them. And you can see it's not dropping that fast. You can see the ski slope there is not really ski slope. It's kind of just like a moderate hill. It's going down. And you're not going to negative effectiveness. You're not going anywhere close to zero. You're stopping at the lowest in the 50s, mid-50s.

But now we get to the really interesting data. So you give kids with natural immunity a shot and their defense against. Just to be clear, they've already been infected. They've already been infected. They now have natural immunity, which we just saw on that chart, which is way better than what the vaccine was creating. That's diving down to negative pretty quick within six. months. This is holding pretty strong. So we take that natural immune group and we give them a vaccine, correct? Right. Absolutely correct. And this is the guidance that health authorities have said if you

have if you've been infected, you still should get the vaccine for extra protection. So this is a study five to 11 year olds. You give the kids the shot that have already had natural immunity. I've already had the infection. And you can see this. Their defense against what infection plummetes. Effectiveness of previous infection against reinfection among vaccinated children. is the title of this chart. And you can see here, you're just going straight down to zero. The Omicron variant is in the red. That starts plummeting down.

But you notice they cut it off in May. The earlier chart, when it went through May, showed negative efficacy. So it's interesting they cut it off there. But that's what it's showing here. And, you know, we've reported on mechanisms that could potentially drive, drive the immune system of people to be damaged to hyper focus on one variant and leave out other variants, not being able to see the other variants. So this goes along with the theoretical data of previous studies that have shown that these vaccines may actually harm your immunity

and make it less able to target the new variants that come along. And it's really been one of the biggest conversations you and I and our team has been having behind closed doors, which is we see that the natural immunity just so far outperforms the vaccinated immunity. It's off the charts. The vaccinated are now getting sick two, three times with COVID. But the question has always been, does that natural immunity hold strong if they're vaccinated again? Does that natural immunity? Is that what persists? Or do you erase it and then go to the less effective vaccinal immunity? And now it's clear it's erasing your natural immunity. and now you're back on that freight train into negative efficacy.

Wow. I mean, how many, I mean, so on the one side, they decided to give out the vaccine on a study of eight mice, the world's resting on that. How many people were in this study? How big was this study that was done? They looked at over 800,000 kids, and then they kind of whittled that down to who was vaccinated,

who was not vaccinated, who took one dose, who took what vaccine. And that, so that's a very large. Hundreds of thousands versus, humans versus eight mice, is what our government decided to push forward with our vaccine program here in the states. It's out. It's just it's a disgrace. And you have to wonder, have this is a study that's obviously come out to the public. What have government's been briefed on in the background? Because these are the headlines we're seeing here out of the UK just recently.

Children turning five won't be eligible for the jab unless they're at high risk. And so this is, this is in alignment with what the Scandinavian countries have already done. UK is actually late to the party here. Take a look at this vaccine map. This is what basically the recommendation. So in the red, you're seeing Sweden, Denmark, UK, no longer offering vaccination to five to 11-year-olds that are non-high risk. That means the general population. And then in orange, we have Norway and Finland not recommending the vaccine.

So basically their health authorities are saying you can get them if you want, but we aren't putting our recommendation behind it. And just a side note, Denmark just announced that they're not offering the boost. to under 50s unless you're at high risk. So that's a big move from Denmark that just happened as well. I feel like Denmark might be watching the high wire, you know, and getting some of their information. You know, and I want to put out there that, you know, you see these nations, you think, like, where's England?

Like, where are those superpowers in this? You know, here in the United States of America, we only have one leader that I think should be put on that chart, and that's Ronda, Santa, Florida, you know, because we had, you know, Surgeon General of Florida, Joseph Lattapo, on our show, saying we have gone against the vaccine for children, we don't believe, you know, we're showing that it's more dangerous. So I think, you know, there's a little piece of America that's at least

thinking clearly on this subject too. Yeah. And speaking of our international viewers that potentially may be watching the high wire, let's take a look in New Zealand really quick. So remember, New Zealand had a zero COVID policy. That was basically one of the most authoritarian restrictions that they had masking, vaccine mandates, travel restrictions, quarantine centers outside of China. They were competing with China for the most authoritarian lockdown measures. And we covered the protests. We covered the people. Zero COVID being, you know, if there's one case, lock everybody down. Like, I mean, total insanity and, you know, hypochondria at a level that's never been seen before. Right. And just in case anybody forgot or wanted to forget, this is what their,

Prime Minister Jacinda Arden sounded like during those times she seemed pretty emboldened take a look all right So you basically said this is going to be like almost like you probably don't see it like this are two different classes of people if you're vaccinated or if you're unvaccated you have all these rights if you are vaccinated that is what it is so yep yep and actually we have managed very high vaccination rates generally without the use of certificates but actually what it's become clitorome is that they're not just a tool to drive. drive up vaccines, they're a tool for confidence. People who have been vaccinated will want to know that they're around other vaccinated people. They want to know that they're in a safe environment. You know what they actually decided is that they're a tool for segregation and that's what I really love about it. You know, there's people that have been vaccinated and they want to hate on those that

haven't. So we want to be able to have them separate out and maybe even just beat the crap out of that group that didn't get it and we'll look the other way. I mean, it's if it was on any other topic, And when you think about these statements being made, anything else that you were talking about, it would be so unacceptable. She would be marched out of position by every leader around the world, except on this issue, oh, it's perfectly okay to discriminate and segregate. It was horrible. It was absolutely.

And it's interesting because we have to wonder now, who got in her ear? What data did she see? Because this is what she sounds like now. Take a listen. All right. People will use masks through their own individual reasons. They may personally be vulnerable. They may have events.

I want to make sure they're not unwell for. They may not have had COVID-19. We all just need to respect everyone's individual decisions. Wow. She's going to respect everybody's individual decisions now that the vaccine is a total failure. And even though you forcibly vaccinated, everybody got in super high rates, it didn't get the job done. Zero COVID dies.

Welcome to Team Humanity. It must feel good, Jacinda. So no more mask, man. mandates ending this month, vaccine mandates ending, travel mandates to and from the country ending. They're trying to reboot their economy here. It's a glorious time in New Zealand, and it's interesting because this is one of the last big countries, the dominoes, the fall on these really absolutely authoritarian dictates that were happening around this pandemic. So this is a celebratory event.

And, you know, our hearts and best wishes are to the people of New Zealand in rebuilding their country, their economy, their families, and their communities after this. Wow. And obviously, you know, a leader that is going to try and scrape together whatever respect she has and hold on to that place in office. Hopefully, she will be moved on and people will not forget what happened there. But it's great to see it, you know, around the world, our own CDC, the same thing, opening up, saying essentially what I had said, you know, at the beginning of this. There are those that at risk, the high risk group, we should protect them. We should, you know, take care of them. But those of us that are healthy enough, we got

got to go out and catch this cold. Now all around the world, they've come to that decision that we have no other choice. So incredible. What an amazing journey we've been on. Of course, we're all looking forward to Plandemic 3, seeing how this happened, how we're going to avoid having this happen again. Jeffrey, great reporting. As always, thank you so much for that work. All right, Tal. Thank you. All right. See you next week. And for everybody watching for the first time, and I think many of you are because of my guest that's just right around the corner. I just want to say that we practice something here that we have called the High Wire Protocol, which is total transparency and news, everything that you've just seen, all the studies that you've just seen,

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and I know you're watching, you get to really challenge me and say, did that get cherry-paker? Is that what this study says? because it is important that we all get better at critical thinking. This show has never been about telling you what to think. It's about how to think. Where do we get our information? It's all about challenging where that information comes from.

That's why I'm putting it in your hands. All right. Before I get to this interview right around the corner with Alex Jones, a huge victory this week. For many of you that know, one of the things that informed consent action network does, which is our nonprofit that makes this show possible as we have a powerful legal team.

run by Aaron Siri and his staff of some of the greatest lawyers in the country fighting for our rights, fighting against vaccine mandates. And one of the things we've been fighting for is transparency. Now, many of us know about the VAIR system, the vaccine adverse events reporting system. That's the public system that you can report your vaccine injury too. But every time it's addressed, every time we've looked at these numbers that have been off the charts, the deaths of the highest reports here it is that we've ever seen, 30,000 deaths. 30,796 reported deaths from this vaccine alone. We've never seen numbers like that.

Just exponentially worse than any vaccine we've ever seen. The hospitalizations, the antiphylaxis, the hospital visits. There it is. But when you bring up bears, they'll say, well, veres is a passive reported system. You know, people can report themselves that we've shown you basically that's rarely ever how it's done. But they poo poo bears. They want to think, well, it's underreported.

Instead, they've been talking about this V-Safe program that they started just for COVID. This was, once you get the vaccine, go ahead and sign up to the V-SAFE system so we can track your health. And this is directly through the CDC. This is supposed to be where they're looking for all of their information. And once again, like everything else, we FOIA. We use Freedom of Information Act request. We use our legal team and said, we want to see the data that you've now collected in V-Safe. And they came back.

They said, we're not going to give it to you. On behalf of my K&UZWIP, please provide the following records via email, produce all data submitted to be safe and subsequently de-identified by the CDC and or Oracle, which is the system that they're using from January 1st, 2020 forward, all documents concerning safe data, including but not limited to policies, procedures, processes related to B-Safe and communications regarding same, all de-identified data submitted to B-Safe since January 1st, 2020. I have to tell you that when you're fighting these cases, they'll come back and say, well, we can't give up the identity of these people, which is why we can't share it.

with the public and other scientists. And our legal team is called baloney on that and said, by the way, that data has already been de-identified because we're seeing studies being done on it from different regulatory agencies and others. So you've already done that work. You've already separated out the identities. So there's no information that can go against any person in this country.

Hand it over now. And under court order that has finally taken place, our lawyers at ICANN are now, have gotten a, court order that VSAFE data, the tens of millions of people and their information that is in there is now going to be coming to us. So again, here it is. This is the legal update. It was sent to you. You would know about if you were on our email list. All you have to do is be on our email list. Sign up at our website right now and you will be the first one to have all this data in your inbox so you can look at yourself or pass it off to your local epidemiologist or doctor friend.

This is what we're doing. We are bringing transparency. We're not just. you know, reporting on the news. We're making news. We're stepping up and we're making a difference, which is what makes this show more unique than anything else that I think you've watched. Let me just talk about since, you know, we haven't done this for a while. I want to go through all of the different things that we fought for. And this is just an idea of many, we have so many cases running, but around the country we've been fighting for you. So I want to thank my legal team for handing this over. I said, could you guys, excuse us, just a rundown of many of the cases that we've had so I can show the people? So here it is, the United States of America. If this is,

where you live. The ICA and legal wins across the country. Here's our, here's one, New Jersey. ICAN supported a challenge to successfully take down the mask mandate in Newark school district, the largest in the state. That happened September 9th, just a few days ago. New Jersey, you don't have to worry about. The mask mandate is down, especially in Newark. We took it down. You're welcome. Massachusetts. I can successfully forced Massachusetts Department of Public Health to repeal their flu shot mandate to attend preschool, primary school, secondary school, or a post-secondary. secondary institution. That happened back in January of 2021. New York. I can't challenge approximately 100 summonses issued to residents in New York City after they did not comply with an MMR mandate

for all people. It was really targeted on the Hasidic Jewish community, six months of age and older. They were literally arresting people in the streets. I really came out against that. Our attorneys also are in court now challenging the health care COVID vaccine mandate. But we We funded those cases fighting for the rights of those 100 people that receive citations. And so that's part of what we do. Pennsylvania and ICANN support the lawsuit. A large company withdrew its COVID-19 vaccine mandate after the lawsuit was filed. There's a huge company, lots of employees.

You didn't get a mandate because we brought our lawyers to the case. Washington, D.C., this was huge. ICANN was successful in striking down their law that allowed doctors to vaccinate children ages 11 years and older without parental consent. We've talked about it a lot. That was March 18th, 2022. Maybe the biggest win we've had yet. Michigan, Ican successfully had the state health department removed more than once misinformation it posted regarding COVID vaccines. We would see them lying to the public posting on their own health administration websites, and we sent in our legal team, said, you're lying. We will sue you if you don't take it down immediately. Ohio, I can't support the legal representation of Maddie DeGerry, who is injured in the Pfizer trials, part of the work. we've done. That story was on our show just a few weeks ago. Tennessee, Ican support the participation of its attorneys in a lawsuit regarding claims that vaccines do not cause autism that happened in February of 2022. Florida, ICANN successfully challenged mask violations. We also affected change in University of Miami's meningitis vaccine waivers process. That was on May 6th

of 21. Texas, ICANN's legal team supported a successful effort to shed light and prevent the practice of hospital use of plastic drapes over patient's heads. This little little happened. They were covering people in plastic and hospitals. We got that call and we said, not only we're going to do a show about this, send our lawyers in immediately and stop the destruction of humanity that's taking place and we won. Arizona, ICANN's legal team successfully had the state's largest county health department move its false advertising campaign from YouTube about COVID vaccines. Once again, called out their health department for lying sent in our legal team. California ICANN is successfully challenging San Diego school district COVID-19 vaccine requirements.

That's an ongoing case. We win it. They keep coming back. I assure you that is all but done. We keep fighting that. And we're going to bring any other case that we have to in the Republic of California. So that's just an idea of what we've done as far as the states. Then as the entire nation is concerned, we've been fighting federal cases for everybody in this country.

ICAN legal wins include FDA and Pfizer. I can force the FDA to release the full ingredients list of the Pfizer vaccine. They were trying to hold back on that. ICANN funded a challenge to the federal COVID-19 vaccine mandate for companies with over 100 employees all the way to the Supreme Court. I can sue the CDC to produce the study supporting that the vaccine given during the first years of life do not cause autism. And notably, it was not able to produce a single relevant study. We show the world that when they say vaccines don't cause autism, They can't prove that statement on their website.

They're lying to us as we speak. ICANN is forced the CDC to admit the following. One, it does not have a shred of proof that COVID vaccines do not create or cause variants of SARS-CoVi 2. Despite it's claiming this, the whole Geert-Vand-Boss discussion, we reached out. They can't prove that's not happening. Two, it has never conducted vaccinated versus unvaccinated study, including using historical data. They're not even doing a retrospective study of the millions of people that are in their own database that are vaccinated, unvaccinated doing a simple comparative study. You know why they're not doing it. They know how

that will turn out. Number three, it has never documented a single case of hepatitis B transmission in a school setting. They're giving that vaccine to your baby the day they're born and they never proved that a kid has given it to another kid in school, yet you have to have it to go to school. And number four, it has no documents to support its claim that COVID-19 vaccines do not change or interact with your DNA in any way. They'll tell you it doesn't affect your DNA, but they have zero science to prove it. This is an idea of what we're doing. And then when we think of the world, one of the big cases we've had for quite some time now is involving UNICEF. I can't has been formally engaging with UNICEF and world bodies on the clear science that DTP, the diphtheria

tetanus and pertussis, is killing more children than it saves and engaging countries that still use this product. It is still what is killing children in almost all the third world. It is the most popular vaccine being used by UNICEF, they must stop, and we're bringing international cases to make that happen. I say all of this because I need your help now. You are watching this great show. You're watching the great guests that we have coming here, and we have our legal team 24-7 working, but we need more help. As I've told you, we've rocked Goliath here. We have won this battle. They're in retreat, but we have to bring all the might of the courts with us right now, and there's so many cases right now, ready to go.

that I can't, I personally, I can't pull the trigger on it because we're not raising enough funds yet. I want to thank you for all that's been achieved, all of you donors that are out there that have made all of those lawsuits possible and senior children, you know, getting to have freedom and yourselves having freedom because of it, but there's so much more that needs to be done. Let me show you, I asked our legal teams, what are the cases we really want to launch right now and we can't? And maybe you can help, maybe you can't. I don't know, but let me go ahead and share these with you right now. The lawsuits we want to file as of Monday, if you said, you know what, I'm going to throw a few dollars your way.

Lawsuit challenged the government organ transplant system refusal to honor religious exemption to COVID-19 vaccines. If you need a transplant, we want to fight for you. There's big cases out there. They're going to be expensive. Might go to the Supreme Court. Help us do that. Number two, litigation against the Army to challenge the systemic discrimination of those members who have religious objections to receiving a COVID-19 vaccine. We've been successful with the Air Force case.

We want to bring that same case to the Army. me huge case help us do that. Number three, lawsuit seeking to sue Pfizer for willful misconduct in the clinical trial for its COVID-19 vaccine at the center of that, Maddie deGerry and others, where Pfizer's lied about the injuries to people that were in their own trials. We want to take that all the way to the Supreme Court. Number four, lawsuit challenging the requirement that non-citizens have a COVID-19 vaccine to enter the United States. We're going to be too late to save you, Joachovic, but everybody else out there that wants to see someone coming to this country, Just like now even COVID-0, New Zealand's going to allow.

We're going to fight for that. Number five, lawsuit challenges the COVID-19 vaccine mandate for participation in extracurricular activities in New York City. And then very quickly, lawsuit challenging restrictions on what California doctors can tell their patients about COVID. I'm talking about AB2098 that seriously wants to investigate any doctor that told the truth of COVID. We want to fight for them. Number seven, lawsuit challenges the constitutionality of the CICP. This is the countermeasures injury compensation program, which is the only place someone injured by a COVID vaccine can currently file a claim.

It's a sham. They don't have enough money. They're not using it. You don't get a jury. We want to change that. Help us do that. Advocacy around the few schools that still have mask requirements or policies. We're coming after them. Lawsuits challenging laws in other states as we did in D.C. That let doctors vaccinate minors without parental consent. We're going to fight every attempt at a law.

We threaten California with that lawsuit, and they decided not to pass that law. And in 10, lawsuit challenging the lack of religious exemptions in certain states. This is huge. For those states, that are not allowed any exemptions, especially the religious exemption. We've got a way in. We think we can return those in the courtroom. We need your help now.

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And for all of you that are about to donate right now, welcome to the team. Okay. I guess I've been stalling a little bit. I have to talk now about this interview that you are about to watch. I have to tell you, we have never done an interview that when discussing it, has had as many love letters literally just overflowing our websites

and emails with how much people are thankful that we are going to talk to Alex Jones. But on the other side, so many people, so many of you supporters that supported us all the way through have been writing emails to us saying, don't do it. Things like you shouldn't be aligned with this person or this person doesn't deserve to have this much attention. Here's just one of the emails to give you a sense.

We've blurred out who it came from, Kat being our COO, who reads through these. I am deeply concerned about you all airing an interview with the heinous Alex Jones. This man is evil and has been convicted of knowingly denying the slaughter of innocent children and then psychologically torturing, intimidating, and denigrating the parents of slain children. Please don't air the interview. This is not the same as two sides of an issue. and one cannot say, oh, let's air both sides of the story. This is very different as children were massacred,

and this man denied their beautiful lives. This is not good for the movement and truth, appreciatively. I want to say this, that, first of all, for everyone that wrote a letter, whether it was a positive letter about this interview or one that you were really concerned about us doing this interview, I want to thank you, because what it says to me is what the high wire is all about, that not only do you sit at home with ideas and feelings, you express yourself. You go and take the time to sit down and put together an eloquent discussion from your perspective.

I'm assuming that you're doing that every time one of your senators or your congressman or even a council member or even a school board member is doing something that you think is going against your moral standard or your ethics or your belief system. This is what it's all about. It's about being active and expressing yourself. So I want to let you know, I heard you, I read it, I see it, I get it. And I want to let you know that after careful consideration with our team, our international team, those among us and our legal team, I've decided to go ahead and move forward with this interview. And so let me try to just, you know, there's no way to really justify anything. There's the reasons I do things.

You're not hearing these conversations. but I want to try and give some perspective. And so the number one reason that I think this is an important interview is because of this book. This book is called The Great Recept and the War for the World. It's written by Alex Jones. And I'll admit to you right away. I mean, I don't watch Alex Jones every day. I get a sense of him.

You all send me clips. I was shocked to find that this book is not written in all caps. But what I do want to say is that this is, in fact, one of, if not the best book on Klaus Schwab's attempt at the Great Reset that I've ever read. It is so well documented. It is so brilliantly laid out. And Klaus Schwab, I know you didn't read Klaus Schwab's Great Reset. Who has the time to do that?

And who wants to go through your enemies, you know, spewing and vomit and diarrhea and idea of how to, you know, capture the world? We don't want to be bogged down by that. Instead, though, this book breaks it down and shows historically how we, you know, got here. It's a brilliant book. And I suppose, and I've even said to Alex, man, I wish anybody else wrote this because this book is so important. My only concern is because of who wrote it. You might not read it. I want everyone to read this. And so then I have to ask myself, can I promote a book and not deal with all the questions about its author? I don't think that would be right. I don't think that would be right. And so that puts me in a position. And when you, maybe you think

you know Alex Jones, but let's just think about this guy for a second. Let's just think how long he's been here. Look how long ago he said exactly what I think is the moment we find ourselves in now. Just take a listen to this. Facts and common sense are in. Yes, there have been corrupt empires. Yes, they manipulate. Yes, there are secret societies. Yes, there have been oligarchies throughout history. And yes, today in 2002, there is a tyrannical organization calling itself the New World Order pushing for worldwide government, a cashless society, open borders, total and complete tyranny, where human beings are absolutely worthless. There's six and a quarter plus billion of us, and the global's upset many times. There's too many of us. We're causing a problem.

We need to be cold at the tune of 80%. It's amazing to talk about that, but it's the globalist, the UN, their own public statements, and they've convinced a lot of liberals and elitist conservatives and others that by going along with this that we're intelligent members of society it's the ultimate mouthus world view it is this radical virulent form of social Darwinism it's the excuse of tyrants and by creating open borders where there's no national sovereignty and only global bodies that control all the resources by centralizing and socializing health care, the state becomes God, basically, when it comes to your health.

And then by releasing diseases and viruses and plagues upon us, we then basically get shoved into their system. 20 years ago, Alex Jones, this man made that statement, and then look at the show we've been talking about today. The President of the United States signing into action some form of an artificial intelligence bill. We just watched the weaponization of a virus that has taken away our rights and to take over the world by health departments.

Okay, I'm sorry. Like, I'm not sitting here. I'm not here to defend any actions. What I'm saying is there is a person that has been at this longer than I have, and many of us have, that has been really trying to warn us for a very long time. And so that's number one. This book, go get this book, read this book, forget this book. about who read it. It is so important right now. You will understand things with a clarity that you

have not seen it before. I mean that. I'm not making a red scent off this book. I'm trying to help you find the things that are moving me in the right direction. Number two, I think that this conversation comes down to something that is very precarious. In many ways, this is a question about what is the difference between a lie and a mistake or getting it wrong? And so as I sat and thought about it. I thought, you know, there have been mistakes by the news, a lot of them. If we're going to call what Alex Jones does news, we had almost every news agency in this country promote the idea of weapons of mass destruction. We went into war because of that statement. We sent our own soldiers to die in a war. We murdered innocent civilians, whether it was by accident

or an accepted casualty in that country, only to find that the entire thing was a lie to begin with and certainly a mistake by everyone that covered it. What is the responsibility of those news agencies? Did they ever apologize to us? And then let's look at COVID. Let's look at the promotion of the vaccine. We just opened up the show with virtually everyone you respect as a news anchor, dancing around like it's a musical moment, you know, trying to coax us all in our children to get a vaccine that never had a safety trial. Never had a safety trial. What do we do with those people now telling you it was going to be 95% effective? It's zero. percent effective. Everyone has gotten sick. No one's apologizing. And then how about all the news anchors that denied hydroxychloroquine as as Mickey Willis so importantly put in his brilliant movie about ivermectin discusses people's lives were lost. There are doctors that say that over a half a million people have died in the United States of America because they were denied access to or didn't believe that the use of ivermectin worked, even though studies keep coming out from around the world showing how incredibly effective that is.

do we do with those news anchors that got, I potentially you could say, got people killed by their reporting in these situations. Are they forgiven? Do we forgive them? How big is a mistake or how big is a lie? How big should it be that we erase all of the other things that maybe you got right? And lastly, when I think about all of those people, whoever you're thinking in your mind, I would interview them. This is the high wire. It's about this precarious, you know, news situation. And I understand, let me make this clear. I understand those of you that wrote into the show and said, Del, you know, by interviewing him and you're aligning with him. That is such a misconception of what news is or what I do. But it's what we have gotten used to because it's what we're seeing

in the news. What we see on CNN, what we see on MSNBC, even Fox is propaganda. They're only interviewing people that are going to say exactly what they want them to say. So I understand how we've been cold into this idea that the news, once you interview somebody, you're aligned with them, but that's not what news is, and it's not what news is supposed to be, and it's not what's happening here. I am coming from an older school form of the news. I remember when Barbara Walters would have cut off one of her arms to get to talk to Gaddafi, you know, or, you know, Fidel Castro, you know, this is how it used to be done, or Osama bin Laden. I mean, those were, you would be fighting as a news anchor to get that.

interview and now does it mean that you're aligned because you get that interview let me I have news for you tomorrow if Anthony Fauci will sit down right here I will interview him and I will be kind with him I will try to be find where we agree so that I can understand how to get into the conversation where we disagree I would interview Joe Biden I would interview Rachel Maddo and Sanji Gupta or Putin or Zelensky that is my dream this is what I do because these are the people that make the world that we live in. These are the people that are affecting our lives.

They are. Don't you want to know how they think? Don't you want to know what's going on with them? Don't you want to know if you fully understand the mistake they made or whether it was a lie or not? I don't know. I'm not going to push you into that. But I will say, I care. I want to know.

And I've said from the beginning, I've never lied to you. Because I want to know the highway is going to be a journey of, meeting and trying to understand the people around us. And so that's what we're going to do. And lastly, when I think about where I come from, I've told you I'm a minister's son. And so that weighed in this week, too, as I thought about this. And I thought about quotes like, judge not that you be not judged. Who am I to judge? I can only ask questions. That's what I do here. I try not to judge. He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone. Jesus, obviously in that situation, talking to a prostitute that bothered everybody.

He shouldn't do it. He shouldn't align himself. And then my Native American background, never judge another man until you have walked a mile in his moccasins. That's how I'm wired. I'm not here today to try and prove anything to you. I want to have a conversation with a man that is said to have been responsible for getting Donald Trump elected, one of the most controversial presidents that's ever existed, and still were in battled with conversations about Donald Trump.

every day in the news, even when he's not president. I want to know how all this happened. I want to know how Alex Jones is in the situation he's in. And for that reason, it's time for my interview with Alex Jones. I hope you'll take the time and get what you can from it. Thank you. All right, in his brand new book, The Great Reset, and The War for the World, Alex Jones is described right here on the cover. Alex Jones has been dubbed the most controversial man in America. I don't think that's an exaggeration. He joins me now in studio. Alex Jones.

Dale, thanks for having me. So, Alex, in the last month, you've had documentary come out about you, Alex's war. You didn't produce it. It's about you by an independent group of filmmakers. You just got, I think, one of the biggest settlements that you're having to pay out. We're seeing just under $50 million you have to pay out in a lawsuit that is some form of defamation and we'll get into the details of that. And you have just released a book about The Great Reset,

and I look forward to talking about it. I'm just excited to be here, and I'm going to spill my guts today. People are going to get unfiltered, so get ready. That's what this is all about looking forward to it. Here we go. You've had a hell of a month. What is your energy like in the midst of successes, books, movies, and being dragged through the coals, you know, in the media?

You know, I'm really just more worried about all these experimental shots being given to six-month-olds and up. and the massive carnage is coming out of that. So as frustrating as my life is and some of the tribulations I've been through, I really see what's happening to the military being made to take these experimental shots and medical workers being made to take it. And then watching the people that pushed it, leaving the sinking ship, now admitting it doesn't work and doesn't protect people and it's hurting people

and watching Trump still defend it. On a Richter scale, that's a 10. What's happening to me is a 2. but I know why they're targeting me and misrepresenting what I've said and done in a context because once they've built up that straw man of Alex Jones and once we don't defend Alex Jones's right to free speech, then everybody loses their right. And plaintiff's lawyers said in the closing arguments

that they want to set the precedent to shut down all independent media and anyone questioning any official narrative. Alex Jones is patient zero. for our society's inability to speak without lies. Speech is free. Lies you pay for. So I ask of you to take the bullhorn away from Alex Jones and take the first steps towards taking that bullhorn away from all the others who have it

or all the others who might want it, all the others who believe they can profit off of fear and misinformation. So that's what they're pushing. That's what they want. And they said in the closing arguments, take him out, take away his platform, take away his soapbox, silence him, never let him rebuild again. Truly, you have the ability today to stop this man from ever doing this again, from continuing to tear the fabric of our society apart for the great monetary gain. that he has received thus far and to send a message again to those who desire to do the same.

I ask that with your verdict, you not only take Alex Jones' platform that he talks about away. I ask that you make certain he can't rebuild the platform. That's what matters. Take him out of this discourse, of this misinformation, of this peddling of lies, and make sure he can't do it again. That is punishment. And I face the second defamation to Connecticut this month and then another one in Texas,

all run by the same group. Well, I mean, obviously you're talking about these cases that revolve around Sandy Hook. Let's take it back. So let's take it back a little ways to just talk about how you find yourself in this position because I think without context, it's hard to understand what's really going on here. And so your documentary, Alex's War, came out. I'll have to say, you know, I learned a lot about you. It's pretty much just a straightforward documentary that just lays out so the chronology of your life.

But one of the things that I heard this story about a journalist that got into, you know, the Bohemian Grove, which was this gathering of the elitists. And we hear about like Jackal Island, these types of things. there's this event that happens and are they dancing around with horns on their head? And I always heard about a journalist that had sort of infiltrated, somehow snuck into that space. And until watching the documentary, I didn't actually realize that that was you. So this is Alex Jones, you know, almost two decades ago, I guess, now, infiltrating the famous Bohemian Grove gathering of the elitists for their sort of cultish, you know, I don't know, life war dance.

Take a look at this. It was in the late 1990s and John Ronson was going to do a TV show for Channel 4 titled Secret Rulers of the World. And he already had a contact inside Bohemian Grove, but he didn't want to have the liability of being sued if he got the footage. So he wanted me to get the footage. I didn't know where the men like Henry Kissinger and George W. Bush really dressed in robes and attend a secret owl burning ceremony in the forests of Northern California. A ceremony said to be called the cremation of care. It was hard to believe, but Alex was intent on discovering the truth.

Ah, it's my red coat friends. How you guys just saw were late. I mean, I didn't even know about the Bohemia Grove until asked Alex to sneak in. And then, of course, I got roped into that too. So as a final preparation, Alex and Mike practiced being preppy by having appropriately preppy conversations. We're just going to walk normally as we would, calmly, la, la, la, along. There's me guys sitting there and we're, you know, we're fat cats.

So let's go ahead. It was the night of July 15, 2000. Mike Hanson and I were about to attempt the first ever successful infiltration of the Bohemian Grove. Others have tried and failed. No one has ever actually made an in and out with video evidence. A super scary situation. I mean, these are, you know, maybe government officials, CIA, FBI. I mean, all the rumors of what's happening inside the Bohemian Grove. And he states he's terrified to go in.

Do you just think there's nothing that can happen to you or you just don't care? No. I wanted to see what's really happening. So it's kind of like hunting instinct of just carry out a mission. And then once you click to that, you just do it. And I wanted to see if they really worship Big Allen did all this. I quite frankly didn't think it was going to happen. I thought this is made up. And then once I got there, I'm even in the crowd of a thousand men.

It's all male watching this ritual. And I'm saying, hey, this is really cool. They go, shut up. This is a very important ritual. So they were taking it very seriously. It was very Faustian. It had Egyptian, Babylonian, druidic rights. I later went and researched it once I had the footage of the actual ritual.

It was a composite of a bunch of pagan rights to take the effigy of a child and to sacrifice it. and then to put all of their cares and all of their bad deeds onto the child as a sin-eater or a scapegoat for the next year. Our funeral fire awaits the corpse of care. Hail fellowship's eternal flame. Once again, midsummer sets us free. And so it was an actual ritual.

They take it very, very seriously. So I was that night, I snuck in for about four or five hours, I've been there about three hours. The sun went down. I'd already walked in, seen the owl, seen the lake. I got there. I got the footage. And then on the way out, trying to get out at night, then I was concerned.

I thought, okay, these are crazy people. Because, again, even while they're doing it, I'm like, oh, this is an art project. But I'm looking at all these rich men, most of them, millionaires, and they are crazed. Because there's light, and I can see their faces. I'm with them standing on the other side of this little lake, this little pond, with this ritual going on. were taking it deadly serious. It was that point I went, whoa. And then Mike's like, hey, this wasn't that bad. Let's sneak around some more. Because by then he wasn't as

scared. And I said, no, we're getting out of here now. So when that aired, was there any pushback on that? Did they act like it never happened? Is it still going on every year as we know it? I mean, did anything change? They did stuff like, we shot the footage, and then we were supposed to mail it to LA to World of Wonder, the production company. And we dubbed it, we copied the digital tapes, mailed it, never came. Mail another copy. They get erased tapes. So we then had to mail it under another name to another place, and the tapes got there. So they were intercepting the mail, trying to stop the tape of the ritual to get there. So we had that happen. Then the show came out six months later on national British television and then on U.S. television, and people were

pretty blown away by it. And so I would say that was the biggest thing I'd done up to that point. I'd already been on air about five years when that happened. But it was huge. It was huge because someone like me who's working in television doing different things, I knew the story. I just never saw it. But it's sort of like, you know, film lore. It's out there.

And you're the guy behind that. So let's talk about you start off in cable access. Part of what you talk about the documentary, which I think was interesting, is how did you get into? I suppose in some ways you're like the king, the godfather, conspiracy theory to begin with, or, and I hate that term because I think it's just used almost as a pejorative, but the investigation of government, as we know it, especially the U.S. government and what they've got going on. Why, what in you developed sort of a strong skepticism of government and media. Where did that come from?

Growing up, I was into comic books, I was into science fiction. I mean, I was a jock too, but I liked to read a lot. And so, I mean, I enjoyed reading like Tony in the Barbarian books written in the 30s and things. And then by the time I was about eight or nine, I started reading history books. I thought that was way more interesting. So I asked my parents to start buying me children's history books. And by the time I was about 10, I was reading adult history books. So I already kind of know how the world worked just by reading a ton of history.

And it was so much more interesting because every page was like a new battle, a new war, all these things that happened. And this had actually gone on. This wasn't fiction. So I got addicted to history and they say those that don't know history are doomed to repeat. And so I was just a big history buff. And by the time I was about 16, I'd read no exaggeration, probably 500, 600 adult history books. and was just ferocious about it. And so that kind of set me up to see the world a different view

than the average teenager that was just playing video games and watching Hollywood movies. That's just sort of, it breaks the image that we have of sort of where people group themselves, especially in high school. Well, sure. I mean, jocks today are the warrior class, even though they're not really.

And so people think the warrior class doesn't know history and the little bookworm does. Right. But in all ancient cultures, the warriors do history more than anybody else. like the warrior was supposed to know all the history and all those things. And so, I mean, I think that I just unconsciously kind of got into that because I was attracted to history and to things that had taken place. And I wasn't attracted to violence or just war itself, but I did read history because it was so incredibly interesting.

And so I got a classical education, you know, just by the fact that I fell into history. So was there anyone in your family that sort of gave you an inside scoop into how things actually work or did anyone care about that? that sort of set you off? They never really pushed it on me, but I did have a lot of family that worked in intelligence agencies and the military and stuff like that. And they would come around and talk crap about the government and how the government was doing bad things and how they were trying to do good things. And they weren't malcontent.

They weren't people complain. There were people that had been in charge of a lot of stuff. They were just hit a certain level and said that it was corrupt and the bad people were taking over the government and that there was a real problem. Like my mom's dad had developed. up secret weapons for the Pentagon and been involved in a bunch of stuff that he never told a family about. And then my mom's brother had been involved in a bunch of stuff and I ran Contra. And then a bunch of other family had been involved in stuff.

And so they never told me any of it. They would just sit there and say, what you're seeing on the news is pure crap. And when I was about seven years old, my dad handed me a copy of between two ages and the technotronic era by his biggest, I was a big of Brzezinski. And he said, when you're old enough, read this book, this is. is how the world really works. And that book written in the 70s is a blueprint for what they've now built if you read that book. And so it was pretty interesting.

And some of those discussions are in your book. You've written here, Brizinski and Trilateral Commission and sort of how this is all put together. So let's get into that a little bit because politically I find this very interesting. And frankly, reading this book, one of the shocking things. I mean, I'll just say right up front in my family, Jimmy Carter, was like almost like Jesus. And I remember my father saying things like, you know, Carter believes in making America the bread basket of the world,

that we can feed the world. There was like this very beautiful idea that we had so much here in America we could take care of everybody, right? Rosalind Carter ends up, this is one of the things that I've learned the last couple years, it's like the mother of the vaccine program,

mandated vaccines, things like that. I'm like, oh my God. You know, in a family that I grew up unvaccinated. So there's this dichotomy, but also talk about like trilateral rule commission. I didn't realize Carter was such a big part of that. As you start seeing right there, it's almost like the entry space for this globalist thought system. Whereas from my perspective growing up, I was being told in our family that this is a great thing. We're going to feed the world.

We're all going to come together. There would be comparisons to it's like Star Trek, Dallas, like Star Trek where we're all for the good of the whole. and this whole idea, and there was a beauty to it. The UN was like the greatest idea that all nations coming together. You're hitting on the whole corporate world government, false ethos they put out to the general public of world peace, and America's the breadbasket. And we're going to, like, we're the Star Trek, you know, high-tech humans coming to help the primitives on another planet.

We're going to save the third world. That's how they sold everybody on getting on board. But if you go back and actually read what Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger in the 70s were saying, they were saying State Department of Merrandum of 200, we're going to bring in world government, we're going to depopulate people, we're going to ship poison and intoxic waste in third world because they're worthless. I mean, this is all stated policies. And so you can say that Carter probably actually believed in the official story. I think he was being scapegoated.

But Zabrygne Brzezinski and David Rockefeller with the Trilateral Commission, they were really setting up the skeletal system of this world government. And if you really look at the Great Reset and Klaus Schwab, we're destroying the old infrastructure, but not actually building a new one. We're destroying the carrying capacity of the planet so that we can collapse populations. That's agenda 21, a Gen 2030.

So now that we see what they actually were planning, it's the very opposite of this utopian view that they got all the good academics and clergy and people behind believing they were joining the government or joining corporations or joining the Peace Corps or joining the CIA. to go create all this incredible liberty. But once the people got higher level in it,

they found out, no, we're not building a utopia. We're building a tyranny. So I think that's why my family was involved in all that and found out this is not what we're actually building. This isn't what we recruited for. This is what they're going to build. They're going to use food as a weapon. They're going to cut off the resources.

They're going to put microchips to everybody. They're going to forcibly inject people and give them a soft kill, slow kill weapons. I remember being in high school. I remember being 13, 14. And my uncle lived in San Antonio who had been involved in all. sorts of stuff around the world. And believe me, he wasn't any shrieking violent. He got recruited

in Vietnam because he would do whatever they told him clandestinely. So they ended up put him in charge of much stuff because he would fly anything they wanted around. But he said there was a point he hit in his life when it was what was going on in Latin America was too horrible and he had to say now and got out of it. So it wasn't like these were little angel cakes that can handle stuff. It was like they're like, we're not doing this. And I said, what was it? It was right before he died and he said they were smuggling out of Guatemala the government was but now look at the border and the kids being smuggled

this is a really evil dark thing that isn't our government that is in charge on top of all of this and when the UN says hundreds of millions are going to starve to death they're not lying but they helped run it with the lockdowns it wasn't COVID that's killed 60 plus million extra people the last

two and a half years they admit it starvation not caused by the virus but caused by their lockdown to destroy supply chain systems right and so this is a post-industrial attack, that's what the great reset is. When you really look at your story, which has actually bounced back politically in every direction, I think I really remember hearing about you first, and it was sort of the liberal progressives around me that were really excited about this guy that was against George Bush

and the Iraq War. I mean, you were really, you know, railing on George, at the same time I was. Everybody should investigate 9-11 and find out who's really behind it. It's Bush's and the New World Order's Reichstag. And his cousin Kerry isn't going to save you either. Now, it was easy for me because I sort of grew up as, I'm being perfectly honest. You couldn't be a more loudmouth progressive liberal than I was at the time. Growing up in Boulder, Colorado, I mean, that's like, you know, it's a crystal cathedral of liberalism.

And there's still values I hold from that. But the point being, you're out there and you are railing on George Bush and this war that I'm saying there's no good can come of this. this is a family that is making money pumping gas through pipelines and taking control. I don't see how this has anything to do with America or our strength. And what do we need with a bunch of people? How are we afraid of a country that can't throw a rock far enough to hit us? And so what's fascinating is in that moment, there's this huge surge where you have a, you had a lot of liberal, progressive supporting the work that you were doing.

You're a big hero to them, right? Absolutely. I mean, I've never, here's what happens. when a Democrat's in office, I get called a right-wing fascist. And then when a Republican was in office, they would call me a communist. Just because I knew it was the same deep state, the same permanent state, they had a bunch of PR about what they stood for. But at the end of the day, it was an anti-human, anti-American, anti-third world, anti-truly progressive system. And so I wasn't thinking about it as if political labels. And so I'd been against Clinton because of the

things he was doing, but I wasn't super famous then. We have military special computers, we have missile guidance systems and nuclear technology, separation technology in three and two stage intercontinental ballistic missiles being transferred to China. I mean, I don't know why he's doing it. It's very, very frightening. That's treasonous. That man needs to be hung for treason.

Well, no, we don't need to create a martyr. He needs to serve a long term in federal prison. Then I was against George W. Bush and 9-11 and all the connections to that. And so I exploded with the liberals. And I was like going out to San Francisco and New York giving speeches on national TV and major progressive events, getting awards and stuff. But then they'd say, but you're pro-life and pro-gun. I'd say, yeah. And they'd say, well, that's okay because you don't like the Republicans.

I was in the cult. And I was getting called to Martin Sheen's house and, you know, at parties with Brad Pitt and all the rest of this stuff. We're talking 20 years ago. Right. And like, hey, we're going to put you in movies and we're going to do all this. and I was like, no, I don't really want to be part of that. And then Obama came in. And then all of a sudden, these people are calling me, well, why are you bashing Obama?

And I'm like, well, he's keeping the wars going. He's funding all these radical groups for destabilization. He's pushing all the same agenda. He's run by the same people. He's there to get the left on board with this corporate new world order agenda. And so then the left didn't know what to do. They kind of got freaked out. And then I saw Trump come along and saw the power structure legitimately get upset about him.

And before I didn't really like Trump, thought he was some cheesy reality show guy that owned hotels. But then when I saw him attack him, I thought, well, he was actually anti-war previously. And he did question 9-11 when it happened and thought there were bombs the building. So the more I learned about Trump, the more I liked him. And then Trump's people reached out. They wanted support, talk to Trump some. And they said, no, no, we're going to impress you. We're going to control the border.

Stop the human smuggling. We're going to stop the fentanyl. We're going to stop all these wars. We're going to bring our jobs back. And I'm like, okay, well, I mean, certainly I'm going to then get behind this. And then Trump started running. And then they went, okay, Jones is Trump's brain, which I was never really his brain. Steve Bannon and Steve Miller and a few of those guys were his main advisors.

Though I had inspired them, I now know I've talked to them. But I was just pushing a classic Americana populism that was anti-imperialism, anti-corruption, anti-war. or pro-prosperity that transcended all these football, you know, divergentary issues. And so, I mean, I guess I was more Trump's brain that I knew. So they ran all these TV ads saying Trump's brain is Alex Jones. Hillary's last month was mainly Alex Jones. It's also what happens when you listen to the radio host, Alex Jones, who claims that 9-11 and the Oklahoma City bombings were inside jobs.

So that built me up in the liberal progressives mind as, like, like Godzilla attack in Tokyo, and actually made us a lot bigger. I mean, we had 87 million different IP addresses. That wasn't hacking, that was real people coming, come to InfoWars.com in the week before the 2016 election. We had, you know, 10 times the viewers of CNN, three or four times CBS, all of it. So we had the biggest audience in the lead-up, and then for that period. So then they started the de-platforming, the shadow.

their mind, Alex Jones got Donald Trump elected. Oh, absolutely. And what really happened was when they started demonizing Trump for his populist affiliations with myself and others, then my audience said, okay, he must be good. So Politico asked me years ago, when Rand Paul first elected the Senate, he came on the show, he backed him and all that, they said, how could we have beaten Rand Paul? And I said, corporate media is so discredited, you should have endorsed Rand Paul. if you wanted to beat him, but you would never do that. And it's the same thing.

When they said I ran Trump, they said it for about three months for the end of the election, that made his poll numbers actually go up internally. So their own prophecy was fulfilled. And the truth was, I wasn't influencing Trump that much. He just kind of came along and took over the populist movement that I was part of. And so he rode in on that wave, and he tried to deliver on some of it,

but on a lot of he failed. But regardless, now on the Democrats' brain, I am literally the nervous. center of the Republican Party and I run everything, which I don't. But because of them saying it, now it's becoming true. And so I'm actually horrified now because they think I'm like the top general and it's actually becoming that because they keep saying it. It's bizarre. They're creating the monster that they're afraid of. They're creating the monster. Just like exactly, you know, the Godzilla analogy is setting off the hydrogen bombs wakes him up.

And I'm not Godzilla. They're waking up the populously. Right, correct. And at this point, I'm just like, dude, I don't want civil war. I don't care who's in power. I'm not trying to be in bed with the Republican Party, Democratic Party. I'm not trying to get government contracts. I'm not trying to get financial, you know, political donations. I just wanted freedom and I don't want to be political, not because they attacked me, but because it's seedy and it's gross. And I came from the outside, and now they put me in the center of the inside and have weaponized everything to take me out. And actually, it's just making me bigger, which is, I'm not stupid. as I get bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger now, it makes it more dangerous. Right. Where I got to have 24-hour day security and all the rest of it. So I wasn't looking for this, but the alchemy of the dialectic they've created, whether they knew they did it or not, has... Well, that'd be my question because in some ways, it's a bit like I think they create monsters.

I think they push Donald Trump because they thought he's such a cartoon, will easily be able to beat him. Hillary will wipe him out. So the media really had fun pushing him and really moving him through, you know, all the debates. Just he got all the attention, right? It was like a clown show to them. They gave him all the attention thinking he'll be the one we can beat. Yet they made him bigger, bigger, bigger to the point where by the time it came around, he was invincible.

Everyone was watching him. We were all, whether we were against him or for him, you were addicted to the show. Absolutely. I am so sick of media. I don't really watch anybody else's podcast hardly ever. but my wife watches you every week. I watch almost every week when I get a chance because you always have such incredible insights

and put it better than I do. It's not your opinion what you just said. It later came out that Hillary pressured CNN and ABC and others, just like we now learn Zuckerberg admits the FBI told them don't let the laptop story get out. That's an election meddling that just admitted. But what you just said is totally true. Hillary election meddled on purpose

in internal memos that have come out that Trump's a clown. He'll be the easiest to beat. of all these candidates, make sure he wins the nomination. And then they built the monster, Frankenstein, but Hillary is Dr. Frankenstein. Right. Yeah, and what's crazy is, I don't know this is true,

but the whole point is Dr. Steve Pachanick did run psychological operations to the CIA and the State Department. And he told me, he won't come on the show now for whatever he's not doing any interviews, he has something going on. But he told me basically all this stuff would happen, like five years ago, 10 years ago, he would say, oh, we're running a dialectic and you watch and as long as you can take it, watch what we're going to do to you and we're going to attack you and it's going to make you bigger.

And I'm like, dude, you're an old man, you're crazy. Wrote the Tom Clancy books and all that. And now whatever is going on, either he was boasting something that wasn't true or that happened. And I'm not with the CIA. I'm not up here getting orders from anybody, but there's some big brains up there that know how to build monsters. And whoever told them to try to put Trump in, Hillary didn't want that. She believed her advisors that said, put him out there. Well, what are they doing to me? What do they think having me on every channel, every newspaper, every day does? It doesn't make us smaller. It makes us bigger. So here's what I'm saying is, this is sophisticated. And I'm actually in over my head at this point. I don't know what's going on. I keep getting asked the same question. I keep looking to try, you know, is it, is it this tiny group of families that are running all of this? Is it the big question to be? Is it Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab? These are the people we see.

Now, I don't want to say, if you can see them, then they're not the people. But in my mind, in my mind, what I've been saying is, look, Bill Gates is arguably one of the richest people, at least on paper that we see. And he has certainly stepped forward and made some brilliant moves. I mean, moving. You know, moving into, let me just, I'm going to diversify, get out of my monopolies that I'm in court. And I'm in a devil in the United States of America. I'm going to look like a good person. and I'm going to get into NGOs and nonprofits,

and I'm going to start buying up the World Health Organization. I mean, this guy's genius. Who saw that? Well, that's the whole globalist model. Let me be 100% clear. I don't know why Hillary told them I want to run against Trump and thought she could beat him and play it into that. I'm saying these big brains above,

I don't know if it's true that there's a higher level group that says attack Jones because that's going to make him even bigger, and then the populist movement will win in the end. That's what the former head of psychological operations, the CIA, told me they were going to do years ago, before all this happened and I just rolled my eyes and hung the phone up. Right. Okay.

So they see trends that are already there and claim responsibility for it? I don't know. I know there's a lot of in ineptitude and government corporations you name. But I do know who's steering the main movements of the planet. And it is the World Economic Forum, the Debo's group, that is the public spokesperson for the Bilderberg group. Klaus Schwab was the former steering committee head of it. He is the mouthpiece for the Fortune 500 that won a corporate world government that one a global social credit score that want a global carbon tax based on a vaccine ID platform.

That's happening. And they do want to break up the family. They do want to take over our autonomous bodies. They do want to have medical control over us. They do want to put nanotech and chips in our bodies. They're all over the place staying in. They are having this revolution where we're going to be forcibly merged with machines. So that movement is public. The global government is there. And we know as the spokespersons, it's Bill Gates, Klaus Schwartz Prince Charles and in the past people like Ted Turner and Yuval Nouveau and Noval Harare. And they all speak the same language. You've got Bill Joy, Halfway, saying, well, he's against it, but here's their plan. The owner of some microsystems you have, you know, the Unabomber on one side saying this is all coming, he was CIA.

Theodore Kaczynski looked out of who's an M.K. Ultra. All of this going on. And so this is the real world. This is what they're building. This is what they're setting up. And so that's all documented on record. The claim by the higher ups is they're not just building that evil takeover. The real Illuminati is these thought leaders, do you call it, who believe they're creating a dialectic where they want to have full spectrum dominance to control the evil AI takeover, but to use it to torture humanity into this biological metamorphosis and advanced accelerated evolution to create the Uber mention. And they believe the Uber mention will then defeat this. AI, cyborg attack, and that's actually what the inventor of the telecommunication satellite,

the idea, the Russians first launched it, but the inventor of the telecommunication satellite, former OSS, MI6, spy leader, that's what the guy that wrote 2001 Space Odyssey talked about in speeches he gave before he died, saying, no, Augustine Clark's 2001 Space Odyssey is an art type for what's going to happen. So he launched the best humans we've got into space for alien contact and all of a sudden the computer takes over and tries to kill everybody, but then one human survives, defeats it, makes an interdimensional jump, then goes and is recarnated back to Earth to be the Christ. And that's the real Illamani religion.

And that's what they actually believe. So Elon Musk. I mean, in here, there's this guy, he's got neuralink. He's going to like tap into your brain and the internet. Yet he says things like, you need to be regulating us. You need to stop us. You need to slow us down because what is happening here with AI is moving so fast. He's more dangerous than nuclear energy or power or bombs ever was, and yet we are running free here.

This is the Wild West. We have to figure out some way to ensure that the advent of digital superintelligence is one which is symbiotic with humanity. I think that's the single biggest existential crisis that we face and the most pressing one. I'm not normally an advocate of regulation and oversight. I mean, I think one should generally go on the side of minimizing those things. But this is a case where you have a very serious danger to the public. And therefore, there needs to be a public body that has insight and then oversight on to confirm that everyone is developing AI safely.

This is extremely important. I think danger of AI is much greater than the danger of nuclear warheads by a lot. And nobody would suggest that we allow anyone to just build nuclear warheads if they want. That would be insane. And mark my words, AI is far more dangerous than nukes. It seems like he feels like let's just upgrade ourselves a little bit so we can stop the real AI, which is the fear. Is that what you're saying is happening? There's a group that wants to use AI mixed with humanity to defeat just straight up, you know, computer takeover?

Well, exactly. If anybody was the head of the Illuminati, who's public, you would stay at Ceylon Musk. Okay. And they have Illuminati as an evil connotation back to what is more in modern culture. And you have Adam Vizops Lumini 250 years ago in Germany and France, which ran the French Revolution. It was bad. But that was bad guys, and I'm not endorsing the Illuminati, I'm saying. That was bad guys claiming they were the Enlightenment, they were the Illuminati,

to recruit everybody, kind of like the left with Jimmy Carter recruited everybody for world peace. Right. But it was evil being set up. Real Illuminati means illumination, not keep people in the dark. And so the real Illuminati, I would say, they're trying to create a balance of good and evil to try to control things. You see that in Star Wars where Darth Vader is supposed to create the balance of the force and all the rest of it. And, you know, it's cheesy, but then at the end, he does actually. do it. So if you want to see that, that's how

their thinking works is in dozens of moves ahead. And so, yes, Elon Musk saying things like, listen, I've got NeuroLink, I want to put a chip in your brain first. But control me, this is dangerous, don't do it. They metaphysically have to tell you there's a danger.

But then he says, no. The only way to beat what they're creating is you get augmented now, which is really true. I'm not endorsing that. I'm saying humans have always changed our evolution. We've always changed our development. So he's being more honest about this is coming, but we should be in charge of it, not this other breakaway group that wants to be in charge of it,

but that's also another seduction as well. I think really none of this overall is good. I'm not against technology itself, but the way it's being implemented is destructive against everybody. But sort of what we are as a species. One of the things I get in trouble when I say, I don't think Bill Gates sees himself as an evil person. I think he truly believes he is making the world a better place. I think he believes if you don't do what I say,

If we don't block out the sun right now, global warming is going to get so out of control, we won't be able to grow any food. I'm buying up the farms to do everything right, you know, all of these things. And so to me, it's what's happening. If you think about that Illuminati, right, let's say that there is coming from a good place, right? A place where we have all the finances, we understand the history books, we've done all of this throughout time. We're more educated than the masses are. We are going to have to move you in a place you don't understand, but we're going to,

be, you know, the light workers, but isn't the problem, and I think really getting down to it, and I don't know what your religious beliefs are, but it's a total lack of God. I mean, what it ends up being, no matter how much it wants to be the light, it has forsaken God. It doesn't believe that there's anything greater. There's no greater mind than human intellect and maybe boosted human intellect with AI, and that's where I think it's becoming, it can't avoid being evil because no matter how good its intention is, it believes is the final say and everybody else is stupid. It's just turned itself into the new creator, has it not? Well, that is the best exactly. They're saying it's for your own good, but they're setting themselves up as God,

but not a God that the Christian and Jewish faith believe gives us free will. This God takes your free will, censors you, controls you, and wants to insert you into a metaverse so it can get you, trick you through free will to subserve yourself to it. So it's the ultimate deception. It's pure evil. The whole thing is ultra bad news. And no one wants it. You know, kids try the metaverse.

They throw up. They get sick. No one wants it. So now you hear about billions to companies from BlackRock to make their employees wear VR all day. I mean, folks, this is the matrix. First, it's a radio. The family no longer talks at dinner. They listen to the radio.

Then it's a TV. They don't longer talk at dinner. They watch the TV. Now they're all their own rooms on their own computers, their own handheld devices. Now you're wearing goggles. Now it's a brain ship. So it's like a face sucker. It goes from a radio to a TV to a handheld that's a face sucker that basically takes over your mind, takes over your body.

And they're jacking us in. And the endgame goal is that we do have these souls. We do have this in a connection to higher dimensions in the universe. And this is a artificial system trying to jack in and use us as a gateway or a capacitor or a transceiver. to jack into higher dimensions. So it's a lower level silicon life form trying to break through us and use us as a system to break through to the other side.

And I think that's basically what we're looking at. This is no longer science fiction. These things are happening around us. You've got Yuval Noah Harari saying, we already have the technology. We don't care just about where you're standing in the world. We want to know what's happening with all of your bio-identification,

all these systems underneath your skin. They're already putting nanoplastics and these nanotrackers in everything. Previously, surveillance was mainly above the skin. Now it's going under the skin. Governments want to know not just where we go or who we meet, above all they want to know what is happening under our skin. Remember last year the FDA said they have no regulatory power over it,

just put it food any nanotech you want. This revolution has already been launched. Yeah, let me ask the question that I grapple with because I travel all around the country. I talk about this pandemic. And you admit here you said there's three different reasons that it happened. Either purposely this virus was a man-made virus that was released upon us to achieve a globalist system or it got leaked out on accident and therefore but set up to be a good opportunity.

Or your last case scenario is it's natural and they use this as a moment to just seize and sort of bring the globalization upon us. obviously the timing of all of this and event 201 and operation lockstep with the Rockefeller Foundation they'd always said we're going to have a world government takeover using disease X the UN had

said and so the timing of it all of it was meant to basically they don't want one country getting more powerful than another was meant to knock America back down shut down the West shut down small businesses bring in their world government and that's definitely what they've done so I believe

they released it on purpose we know it's made now they're not debating that so i think we started losing our youtube and facebook when we started having people on discussing gain of function and the fact that this was you know created a lavish which you're totally vindicated right we just yeah how in your hand all over the internet like i've been and you've been right how do we like a lot of the hunter laptop which they now had been is real right and which we now know the fbi ordered big tech not to allow to election medal is the fbi i think basically came to us some some folks on our team and was like hey um just so you know you should be on high alert. We thought there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016

election. We have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump of that's similar to that. So just be vigilant. So how do people get reinstated they got taken down for showing a hundred laptops? Exactly right. Why am I not getting a call? Why is the New York Times not apologizing to me for saying that the things I've said when I said go out and catch this cold that those that are at risk, we need to protect them. We need to protect the elderly, but those of us that are healthy, this is going to be a cold for you, and we are only going to get to hurt immunity if we all get out there and catch it.

So let's not hide in our house, let's get out there. But if you inject people with experimental shots during a pandemic, it will create super viruses. Right. But now what do we have? The CDC is totally changing its tune. And what's the saying, what I basically said, go out and catch this cold. Because as you know, usually viruses develop to something that's communicable,

then they get weaker and weaker and weaker. But instead, this thing goes boom, boom, boom, boom, because of the shots. And every time they start a new injection, every country goes, because they were creating the mutations. Well, I mean, okay, so. It's all a giant experiment. So let's get into a little bit now. I want to get to something you just said, though. You said that when I brought up the fact that you had three things that might have happened here, you stayed in this book, that either it's a man-made virus and they release it on purpose, it's a man-made virus, and it got out on accident, or it's natural.

And you said, well, I only... put those three things because I only want it in the book what I could prove, which gets down to the question I think that looms over you right now, which is how do you decide if something is true? As Alex Jones and Info Wars, where is your information coming from and when is it, do you pull the trigger and say, I'm going to let this rip? Because you just talked about having like an edit in your mind for this book, but I don't think that editor exists on your show. Is that, Is that fair to say? I think it's very fair to say that if I write a book, I'm going to really try to get it exactly right.

This is like, you know, giving a baby a bath. I mean, you've got to really be careful. But then when you're out gunslinging on your own live talk show for three or four hours a day, I'm giving my opinion. There's no way to sit there and calculate out. I mean, Howard Stern went on air after Columbine and said he hoped they raped it had sex with the dead bodies. Did those kids try to have sex with any good-looking girls? I didn't even do that.

At least if you're going to go kill yourself. and kill all the kids. Why wouldn't you have some sex? You know, I mean, if I was going to kill some people, I'd take him out with some sex. Horrible thing to say, totally terrible. I don't agree with it, but he shouldn't be sued for it, and he wasn't. I question, because other people do and say, maybe this didn't happen, and then I get sued for it. So, so that's basically where this is.

We're talking about Sandy Hook, of course, right now. This is the biggest looms over you. I know the New York Times has been caught lying on purpose about WMD's launch war. I know because of Project Veritas, CNN's been caught with producers, admitting they lie on purpose, ABC, you name it. You know, Project Veritas is incredible. They got the footage of the ABC anchor going, yeah, we all know he's raping kids. Boy, I'd be famous if I could expose it. I've had the story for three years.

I've had this interview with Virginia Roberts. We would not put it on the air. First of all, I was told, who's Jeffrey Epstein? No one knows who that is. This is a stupid story. I had it all three years ago. She didn't care about the kids. She's like, I'd be, that'd be a really big story.

instead of, well, you should have gone public, but instead she's caught on a hot video mic, admitting it, which makes it even sicker. She's laughing about it. It had been a big story, but it wouldn't let me. I mean, I would have gone and left, and you would have gone and left and talked about that. So that's the difference.

Let me throw in there, Rachel Maddell. Well, Rachel Maddow said Trump is a Russian agent. And then when there were lawsuits, they said, well, she's a pun and she's a lot of her opinion, which I agree. But let's be clear, at least the way it goes, when she did get sued, they said she used the Alex Jones defense. Are you aware of that?

Which is not true. Okay. I was in a custody battle five years ago with my ex-wife, and they wanted to bring in a clip of me as the Joker a decade before, doing an obvious satire saying, take drugs, kids, take your Prozac, take your illegal drugs. You'll die and see funny colors, which I was telling kids don't use drugs. Right. And so my lawyer said, when Mr. Jones is playing the part of the Joker, it's clear, just as a judge. Jack Nicholson is playing the part of the Joker, that Jack Nicholson is not the Joker. Mr. Jones is engaged in satire there.

And so they then took that and spun that and said that I admit I'm an actor all the time. You ever seen a transcript? Ever seen a photo? Ever seen a video of me saying, I'm an actor. This is all fake? No. I very rarely do a character. I used to them, you know, every once in a while.

Cobra Commander, Mad Scientist. But when you're not playing a character, you are stating... Because I think the idea was that she's not responsible because what she's doing is just opinion. Yeah, well, what they did is they first claim that I said I was an actor in fake.

Okay. And they claim that I admit everything I say is not true. Where's the video, where's the transcript? It doesn't exist. Okay. And then there's a boilerplate legal defense in federal and state law but particularly state law for defamation,

where you argue this is just punditry, this is live analysis, this can't be taken as journalism, which is at a higher standard. This is just opinion. And so absolutely, a lot of what I do is opinion. I'm not claiming when I write a book, I try to be journalistic.

Still probably not perfect. Only the mainstream media calls themselves perfect. But when I'm ranting on air, I'm trying to tell the truth, but there's hyperbole some and I make mistakes. So that's the difference, but I've never tried to get things wrong. I've never lied to people consciously. And so do you consider yourself a journalist?

When I've gone down to the Texas border in the last 20 years, over and over again, including this year and last year, and we show children as young as six months old, being handed to people they don't even know with no paperwork, and the woman's saying, this is my baby to the TSA, it's handed to a woman, and we show five hours later the same woman going, This is my baby and handing it to another woman with no paperwork.

That's human smuggling. That's totally illegal. That's super dangerous. The Senate report admits it's going on. We are awesome, badass journalist when we fly a drone over of the Texas border and show 2,000 Haitians coming across. And then we talk to the Border Patrol whistleblower that says we got a million coming through every month in Texas alone. That's in Texas alone.

And we're only catching 20%. That's 8, 10 million people. a year in Texas. We had those interviews last year. Now those numbers are confirmed. So yeah, when we do have the money, the time, the energy to go out and go to Davos or go to Bilderberg or go to Bohemian Grove and sneak in and get the footage, I mean, I was inside and thrown out of the hotel 10 years ago once Bilderberg started. I hid in the hotel in London, north of London, and caught the footage. I hid in the hotel when the King of Spain arrived. They were playing the music for him. And then they had guys with machines.

guns throw me out. I mean, so, so yeah, I've absolutely done hardcore journalistic stuff. Hey, they're piling in that car right now. They've got a car seat for them? You got a car seat? That's illegal, bro. Where are you taking these kids? That's illegal. You get in traffic, you get this on the table. Where are you taking these kids?

You have a car seat. That's illegal. How is this Christian? Hey, he's the police over here. They got a bunch of kids on the car seat. Hey. You have no cops. You got those children in there illegally.

You're about to run a human being over. Hey, who are you? Who are you? You got those snuggled children illegally. All right, let's not scare the kids. Enough for you out. But four hours a day on the year. Right.

I mean, you know, I'll say sarcastic stuff. I mean, the other day I was on air, and I was being interviewed by somebody about the, the event I hate to even say the name that I barely ever covered that they've made me into. And I said, you ever hear about the guy that shot the kids in Sandy Hook? No, you never hear about Adam Lanza. No one knows who Adam Lanzi is. They had a junior lawyer during my trial here in Texas, the last kangaroo trial where I was already found guilty.

And I said, you know, no one knows Adam Lanzah. And the lawyer, the junior lawyer goes, who's Adam Lanzza? And I go, it's the son of a bitch that killed the kids. Right. Okay, but my point is, so I've got on air instead, I killed him. Fine. Everybody thinks, I mean, you think Sandy Hook, you think Alex Jones, this is ridiculous, but they could take that out of context by Iran on error where I said, I think we should bow

five times a day to Sandy Hook. I think we should rename Planet Earth Sandy Hook, or we're not respectful. And I think actually burned at the stake for questioning it. And in fact, I killed him. Now, obviously, that's me being sarcastic. But I expect that they'll probably pick that up and say, Jones now claims he killed the kids. Because they're the ones manipulating the record. they're the ones lying about what goes on.

And so, yeah, am I on air too much? Yeah. I should probably take off a month. I've been nonstop for 28 years. I'd never take off ever. And I'd never quit. And I at this point am, you know, out of my mind half the time. But let's get into it.

Because I don't do a daily show. We've talked about it with my team. I have legal. I have one of the greatest constitutional lawyers that's ever lived on my team. I have some of the world-renowned scientists that appear here, others that are anonymously. going over and fact-checking everything. And we've looked at, in order to do the show the way we do it on Thursday,

I do everything I can to make it immaculate. There are things that right up to the last minute, we pull it, go, oh, nope, it didn't end up being true. We got a third source of blah, blah, blah, you know, all that. You don't have that. You're not working with that. When I got remarried six years ago in Hawaii, I had the same conversation with my wonderful wife, I said, I can't do shows six days a week anymore. It's burning me out.

And even if I try to get stuff right, see, Maine Street Media will say they're never wrong or, you know, No, no, no. I mean, I get things wrong, but not on purpose. I said, I got to slow down. It's killing me. And I said within five years, I want to do one show a week that's like three hours long, that's well produced, well researched, and hardcore. I'm rested and ready. And write a book a year and maybe make a film a year. And I'll still work three, four days a week. I'll be able to do research.

I'll do it. That's my goal. But my infrastructure, everything's still set up for talk radio, what we're doing, but you're absolutely right. So you were asking me how I research what I do. That's really the answer. And I try to get great smart experts on like yourself and others. just because I am beleaguered and not even so much by the attacks on me, just by the workload that I established for ourselves.

Now, I'm not going to let you off the hook. Sandy Hook. You made statements that were shocking to a lot of people, hurtful to those that would have been parents involved in this, basically saying these are crisis actors, this is a fake, this thing as a red, flag moment. My first question would be, did someone bring you that story? How did you take that angle? Why did you take that angle? Well, it's a long story. If you have a huge audience. And if you've got the time, I'd love to hear it. I'd love to tell me what really happened. Okay. I want to hear it. So I've been completely honest, even in depositions two years ago, they started four years ago, when they started suing me, big Democrat law firms that sued Remington into bankruptcy, you know,

really, really serious organizations. I told them that I had, seen Gulf of Tonkin stage, WMDs in Iraq staged, and so many other events, 9-11, with all those serious issues, and that when everything you've been told the past is a lie, you start to believe everything's a lie. So I said I had kind of a form of almost psychosis. And they ran that everywhere. Jones tries insanity defense and all this stuff. I was being honest that in my process, in the first four or five years at Brasandy Hook,

that I didn't even cover that much, I did basically get to the point where I believed it may have been completely staged. And I had a lot of reasons for that. And so here's basically how it starts. I took my son and older daughter to school. The younger one was being homeschooled at that time. She was like, she was like five. And I just got to work. And I'm like, they killed 20 kids. This is hard to believe? And I went on there and said, is it staged? Did a black op group do it? Is it real? And we learned that he got a gun from his mommy legally and all this. And he was on Prozac and Ritalin and that the CIA and FBI had visited Adam Lanzah for his hacking events and two years before saying he'd shoot up a school. This is all on record. And so we kind of talked about it some. And then the internet, 4chan and YouTube had videos with 10, 30, 40 million views. I mean, I'm the false flag guy. You know, I make films about false flags. I make films about Operation Northwoods. It's real. where it was a plan to have the CIA with their kids, board a plane under fake names,

have the plane blown up, but that's really a dummy plane and have another plane that they land in so we could launch war with Cuba and Russia. So crisis actors and stuff like this is an official CIA battle plan documents they brought to Kennedy, but Kennedy said no to the plan

under LL. MNSA, but that's a side issue. So there's thousands of points that go into this. So I'm already questioning it. We cover it some, not much, and then along comes some of these professors in Wisconsin and in Florida and in other areas, and they start saying, we think nobody die. And then Steve Pachanick, that had been the former head of CIA psychological operations on record,

and overthrown governments and stuff, he calls me and he says, no, it's really staged, believe me, you need to come out against this. And so I finally, a few years into it, go, okay, I can see how it could be completely staged. They've staged so much other stuff. those were just shows I did then we had a debate with a guy that a newspaper editor that said it did happen and a professor that said it didn't

I didn't even host the debate out of hundreds of thousands of hours of shows we did like 23 minutes that they put in the law to they said was questionable but you had like an ex-CIA I just wanted to know like was this something you drummed up in your in your mind or did one of your sources

come to you and say this is this this was fake Steve Pachinick that given me great information over and over again. He was in the CFR. He co-wrote Tom Clancy's books. Jack Ryan, he created that character with Harrison Ford. Right.

Ran the Camp David Accords. You look up his name and the assassination of the Italian prime minister. I mean, look him up. Okay. This guy's the real deal. He told me they've got bin Laden on ice, and they're going to roll him out right before the 2004 election. And then Walter Cronkite went on with Madeline Albright.

yeah, Bush has been Laden's dead body. They're going to roll it out as an October surprise. So I'm like, okay, which they didn't because they exposed it. So I'm going, whoa, Pachinich's the real deal. And Pachinic gave me, and then later they did roll out of his dead body. So he gave me thing after thing that was accurate. He told me, Trump's

going to win. All this stuff's going to happen. And so he told me, and I'm not blaming him. I'm just telling the truth of the story. He told me, he said, no, it's totally staged. And so at that point, like 2014, I go, okay, yeah, I think it's staged. But in the timeline of my show four hours a day on air we're talking 23 minutes of all this stuff together

most of the time i'm saying i think it happens again Hillary does opposition research against Trump says okay Jones is wild man he's got all sorts of crazy stuff he said which is true not perfect he even said the victims of the sandy hook massacre were child actors and no one was actually killed there i don't know what happens in some somebody's mind or how dark their heart must be to say things like that. We'll just blow that up, run almost $30 million of ads the last few months against Trump. Connecting him to. Yeah.

To me and Sandy Hook. And so that happened. Then Trump wins. Then they even go crazier. Then my ex-wife does a custody battle. As a Travis County judge had given me custody of my three children. that happened and now they see

50 news cameras like the OJ Simpson trial for two weeks it's all over the national news then all the lawsuits start by the Democratic Party law firms and once they get their discovery

and once they get our emails and text messages and everything nothing's there there's no premeditated let's make money off Sandy Hook they have judges in two jurisdictions Connecticut Texas who are Democrat Party operatives on record

they have them basically default us and say we're already guilty and then have show trials, the first of three that started, the first of three is over, to say that I'm already guilty and then tell the jury how guilty I am, and then here was the worst part. I don't have, well, an IRS audit just ended,

and so I had almost no money, but the IRS audited me for a year and actually found I overpaid. So now I've got $3 million. dollars. But as of a week ago, I had a million dollars. And with an organization, my big, I mean, I mean, that big, that is like, that is fumes. And so there's like a million 200,000 in free speech systems, barely enough to pay the employees, keep the lights on, pay the rent, and even try to buy product. That's, they run us to ground. No extra trust, no extra stuff

with my kids. You know, my kids have a few trusts left, like $400,000 total between all of them. And so I'm only telling you my financials here because I'm open to the world. They had a guy as the financial expert at the end of the trial two weeks ago. They wouldn't let us put on evidence who told them info wars and free speech systems is worth $130 million. And Alex Jones is worth $270 million. That's $400 million. And at that time, I had less than a million dollars in my bank accounts. Okay.

Thank God some donations and things came in. But I'm sitting there and the judge would not let us. put on our witnesses and we had sworn federal bankruptcy documents. You go to jail, those are a lie. We had sworn federal bankruptcy documents of what was going on and they wouldn't put that in. So we're slated for destruction. They said that's what they're doing to us. And I don't feel like a victim. I'm just ready to take whatever happens. But I mean, this is a royal screw job. And so I appreciate the time to tell the story. There's thousands of points. But here's the most important thing. Less than one-tenth of 1% of my news coverage in the last 10 years since

Sandy Hook happened was Sandy Hook. Most of it was covering the coverage of it later defending myself. So they took where I kind of flippantly said, yeah, I bet the whole thing stays, blah, blah, they'll probably take a clip of that and say, say, you said it again. No, I didn't say it was staged. I was quoting what I said before. And I just barely ever covered it, but imagine, you can zoom in on a grand assault and make it look like the Himalama. out. And so they... Well, let me ask you this, because the real question is, how long did you carry that perspective and when did you admit you were wrong? Because, I mean, I think we get the sense that, you know, that the only time you admit you're wrong is once you're finally being

sued by these families that have been hurt by this. So, you know, and obviously we can, we can check your video sources and you're on record. So when did you get off that perspective? and why? I mean, again, I don't have the exact timeline in front of me. The first two years, I think it happened, but I think they made it help the kid kill him because he's got CIA connections and FBI connections, Adam Lanzon. So you were saying they helped the kid prepare him to do this thing, was sort of where you were coming from to begin. Is that we just, is it? Yeah, that's the first. That was your first version of the first few years. Okay. And then for a year or so, I think, I think it might be staged. And then for about a year or less than a year, I think it might be

I think it was staged. Didn't say that in 20? And I'm allowed to say it about one. If I want to say the moon's made out of cheese and George Washington murdered Lady Diana, I'm allowed to say it. And that's free speech, man. Judge your own deal. But like, I'm literally saying, first couple of years I think they may help kill the kids

and protected the crazy killer. Then for about a year, I think, well, maybe it stays. For less than a year, I think, yeah, it's staged. That's the close. Then by 2015, I don't talk about it until 2016 for almost two years. So I've made it sit through court and read these timelines. That's why I know all this. So for almost two years, I never talk about it.

Okay. They're saying my bread and butter is this. I'm bored of this. I'm a Sandy Hook man. Nobody knows Adam Lanz's name. And then Megan Kelly wants to talk to me right after Trump gets elected 2017. And I tell her, I don't want to talk about Sandy Hook. She's, well, we may mention it, but no big deal.

She comes, the whole interviews about that. They don't sue me for that. My backup hope. What did you say in that? What did you say to her? What was your response when you were? talking to her about it. I mean, I told her I thought it happened. And then she goes, well, tell me the anomalies. Tell me why you questioned. Was that devil's advocate? The whole thing

is a giant hoax. I tend to believe that children probably did die there. At that point, and I do think there's some cover of some manipulation, that is pretty much what I believe. But then I was also going into devil's advocate, but then we know there's mass shootings and these things happen. So again, you're trying to have it always, right? No, I'm not. They didn't sue me for that because of the statute of limitations. They sued me because Owen Schroier, who's a great guy and was a sports broadcaster before he worked for Info Wars, who didn't even care about Sandy Hooker or know about it, saw Zero Hedge article questioning how, if they didn't give the kids bodies to the parents for a week, how they could say they held their dead bodies that day.

Zero Hedge has just published a story. Megan Kelly fails to fact-check Sandy Hook's Sandy Hook father's contradictory claim in Alex Jones hit piece. The statement he made, fact-checkers on this have said cannot be accurate.

So he questioned that and then they sued me for that. That's how they got the statute of limitations. You understand that I never even said the names of these people. Like I'm out to get them. I'm stalking them. I'm riding them down like Planet of the Age, man, and Charlton Heston, like I am in horseback

with bullwibbs destroying them. Let's be honest right now, because this, forget about who's blaming who or whether it was a gun or this and that. At the moment you realize, holy cow, I got this, I got this wrong and there are real parents that have really gone through a tragedy, you know, what do you, what goes on inside of you on that part of it. Forget, or do you just, do you just sort of defer your focus on all the things that were wrong

about the trial and that's how you get through it. Let me tell you. You want the inside baseball? I do. I want it. I'll give it to you. You say you're sorry for something the media blew up and that they made a big deal. Because no one was covering it back when I covered the internet and not believing San Diego happened. Like, we're not the presenters of San Diego.

We're not the ones. Like Jesse Smallen, he's up at 2.30 in the morning and 20 below zero and guys put a noose around his head and dumped. bleach on him and say you're in my country. I said on that morning after, I said, I think it's fake. You may assume me? I think it's fake. There have been over 100 hate crime hoaxes in the past decade.

These are documented ones. Remember some guy was trumping over Jewish tombstones in New Jersey and spray painting Nazi crap? And I said, you're wronged as a liberal. And if 99% of these are fake, I think it's pretty fair. You know, to question that Jesse Mullet, I'm sorry, his name is Schmutt Mullet, declares justice will be served as probe into attack continues. So I'm questioning if this is part two of all of that

when we have such a long history of that. That's just what I do. I think something's fake. I think it's fake. Okay. Once you realize justice is a perfect example. We call it fake. It ends up proving fake in court.

In this case, the moment you realize, oh my God, I got this one wrong. Only now these are young children involved. parents that have been through the most horrific thing you can imagine as a parent, as a parent, do you run through that? Does there thought about what would I be feeling now had some other Alex Jones done this to me? Absolutely. First, you realized the media took what you did out of context, put it in the news, made a huge news cycle to then hurt those people.

So you covered over here, and Haslin others admit they never heard of me until 2017. So you do this back on your timeline, and it's like this. No, no, no, they don't know who you are. They're not hearing it. Then the media takes its attention, and it goes straight up. So yeah, I'm sorry the media took my questioning out of context and then came to them. They admit came to them. The day she's on the stand, Scarlett Lewis, I had done a taping for my show before then,

and I was there for the deal. And she looked at me and she said, I heard you were just on the ear just now saying, I'm a fake person and I'm not real. Didn't say it. Didn't matter. She points at me and says, you said I'm fake today. That's my frustration. It's like, I didn't consciously hurt you. I'm sorry.

And then I'm sitting there the day she's on the stand. I went on the ear and I said, I think Scarlett Lewis is totally real. And I want to join our organization for her dead son. It's not an anti-gun group. It's about love for children. I think she's beautiful and real. And I think that her son died. I am so sorry.

And I think her husband's great. I think he's been employed by lawyers, but I really care about him. That turns into your kids didn't die. On the stand. And so what I'm saying is I wasn't consciously a villain. I didn't lie. I got things wrong.

And it was a very small part of what I did. The question would be for anyone out there, because this is the court of public opinion. Given that it's being blown up as big as it is, did you ever make an attempt to reach out to the parents to say, I'm sorry I got this wrong? I mean, I did it like 15 times or more. Really?

Yeah. I just never got a response. I mean, I shot apologies. I shot responses. I shot it all. What do you feel about it now? I mean, besides the obviously what is done to your life, as a father, have you put yourself in the position

had you lost your child and someone was out there, Sam, do you take yourself to that type of thought ever? Absolutely. I mean, four years ago, I apologize and said, I believe your children died, and I'm sorry for any pain, and I just questioned things everybody does, and I think your kids died before they sued me. I woke up this morning on Father's Day,

and I was holding my young infant daughter in my arms, looking into her eyes. sitting out on the back porch hearing the birds sing, and it just brought tears to my eyes, thinking about all the parents that have lost their children on Father's Day or Mother's Day, who have to then think about that. Parents should never have to bury their own children.

And that's why, on Father's Day, I want to reach out to the parents of the slain children at the horrible tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut, and give you my sincere condolences. I'd also like to reach out to any of the parents who lost a child at Newtown to invite them to contact me to open a dialogue. Because I think it's really essential we do that instead of letting the MSM misrepresent things and really try to drive this nation apart. Right now is a time for unity and peace in our country, I think, now more than ever. When I was, quote, convicted in civil court two weeks ago, they said Jones to do.

today finally admitted he lied. I didn't lie. I question things. They lied and said, Jones today finally admits that these kids died. That's a damn lie. I'm on Joe Rogan's show in 2019. I believe mass shootings happen and they're real tragedies. And I believe Parkland happened. And you believe Sandy Hookap. Absolutely. Sorry for the families and I'm sorry for your hurt and I get it and I've experienced crazy people now big time just like you have please stop saying that I'm saying it didn't happen I said that it means nothing they're gonna be in the newsdale next week saying when they when they find me guilty in Connecticut and Texas again you'll see the headlines Jones finally

admits children die because they have no respect for their viewers or readers they have no respect that they just ran that headline two weeks ago they're gonna run it again in two weeks, they're going to run it again in a month, they're going to run it over and over again, because they know the public doesn't have a memory. So, so, yeah, how many times do I say, I'm sorry? But they know how those of us that have a conscience to manipulate us, are you sorry, are you sorry, are you sorry, are you sorry? I'm at a gas station. Are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's what the communist did in in North Korea and China and Russia and Cuba and South Africa is these commissions where you're sorry

and then you're sorry and you're sorry and you're sorry over and over again. Will you please come on Alex for the first time ever on Del Big Tree show Jones admitted he lied. I didn't lie and I already said I'm sorry for years but the next show will be Alex just say you're sorry I'm sorry next show Alex you never said it before or you finally sorry I'm sorry. Listen, I'm mad at you about it. I'm just saying in a hundred years, they'll be at my gravesite with a camera

saying, is he sorry? Because WMDs in Iraq don't matter. Millions people die out from poison shots don't matter. Open borders, human smuggling, none of it matters. All that matters is I question a mass shooting the ultimate crime in world history, which is questioning official.

narrative. And they want to sell the idea that if you question an official narrative, you're the devil. I didn't in hindsight know how big we get or any of this stuff or how crazy this we get. And so now I know how the real propaganda works. And so I wish I would have made the mistakes I made. But I'm just saying every crime they claim I've committed, they took what I said and blew it up to cause the pain. Okay. So Donald Trump, a guy that you know more than I do, When we look at this almost war of light and dark, a lot of people put on Donald Trump that he in some way is this spiritual savior, that he is, he's going to be the anti-Iulminati, right? He's going to break this whole thing down, go in, destroy Central Reserve banking systems

that got us in trouble. He's going to take down this AI move, like he's a spiritual warrior, the QAnon stuff and all this. I don't buy that. Like, I don't personally in what I see in him, he may be. carry a Bible once in a while. I'm not saying he doesn't go to church, but I don't get struck by the sense that he and God are in this dialogue, and I know what I'm going to do today. What is your view of him? Is it? This is a huge subject, and I know who Donald Trump is. I actually know him very, very well, and if you want, I can lay it out. Okay, lay it out. Well, there you

have it. The first half of my interview with Alex Jones is quite a cliffhanger. There's an amazing second half coming up, but obviously we're not going to set a new precedent by doing a for our show. And so we're coming to an end here. But this second half gets into so much around, you know, Alex Jones being blown up to have caused the January 6th events and around Donald Trump. And what does he know about Donald Trump?

I'm telling you, you are not going to want to miss these insights and how raw this interview actually gets. It's huge. Here's just a taste of what's coming up with the, the second half of the Alex Jones interview. Get ready for the high wire shocking conclusion of the real Alex Jones. Monday, September 19th. Once described as Donald Trump's brain, Alex Jones reveals why he's about to jump shit.

Donald Trump is a jackass. Mr. President, you've got to come out against this. And then he takes us behind the scenes of the January 6th disaster. It was a nightmare. It was the worst day of my life. A shocking interview from one of the most disruptive voices in the world. I got things wrong. This is going to ruin everything.

They have no idea. Very sad. In the moment I found out I was under investigation for January 6th. Mr. Bigtree. I'm with the FBI out of Austin. The Real Alex Jones, Part 2, Monday, September 19th. Sign up for exclusive access now at thehighwire.com. All right, here's how this is going to work.

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done this. This means that when you get all of our show notes, all of that information I told you about, our transparency, all the science we talked about earlier in that dump that we do every single Monday will be your personal link to be able to watch the second half of my interview with Alex Jones. I want to take this moment personally to say that I never ever believed that this Sandy Hook event was a hoax. I have personally, when people have brought it up, because there are people that watch both Alex Jones' shows in mind, I just want to be clear, I always said to those people, and you know who you are.

When you brought it up, I don't buy that. I don't believe it. And I want to just say that to the families involved in Sandy Hook, I can't imagine what it was like to go through something that horrible. Really, I have children, we all do. It is unthinkable. And I can't imagine the things that I would be angry about or the people who would talk about it

or the guns that were used, all of that are natural phenomenons that only you understand and the rest of us can only sit back and try to understand. And I pray that nobody else on this planet ever has to experience anything that horrible. I want to put that out there. And I also want to say to the families out there that if you feel like your story hasn't been represented, you know, correctly or in any way that this platform is open to you. I would love to have a better understanding of your experience throughout these events. So the high wire is open to you to deliver that anytime that feels comfortable or right to you. And I mean that sincerely. I hope that those of you

that have watched see that what I meant at the top, that there's an extreme curiosity in me, what drives people. I don't believe I let Alex Jones up the hook and wait till you see this second half as we get into the details, things that he's blamed for, January 6th, we're going all the way there. But I want to say to those of us,

you know, as I watch it, you know, things that we can all learn, it really comes down to our bias. I think what we're watching is, you know, when I look at Alex Jones, and I imagine we're all wired differently, right? We're all taking on different, places in this world and things we do. Obviously, I am directly involved with trying to shift the

problems I see. I talked about our legal team. We're bringing lawsuits. That's how I'm wired. I get on here and I have an international team of scientists that are making sure that what we deliver here is of the highest quality and that you can really trust it. I'm transparent with you. That's how I'm wired. There are people that are generals that sit back and design everything for everybody else to do. And then there's those people that charge the bunker. I've not ever been in the military, but I imagine those guys on a team that always like to be in front and charge right in that gunfire and go right at that, you know, bunker. That is a special type of person. And I can't imagine a person that does that every single day of their life. They may start losing perspective of what

the world is in their world. It's all a battle. And I think for all of us, we have a way. We have a weakness. In humanity, I've seen it in medicine and science and doctors. Confirmation bias is what we call it, where we see something so often or we want to believe something so much that we start manipulating our own thoughts. And trust me, if you don't think you do that, then you need to check in with yourself. We literally have a part of our team that challenges us to make sure that we're not falling prey to you. Oh, that just has to be another vaccine injury. Oh, they're always wrong or they're evil. And that's what this really comes down to. Lastly, when I look at this, as I said from the beginning, my father was a minister. And one of the things that, you know, and I've

talked about this on the show, many of you say, Del, why won't you just admit that they're evil, that these people are doing this on purpose and they're killing people? I'll tell you why I don't. And it really, I think I understood it now in myself after being a part of this interview. And the reason I don't go there is because now you're blind. Once you see that human beings are evil, you can be angry, and you can make mistakes. Instead, I err on the side of caution. I err on the side of the understanding that I was raised with, which is in the end, we are all God's children. Alex Jones, Anthony Fauci, you know, everybody else in between. And if I hold that perspective, then it helps me stay clear.

I keep saying on this show, and I know it drives you all crazy, I believe Bill Gates believes he's doing the right thing. I believe these people think that they're saving humanity, even though what they are doing is they're playing God. Why do I say that? Because it allows me the humility to understand, I can't figure this all out, and I'm definitely not going to compartmentalize people

and make them different than me in a way that then clouds my judgment. We need to be less judgmental. We need to be more critical, though, in our thought. It's a balance. It's a high wire act. We don't win it every day. We don't stay balanced every day, but we need to catch ourselves in the moment

where we've been in a thought, we've been in a battle too long, too hard to really see that there may be other explanations for what's around us. You can think whatever you want about Alex Jones. You can think whatever you want about me. This is a free country. I want you to come to your own conclusions.

That's what this is all about. But we all need to work harder in these difficult times to start realizing that media is trying to make us hate each other. It is trying to make each other into villains, good guys and bad guys, inflate our egos if we're with the propaganda and go against those that are not with us. We can't let them get away with it. We've got to get back to being human beings. If we don't, we are all going to make mistakes with this world, with our own lives, with our children.

It's time to settle down. It's time to be able to have the important conversations. to listen to one another. Remember, in the middle of this is humanity, of which we are all apart. Don't miss the second half of this interview. It's amazing where this goes. Don't miss your opportunity to see all of the things

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This is the high wire. I walk it on purpose. I hope you'll walk it with me too. We'll see you next week.