The Highwire with Del Bigtree - LARA LOGAN FIGHTING THE AGENDA

Episode Date: April 25, 2022

Seasoned war journalist, Lara Logan, discusses her illustrious reporting career from the frontlines of the wars in the Middle East, to exposing the horrors of sex trafficking, and why she risked it all to report the truth.#LaraLogan #LaraLoganHasNoAgenda #NoAgendaBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

When it comes to speaking truth, there are very few reporters out there that have the courage to stand not just on their own platform like I do here on the Highwire, but to stand on the platforms of the controlled mainstream media and carefree and with courage and vigor and tenacity speaking truth to power all around the world. I am such a fan of Laura Logan. And here is the reason why. Take a look at this. I'm 60 Minutes correspondent, Lara Logan. Joining me now is Laura Logan. 60 Minutes correspondent Laura Logan joins us now.

Lara Logan, CBS News, Baghdad. In the few days since the United Front made their triumphant entry into the city, life has changed dramatically. People have either fled the city or are staying at home in anticipation of the bombing. The soldiers here find bodies done like this every day. The killers usually never found. You want to know how the war is going in Afghanistan. There's no better place to go than the tiny American combat outposts all along the border

with Pakistan. It just feels like this is one big target. We are one big target here. We're driving right to the Taliban villages. After 30 minutes of constant fighting, it was over. Do you believe the war on terror can be won if Osama bin Laden is still alive and if he's still out there? I think there would be enormous symbolic value in us capturing or killing bin Laden.

I have never done any kind of sycophantic stories with the military. I've always told it like it is. As much as I'm a good talker, I'm a better listener. So I listen to what the Iraqi people have said to me over the years. The great thing about covering something over 16 years is that you never forget the way that city was. That gives you a context and it gives you depth to your reporting. Let's bring in Laura Logan, host of the Fox Nation show. Laura Logan has no agenda. She has reported extensively, as we all have seen, from the southern border.

I think when we think of cartels, we think of drugs, narcotics, human smuggling, an increasing piece of the pie when it comes to their revenue. What really most Americans don't understand is that when they see this mass flow of people across the border, what they're looking at has been described to me as the largest form of modern slavery in the world. A Pimp from Tenon Sengo agreed to speak with us, but we had to meet him in the nearby town. of Puebla. The two girls with him are prostitutes. Yes.

I mean like he owns them? Yes. Can you refuse to do this? No. So you're a prisoner, really? Yes. What happens to you if you say no or if you, if you try? Well, no, no, we can't do it.

What is punishment? Well, us inciers or we have to work more. It's estimated there are more than 40 million human trafficking victims like them worldwide and close to 50,000 in the US. It's a modern form of slavery that's as evil as the old.

Difficult topic to cover, but something needs to be done about this. There is a process that as journalists that we go through to try as hard as we can to get close to the truth. the truth speaks for itself. I have a sense of responsibility and a sense of duty, and I believe that this is something that I was meant to do, and I believe in the importance of doing it, and that's why I keep going back.

I think the worst thing people do in television is simplify everything for themselves so that the process is easier. If you really want to report something worthwhile, you have to absorb every detail that you can physically and mentally and emotionally cook with, and then you need to report something worthwhile. Then you have to do your job and make it simple so that people can follow what you're talking about. And that you still, within that simplicity, deliver something that's meaningful. One of the few reporters on this planet that has not spent her career telling us about the world,

they want us to believe we live in, but sharing the one that actually exists and what we can do about, it's my honor to be joined right now by Laura Logan. Laura, thank you. Thank you so much. What an honor. I love your show, by the way. I really do. I love it.

Thank you very much. That means a lot. You've been out there. There's so many things that we can talk about, but just to begin with When we were trying to get you know celebrities and people involved in the defeat the mandates rally When I found out that you had said yes, I was so excited So first of all why why did you fly all the way out to California And to decide to be a part of that rally? Well, because it matters, right? Because this is a moment And, you know, it's kind of heavy and depressing. I was watching this show, and you made reference to this, right?

Which is one of the things I love about you is that you can read the room. And, yes, they start with this great celebration. And then, you know, you get this inside look on what they're trying to do now with COVID. And Shanghai is just devastating. And then it gets really dark with that lunatic. Noval. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. And so when you look at this moment, you can get very bogged down in the depression.

You can feel outnumbered. I mean, you've been under attack for how many years? Because you've been under the vaccines a lot longer than 90% of us, right? Yeah. And yet, there's people like you in almost every area that were attacked a long ago. Dinesh D'Souza is one of the early victims of canceled culture. So it was Bernie Carrick, right? We just didn't know what was happening then. And what I discovered at the match, right, which is what you find when you get out and you live,

is, wow, this reaffirmed exactly what I suspected is that the reason we feel like we're losing is that they're not telling these stories. I said that on stage. But I had no idea what I was going to say, and I was a little stressed about it because I wanted it to mean something. and I don't write canned speeches because I don't believe in that. Yeah, neither do I. Right, and it was important. So I just, I listened and I looked around me and I talked to people and what did I find?

It's like, wow, I cannot believe we don't know this. And it's the same reason I love your show is that every time I watch, when I get that comprehensive look and understanding, it's a comprehensive overview, but it's also, it's built, and supported with detail and with evidence, that transparency feature that you have where people can get the news that, I get the news that, and they can see the original source documents. You know, John Solomon does that on Just the News as well. And it's really, it's so interesting because people want to know what, you know, I don't know what to trust and I don't know where I can go.

And you're Jeremy Paxton, right? Jackson. Yeah, Jeffrey Jackson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said, Jeffrey, sorry. He said it. He said it. He said, please get this. because there's a lot of work that goes into it.

And that's the point. There's a lot of work that goes into this if you do it right. Yeah. And that's what you get from watching the show. And so how does all of that come into my decision? Why am I leaving my kids yet again, working yet again another weekend, not being paid, right? Because none of us going out there. That's a really good point to make.

Everyone on that stage donated their time to be there. Right. And why am I doing that? It even cost me money, right? because I'm paying for my transport and to the airport and from the airport and so on and so on. Why am I doing that? I'm doing that because we can either be believe the propaganda and be geographically isolated from each other and into our own homes and submit, or we can get out there and find out

what is real and what is not real. And this is a defining moment in our history. You heard all of those people talking about the opportunity for a revolution bigger than the Industrial Revolution. So you can look at that and say, wow, this is so much bigger than me, I surrender. Or you can save yourself, wow, we also have that opportunity. We also have that chance to define what the future looks like. Agreed.

And one of the ladies in your video, I love that woman. She talked about the rage of mama bears. Yeah. That's what they fear. Naomi Wolf, yeah. Fear us. Yeah. They fear us. That's why your life has been held for how long, Dell?

Well, I wouldn't say, yeah, we've been at this, I've been at this since 2015, really, where I got on this topic. I mean, I was working for CBS before that, had a really nice, pushy job. I was challenging things in there, too, but not at the level that I am. Like Cheryl Atkinson. Right, yes, Cheryl's fantastic. He's challenging things with vaccines and all that long before anybody else. And, you know, I never even thought about it. I was running off on the battlefield here, there, and everywhere. Let me ask you about that. I want to ask you about that, because when it comes to media. One of the things I keep reflecting on is, you know, you sort of, you're on your journey and I'm asking myself, like, how far ago did I leave the mainstream thought system? I was in it.

Was it always this bad? Or do you feel like there's a shift that's happened? And is there any, like, significant point or was it just a slow slide away from the truth? Nothing was a slow slide. First of all, there was no slide. Why? This is the most important. important, I think to me, thing for people to understand. This was by design. This is manipulated. This is not how things happen. In the natural world, you know, because we live in the natural world, right?

We live in the real world. You can go to California today, right now, and find what we found. Yeah. Look at that. Thousands of people that maybe we don't agree on everything. Look at Riza Islam. Right on the stage. I'm sure there's things that.

we would yell and scream at each other about. Right. In fact, Trevor Fitzgippon, one of the people who worked, that defeat the mandates, right? Trevor and I yell and scream at each other about Venezuela, right? And yet we have lost our ability to disagree with each other, but still find common ground, because we have been manipulated and pushed into focusing only on what divides us, not looking at what unites us.

Why? certain people benefit when we think we're divided and isolated and so on and so on. What does it do? It breaks the human spirit. I think it's so funny that the very man who is talking about Jesus is a made up story and God doesn't exist and so on and so on, then how are you becoming gods? How is this divine? If those things are made up and they're not real, how is this the, what is it you have

becoming right right yeah you're becoming a fiction you're becoming something fake right it is fake right it is fake because humans can never be god right right yeah and in fact our humanity is godlike because we are made in the image of god yeah right and and what do they want us to believe we watch all these superhero moves i love superhero right i mean i i grew up wanting to be a superhero why do you think i ran all over the world trying to help i think you are but you know i don't know i don't over this is going. No, I'm very aware of my human frailty. Every single day I'm reminded, right?

But our human frailty is exactly what makes us superhuman, right? That's the most sort of, that's the most extraordinary quality of all. Is that in a heartbeat, in a heartbeat, Del, we can choose to give up everything for somebody else. We can make a decision that is counter every ounce of our DNA. and that survival instinct that's built into us. And this is why electric cars can never be programmed to be like humans. This is why AI and machinery will never be human.

Because how do you predict when our courage is going to, we're going to rise or we're going to fail? We all say as parents I would give my life for my child. But would you? Would you? Some of us would. And some of us wouldn't. And some of us would give our lives for a child.

we've never met. We've never met. Right? And that's what makes us human. It's our frailty and our weakness as much as our strength. It's our fear as much as our courage. It's acting in the presence of fear, right? That's what real courage is. You can't make machines that understand this. You can make machines that mimic it, but you know what? They're as fake as Chinese purses. They're not the real thing. And this is the thing with China and all of these people. people, they don't create. They mimic and they copy and they steal. And I'm not dismissing, you know, Chinese creativity, but you have an entire nation that is based on strangling the creativity and the freedom and the life out of every citizen. Chinese don't build biolabs and medical facilities to save people. They build bio-weapons facilities to kill people and to control them. That's what they build. That's why U.S. intelligence monitors, everything they build, right? Every lab that they build has always been monitored.

And so how does that relate to what we're doing right now? I believe that as long as we continue, you use the clip of me saying get off Twitter, get off Facebook, get off Instagram. You cannot sit and whine about being censored and then pay money or contribute money to the very platform that is censoring you. You heard what Harari said. Right? We are the product. That's right. Our bodies and our minds. So there is nothing free. My mother, fortunately, was a wise woman who never finished high school, by the way, never graduated from high school. And yet, most of the wisdom that guides me in my life is the wisdom that has been passed down for generations. And much of it came through her. There's, she said there's nothing free. If you're, if there's something free, it's like, if you're sitting at a poker game and you're wondering who the mark is, you're the mark is, you're the We're playing poker right now.

Yeah. This is a poker game. It's a great analogy because there is no great a lie than the Great Reset. There is no great a lie than social justice. This isn't about justice for anybody, no matter what the color of your skin is, no matter how you've been disenfranchised, or, you know, how, whatever wrongs have been committed against you. This isn't about bringing justice to you. This is about obliterating all forms of justice. It's almost reversed.

I mean, so much of this is like reverse. much of this is like reverse psychology. You know, some of the, I think the most insidious part of this, of this pandemic is how they use empathy, the human empathy, take care of your neighbor. The reason you need to take this product that's going to make us billions of dollars is you need to protect your neighbor. And then in the end, oh snap, sorry, actually, you didn't protect anybody. You're barely protecting yourself, but it certainly isn't stopping infection, all these

things. But they play on our emotional space, yet in the back rooms, they really don't care about our humanity. As he's saying, we are all just useless bodies. And more and more, it looks, they just see us as, we're just literally just numbers. We're just numbers. How many numbers do we have to reduce to get to this final end and all those things in the work that you're doing? And I just feel when I think about humanity, and one of the issues that's really got us, another one that just gets us so divided is the border right now.

You've got Abbott is shipping busloads of, you know, he's being forced to have these people come across the border. The borders are becoming porous and wide open. He's shipping human beings to Washington, D.C., and letting them out there. We're seeing this all in the news. We hear about drug trafficking. We hear about human trafficking. And all of this is just getting lost. And don't you care about those children at the border?

And I just wonder, when we see these videos, it doesn't seem that they do care. There's something else going on. How does this all connect together? Well, Yovall Noah Harari just told you they don't care. He just said, what are we going to do with all these? useless, worthless people. What he's telling you is they're in our way, right? You're standing in our way. And so this is why I love watching your show. This is why I love watching you and talking to you, because you just went straight to the heart of one of the most important parts of this, right?

They play on our emotions. It is actually deception because they're using emotion to mask their real identity. agenda, right? And they're true intent. So, you know, and this is a very common tactic that once you learn to recognize it, you will see it everywhere. For example, gun control. There is no conversation about the Second Amendment that is ever going to sound wise and smart and convincing when you're sitting next to a mother or a father who just lost their child in Sandy Hook, right, in a shooting, a school shooting. There is no conversation about the border that you're ever going to win if you're arguing about whether people deserve a second chance or a chance at a better life or, you know, this mother and her children, you know, are good people or bad people, right? You're never going to

win that argument. That's why they frame all of these issues in those terms. And the number one thing that you will read over and over again. You can go to read momentum, the organization that gives you the framework for how to create your own movement, right? You can go to the Obama Foundation and see the rules for community policing and look at the Safe Cities Initiative

at the United Nations. You can go literally to Indivisible, the political arm of the Soros Foundation that is using to get people into city councils and school boards and, you know, and so on and so on. You can go to, I mean, literally one organization after another, their policies on gun control. And what do they emphasize over and over and over again? Focus on the emotional argument.

Do not address the substance. It's the same with COVID because we cannot argue with the emotion. Nobody is talking, for example, when that evil person from Harari, when he says, how are we going to deal with these worthless, useless people? We're going to deal with it. The only thing I can think of, gee, let me see is video games and drugs. Well, how does that relate to what we're talking about? You're bringing us to the southern border.

This is how it relates. So in the first six months of the last fiscal year, right? Fiscal years run October to October. So not this fiscal year that we're still in. But last year, in the first six months, because it's winter normally, October, right? Yeah. Through the winter months.

Numbers on the border are typically low. Last year was a record. It was 330,000, right? Around about. Yeah. Guess what it is for this year? I have no idea. Already.

In the first six months of this fiscal year. These are apprehension. So it would be 150,000 if we're on track with the really bad year we just had. So for the first six months, it is a million. One million. It's over a million. And that's apprehensions. Why is that significant? Well, because when you open the border like that and you give up almost entirely on security,

you're opening that border for everything. We can argue good, bad, I would say to you that's a trap. It's a political and emotional trap because the reality is there are good people coming over the border. But behind that, there is a lot of bad people. And at the same, at the same, at the same, time last year we had overdose deaths in this country reach over a hundred thousand there are a hundred and four thousand and we hear how much about it nothing the vast majority of those overdose deaths are opioids and now word is getting out about fentanyl but fentanyl right is the deadliest street drug in history of any country anywhere on the globe and where did it come from well a Belgian

pharmacist is the one who created it in the late It's used in our hospitals. It's a great drug for surgery because it works very quickly. You go way up and you come down really quickly. And that's what doctors want for surgery, right? Stem the pain. Well, how did we get this problem? Guess where it came from?

The same thing you were just talking about. The Chinese. How did they get it? Well, because we outsourced all of our manufacturing capability to China. So for all those pharmaceutical companies, thank you, Big Pharma. Yeah. Anyone who knows anything about the Chinese Communist Party knows that when you do business in China, they steal everything. They've got Chinese Communist Party people that have to be in your workplace, in your offices, stealing absolutely everything.

And then what do all the tech companies do? You know, they own an unlimited worldwide perpetual copyright of everything that you do. So when you emailing or when you're texting or when you're storing it on your cloud, they own all of that, right? every single part of it, the hardware, the software, they're giving it to the Chinese in order to have permission to operate. They're in order to make a lot of money out of you. So the Chinese took the analogs for fentanyl from our pharmaceutical companies. They figured out what's the deadliest thing we can do, and they started by mailing it to the U.S. It was a street drug. It was a mail-order drug initially, and then they farmed it out to the Mexican cartels. So the DEA is doing busts in Mexico,

And who are they arresting in Sinaloa? They're arresting Chinese pharmacists, Chinese chemists. They've got their kids in American universities learning how to be pharmacists and chemists and scientists and so on and so on. Why? So they can make narcotics in laboratories

that are super cheap, right? Super easy to mass produce can be made in, if you've got an apartment building, you can put 50 labs, labs inside apartments. You can't see it from there. There's no more poppy,

fields, right? What did the DA used to be able to do? Fly over, see the crops of the poppies and everything, know what opium was going to be like, know what cocaine was going to be like. And guess what? Like everything else, not the food that they make in factories, but the stuff that grows in the ground, you know, marijuana or whatever, yeah, that was, depending on who you were, that could have bad effects. Nothing like the faces of meth or fent or fent because these are chemical products made in factories, right? And they're killing. Who are they killing?

They're not just killing drug addicts and people that have got, you know, that have destroyed, obliterated their lives. DEA agents today are literally the PTSD, the suicides, the resignations, same full border patrol. These things are through the roof because what are they doing? The DA agents are going to bedrooms in suburbs and they're picking your children and my children and other people's children, 12, 13, 14-year-old kids who think they're buying an oxy, who think they're buying a Xanax, who think they're buying an adderil, and what are they buying?

A fake pill. It doesn't have any of the ingredients of those pills, but it has baby formula and fentanyl in it. And now they're mixing it into every other drug. So the DA just put out a law enforcement bulletin, right? It's called a bolode warning of a mass overdose event. They've invented a new term. We've got so many overdoses. The drug enforcement agency has invented a new term to cover it, and we don't hear about it in the media.

Right. Because these are the drugs that Yuval Noah Harari and all of his people are making sure reach our kids and reach all of us, right? Mass overdose events because there were 29 people who died of cocaine overdoses in five separate incidents. This is not just cocaine. This is cocaine mixed with fentanyl. A DEA agent told me in San Diego, we're sending our informants out trying to find, you know, pure heroin. We can't find pure heroin. Do you know what people are doing now?

You know what they're telling our kids to do? Number one, they're putting Narcan in our schools, every firefighter, every police station and school nurses. They're doing public service announcements, teaching people how to use it. Narcan is a medication that has saved countless lives because it reverses. the opioid overdose. But this is not fixing the drug problem. This is literally addicts are taping it. One deagion in Boston told me they find it taped to the walls, right,

with instructions on how to administer it for their kids or whoever happens to find them. And what they're not telling you is, as long as the brain is deprived of oxygen, any doctor will confirm this. The longer you are without oxygen, even when you come back from that, you may not be getting, depending on how long, you may not be getting complete brain function back. And guess what? I went to San Francisco. I went to Oakland. I was in the homeless camps talking to people. I was trying to find people to interview, right? Yeah. I went to camp, off the camp, off the camp. And I was, I was like, I cannot in good conscience put these people on television.

Their brains have been obliterated by these chemicals and by some of them from the overdoses, they come back from without proper brain function. So don't you wonder how everything, now a sudden we have an epidemic of mentally ill people? Where all these mentally ill people come from? And homeless, I mean, just the homeless, just talking about that. Like, I just think about, you know, I did a reality show sometime back before, you know, I was trying to get launched into a TV career with the homeless. And mostly it was alcoholism and you would see some drug use. But it just wasn't what we see now. Like, I mean, I saw a shanty town when I was in. Haiti after the earthquake like I was there reporting for the doctor's television

show and I was like my god can you imagine living like this and now in Austin Texas in San Francisco in downtown LA like one block away from where he had that rally you're starting to see American shanty towns and I'm just like what is this and and we're being told oh just like the the virus just learn to live with it just keep going as you are as more and more people are and as you said they're not healthy these are not healthy people this isn't someone that's just you know lost their job, there is a serious problem going on here and no one wants to deal with it. Last, you know, because we could go on all day. One of the things, you know, yeah.

That's exactly how they want us because know what those people are not doing. They're not joining the military. Right. They're not writing letters to Congress, right? They are not paying taxes, right? They are not raising like stable nuclear families. Families are breaking up. And who's the attack on? The nuclear family. Look at the Atlantic Monthly magazine. If you want a blueprint, right go to the Brookings Institute and the Atlantic Monthly and you know people like the Daily Beast for the more immediate one and you can see the roadmap for what they're destroying and for the propaganda when we look at all of those things the destruction of the family that we just we just want a lawsuit in Washington DC where they try to have 11 year olds where they actually

passed the law that 11 year old could get a vaccine and the law actually mandated the doctor had to lie to the parents to give them a fake vaccine record the school had to lie and give a fake school record and the insurance company had to lie to the parents giving them a fake billing, you know, record. Luckily, the judge did say you're breaking federal law. And they want to pass the same law in Los Angeles. When we have politicians wanting to break laws, you know you're in a shocking and scary moment. Not wanting to.

They are breaking. Are, true. And I say, people say, all these laws being broken, they're only broken if we don't stand up for that. Because we're going to get what we accept. As long as we accept it, there's no, that law is gone. Like, that right is gone. We've accepted it. And that's the only way they win.

if we accept it. Because acceptance is the same as surrender, it's the same as giving up, it's the same as going on your knees and grovelling in the dirt. And you know what? It's the same as being on Facebook and all these platforms and paying them, inflating their bank accounts. Right. That's what we're doing. Making them billionaires. Trillionaires.

Billionaires. Buy your next politicians. Buy your next right to censor you. We are funding all that. We're voting with our dollars. One of the issues that I don't really go near very often, probably because I cannot handle it emotionally. Like I'm so, I've said, you know, I've gone to some of the events that you've hosted and my wife, Lee, will go. And I was like, I'm so deep in this vaccine issue.

I can't look at an issue that I just feel powerless against. And for me, that it's human trafficking. It's somewhere that you've been very focused. There's so much of me that wants to say it doesn't exist. I think so many of us just want to say that can't possibly be that bad or whatever. Because it truly is, it's without a doubt evil. Anything else, you can somehow excuse it as greed. Well, they're just greedy.

They're trying to make money off the drugs. I mean, there's ways out. When it comes to human trafficking, there is no way to say that these are human beings, at least to me, that this isn't some form of evil. You're deep in it. you know when we look at leaders that are starting to lose track of humanity or a concern for the human body or the species itself is that mirrored in the work that you're doing I mean how deep does it go how dark is this world getting that in the places that you're diving into well we just had a woman elected to the Supreme Court who advocates for pedophiles over the victims, right? She says, oh, the laws are outdated. You know, it's not fair to sanction them like that. Because with digital technology, you're able to get many more pictures of kids than you would

before. But that means many more children in those pictures have been subjected to that form of abuse, right? And so I'm not okay with that. I mean, for me, it's like, it's very, very simple. I'm working with someone and I can't say too much about it yet, but I'm working with someone to create a platform that doesn't allow porn or trafficking of any kind. It's why I got off Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and YouTube. And yes, you know, I still have, you know, I'll still get sent something and I'll go on there and read it and whatever. So there's a process. You can't just go cold turkey if you like. I'm trying to, you know, to break those bonds. But I've broken them like 98%. And And what I can tell you is this, I was in, you played a little clip there, right, of the girls that I was interviewing in a town, just outside of a town in Mexico called Tin and Singo.

This is an entire town that is built on generations of sex trafficking. I interviewed a trafficker who told me he was 12 when he first went with his father and his grandfather to a very poor area of Mexico. And they bought a whole bunch of girls and they have a festival once a year. where they literally take all the new girls and they do this, they parade them around town, the whole town comes out, and, you know, men get to select the new virgins who are they going, they're going to rape that night. And that was one of the worst things that I have ever, ever, ever sat through in my life. Because at a certain point, I realized I'm sitting with these two young girls, One was 17 and one was 22.

The 17-year-old had been sold when she was 12, and the 22-year-old had been sold when she was, I think, 12 or 13. I can't quite remember. And what I realized in that moment, and I felt, I felt disgusting, was that everything I was talking to them about was going to happen that night. And I was still going to happen the next day. And I couldn't help them.

And I became a journalist because I believe that when people know the truth, they do the right thing. And I know that's true. And I had to sit there. And I realized for the first time, I've been a journalist for 35 years, but I realized for the first time that usually when I'm talking to people, they've been rescued from the Islamic State or they've survived the bombing or the massacre or whatever because they're alive to speak. to me or it's the parent who's lost a child who's talking to me. But then, there, there in that moment, these two girls are looking at me and I can see in their eyes and especially the older girl. I mean, she was just, she was screaming with every part of her body, help me.

And I said to the trafficker, because we interviewed them separately, I said to him when during his interview, I said, you know, there might be. people when they see this that want to help and want and have resources, have money. If these girls, if someone wanted to buy them, how much would they be? And he laughed at me. And I said, why are you laughing? I mean, how much? And he said, what are you going to give me?

What are they going to give? They want to pay $20,000, $30,000. He said, I can make that in a month. He said, every month, month after month. year after year. What are you going to pay me? That's going to make more money than that. And that's when you realize every person that is trafficked, they regard them that way. They're making that money. They're working seven days a week. They don't get time. When they're sick, they don't get to lie in bed, right? They have to go out and work again. And it never

ends for them. So you've taken, and for all these people who think, you know, everyone coming to the United States wants to come here. I asked those two girls, what about the United States? What about America? Would you want to come to America? And they both said no. I said, why not? It's not the answer I expected. And they said, the girls who go there, they never come back. Look at these girls. They're thinking, wow, the girls who go there, they go to a bad place because they never come back from them. And you start to realize they lose their education because they never go to school again. They lose their families, right? They lose their freedom.

They lose their hope. They lose their dreams. They never get married. They lose a normal life. They lose their everything. And now you're going to take their identity. They identify as Mexican or Guatemalan or whatever it is. And you're going to put them in a foreign country where they don't speak their language.

And you're going and they don't have no way. They don't know how to get home. They have no way of how to get home. And it's this form of Stockholm syndrome, right? They're being told anything out there. You don't want to leave. It's dangerous world with the drugs. They don't believe on their own.

You know, some of them, of course, do. But mostly what happens to them is they get fed, they get turned into drug addicts. Because how else do you get people to live with the terrible things that they have to do night after night? I mean, I mean, and I asked him, are you going to be raped tonight again? And they said, yes, of course. And you know what the worst part of the whole interview was for me, like the part where I just, my throat closed and I couldn't even talk anymore? both of those girls told me the stories of how they were sold. What happened that day?

They remembered every detail, right? And for both of them, it was their mother, who was the one who came to them and said, you have to do this for us and for the family and for your brothers and sisters and everything. So there was that real sense of betrayal for them. But when I asked them, if there was one thing in the world, if you were free, And this was over. What would be the only thing in the world, the most important thing in the world to you? What would you want more than anything else?

They both said, to see my mother. You talk about mama bears raging. That's why, because they can take everything from us. But they cannot take that bond that mothers, fathers have, with their children, with your blood, that love that you have. That is a love for every child. It doesn't even matter if it's not my child. My house is a refuge for children. It's a place for children.

I don't want my kids going to someone else's house every weekend. I want all the kids at my house. My husband sometimes says to me, you know, even when I'm not home, I'm traveling work. He's like, do you realize we have like 22 children here? Like, I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill you. Right? I'm going and, and that's, that is not just me.

That's how every decent person, people all over the world feel that way. We'll fight for each other's children. We won't just fight for our children. That's why there are people who don't even have children who are saying, you know, whose children are maybe growing up who are fighting for their grandchildren. It's why every single person at that march, who I talked to, what did they say? I am doing this because I know my time is done. I mean, Dahl, I'm 51.

How old are you now? Just right there. actually I turn 52 tomorrow. I guess it's tomorrow. Happy birthday. Thank you very much. It's, yeah. But what we live, our children live in a world.

This is what the prophet, Lebanese philosopher, Khaled Gabran said. They live in a world we cannot enter, not even in our dreams. And that world is tomorrow, right? That's the future. But you know what we know? We know that the Spartans fought for freedom. When was that? How many years ago?

was that. The enduring things don't change. There is the commandments that we get from God, right? There's the natural laws and principles that come from God that we then have taken, especially in this country, and made into laws, right? Where we say, this is how we're going to live. And those things, thou shalt not kill. They don't change. They don't change. They survive. This is why Shakespeare is relevant today. Right? What did Wordsworth warn us against? Wordsworth, as a poet and a wordsmith, warned us against emotion without meaning and substance. And what do we have today? We have emotion without meaning and substance. They figured out how to manipulate us. Give us all the emotion. Just pour the emotion at us without any of the meaning and the substance.

And what does it become meaningless? Yeah. It becomes meaningless because we are created in a balance and a whole, right? Now it's no fat. Then it's keto this and no. Everything we need to survive is in the natural world Yeah. Because we survived. How do we know that? Because how long did humans survive? We're still here before we had factories. I agree before we had vaccines before we had drugs before we had smoothies. We were here We needed to survive. Let me ask you this final question. Why are you doing it? I mean when you do these reports like you're out there you've you know It hasn't, I know it hasn't been great for your career because you push the envelope.

I don't have to ask you about it. I know you've pushed the envelope too far for mainstream. You hold on like you're in there, but you know, 60 minutes, Fox, you've worked for the best of them, you've challenged all of them. But when you do these stories, when you tell this truth, what is your hope that these cameras, that it's going to go into these cameras on the other side of these cameras out there in the world, in your mind, what is the result? How is it, how does it make a difference? God grant me this serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference. I don't control what happens out there. That's not my job, it's not my purpose.

I never think about that, ever. My entire reason for being is to understand and figure out the truth and put it in a form and in a way. I am the happiest when I am, what I do best is when I am the vehicle for something and someone else. I'm taking you into this person's life. I'm taking you onto a journey to a place you haven't been. That's what made 60 minutes so great. I wanted to vomit. Literally, I wanted a vomit when I saw Harari, Yvall Noah Harrahra on 60 Minutes.

I wanted, I mean, I wanted to vomit and cry at the same time. because here you've taken something so great and what did you do with it you had the opportunity to do something that really mattered to look that that evil evil evil horrible man in the eyes and really make that interview count yeah and did you did you do that because there's a lot resting on this moment so what what i thought the same thing i was watching i think is it Anderson cooper says like what are you doing sitting there like what oh oh oh Okay, okay, that's perfectly fine. Like, no challenging question. No, like, oh, all right, well, you're going to go there. Let me throw some stuff at you. It's like, la-da-da, everyone, we're all down with them. I mean, it's crazy.

I'm thinking, what is going? Can you imagine? I mean, I want to be that interview. I mean, I know you want to sit across from that guy. Oh, I mean, I'd love to sit across. Let's have this out. You know, and that's exactly the point, right? Is that where is that skepticism?

Where is that critical thinking? Where is that real journalism? Where is the balance of reporting? It's just, it's extraordinary to me that we've reached that point. I listen to a, there's a great YouTuber out there, DeAngelo Wallace. He's a young black kid, and he does an hour-long take down on the moment Shane Dawson's career ended. And I don't even know if his career has ended. And if you don't follow all of this, look up that video.

I posted it. This is the moment that I realized, okay, I got to get off these platforms. Because he breaks down. This guy is sitting, you listen to the clips of him, being interviewed by all these people, talking about a new thing. Zophilia, not new, but a new term, which is bestiality. I mean, it's not just all the transhumanism, and pedophilia and so on. This guy's talking about sex with animals. Right.

And the co-hosts on these shows are laughing. They're laughing along with him. It talks about flipping his cat over and blah, blah, blah. You don't even want to hear it. It makes you want to vomit. But why did I listen to it? Because my son's the one who told me about it. He heard me talking about the USA Today Life articles saying not all pedophiles, you know, rape children and not all rapists and sexual abuses are pedophiles.

It's part of this normalizing. Sure, let's normalize it. Yeah, right? Man, I can't tell you how I predicted that coming years ago. Just you just may reflect on with a friend. I said, you will see a day when they normalize these things. So my son says, oh, mom, no, you know, when I hang up the phone, he's like, oh, it's not just kids, it's animals too. I'm like, what? What are you talking about?

And he shows me this video. And I realized, you know what? This is the moment where it absolutely ends. I am not going to be part of this. I don't care, you know, if I never make any money, right? I'm going to figure it out. I don't care if, I mean, I'm working seven days a week. I'm sure you are too.

And have been year after year after year. And I don't make a fraction of what I ever made. In fact, don't even have an income and an employer, stable income. that I speak of yet. And I just tell my kids, I'm hiring myself so that no one can fire me again. But what I know is what motivates me is that I was born for this. That's the only thing I was ever meant to do. I was given a gift.

My gift was you don't ever have to second guess. You don't have to wander. You don't have to take all these different classes in college and change careers. Your gift is you were born knowing why you're here. So nobody else is table why you're a table, right? That's just it. We accept that this is a table. Well, that is what I've accepted from the beginning.

I've always wanted to be this. I've always wanted to understand. I've always wanted to see it for myself. And I know. I know when I'm in a village in the middle of nowhere, and I've got, and I hold of somebody's hand, and I just listen. And I can promise them nothing.

I don't promise them that their lives are going to change when people watch this story. How would I know? I don't even pay attention to that. I'll be honest. That's not a mock for me. I know whether I went out there and I did something that mattered and I told the truth and I did it to the best of my ability. And we don't always get it right. We don't because we don't always know.

In fact, we know so little, right? But the purpose is that if you hold on to the principles and you remind people, right? You don't just let people say whatever they like on your show. You don't just make brand statements. You ask them, well, what do you base that on? Well, how do you know that? And then you go and look into it yourself. And you listen to alternative points of view and you try to figure out what the truth is.

And it's not a perfect process. But it's a difficult process. And it takes a lot of work. And people know when there's a difference, they can sense it. Yeah. Right? And it endures. You've endured doubt because you were, I mean, what did you do? You used to go there and sit in those meetings at the FDA and just film the hearings. And people said you were lying. And all you did was film the hearing and put the video out.

This is their words. I've been fact-checked on videos where I left nothing except the scientists doing their own speaking, showing they said this one day. They said the exact opposite. Another day, you know, and I just asked, Are they lying and fact-checked? Kind of like the hundreds of people at the match we were at. Yeah, hundreds, hundreds, right. That, those are the fact-checkers. They're the ones fact-checking us. They can't even add or count.

You don't know one of my favorite Del Big Tree stories? I don't know. I don't know. Praise myself. We're live. Let it rip. I don't think people understand how funny you are, you know, because you're serious. And people say this to me, right?

Oh, you're much funnier than I knew. But when you spoke at that one event in Spicewood, when you told that story about that journalist, remember when you were hospitalized? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you remember what you said? Go ahead and say it. The only person more interested in my asshole than me?

Was this journalist writing all these stories about what happened to you? That's right. Yes, I do remember saying that. Did I actually say that in front of an audience? Yes, you actually did. That's what happens when you just. like you said, I don't script it out and like come up with some, you know, cookie cutter script. Well, Laura, you know, you are such a dynamic human being and you represent what, and it's

such an honor to have you on the show. And I hope what people are hearing is what it means to follow your guidance, to follow your journey and your destiny. And I think, you know, you answered it perfectly well, and I've said this. People think that I have some plan for the future, see it down the road. And the truth is, is I'm immensely curious. I am so grateful to all my audience out of there that have made this possible that I can ask whatever questions I want, that I don't have to answer to a pharmaceutical company that's paying my check, that I literally get to go out and ask the questions as I feel them, as I seem as I'm guided to ask, to meet these people and show them to the world, to show the truth, to show what the WHO is actually saying,

to show what, you know, Anthony Fauci and the discrepancies and the science. And people, I believed it from the beginning. When I started this in a little closet, I said, if we show the truth when no one else is, that may not be everyone in the world. I don't know if that's going to be the biggest audience in the world, but guess what? I know there's an audience that cares about that. There's an audience truly that cares about what you're doing, and it is so spectacular. You are so courageous.

You go into places that I'm not sure that my guidance would ever tell me that I need to be there in the middle of a war zone, you've stood in it, dangerous interviews. I just wanted to honor you in your integrity and your journey. And in any way, if we can ever help share a story or help bring a focus on some of the work you're doing, please let us know how we can do that. And same here, I feel the same way. I know, you know, you've been in a war zone of your own. I mean, it's a really, it's a really lethal war zone, right?

When you get into the realm of big farmer and all the rest of, all that money, that is at stake there, all the power players, you know, that, it's the same thing. It's kind of like I get, I feel so embarrassed when people will say to me, you know, I've only been raped once, you know, I know it's nothing like what you went through because you were gang raped. It's like, no, I mean, you were raped. Okay, that's enough. Yeah. It doesn't matter. One doesn't cancel each other out.

And it's the same thing that I feel here. single one of us is a warrior in a sense. Yes. And there are people right here in Texas in my town who are fighting a battle just on what books are kept in the libraries. Important battle. In our schools. So, so important. Yeah, and it's really stunning because they get misrepresented all the time.

They've been called terrorists by our own government. Yes, yes, called terrorists and not just called terrorists, prosecuted as terrorists. And let's not forget, right? There are people sitting in jail right now who have never been convicted in a courtroom. And they've been there for more than a year. Those are people from January 6th. They have been there for more than a year. Julian Assange is dying, was dying in Belmarsh and is now going to be extradited, right,

for the crime of exposing the truth. I mean, whether you like him or don't like him, is that what we really think should be happening to Julian Assange? Is that what we want? Well, I think the sooner or the better, let's go ahead and have a public court case. Let's put the video cameras on this and let's see what we all think of what's taking place with these. These things need to be in the public eye. And I think that that's the key. They don't want us to know how many people are standing up.

There are warriors everywhere. They say people need to wake up. No, there are millions of people who are awake. We don't hear their stories. You know, any other time, huff those people on stage with us in L.A. would have been on the cover of magazines and featured on 60 Minutes and you would have been seeing their stories everywhere. With another form of censorship is omission. Yep.

Right? Omitted from the narrative, like that letter in the L.A. Times. Can't we just ignore these marches? Right. Can we just ignore them? It'd be hard. You can hear it for miles around, but yeah, let's ignore it. Well, you're not allowing, you know, the things you care about to be ignored. Neither am I. And so I just want to thank you for coming in today, taking this time.

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