The Highwire with Del Bigtree - MAHA COMMISSION CALLS FOR HEALTH OVERHAUL

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

The MAHA Commission’s latest report is out—128 bold recommendations to turn the tide on America’s health crisis. From cracking down on pharmaceutical advertising to overhauling vaccine injury re...porting, the proposals signal a seismic shift in public health policy. Plus, growing evidence points to a link between Tylenol use and autism. Multiple studies now point in the same direction—raising questions too big to ignore.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 At the beginning of the week, there was some massive positive news, and this was the headline that came out of there. We have the Maha Commission. Remember, this was Trump's executive order that he put out and he wanted to end the chronic health disease in children in America. Kennedy was tasked to do that. The Maha Commission was put forth and set up. This is the second report they've released, and now this Maha Commission report has a 28, 128 recommendations to do this. And what's really positive about this is now that getting into some things that touch our audience, which are the vaccines, the SSRIs, the antidepressants, fluoride. I want to go into this report now and look at that. But first, from that
Starting point is 00:00:42 presser, the MAHA Commission had a roundtable, and they had the heads of every health agency who are part of this MAHA commission. And they all were talking about how much, how many strides they've made to this, to this point already. But a question came up. This was from the press, and oftentimes the press catches people off guard. You get the most candid moments. And Kennedy had this to say about vaccine injury. Take a listen. One of the things we've learned in our investigation
Starting point is 00:01:09 is that about 80% of the people who contact the vaccine adverse event reporting system, they've made it so difficult to report a vaccine injury that they give up before reporting it. The doctors are discouraged from reporting it. They're not compensated. It takes them about 30 minutes on average to report. reported injury and they also have disincentives from reporting it. We're changing the system.
Starting point is 00:01:32 None of the people who reported injuries are ever followed up with. We're going to start following up and find out what kind of genetic vulnerabilities, what kind of other vulnerabilities they have. We are recasting the entire program so that vaccine injuries will be reported. They will be studied and that individuals who suffer them will not be denied or marginalized or vilified or gaslighted. It will be welcome and we will learn everything that we can about them so that we can improve the safety of these products. So that's new information there, Dell.
Starting point is 00:02:05 80% give up trying to report an injury. They give up and the injuries when they are reported, they're not followed up on. I mean, 80% of these small fraction of people that even know there's a VERS system, it blows my mind how many doctors I run into, even pediatricians that never even heard of VERS. So, you know, when you think about those people that go out of their way, they know the system exists, 80% of them just give up trying. And you see numbers like we saw from COVID-38, over 38,000, I think, reported deaths at this time from the COVID vaccine.
Starting point is 00:02:42 And of course, they'll scream and yell, oh, those, that's not, those numbers aren't vetted, which is true. Anytime those numbers have ever been vetted by a professional body, the studies show that they're underreporting to the tune of they may be capturing. less than 1% as several studies have said or as high as 10%. But the only thing that we know about those numbers is, if anything, they're lower than the reality, at least has been in every study ever done. So, I mean, that's where we're at. And I just want to just really, because it should be weak celebrating an HHS secretary that is finally doing what
Starting point is 00:03:19 should have been done for decades. From the moment we had a vaccine program, this should have been the approach. We're going to take your injuries seriously. We're going to listen to your report. We're going to call you back, ask you more details, your genetics, get to the bottom of this. Not gaslight you, shut you down, make sure that you have to pay for all of your own damages, that you end up being broke and catastrophically, you know, have to handle the rest of your life, lose your house and everything while no one listens to you and none of us get to the bottom of what's going on. Are the genetics susceptibilities? What's happening? How big are those susceptibilities? Is there a way to test for it?
Starting point is 00:03:55 All of the things a modern society should have been doing before we were modern. So thank God for Robert Kennedy Jr. He just continues to really put his foot on the gas now. It's been a very exciting few weeks. Right. And many reasons it's why this show was started because of the critical mass of people that have been left, excuse me, without representation with vaccine injury. So we go into this report here.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I want to just take a couple segments of it because, again, there's 128 recommendations. A lot of them are already in the works. We've been hearing about them, cleaning up the ultra-processed food, taking out the dyes and the toxins out of the food. But for our audience, we go into this part right here. It says this, vaccine injury. There's a whole segment of this, and it's right at the beginning. HHS, in collaboration with NIH,
Starting point is 00:04:37 will investigate vaccine injuries with improved data collection and analysis. So they're going to finally improve on VAERS, including through a new vaccine injury research program at NIH Clinical Center and may expand to centers around the country. Then it goes into vaccine framework, says the White House Domestic Policy, Council on HHS will develop a framework focused on ensuring America has the best childhood vaccine schedule, addressing vaccine injuries, and modernizing American vaccine with transparent gold standard science.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Now, you and I both know when gold standard science starts to really get their hands into vaccine safety, I think we know what direction this is going to go. And I think at best, informed consent for everybody and the right to choose what goes in their bodies is the best way forward here. And let's go back into this report. Now, we talk about fluoride a lot. The EPA has fluoride sitting on their desk to do an assessment on to get this out of the water. EPA will review new scientific information on the potential health risks of fluoride and drinking water
Starting point is 00:05:31 to inform centers for disease control intervention recommendations. So that is now on the docket. They must do this. HHS will inform a mental health diagnosis and prescription working group to evaluate prescription patterns for selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. Those are SSRIs, antipsychotics, mood stabilizer, stimulants and other relevant drugs for children. And then it also goes on to say HHS will also evaluate therapeutic harms and benefits of current diagnostic thresholds over prescription trends and evidence-based solutions that can be scaled
Starting point is 00:06:01 up to improve mental health. So this is this is massive because they're looking at a lot of these prime movers that are that are just devastating the health of children and young young adults here. We have the vaccines. We have the SSRIs fluoride looking at the food. This is this is kind of the magnumopus here of Mahan. This is their move forward, 128 recommendations, movements. They can be checked off now.
Starting point is 00:06:26 This is being worked on. And the second Kennedy was done with that press conference. He moved to the White House. He went over to the White House with President Trump to sign an executive order. He was grabbed by Fox News directly after that signature of that executive order. And this is what he had to say. Okay. The president just signed an executive order that's an historic change.
Starting point is 00:06:49 in the way that pharmaceutical advertising is done on television. And the order basically reinstates, or gives us now the opportunity to reinstate the 1997 rules. Prior to 1997, pharmaceutical advertisers were required to put all the side effects on their ads. Many of them didn't advertise because it lengthened because of what it did to the length of the advertising.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And that, the removal of that, requirement that in 1997, FDA changed the rule to allow them to report the side effects on a website or on a telephone. And they only had to report a few of them on television. And that triggered a proliferation of these ads. There's only two countries in the world that allowed to direct to consumer advertising by pharmaceutical companies on television. Or one of those countries, New Zealand is the other. It's had a disastrous impound. on human health, on people's relationships with their doctors, and really on the entire Gestalt,
Starting point is 00:07:56 where Americans are led to believe that there's a pill for every ill. And that you don't have to exercise, you don't have to pay attention to your diet, whatever goes wrong with you, you can fix with a drug. So how much does this change the dynamic? For pharmaceutical companies that have been advertising on all kinds of channels and even online, they're going to have to do a lot more specifically.
Starting point is 00:08:17 They're going to have to report all their side effects. In some cases, that might create an advertisement that's four minutes long. Back prior to 1997, advertising in magazines had page after page after side effects reported. And so we don't know exactly what it will do, what it will do, but we know it's going to be better for health of the health of America. So drug companies spent almost $11 billion in 2024 on direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical advertising, and these are going to hit the bottom lines of Big Pharma, but it's also going to hit the media advertising companies that rely on this money, the corporate media, for their funding. So you're going to see, like Kennedy, Secretary Kennedy said there, he doesn't know exactly
Starting point is 00:09:07 what it's going to do, but you can imagine it's going to make it a lot more difficult for news agencies to operate that have been breaking in this money. and there's a lot of people that say, why not ban them altogether? But this seems like a middle move that makes it most sense. Well, I want to jump in there because I have had the privilege to being in several conversations with the people that were involved in making this decision. I wasn't there recently, but, of course, working on the campaign and then as we were coming closer and closer to the election, one of the things that I learned as we all started
Starting point is 00:09:43 sitting down and discussing this. As we've talked about, Bobby has said on stages for years, and as have I, get rid of direct-to-consumer advertising and we can clean up this problem. The sort of mantra that hypnotizes America is being driven by mainstream news and even, you know, cable news that are all taking massive funding from the pharmaceutical industry. Between 50 and 70 percent of your advertising is coming from pharma, which means, as we've said it so many times, Jeffrey, that news anchor you think you trust can't do a story against a drug or vaccine even if they wanted to. And forget it if you're a reporter and you're way down the food chain.
Starting point is 00:10:26 No one is allowed to cover these stories, which is why we created the high wires, which is why we're all alone when we first started on this. I mean, even bloggers and vloggers wouldn't do it because YouTube, you know, would cut the feed. but we've been wanting to get rid of direct-to-consumer advertising because if you could get that, as you said, $11 billion out of the hands of these networks and say you're going to have to raise money the old-fashioned way,
Starting point is 00:10:54 you're going to have to have an audience that cares about what you're doing, and go back to selling diapers and things like that. That will create, I believe, and I want to say this as a reporter, as I came from CBS. I worked on the daytime talks for the doctors. There are other Dell Big Trees in there. There are other Jeffrey Jackson's that are reporters that care about these issues. We'd love to get into a dynamic investigation, but they can't because of this pharma funding
Starting point is 00:11:20 that has got a white-knuckled grip. It literally is controlling a television set. And I want to also make it clear because this is the center point of the work that we do. Everyone needs to know that television, though you see it as entertainment, it is simply seen as a billboard. That's what it is. when you work in television, as I did at CBS, that is a billboard and your job, whether it's a sitcom, a drama, a cop, you know, show, or the doctor's television show,
Starting point is 00:11:49 or the news. It is only there to hold eyeballs on it so that when it shifts over those commercials and that billboard starts doing what it's designed to do, that those eyeballs stay there. And so they will do whatever it takes to keep your eyeballs on that billboard. That's what it is. When you walk, when you look at that thing in your house, know that it is. is designed to brainwash you. It is designed to sell things to you. And if you think you're strong enough to overcome it, you're not. But back to this decision. You know, a lot of people will
Starting point is 00:12:18 say, well, why don't you just cut direct to consumer marketing? What I want to say about those conversations is we got deep into them into the legalities. Number one, if you're just going to say to the pharmaceutical industry, you're not allowed to advertise at all. You know, pamper's can, you know, diapers can and football can and, you know, Budweiser can. But you can't. It really is a violation of the First Amendment right of that industry, which Donald Trump would never want to be a part of. One of the center points of his entire candidacy right now is around First Amendment rights.
Starting point is 00:12:51 It's what we're all talking about in these tragic events around Charlie Kirk. So how could we be hypocrites and then say, well, we're going to break your freedom of speech, the First Amendment right for the pharmaceutical industry to advertise like everyone else? No, instead, this was. was the compromise. And by the way, when you really look at it, nobody believed that this would win in the Supreme
Starting point is 00:13:15 Court. If you took away the First Amendment rights, by the time Farma, who can easily afford all the lawyers needed to run that case, it's hard to imagine that you would win this First Amendment argument if you took their rights away. But I will say that by simply say, no, you're going to just deliver informed consent. You're going to have to put every known side effect to that product. into that commercial, really, I think it's going to be a poison pill for a lot of ads. And frankly, I don't think any of us want to sit through a five-minute rash commercial.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I mean, just look at this is what you would, this is dependent list of adverse events of special interests on one of them. I mean, just imagine you have to read all of those out loud in a commercial. I'm not even to attempt it, but I mean, but a voiceover actor, how long is it taking to say, deletion syndrome two, hydroxy, glutleric, essentially. aciduria, nucleotidase, increased, acoustic neuritis, acquire. I mean, you get the idea. There'll be a lot of money in voicemovers, I'm sure, but no one's going to sit through that. So really, this may be, I mean, it is one of the center points of the requests that we've had for
Starting point is 00:14:27 President Trump. I think this is right up there with remove liability protection. Get rid of the stranglehold the media has over this conversation that they're being funded to push now. I mean, what's left on the table? It's the 86 Act. It's, can we get rid of liability protection and sue the manufacturer? So now you don't own the television and now, and we get rid of mandates and your ability to, you know, to force this product on us, and then we take away liability. Jeffrey, this is one, this is one of three things that absolutely would allow us to say, I think, mission accomplished. So a huge, huge strike across the plate this week. by Robert Kennedy Jr. and President Trump.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And thank you, President Trump, for making this move. It was bold, it's brave, and it's huge. And this is at a time when corporate media organizations are experiencing historic layoffs. You're seeing newsroom shutter. You're seeing large groups of editors being laid off. A lot of people are moving into independent media. Independent media, this new paradigm is essentially extinct in corporate media.
Starting point is 00:15:34 So this is the last thing they need right now. I really expect to see some changes immediately from this within the next month or two. We're going to see, you know, they may not say because of the pharmaceutical ad that Trump just signed that this was the reason. But you're going to see, I think, some more mysterious layoffs or some more cancellation of shows. And so the FDA said they're going to act swift about this. They're actually sending out, they've sent out 100 plus cease and desist letters to pharma companies. This is the crackdown. They've launched on deceptive drug advertising.
Starting point is 00:16:04 So this is the letter they've been sending out. You can see there in bold, you are hereby directed to remove any non-compliant advertising and bring all promotional communication into compliance. So that's how this works. The handoff, we have a compliant FDA that's going to push this, which is what's needed. That's where the rubber meets the road. Now, the other part of this conversation, the autism conversation, now it's been said that Kennedy is going to release a report.
Starting point is 00:16:31 He mentioned it during conversations with Trump during the roundtable meetings, saying that in September, which is this month, he'll have a report, the beginning of an investigation on the causes of autism. We see the Wall Street Journal. They jumped a gun with this, and I want to talk about, we'll talk about media literacy here and how to look at this. So RFK Jr., HHS to link autism to Tylenol use in pregnancy and folate deficiencies. So you go into this article, and it talks about Tylenol, it says this upcoming report is expected to suggest other potential causes of autism and suggest further study. People familiar with the matter said. So there's no names, it's anonymous sources, and it's interesting here because I don't know how the genesis of
Starting point is 00:17:12 this article started, but if this was a plan to leak some of the information by HHS or the circle around Kennedy, then good on them. But if there are leaks within this organization, Wall Street Journal appears to be jumping onto this because by putting this out and saying, you know what, it's just Tylenol, that's all people are going to remember because when they see the first headlines, anything under that is going to be, well, no, no, it was just Tylenol. That's what was reported. So they're getting ahead of this. And by saying it's just Tylenol, it upsets both camps. Mainstream doctors will say Tylenol is the safest drug we've ever had. This guy is really dangerous. And our group, the people that have been fighting for transparency and justice around
Starting point is 00:17:55 this conversation or trying to find out what the epidemic of autism was caused by, they're going to say Tylenol, how dare he do this? So it upsets both camps. But I digress. on that because after this report comes out, it's interesting because no one says anything about anything else. It's Tylenol, it's maybe folic acid, but you have, again, Scott Gottlieb comes out, Pfizer Board of Directors, and he makes the media tour once again, this is the second time he's done this. Here's the headline, RFK Jr. may link Vax aluminum adjuvant and autism, former FDA chief says. So he's very concerned about this aluminum adjuvant. He's very concerned about it disrupting the vaccine industry. Very interesting how he keeps coming out of the wordwork, even though no one's talking
Starting point is 00:18:34 about aluminum at this point, he seems to have a really, really big focus on this one ingredient in the vaccine. No doubt. He still has friends inside of the agency where Robert Kennedy Jr. is trying to get everybody focused and to do real transparent work in science. I'm sure if he's stating it, I would take his word for it. There must be serious conversations going on. As we know, in the work that we do, aluminum is going to be one of the major topics. And to the same point, that came up in the debates at the hearing of the Ron Johnson. You can look at vaccines and see no placebo-based trials. By the way, same thing for aluminum.
Starting point is 00:19:12 You can't find a study on the safety of aluminum. Why? Because actually, ironically, it would be unethical to inject just aluminum into somebody and then have a group where you're injecting saline to see, does the aluminum have an effect? It's illegal to do that because they know aluminum has no. no beneficial effect. It's not a vitamin. You are not deficient in aluminum. So it's only going to cause harm, which is why it's illegal for them to ever have tested it, but no problem to make it a core ingredient he's saying in almost every vaccine so much so that it is, quote, if you take out aluminum, you'll destroy the whole vaccine program. That's a problem, Scott, since you've never
Starting point is 00:19:57 ever done a safety test on aluminum. So here we are, right? We're in this circle that kept coming during the hearings. You know, we did it. Do the trial and establish safety, can't do it now because it'd be unethical. Yes. And so let's talk about, so they're feeding us Tylenol. Let's talk about Tylenol. And so the Wall Street Journal puts out the headline that is just Tylenol, and that makes a certain group of people unhappy. This is just one example of a lot of the posts I saw after this headline came out. This was Dr. Nisha Patel. This was on X, a doctor. She says this, there is no proven link between Tylenol use and pregnancy and autism. Tylenol is one of the very few safe medications available for pain and discomfort during pregnancy and now it's being demonized without evidence.
Starting point is 00:20:40 This isn't public health. It's reckless fear-mongering. Okay, well, since we're talking about Tylenol, and since this is now the topic, let's talk about this evidence that she's talking about. Apparently, there's no evidence of harm. Well, this is Mount Sinai, a very respected institution. They have come out just last month with a meta-analysis looking at over 50 studies on a Cetaminopin says the evaluation of the evidence on acetaminopin use in the neurodevelopmental disorders. And it says this, their conclusion, our analysis using the navigation guide, thus support evidence consistent with an association between acetaminopin, exposure during pregnancy, and increased incidence of neurodevelopmental disorders. Appropriate and immediate steps
Starting point is 00:21:19 should be taken to advise pregnant women to limit acetaminin consumption to protect their offspring's neurodevelopment. That doesn't sound like safe and effective to me. That sounds like this is something we've been giving to mothers and children for a very long time that should have been looked at a very long time ago. But let's keep going. I just want to jump in just to interrupt. Let's take autism out of the equation. Her statement's moronic because Tylenol is known to be at least when I was running on the doctor's I did a show on this, the number one cause of liver failure in children in America's Tylenol.
Starting point is 00:21:50 The overprescription of Tylenol, people don't realize they gave them a Tylenol. I gave them some, you know, sleeping medication. Didn't know that had Tylenol too. and also that dose that they give you is like just under lethal. That maximum dose is more than maximum. It's dangerous. So I just want to put out there safe. No, everyone knows that has a brain.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Tylenol happens to be one of the most dangerous products for children causes more deaths than almost any other prescription drug. I think it does cause more death than any prescription drug that children take. So I don't know what she, what planet she lives on. But go ahead. These are the honest questions that we have as a discussion as the public when we are facing now this new Maha Commission. We're going to be looking at things and having uncomfortable conversations as a country. This is what it's going to look like. Let's go into the studies even
Starting point is 00:22:36 further. The role of oxidative stress inflammation and acetaminophen exposure from birth to early childhood in the induction of autism. And it says here, the wide range of factors associated with the induction of autism is invariably linked with either inflammation or oxidative stress or sometimes both. Thus, one explanation for the increased prevalence of autism is that increased exposure to a acetaminopin exacerbated by inflammation and oxidative stress is neurotoxic in babies and small children. Now we go into another. So we have this neurotoxicity, this inflammation for children, also for pregnant mothers. Not a good thing if we're revving up this inflammation. So Tylenol can do that, but what else can do that? We know what else can do that. We're going to go into these studies right now.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Here's evidence, another study, evidence that increased acetaminopin use in genetically vulnerable children. So now we have another aspect that enters the fray here appears to be a major cause of the autism epidemic. And it says this, the characteristic loss of Purgengi cells in the brains of people with autism is consistent with depletion of brain glutathione due to excessive acetaminophen usage, which leads to the premature brain Percinji cell death. Perkinji cells are critical for motor coordination, motor learning, cognition, emotion. And it goes on to say this. The toxicity of acetaminin may cause autism. by overloading the defective sulfation pathway catalyzed by phenosulfod transface,
Starting point is 00:24:00 which is deficient in autism leading to overproduction of toxic metabolite NAPQI. But it goes on to say increased levels of NAPQI, reduce the ability to detoxify a host of toxic chemicals in the environment, increasing this oxidative stress. So now you have the genetically vulnerable kids who can't detoxify and are getting fed this acetaminophen, whether it's through the pregnant mother or through themselves as a baby or an infant. They can't detoxify it. And it's really, it's causing this inflammation in their brain. But the maternal dose even has an issue too. We're talking about inflammation. It's not good. We talked about this in previous shows, but I want to bring this study in once again, maternal immune activation. We know this is not a good
Starting point is 00:24:40 thing. And they have normal brain development across central nervous system disorders. So in this study, they used a viral mimic. And it said it made it possible to demonstrate that the maternal immune reaction driven by the pleotrophic factor IL-6 and not the virus itself is responsible for observed changes in the offspring. That's the neurodevelopmental changes, the negative development, autism, these neurodevelopmental issues. And so what else does that? It's not just Tylenol. And this is why a lot of people are up in arms about this, because they know it's not just Tylenol. There's genetically vulnerable children and you give them a vaccine as well. where you give the mother a vaccine. Here's one study showing exactly that.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Inflammatory response to trivalent influenza virus vaccine among pregnant women. It says trivalent influenza virus vaccine elicits a measurable inflammatory response among pregnant women. It goes on to say there was considerable variability in the magnitude of the response. Coefficiency of variation for change at least at two days post-vaccination range from 122% to 728% with the greatest variability in IL-6 response at this time point. So we have So we don't even know what kind of immune response we're eliciting when the vaccine manufacturers say it's great. Lissiting immune response shows it's working. Okay, but how much of immune response?
Starting point is 00:25:57 Can you turn it off? What about the people that are vulnerable for this that are getting 728% immune response and they're carrying a child? This is obviously an issue. You're throwing acetaminophen in the mix. We're just getting to the start of this conversation, Dell, is my point. There's a lot of science. Tylenol is one factor. I know there's going to be other factors that we're going to have this national conversation on.
Starting point is 00:26:18 And I think it's time. I think you're right. And I'm glad we're digging into it. And look, we are simply bringing this out. This may not end up being in some future Maha report. I don't know what Robert Kennedy Jr. I don't know if he's focused on Tylenol. But since I got called, I said to you, I'm getting called by all these reporters that want to know what our perspective was on this potential Tylenol.
Starting point is 00:26:43 being targeted with autism. And I said, we've already done many shows on that. I've said this to a couple of reporters. You just showed some of the science. There's still new science. But at the very heart of it, my understanding, from all the interviews that I've done, from doing this show, all the people that I've worked
Starting point is 00:26:59 with around autism, autism does appear to be an issue of children that are having difficulty detoxifying. Maybe the pathways, the glutathione, all these issues, the things that a healthy child maybe is able to get these heavy metals, the aluminum they were just injected with in a vaccine out of their body. But in autistic children, there really is a question, maybe they just can't detoxify. So this toxic load, the 264 chemicals found in the umbilical cord of mothers now when they're studied, you know, all of that is just pushing the envelope. And then all it takes is that one more shot,
Starting point is 00:27:34 that thing that pushes them over the edge. And then, you know, I think the crime of all crimes, and I have seen this in anecdotal stories and interviews I've done, how many parents say their pediatricians said to them, if your baby gets fussy after vaccination, give them a little bit of Tylenol. Well, what we see here is that may have been the absolute death blow, especially if your child that's already having difficulty detoxifying. Now you give them a drug that wipes out their glutathione,
Starting point is 00:28:04 all those other big words that essentially are saying, you now disrupt the ability for that baby to get that aluminum, all the toxins in that vaccine out, to overcome this inflammatory event. That's what Tylenol appears to be doing, which could be catastrophic at the wrong time. These numbers are scary coming from pregnant women that were taking Tylenol, but I would assume those pregnant women if they're taking Tylenol also gave Tylenol their babies. There's a huge investigation here needed, but I would just caution anyway. I doubt Robert Kennedy June is going to come out and say,
Starting point is 00:28:35 I found the only culprit is Tylenol. But Tylenol also leads us one step closer to a path to vaccinations because those things are happening, you know, sort of coterminously. They're being prescribed by the same doctors. Give the vaccine, tell them to take Tylenol. I think it's going to make us look at what would you have to be detoxifying? Probably that load of vaccines you got. So I just, I think we all should keep a cool head.
Starting point is 00:29:01 There's science behind this discovery, this issue. We've been talking about it. And I'm glad it's now really getting attention. And I do hope Robert Kennedy Jr. does put some focus on Tylenol, because I think it could make a difference. It's not the, I don't believe it's going to be, you know, the smoking gun, but it's one of them. Absolutely.

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