The Highwire with Del Bigtree - MEET THE DOCTORS CURING THE INCURABLE

Episode Date: July 26, 2023

Emergency & Integrative Medicine (Immunity Dysfunction Expert) Dr James Neuenschwander, has been treating children with auto-immune conditions, chronic health conditions, autism spectrum disorders, and conditions brought on by vaccine injury and other causes, for decades. Now he seeks to bring together the best Doctors and Practitioners through his work as President at MedMaps.org, to educate the next generation of professionals to make the greatest impact possible on this medically complex pediatric population. If you are a medical professional looking to help a growing population in need, visit www.medmaps.org. #MAPS #Dr.NeuBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

My next guest has spent literally his life, his career, healing and attempting to figure out what's going on with vaccine injury. And I think that he may actually be the most dangerous doctor with a microphone that ever lived. This is him at the ASIP meetings at the CDC, a couple of them all pushed together. Next speaker is Mr. James New and Schwander, please. Once again, it's Dr. James New and Schwander. I'm a physician duly board certified in emergency and integrated medicine with over 30 years of experience caring for chronically ill children and adults. I have personally witnessed vaccine injuries in my career as an emergency room physician, and I can tell you it is not rare and certainly more than one in a million. The parents of those children, will, to their dying breath, say that it was a vaccine to cause their child to descend into autism.

It was a vaccine that caused their child's neurologic disorder. It was a vaccine that caused their child's asthma, their child's eczema, their child's food allergy. And I'm here today to tell you you're losing the confidence of those people and the health care practitioners that care for them when it comes to vaccine safety. I used to naively think that ASEP based all their recommendations on rigorous study of multiple trials that determine the safety and efficacy of each one of your recommendations. I've since learned that ASEP was simply participating in an industry-wide phenomenon. I'm going to call junk science. There's certainly a need for far greater vaccine safety research. Without that science, we can't have good communication.

We can't repurpose the same old science because it's going to make things look better. We need more investment in vaccine safety science. Those are not my words. Those are the words of Heidi Larson, who is the director of the World Health Organization's Vaccine Confidence Project. But I'm not here today to debate the safety and efficacy of vaccines.

I will, however, challenge each and every one of you in this room to that debate. I will challenge the CDC, the NIH, any university out there to that debate in the public forum, but I know it will never happen. The science isn't there. I'm all about the science. The biggest cause of vaccine hesitancy in this country is the lack of true vaccine science. I saw this committee in the last meeting look at the new McCockle vaccine and say it doesn't work, and yet leave it on the schedule and leave it up to us to determine.

whether or not we give it to a patient. I'm sorry, but that's your job. In 2013, the Institute of Medicine was tasked with the job of determining the safety of the entire vaccine schedule. What they found was there wasn't any evidence. There was no study comparing the health outcomes of a vaccinated population to a completely unvaccinated population. In response, the CDC created a committee of experts to determine how could you ethically do this

study. The result was a 2015 white paper in which, they outlined the 20 most concerning health conditions along with details on how to do each of these studies. They even gave a specific example of how to use the VSD to study how the schedule affected a child's risk of asthma. That was five years ago. Nothing has happened. We're all still waiting. If you want the statement, vaccines are safe and effective to be anything more than an advertising campaign, you need this kind of science. And if you're unwilling or unable to do this, Please step aside and give people like me access to the VSD.

We'll make sure those studies are done. The vaccine hesitant are winning people to their side at a much greater rate than the vaccine confident. They're five times more likely to go to the other side. You're losing that battle. We stand on a threshold of a public health crisis, and vaccines are part of that. But you guys can make a difference. If we don't change the course of where we're at right now, we will have nothing but chronically ill children and adults.

We'll have epidemics of autoimmunity, of autism, of infertility, of asthma, food allergies, of cancer. But you can change that. Please, the community counts on you. Do your job. I have talked a lot about the fact that we have a group of international scientists and doctors that work with us in our investigations. One of them is Dr. James Nguyen-Sondra. He is also one of our board of directors for the informed consent action network that makes all this happen. It's my honor and pleasure to be joined right now.

Thank you so much for having me, Del. Really appreciate being here. And I promise, I hope, I won't cry. Okay, that sounds good. When I watched that, I mean, you've been spectacular on that microphone. You know, we've talked about it a lot, talking to the CDC. Had they ever listened to you or I or those of us that spoke on those microphones, we wouldn't be sitting having gone through this interview that I just did with Jessica.

Yes. Absolutely. these are older videos. You know, they have not had live meetings since COVID, so these are at least three years old. And, you know, they know what the problems are. I think when you and Bobby Kennedy sat down with Fauci and Redfield and those folks about vaccines when you said we couldn't find any placebo-controlled trials

with any of these vaccines, I honestly believe those three thought those studies had been done. Right. And it was only when they looked and they were, oh, my God, we haven't done those. And that's what we're trying, you know, this was the whole idea of what was happening there. And the problem is they've taken that information, this charge from that Institute of Medicine. They took that charge. You need to do these studies, these vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies. Do vaccines cause asthma?

Do vaccines cause mental health problems? Do vaccines cause things like autism? Yeah. Right. And so now they're doing these studies, but they still won't include an unvaccinated group. They just presented a paper at ASAP, this is the advisory community and immunization practices. The very last meeting, they presented a paper where they were looking at different doses of aluminum in the vaccine schedule and whether that correlated with asthma. Now, the paper

itself said one thing. The data that you went to that wasn't in the paper, it was a fourfold increase in the raw data. Now, they manipulated that into a twofold increase. Right. But when they presented the data, they said it was 26% increase per milligram of aluminum. Now, everybody, committee's going to 26%. That's very reassuring until you realize kids get four milligrams. Four times 26. Right. Come on.

You know, that's double the risk when you manipulated all that data. And this is the kind of stuff that's been driving us nuts forever, right? Yeah. I mean, you know, I listened to the interview you just did, right? So you look at somebody walks into your office and they have burning pain and they have shakes and they have ticks and they have, you know, brain fog and they feel like they're out of their body. Yeah. You know, and you think, oh my God, this is a crazy woman, unless you can recognize that maybe this is an injury from a vaccine. Because the one thing that will explain all the symptoms she had is immune activation, autoimmunity, neuropathy.

These are all part of the same process. And if you do not teach that to doctors, we're not going to recognize it. Yeah. And this is the whole problem with the entire vaccine schedule that, you know, we're not taught this stuff in medical school. We're not taught this stuff in residency like we do with everything else. Yeah. I know the side effects of a statin drug. I know the benefits of a statin drug.

I was taught that. Yeah. I was taught the benefits of a vaccine. I was never taught the negatives. Right. And it's just crazy. I was, we were just at Freedom Fest, and a moment that's really stuck with me, a very famous scientist and is fairly outspoken, that really understood the problem with the COVID vaccine, you know, fairly early on, but locked up with me a little bit out there a couple of years ago when I said, this isn't just the COVID vaccine, it's the whole childhood schedule. And they pushed back on that. I tried to lay out all of my thoughts, and they came up to me.

at Freedom Fest and said, well, I suppose you knew this was coming, but you were right. You were right about everything. And they're just, they're shocked. It's like the world has come crashing in and said, you know, I knew there was problems. I knew there was problems with the vaccine program. I mean, it's a medical product. I knew we were overstating it. When I went and looked for the science and I really got into it, I was shocked there is nothing there.

That was the statement. There's nothing there, and it really is the truth. We're watching all sorts of people being attacked that would dare to say that vaccines haven't been proper safety studies. And we hear this mantra, oh, it's robust science. And this is what was being, you know, argue with me two years ago when this individual came up that knows fully well how to do the research, did all the research, and they come back and say, my God, they haven't done anything. There's no science. It's really, really shocking. It's not even that there's no science. I mean, I mean, I could almost forgive them if they never did the study, right? We're going to test this vaccine, but we think vaccines are so great. We're not even going to have a control group. We're just going to test the vaccine. Okay, fine. You know, that goes right along with that. Vaccines are safe and effective.

This is a vaccine. Why should we worry about safety? It's going to be effective because it's a vaccine. Right. What I have problems with is when you go into these studies, and the classic example here is the original Prevnar 7 vaccine. This is the pneumonia vaccine, right? So they have a group of people that get the Prevnar 7 vaccine, and they have a control group.

What did they give the control group? Did they give them an inert placebo? Well, you know they didn't do that, right? Did they give him a different vaccine, like the flu vaccine? They didn't even do that. What they gave him was an experimental meningitis vaccine that has never been approved even since then. It's like that's not just bad science. That's like unethical. How can you do that? They literally test an experimental product against a totally different experimental product.

This one never made the market. But look, we did better than that experimental product. And, Belle, these are not. You can't make you some. These are not stupid people. I mean, they have to sit there and figure this stuff out. But there's a very small group of people that actually know that that's how that study was done. I understand. Like the other doctors just go, no, clearly there was placebo group. That's insane. you're saying. This is madness and they think they're right. And this is the thing about the doctors in the COVID vaccine injury movement is, you know, we call them newbies. It's like welcome to the game. We've been doing this for 20 years. But, you know, when you have these doctors and they get

up on stage and they say, I'm not anti-vax, I get my flu vaccine every year. And you sort of say in the aisles later, hey, have you looked at the flu vaccine? And they do their due diligence because because they're good doctors. You know, we don't know everything. Somebody comes in and challenges us. Then my job is to go hit the books, do the research, find out what's going on, and say, oh, okay, well, maybe I was mistaken.

Maybe I was misled. Maybe I came up with a false conclusion based on the evidence I had, but this new evidence is suggesting something else. That's a good doctor. None of those people are out there saying I get my flu vaccine anymore. Right.

Right. And so they did the research. They found these studies, and it's mind-blowing. I mean, some of these things are so mind-blowing, you cannot believe that a government-funded, intelligent, experienced scientist can do this kind of study. And then all these other people just smile and nod at the FDA advisory committee and at the CDC advisory committee and just rubber-stamp everything that comes in front of them. One of the things that blew my mind, I remember, and I was actually just revisiting when Robert Kennedy's,

Jr. and I went to the NIH set up by Donald Trump, and we brought up the placebo-based study. We can't find any. And they ended up having this conversation, well, we do something better. We do, I forget what they call exactly like an adjuvant study, where they literally took all the toxins, the adjuvants and all the mess that's in the vaccine. They give that to the control group. And then the other group gets the full vaccine. So the only difference is the antigen, right? And they say, this is the greatest study there is. I was like, not if our issue is with all of the toxic chemicals that are in it because they both got toxic chemicals. What you're trying to see is did the one that only got toxic chemicals do any better than the one

that got toxic chemicals in a little bit of virus or bacteria? Well, it's about the same. They're all sick. So, you know, we did pretty good. And this was the thing about that aluminum study I was talking about. Yeah. Because if you go into the raw data, meaning the data they didn't manipulate and, you know, they had all the, you know, if you read these articles, you recognize all the names on there, you know, like Stephano.

Yeah, yeah. Frank is the fixer to Stephano, right? So anytime you bring in Frank to Stephano, Colleen Boyles in there a lot, right. It's because you don't like your data. It's like, Frank, how can we fix this? Right. You know, and so, but even he couldn't do it.

But if you look at the raw data, you know, you look at each milligram of aluminum that the kid is exposed to, you have almost a linear relationship with the degree of asthma, right? So we're talking asthma. We're not talking any other condition. We're not talking autoimmunity or any of these other things. But you can show that linear relationship in asthma. and yet they say it's no problem.

And you have to remember, I mean, we are, you know, we spend more money than anybody else in the world on healthcare, right? It's double our nearest competitor. More money than anybody else. When you look at pediatric health, particularly neonatal and infant health, like under a year old, I think we're number 48, 49

on the world list. We have more babies die on the first day of life than every other industrialized nation combined. We have horrific numbers. And it's horrible. I mean, we are worse than all of Europe. We're worse than most of the Middle East. We're worse than South Korea or Japan.

You know, it's just terrible. It's an embarrassment for how bad we are because in the 50s we weren't there. I mean, in the 50s, we really did lead the world in health care and innovation and that sort of thing. And we've fallen behind. Why? You know, because if you look at where the numbers are now, you can say, oh, all these kids are sick and, you know, we see all this obesity and asthma and autoimmune disorders, it's not even so much how much we have now because people think, oh, well, hasn't it always been that way?

But when you go back to when I went to medical school, which is 1981, and you compare to where it's been in the last 10 years, you know, we have triple the rate of asthma, triple the rate of autoimmunity, triple the rate of type 1 diabetes, 10 times the rate of food allergies. And I don't even know what the number is with autism anymore. It was about 1 in 5,000, 1 in 10,000 when I went to medical school. We don't know for sure. You know, the last numbers were 1 in 36, 39. And if it's boys, could be 180, 1 in 20. And African-American boys, one in 12. And these are numbers from 2012. We have no idea what the number is right now. Because they refuse to look at it. So tell me what is a MAPS doctor. This is a term that I heard when I first started traveling, when I met you with Vaxed, which sort of threw me in the middle of all this.

But this is something you've been at some time. So what does that mean? Maps. Well, so MAPS stands for Medical Academy of Pediatric Special Needs. And we started, there originally was an organization called Dan, defeat Autism, now was purely dedicated for finding solutions to autism because nobody knew what was going on. Right. The idea was they were going to bring together parents, scientists, and doctors, put them all in the

same room and see what kind of solutions they could come up with. Well, you know, Dan was great for a while, and then a lot of these organizations fall apart. There's infighting and all that. So Dan kind of disappeared, and MAPS was born from the ashes of Dan. And the idea behind MAPS was to take practitioners, you know, originally it was. anybody that could write a prescription. Now it's pretty much anybody who's a health care practitioner and takes care of kids and teach them some of the principles. So when you look at autism, regardless of what the CDC says, and even some of our members don't believe this,

but if you listen to parents, which, you know, I was always taught as a former ER doctor, ignore mom or dad at your own peril, right? But when you listen to parents, it's 70 to 80% and a parent said a vaccine had something to do with their kid's autism. Right. So whether they're all delusional or not, we should be investigating that. Indeed. We're really not. Yeah.

So the idea here was, all right, you've got this kid in front of you. They have autism. A, what the heck is autism? B, what do you as a practitioner do for that kid? And that's where I learned more biochemistry in a couple of years in Dan than I had learned in my entire life in medical school and undergraduate. it and that's really what we teach now. We teach the fundamental principles of, you know, integrated medicine, functional medicine, whatever you want to talk about it. We're looking at trying to train practitioners to be a solution to the problems that we're having. And so

MAPS for a while with strictly neurodevelopmental delays, kids with seizures, kids with autism, ADD, that sort of thing. And a few years ago, it was like, whoa, we got a huge problem here. You know, I started working with the executive committee, now I'm the president of MAPS, but it was like, we need to move this more into this realm of general pediatrics, because we're ignoring this whole group of kids over here that have all these disorders. Because if you mess up the immune system, if you overact the immune system, you're going to have asthma and food allergies and eczema and environmental allergies. You know, you're going to see that.

But if it gets worse than that, you're going to see seizures from brain inflammation. you're going to see autism and ADD and people don't understand a lot of these psychiatric, you know, I'm going to put that in quotes, psychiatric disorders are actually inflammation of the brain. You know, and if you can address that, then we can do something about it. We look at kids on the spectrum, 80% of them have gut problems. Right. 70% of them have neuroinflammation. They have inflammation of their brain, encephalitis.

Yeah. Maybe those two things are connected with each other, right? So we teach all this stuff in maps. We teach practitioners. How do you look at the gut? How do you address a patient like we just saw here? You know, how many times did she've been to the hospital? All your tests are normal.

They must all be in your head. Why don't you do a cytokine panel? Right. I'm sure they didn't do because that would be very abnormal in a person like that. I mean, autoimmune antibodies against a brain. I don't even order them anymore in my COVID vaccine injury patients because they're always positive. Yes, no.

It's like, why waste the $500? Right. I know it's positive, you know, because that's what. what these vaccines do. And part of it is what they're designed to do. The other part is, oops, we meant it to do this, but it's going that. What blows my mind is it's designed to create inflammation, right? It's designed to set your body into a bit of a shock. Right. So it starts creating, you know, antibodies. Why is it so unbelievable to people that for some people it went too far? The inflammation went to the brain or what weren't able to stop the inflammation.

The cytokines, you know, took over or, you know, the energy of the cells, you know, the mitochondria is. We've had scientists literally that were against us turn and say, oh my God, I finally realized what it is, you know, the mitochondria aren't doing their job. This is autism. You know, 20 to 30 percent of kids on the spectrum have mitochondrial disorders. They don't have genetic mitochondrial disorders. They're toxic. And I want everybody to understand. It's not just vaccines.

It's not just vaccines. It's everything in the environment that intoxicates us, and particularly our kids. They're not small adults. They are much more susceptible to environmental toxins. They have a larger surface area. They're closer to the ground. They're putting things in their mouth. They shouldn't.

All that stuff. So they're going to be more susceptible to environmental toxins. But, you know, the thing about vaccines, it's the one toxin we injected to kids. All this other stuff. You know, you have your entire gastrointestinal tract or your lungs that can protect you against what you're taking in. But the bottom line is all these things are toxins and then how well do these kids detox? You know, because again, one of the things we teach in maps is, you know, how do you evaluate the ability of your patient to detoxify? Because you can measure things like glutathione.

Most doctors don't even know what glutathione is, but it's one of the really critical compounds that help us detox oxygen and deal with oxidative stress. But it helps with heavy metals, helps things like aluminum and mercury and lead and those kinds of things, but also helps us detox other environmental toxins you're going to get from food, water, air, whatever. And if you don't have enough of that, you're the canary in the coal mine. What's amazing too, just as I think about that, because, you know, Tylenol, if you take Tylenol, it reduces your glutathione. I mean, this is the part of your vaccine's

toxic, which it is designed to be toxic, send your body inflammation, then you tell parents go home, give your kid a Tylenol if they're fussy, and then you wipe out, literally the defense system it has to try and clear those toxic. out of the body, and now Tylenol is being sued for causing autism, which I guess in some ways, you know, you could see a connection. Yeah, you hear, I mean, again, I hear stories. These are all anecdotal. You know, I don't have placebo-controlled double-lined studies because they don't exist, but,

you know, you hear these stories over and over again that, you know, my child, son or daughter, you know, went and had their two-month vaccines and, you know, they ran a fever, and, you know, the doctor told me he had used Tylenol, and it took. a few days to get better. And so for the four-month vaccines, they told me, give them Tylenol before they're even vaccinated. So they go into the vaccine depleted and gluteinol, and then, you know, and remember these, you know, I don't, the number of vaccines you get at once is just crazy. This is what's so frustrating that, you know, doctors, these pediatricians, they actually, I think they think they're doing what's right for kids, and they're so stupid. It is

so stupid what they're doing. Sorry. Not stupid now. I'm sorry. You're giving them an out. They're not stupid. I think they all. Brainwashed. Well, whatever. I mean, you know. Listen, there's a difference. If you go to medical school, and I want you to put yourself in the mind of somebody who's trained. Okay.

You know, you go to medical school. All right. You go into residency, and particularly residency. Now, I did a part of a surgical residency, but let's do a pediatric residency. You are working 14, 16 hours a day, seven days a week. Everybody around you is saying the same thing. Everybody is teaching you the same thing. you're sleep deprived, you're eating crap, and you're totally stressed out.

You are the perfect candidate to be brainwashed. And there's no way you can't be brainwashed because everybody around you says the same thing. And you don't get through the system if you don't repeat the brainwashed philosophy, right? Even if you understand it's brainwashing, it's hard to fight. Right. It's really hard to fight because this is a very big boys club. You want to be a member of it and you are. You got the magic pass.

You got the golden ticket into that membership. to be part of that membership, you have to go through the hazing, the initiation, and that's your residency. And you walk out of residency, and this is the people that I'm looking at in terms of maps. You walk out of your residency, that's probably not the person we're going to see at a Maps conference. But who we will see is the person that's been in practice five or ten years. Because at that point, they know when that patient, they walk in the room with that patient sitting there, they can tell in about two minutes, can I really help this person or not? Am I going to be able to actually resolve their issue, or are they just going to be coming back with the same problem over and over again?

And I can't imagine how frustrating that is, right? To know ahead of time, I can't help this person. We will give these people the tools to help them help their patients. Well, that's my question. MAPs, doctors, is there hope? I mean, a lot of people say is there hope for, do you have any success with autism? Do you have success with neurological disorders and autoimmune disease? Yeah.

You know, things have gotten harder as we've moved along because, you know, I think when I first started treating kids on the spectrum, this was in the mid-2000s, you know, a lot of it was environmental, just pure environmental toxicity, you know, lead, mercury, those kinds of things. So, you know, if you put them on a gluten-case-free diet, you chelated them to get rid of their mentals, you detox their gut a little bit, most of them got better. You know, I'd say 25, 30% of them lost their diagnosis. Another 50 you got significantly better. You could still tell there was something, you know, a little bit odd about them. And the other 20% or 25% that you didn't get off the spectrum or improved, they at least had a much better quality of life because they didn't have the belly pain and all that sort of stuff. You know, what we're looking at now is you have just about all these kids have encephalitis.

They have inflammation of their brain. and it's being driven by the environmental toxicity. And I don't know if it's because it's generational. You know, toxicity isn't necessarily genetic, but it's epigenetic. So if mom has a toxic environment, the child is going to have even more problems, right? And so, you know, the sins of the seven generations, right? The sins of the father bestowed upon the seven generations, that's what happens with toxicity. That if the baby is born to a mother that's toxic, that baby's going to have mom's toxic.

plus all the toxins that that baby developed in a lifetime. And if it's female, then when she grows up and has her own babies, now it's mom's toxicity, her toxicity, plus whatever she has during pregnancy that she's going to deliver to the next generation. It just amps up, and it's just becoming harder and harder. You know, my dream, because I look at, you know, maybe I have 10,000 patients in my practice, probably 20% kids. All right.

So I've got 10,000, I got 2,000, 3,000 kids in my practice. There's 87 million kids in this country, right? So one doctor, 2,000 kids, you know, you do the math. We need a lot of maps doctors, right? Because, you know, if the function of the American Academy of Pediatrics is to improve the state of pediatric health, I'm sorry, but they have failed. They have failed miserably because you're never going to find health at the bottom of a pill bottle or the end of a needle.

Right. And you know that. That's not the way you have health. And this idea that we have to stop every child from having any symptom ever, I mean, it's ludicrous. These kids need to have, you know, they need to go through these illnesses. They need to strengthen their immune system. They need to eat dirt, right? They need to have that exposure because that's what strengthens your immune system. I want to thank you. You just got me a headline in New York Times. You know, Del Baitreel brings on the doctor's

says go out and eat dirt. You just go out and done it. You've got out of that doctor goes on laundry. Let me correct. Let me correct. Let me correct. Okay. Let me correct myself. Don't lead your kids eat dirt because that dirt's toxic. If you can find clean dirt, it's full of good nutrients, microbes. It'll actually help the same dirt on your lawn, good pesticides. Probably not a good idea. Yeah. So, yeah, definitely not.

I don't even know where to go anymore to eat dirt, but we'll retract that one. We need dirt bars. Dirt bars. There you go. There you go. Great idea. Dirt bars. Organic dirt bars.

We'll be right next to the oxygen and the clean water. All right. You have a conference coming up for doctors, and it is so important for people like Jessica. And this is the problem, right? They go out, they injure, they know it's happening. And then there's literally no understanding of what we do in this situation, except for guys like you and women like you with MAPS doctors. Tell me about this event coming.

So we have a conference twice a year. So the next one is going to be in Scottsdale. It's September 6th to the 8th. Now, again, these are for practitioners. We got it right here, if you're a practitioner, no one out there. This is so important, right there. And by the way, plenty of work to be had here. If you can understand this, there's going to be lines out your door.

You can have 10,000 people in your practice like Dr. Newin-Swander. You have to know this information. So if you know anyone who's a doctor, let's make sure we get them all here because this is the future of medicine, unfortunately, because of all the damage that's being done. Absolutely. You know, we, you know, if you're not a practitioner, talk to your practitioners, you know, tell them about maps. Tell them what we're doing. And anybody that, you know, you see a practitioner that's frustrated in their practice or hear somebody talk about, you know, you know, oh, geez, I have to do this for the insurance company or that, for the hospital or whatever.

You know, those are the people we're looking for. We don't go into medicine, usually. We don't go into medicine because we're looking for a paycheck. I mean, really, it's a guaranteed income, but you could do a lot better than medicine. We go into medicine because we give a damn. We go to medicine because we care about people. We go into medicine like I did because I thought they'd teach me how to cure disease. That was a joke, right?

But that's what we teach in Maps. will teach you how to help your patients cure themselves, because I don't think we cure anybody, your body's going to cure you, I can just try and help you do that, right? And that's what we're doing in Maps. We're trying to give practitioners the tools to give to their patients so that they can regain their health. That's what we're supposed to be. We're supposed to be healthy. When we're sick, it's not because we need to push ourselves back into a state of health. You know, what we need to do as a practitioner is find out what is the barrier that's stopping the person from becoming healthy. Illness is like a rubber band on stretch. It's not its natural state. Remove the thing that's

keeping that on stretch and it will go back into its normal state. And that state is health. And that's really what maps is about teaching people the importance of nutrition, how to take care of your body, what to do to have a good gut ecosystem, you know, how to manage what you just saw on stage there, how to manage brain inflammation, how to manage neuropathy, how to manage inflammation. Because unfortunately, that's the future. Without organizations like MAPS, if we're gonna trust these guys at the CDC

and at the FDA, I'm sorry, we're all gonna be sick. We're all gonna be on four or five drugs. You know, not just our kids, and it's scary. It's scary how many kids are on medications. Yeah. So, and this is really where, you know, my heart is really in getting the message out there, training practitioners to do what we do.

And then, you know, the lovely thing is these people come back and train us, right? Because they're gonna go out and find something that works that, hey, you're not talking about this at NAPS. Bring it on home, let's teach us, right? Because that's a big part of it as well. This is always changing, but we need to have that set of practitioners that isn't gonna look at you when you're in crisis

and say, we can't find anything wrong with you. Well, yeah, Dufus, that's because you didn't order the right test. Right. You're not going to find brain inflammation or neuropathy on a CAT scan and a blood count. I'm sorry, that's not going to happen. You need to learn how do I evaluate that? How do I dive deep down into it?

And how do I treat it without using a product from Pfizer, Merck, Zanofia, whoever? Dr. James New and just want to thank you for all the work you do for us here at ICan and the high wire. Thank you for the work you've done in the world and for medicine. You know, on our board, you're also president of MAPS making that happen, and we're going to drive every doctor we know in there so we can start sort of building this army of good doctors that are still asking questions and trying to help people.

Awesome. Appreciate it, definitely. All right, awesome. So look, I mean, look at this show today. We, you know, present you with a problem. Jessica Sutter, thank God for her courage a step forward. I want you, if you're anywhere in the Texas area, to join us in Houston at Montgomery County Fairgrounds on Saturday.

We're going to be, you know, working to restore hope with React 19, a powerful group of people. So important, Mickey Willis. Dr. Peter McCullough, a whole slew of brilliant doctors and scientists can be talking. There's also great music, rock and roll. We're going to be jamming out, and you can meet all of us there. So please come and attend that. And, you know, there it is. That's a problem.

We're going to try and make sure there's funding. Well, where's that funding go? It's got to go to doctors and know what they're doing. It's why MAPS is so important if you're a doctor out there once again. And remember, all of this will be available. if you're on a newsletter, you'll have the links and will be in the comments here. But get to the Maps conference there. September 6 through the 8th. There it is in Double Tree in Scottsdale. Beautiful place. Oh, sorry, 7 through the 9th.

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