The Highwire with Del Bigtree - MIKKI WILLIS EXPOSES MEDIA MADNESS

Episode Date: January 2, 2022

Del sits down with visionary filmmaker Mikki Willis to discuss his new projects after The Plandemic’s viral juggernaut and their shared fight to spread truth in these unprecedented times.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

I thought it would be really great to sort of end out this year with another one of my true hero friends, Mickey Willis, who is much like me. He's a filmmaker. He's out there trying to spread the truth. You've seen his pandemic movies, which are just, like, have gotten such astronomical success. But the truth and the way that he delivers it is like no one else. But, you know, I just got a video from him the other day that I just found awesome. Because one of the advantages of Mickey Willis and myself is that because we're filmmakers, because we're always videotaping everything we do, we've got this archive or this time capsule

that we can actually point back to and say, look, this is what I said a year ago. I'm not armchair recording backing this. I'm not here as a fair weather friend because I now am like with everybody else who's getting it. We get to prove what we said before. Mickey sent me this video and the statement he made to his followers just three days after the pandemic began. or the planemic, which is actually more appropriately to be discussed, we talk about Mickey Willis, three days after they announced the pandemic to the United States of America. This is what Mickey said to those who were following him.

I've received several messages over the last couple of days, people wanting to get my take on the coronavirus and everything that's happening right now. And so I want to take this moment to share my insights as much as I can say as much as I can. There are a lot of things that I can't say, but I'll do my best to share what's relevant and necessary in this moment. I have no doubt at this point that the virus was intentionally released at this moment. And now there would be a lot of people that will deny that and call that a conspiracy theory. But again, before you jump to that conclusion, stop for a moment and consider all of the other conspiracy theories that we have laughed away in the past that turned out to be true.

We can go back as far as some of you are old enough to remember the 50s, right? When we were all told, I wasn't born then, but I know what happened. Everyone was told that cigarette smoking was healthy, was good for you. Even doctors repeated that false narrative. And we later learned that that was a big lie. How many other conspiracy theories like that? I remember within my lifetime, I remember when the truth started to emerge about Catholic priests abusing children. That was something that no one wanted to believe, except for, of course, the people who were directly affected by it. But everyone else just thought that was just, that was craziness. A priest of all people, somebody who preaches the word of God and is so dedicated to their communities and to their church, to their

cause would actually do something as harmful and destructive as harming our children sexually, that turned out to be true. I can go down a long, long list, but I'll save it. And I just ask you to remember that sometimes the craziest things turn out to be the most sane realities. And that's the time that we're living in right now. He's a visionary filmmaker. He is a prophetic speaker. And I am honored to be able to call him my friend and he joins me now, Mickey Willis. Thank you, brother. It's really a pleasure to have you here on the Highwire. Good to be back.

Well, let's just start right there. I mean, there's so much I want to talk to you about. And there's so much that you've done over this last year, which is sort of why I reached out to you to sort of talk about where we've been, where we're going. But right there, we're talking that, we're looking at that video. You sent it over. You said you just found it, right? What happened? It just popped up on my feed, my YouTube feed.

I looked at it and I thought, but I don't remember making this video. And so I watched it and realized that this was three days after the pandemic was announced that I made this public statement. And I'd forgotten that I said that. I thought Judy announced that to me. Right. Judy Mikovits. So I thought, you know, that it was interesting.

And what led me up to that knowing was that I was in the process of directing a documentary called The Narrative, which was to expose U.S. media and the corruption that has overcome it and is now dividing us as people and and so we're I was in the process of making that movie and working with a lot of whistleblowers that were saying to me that that a false flag a major false flag of some epic proportion 9-11 proportion one of them said expect that soon because of everything that was going on in the world of politics and the trafficking rings as sex trafficking rings and everything that that were being exposed and the untouchable

kingpins like Jeffrey Epstein and others that were suddenly being touched. Yeah. They said expect something very soon to come to divert everyone's attention from all of these revelations. And so that was what led me to feel comfortable enough to know that this pandemic was something else. Well, it's aging pretty well. You know, it's one of the things I was saying. I mean, obviously you and I, we met briefly here and there before while I was working on Bax. I remember every once in while you would come up and say, look, if you need any help, I've got elevate films.

I remember thinking myself, I don't know how anyone can help me. This documentary is not like any animal I've ever worked with before. It's going to just blow everything up. In fact, I was afraid to bring in anyone because I was like, I don't know if you want to be a part of what I think this is about to do, which, you know, ended up being the avalanche of insult and attack that I had sort of expected. But then you, you know, shortly after really sort of made pandemic and had a similar experience with that

where it absolutely blew up. In fact, we found this graphic. I thought was hysterical. This is New York Times. Take a look at this. This is the New York Times talking about Plandemic. How the Plandemic movie and its falsehoods spread widely online. Look at where you're at.

Like, you're up in like the millions, right? But they're comparing you to the aerial photography that was led out by the Pentagon. I guess that's the UFO sightings. Like, it did better than the U.S. Oversides, but then they added the office. reunion. You did better than that. Apparently Taylor Swift's city club, frankly, I think Taylor Swift should be honored to even be on the same chart with a pandemic, but it was absolutely meteoric what took place there. And we've talked about that before. But I want to talk about what it's like, you know, as a filmmaker on this journey. You know, you and I, I think I used to call myself a progressive liberal. We were both in Los Angeles making films. I was making television. You had an incredible. incredible, you know, film career and music video career. What led you into these topics, right?

This domain. What sort of, were you just a born skeptic? No, not whatsoever. What really opened my eyes to the problems within Western medicine was that in my early 20s, my brother died of AZT, which was the medication that Anthony Fauci was touting as the miracle care. Right. And as soon as he began taking that protocol, his health declined rapidly. And it was horrible to watch him with her from a six foot two, very handsome, healthy man to a skeleton. And so it was very alarming to, we were raised by a single mother. And so my mom was doing her best to save her son. And we would have people from the gay community tell us, don't take that medicine. and it's going to kill him.

But then every time my mom and my brother turned on the television, there was Anthony Fauci surrounded by the world's most beloved celebrities saying, and everyone declaring to know that this is, yes, there might be a period where it looks bad, but that's just the body acclimating to this new medicine and eventually it will save their lives. And it didn't. He died because of the medication.

And 34 days later, my mom died of bad cancer treatments. And so that was a real wake-up for me. But at that time, 30 years ago, we didn't have the internet like we do now, no way to research it. And really, I just wanted to escape it. And so that's what drove me to leave my nest of Northern California and move to L.A. and just start a whole new career, which is what has led me to sit in this chair right now. Yeah. So, you know, coming from, you know, when I was making VACs, remember thinking to myself, people would say, like, who's the audience?

And I'd say, well, frankly, I think the audience for me is, you know, I made Vax, and of course working with Andy Wayfield, who is the director, but as I framed it, I kept imagining all my friends that were progressive liberals. I thought of them as people like, these are, this is a group of people that tend to watch documentaries more than most. I mean, that might have shifted, I think, over the last couple of years, but originally it was sort of those environmentalists that I grew up with, which would watch one documentary after another about, you know, oil in the Gulf or, you know, whatever it was.

And so I thought if I can get to that community, it would be great. And they also tended, I thought, to be, you know, very science-minded, right? It's not, you know, growing up as a progressive liberal. And these are all judgments I had, right? Like, this is where I was coming from, that, you know, conservatives tended to believe in freedom and liberty. And I got all that. But when it came down, like, the nuts and bolts of, like, contaminating water, contaminating the air, like, you know, we grew up, like, reading the science. What was in these things?

What was in our food? What was in this pan? What is this thing made out of? And so I thought, certainly I can appeal those people. Now, I was well aware that this push in California with SB 277 did seem to be sort of a liberal progressive push to force vaccinate. And, you know, I recognized Bobby Kennedy was having issues who used to be a hero in our household. But I thought I could shift that, you know, if I made a documentary. And frankly, I was shocked that, you know, all I did was get attacked by those, I mean, friends of mine from classmates.

And it really, when, you know, right before Vaxed, I had a libertarian friend that had said to me, you know, Adele, someday they're going to step on a right that you care about, and then you'll understand, you know, why I believe what I believe. And I remember thinking that over and over again as this attack was coming out and coming down on me from friends. Yeah. What was your experience, you know, sort of, and not that I want to wax politically, because I consider myself politically marooned but I know we sort of come from that similar Hollywood space that we're all looking at right now very liberal some might even argue socialist or potentially uh communist in thinking

but at the time I just thought we were good people and we understood science well being born and raised in California I feel like I really didn't have a political choice you just you're born into the mindset and and there's there's no option to look beyond that because The narrative is just the other side is racist, bigots, who don't care about the environment, and they're just the greedy ones. Religious fanatics, and they are the problem. And so we are here to save humanity.

And I believe that for all of my life. But yet I avoided politics. First time I voted was for Obama and cried when he was inaugurated. Because I just thought this is the most, you know, the best move we could possibly make. What a charismatic family man. this is going to change America and I care about my country. By the second term I was I was confused with all the new wars and all of that and I thought I detached once again from politics

and then this Bernie Sanders character comes around you know and he spoke to me being raised with a single mom on welfare she had four kids on her own and it was all about helping the people on the bottom and I just thought to myself I got it by that time my mom had long passed and I thought it It would have been wonderful to have leadership like this while we were growing up. So I ended up on the road with Bernie Sanders in 2016 documenting his campaign. And that was really the thing that opened my eyes, that there was more to the story. And some of that more would not be good for the United States. I started to see that I started to interview young people who had the hammer and sickle on their computer.

And I said, is that a joke? Are you trying to be edgy? what is that about? And they would go to great lengths to convince me that socialism is a stepping stone towards a form of communism that hasn't been tried yet and once we try it, it's going to save

our nation. They really believed this. And I was interested and I felt that I didn't know enough to argue about it, so I just kept inquiring more, like tell me more, how does this work? And everything was, I started to hear that the ideology was

everything was pitted against those who have. And I thought, well, that's a very dangerous thing. I know a lot of rich people that are really good people. They might be in the 1% economically, but all they do is give. And the godmother of my children, who is worth a few hundred million dollars because she created a health supplement

that helps a lot of people, particularly women, and she sold her company. She didn't change. She's a wonderful giving person. So I thought, well, isn't that the same mentality as the bigots, as the racist, that we just classify, this is going to create a class war. And everyone that I met on the tour

was talking about how oppressed they were if they were brown or black. And yet they were driving $80,000, $90,000 of Lexus cars and they didn't look oppressed. And I would say, well, tell me how are you oppressed? But as a white man, I was prohibited from asking certain questions

because they were very clear in telling me that I had no business in. And even delving into those subjects because I couldn't understand. So I thought, well, that's interesting. But I would love to know because if we can help you somehow, it starts with having these dialogues, doesn't it? And a lot of them didn't want to have the dialogues. It was just you don't have a part in this conversation. We do.

You're the wrong sex, wrong color. And I thought, well, this is, I can't support this anymore because this is headed in a really bad direction that's going to. Well, I mean, we were all like kumbaya, right? It was supposed to be all of us together. You know, my parents marched in the 60s, black, white, yellow, red. You know what I mean? Standing together and here we, you know, started feeling like, oh, we're divided now. Divisions the right way.

You know, we're not, you know, we're supposed to be talking to each other. You're not allowed in this conversation. This is our conversation, not your conversation. That's right. I agree. It felt like what's happening here. It seems like the opposite of what, you know, this philosophy used to represent. Yeah, I really saw the beginning of that, facts over feelings or feelings.

feelings over facts i should say you know i really saw that that that was that was beginning uh to bloom in that in that around 2016 because there were a lot of people that would uh just defy logic and say this is my lived experience and if i feel this way then it's real right well well maybe not right you know there's a lot of people who feel that they're ugly or worthless or whatever it might be and they're not right and so are we sure we want to have our our feelings override the facts and and reality of our lives. And that's when I sort of realizing that the ideologies that were being pumped,

particularly through the universities, were incredibly dangerous. Because most of these young people were college students. And I found it very, very interesting of what was carrying them, what was motivating them to be involved in politics. And none of it was about real unity,

about real equality. it was it was about dividing the widening the gap between Victor and and villain you know and and victim right yeah so you know when I used to go up to oh hi California in beautiful place you know it almost felt like that was like your world right I mean it was like it was a little bit it was apart from Hollywood you were one of these guys that managed to establish the perfect life from my perspective right you live in paradise you're up in the hills you know up in in the country, you're making films, you're loved, you're walking into coffee shops,

everyone knows you, right? Every once while you go to Big Bad, Ugly, L.A. to do some business, and then you're back in paradise. Did that shift once? I remember getting the call after pandemic came out and you were getting attacked. They really did call me and say, Delle, look, it's Mickey Willis, the director of Plandemic, and I'm just wondering, you know, how did you handle this, like this level of attack? That's right. Yeah, you know. I appreciate your advice to me because it was that was my my entry into that world of uh and i it was i was going through it at the time so i know who can i speak to who's been through this who understands moving from uh promising careers in hollywood right to now suddenly being a leper right who can i talk to

talk me off the ledge and i appreciate your your advice at that time it was a it was great to get to know you from that perspective yeah um it was it was shocking dell It was really shocking because those that don't know Ohai and what it's known for, it's really the conscious mecca of California in so many ways. You have Escaline and you have Ohai in a few of these areas that are known for meditation and healing and yoga. And when I reached the point where we just couldn't deal with L.A. any longer. And I didn't want any part of Hollywood any longer. But I didn't want to be so far out of the game that we couldn't still do what I love,

which is make movies and storytelling. We were seeking out the place that was close enough, but far enough. And so we found Ohio, and we loved it. And the people were amazing. And just like you said, we had both of our children there. It was home. We thought it was home forever. And one string of things after the other, just like you, we lost our home and a fire.

So studio, home, equipment, gear, everything, as we're rebuilding. And struggling financially because of the loss of our business. the pandemic happens. And we make a pandemic. And in the beginning, people were just celebrating. They could feel it. They could resonate with Judy. And that intuitive primal sense told them that even if they didn't do their own research, this woman is telling the truth. There's something here that's legitimate. And I was getting messages from people. The most common message was, thank you for letting me know that I'm not crazy because I knew something was going on here.

But then, and I would go to the store and people would just say, hey, man, high five, thank you. And all of a sudden the media spins it, two, three days into it after it goes viral. Then the media starts telling everyone what a horrible person, criminal she is. What an incredible, you know, dark,

demented opportunist conspiracy theorist I am that I'm killing grandparents and children and it was amazing how many people bought that. In my hometown, people who knew me, who suddenly went online to just, I'm sorry, I shared this movie, and I said something good about this person, it turns out he's not good. And from the very sources that lie to them every single day,

it got so bad that somebody tried to start a petition online to force our family to move. People were saying, we know where they live, let's go get them. Let's call child protective custody to take their children. And I'm thinking, this is the conscious mecca of California. Right. You know, and somebody did an article,

an interview in an article saying that I destroyed or somehow infected the consciousness of the Ohio Valley, to which my friend replied in the article that if your consciousness is that fragile, you need to really do some more work. Right. Go back to meditating. Right. But it really showed this, it showed this passive aggressive. nature within some of the conscious community, the new age community that I was warned about.

When I first got into the new age community, I had a very wise man to be very careful. And I said, why is that? He said, it is the ego's favorite place to hide. And when this all happened, his words landed for me. I said, now I know what he meant, because there were so many people that were just, they've been bottling their rage because they can't show it because they have to be enlightened. and they find that moment Donald Trump, they went from Donald Trump to then Mickey Willis.

You know, now we have some place to vent this pent-up anger. Right. And everyone, our tribe will not judge us because we've all agreed that that's where it belongs. So now I can let it out. Without doing any kind of, you know, inspection and looking into it, is it true? Is what New York Times says is true?

Should we believe them? Should we look at Dr. Mikovits' claims? Are there patents? They didn't care. It was just, now we can. get to release this rage yeah amazing you know so obviously so we moved you moved you moved just just down the road from me just outside of Austin Texas it's been great having you here and as as we've joked so many brilliant people are finding themselves not only in

Austin but sort of very close to the neighborhoods that we find ourselves in it's like you know I was I was joking and we've talked about it you know it's it's almost like you know you have a bunch of superheroes that all end up in the same room and you're thinking, um, who invited me? Like, no, I didn't invite you. You didn't. And we're all standing there. You're thinking, okay, what's going down? Like, what are we in the middle of here? Um, you know, what was amazing watching you though? Because I sort of stayed very specific. I've been very focused on this vaccine issue. You know, you got in with pandemic and you dealt with that. But some of the videos and the things that you've gotten into, um, I think, you know,

first of all, I asked myself, would you have done this had that liberal, world not turned on the way that did. I mean, you know, because you've really just, you're so open to truth no matter where it lies that I feel like you've gone into some fairly dangerous, scary places. You know, one of them being, you know, probably one of the biggest stories of the year, Kyle Rittenhouse, where everyone else just wanted to write this kid off, he's going to go to jail. Even those that were on his side, he's screwed, you know what I mean? The media's against him. And I remember you put together a video. You really sat down and really put together all the videos that could be found around it, which gave me a different perspective. A perspective

that was so clear that I called a really good friend of mine, also a filmmaker, and said, he's innocent. I think he's going to walk. And this is that that's impossible. Of course, a liberal friend of mine, that's impossible. There's no way. And that friend called me during the trial just a few weeks ago when Kyle had finally gotten on the stand and said, how did you know? How did you know? He's like, I just saw him speak and you're right. I think he's going to walk.

And this friend of mine knows a lot about the judicial system. He's well aware. He knows what, you know, it means when someone's telling the truth. It's like, that kid's telling the truth. He's like, but how did you know? I said, well, because I had a friend that was on top of this. And so I don't want to show just an excerpt of the video that you put out because it was really powerful.

This is the video put out by Mickey Willits and his team on Kyle Rittenhouse. This came out many, many months ago, long before we heard him. in the courtrooms. After two nights of violence, fires, and citywide vandalism, angry mobs gathered on night three to protest the police shooting of Jacob Blake. Adding to the volatility of the situation, many of the protesters were armed. This one got a gun on, this one got it going on. This one got a gun on. This one got guns on the rifles. To prevent the total destruction of their community, Good Samaritans, United to guard local businesses. Among them was 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse.

So people are getting injured. Our job is to protect this business and part of my job is also helping. There's somebody hurt. I'm running into arms way. That's why I have my rifle because I need to protect myself obviously. In the early hours of night three, protesters and guards were in solidarity. Tensions began to rise as protesters set a dumpster ablaze, then began pushing it toward a gas station. A guard quickly extinguished the flames, angering fire starter Joseph Rosenbaum. Shoot me! Rosenbaum retaliated, focusing his rage on a guard in a green t-shirt.

Moments later, just down the street, Joseph Rosenbaum is seen starting more fires. Around that same time, Kyle Rittenhouse is spotted, running down the street, running with a fire extinguisher. With his face concealed, Rosenbaum emerges chasing after Rittenhouse. Oh, he got a gun, baby. While exploring possible motives for the foot pursuit, it's worth noting that the target of Rosenbaum's first altercation was dressed similarly to Kyle Rittenhouse. A single gunshot is fired by a protester.

Seconds later, Kyle Rittenhouse is pinned between parked cars. Let's rewind to analyze this pivotal moment frame by frame. Here we see Rittenhouse, Rosenbaum, and a reporter by the name of Richard McGinnis, who is filming the chase on his cell phone. Directly in front of Rittenhouse, armed with bats and other weapons, a mob is forming a barricade. With no way out and no way to know who fired that shot, Rittenhouse turns to face Rosenbaum.

There was a gunshot, and that's actually visible on video. It's not clear whether or not that gunshot was fun. into the air or towards Rittenhouse, but Rittenhouse did turn around immediately after that. And at that point, he went from running away to aiming his weapon at Rosenbaum. Kyle Rittenhouse fired four shots. I mean, that's just an excerpt.

If you wanted to watch the entire thing, it's called Kyle Rittenhouse, The Truth in 11 minutes. It can be found on YouTube. But, you know, Mickey, you lay out so many things that we weren't hearing from mainstream media. Like, there was just this assumption. assault on him. Look, we should question anybody firing a gun in the street. I have no problem with that. But it should have been a well-rounded perspective on that where, you know, all the video footage

that they could find just, you know, was used and said, you're the only one that did that. You're the only one that went and found every cell phone drone footage, whatever you could to try to piece together what actually happened. Why do that story? I mean, just, you know, just minutes ago you're a progressive liberal, probably didn't believe in the known guns, I'm assuming it's some point you passed neither die you know it's a certain point a lot changes fairly quickly but to go this far why Kyle Rittenhouse and why this story matter to you well because I realized when this happened that this wasn't about Kyle Rittenhouse this was about our right to defend our lives whenever the media the mainstream media is pushing a narrative be

be suspicious the amount of attention they were giving this immediately the their willingness to jump to conclusions to call this kid a white supremacist to say that it was racially motivated when no one involved was a black or brown person they were all Caucasian men and the men that were actually pursuing Kyle that he defended himself against all had some pretty serious criminal records yeah these were not good people and so for me i knew right away they're going to use this situation to stop anyone at the time all the media was supporting the Black Lives Matter, the riots and the destroying of local businesses. Now, the destroying of local businesses is part of this overall agenda.

It's the reason that they allow the big box stores and the Amazon's and all of that make a billion dollars a day now because everyone has to buy from them and they close down all the mom and pop shops because they want to create a state of dependency. The moment everyone is desperate enough to then receive government help, financial help, then they owe us because then we become dependent upon their financial help. And now they can tell us what to say online, who we can associate with, and all of that. It's all about control. And so because I knew that that was the true agenda and it really had nothing to do with this 17-year-old boy, for me it wasn't about, it wasn't about BLM, it wasn't about race, it was about the truth. And the media wasn't telling it. And rarely do they ever.

And before this, the very first thing, the first time that I had gone against the mob, my party, was when I came out to say, I withdraw my support for Bernie Sanders. I didn't say anything bad. I just said, what I saw on the road, I can no longer participate in. And it was amazing, the cult of Bernie. It was amazing at how fierce the immediate attacks were, that I was a traitor, not, not, No one was interested to say, tell me what you saw. We're not on the road with him.

You are. That's interesting. We'd love to know. We want to make sure that we're... And for people to be clear, you were making a documentary traveling with Bernie Sanders. Supporting Bernie Sanders. Supporting him. Shooting those that were interacting with him.

Those that were coming to see him. So you really had a behind the scenes look there. Very much. I was traveling with Rosario Dawson, a very good friend and Shailene Woodley. And they had an RV tour and I was with them. But that granted me access to be on stage and to be at every rally and every... every stop along the way with Bernie. And I got to know him enough to say I liked him.

I liked him just his character. It was very likable guy. But I could not support the ideologies of that campaign any longer. I thought it was detrimental. And so that was my first real experience of how quick they turn. And without any inquiry whatsoever. And I thought, well, that's not good. And then I had been serving the people of Standing Rock

for two and a half years. We were during the Dakota access pipeline struggle. We were there in the 30 degrees below. Myself, several camera operators that I brought with me, and we were fighting that system and helping the Lakota people. And so

I continued to do that for two and a half years. I worked with the Lakota People Law Project. And so I was very kind of sensitive to the needs of our native relatives. And then This story popped up that these kids from Covington Catholic High School surrounded a Native

American elder and they were wearing MAGA hats, red Donald Trump hats, and they were chanting, build the wall. That was the headline that went on all the papers. And I was so disgusted by that that a lot of times I jumped in under my own dime and I just start making a video and we'll just do it and we'll put it out there. And so we started to do that. I came to the office with my team. I said, stop everything you're doing, check this out, look at this.

let's make a video and expose these kids. This is horrible. So you were going out, of course, this is the story of Nick Sandman. That ended up, you know, being everywhere. It's led to giant lawsuits and big wins. But before we get there, your goal was out this kid because he was in. And honestly, for me, I have a Native American background, right? My mother's, you know, Mohawk, my grandfather left the reservation.

I was very sensitive. I'm still sensitive to this story. And I still, you know, like, as you, just this idea of, you know, I believe that there are, members of my Native American family that truly are oppressed in this nation. I think is probably the most looked down upon and trod and minority that exists and they were here first, but not to get too deep into that. So you went in with that level of this type of passion. And it took us about four hours to discover that these kids were being set up and that none of the narrative was true. We had a two-hour live stream of the entire event that we obtained. We had cell phone footage from the boys that we

obtained from chaperones and other people that were there. So we had all this footage that we were exploring. And I told my team, I said, where's the part where they circled the, the indigenous march and said, build the wall. And everyone said, I can't find it. Like it's, well, it's got to look at the two hour live stream. It's got to be there somewhere. And they said, no, but there's these guys who called himself the black Hebrew Israelites said build the wall around the white kids, that's all we can find. I said, well, this is interesting because all the media is certain that they said it. So I call a friend of mine that's related to the Lakota people's fight, and I said, I'm trying to make this video to support that. He said, I was there. I said, oh, well, you were.

Well, then give me the inside scoop. He said, did you hear the kids chant that? And he said, yes, I did. I said, you did. We can't find this anywhere. And what ended up happening, I'll cut to the chase. He ended up saying, in so many words, we know a lot of the narratives, BS, but this is one way for us to take down the colonizers. And this is a white man, too, wasn't.

And I said, take down the colonizers. What do you mean? He goes, well, that was Donald Trump on those stairs, Mickey. I said, Donald Trump was on the stairs. I didn't see him. He said, no, no, those kids represent him. this is a way to take down Trump. And I said,

I'm a father of two boys. These are 15 year old kids, and we can't even find them saying the word damn. They were incredibly well-behaved. And I said, do you understand that they bought those hats? They were at a March, and they were losing each other.

It was a field trip, and a vendor was selling those hats for $5, and they just bought them. They thought it was funny. These are kids who don't quite understand the political implications of that message. And they bought them, so they could identify each other and not lose their group.

I was told that by two different mothers that were there. So I don't really think they're trying to promote any message that you're suggesting. And do you feel okay with these kids being persecuted for something they didn't do? And he said, in so many words, it's a sacrifice, yes. Wow. And I said, I can't do this. And so I went back to the office and I said, first inclination was to scrap the project. Yep.

And then we sat with the crew and said, if we release this right now at this hype of Donald everything you if you say anything at all that might look like it supports Donald Trump yeah we're going to be put in the basket of deplorables and we're never coming out

right what do we do and I just said truth we have to tell the truth this is not fair and if the media gets away with this it's going to affect all of us all sides eventually because this stuff people

you know that's what people understand like the fight against free speech it will eventually affect you it affects us all so we made that video and that was the first time that I'd received death threat death threats thankfully a lot of my Native American friends reached out to me to say thank you we know that the man who set that up he's a con artist and it makes us all look bad so thank you for for creating that division between that false narrative and us right but it was a lot of my liberal friends who were unforgiving and harsh and and just the fact that we would kill a narrative that they could use to forward their agenda to crush Donald Trump, even if it meant

destroying the lives of 50 young men. That was the first time I thought this situation is getting really serious. This ideological war is getting very serious. Well, I mean, you know, I'm reading Scott Atlas's book, which is fantastic. I just got done reading Robert Kennedy Jr.'s book on the real Tony Fauci. And you do recognize that we may all be in a pandemic right now that we know doesn't technically exist for anyone under the age of 65 with major comorbidities. It's a nothing burger for the rest of us. And yet our lives are being destroyed. Our businesses are being destroyed. And it appears as you look at it. As you see Scott Atlas writing about, I don't understand what's happening, except that the desire to hurt Trump,

to bring Trump down meant this virus had to be his biggest mistake. It had to be his downfall. So we're all being dragged. Liberals, progressives, whatever you are, communist, if you're living in this country and the world, we're all being dragged through the mud for an agenda to, you know, around that. And so it really is, and I'm, you know, you and I are similar that way in that it's just about the truth. You know, I don't have a problem. I have friends that attack me. I'm just recently on Facebook. You know, one of the kids I went to school with really attacked that I was coming to Fort Collins, Colorado back to my home to protest a vaccine card, you know, that they're trying to push in Colorado where I lived, you know, and I just very clearly laid out my point that

I'm fighting for you, man. I mean, I don't think you want any government forcibly injecting with products. Remember, I get you hate Donald Trump. What if he gets elected and now he's the one forcing you to take products that his cronies made. I mean, if you would be against that or a future Hitler running this country and forcing you to be back to him, but there's a card that they get to use against you, if you will be fighting Hitler tomorrow, you should be fighting with me today whether you like Joe Biden in this product or not. This is not, you know, we've gotten too short-sighted in our perspective of these stories. We're not looking at the long-term bigger picture. What right am I giving away and what happens

if that right lands in somebody else's hands that I absolutely do not trust. Absolutely. And it's understanding too that these civil liberties never come back. No. So as they say, never let a good crisis go to waste. Right. So these crises are used to justify the stripping away of our freedoms. And if the people are scared enough, they will allow they will allow it in ways that are unimaginable. You know that I was at the World Transit 9-11. And one of the things that I never forget from that experience was shortly after that, one dummy went through an airport with a explosive device in a shoe, and we still take off our shoes today. Right.

One person, 20 years ago. So people need to understand, use that as a metaphor, an example, to understand that they leverage these viruses and these emergency situations to chip away at our freedoms until we're in smaller and smaller boxes. And they never allow those boxes to re-expand once the emergency is over. They now have us, they've now justified contact tracing, surveillance, all the stuff in the name of health. But it's really a game to corral us into kind of a technocracy-controlled environment that will then bring us that much closer to transhumanism, to being merged with the digital realm to where we're literally having relationships all through our devices. No skin-to-skin contact.

Right. No human contact. Those things are being stripped away so that we lose that intrinsic connection to the most fundamental purpose for being alive. And then society breaks down. And then the population goes down to such a degree that it collapses. Right. And so we have to be very aware of that.

And that is one of the key agendas is population reduction and isolation. All of this is by design and we have to wake up to that. Yeah, I agree. We see so many studies now coming out, showing the health, the mental health of these children, you know, with childbirth is down, you know, rage, angers up, suicide at levels we've never seen before, and nobody seems to care. I mean, it's not that our political officials aren't hearing it. I see specialists going to Washington. You hear the statements being made. Articles are being written. And yet here we are. Let's mask back up. We've got, you know, Amacron is here, a virus that should. sure looks very infectious, but is very mild. I mean, as far as we can tell, much lower death rate than dealt to all that. You know, we could all handle this. And yet, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

We know the harms that masking, all that's going to do, we're going to do it anyway. And so, you know, it's really incredible. One of the more recent videos you put out is online right now, dealing with this Afghanistan and the withdrawal and that whole debacle. Again, I think this one is the Afghanistan story. You do it in just a few minutes. These videos are so impactful. Let's just take a look at that.

Last night in Kabul, the United States ended 20 years of war in Afghanistan. No nation. No nation has ever done anything like it in all of history. I'm Ahmed Shahmein from Panshir province or Panshire Valley, Afghanistan. My people wear Tajik's. Tajik's are the number one enemy of Taliban. Right now, they're fighting in my valley, in Panshir Valley. In the Panshir Valley, we see young men,

some clutching little more than antique hunting rifles, prepare to go join the war effort. They are a collection of rural volunteers that America and the world never imagined the country would need after billions of dollars spent on the nation's armed forces. As we closed 20 years of war and strife and pain and sacrifice, it's time to look at the future, not the past.

The Biden administration, well, they want you to move on. But we all remember the scenes. They want us to forget. Afghans desperately clinging to a U.S. Air Force plane on the airport runway. Afghan mothers passing their children to American soldiers over an airport war. 13 American service members and about 100 Afghan civilians were killed by a suicide bomber and videos of the Taliban showcasing their new state-of-the-art military arsenal bought and paid for by you, the U.S. taxpayer. We're here right now for the Taliban as they enter into the, what was only minutes ago,

it was an American-controlled portion of the military airport. now they're taking over. The likelihood there's going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely. The Taliban raised their flag over the Afghan presidential palace. Due to the negligence of this administration, the Taliban now has access to over $85 billion worth of American military equipment. Now most of these bases and weapons are in the Taliban's control.

They could use them against the Afghan people. They could use them to resist an international military intervention. They could even share the sensitive technologies with China. America's arch rival and the Taliban's new friend. It will be to China, Russia and Iran that the Taliban listens, not to the US or their NATO allies. There's going to be no circumstances when you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy.

Chinook helicopters could be seen at the US Embassy as the emergency evacuation gets underway. The extraordinary success of this mission, was due to the incredible skill, bravely, and selfless courage. For him, it was a success. But not for us. It's a disaster for us. But your top military advisors weren't against withdrawing on this timeline.

They wanted you to keep about 2,500 troops. No, they didn't. That wasn't true. I recommended that we maintain 2,500 troops in Afghanistan. I also have a view that the withdrawal of those forces would lead inevitably to the collapse of the Afghan military forces and eventually the Afghan government. There's an incredible part in this video where you show Joe Biden back years ago talking about how he would never sort of withdraw.

It would be harmful. We would lose lives and we would lose equipment and we can never do that again. And then here we are. He literally says if we pull the troops out of Afghanistan, it will take at least a year to do it properly. And if we don't do it, take a year, then we'll have to leave billions of dollars of equipment behind. And that equipment will be used against your grandchildren. in mind. It will take a year to get the American troops out. Do you hear me now? That's the truth. It will take a year to get them physically out. Now, if you leave all the equipment behind,

you might be able to do it in seven months. And you leave those billions of dollars of weapons behind, I promise, they're going to be used against your grandchild in mind someday. Wow. Yeah. How do you, you know, what, you know, the question we always get, right, Why? What is it that happens to these people? Is he the same person? Is he changed? Was they always a liar?

Was there, is the agenda change? What is going on in your mind? Because in some weird way, it feels like it's all connected, right? It may be vaccines over here or gun rights over there or, you know, racial tensions, you know, in these cities. Yet somehow all of it seems to be robbing us of dignity, of confidence, of confidence, and and of rights. Yeah, that's right.

Well, it's an interesting thing to look at through the lens of the psychology that brought us here, because while there's people at the top of the pyramid that are absolutely intentionally creating the unfoldment of this agenda, a lot of the people beneath them, it's a product really of, I would say,

group think and tribalism. So a lot of people, there's a lot of journalists out there that are doing wicked things that really aren't wicked people. but they've lost touch with what's truly important, what truly matters. They've lost touch with their morals. And they're in a bubble where everyone is rewarded daily for bringing the masters what they want.

And they don't stop to think, well, is what I'm bringing the master good for the world that I have to inhabit? They don't stop to think that. The ones that are, and I will say the beautiful thing is a lot of them are, right now. We have people like Brian Williams who just said he can no longer participate in the darkness that has now overcome the media machine. Our dear friend Laura Logan, who's now doing her own thing. My dear friend April Moss, who walked away from a position at a news network, there's a lot of these journalists that are just saying, I can't participate in this anymore, because my children live in this world. And no matter how much you pay me or reward me for,

bringing you your false narrative I now realize that I'm going to have to suffer the results of this behavior so that's you know it's the the the there's one thing that I know that you and I've had conversations about before on this which you were raised around a religious environment I was not and so the idea that people would tell me years ago that this is a battle between the dark and the light there's something evil going on here was not a conversation I was open to and I've reached a point now where I can't avoid it anymore. There's something truly evil at work. And it is biblical.

You know, that there's literally people rising up and it's almost 100% people that have some form of faith by whatever name they call their God or their Savior. It is people that have a foundation of faith that are rising up. And they're the people that we owe our deepest gratitude to right now because they're the ones risking it all to turn the ship around. All around the world, every walk of life, inside of politics, inside of media. I've always known that to be true because I knew I was inside of media. You know, I knew I was in there working for CBS, putting out commercials for Merck and Pfizer, all of that, you know, but waiting for my moment, waiting for when I felt like I was going to be told what it was I was supposed to do. I kept thinking, the reason God has me here, even though, you know, my mom was calling me all the time saying,

Tell what are you doing working on a medical talk show? you've never been to a doctor in your life. This isn't what we believe in. And I was like, well, I know, but, you know, actually it's a really unique opportunity. I'm doing stories that I think are showing more functional medicine and different perspectives and one of the highest rated producers. But still, that answer wasn't fully fulfilling me.

I just kept thinking, I don't know, but there has to be a reason for it. And of course, Vax came along and it was like Bing. I just felt like, oh my God, there hasn't been a lot of free will or not as much as I thought, I was being trained. I really felt, I feel now that I was being trained for the moment I find myself in. And what I always say to people is, you know, as I speak all over this country and, you know, in the places around the world we can still travel to is, you know, I really believe we're all born of the destiny.

I have to believe the universe is honorable. So I can't be the only one that just by telling the truth sort of found this, my destiny, we all must have a destiny right now. There's a reason we're all alive right now, and everyone, you know, we've just got to really listen, shut off the television, get away from the narrative, which you've shown you can do, right? I mean, you and I both have marched in to tell a certain perspective, but have the ability to say, wait a minute, this story's not adding up. This isn't the story I thought I was here for. I'm amazed. I'm amazed how many times I'm in an interview with New York Times or Washington Post or any of these people that are coming to attack me, and I'm really honest with them.

You know, near the end of the conversation, which usually they'll tell me about 20 minutes, I'll give them a whole hour. But at the end, I said, do you recognize how easily I'm answering your questions? Because I've had your job. I know you're here to do a hit piece on me. I get that. I've had to work for those people. But something inside of me has got to be saying there's a problem here.

Because everything that Dell's saying is making sense. He doesn't seem to be evading any questions. He doesn't have some narrative. He's trying to remember what it was so we can hold his lie together, which you're here to try and say that I'm lying. So what are you going to do with this? And I say to every reporter when they're done, I need your help. I cannot be the only one here that doesn't believe we should give pharma a free ride,

have a product that has no liability, and then never do a safety test because we use emergency use authorization to get them out of those trials. What does that future world look like? Certainly you care about that. I can tell. I mean, you can see, you know, like some smoke, a little bit of smoke coming out of the years. They're trying to be, the gears are burning up inside their heads. But as we move forward, you know, certainly more and more of these people are waking up. But are you concerned?

Do you ever get concerned as you do a written house story where clearly there's so much divisive discussions around that? You and I were both in Washington, D.C. on January 6th. I was speaking on a stage. I never got near what happened. You went as a journalist. We brought you on the show. You had video footage from outside the doors. You know, you had your perspective, never went inside.

But as you march on these front lines, it feels like the stakes are getting higher and higher and higher as our opposition is really drawing their line of sand. It is clear to me that whatever this world takeover is about, they're here to fight to the death. Do you get concerned as you see that mission you're on sort of putting you more and more in the limelight of these difficult conversations? Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, we were at an event together this past weekend. And David Martin, before he gave his speech, which was a very powerful and dangerous speech, he had me stand up to thank me for giving him a voice. And then he gave his speech, and I thought, oh boy, oh boy, thanks, David.

I got enough of my own problems. Exactly. But it was actually a very beautiful thing that he, acknowledgement that he gave me. But as these things happen, as I, you know, am more and more out there and giving more people a voice, I know that it's put me more and more on the target list. And they don't stop. You know, Media Matters, George Soros' company, they still, every time I take a picture with somebody,

if that person turns out to be a QAnon supporter, then it's there he is with a Q&N supporter. You know, I will say for the record again, I have no idea what QAnon is. I've never followed it. Right. But they are trying so hard to put me into a label that then can justify people never listening to me again

because too many people listened to me in 2020. And so, yeah, of course we have our concerns. You know, you and I have discussed the practical concerns about our lives and our families and all of that. And we have a lot of things set up as protection around that on many different levels. But at the same time, there's also some solace to be earned by being more public.

The people who tend to hide are actually in more danger. You know, it's important for all of us to step out and to speak as loudly as possible and to join together in power in numbers. Because the truth of the matter is, is if your only window to the world is television, it might appear that we're losing. But the reality is we're winning in a very big way. and it has to get a lot worse before it gets a lot better. Yeah.

And this is a lot of people don't like to hear that because they want it to just end right now. But if it ends right now, there are, there's still half of our nation and half of our world that haven't had a direct experience yet. And they will, they will be the ones who will usher in the same type of thing a few years later. Yeah. And we'll be right back here again. Correct. The one thing, I have stopped trying to convince anyone.

or they say red pill. I don't do that anymore. Because I know that so much is happening so fast that it's only a matter of time until somebody has a direct experience that has them say stop. You've now damaged my wife. A very dear friend of mine,

a former partner of mine, who was one of the first people to reach out with a letter of shame when Planned a McOne came out to tell me he's always loved me and admired me, but what I've just done is, you know, it's just irresponsible and dangerous. And through the last year and a half, I've reached out several times because he's in Melbourne to say, have you seen it yet?

Like, you're living in Melbourne. Are you aware yet? I'm surprised I haven't received a letter to you from you saying, I'm sorry because of what's happening in your nation. And he was 100% for the draconian lockdowns and everything that his government was doing. He thought it was the only way they're going to eradicate the virus and save lives until his wife was damaged by the. the vaccines. And now he's calling me to say, what doctors are you working with? What do they recommend? And I'm sure you've been there dozens of times. And so the harsh reality is, unfortunately, there are many people that are going to have to actually experience it.

Yeah. And that might even be just at the scale of being told they have to get their eighth booster till they finally break and say no. And unfortunately, that should have happened a year ago. two years ago, but it happens when it happens. Happens when it happens. And we're here, and the progress is immense, the amount of people that we get to see because we go to these events with thousands of people, and we get to see all these people from S&L comedians

to top doctors, to media personalities, to politicians that are joining us now to say, and they're from all political spectrums, all sides of the political spectrum, to say, this has gotta stop. And so something really, powerful is happening and I I predict that we will be in a much greater collective state of consciousness awareness in the coming years that we've never been in before because we've never

had an informed population that is actually doing their own research we've been told don't talk politics and just watch the news for your information but now everyone's rejecting all of that they're talking politics and they're doing their own homework And that is going to lead us into a much better environment of community that I don't think that we've experienced in our lifetime. I agree. I was just doing an interview yesterday and the guy was giving me the analogy of, you know, he keeps asking the question to people, is it a light at the end of the tunnel? Is it an oncoming train? And they're all, he's like, he's getting these different views and, well, it's a train, but the train is going to be stopped.

Well, it's really the light, but the train, we have to climb over the train. I said, let me take a crack at this. It is a train, and the sooner you realize it, the sooner you'll turn around and run back to what we once knew is community. Where you get out of that tunnel and say, you know what, this promise of this dream, this transhumanism, making us better people, we're going to beat God, we're going to beat disease. All of that insanity is an oncoming train, and we don't want that future. Turn around. Let's go back to our families.

Let's go back to community. Let's go back to having conversations. Let's go back to free speech. Let's go back to difficult conversations. Let's go back to being human and the conflict and recognizing there is conflict. There's no drug that's going to save us from everything. There's no vaccine that saves us from every one of the million bacteria and viruses that are crawling on my arms right now. Let's get back to it.

It really feels like that is happening. And I agree with you. You know, as you said, in many ways, we don't have enough troops. We don't have enough people that are ready to be warriors for truth to. to really get to that new, the true new age, right? That, that, or, you know, as I said, reflecting on what we have, the best of what we have, but with the modernization, the healing techniques

that are now available, the hospitals we could build, you know, knowing what we know now about chiropractic and acupuncture and light and therapies, all of these things coming together. I'm just, I dream about, you know, where we're heading and it feels like it's the birth pangs of those, you know, that future. You're doing something.

such an amazing work. You so eloquently, you know, just discussed all these things. I was going to talk about Plandemic 3, but I think I'd rather have people go to your website. Instead of us just cutting down some small version of it, people should go and see Plandemic 3. But tell me, what is the goal? What can we expect with this next Herkulean, I'm sure, film? We're excited about this one, though. It's coming out way beyond what we had even envisioned. It will shock people. The style of it will shock people. And this was birth, I'll go ahead and announce it right now.

This was birth at your house two years ago, Thanksgiving. Remember that musical circle we had for hours that probably drove everyone crazy? Oh, no. Everyone was there. Loved it, but it was during the biggest lockdown. It was like crazy times. We had, I think, you know, 70 or 80 people at my house. Exactly.

We were definitely having a defiance party. We were. And in that defiance party, we were singing songs and doing our best to make light of the situation. So we were coming up with crazy songs about Revenge of the Nerds and Anthony Fauci's and the Bill Gates of the world and singing comedic songs. And summer within the course of that, I stepped back and the song was being developed. And I said, we're going to do plan to make the musical. and everyone laughed and I said no and my wife knew because not he knows a certain look on my face she goes he means it I said we're doing it and so that's what we're doing wow it's going to be

you know part documentary straightforward documentary but we're going to use the power of music and comedy our mutual friend j p seers who's incredible comedic legend is is writing some comedic vignettes for it and we want to show the world the the pandemic three open opening begins with all these music videos that people were incentivized to make and they are bizarre. You know, everything from using the needle as some kind of phallic symbol to suggest it's going to feel so good when they stick it in you. Like, really? And some of them are celebrities singing these disgusting songs about how wonderful it's going to be when we all are obedient and get the shot and return to normal and we can hug our family again.

And so we put this montage together of every genre of music you can imagine of these influencers trying through the power of music to convince people to just get the shot. And so this pandemic three is going to really be a mirror up against the absurdity of our current reality to say this is how absurd we've become. And so we have incredible people like Eric Clapton has said he's going to be in it and some really amazing people. And it's going to be serious enough. but we're not going to focus a whole great deal on just the COVID situation because that's not the end game. No.

COVID and the vaccine is all a tool being used as leverage to take us to the end game. And so we're going to talk about that through the lens of stopping the indoctrination of our children and the trafficking of our children. I think it's something we can all, I was looking for that, what is the subject that's most dear to me and that we can all hopefully unite over?

is protecting our children. And so that's the main goal of the movie. But through that, it's going to allow us to then expose all the false narratives that are set in place to terrorize our children into becoming the next generation of slaves. So the climate narrative, I believe in climate. I've been an environmentalist for 20 some odd years. but the media is doing to that narrative and the politicians

exactly what they've done to the COVID narrative. They've taken a virus and they've blown it out of proportion and terrorized everyone into giving up their liberties. And we're about to see that big time with the climate narrative. You're right. They're teeing it up. Yep.

And they're going to be telling us how many miles we can drive a month, what kind of cars we can drive, who we can associate with everything. It's allowing them the total control over our lives. And so we're going to really expose those narratives. What part of the race narrative is only to divide us and is actually incredibly harmful for black people and for brown people. Because most of it's harmful. Most of it's not helping them at all.

It's creating a more race division of race. And overall, a victim mentality mindset that will prohibit them from ever, ever experience. the incredible opportunities that this country provides. Because we always find what we're looking for. If we think that all of America is stacked against us and we have no future, that's what it turns out to be. If we think all women are a certain way, those are the women that we find.

We think all men are dogs. We tend to find men that are dogs. We find what we're looking for. So that the power of belief is something that we need to become more responsible to understand. that we've not even scratched the surface of the power of our minds. Yeah. And, you know, how many times have we seen this through placebo experiments?

You know, of how many people have an experience that actually physically changes their, the health of their body. Yeah. When they've taken a pill that's nothing. Right. And so we need to understand that the people that are controlling the narrative understand this form of mind control. So every message that comes at us is designed to,

to have us surrender our own critical thinking abilities. And when we do that, when we're scared enough, scientifically, a certain part of our brain shuts down and we go into kind of a fight or flight mode. And that's when we're vulnerable. Because when we're in that stage of just surviving, then the politicians can come in and say, vote for me and I'll make your life better.

And that's why they changed it from global warming to climate change instead of calling it what it is. which is pollution. Right. The moment we call it pollution, we can fix it. Right. You don't want to fix it. That's such a great point.

Wow. I'm looking forward to. What's the best way to track all the work? I mean, all these videos coming out is just somewhere where we can find out what the next release is or what you're doing, especially when Plandemic 3 is going to drop.

Absolutely. The majority of the films that we've talked about today are on PlandemicSeries.com. Okay. And all of our films are free. There's a link to my book there, which has done very well, way better than I anticipated.

Went to number two worldwide. Fantastic. And that was, really for me, there was a time in my life when I was striving for an Academy Award because we just kind of, the mindset in Hollywood, that's the Holy Grail. And no longer do we want that. But for me, better than a Holy Grail was seen Robert Kennedy Jr.'s book number one and mine number two on Amazon. So it's like we literally, you know, somehow defeated the gatekeepers. And these two very controversial books filled with.

counter narrative truth made it through and by the power of the people, you know, became the most successful books on their platforms, the people, the same people who want to shut this narrative down. So that is just another example of how we the people actually have far more power, far more power than we're led to believe if we just utilize it and utilize it in a positive way. Stop dwelling on all the negativity and all the absurd illogical stuff. and start doing what buckminster fuller suggested which was said you'll never defeat an old system by trying to defeat the old system only by creating a new system that renders the old system obsolete will we move into a better space so right it's important for us to start innovating

now and start creating those solutions which we are at record at a record rate which gives me so much i almost use the word hope but lately i've been saying hope hope is a stage a very viable stage, but we have to go beyond hope now into a place of knowing, a place of certainty. And I'm absolutely certain that we are going to be victorious over this situation. And we are going to see a global connectedness that we've never experienced before. And so everyone who's in that dark space right now of really wondering when this is going to end, it is going to end. And I think that we're going to come out a much smarter, wiser, more loving and connected people as a result. I agree.

Man, I love you. I love you too, brother. Thank you for taking the time today to share your thoughts. And I look forward to carrying those thoughts in the new year. I'm seeing all the great stuff that you're going to bring us ahead. Thank you for your continued support and your friendship, Dell. It means a lot to me. Absolutely.

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