The Highwire with Del Bigtree - MINISTRY OF TRUTH

Episode Date: November 18, 2022

RHONY Star Bethenny Frankel Goes Off!; G20’s Disturbing Declaration; Congressional Panel: ‘Censorship Kills;’ Top Covid Doctor Under Fire, Exposes Gov’t RNA Vaccine Operation Pre-dating CovidG...uest: Peter McCullough, MD, MPHBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:52 Wherever you are out there in the world, it's time to step out into the high wire. I want to welcome all of you out there from all around the world. We're all, you know, grappling with different experiences, post-COVID, is it post-COVID? Is the emergency still on? What's really going on? Are we going to be free? Are we going to get locked back down? All of this is pushing everybody to a breaking point.
Starting point is 00:01:15 At the moment where we thought it would relax, we're finding ourselves more and more stressed out. and we just kind of want to rant about it. Well, this week, there was a video that went viral of just such an occasion where a very famous superstar decided to go on a rant and express feelings that I think almost everyone that is watching the high wire has felt at one point or another. This is Bethany Frankel, letting it all hang out.
Starting point is 00:01:42 You know what's the best? Everybody's an expert on everything. Like, don't you talk about the vaccine when you're talking about what's gone on with your health. Oh, let me get under the covers. I'm scared because in the last couple of years, it's been so normal. Everything's normal.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Just like locked in our houses, getting sick, chipping our teeth, having 104 fever, then getting shots at CVS, then, you know, feeling sick and not knowing what the fuck is going on because our bodies are upside down. Like, ooh, I'm so scared.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I can't say the V word. Can I say the other V word? Do I have one anymore? Like, what the . Jesus. I'll talk about whatever I want and going through a medical journey and sharing and collecting data. And we're allowed to have conversations.
Starting point is 00:02:28 It's like politics now. Whoever has a problem with me just sharing and talking and learning and expressing. I'm not spreading any kind of like pop propaganda. And we're not f***ing babies. We understand what a vaccine is. We understand side effects. We understand what a flu shot is.
Starting point is 00:02:45 We could decide what we want to do. We could decide to take the morning after pill, we could decide to take NyQuil, we could decide to drink vodka and smoke pot. We get to make our own decisions. Oh, don't talk about it. Oh, my God, if you say something. What are we? We're mummies? No brain?
Starting point is 00:03:04 Ah, shoot me, whatever you want to get me. I'm just walking towards the light. Like, what the fuck? I mean, I'd like to know what's gone on. Then we can make educated decisions. Jesus Christ, people are so, so annoyed. and crazy because the last headline they read, the last thing they read,
Starting point is 00:03:21 are you a genius now? Honestly, you went for 72 years to medical school? You know more than anybody? Shut the fuck up. So sick of being preached to. I think we're all a little sick of being preached to, especially by people that are condescending with a complete and total lack of knowledge.
Starting point is 00:03:41 That's Bethany Franklin, for those of you that don't know who she is. She is a powerful business tycoon. She also was formerly a Real Housewives of New York star. And obviously a very outspoken person speaks her mind. And I think she makes some really important points there. Now, when I was watching this and listening to this, it really, you know, I had to reflect on what this show is going to be about today.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Just coming up in a little while, we have Dr. Peter McCullough that finds himself under incredible scrutiny and threat to his livelihood. based on the fact that he has been referencing the science better than anyone else on this planet, has been vocal about the studies from around the world and has a knowledge of myocarditis and the issues going on in the hearts of people and children better than anyone. And now because of all of that, he is in real trouble. We're going to talk to him about what's going on in his life. But as I sat and, you know, pondered what we were all finding ourselves in, this moment where what Bethany's saying is so important, she's not allowed to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:04:45 She's not allowed to talk about what? well, there appears to be some health issues that are going on with her. Now, I can't speculate as to who triggered her into this conversation or whether or not we get the sense that perhaps she got the vaccine that has something to do with it, but she wants to talk about vaccines isn't being allowed to, wants to talk about what sounds like an autoimmune disease. What she does share we see in this post is this. I've been battling, I've been battling what appears to be some sort of autoimmune issue, or maybe it's inflammatory, but it's histamine-related. It's all very confusing. I've always had low blood pressure, but it is more
Starting point is 00:05:21 recently chronically dangerously low. This affects my energy, my equilibrium, how I handle coming off of sleep, and it requires IVs in intense hydration. My body doesn't retain water, so I require a lot of salt to stay hydrated. When I say I'm thirsty as blank, I'm not kidding. Apparently, and she does go on to reference a moment where she has an allergy to fish. And I think on the show had fish and her blood pressure dropped really low because of that allergic reaction. What she's saying is she's living in this constant space now. I think that these are just, I mean, obviously we've shared so many stories of vaccine injury and all the things that can happen. But it is true.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I mean, here we live in a world now for the first time ever. We watched our government mandate a product that has still not been through a proper full safety trial. We destroyed the placebo group. We've talked so much about that. And so we're left to a population that is receiving and being treated as a, you know, as a sort of a test group or a clinical trial, even though we're not in a trial. And so as we talk to each other about what, you know, are you feeling the symptoms, you're having the symptoms and I'm having, I know so many people are having this conversation, so many people writing in the show,
Starting point is 00:06:40 and now, oh, we're not allowed to talk about it. No, we can't talk about it because, no, it's perfectly safe. There's no study that ever said this was perfectly safe. And now that we're the test subjects, aren't we allowed to talk about what's happening to us? I mean, all of this, you know, really led me to thinking how oppressive this world is becoming and how scary it is and how much it's starting to feel like we are living in a dystopian novel. I've referenced. this many times. But now this week, I think it's really important. As we're going into Thanksgiving week, I have some required reading for you. I've been reflecting, listening to Bethany's video on 1984, this story of a dystopian future where people are not allowed to speak their truth,
Starting point is 00:07:26 and the truth is turned on its head. In fact, it's the reverse of everything they're saying. Here's a trailer for those of you that maybe never read the book or saw the movie. Take a look at this. Crasp your hands behind your heads. Surrounded. Courage, strength and use are satisfied. You are... There are, to be Winston. 30 to 40 group?
Starting point is 00:08:37 Take your places, please. Several plus about this. Do you know. I don't bring this a single piece of meat in this, dear. You knew this all that was. The individual is only a cell. As we were watching that trailer, we all kind of got a kick out of the fact that he says, I don't think there's a single piece of meat
Starting point is 00:09:13 in this stew. I mean, we're talking about nailing it through the wall all the way and all the topics we're covering here on the high wire. But it's this dystopian concept of a world where there's a war always going on that we hear about, but we're never really in contact with it. It makes me think about sort of this war on a virus that has got us all locked up and in taking away so many of our rights. But for those of you that, you know, are unaware of this book, or maybe it's been a long time since you revisited. At the center of this story are the ministries that run everything and the most important one being the Ministry of Truth, which is where the lead character ends up working. And just there's a synopsis on this website that we found that I thought
Starting point is 00:09:53 did a pretty good job. The Ministry of Truth, like the other three ministries, has an ironic name. It purports to be focused on the pursuit of truth when in fact the ministry is concerned with erasing the truth of the past and present and replacing it with whatever the party deems correct. Those in charge of the ministry decide what truth is. I couldn't describe our current leadership in the United States of America any better. They are involved in propaganda like we've never seen it. The real truth is under attack and this false truth is being put in its place. Here's an excerpt from the book describing the Ministry of Truth that I think is very poignant. The Ministry of Truth was startingly different from any other object in sight. It was an enormous pyramidal structure
Starting point is 00:10:43 of glittering white concrete soaring up, terraced after terrace, 300 meters into the air. From where Winston stood, that's the lead character, it was just possible to read, picked out on its white face and elegant lettering the three slogans of the party. Remember, it's all about reverse of what's true. War is peace. Freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength. Just look at those for a moment. We're involved in a war in the Ukraine right now and being told it's for the peace of the world. Freedom is slavery. We have Biden saying to us, this is not about freedom. This is not about your freedom or your personal rights as he mandated the vaccine upon us. This is the only way we get to freedom and this authoritarian control we're being talked about and ignorance is strength.
Starting point is 00:11:35 How many times have you seen people reference those of us that read the science on the vaccine, that read all of the EUA, which we provided when you were watching the high wire, you got to read how this product got an emergency use authorization. We read you trial data. We've sued to get the trial data. And yet the media keeps saying that those people that are reading the reading the the science are the stupid ones and the smart people are those who trust the experts that are being paraded across the television, otherwise known as the main part of the Ministry of Truth in 1984. Trust the science means trust what the television is telling you. Don't trust yourself and do not read. We have turned ignorance into strength. Readers are a danger to society, believers in faith
Starting point is 00:12:29 from an authoritarian figure, you are what make the world great. We're going to get into a lot of the details that are shockingly similar to what is taking place in Orwell's 1984. But I just want to say this, that, you know, as we sit in this moment, and for anyone that wants and, look, we all want to go back to sleep. We all want to take that blue pill again and say, hey, COVID's behind us. But guess what? Our administration isn't letting COVID be behind us, continues to keep re-upping the emergency.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Why? Is that the war that's always going on that we have no control over, that allows them to continue to have authoritarian dictatorship and control over our lives? Why do they want that? You've got to ask yourself. And mostly, what I want to say is now more than ever. When you see the things we're going to discuss today, we need to wake up. We need to stay awake, and we need to wake up everyone we know. I've said it before. We won the battle when it came to COVID, but there is much more to come,
Starting point is 00:13:35 and trust me, they're working on it as we speak. So to discuss more of this dystopian world we are now living in, it's time for the Jackson Report. All right, Jeffrey, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, eerie when you sort of reflect on, you know, It's no longer a novel. It's almost like a user's manual when you look at, you know, what's being described in some of those futuristic books like 1984. I mean, it's at this point is prophetic.
Starting point is 00:14:15 And there, you know, in 1984, there were just little isolated factions of people that were really trying to push back against this overarching narrative. But fortunately, we're seeing a lot of people pushing it back against it. And even in our political class here in the United States, We have U.S. Representative Chip Roy. He's a representative from Texas. And he and his fellow members of the House Freedom Caucus. This is a congressional caucus held a COVID-19 accountability hearing. To talk about, you know, one of the big things was censorship.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Take a listen to how that went. Okay. We've had a good conversation here about our response to the pandemic. We're going to talk a little bit more about vaccines in a minute. But we want to make sure we have some time here set aside for medical censorship. Each of you have talked about that. And I think it's important to highlight it. Again, this is a problem.
Starting point is 00:15:02 preview of where we need to go with longer, deeper hearings in the next Congress. This session that we want to cover a pattern of medical censorship throughout the pandemic, that each of you have talked about you. Two of you are co-authors of the Great Barrington Declaration, which advocated for a focused protection approach by protecting the elderly and most vulnerable and not locking down healthy children. And despite that declaration being completely apolitical, Dr. Fauci and Collins labeled it fringe and did their best to impuging the expertise of its authors and signers.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Under the Biden administration, public health bureaucrats, the CDC work closely with big tech to shut down voices that encountered their narrative under the guise of stopping misinformation. Now you have California punishing doctors who speak up under a new law. I'm going to turn this over to my friend from Florida, but let me just start really quickly for any of the witnesses. What effect does medical censorship have on the medical profession in the field of science broadly? And then I'm going to turn over my friend from Florida. It's a disaster. It's a disaster. When you have a new disease like this, a new epidemic like this, it is absolutely vital to get the honest ideas and opinions of every expert, no matter what conclusion they come to.
Starting point is 00:16:12 You learn the truth by this kind of debate. What censorship did is it's not just that it suppressed the voices of the people that were censored, although that was bad enough. It sent a signal to other scientists that, look, these areas are too controversial. Stay out of them. Otherwise, you're going to lose your reputation, too. And as a result, you have this illusion of a consensus that never existed on so many topics. We rob the American people of a true debate,
Starting point is 00:16:39 a true discussion about this. I mean, it's not that we're always right. I mean, Lord knows that's not true. The issue is the truth comes from people honestly engaging with the data. Censorship kills that. Censorship kills science. And I think censorship actually killed people during this behavior.
Starting point is 00:16:56 dynamic. It's such brilliant truth. And when you see the three gentlemen sitting there, Badacharya, Koldorf, and Atlas, all at the top of their game, really, some of the best doctors and scientists in the world. And they have been censored and under threat. And that is what these hearings are about. And I have to say, you know, not to be political on this, but as a lifelong, former lifelong Democrat, I don't see a single one of these panels.
Starting point is 00:17:26 with a Democrat on it. I don't understand what's happened. I know all of you that are out there conservatives say, well, wake up. It's always been that way. But there was something to being liberal. I was raised to believe in liberty. My parents fought for freedom of education and you know, against wars. And now I find that the party I grew up in is pro war, is fighting wars. And those that used to, you know, considers themselves Democrats in anti-war are upset when Donald Trump was pulling out of Afghanistan. All of these things are just, like, it's just that reversal, right? Everything is on its head.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And it's shocking that we find ourselves in these positions and having to watch great scientists state the obvious. Censorship equals death. Right. And that should be really a takeaway from Dr. Bottacharya there. Amazing statement. Censorship kills people. So you see, you know, signs on people's lawns.
Starting point is 00:18:22 You see these memes saying, We do not stand for hate. We're pro-democracy. We're pro-science. Under the guise of all of those things, we have seen record censorship of the medical community. And so that's what's happening. So anybody in the medical community that wants to be pro-science against hate, against violence, censorship kills people. So this is what we're talking about here.
Starting point is 00:18:45 When we talked about the vaccine not stopping efficacy, the vaccine efficacy not stopping infection or transmission, even ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. This was just flatly censored. And that really killed people because those medications could have helped people. The understanding that this vaccine didn't stop transmission could have helped people as well from the get-go. So I'm just looking at the reversal of that, right? They literally said the products that worked that had up between 50 and 80% success rate in hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, those were dangerous. The things that could heal you were label as dangerous. The product that had never been properly safety tested and ultimately didn't do anything was promoted as our only way out that was going to heal us. Pax Lovid is the only safe drug.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And now we've seen that its interactions with drugs is causing problems for millions of people around the world. So again, everything is almost the opposite of what we're being told. Right. And explaining this as someone may be hearing it for the first time. Okay, you have an experimental vaccine product that is being pushed out to the public and warp speed. The safety science was cut. The science timelines were cut, even though we were told they weren't cut. No corners were cut. They were cut.
Starting point is 00:19:56 And we have a medical community, an intelligentsia of very qualified people ready to dig into this data and look at it and really help and help with this warp speed to make sure everything's safe. On the flip side, you have a recently retired vaccine research and development head at Pfizer coming out with a headline like this. COVID vaccines. We flew the airplane while we were still building it. This is Catherine Jensen, retired head of the R&D at Pfizer. And now she's not working there anymore. She can talk a little, I guess a little freer. So this is a big expose in nature. And she says this in the article. I mean, just jaw dropping. We got creative talking about developing this COVID vaccine. We couldn't wait for data. We had to do so much at risk. We flew the airplane while we were still building it. all the bureaucracy fell away.
Starting point is 00:20:47 We were doing things in parallel, looking at data and doing the manufacturing. Usually, manufacturing doesn't get involved until years into the program. So this is why, this is the flip side of it. They're just racing for this thing. And you have doctors like Dr. Atlas, Baccharia, saying, let's look at some of this. These restrictions may not be, you know, appropriate for this intervention that's not stopping transmission. And so this is the big story. And the big story now, as we've already covered.
Starting point is 00:21:15 is, you know, Department of Homeland Security. One of the big pillars for them now is disinformation around vaccine efficacy, around medical conversations, really just gatekeeping that debate on all digital platforms. So the Department of Homeland Security was created by George W. Bush. It was handed off to Obama, Trump as well, and also Biden. And this department has continued. And it's interesting now because out of the shadows, disinformation is the biggest ticket in town now. We have George W. Bush and Barack Obama holding back-to-back conferences.
Starting point is 00:21:49 George W. Bush and Barack Obama will hold back-to-back disinformation conferences following Trump's big announcement on Tuesday, but organizers say it wasn't planned. So there really doesn't have anything to do with Trump. The Homeland Security Act was started enacted in 2002, which created Department of Homeland Security. And this thing has been going ever since. And now it's aimed at the medical discussion. Everyday people talking about their vaccine injuries from this COVID vaccine. But the real big story here is this digital space. It's becoming highly regulated.
Starting point is 00:22:16 It's becoming centered. It's becoming controlled. So we can't even ask questions or do proper investigations. And a lot of this was, you know, I'm not going to say planned, but the technology was wading in the wings. There's a company called Thalas. This is a company from France. It's a global technology company focusing on big data, artificial intelligence and cybersecurity. Also in transportation, let's take a look at one of their promo videos from 2020 in October.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Look at this. Hello everyone, meet Lucy, student in psychology, and me, her digital ID wallet issued by the government to offer a wide range of identity services. In fact, I'm a handy way of proving and protecting her identity, both online and face-to-face. Let's have a closer look at what I can do. I can help governments to better communicate with citizens. Right now, I'm reminding Lucy of the appointment she needs to schedule for her mandatory. vaccination. Time to go to her exam. Lucy is a bit stressed out. I'm here to make it easy for her to prove she is the right candidate with a quick and secure connection between her phone and the
Starting point is 00:23:34 examiners. Exam passed successfully, quick stop at the doctors before celebrating, and no time to lose. On the way, Lucy uses me to declare her passport lost. She needs it for her upcoming road trip. No issue. She can request an emergency digital passport without having to go to the authority office. I make official admin a lot smoother. And that's not all. I can also help Lucy request a birth certificate, pay her taxes, or prove who she is when onboarding to new services, such as opening a bank account. I allow Lucy to certify her health care coverage entitlement. She's able to decide whether to authorize the doctor to access her medical records or not, ensuring her control over her personal data.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Lucy needs one more thing before being all set for her trip to Australia. Renting a car, I help her share her driver's license credentials online, so that she doesn't have to wait hours in a queue to collect the car when she gets to Brisbane. The rental company benefits from secure and accurate information and Lucy from a smooth experience. Lucy's friends are waiting for her inside the bar. To allow her to get in, I simply generate a QR code that proves Lucy is old enough, so she doesn't have to share all her ID details with the bar staff. So yes, I'm Lucy's best companion.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I protect her identity and official credentials wherever she goes. I provide secured access to public and private services and allow her to have full control over her data privacy. In other words, I give the right access, to the right data to the right person. I am also trusted by governments to best support country's digital transformation, fight against ID fraud, and deliver smooth public services.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I am the Talas Digital ID wallet. Wow, that is chilling. You know, I think that's the third time I've watched as we've prepared for this show, and I just recognized something I had before that the actress playing that role. Normally it sounds like she should be like bubbly and smiling and really psyched, but watching it again,
Starting point is 00:25:57 she constantly looks like she's getting bad news. She's looking at the window with like a sense of dread. I mean, she actually is playing the role as I think we will all feel somewhat controlled and dark and dismal about the world around us. But clearly, this is a giant company and I'm sure they're not the only ones out there competing for government's business right now. Just think of the investors in companies like this that are looking to sell technologies not too like people in a Walmart, but but to governments for every single human being to have to use, these are the largest types of products that the world is looking at right now.
Starting point is 00:26:39 The investment must be massive, and what we're up against is, it's terrifying because you know that's where they want to go. And I've said before, I think that we won the battle of COVID. They wanted something just like that by the time we finished up with COVID. Maybe it's why, you know, Biden doesn't want to let it go. but folks, this isn't going away. Right. Travel, healthcare, restaurants, even schooling.
Starting point is 00:27:05 If you want to see what a soft launch of some of, you know, similar technology looks like with the government really pushing on it, you look to China. And just recently something interesting happens in China is they're starting to relax some of their restrictions. So these are the mainstream headlines coming out of China, which are kind of differing from what we really reported on. China eases quarantine rules, flight bans, insist it's not giving up on zero COVID-19. It's still going zero COVID, but here's the real conversation, just like we just like what you just
Starting point is 00:27:32 talked about as the wave of COVID and the fear and the restrictions just backs off, what's left, you know, sitting on the beach there? And this is the question people are asking in China. China says it's beaten COVID. So is the pandemic now an excuse to control its population? It says in here the zero COVID regime has supplied proof that control over every aspect of people's life is doable, said Yan Zhuang Huang, a Chinese public. health expert at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York.
Starting point is 00:28:01 It's not hard to imagine that components of the QR code system brought in for zero COVID could be retained to facilitate state control as part of a bigger agenda to re-engineer Chinese society. And that's kind of what looks like what's happening. It says people have to scan the QR code for the most basic activities. Remember the video we just watched. Entering a shop or restaurant taking a bus or train, going to the cinema. If the app shows a green result, they can continue.
Starting point is 00:28:26 If it's red, usually meaning they are an undefined close contact of someone who tested positive, they are sent to quarantine. We've seen some of those quarantine camps. But what's interesting about this is you have the banking component or the social control component of this beyond COVID. So this past summer, there was some rural banks in China that just basically froze people's accounts because there was a bank run. People all were trying to take out their money at once.
Starting point is 00:28:54 The bank said you can't get access to your accounts. anymore. And some people had the retirements in there, so on and so forth. So there was a protest plan. The people that were going to protest all of a sudden had their their QR codes turn red, which meant they were a close contact or someone who was a close contact and they had to go to quarantine. They couldn't travel. And here's the headline. This is CNN. China's bank run victims plan to protest. Then their COVID health codes turn red. Now, an investigation was brought into this, but this is some of the ideas of what could happen with this greater control. And if you think, well, it's just China.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Let me think about that just for a second. Like, and this scared me even when we were talking about contact tracing. Remember, and we're still doing it, right? Every time we take that app and we get the menu in a restaurant, right? We're clicking that menu. That was all part of contact tracing. So that if someone at that restaurant ended up getting sick and I was there, they could have quarantined me.
Starting point is 00:29:50 And then when you imagine authoritarian governments, and if you believe you can trust them, I don't know how you could, but what's to say they don't just make it up? In that case, well, you were against us in the banking issue. We're just going to make your phone, which is your life now, you're literally your leash, say that you were in the vicinity of someone that had COVID. I mean, it's, again, it's just, it's an elusive, imaginary, invisible enemy now that we're all being protected from. And we can, again, it's just, it's an elusive, imaginary, invisible enemy now that we're all being protected from. And we can. can isolate anyone we need to, the moment we need to, on the assertion that somehow we've got information that you could be a carrier. Exactly. And the conversation goes beyond China. It goes, well, that's just China. And they're really ahead on that piece because they're a little stronger on their populations with control. Or they're a communist and we're not. Right. Or that was just for COVID. And, you know, COVID's over where we're not seeing the infections anymore. So obviously, we're not going to do the passport here in the United States. Think again, this is the G-touch. It just ended in Indonesia and Bali.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And this is the Indonesian Minister of Health. Really, this is the headline that came out of it. Breaking G20 panel calls for global digital health passports. America is part of this G20. And listen to the Indonesian Minister of Health. This is what he had to say. You're not going to believe it. So let's have a digital health certificate acknowledged by WHO.
Starting point is 00:31:16 If you have been vaccinated or tested properly, then you can move around. So for the next pandemic, instead of stopping the movement of the people 100%, which clocked the economy globally, you know, you can still provide some movement of the people. Indonesia has achieved, G20 country has agreed to have this digital certificate
Starting point is 00:31:41 using WHO standard, and we will submit into the next World Health Assembly in Geneva as their revision to international health. regulation. So hopefully for the next pandemic, we can still see some movement of the people, some movement of the goods, and movement of the economy. I mean, it's incredible when you think these health ministers, their approach to health is forcibly injecting us with products that have never been tested for safety. And then to achieve freedom, we enslave ourselves with basically
Starting point is 00:32:12 an ankle bracelet like we're in prison that allows us to move around freely those of us that are complying to the mandate of untested products. I mean, the whole thing is horrifying. And he did not say the COVID-19 vaccine. There was no words in there about just the COVID-19 vaccine. He said for vaccines and he said for the next pandemic, which led me listening to that, you may lead people to believe, well, that's maybe if they come out with a shot for some next pandemic, 50 years in the future. But the White House on its own website after the G20 released this declaration. This was the G20 Bali Leaders Declaration. And this is what it says in there. Under it's a gigantic document, but when it's talking about vaccinations, it says,
Starting point is 00:32:55 we acknowledge the importance of shared technical standards and verification methods under the framework of the IHR. Those are the international health relations in 2005 to facilitate seamless international travel, interoperability, and recognizing digital solutions and non-digital solutions, including proof of vaccinations. Then it goes on to say, we support continued international dialogue and collaboration on the establishment of trusted global digital health networks as part of the efforts to strengthen prevention and response to future pandemics. That should capitalize and build on the success of the existing standard and digital COVID-19 certificates. So I thought we didn't have those in the United States. And now the White House is saying we need
Starting point is 00:33:34 to build on the success of the digital COVID-19 certificates. That's kind of a complete opposition of what the public is being told and what is being reported on. Yeah, it's outrageous, you know, and to see the United States of America sort of this harmonizing event where all of our technologies can speak to each other internationally. And when you look at this, what is so shocking about this as Americans, and we're an international show, for those of you out there watching, you know, we have a sense when we grow up here in America that we believe in freedom and we are not a part of some globalist movement. We stand on our own.
Starting point is 00:34:10 We don't sign off because other countries say so. But here in the failure of bringing about really a COVID passport here in America, it almost feels like our government is going to defer the power to the WHO and international bodies, which is what I've been saying here. I am deeply concerned that the decisions being made for the United States of America are no longer being made from inside of our borders. All of this, this G20 event is directly intertwined with the World Economic Forum and all of these other groups that are really looking at the globalization of the world.
Starting point is 00:34:43 which means we just become second-class citizens in a web of control, authoritarian control. And we love what we're seeing. I mean, the fact that this is coming out of Indonesia and China, and we are following in their footsteps, instead of them following in ours, really, really just disturbing developments, to say the least. And this really locks in with some of the reporting we did before COVID for people that are just tuning in now. And we were talking about a digital, we're warning about a digital passport system for vaccinations. And that is what the UK, there's a driving document. It's actually the European Commission, which is the executive arm of the European Union.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And they have a document there. It's called Strengthening Cooperation Against Vaccine Preventable Diseases. This was in 2018. And you can see here one of the quotes from here, it says this is kind of a guiding document of what they were hoping to do at that time. examine the feasibility of developing a common vaccination card passport for EU citizens that takes into account potentially different national vaccination schedules and that is compatible with electronic immunization information systems and recognized for use across borders. Well, if you look at this image from this document, they give kind of a timeline of this.
Starting point is 00:36:01 And again, before COVID, you see it starts in about 2018 and it goes the timeline of deliverables. and it goes all the way to 2022. And in 2022, it says here that it's considered delivered. That action item is considered delivered in the format of a commission proposal. And that commission proposal is this. It happened in April of this year, the regulation of the European Parliament and the Council on the European Health data space. So there it is, again, this digital space.
Starting point is 00:36:29 This is kind of the war zone we're really fighting for here of trying to keep control of our information, but not let it be used, our medical information. vaccines particularly, not let it be used to control us. And so we have right now in the United States, there is still a COVID emergency. And one of the big stories was health and human services was supposed to give 60 days notice to states if it was planning on ending the COVID emergency. Now, it has recently been re-uped just a couple weeks ago and it was going to be ending supposedly in January of 2023. But that 60 day limit came and went. That was on November 11th, and there was no sign from HHS or the Biden administration that they were going to end this, which was required for them.
Starting point is 00:37:15 So the guess is that it's going to keep going. But Senate has voted. This is the headline here. This is a really important, really a demarcation line now in America's COVID response. The Senate votes to end COVID emergency. Biden says he'll veto if House passes. The Senate passed this measure in a 62 to 36 bipartisan vote, mind you. So this is what we're looking at here in the United States.
Starting point is 00:37:39 There's a battle to get these COVID shackles off us. But at the same time, that's the federal level. That's the battle happening right now. At the same time, at the state level, we have a first coming out of Colorado. This is Governor Jared Polis. And this was really his press release from the website, from the governor's website. Governor Polis takes action and response to COVID-19, RSV influenza, and other respiratory illnesses. And this is what it says in here.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Today, this was just a couple days ago. Governor Jarrett Pohl has signed an executive order amending and extending the current COVID-19 disaster declaration to include RSV influenza and other respiratory illnesses. Dell, this is monumentally big, and I did not see anybody really reporting on this. People on Twitter sharing this, obviously, but the media has not picked up on this. And this is an extension of that emergency, and it's expanding it. This is kind of our worst fear is expanding this into flu season now. we're going to possibly wear masks for the rest of the flu season. I mean, it doesn't say that in there, but you can see how this can run.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Well, you get the emergency, I mean, whatever this emergency is. And remember, prior to just, you know, two years ago, epidemics came every 50 years. These people are acting like every six months. We have a new epidemic, and we need to call it a crisis and turn it into emergency, which allows us to rush products out without any safety testing, gives authoritarian control to singular entities, like the President of the United States, like the governor of a state, where they can bypass Senate and Congresses, you know, and assemblies
Starting point is 00:39:12 in order to just do what they want. And it really is, we've got to keep our eye on this. And what the irony of this, for everyone that's watching the high while right now, you know that the science we're looking at is there appears to be this potential that the vaccine that was mandated on everybody is creating a susceptibility now is lowering the immune system so that we're, seeing a rise in RSV and flu. So the very thing that was used supposedly to protect us is now putting us at risk in causing the epidemics that are now going to demand emergency crisis status
Starting point is 00:39:48 so that we have dictators instead of democracies or republics, if you will. Right. So we're going into the holiday season here. And what does the media do best? It divides, or I should say at its worst, it divides and it causes fear in people. So we're going into the holiday season. And And we have NBC News running a report with an expert. And take a look and see if you can see what I'm about to show you. And it's in the far right corner in the text box. Look at this. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:17 You know, Dr. John, a lot of parents are so concerned about this. If it's not one, it's the other they're worried about. So frankly, why does RSV specifically hit some kids so hard? And then it seems like it almost doesn't affect others. You know, the vast majority of kids by the time they reach the age of two have been infected by RSV. But like you mentioned, not that man. actually get complications from it, even less have issues with broncholitis or getting hospitalized. The honest answer is we don't exactly know why that is happening, but we do know there are a couple
Starting point is 00:40:44 factors involved. Number one, the younger they are, if they are premature, they're going to have some lung issues as well. And it's a small airway disease. So if they have small airway problems, that can cause an issue. If they're smoking in a house, so if they're exposed to secondhand smoke, if mom smoke where they are pregnant, that could also lead to more complications and more risk of having issues. But overall, the answers, we don't know, which means that all babies need to protected. It's amazing how quickly they went from a twin demic, which was the potential for COVID and flew into a triple demic. And just fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear for your lives so that we can just keep you locked in your home. I've never seen anything like this.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Avoid physical interaction with unvaccinated individuals. I mean, this is absolutely unbelievable. And again, if we're talking about the COVID, RSV doesn't have a vaccine. It's in the works. but if we're talking about the COVID vaccine, not stopping transmission. Also, we built it as we were flying the plane, says the R&D director from Pfizer. So it's just absolutely insane. But this is what we're talking about. And now there's more studies coming out along the same lines of the studies we continue to cover here. This is out of Qatar and they're looking at natural immunity again.
Starting point is 00:41:55 We have this natural immunity. That's just this uncomfortable fact for the vaccine developers. Protection from previous natural infection compared with mRNA vaccination against SARS, COVID-2 infection and severe COVID-19 in Qatar, a retrospective cohort study. They looked at over 170,000 individuals in this study. This is what they said here. This is their findings. The overall adjusted hazard ratio for SARS-CoV-2 infection was 0.47 after previous natural infection versus BNT6-F Pfizer's vaccination and 0.51 after previous natural infection versus MRNA 1273 vaccination. That is Moderna. So keeping that up there, when you're looking at the hazard ratio, how to read this.
Starting point is 00:42:34 0.47, you just basically subtract that from 100. And you get 53%. So natural immunity reduced the risk of infection by 53% and then 49% compared to Pfizer and Moderna's vaccines respectively. Now, it gets even more interesting when we get to really the nuts and infection perform 53% better than having had the vaccinations. And so when we look at it. at that news thing saying, avoid the unvaccinated. Again, here we are in the reversal of the truth. The actual truth is the safest people walk this planet. By the way, in the endemic state that we're now in with COVID, the overwhelming odds are that you've already had it, whether you know it or not. Everyone's come in contact with it. Your body has dealt with this. So you have immunity.
Starting point is 00:43:25 You are now, if you haven't been vaccinated, you're not getting that repeated over and over again. illness like we're seeing Biden and in Wienneski. These people are getting sick four, five, six times because as we said, you have this original antigenic sin problem amongst many others, maybe immune enhancement problems. We have negative efficacy. All of this from the vaccine. The one thing they're telling you is supposed to be making you healthy is actually putting you at risk.
Starting point is 00:43:50 And the one group you can be safe around is the previously infected, the unvaccinated, and your news is telling you isolate those people, segregate them, treat them horribly because they're putting you at risk. Right. And so the infection really is not the, with the radical arm of the medical media, if you will, tries to defend the hill that they try to defend is hospitalizations, intensive care, mortality, and death from COVID. That's the thing that they still hang their hat on. So let's see what this study has to say about that. It goes on to say this. The overall adjusted HRS has a ratio for severe acute care hospitalizations, critical intensive care unit hospitalizations or fatal COVID-19 cases was
Starting point is 00:44:30 0.24, again, that's 76%. So keep going after previous natural infection versus BNT 162B2. That's Pfizer's vaccination and 0.24 after previous natural infection versus MRNA-12-73 vaccination. So this is, natural infection is reducing your chance of those things, hospitalization, intensive care units, and mortality by 76%. So you have a better chance, 76% better chance of not suffering those things. things or dying with natural immunity.
Starting point is 00:45:03 And this isn't a study of 300 people. It's 170,000 individuals were part of this study, correct? Right, right. And so the study is really interesting because it goes on even further. So those results are pretty interesting and very important, but it goes on further to say this. Vaccine protection against infection waned with time after the second dose. This is something we know from other studies as well, whereas natural immunity showed little waning in protection for at least eight months after the.
Starting point is 00:45:30 primary infection, even during the Omicron wave, natural infection was associated with lower incidences than BNT 162B2 and MRNA 1273 vaccination. And then it goes on to say this. It starts to talk about mechanisms. Vaccination induces systemic immunity that might not be retained in the upper respiratory tracts, unlike natural infection, which induces longer term and strong mucosal immunity at the site of the virus entry and replication. So remember, Peter McCullough was, you know, just raked across the coals by the sensors for saying, there's an iodine solution, and if you basically gargle with that,
Starting point is 00:46:07 squirt that in your nose, because it's replicating in the nasal ferrics and in the throat, and then it gets into the lungs, and that's obviously where the really big problems with COVID happens with the lungs and the oxygen saturation. So this study is really confirming those things. Yeah, and it just shows you too.
Starting point is 00:46:24 The natural infection does give you immunity in your lungs and through the whole system, injecting this thing. It's not creating, this, you know, antibody production and memory inside the lungs, which is problematic. And it's why we're probably seeing multiple infections amongst the vaccinated versus those that had a natural infection, you know, across the board. What we are showing on the high wire is the science-based, you know, evidence. We're backing in evidence. And I want to just tell everyone out there, there's no show like this. We are completely transparent. We're not asking you to take
Starting point is 00:47:00 Jeffrey Jackson's word for it or my word for it. All you have to be is a member on our newsletter, which simply means you're going to take the next five seconds of your busy life, scroll down the page at the highwire, and just type your email in to subscribe. That's it. We're not going to charge you anything. And then on Monday, you'll be able to read this exact study, the entire thing, not just the excerpts, but you'll have a link to the whole study that you can show your family over Thanksgiving and say, you know, I know you want to say that I was crazy for vaccinating but read this 170,000 people study look what they're finding and if you've been on our newsletter then you know that we have this is like you know you know tens and you
Starting point is 00:47:40 know of these studies just like them showing exactly the same thing. Jeffrey the work that you're doing has been phenomenal we still stand this we haven't had to retract I've got you know some fact checkers now saying how many things you've retracted in the last year And I'm like, none. Because all of the things we've said is science-based, and the science keeps moving in the directions going. Nobody in our science world has had to reverse course. Yet that doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:48:12 People's lives are still under threat. But there we are. I mean, we live in this dystopian world where the opposite of what is actually true is being forced upon us by our government and celebrated by our news agencies as truth when it is not. Great work. Yes, and the simple answer to that is do your own research.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Anybody that's trying to censor and censor the debate, it doesn't want the entire breadth of information there. They want a section of it that they can control. So just do your own research and do your own reading. It's not that hard once you start doing it. Yeah, and forget about what they're saying. Reading actually does make you smart. Avoiding reading is not your hope for the future.
Starting point is 00:48:55 All right, Jeffrey, great work. Thank you. And I'll see you next week. Happy Thanksgiving. You know, by way, it's coming up. All right. Yeah, see soon. Well, look, folks, I mean it.
Starting point is 00:49:07 You know, there's a lot of times, I'm all about hope. We have gained ground. As I said, 30% of Americans rejected this vaccine. How many of those that got it, the 70% that got at least one shot only did it because they were forced under duress to take it? The truth is, as most people are smarter enough to know, I don't want to take it. I don't want to take a product that wasn't properly safety tested for several years. I'm not doing it. But they had to give in some, at least they thought they did, in order to continue to feed their family.
Starting point is 00:49:40 I've always said in the highway, leave the state, move to somewhere like Texas or Florida, where, you know, you had more ability to opt out of these things. But whatever the case, that means that we're not only 30 percent, we're much larger than that. And now when we look at the stats coming in, I think of the infants that have now been, you know, recommended to receive this vaccine, we're under like 5% of parents actually getting this vaccine for their infants. Of those that are, you know, able to get the bi-valent booster, I think only like 30% of those that is being recommended to that got their previous vaccines are getting it, meaning 70% of the people that believed in this vaccine at one point are now going against the CDC.
Starting point is 00:50:22 This means that this is our time to strike. This is the time we've got to shift out of this, you know, this slip and slide, we're on to authoritarian control of our lives, especially here in America. We should be leading the world and be the beacon of liberty and freedom, not following China and saying, boy, we really love how that technology seems to be working in China and love that idea of zero COVID and locking down hundreds of millions of people at a time and letting them starve in their houses. That's something to emulate. Well, as we move into these really, delicate and important years. These next couple of years will literally decide the future of humanity, whether we're going to remain free and walking amongst each other, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:08 using dollars to buy whatever we want, or we're going to be shackled to something that is literally controlling every part of our life. You've got to ask yourself, how much can I do? How much can I actually personally do? And I know it's exhausted. Watch the highway. I say, man, Del, you're putting so much responsibility on me. But what I can say that you can do is You have to choose to help those groups, those nonprofits, those companies that are actually fighting for you that are going to be out there over these next couple years, literally watching all this news when you don't have time, investigating what's actually being written, seeing what the White House is actually saying.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Are they aligning with Indonesia and China? Because if they are, somebody better do something about it. And what are you going to do? You better sue. Are there lawyers out there? Yes. All of that is being done by us here at the high wire in our nonprofit. at the informed consent action network.
Starting point is 00:52:00 We are doing these deep investigations for you. We are turning over every rock that we find, and then we find an issue that is going to try and rob us of our freedom. And let me be totally honest here. You know, I'm not like this altruistic, you know, guy that's Superman, that's trying to save the world.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I have kids. I have two beautiful children that I am trying to save their world. That's what this is about. And if I end up saving their world and I get to save your kids too, That's great. In our teams, everyone here, we've got our kids we are fighting for, but we are doing it at the highest level. We've got Aaron Siri leading the greatest legal team the world will ever see winning lawsuits where no one thought it was possible. No one was suing
Starting point is 00:52:43 when we stepped into this arena and we've won more than any group out there. We've won more. Lawsuits against our government National Institute of Health, Health, Human Services, CDC, FDA. We beat back a law that was passed in Washington, D.C. We beat back laws in San Diego trying to bring the COVID vaccine. And we've already stated we are going to fund every single case across this country in whatever state tries to say that you can't put your child in school unless they get a COVID vaccine. We are already ramping up and preparing for that, but it's going to cost a lot. And we are on it.
Starting point is 00:53:18 So I really want you to think as we come into the end of this year, what is the year ahead? What are they planning on? We may have gotten away with not getting the passport during COVID, but now they're going to use international groups to try and force that on us from outside of our borders. We're not going to let that stand. I am telling you right now we're going to fight this to the end. We're going to put those people behind bars that have been lying this whole time to us. But we need your help now.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I am serious. This is what it's going to take. And if it's all that you do, if you just go ahead and take the blue pill and every other part of your life, life and want to walk around like everything's okay, at least be donating to the high wire and I can so that you can say to yourself, at least I'm doing something. And it's a big something because we have an amazing team that's working for you. So I'm going to ask you right now, become a recurring donor. At the top of the page of both of our websites, you'll find the donate button. Click on donate now and become a recurring donor. I know so many of you, millions of you are sitting there watching.
Starting point is 00:54:21 You love the show. Imagine if you get a little bit. us $22 for 2020 what we could achieve. We can stop this thing. Text the word donate to 72022. We're going to make it easy for you. You really can't part with that cup of coffee, maybe $5 a month for some of you that just want to dip your toes into trying to make a difference in the world. And for those of you that can do more, and so many of you are, I want to thank you for those of you that involved. But this is it. This isn't going away. They are bringing technologies to literally put us in prison. Are we going to live in prison so that we can have a healthier environment?
Starting point is 00:55:02 Is that what this is about? Track how much meat we're eating, whether or not our car is burning fuel. You better have a battery-driven car that we can turn off or not allow you to charge one. We decide is the government controlling you? And remember in that Orwellian piece that showed the trailer, it said, You are property of the government. Folks, I've been saying that the whole time. You can be injected with a product that you do not like and do not want.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Beyond your control, you no longer are a free citizen anywhere in this world. You have just become a person with the same rights as a farm animal. You are now proper to the U.S. government. The government can inject your child with something you have no control over, which they are attempting to do in multiple states across this country. Then your child is owned by the government. They're in control of your child, not you. All of this needs to change.
Starting point is 00:55:54 and we are at the forefront of making that happen. Please help us in this continued mission. All right. Speaking of being outspoken, of fighting for the truth, there are so many doctors that rose up. In fact, I remember at one of the rallies in Washington, D.C., Dr. Orso said, we are 17,000 doctors standing up for medical freedom, medical truth. Well, what happens if you start taking the license of those doctors,
Starting point is 00:56:24 away. They can't say that there's 17,000 doctors anymore. Now there's just regular people stripped of their credentials for doing what? Telling the truth. That's what laws are being passed in California and around this country. It's all part of what needs to stop. And there's a lot of doctors that are talking about how dangerous this is, not only for them but for you. The government has gotten things wrong repeatedly during the pandemic. And it's only because doctors and others who have called this out and said look evidence doesn't say this that people that they've changed their course if you practice in any way or speak in any way it's contrary to this on a public venue on social media with your patients in private you are at risk of losing
Starting point is 00:57:11 your license we can go back to many issues 1% mortality closing schools is healthy for our children wearing masks helps prevent the dissemination. Originally when the vaccine was first introduced, Anthony Fauci and even President Biden told us that it would prevent the infection of COVID-19. We've now have learned that it doesn't prevent infection or transmission. A physician with a gag order is not a physician you can trust. Patients want to know that if they ask their doctor a question,
Starting point is 00:57:45 including the question about COVID, they'll get an honest opinion from the physician. It will be absolutely chilling on the practice of medicine. It will become almost impossible to practice medicine the way we are trained to, which is to use our objective reasoning, to share ideas with our patients, and to come up with the best possible recommendation for that particular patient, for that particular circumstance. The truth comes from people honestly engaging with the data. Censorship kills that. Censorship kills science. I think censorship actually killed people during this pandemic. It's arguably one of the most dangerous times to be a good doctor, meaning a doctor that does their own investigation and shares with their patients what they're finding in their own research.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Exactly what we expect from our doctors. Now they are being silenced and censored and coming under threat. Well, amongst those doctors that have appeared on the highwire and expressed their concerns with the vaccine, their discussions on COVID, the best of the brightest, have been. been here, but among them. And at the Pratt's, the top of this sphere is Dr. Peter McCullough, one of the most published doctors and scientists in the world. I am so honored to be joined by him right now, Dr. McCullough. Thanks for having me. Thanks for coming here. This climate now, under the circumstances that are just being discussed by all of these great doctors here in America where we have free speech. We may be on alternate media trying to say, hey, folks, we have a problem
Starting point is 00:59:17 here, you're about to lose the doctor-patient relationship. You're about to lose any focus from your doctor discussing issues with you and their own personal take on things. You know, am I overstating it that this may be one of the most dangerous times to be a doctor? I think we're at a dramatic inflection point in America. That montage was incredible. Yeah. From practicing doctors like Dr. Barkie, a family physician, to Dr. J. Batachara, professor of medicine at Stanford. Yeah. All telling America that we've had a deep, pervasive change in the tenor of medical discourse, scientific discourse. America knows me.
Starting point is 00:59:59 I testified in front of the Congressional Oversight Panel in 2007. It's on C-SPAN for hours. I've been a president of a major medical society. 650 peer-reviewed publications at the site of the National Library of Medicine. I have 60 on COVID-19. And from the very beginning, before the vaccines, I felt a sense of strain, I felt a sense of discomfort, and then frankly it evolved into gag orders, threats,
Starting point is 01:00:26 loss of employment, lawsuits. That's kind of before the vaccines. Now the vaccines come in, people wanna know what in the world is going on, what's changed, and this is worldwide, it's worldwide, what's changed in the world all at the same time, all working to suppress the free interchange of information, around SARS-CoV-2, COVID-19, and the vaccines.
Starting point is 01:00:50 What is so shocking about this moment is we are now, you know, we are not blind any longer. The argument can't be with the CDC, the NIH, and Health and Human Services that we just didn't know better. And I saw a meme that says, boy, we went from trust the science to we didn't know what we were talking about really quickly. But in this moment right now, doctors are under threat. In California law just passed, if you were a doctor. doctor that spoke out against COVID, your license is going to be under review. At the same moment,
Starting point is 01:01:22 Tony Fauci is out saying, yeah, you know, the science changed on us. The vaccine didn't end up stopping transmission the way we had hoped. Wollenski's saying the same thing. You got Deborah Burks admitting, I always knew that it wasn't going to stop transmission. Perhaps we overplayed our hand. We were getting these concessions from the CDC and Health and Human Services saying, yeah, we might have overstated it. And yet, doctors like yourself, that didn't, overstate it actually I think were spot on and every day more more of what you said is proven to be true yet they are not relaxing on this idea that CDC good yes any doctor challenging them wrong even though we know they're the ones that are wrong
Starting point is 01:02:02 it's so true now California AB 20899 8 doesn't go into law until January 1st Dr. Barkey and Dr. Mark McDonald have launched a lawsuit to stop that you saw that the vignette from Aaron Kariotti, a former professor of medicine and ethics, psychiatry at UC Davis, saying, listen, patients go to doctors for a medical opinion. Sometimes they go to other doctors for second opinions,
Starting point is 01:02:27 but they never go to doctors under gag orders to get a government narrative. The California Medical Board says that the statements need to be consensus-driven. Patients don't go to doctors for consensus-driven statements, and I can just tell you on COVID-19, it's so complex.
Starting point is 01:02:43 This illness, of which I've dedicated, the last years of my life too. I have essentially done a fellowship in COVID-19. It's so complex. The virus has mutated to such a great degree. We've had the introduction of all different types of biotechnologies, you know, old medicines, new medicines, that for each patient, I completely grew at Dr. Carriotti. Each patient is unique based on their background conditions. Their diagnosis, their prognosis, and their management needs to be stylized cannot be dictated in a government narrative. And here's what's amazing about it.
Starting point is 01:03:15 They speak about misinformation as though there's one piece of information that is totally made up in a figment of somebody's imagination, and then there's the science. What you have brought to this conversation is that we have to at least admit that there are two arguing schools of science right now. There is not a religious belief in science. There is the science coming from the CDC that is apparently funded in many ways, and we're going to get into what's really going on with the pharmaceutical industry. but there are universities. There are science studies being done on myocarditis, heart issues, blood clotting, thrombocytopinia, cancer. I mean, the list is incredible of, you know, and then we can go in the masking and the lockdowns. I mean, study after study showing that there is real proof.
Starting point is 01:04:02 The masks don't do anything. Lockdowns are doing anything. The vaccines are dangerous in many different ways. Definitely specific populations. We can argue how many people will be injured, but you cannot say that there's no science on the other side. And that would be the only way you could even maybe get away with saying you're going to censor this conversation because there's a bunch of crazy people that have no evidence. And then there's us. It's just not the case. Let me tell you, I'm in my fourth decade of medical practice now.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I'm the most published person in my field in the world and history prior to COVID studying heart and kidney disease. The word misinformation has never appeared in any paper that I have written. It's never appeared in any textbook I have studied. come up on a board question and let me tell you what I researched this misinformation appeared in the english literature around 1500 it was extensively used during nazi germany and other propaganda campaigns and in 2018 Washington post said misinformation was word of the year because it was used in partisan politics now enter COVID-19 and misinformation now is the tool yeah that government authorities medical boards, other entities that really have a stakeholder position in the vaccine agenda,
Starting point is 01:05:20 they're using the word misinformation as a propaganda tool, meaning if they hold information, everybody else holds misinformation. And you're right, in the world of science and medical care, clinical care, there are only scientific data and observations which change over time, and there's always two or more interpretive points of view. Doctors spend endless hours and weekends going to meetings. Why? To discuss data. We review data together and we always have an interpretive points of view. But it's exchanging those viewpoints that allows the science to progress.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And what you saw in that vignette is, you know, very esteemed doctors saying, listen, we're afraid the field is actually not advancing because there is now a complete inhibition of scientific discourse. Absolutely. Let's get into some of that discourse. And I want to really get into your area of expertise. We've talked a lot about this on the high wire, and we keep seeing more and more studies, but no one has looked closer at the heart issues, the myocarditis. To me, in many ways, there are so many people, and we get distracted by all the different things
Starting point is 01:06:26 that people are writing about this vaccine. You know, what's in it, and, you know, what's it being used for? But you don't have to go any further than heart issues to me. To me, if this causes myocarditis in children, and we have talked about the CDC studies going back out of Israel, incredible rises in myocarditis in small test groups that the CDC knew about. So where is the science at now? You've been watching this. Is there anything you want to correct as we get more and more understanding of this?
Starting point is 01:06:57 Because you've been really strong, you've been reading us everything. Where are we at? I want to fill in on this because this is actually quite a story. in medical history. If we go back to 1992, Ralph Barrack, at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, and his team, arguably he's the most knowledgeable person in his team on coronaviruses,
Starting point is 01:07:17 was studying beta coronaviruses in rabbits. And he could find certain strains of coronavirus in rabbits and later on in monkeys, where the virus itself clearly could damage the heart. I have to give the animals a lot of it. It's not the same as a human getting a coronavirus cold. But the point is, They were cardiotropic and cardiotoxic, 1992.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Okay. Okay. Then COVID-19 hits, and there is a narrative that COVID respiratory illness could cause myocarditis. And it's interesting how this messaged out. It messaged out to such a degree that in the NCAA, the Big Ten League, that would be University of Michigan and others, I'm a Michigan graduate and graduate school, they hold a COVID-19 respiratory illness, myocarditis screening program.
Starting point is 01:08:04 So they have 9,600 athletes in that year, and they had 30% of them get COVID. They offered screening. 1,500 went forward for screening. They were able to find probably about half a dozen cases where there was an elevation in troponin, but it wasn't concordant with cardiac MRI findings. They found about three dozen cardiac MRI findings, none of which were clear-cut myocarditis. They ultimately settled on an idea that it's half a dozen to a dozen possible myocarditis, or subclinical myocarditis, but no hospitalizations or deaths.
Starting point is 01:08:38 And out of how many again? 9,600 total in the league, 1,500 screened. And the paper appeared by Daniels and colleagues in Jama. So because of that, the league says, well, listen, it's just not a big risk here. We did our due diligence. They dropped the program. Okay, so they stopped checking from home levels. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Now, another paper appears by Joy and colleagues in, in Journal of American College of Cardiology, a very good journal. where they prospectively take community patients with COVID, and they do every cardiac scan possible. They measure cardiac troponin. I should set this for the group. Cardiac troponin is a blood test. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:18 That the troponin is the most abundant protein in the heart. Their tromponin is the little ball that sits between actin and myosin, and it actually allows the ratchet function to come up and the machinery of the heart to contract and relax. That's troponin. Okay. So draponin is like a ball. during the setting of ischemia or injury, it flies off, it goes into the cytosol,
Starting point is 01:09:38 and rapidly goes into the serum in blood, and that's actually measurable. So it sort of gets cast off. Right. But it is, but it is the basis of the definition of myocardial infarction. We've relied on it now for two decades, and when there's a characteristic rise and fall in cardiac tropon and another consistent feature like chest pain, EKG changes, or imaging changes, this is before COVID. We would diagnose a heart attack, a myocardial infarction.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Now, myocarditis is not a traditional myocardial function because the blood vessels to the heart are open, but the heart's being directly damaged. So troponin has been used with supportive information like EKG or imaging to diagnose myocarditis. And so Barrett knew this back with coronaviruses in 1992 going forward. And what's interesting, too, because we bring up these names, Ralph Barak. This is the gain of function researcher, or at least that we think is in the middle of this being funded by NIH. But part of it, he's really, he's got a thing for coronaviruses. It's his specialty. He's the one saying, you know, this could be a bioweapons somewhere in the future.
Starting point is 01:10:42 But in this investigation of his, he's saying some of these coronaviruses have art issues in the animals I'm studied. And he proved it. And he proved it. So he proved it. So, but there was enough of a hint that there could be a cardiac problem with COVID. That in fact, that the athletes are doing it. And they weren't the only ones. There were other screen.
Starting point is 01:11:01 U.S. military had a screening program. So many, because of COVID, it could cause myocarditis. They don't see much there. Military drops their program. The Big Ten drops their program. And this paper by Joy and colleagues, prospective, they measure troponite baseline. They measure it afterwards. They do every test at all in community COVID, not military, not athletes, people like you and me, they don't find any.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Okay. They don't find any. So then we can sort of get from that that this form of coronavirus and the amount we are inhaling and an infection, does not seem to be causing the heart issue that Barrick saw in his animal. Right. And one more piece of data, two Valley and colleagues from Israel, studies hundreds of thousands of Israelis before the vaccines with COVID-19 and has a survival curve where they follow people over time. The rate of myocarditis and those getting COVID is no different than the background rate
Starting point is 01:11:54 of people who didn't get COVID because you can get it from a parvo virus, an adenovirus, it can be idiopathic. So the point is, conclusion before the vaccines, COVID-19 respiratory illness for humans is a negligible risk for myocarditis. So we're there. Now the vaccines start. Yep. So the vaccines are administered and our inference is that the human body gets a far deeper and more systemic
Starting point is 01:12:19 exposure to the spike protein. These are the spines on the ball of the virus. They cause myocarditis. There was a paper by Volio and colleagues from Italy showing for sure the spike protein damages the heart. Then it advanced Beaumeyer and colleagues, did biopsies of young people presenting myocarditis, finds the spike protein in the heart muscle. So, I mean, it's there at the conclusion.
Starting point is 01:12:42 We have the delivery mechanism. If we're seeing an issue, we can see how it would be delivered. It's right there. It's right there in the heart causing damage. The FDA weighs in in June of 2021 and says, yeah, it looks like the vaccines cause malacharditis. They reviewed what they had in the CDC had and said, okay, yeah, it causes myocarditis. Then the whole thing starts to explode. So what we see over the next year is,
Starting point is 01:13:07 Choi, I believe, was, No, Verma was the first Washington University in St. Louis. They report a fatal case. Someone gets myocarditis and they die. Then Choi in Korea, young man, fatal case. Gill, this was the most dramatic. And these were all after vaccination. These are after vaccination.
Starting point is 01:13:23 COVID not implicated in these. Then Gil reports, this is that tragic, 16 and 17-year-old boys found dead at home by their parents on days three and four after the second shot of Pfizer. And the parents, you know, do the right thing. They get an autopsy. The coroner looks at this. He calls in pathologists from Michigan and from New Jersey, Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:13:45 They look at all the data. They agree the Pfizer vaccine is the proximate cause of death in these boys. But important because there was no premonitory symptoms, no chance for CPR. The boys didn't alert their parents that anything was wrong. So the GILP paper is important. And then we have a paper that comes in from Patone and colleagues, UK, where now they have 100 fatal cases, 100, not autopsy proven, but the number one thing they put in the, and the best certificate there was vaccine-induced myocarditis, 100 cases in circulation.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Our best cardiology journal, our best. Wow. Half of the cases are with Pfizer-Maderna, but half are with AstraZeneca, which they use of it. So it can happen with adenoviral. the spike protein mechanism. So for people that may be watched for the first time MRI technology in the Pfizer and the virus, adding a viral vaccine
Starting point is 01:14:38 vector in AstraZeneca, meaning they're using a monkey virus that's not supposed to affect human beings sort of as a delivery system for a DNA code that goes to the cell. Right. And then finally, this just popped Kim and colleagues from Korea. Koreans are doing a great job, by the way, on this topic. The first Novavax induced myocarditis. Novavax, recall, is no
Starting point is 01:14:59 genetics here. That's just five micrograms of the purified woo hand wild type spike protein. And in fact, a young person gets myocarditis. Another teaching point in these cases for the doctors, nurses listening, the treatment here is cortical steroids, actually giving steroids, giving chalchicine. The myocarditis is almost always the outer part of the heart muscle and involving the lining around the heart, the paracardium. So the term myoparicarditis is probably a better term to use. A better term to use. And so, So it resolves in that case with cortical steroids and the use of colchicine anti-inflammatory, which is our standard for paracarditis, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs like naproxin
Starting point is 01:15:40 or ibuprofen for pain control. If they develop signs and symptoms of heart failure, which some do, we actually have to use drugs called reen and antietensin system inhibitors and beta blockers. There was a vignette that Joe Rogan reviewed with me when I went on his show of a young college student at Northwestern University, her first name was Simone, where she gets Moderna a few months later at myocarditis and she goes all the way to heart transplant at Northwestern. She dies afterwards of a complication. That was a clear-cut case. And all that is in the backdrop. And so when the FISA-Moderna go for a full FDA approval, they get from the FDA a biological
Starting point is 01:16:21 licensing agreement letter, a BLA letter, which is not a full approval. It says you could be approved if you commit to doing these things. And in both letters it says you must study myocarditis with your vaccines. And you must do what's called prospective cohort studies, which is measure everything at baseline, then give the vaccine, and then measure everything afterwards. Don't wait for it to develop and then try to figure it out later on. Do it prospective cohort study and nothing happens. So the companies don't do anything. Meaning they didn't do the study. They didn't do this. Well, they didn't do the studies. There was no announcement that they were commissioning. Typically this would go to Duke,
Starting point is 01:16:56 or the Brigham or Mayo Clinic, and they would just do a really high-quality prospective corse study, right? Because everyone's taking the vaccines. All the young people are encouraged to take the vaccines. So what happens? So Mansugian and colleagues from Thailand do the first prospective cohort study,
Starting point is 01:17:11 and Musukian has a total of 301 children, age 13 to 18, and they get all the baseline, troponant, EKG, and echo at baseline. This is the ultrasound of the heart. Yep. Then they get the second dose of five. Then they get everything repeated and here's the bombshell all those true they look in them do it all again they come up with a rate of myocarditis of 2.3%
Starting point is 01:17:35 Previous the FDA had estimated 62 cases to per million there were data from Tracy Hogue UC Davis said 250 per million and then Kaiser Permanente had a estimate of 537 per million this blows that out of the water this is 23,500 100 cases per million, according to Mansugian. And of those, seven kids had myocarditis that was serious. Two kids hospitalized. They confirmed it by MRI. They used the latest troponin assay, highest quality EKG and MRI tech.
Starting point is 01:18:08 That was a wonderful paper, and that's followed on the last few weeks by a study done from a very renowned cardiologist, Christian Mueller in Basel, Switzerland. I personally know him. He's a friend of mine. He studies 77 health care workers. gets troponin before and after the third shot. And now it doesn't get EKGs and echoes and all the MRI, but what does he find?
Starting point is 01:18:31 He finds the rate of a significant, a characteristic rise of a troponin, which is a rise and then a fall over four days as characteristic for cardiac injury in 2.8% of individuals, 2.8. So, Mansookin 2.3, Mueller, 2.8, is presented at the European Society of Cardiology, which is the biggest cardiology meeting in the world, and now days later, Pfizer-Maderna announced they're going to start their cardiac studies for myocarditis.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Unbelievable. And that is so egregious when you're now telling me they were told they were supposed to be doing that very early on that they wouldn't get approval if they didn't do it. They didn't do it. And I fault the FDA before I even fault Moderna or Pfizer. The regulatory agency, this is your job. Your job is to enforce and make sure the proper studies are being done. And I always wonder as I sit here, Peter, whether 2.3% sounds like enough to people.
Starting point is 01:19:29 So here's what I would say to somebody. Here's it is you're at a school function for your child. There's 100 kids in the class and they have 100 cupcakes out. Two and a half of these are going to lead to a heart condition. You know, do you just say, hey, go ahead. We'll take that risk with our kid to eat any cupcake you want because that's what we're talking about. We're not talking a risk out of a million anymore or 100,000, which is what we're told. What I find fascinating, and we've covered a little bit of this trial, is it's only 301 kids.
Starting point is 01:19:59 If injury, we are always told vaccine injury, we've been told this for century now, but certainly decades is it's a one in a million. It's a one in a million. If it's one in a million, 300 should not be enough to even see your problem. I mean, that study, you would get lucky if you saw one case, and instead you're saying they have seven cases out of 300. That is so horrifying. In the face of what we've been told about the safety record of vaccines,
Starting point is 01:20:26 you would think this program would be stopped in its tracks. Well, it should have been stopped. I've testified in the U.S. Senate, twice now, multiple states Senate. I said a single case of fatal vaccine-induced mitochonditis should have shut the program down. For sure, should have changed the consent form. I've recently checked the consent form, which nowadays the consent just refers people to an FAQ. I read the FAQ. nowhere on it does it say fatal vaccine-induced myocarditis.
Starting point is 01:20:55 It's complete. It's now a known. It's an absolutely known and recognized. Now think about this. Coronavirus since the 1990s themselves, it was known they could cause cardiac injury. It was enough to stimulate the military and college football to screen for COVID. Then the vaccines come and the vaccine manufacturers do not measure Chaponin during the registrational trials. when they knew this rich history
Starting point is 01:21:20 that this was going to cause heart damage. In fact, they knew it so much that COVID-19 could cause heart damage. Why wouldn't the vaccines with the spike protein cause heart damage? And they are willfully blind to any cardiac toxicity of the vaccines, and we are deep in trouble now because there is a clear recognition that this malacharditis, and some people can lead to a scar. The scar is a small area of like a scar you see on your skin,
Starting point is 01:21:46 but the electricity goes down, and when it goes through the scar, it depolarizes slowly, then it loops up, and it forms reentry. And when reentry occurs during a normal cardiac depolarization, that's the nitis for ventricular tachycardia or VT, and that isn't a heart rhythm. In me or you, that can be well over 200 beats a minute, it starts to make us dizzy, and if we don't do something, it degenerates to ventricular fibrillation, and then we're gone, we're on the floor, and CPR is started, and if you've seen any of these montages of these athletes, When this happens, they go down like a rock.
Starting point is 01:22:20 They can't even hold out their hands to protect themselves. We're just absolutely slamming to the floor. We have seen montage after montage of people having sudden cardiac death. It's called Sudden Adult Death Syndrome. Yeah, that's crazy. And, you know, myself and Assamahotra, prominent cardiologist in the UK, have come up with the same conclusion that when we see a young person now who's previously healthy, no antecedent illness, and they suddenly die.
Starting point is 01:22:45 and the two patterns are dying in sleep, typically from 3 a.m. to 6 a.m. Or dying during sports. By the way, both of those time periods, there's a rise in noraphenephyran, epinephrine, which is probably an internal trigger for this. And there's no suicide, there's no drug overdose, there's no motor vehicle accident. It is the COVID-19 vaccine and subclinical myocarditis, like in the Gill paper, until the parents come out or the family comes out and they tell us otherwise. And the family can clear this up, Del.
Starting point is 01:23:14 If they come out and say, listen, they didn't take the vaccine, okay, we'll lay down our concern. But let's be conservative and assume right now that these are fatal vaccine-induced macroditis cases. Here's what I've spoken about for years all through COVID we discussed, but has, you know how you just keep saying things enough times, but something occurs you that's so simple and so horrifying. And this is it when I look at these trials. You have design trials. You have tested products. You know what this is all about. I feel like every time we're seeing something now in population, a population issue pops up.
Starting point is 01:23:48 But myocardis, we go back, well, what did they see in the trials? And you find out that they literally built a wall to make sure that they didn't allow anyone to investigate that particular issue. Almost like they expected they would have that issue if they looked for it and didn't want to reveal it. And I want to say this, I want to really put this through to people because it's sinister. I'm not going to go as far as why they're doing it, but what has happened here? We have President Biden telling, well, first Donald Trump, Donald Trump saying I'm going to sink more money into the warp speed of this vaccine than any vaccine or technology in the history of medicine. More money. We are opening the floodgates to Moderna and Pfizer and anyone that wants
Starting point is 01:24:34 to be a part of this competition. You now have money coming out every, you know, doorway and entryway there is. We are being told we will spend, and that's just America. There's France and Germany, everyone's pouring money into these few companies. They do trials of tens of thousands of people. And one of the issues we know from the beginning, from animal trials with Barrick, even into the very first, you know, approaches of this vaccine, myocides is popping up. We see it with AstraZeneca. We got some sort of blood clodding issue. All of this is known, as you're saying. And here's what's so shocking to me. And I said this on the show. Hit me the other day. We are living in a country throughout this lock, locking us down, destroying our jobs. My friends, I come from Hollywood,
Starting point is 01:25:18 they can't get onto a film set without being PCR-dressed every single day. Every single day, they have to take a test. There are elementary schools in this country that we're testing some of them every day, but at least once a week on Monday, you're getting the swab rammed up your nose. You can't get into your preschool without getting tested. Then we go and look at these trials where we are testing a brand new MRI technology, never been injected into a human being before, could alter DNA, RNA. We don't know. We don't know how this is going to work. And the one thing a vaccine is supposed to do is get us out of this pandemic, which means it's going to stop transmission. The only way to figure out if it stops transmission, we're being told the biggest
Starting point is 01:26:00 carrier, the biggest issue is an asymptomatic carrier, meaning someone that has it but doesn't know they have it and they're spreading it. That's why we're all locked down and masked up and then why we're PCR testing every day. And it occurs to me, the only place in this country where you were safe from daily or weekly PCR testing, everyone in a job, in a school, they're being subjected to it. But the only place you can be sure you don't have to worry about a PCR test is in the freaking trials of the vaccine itself. The one place we need to know can it stop transmission is the only place they're walking in and out. They're doing whatever they want. they're hugging each other. We don't care. We're not testing you. And we're not testing for
Starting point is 01:26:42 myocarditis. We're not testing troponin levels. We know we have potential heart issues. Why are we sticking these people in a room? Why are they in the clinical trial? Forty-five thousand of them for the one and 30,000 the other. The billions of dollars, isn't that what a trial is supposed to be doing? I mean, it just defies reason to the point of it being purposely criminal. Well, you know, it's an interesting option. I've never heard someone to put it together. that way, but you make perfect sense that the clinical trial is not only for efficacy, but it's for safety and very importantly risk mitigation. No new product is ever going to be free of problems and it's never going to be applied to everybody. So we always have to figure out
Starting point is 01:27:23 who is it going to cause problems for. What I'm making a case for, there was 20 years of data about coronaviruses, spike protein, myocarditis. There was enough to have everybody get worried with COVID. for sure they should have measured troponin with the before and after each injection should have been cardiac safety built in for sure we should have done things transmission actually would have been tested with what's called challenge studies
Starting point is 01:27:48 and there was a discussion Oxford discussed this originally that is taking somebody who's vaccinated and just put them face to face with someone with COVID now that would have been a challenge study no one had the guts to do this but everything we've learned about the vaccine so at least PCR test once a week right well listen to this
Starting point is 01:28:05 We should have known what we call pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics. So we learn this after the vaccines are released. And everything we've learned gives everybody a sense of nausea. Let me feel you with some of these citations. Fertikin colleagues figures out how to measure the message of RNA. It goes up in the bloodstream and stays up for two weeks. That's when they stopped. We don't know when it goes down.
Starting point is 01:28:31 But it's circulatory for two weeks. Foreign messenger RNA in the body. presumably on lipid nanoparticles are now in exosomes. Another piece of information. That's problematic because we're told it's just located in the arm. It's short-lived and it disappears, dissipates. Right. The body's getting the body's kicking and this is over.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Right. It's running all through your body. It's running through your body at least two weeks. Yeah. They, Roltkin, Stanford, they're getting lymph node biopsies for other reasons, but they learn how to sustain for the messenger RNA. It's in lymph nodes for two months. Now JAMA, Hannah and colleagues, breast milk.
Starting point is 01:29:06 It's found messenger RNA in breast milk. And that broke, and someone pulled a Reuters press release a year earlier, says, oh, don't worry, it doesn't come out in breast milk. And there it is in breast milk. So if it's circulatory in blood and it's in breast milk, and even in the Hannah paper, they simply say, listen, it's everywhere. It's in oral secretions. It's in eugenal secretions.
Starting point is 01:29:29 It's in sweat. It's in breast milk. We don't know when this clears out of the body. Remember the genetics are the code to produce the spike protein. The person who knows the most about the spike protein and where it is in the body and how long it lasts is Bruce Patterson at InSelt-DX, former pathologist at Northwestern in Stanford. Bruce has reviewed the data, published the best he can. As far as he can tell, it doesn't get out of the body.
Starting point is 01:29:53 The spike protein doesn't. We're still waiting for someone to take a vaccine and be shown to be clear of messenger RNA and clear of spike protein so far that that has not been demonstrated in the scientific literature. I think about, you know, we've had, I've had several interviews with Dr. Robert Malone, who's involved in inventing this technology for vaccines. One of the things, and it speaks to your point. One of the things he said to me is that when he first said, look, this is what, his work starts as trying to use MRNA technology to do a gene insertion, to fix issues like
Starting point is 01:30:27 cancer in the future by sending an MRI in that can insert. insert itself and somehow like get in there and fix a DNA issue. He realizes through years of this that it's going nowhere because the immune system's attacking that MRI before it can really find purchase, the seed binds purchase where it wants to. But he says, this is what he said to me. Then it hit me, you know, it's not going to work for gene therapy, but it'd be great as a vaccine.
Starting point is 01:30:52 The reason being that it will, you know, it'll get in there. It'll be there just long enough to stimulate the immune system to start making antibodies, but it won't stay in circulation, which could lead to autoimmune disease and all sorts of other issues, which is always the big concern with vaccines. He's like, this would be a perfect vaccine because it'll be there, very short-lived. You know, the immune system is really good at killing it. We know it is, and then boom, you've got your antibodies, you're moving on. What he said to me was so shocking is that they took away the whole reason he thought it was a good idea,
Starting point is 01:31:22 which was they inserted this uridine. They basically shifted the structure of the DNA of this spike. protein, which is the bioweapon of the virus we're talking about, they make it so that it can persist. So instead of being able to be killed by the immune system, it's putting the immune system asleep, it's able to hang out. And as you're saying now, this thing, we don't know if it ever dies. It's going all over the place. It's not going away. Right. Right. So messenger RNA has ribonucleic acids and it has a three prime and five prime cap. The innovation was to develop these nucleoside analog caps which are undigestable. Now, normally your body is making
Starting point is 01:32:00 messenger RNA all the time. You have RNA aces that quickly break them down. There is a product, by the way, that I can use in cardiology. It's called inclinzoran. Inclinzeran is a small interfering RNA that interferes for the production of PCSK9, an important regulatory protein that we deal in lipid metabolism. Now, the pharmacokinetics of that has been studied by the company, which took years to develop it. And that, rises in the bloodstream and it goes down in a day because it doesn't have those synthetic analog caps and the body clears it. With the vaccines, they have these synthetic analog caps and this deep history of messenger RNA really goes back to the military. Our DARPA, which is
Starting point is 01:32:43 the military research division, has had a program. It's called the Protect Adept P3 program, the pandemic planning prevention program since 2012. And they have said on the, their website that they plan to basically handle pandemics in 60 days using messenger RNA technology. That's the U.S. military in 2012 working with vaccine consultants and others. So this wasn't Operation Warp Speed. This wasn't Pfizer-Modernia. They're kind of- This is the endgame for a military operation that's been going on since 2012?
Starting point is 01:33:17 It's military conceived. Now others are involved for sure. Now we know Moderna wrote the patent with the National Institutes of Health. and Stefan Bainzel, who was the CEO of BioMirieu, the French company, they built the biosecurity annex level four security in Wuhan. Now, Bainzell does this in 2011. Then he changes companies and he joins Moderna. So a CEO of a huge company joins a very small company in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
Starting point is 01:33:51 It's in our book, Courage to Face COVID-19. We capture all this history. By the way, here we go. just one, if you haven't read this book, you better go out, copies running off the shelves everywhere. It really is. What I love about this is, you've got John Leake as your partner on this. We had both
Starting point is 01:34:05 you want to discuss this book. Crime writer, he really deals with this as though you're reading a crime novel, which is exactly what this is. It's a page turner. But the head scratcher is why would now billionaires Stefan Beenzel leave this, you know, wonderful French company where he's doing all this
Starting point is 01:34:21 great stuff and he joins the tiny company, Moderna and they start working on the patent with the NIH for the Moderna patent. Note that Moderna is now suing Pfizer and you're right. Something is very unique about this messenger and A, when you think about it, segments of it probably had to be humanized so the body would read it and wouldn't reject it. This is very important. And then a paper just came out from Nunes Castilla, very interesting paper, studying the spike protein, the product of the genetics.
Starting point is 01:34:52 And what they showed is probably three dozen areas of humanization, meaning the spike protein has homology to human proteins itself. And what Nunes Castellis is saying is that, listen, this is the setup for autoimmunity. It was used to make the body accept it probably and read it and make the spike protein, you know, the genetics at least manageable. But now this chronic exposure, the fact that human bodies are being exposed, day by day to a foreign protein that looks like it doesn't even. For people that may be, let me try and simplify it and see if I got this close,
Starting point is 01:35:29 which is what you're saying is there are elements of this now that genetically will look like your own body, could look like the myelin sheath, for instance. And so if that's the case, if it ends up looking like a protein or body or something in the body, then your immune system in creating the ability to fight this spike protein will say, oh, there's spike protein there. That's my body. That's not the spike protein. That's the thing that looks like the spike protein, but it's actually part of my body.
Starting point is 01:35:56 It starts attacking. And now that immune system attack upon your own body is the definition of autoimmune. Yeah, I think you have it. And I think specifically since the genetics install in somatic cells, meaning they're not just in immune cells, but they're in heart muscle cells, they're in the support cells in the brain. The cells themselves express spike protein on the surface, and then the body says, wait a minute, that's not supposed to be there.
Starting point is 01:36:18 I'm going to attack you. So I've interviewed Dr. Polykretis from Italy who has the belief that every cell that expresses spike protein is under attack from another cell. It's just, it's a cellular war going on introduced by these vaccines. This has always been to me, and I've described, I'm a laborist, no medical background whatsoever. I just, let's be reasonable here. What this vaccine does is it basically, I say, is like a recipe or a code that is sent
Starting point is 01:36:46 inside my own cells and that it teaches my cell. how to make the spike protein, the most dangerous part of the virus. Then it starts making the spike protein, put it on the outside of the cell, and then all of a sudden my immune system is going, oh my God, I'm under attack. Not by something that I just breathed through my nose, not by something I just got in my lungs
Starting point is 01:37:03 and, you know, is where I have an alarm system for this. Suddenly it's appearing and it's being created by my own cells. My own cells are now the enemy that my immune system is saying, oh my God, these cells are producing a viral, you know, bio weapon that could kill me, And so it literally sees your own cells producing it as the enemy. How does that not lead to autoimmune disease? I mean, to me, I'm glad there's scientists backing up,
Starting point is 01:37:30 but as a late person, it seemed like that would be the only route. I mean, it's just crazy. You know, there are still announcements that we hear from biotech companies and the manufacturers that we know saying that this is just the beginning. There's going to be messenger RNA for influenza, for a respiratory syncytial virus, that we're going to install the genetic code for many pathogens, that we're going to express many pathogens,
Starting point is 01:37:56 and this is going to be the basis of our new immune program. It's horrifying. Based on the great science that we already did, that showed how safe this is. I mean, we jumped out of the science, got an EUA. We erased the placebo group as soon as we had an EUA because, God forbid, we have a placebo group that continues on, and those that are being injured are not getting the time of day from Moderna or Pfizer.
Starting point is 01:38:20 They're being ignored and lied about to the FDA. So all of it's a giant cover-up. And now based on this terrible science that is not being done, not testing turponent, not even doing a PCR test while you're in the trials while the rest of the world's having me PCR test to walk in a door. And then you come out of it saying, oh, no, it was a success. We're going to bring flu shots and chickenpox shots and all sorts of small and large issues using MRNA technology. We could go on and on about all that you've worked on on the issues of the vaccine. I want to ask you this, because as a doctor and a scientist,
Starting point is 01:38:53 and someone who I'm sure spent most of your career looking up to those at the CDC and the FDA that have, you know, provided all the science and evidence that back up all the great work you have done, when you looked at this, and while you made this book, this is probably better to even say the courage to face COVID-19, You're looking at sort of this almost criminal enterprises taking place. How would you describe the regulatory agencies now? Are they protecting us? Are they infiltrated? Where are the red flags?
Starting point is 01:39:23 Because I feel like this is our biggest issue. I never believe that industries are looking out for my best good. They're trying to make a dollar. I don't care. BP spills oil in the ocean. It's not lost on me. The first thing they're going to do is try and hide it. It wasn't me. I didn't take the cookie out of the cookie jar.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Companies lie. Industries that make billions of dollars, I think they're liars. tend to lie to cover their own butts. That's not who I have an issue with. They're acting normally. FDA, CDC, NIH, Health and Human Services, these agencies are there knowing this is a pack of liars that have lost billions and billions of dollars for death and injury from products they've made before. They're supposed to be protecting us. Robert Kennedy Jr. often saying they've been subsumed. They're infiltrated. What is your take? Well, you know, the people are calling this now the alphabet agencies, right? All these three-letter agencies, and they exist all over the world.
Starting point is 01:40:14 We could extend it to the MHRA in England, the TGA in Australia, EMA in Europe. One of the first concerns that I've already mentioned it is the NIH can co-write patents with companies. The National Institutes of Health should never be able to co-write a patent with Moderna on a vaccine and then turn around and have an NIH division director promote vaccines. Right then and there. That should... Tony Fauci. promoting a product saying it's safe when people inside that regulatory agency are going to make money from the product. Right. So whether it's him or the agency, it's just, it's a gross conflict of interest.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Yes. Let's take the FDA. Remember before COVID, emergency use authorization had been used for anthrax and a few other products. It's always military. Okay. It is a military-oriented regulation so the military can move quickly to protect our soldiers. Under emergency use authorization, it's not entirely clear if the FDA really has a regulatory role. Does the FDA really need to opine on something or do they not?
Starting point is 01:41:18 It's unclear. The FDA is showing no interest in even evaluating safety data on the EOA products to shut them down. When they were offered, they were offered by HHS Alex Azar, so the HHS has to sign off on something that there is an emergency, and they're offered by the Department of Defense. The FDA's behavior almost seems like choreography to me as opposed to tough regulatory behavior and to make matters worse. The named sponsors of the U.S. vaccine program
Starting point is 01:41:50 that are administering the program to America are the CDC and the FDA. The FDA should not be a named sponsor of the program. The FDA ought to be a separate watchdog advised by independent doctors. The FDA ought to be the first one to say there's a safety problem, we're going to shut it down. I think they're all now, there's an entanglement there
Starting point is 01:42:09 where no one at the FDA either wants to shut this down or even wants to look at safety, or they feel as if they're part of the spirit of the program to get a needle in every arm. You just presented a thought to me that I'm not putting it together. Let me pose a hypothesis that puts two thoughts together that you've just said. You just told me that the military, you know, was the one talking about MRNA technology as a pandemic response back in 2012.
Starting point is 01:42:39 2012, they're already looking at technology. I don't know. Obviously, they've done human trials we haven't heard about, I would guess, because I thought so far what we can see in our investigations is this technology really hasn't, as a vaccine, been testing human beings. That was what Warp Speed was all about. But if this was an approach by our military, you know, in a future pandemic. Now, put aside whether or not COVID was a test run or a real run or they really thought it was a viral.
Starting point is 01:43:06 That doesn't matter. The point being that up until now, you're saying EUAs have really only been used for the military. That it isn't an FDA function necessarily. It's just the military. We are rushing our guys into battle. Anthrax is a problem. We don't have time to see if this vaccine is safe or not. We're going to go ahead and take the risk.
Starting point is 01:43:24 We're going to move with it. And so now, COVID vaccine needs to be used in a pandemic model. exactly as described back in 2012. And the FDA, and this would, you know, in this hypothesis, it would answer something that's never made any sense, seems to just be like, what, it's like somebody like, just tell me what boxes to check,
Starting point is 01:43:44 I'm not reading it, and handing it over. And public statements really matter. Dr. Rubin, the editor of the Ring of Journal of Medicine, said at the pediatric meetings in the fall of 2021, we will never know if this is safe in children unless we just go and do it. it. So the behavior was not the FDA worried about safety. The FDA is actually just waving this on. It appears to be choreographer. You know, the current... But I've been looking at the FDA as the
Starting point is 01:44:11 head top of this thing, and you're saying no, military and governments the head of this. There's a chance all they are is just signing off on a dictate coming from above. Right. HHS in the military. That's really the organizational setup, health and human services in the military. So the FDA is, in a sense in a choreographic position to kind of approve or do something. You know, the current head of the FDA, someone who I know, Robert Kala from Duke, he is a hardcore clinical trialist, a drug safety hawk. He's made his living looking at safety of cardiovascular drugs. You know, he's the most silent person in America right now. You don't hear from him. The other observation is the CDC. The CDC really doesn't have any role in administering a vaccine program. I mean, it's the CDC,
Starting point is 01:44:59 Many of my fellow residents, I trained at University of Washington, they were CDC officers. The CDC, for instance, came in in Dallas and the Ebola outbreak, did a great job. Antivirus did a great job. What do they do? What does the CDC do? They do outbreak investigation. They do in vitro diagnostics. They actually help get a head start on assays and data analytics.
Starting point is 01:45:18 But the CDC has never come out and run a public program. And here we have the FDA and CDC, never having done that, if we ever were going to have a mass vaccination program, that's so amazing. important to America, we should have had a vaccine administration set up. And we should have had independent oversight, data safety monitoring board, monthly safety reviews, human ethics committees. We should have had the Cadillac program because there could have been risk mitigation. There could have been an opportunity to figure out who is getting myocarditis, who is dying with the vaccines. How can we change it?
Starting point is 01:45:48 Maybe the doses are too strong. Maybe there are certain risk groups. You know, there's a late breaking paper by Idawhit and colleagues from Thailand showing that a certain mutation called the SCN-4. a mutation in the heart, a sodium channel, that's the risk predictor for the sudden death in a small study that vaccine-induced myocarditis. So there's the innovation, right? So the idea is we could have actually managed this, but instead to put the CDC and FDA as the sponsors of the program, the FDA kind of hand-waving this along, having the roots
Starting point is 01:46:20 of messenger RNA be DARPA, this is all starting to come out now. So DARPA, here we are then back to military and government. is all entangled in this, which would explain why none of this is sort of making sense from a lay perspective. I'm not seeing the puzzle pieces coming together the wave I've ever seen them before. There are other interests involved here. And then there's the, what I would say, not only are these regulatory agencies invested in these products, which is really scary. By the way, we just sent Peter Marks, basically saying you need to take down your promotional videos of the COVID-Bact. because your own EUA says you're not allowed to make these statements without saying this product hasn't been properly safety tests
Starting point is 01:47:06 It's under you know so they're breaking their own rules and they're becoming propaganda machines Well, you could break your own rules if it's a military operation Interesting you know the state of Kansas just prohibited all COVID-19 vaccine commercials Because they're not safe and effective right it violates the truth and advertising act the Landman Act the US drug and cosmetic You know, pharmaceutical companies can't go on TV and just say, our product is safe and effective, use it, they have to give disclosures about what could happen. So you see things off the rails.
Starting point is 01:47:38 I mentioned the consent form not being updated. What consent form would not be updated with a new medical problem? The package inserts are always updated. So this has all the look and feel of a military operation when they say, listen, we don't have to follow these rules. The military doesn't follow typical rules because it's an emergency. Now, you know, in the last few days, the first thing Republicans do is they put forward a bill to end the COVID-19 emergency. And what's President Biden's response?
Starting point is 01:48:09 Vito. Want the emergency to go. This is a red flag. When our leaders push to extend emergencies that don't exist, I'll tell you, doctors are the ones who will make the call and whether or not there's a COVID emergency, when they do that, that's telling you, they're drunk. on power. They're drunk on power. We're under a national COVID emergency that's been extended, and we're under a national monkeypox emergency. I don't see anybody worried about monkey pox, let alone perceive an emergency. It's really incredible. I mean, there's so many things we can get into, but let's get into the personal effect this has had on you now, because you, as you
Starting point is 01:48:51 are right here, and you've said before, I make sure I list every author that's put out the studies. You are, I don't know how you're able to hold all this information in your brain. There's a reason why you've been more published than any heart doctor in the world. There's a reason, you know, why you've risen to the fame. You've made every hospital you've been at prior to COVID. You're the star of that establishment. And yet you, of all people, speaking the truth, not from the top of your head or making things up, citing the science as a heart specialist pointing out the myocredit,
Starting point is 01:49:27 pointing out the proponent issues, how you should be testing for it, you are now, I would say, of everybody, you're in real jeopardy of having your certifications removed. In fact, let me just go ahead and read the letter that you received just recently. This is sent to Dr. Peter McCullough. Dear Dr. McCullough, the American Board of Internal Medicine, ABIM, provided you notice by letter dated May 26, 2022, the notice that ABIM's credentials and certification committee, CECC, would consider whether to recommend a disciplinary sanction against you in light of public statements you made about the purported dangers of or lack of justification for COVID-19 vaccines. In light of all the evidence and circumstances, the CCC determined to recommend that your board certifications be revoked. And then I think it lists a whole bunch of specific statements and things that you have made throughout COVID and,
Starting point is 01:50:26 and you're having to address those specific statements. This is serious, and it's troubling that, as we've said, opening this up, it's not like there's one group that has a science, and then someone's just making something up. There is, at the very least, conflicting science, I would say the body of science is defending your perspective. I think what they're calling science is wishful thinking. It's a lot of red stamping, you know, or just pushing things.
Starting point is 01:50:56 through. We can't quite figure out. Maybe it's military. But the science being done by worldwide, universities, nations is all really showing what you've been saying, yet you're at risk of not being a heart doctor in the future. This is deeply troubling. I think anybody looking at this should view me as an example for them. We have a million doctors in the United States, half a million nurse practitioners and physician assistants. I have consistently been, as you know, I've testified twice in the U.S. Senate, multiple state senators. I am asked by request to answer questions under oath to do the best I can as a citizen.
Starting point is 01:51:37 I've shown up and I've done my job. You know, interesting talking point, Steve Bannon and former White House advisor, he's close to going to prison because he didn't show up in Congress and testify. I've showed up upon request and testified. I've done my job as a citizen. I've provided commentary on major news stations, ABC, Fox, Real America, you name it. And I have 60 peer-reviewed publications on the topic. When Peter Novaro reached out to me from the White House and needed help, I answered the call.
Starting point is 01:52:08 When Senator Johnson called me, I answered the call. It's all in the book, Courage to Face COVID-19. And now the American Board, which is only concerned with, did I complete my residency? did I pass my board exams and do I have clinical competence? That's what they usually focus on. That's what they're not focused on. They don't go out and police what doctors say about heart disease, diabetes, or kidney disease. In fact, the Supreme Court says as a doctor, I have free speech.
Starting point is 01:52:38 It's been asserted that a doctor in his or her public statements and talking with patients has free speech. What the ABIM does is in September of 2021, they announced that they're going to have a COVID- misinformation campaign. And they put that out there. And what they did in my case is they went back in time to March of 2021. And they said, aha, you made statements when you answered questions in the Texas Senate that we disagree with. And you are now hereby accused of misinformation. And they pulled in other statements.
Starting point is 01:53:13 And then they said, well, we're going to have a committee meeting on you. So I said, can I attend the meeting? No, you can't. Well, I submitted a response document supporting everything I said, more citation, about 20 pages. They have a meeting. We don't know what the methods of the meeting were, what types of criteria did they use. I did analyze who attended that meeting. Nobody at that meeting has any research competency in COVID.
Starting point is 01:53:40 None of them have any original publications on COVID. None of them have given any testimony or public statements on COVID. The American Board of Internal Medicine hasn't issued any learning modules. They haven't issued any media guidance for doctors, nothing. And they come to this conclusion, and when they come to the conclusion, then they say, and we've come to this conclusion, and here's our evidence of what we think the science is. So then they present their evidence after the conviction has already happened.
Starting point is 01:54:05 This violates every aspect of due process. There was no equal protection. How did they review all the doctors? They didn't tell me. They went ex post facto. They went back in time. Then they produce evidence after they've made their decision. And the evidence that they produce is actually, in my view, incorrect.
Starting point is 01:54:24 They've looked at proportions of deaths and age group and try to intimate that as risk. In my next response to them, I go to the CDC and I said the CDC indicates risk by case fatality ratio, and I give the case fatality ratios. Yeah. So even the evidence that they've cited. So they try to use a population-based model? No, they actually use proportions of deaths and age group and said, well, you said below a certain age, the risks is negligible. Well, it is, according to the case fatality rate. So this is precisely the type of disagreement and interpretation of data that deserves discussion.
Starting point is 01:54:57 And Senator Ron Johnson, when this all happened, called Richard Barron, American Barretted Termin, wrote a letter, called him out and said, let's discuss it. Let's discuss it, what the issues are. Barron refuses to do so. He tweets a few days later that he's joining forces with the American Medical Association. So there's no discussion. So Johnson writes the board, and so listen, I asked McCullough to come and testify. He did the best he could. twice. Senator Bob Hall from Texas writes and said, listen, I called McCullough. He testified for
Starting point is 01:55:24 health and human services. He helped us. And then... With the best I could. The best you could. With what evidence in this brand new virus, this brand new issue, brand new things going on. It's an evolving virus. Right. So that's all very fair statements. And then innumerable doctors write the board. Now the board says that I have a right to appeal, that in a sense, the conviction has occurred, I have the right to appeal, I have to name witnesses, name attorneys, ask for an in-person or a virtual meeting, and this all has to be in in a few days. You have PR firms directly infiltrating medical boards, conflicts of interest like crazy. I was going to say, I found the timing suspicious too, in that you had Ron Johnson running for office
Starting point is 01:56:11 saying, I am going to bring investigations on office. the injuries from vaccines, I'm going to call, you know, Fauci and others. You had Rand Paul saying, I'm all over this. I'm going after gain of function. And I just thought in the climate, the Democratic Party, which seems to have taken a side on this, I'm not political about it, but there's a politics around it. And there was a concern that should there be this red wave, the power of investigation that would be there.
Starting point is 01:56:39 And I have to assume, they all know, one of the primary voices and, you know, and and specialists that's going to appear is you, you have before, you've been at the hearings for Ron Johnson, but here in Texas, boy, it is sure a lot better. If the number one witness they're going to bring in the most educated and highest credentialed person, they can say, yeah, but that guy lost his license. He's in, you know, he's uncertified, uncertified, not licensed, uncertified doctor. They want to demote it to discredit what I think they're concerned you're about to say in what may be some of the most important investigation.
Starting point is 01:57:14 and hearings in this country? Well, there may be help on the way from Senator Rampaul. The bombshell news breaks that we learn that the A-B-I-M is now, it appears to be working with the PR firm that is representing Pfizer and Moderna, and it gets deeper than that. Wow. Weber-Shandwick. Weber-Shandwick is a long-stay in the world's largest PR firm, public relations firm.
Starting point is 01:57:43 They have a long-term. longstanding business relationship with Pfizer. In 2020, they pick up the marketing contract for Moderna. So Pfizer-Moderna have Weber-Shandwick. Weber-Shandwick then engages in a relationship with Weschel Lewinsky and the CDC. They get a $53 million contract from the CDC, and then Weber-Shandwick embeds their marketing team for Pfizer-Moderna within the CDC, in Atlanta. They are in an embedded unit and these young individuals who work for the marketing term, they're posting their posts on LinkedIn and others saying, hey, I got, I'm embedded in the CDC now promoting COVID-19 vaccines, Pfizer-Moderna, because Weber-Shanwick now is, has as their contracts, they have the CDC
Starting point is 01:58:34 and they have Pfizer-Moderna. Senator Ram Paul writes a letter October 24th, 2020, and he writes to Rochelle Lewinsky. It says, what is this? There it is. Okay. What is this, Dell? you have an embedded marketing unit for the vaccine companies within the CDC. The CDC should have nothing to do with pharma. They should- Certainly nothing to do with the marketing arm of pharma, like the advertiser. No, no, come on in. Not only will we go in to refute. Like, we're going to bring you in to help us.
Starting point is 01:59:03 How can they be a fair broker of children who need to receive vaccines when they have embedded marketing units? And now how this ties to the American Board of Internal Medicine. And this is a stunning South by Southwest, which is a very notable festival and IT meeting here in Austin, puts up on its schedule for next year a session called When Doctors Prescribed Misinformation. Who are the panelists for this? One is Alia Mosin from Weber Shandwick,
Starting point is 01:59:38 Wasim Khalid from Blackbird AI, which is an AI company, company and Richard Barron the CEO of American Board of Internal Medicine so there they are in public so now as a three separate specialists but really it's the same bring them together there's the connection so now we can see what's going on yeah anybody who stands in the way of these vaccines and the power of Pfizer Moderna is going to be steamrolled and Americans don't have a chance if unless
Starting point is 02:00:10 there's people like me and Ram Paul and Ron Johnson and you and others who stand up. Where's your career at now? I know that when this all started, you were at Baylor, they ended up saying, under the circumstances, you had another job. Is this affecting your career? So what happened was I had an administrative
Starting point is 02:00:28 and clinical role at a major medical center in Dallas, and that job terminated really before the vaccines in January of 2021, after I had published greatly on COVID, Investigational drug applications testified in the US Senate, did everything I could, I basically was shown the door. About six months later, I was then sued by that health system for media and their interpretation that I was dragging them into the media. Well, I still had a hospital privileges there.
Starting point is 02:01:00 I still saw an examined patients. I transferred my practice to a private practice which thrived. Thousands of calls for new patient appointments, brought in lots more patients to the medical center, stayed the same medical center, but a different employer. Now on the heels of this announcement, I've just been let go from that job with no substantive reason. And the only thing I can conclude is that with a perfect clinical track
Starting point is 02:01:28 record, perfect set of board scores, I've taken the American board, return medicine four times, done great, cardiology three times. You know, they rely on my research in the board questions. I've done the best I can. What I'm concluding is I'm on the brink of being probably the first doctor in modern American history to be stripped of my residency and my fellowship and my credential six years of my life and all of this effort for political reasons around COVID-19 and largely for doing my service as a citizen testifying under oath. Is there anything we have an audience of millions watching this, then you have been keeping us updated. Many people out there, I think, are saying themselves, my life was saved.
Starting point is 02:02:10 because I listened to Dr. Peter McCullough and I avoided that vaccine, went with the different approaches that have also been presented here. Now we want to help you. Obviously, you're going to have legal costs, things like that. Is there a way that we can get involved? We have a very active community out there. How can we help? Because if you go down, it's the dominoes for everyone else out there. That's what they want, right? They want to scare every other doctor. I don't want to scare every other doctor. I want them to say, I'm following Peter McCullough, because Peter McCullough won and survived that. So what can we do to help?
Starting point is 02:02:41 Well, I tell you, I will win and survive, and there's always a silver lining. I have a website, peter McCulloughmd.com. You can go there. There is a support button. It goes to a funding mechanism, which is always appreciated. But I want people to know there are good organizations out there. Association of American Physician and Surgeons,
Starting point is 02:03:00 AAPS online.org. They are suing the ABIM in general for a violation. my civil rights and every other person's civil rights who've been hit with these decertifications. So aAPS online.org, they take no pharma money. They clearly could benefit from good public support. And then the new venture, and the new venture, I think, is very exciting. I've taken a board position of the chief scientific officer now
Starting point is 02:03:25 for the wellness company. Okay. And the wellness company is a national alternative health care system. It's virtual. It's through a cell phone app or a computer. It will have some physical presence, but it involves verticals of doctors and patient care, community pharmacies that will always reliably dispense the drugs, in vitro diagnostics, imaging, counseling, nutraceuticals, and supplements. It's about a $5 app on the cell phone. It's affordable.
Starting point is 02:03:53 The physician visits are very affordable. It's a cash-based system where the more expensive things can go, like labs and in vitro diagnostics can go on insurance. But the wellness company will provide care where patients now have been denied. You know, there's people who have taken a vaccine and they can't even see their doctor. There's still acute COVID patients that are desperate to get Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine or prednisone. So the wellness company, I think, is going to be a great opportunity. Everybody could sign up for that and just have it as a backup. By the way, company after company is signing up having the wellness company be its supplemental benefit.
Starting point is 02:04:29 So that way the company. have your own pharmacy, I take it, or a connection to a pharmacy to make sure. Yeah, they're going to be a whole listing and grouping of community pharmacies, which have really been the heroes in this. That's how we got through with my family. Yeah, and, you know, naturopathic doctors have been heroes through this whole process. We have a clinical pharmacist that are going to help. There's going to be a big effort on what's called deprescribing. There's patients have been loaded up on a whole variety of neurotropic drugs and others, and we've got to start to thin out the pharmacopoeia there.
Starting point is 02:05:02 So I'm going to actually move my practice onto the wellness company platform. I'll be a bit more virtual. I'll probably have the first physical installation of the wellness company in the DFW area. So what's coming out of this, Dell, is that I will become stronger and louder. My analyses are pinpoint. The truth will come out. There is no way that individuals who are advancing this vaccine syndicate, this agenda, what we call in our book, the biopharmacidical complex,
Starting point is 02:05:31 there's no way that they can prevail when we hold the truth. I totally agree. I love that. You're so passionate and not just sort of running from this, but you are charging headlong into it truly heroic and brilliant. And you are such a difference maker. You're what is given hope. I think this movement is growing leaps and bounds.
Starting point is 02:05:55 There are so many successes that I point to all the time. But, you know, in many ways, you're such a catalyst for great change and I think a brighter future. And I think these sort of virtual medical spaces and things is going to bring a whole new approach towards how medicine can be practiced and how we can be more involved in the decisions we're making with our own health. I just want to really have you just quickly hit us up. I know in Dallas, you and the British heart doctor that has spoken out, Asimahultra, who has been on, we've had them on, virtually on this show, but you guys are going to be speaking live in Dallas just a couple of weeks.
Starting point is 02:06:36 We are, you know, we've been communicating back and forth, taxed email and actually talking for nearly two years now, prominent, younger, more handsome UK cardiologist, and of course he's smarter with the British accent. You know, someone has a British accent. I think my uncle Ivan told me he's British. I think it's like a fourfold increase in perceived, not real intelligence, perceived. Except being able to list authors of studies and name like the studies, I think that, I think that, I think you take the lead there. But Malhotra is really a wonderful case study because as you've probably viewed your audience,
Starting point is 02:07:11 his father takes the vaccine, a very former, prominent physician, almost certainly has a vaccine-related, atheroscotic cardiovascular event, dies. and Malhotra, who is promoting the vaccines on Good Morning Britain, whatever, has to come to the realization that, listen, they have big safety issues. I'm talking to him, coaching him. He says, I have to do my own analysis. I have to write my own papers, and he does it, and he gets them published, and that's very hard to do.
Starting point is 02:07:37 I give him great credit. And then he comes out and says, I have to warn people. And so Malhotra is coming. Aesem is coming. November 29th, we're going to be in the Dallas Arboretum. Great. Anybody at DFW area. You want to get tickets, want to get in there.
Starting point is 02:07:50 Definitely www.vaxafety.org slash events. A really brilliant event. You're looking at two of the biggest voices in heart health in the world now standing together discussing COVID and the vaccine. This has changed upon us. This is what has to happen. I always say in many ways these are the birth pangs. I think this COVID thing, whether it's military driven, whatever it ends up being, to me, it's sort of the white knuckle grasp of the Neanderthals of medicine trying to hold onto their relevance
Starting point is 02:08:23 as really this paradigm of medicine is shifting. And I feel like people like you are that transitional space. You're leading us into, I think, a better world. I really see this as positive in the end, but change is difficult and it's painful. It is so refreshing to see someone that's in as much turmoil, shall we say, as you are and still smiling, beautiful, and speaking all over the place. It's just truly an honor to know you. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 02:08:56 And have you here. Our blessings are with you, and we're going to support you in every way we can. Thank you. All right. All right. Well, look, for those of you that were just, you know, watching and sitting through that, that's a lot of science. It's a lot of detail.
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Starting point is 02:10:15 We want you armed with the facts online and on the front lines. Get the facts, lose the fear at the highwire.com. Well, as it turns out, Dr. Peter McCullough was the very first get vaccinated video we ever did. Now you can see why. I mean, the amount of science that you just got in that last hour is absolutely incredible. To think that someone that can recite science at that level that is published where he is at. and they think that they can take away his certifications, a man who outclasses everybody that is trying to take him down.
Starting point is 02:10:56 These are the times we live in. And, you know, I want when we talk about these things, for us to not be debilitated by the, you know, the Goliath that we're up against here. But look at where Dr. McCullough is out and what he is representing. He is smiling. He is glowing. He is charging forward. A man who really, from our perspective, only has everything to lose.
Starting point is 02:11:21 He is probably one of the greatest heart doctors of all times. That stuff could all be stripped away from him. And it still doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because the truth is what is driving him. Saving lives is what is driving him. And I want you to think to yourself, what is it you're doing? Are you having the conversations you should be having? Are you letting your friends take their kids in to get this vaccine?
Starting point is 02:11:46 because they're uneducated and say, oh, I don't really want to bother them here. And I want you to imagine that if you saw a child being abused or hurt in any way, if you looked in and just said, I'm going to leave that alone and just shut the door, is that who we are? Because I know in this movement we're doing a lot of judgment of who is evil and what is evil, but that evil is really just a slippery slope of us losing our humanity. And so I really want us to check in right now, as we're going into this Thanksgiving week, what are we going to do about our own humanity
Starting point is 02:12:16 and what are we going to be responsible for when we live in the future that will be upon us? When we look at our children and we look them in the eyes and we say, I did what I could do. I put all of my effort in, just like Dr. Peter McCullough did and others like him. I did my part.
Starting point is 02:12:35 And for some of you, doing your part is certainly helping us here at ICANN, the Highwire, just by helping us fund all the work that we're doing, It is a huge step in making a difference. What I do to make a difference is to do this show. I also go out and speak all over this country. And though it's going to Thanksgiving week and my family is going to be driving back
Starting point is 02:12:57 towards Boulder, Colorado, I'm going to be flying out to give some really great talks and be joined by some great people. And I'm flying into the belly of the beast there in California just outside of Los Angeles. Tomorrow night on Friday, Liberty and the Divine and Evening with Del Beat Tree, Amy Bond, and the amazing past.
Starting point is 02:13:14 Rob McCoy. That is going to be a night to remember. You definitely want to check that out and get out there. It's sponsored by Perk, so we are at Rob McCoy's church there. It's going to be fantastic. And then that's tomorrow night, then Sunday, early evening at 5 p.m. back in my hometown of Boulder, Colorado, where Polish just said he's going to state it's an emergency with flu and RSV. I'm taking my talk. I'm calling the pandemic of lies. For all of you out there that have of friends that you think are on the verge of waking up. They're starting to ask questions. These speaking events I'm doing right now, I'm laying out, it's basically, you know, encapsulating all that we've delivered here on the high wire. That's going to be at my
Starting point is 02:13:57 family's church, the unity of Boulder Church in Boulder, Colorado, 5 p.m. Sunday. So I'll see you in California. I'll see you in Colorado. We're going to do everything we can. And please, please, as we go into this Thanksgiving week, I want you to just start, you know, taking some deep breaths and imagining the conversations you're going to have with your families as they sit across the table. How you're going to be courteous and you're going to be clear, you're going to be open-minded and you're going to listen, but you're going to start presenting information to your family to wake them up. We need them. We need you to need them, okay? We cannot let our families go astray here. We are under attack. Everything we know about
Starting point is 02:14:42 freedom is hanging in the balance. I don't care what party anyone is in. In fact, both sides of the aisle have gotten behind authoritarianism and locked us down in states that were Republican and Democrat. It didn't seem to matter except for a very few. So I really only focus on those that are making the change because change is right, not based on some political affiliation. But we've got to have these conversations. You cannot allow yourself to be politically correct. any longer or censor yourself. You know, it is time to have these conversations or we are going to be in real trouble.
Starting point is 02:15:19 It is upon us now. We are working here at the Highwire, but we can only do as much as you share with the people that you know. Introduce them to the Highwire, introduce them to the interview that you just saw of Dr. Peter McCullin and say, do you not trust this guy?
Starting point is 02:15:34 Does he not seem like he knows what he's talking about? We can and are making a difference in this world. every time you are bold enough to open up and stand for truth, you have shifted the pulse of the world. It's that important. And believe me, you, I'm going back, and I'm going to deal with some family and friends there in the heart of the beast in Colorado.
Starting point is 02:15:58 I'm bringing my A game. And I'm going to be at that family table, and boy, you're going to wish you could be there because I got some things to say. I know you do too. Don't be afraid to say it. Have a wonderful thank you. Thanksgiving, enjoy your families, enjoy the debate, enjoy life.
Starting point is 02:16:16 That is what we're fighting for here on the Highwire and YouTube. I'll see you next week.

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