The Highwire with Del Bigtree - MIT SCIENTIST CONNECTS MRNA SHOTS TO BRAIN DISEASE
Episode Date: April 28, 2022Senior Research Scientist at MIT, Stephanie Seneff, discusses the recent paper she co-authored with Peter McCullough, which shines a light on science showing that mRNA vaccines may be causing widespre...ad illness and death.#StephanieSeneff #Prions #VaccineSafetyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.
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A lot to celebrate huge victories all around this country.
But at the end there, Jeffrey Jackson started talking about this data coming in from Walgreens,
higher infection rates amongst those that have been vaccinated.
Also, these alarming numbers, and we've been showing them to you for months now out of the
UK showing all-cause mortality being increased, especially starting in January of 2022
from those that are vaccinated. What are those deaths?
What are they dying from?
We've also talked about that 40% rise, the insurance adjuster here in America.
Many insurance companies talking about the 40% increase in all-cause mortality from ages 18 to 64.
It's all seemed like a mystery.
Until I read a great paper, innate immune suppression by SARS-CoV-2M RNA vaccinations,
the role of G quadruplexes, exosomes, and microRNAs.
I want you to pay attention to the great writers on this.
We've got Stephanie Senev, Greg Nye, Anthony M. Kiriakopoulos, and Peter McCullough, one of another, just great mind that is supporting us here.
But before I get into this paper, let me just introduce you to Stephanie Seneff.
I met Stephanie back when I was making the documentary Vax, which thrust me into the middle of this conversation.
She's a true hero.
She's a light in science, a genius with more letters behind her name from MIT, but this should just give you a taste of who she is.
Now is Dr. Stephanie Seneff, senior research scientists at the MIT computer science and artificial intelligence lab.
Dr. Stephanie Seneff, who is a major resource in an area that many of us are not very knowledge from.
She has a B.S degree from MIT in biology and MS, EE, and PhD degrees from MIT in electrical engineering and computer.
She recently gave a presentation warning of the possible long-term side effects of the COVID vaccines.
My topic is COVID-19 vaccines and neurodegenerative disease.
And I have to say that I thought glyphazate was the worst chemical I would ever encounter in my lifetime.
And now I've met my match with the messenger-oriented vaccines.
They are extremely dangerous, in my opinion.
And the technology is novel and untested and has many unknowns.
And there were personal reasons why I was upset with the
way the medical establishment is treating things. And I didn't believe the current dog might.
Dr. Seneff, this is absolutely terrifying. When you look at the potential harm from these vaccines,
it just doesn't make any sense. Any parent who's been pressured end up giving a child this vaccination,
what do you say to them tonight? They should do everything they can to avoid it, absolutely everything
they can. Well, it's my honor and pleasure to welcome Stephanie Seneff to the High Wire.
Stephanie, it's great to see you again. How are you doing?
Great to be back. Thank you. That's really great. Let's just tell me right up front.
I mean, it's like two of my favorite people in the world have collided on this paper, Dr. Peter
McCullough and you. And it's one of those moments where I was like, I should have introduced
them. I mean, how did that happen? Just out of curiosity. There's other great writers,
but we've had Peter McCullough on a lot. How did you two come together with the other writers on
this paper. Yeah, I mean, we sort of knew each other because we were in the same fight together.
And he sent me a paper actually that he was working on together with Anthony Curiacopoulos.
Okay. They had a paper they were collaborating on and they wondered if I would just read it and comment.
And I did. And then I commented enough that they said, hey, you want to be an author.
So, but that was a different paper from this one. And that one is still not published. We're still
working on it. So we're hoping to get that one out as well. But then we, so Greg Nye and I had
written that earlier paper from May, published in May.
Okay.
And so we joined up with them, those two, the four of us, I think we make a great team.
I'm loving it.
The research is fantastic.
It's so interesting.
And all these brilliant people putting their heads together to figure these things out.
That's amazing.
I mean, every time I've ever sat and had an opportunity to talk with you, you blow my mind.
I always sort of joke.
It's like being around a human computer.
There's just some way that the way your mind is able to
put these thoughts together. I can't imagine you and McCullough and all these people in one room.
That room, the whole building must just float when that happens. All right, well, let's get to
this paper. A couple of the paragraphs that jumped out at us. What may be a particular concern
is the fact that GC enrichment content in vaccine MRNAs results in an enhanced ability
for potential G quadruplexes formations in these structures, and this could cause onset of neurological
disease. Remarkably, the human prion protein, PRP genetic sequence, contains multiple G4
these quadruplexes forming motifs, and their presence may form the missing link in the initial
conversation, conversion, I mean, of PRP to the misfolded form PRPSC. PRP binding to its own
mRNA may be the seed that causes the protein to misfold. This observation is particularly
concerning light of the fact that the spike protein is prion-like character.
In your conclusion, it is imperative that worldwide administration and the MRA vaccinations
be stopped immediately until further studies are conducted to determine the extent of the potential
pathological consequences outlined in this paper.
In the end, we are not exaggerating to say that billions of lives are at stake.
We call on the public health institutions to demonstrate with evidence why the issues discussed
in this paper are not relevant to public health or to acknowledge that they are.
and to act accordingly. Now, this is a very long paper, and so there's a lot discussed. So just to break
it down right up front, what are, and you mentioned, you know, prion disease, which I know we're
going to get into, but what would you list now of the things as you've looked at this MRNA
technology and we look at the long term down the road potential consequences? What are the diseases
that you believe may be caused by these vaccines? So what does that list,
right now for you.
And it's sometimes just making it worse.
You have Parkinson's disease and it gets a lot worse after the vaccine.
A lot of it is just making everything you have worse.
And certainly cancer is right up there.
I think it really accelerates the rate of cancer progression.
And then all these neurod degenerative diseases, Parkinson's disease, ALS, Lou Gehrig's,
that's Lou Gehrig's disease, CJD, Kutzfeld-Eachlop disease, probably multiple sclerosis.
And then, of course, all kinds of blood problems, sombosis and hemorrhage.
pulmonary embolism, which is a consequence of thrombosis, a blood clot getting loose,
heart problems, all kinds of different heart problems, especially myocarditis, but even heart failure,
heart attack. And it attacks the liver as well, so the liver, the heart, the blood and the brain.
Yeah, I think those are the main ones. And of course, cancer, and then also increased risk of
infection with anything. And you see the herpes, shingles, you know, lots of people getting shingles
after the vaccine and pels palsy, which is probably from an infection, a latent infection that
becomes active. So basically we've talked a little bit about this, like maybe dormant viruses
or things or potentially just vulnerabilities to not fight off a virus because your immune
system is just beat up by this vaccine and it's not defending you. All right, that's a, that's a
huge list. Now, one of the things you did in the paper that I think is greatest for you, you went
through VERS. So I want to just bring up a couple of these various charts that's in there.
so that you can just help us understand why that list is there.
Tell me about this.
What are we looking at?
Right.
Now, so first of all, the numbers are small.
All the numbers are small here.
And that's because when people don't connect cancer with vaccines.
And these are all different kinds of cancer, breast cancer, prostate cancer, etc.
And for each one, we looked at the year 2021 in the VERS database, and we looked at the symptom
field.
And every case that mentioned breast cancer got to count.
So 245 cases in 2021, where they mentioned breast cancer.
cancer as a symptom, consequent, after getting a vaccine, a COVID vaccine.
And it's 245. And then when you look at all the vaccine reports from 2021 for all the other vaccines,
all the children's vaccines, the flu shot, the shingle shot, all the things the adults get,
254. So there were nine more cases for all the other vaccines. Almost all the cases were breast cancer,
96.8 percent of the cases where breast cancer was mentioned in any report in 2021 was a COVID
vaccine report. Just saying that almost all the cases. COVID vaccine is dominating theirs is what you're
saying. This is the vaccine adverse events reporting system. This is a system where doctors and
anybody can, but usually it's doctors report incidences that happen after vaccination. It is our
main reporting system. Everyone's supposed to be using it. Studies have shown that it's a fraction of
the amount of actual cases. But just to be clear, what you're showing here, and this is this is a
study by Harvard showed that fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are actually reported.
And I think you're right when it comes to cancer is probably even less than that because
nobody really associates ever has associated cancer with the vaccine. So it's unlikely
that if a vaccine caused cancer, that the doctors say, oh, that must have been the vaccine.
It's just so outside of our frame of reference. But what you're saying is when you listed all
these things and just asked bears in total, the total number of all that that category being,
mentioned 96.8% were just for the COVID vaccine's prostate cancer, 96.2% of the 2021 compared to all the
other vaccinations. And you can see 100% of pancreatic. Right. All right, here's the other chart.
Let's take a look at this. All right, what are we looking at here? So this is cardiac
symptoms. And so this is actually much larger numbers. You can see 8,000 total of different kinds
of cardiac events. So we collected up cases of myocarditis, cardiac arrest, or respiratory
eras, erythmias, and that includes tachycardia and heart attack and heart failure.
So these are all very severe cases, you know, symptoms in the heart.
And the numbers for COVID-19 next, and then for all vaccines.
So the same thing again, just as before, 2021.
And you can see altogether there were 8,000 different reports of these conditions for the heart
under COVID, over 8,000.
And that was 97.7% of all the reports for any vaccine in 2021.
When you look at this, what I think is in you're pointing out, and it's something that I haven't really thought about, is if you want a red flag in science, you sort of compare things to each other, right?
This is at least 16 vaccines, and I'm imagining we can include all of those that aren't mandated by the CDC that we see advertisements for.
So what, 20, 25, maybe even 30 vaccines on the market of all of them in the last year, 2021, look how many injuries are being listed for,
the COVID-19 vaccine compared to all the rest.
98%, 96%, 98% to the 97%.
There clearly is a problem with this vaccine
compared to the other vaccines combined.
All the other vaccines combined are not even
in the stratosphere of injury that this vaccine appears
to be creating.
And so you would think there would be like some hesitancy
by our health departments to say, whoa, whoa,
Houston, we may have a problem here,
but there's none, right?
Are you shocked by that?
I'm amazed.
I can't see how they can say there isn't a signal here,
because it's incredibly obvious.
And we did another thing.
We looked at flu shots, we figured out the number of flu shots,
total number that would be given to the population,
and the total number of COVID shots,
taking into account the boosters and whatnot in 2021.
And we said if COVID was comparable to flu,
so you would have about the same number per shot of events,
you know, how many events would you have?
And it turns out that COVID-19 has 27 times,
as many events as it would have if it were comparable to flip.
27 times.
Wow.
Wow.
And yet just crickets on these issues, which is why it's so important you're doing these investigations.
All right.
Let's jump into, I think, one of the, we've touched on this topic a little bit.
You mentioned it in your original paper last year, which is prion disease.
Can you explain to me, first of all, like, you know, prions.
What does that mean?
What is a prion?
Yeah, very fascinating.
And I've been fascinated by prions for a long time, so I know quite a bit about them.
Even before COVID, I was well informed.
It's a fascinating, a protein-based infection model.
Prusner won the Nobel Prize for figuring it out, that these proteins alone could cause
disease, cause essentially an infectious disease.
And the infection is propagated by virtue of the fact that the prion, the prion protein
misfolds, and then it causes other proteins to buddy up with it.
So it triggers a misfolding of other proteins in that cell, including proteins that are not prion proteins,
proteins like amyloid beta, which causes Alzheimer's disease.
Okay, I think I heard we have a little animation that maybe you can walk us through here that just sort of simplifies this.
So let's take a look and just tell me what we're looking at as we go through it.
So Cruckel-Yakab disease is one of these prion diseases, correct?
Yeah, that is the prion disease, the one that's caused by the prion protein.
And you can have other proteins that come in that are prion-like, and they can call.
the same problem. So it's coming into the blood vessels and it's going past the
blood barrier into the near it's reaching the neurons and so you can see the
little things that are come sweeping through the little dots those are the
prions coming in and they're going to infect a cell at some point they're going to get
into a cell they're going to infect it and then they're going to start making this
plaque that that red bob thing is the formation of these plaques. Now here you have
the membrane of the cell and these little red things that are coming up or
getting in and they're gradually building this plaque that's going to come out
on the other side getting into the cell.
And you can see this red stuff growing.
That's the plaque that's forming from the collection of these prions and they're going to
propagate. So when one comes in, more join up and it builds this plaque,
in these beta sheet formations, it builds these plaques.
And then it'll gather other proteins into its mix to make itself bigger.
So it'll grow and then accumulate.
And then eventually you get these fibrils, like these are the amyloid beta fibrils,
those little strings. This kind of is hard to follow, but the fibrils, you see those red strings
are those are going to build up outside the cells, and eventually they're going to join hands
and buddy up and make a big plaque regions. And so their brain becomes filled up with these
amyloid beta plaque that's characteristic feature of Alzheimer's disease. And that's what the circle
thing, amyloid plaque. And this takes a long time, I would imagine, to develop usually, right? I mean,
these are things that happen over years. Right. Right. Yes. And in fact, I'm a
expert on Parkinson's disease because my mother died from it, so I've been very interested in that
disease. And it's, they've shown in papers that it often starts in the gut with a foreign protein,
a pathogen that produces a protein that's prion-like, it resembles the prion protein. And that means
it can misfold in the same way and cause that kind of trouble. And the immune cells take up
that prion-like protein and carry it into the spleen. And then they're trying to get antibodies
to be produced against it for protection. But if there's too much
of it, then the, it starts, it gets released in exosomes and it travels along the nerve fibers,
particularly the vagus nerve, up to the brain. And eventually it reaches the brain, the neurons
get infected. They start to have accumulation also of prion-like misfolding. So it's a process.
When you say misfolding, basically this butts up against a healthy cell and then that cell
folds in properly and now it just sort of becomes this domino of folding, misfolding cells.
Is that right?
Not cells, not cells, proteins.
Proteins inside the cell.
Yes, other proteins.
There's a whole class of, this whole group of proteins that have this problem.
Often they normally would form alpha helix, which is called an alpha helix shape, or they'd be unstructured.
And then when they misfold, they turn into a beta sheet structure.
And it's the beta sheet structure that's the misfolded version of it that causes disease.
So the protein is perfectly fine in its normal shape.
But when it encounters these trigger proteins, which are these misfolded prion proteins,
it also misfold.
It joins the club, basically, and it grows.
The thing grows.
It's like a monster.
And it happens over decades.
So they've seen with Parkinson's disease that people have evidence of misfolded proteins accumulating in the spleen long before they show up in the brain.
They gradually move up to the brain.
The number grows in the brain.
And eventually you start to have symptoms.
So long before symptoms, you can have lots of these proteins.
misfolded in your body unable to be cleared.
And it's basically once this starts happening, it's essentially a death sentence.
Like you are, this will eventually just take you out.
It looks that way.
I mean, it seems like they've really tried hard to treat Alzheimer's
and they haven't found anything that can reverse it.
And most of the drugs that they found don't actually help either.
They're pretty useless.
You know, they haven't found a way.
They've been spending a lot of money trying to find drugs that can reverse Alzheimer's
and they have not succeeded.
And again, in that list of prion diseases, the one I think that is famous, sort of that mad cow disease or, you know, where they just stand it, like the animal starts shaking.
That's sort of the animal version of it, right?
And so...
Right.
That's the prion protein.
That's the cow version of the prion protein.
The human prion protein causes C.J.D.
Critsfeld-Yalka disease.
Okay.
Which is a very serious neurodigenature of disease.
Okay.
Now, when we talk about...
When we're talking about these prions, now what does that have to do with these COVID-19?
vaccine. Like, why are we talking prions and COVID-19 vaccine?
Very fascinating. And in fact, it was a Geert Banden.
Geert-Bandon Bosch, yeah?
Yes, I think he's the one who was talking about the possibility of it being a
prion-like protein. And since I know prions well, and I know that they have this
characteristic motif, GXXXG motif, which is a sequence of five amino acids in the protein.
The G stands for glycine. So it's glycine. And then the X stands for wildcard.
So it could be any amino acid.
I see you have some I think you have some visuals that will help us
yeah so this stuff it's complicated I find it really fascinating I find it
fascinated too and I want to help our audience find it fascinating so let's get
some visuals in here so this is out of this paper yeah the XXXXG is a is a
protein see down here in the box there yeah G G G G WG that is a sequence that
shows up multiple times in the prion protein itself the human prion protein and the
G is glycine the W is tryptophen
And up here is the actual amino acid code.
This is the three-letter code in the famous DNA code.
This is in the RNA molecule.
These Gs up here stand for guanin.
So it's very confusing.
This is a G-guining and this is a G-glycine.
G-glycine is the amino acid in the protein, and guanin is the nucleotide in the RNA.
This is the messenger RNA.
Okay.
So you see the GXXXXXG is the motif like this.
And in the prion protein, it has lots of these.
It has like 14 of these GXXXXXG.
patterns in the human prion protein. Okay. So this one's bad. You don't want this GXXG thing.
You don't. And most proteins have none. Most proteins have none of this GXXXG motif.
Amylid beta has four. The prion protein has 14 and the spike protein has seven. So it's sort of, you know, approaching twice as bad as amyloid beta with respect to its
prion like ability. Yeah. But not nearly as bad as the prion protein itself, which has 14.
Okay. And it's important to look at this GGX, this thing up here.
because you see all these Gs are guine, not glancing, but guanine.
That's the nucleotide in the RNA.
When you have lots of guanines, a crowding of guanines, that's when you get those G quadroplexers.
Those are forming in the RNA.
Folks, hang in here.
We will simplify this, but this is super, super interesting.
This is what the scientists are looking at, and we want them looking at this.
Now, let me understand this, this GXXG, there's, that G can be two different things.
It doesn't matter.
It's where it's grabbing the G.
So it is guineine, but it could also be glycine, right?
It's supposed to be.
Well, when it's talking about G as a symbol and it's an RNA, it's talking about guanin.
If it says G and its protein, it's glycine.
And the code for glycine, GigiG, which is guan, guan, guan, in the RNA codes for glycine.
So when you have glycine, you have G rich RNA.
They go together.
They're hooked.
Okay.
Because the code for glycine is GGGG.
So the code for W is triptophan and its code is UGG.
So you have a lot of guanines when you have glycine and tryptophan.
This W is UGGG.
So this is the actual sequence in the RNA.
And you can see GG, G, G, G, there's lots of Gs here.
Those are the guanines that form this structure.
It's so fascinating.
They form these little squares and then they stack up the squares to form this kind of building.
It's like a building.
Okay.
A square structure.
So this is a quadruplex right here that we're looking at.
That's the quadruplex.
Yeah.
And you see there's a pattern up here that describes it.
It's talking about how many guanines in a row and then how many other things in a row.
This little thing describes the actual pattern that they look for to try to find these things.
Okay, so why are quadruplexes bad?
Like why is this something that we need to be concerned about?
Yeah, they're very, very complicated.
And we have paragraphs in our paper that are completely unintelligible because it's so hard.
I have a hard time understanding it myself.
I've read a lot of papers on them and I'm still struggling.
And actually, people who wrote the papers don't understand either because they're...
So this is new.
Like this is something we're really just, again, we've created a problem and we barely even
understand what that problem is.
Is that the essence of this?
That's right.
Yes.
And I can tell you two things at least that I know about them that worries me.
And one is that the prion protein, the human prion protein, as you might imagine, has the potential
to make all these G quadruplexes because it has all these glycings.
It has a lot of glycines.
So it makes the G quadroplexes.
And they have found in research that the protein itself binds to the G quadriplexes in its own RNA.
So the RNA makes the protein.
The protein binds to the G quadruplex in the protein.
And when those two bind together, they mess each other up.
The protein misfolds into its prion shape, its dangerous shape.
And the G quadruplex falls apart.
It's really, really wild.
They interact with each other.
It's so interesting.
So that's number one.
So the spike protein could do the same thing by binding to its own RNA at the G quadruplexes,
causing it to misfold and then causing it to cause trouble.
So now when we're talking about the spike protein, are we talking about the spike protein in nature has this issue with prion domains and G quadruplexes?
Yes.
The one in the virus has seven and the one in the vaccine has seven.
seven of these GXXXXG things.
However, the vaccine has modified its RNA.
This is where it gets really serious in my opinion.
Okay.
Because they have done something called codon optimization.
And what that means is that they've replaced the codons.
The original virus had a certain RNA sequence.
They know what it is.
And they said, let's make something different.
Let's make something better because we want to make sure
it makes lots of protein in a hurry.
And we know how to make that happen.
And one thing they did was they replaced all
the uridines with methyl pseudo uridine. They figured out that that's going to cause the protein to be
very sturdy, very hard to break it down. The RNA should be very sturdy. We've covered this before.
This I have a little bit of a sense. I just want to go through a paper we've talked about before.
This is a great paper out of the UK, the UK column stabilizing the code. Basically in 2005,
doctors Weissman and Carrico discovered a way to protect foreign M RNA from the body's immune
system. That scientific milestone would be key to the advancement of the MRNA vaccines in 2020.
their discovery that by modifying the RNA code, modifying the nucleoside uridine, as Stephanie just said,
resulted in ablating the innate immune response involved toll-like receptors.
Basically, everywhere where you see that little sigh symbol, there, there should have been a U for uridine.
This is the pseudo-uridine, sort of a man-made uridine that has been put in there.
And all of that, the goal, ironically, was to get it past the tolake receptors.
like that's part I know, like get it past the tolic receptors, which are basically your centurions
of your immune system looking out for what is self and what is not self and attacking any foreign
matter, and by shifting it, they're able to sneak it by the immune system.
Now, what is it, how does it sneak by?
Like, what is it they've done that confuses the body?
Like, why does it work?
Well, the methyl pseudo-uridines work because they, they, they, they,
mess up the enzymes that would normally break it down. So they can't break down the RNA. This sticks
around for a long time because of those methyl pseudo-uridines. It turns out they also make it
very efficient to make protein quickly. But that's not the only thing that makes it efficient,
because they've done a design. Well, the G quadruplexes also make it efficient. They did the codon
optimization, which is to replace the codon that the virus chose with a different one. Like you say
glycine is GGX. That means it could be GGA,
Gigi U, GGC, or GG.
So X being like the wild card.
A wild card.
Okay, got it.
So supposing the virus said, let's make a GGA, right?
The researchers said, no, no, no, we want GG because we know GG is more efficient.
It's going to make more protein.
It's going to be better because of codon optimization.
They want to optimize it to be able to make lots of protein, to make it fast, and to keep making it, you know, to not stop.
And so they ended up replacing a lot of the,
nucleotides with guanine.
And they didn't change the code.
I mean, it's still codes for the same amino acid, but it's a different code because there's
a redundancy in the codes.
So they change the code in the RNA such that it has a lot more guanins.
And what that means is it has a lot more G quadruplexes.
It has a lot more potential to form G4s, which can then bind to the prion protein and cause it
to misfold into a prion-like structure.
Wow.
So essentially, breaking this down, it's a lot of G's and it can be very confusing.
But by adding, by changing the actual spike protein, and it sounds to me like making it a super
spiked protein.
They said, let's take the most deadly part of this virus, the spike protein, which is causing
the blood clots and all the issues we're seeing, you know, of those that are having a bad
reaction in COVID, and let's make it a super spike protein that gets around the immune system,
puts the toll like receptors asleep, and then adds all of these extra Gs that can bring
into these these these these boxes these G quadruplexes which then feed and and work with the
prions to release more of that so all of this is being produced at a higher rate in your body
when you're vaccinated versus if you came in contact with the wild virus that simply put
that my body's producing more of these problematic quadruplexes and prions from the vaccine than
if i had gotten the natural virus because of the super abilities science gave it is that is that
Much more. I would say much more. And in fact, the immune cells take up these message RNA particles that the vaccine delivers. They actually take it up. They don't take up the virus because they don't have the H2 receptor. So they're being infected with the vaccine. And they can't stop themselves from making spike protein. They basically go into a panic. They rush into the lymph system. They go to the lymph nodes into the spleen. This stuff is spreading off to the body. And they say, hey, help me out. I got to get rid of this stuff. Make some antibodies. Make some antibodies. And then they are over.
loaded with spike protein so they release it in the form of these exosomes. And you can see this
is a source cell releasing exosomes. These are the exosomes here. They can have all kinds of stuff in
them. So like exosomes is basically like calling one of those companies that has a storage unit
that comes and picks the stuff up and take this away. I got so much garbage in my house, go hide it for me.
But it's not really hiding. What is it hiding is taking it up potentially to your brain
and to these other places where it's getting stored all through your body, which is the major problem then.
Right, absolutely. So I think the spleen is loaded up with immune cells that are massively making spike protein, packaging it up into exosomes, releasing them. And they're going to travel along the nerve fibers. They are very good at traveling along nerve fibers. They go from the spleen. They get into the vagus nerve. They travel up to the brain, to the heart, to the liver, to the gut, and they cause trouble because they deliver the spike protein. And even potentially the messenger RNA that makes the spike protein could be inside those exosomes. And they deliver it to all of those critical organs. And then once the
spike protein arrives, it causes damage. And that's how you see the heart problems, the brain
problems and the liver problems. So do you believe we're going to see an increase in Alzheimer's and
Parkinson's and these, you know, these prion-like diseases? I mean, is that the concern here?
Absolutely. I almost have no doubt. And, you know, when we wrote our first paper, Greg and I,
we predicted that it would happen, but we predicted it would take the years or decades. So we thought
younger people are going to start getting Alzheimer's younger and younger and more and more cases
are going to show up over time. But by the time we figure it out, by the time it happens,
we won't connect it to the vaccine because it was a long time ago. But I think it's happening
much faster than that from what I'm seeing. I'm getting email from lots of people who have
shared their own personal story with me. And it's been amazing people who talk about Parkinson's,
ALS, CJD, which is the prion disease. They're sharing with me personal stories about themselves or
their close relatives that are, you know, getting very sick after the vaccine.
And, you know, Luke Montagnier was an author on a preprint paper.
It hasn't been reviewed.
They had 16 cases of CJD showing up in people consistently about a month after their second
vaccine.
That's shocking, right?
This is a disease that is supposed to take a very long time to develop.
And it is happening as I was shocked.
I was shocked.
in the late Luke Montaigne who obviously won the Nobel Prize for being able to isolate the HIV
virus just a great scientist and a great loss this year but this is where he was focused also really
really shocked he was very upset about the vaccines and he was right I really believe he was concerned
about neurodegenerative disease and he was right
we're also by the way we are getting stories of people that are suffering from like you know advanced
immediate onset Parkinson's and even dying within just weeks after vaccination. So an accelerated
problem there. Now, you're talking about the spleen takes this up. It's making so much of it
because they made this super spike protein that hit its way through. The body, I'm sure,
is having trouble attacking it because now does it still look like a virus? The spike protein is
technically a virus, right? Or it's the part of a virus. You know, what is it,
Does the body still see it as a virus?
No, no, and that's another big thing,
and that was a big breakthrough for them,
because they had found that because if it kept the same RNA
that was in the virus and configured it as the original virus RNA,
the cells that took it up figured out right away,
oh my God, I'm being infected by a virus,
and they would send out alarm bells
and they would draw on the immune system,
and they would get right on it to break it down.
So they were worried their RNA would get broken down
before it never had a chance to make protein,
in which case you wouldn't get antibodies.
So that was a big concern. How do we keep this from happening?
And it was a breakthrough when they figured out we can humanize it.
And they actually attached to it controls on the left and the right, the three prime untranslated region.
And the five prime untranslated region, they took those from human cells, a model from human protein.
And in fact, they picked a human protein, which is interesting, the hemoglobin, the protein that makes the hemoglobin in the red blood cells,
the red blood cells don't have a nucleus.
So they have to keep their RNA going for a long time.
So they have put the hemoglobin making protein has very special things on the ends of it to keep it from getting broken down.
They said, well, let's use that.
We can keep this protein from getting broken down.
And furthermore, we can make it look human so that the immune system will be fooled.
They won't notice that this is a viral infection.
And it worked beautifully.
So there's no type one if you're trying to kill somebody.
I mean, like the entire, I mean, it's really, honestly, on this show, I have always said,
that I think it's a step too far to say that this thing is designed, eugenics, reducing population.
But boy, sheer dumb luck, this thing feels like the perfect storm.
I mean, I don't even understand how they thought it would be smart to take a virus
and then make it look like human RNA so that it can get past your immune system
and then get into the cells so that it can create more of it without the immune system knowing it's supposed to attack.
Like literally, like you're taking the worst part of this virus and making it this, like I said, put a capable.
on it and the ability to fly and have laser beams out of its eyes and now we're shocked that there
may be long-term effects and then you're saying because it is producing it so fast because it's so
hardy hardier and stronger than the virus would have been had you got it naturally your immune
systems losing this fight is loading up exosomes calling in you know the storage systems that are
then driving it and storing it in your brain all over the place which wouldn't have happened
had it been the wild virus your body would have fought it off killed it dead we'd be through this and
And then I think about in all of that, these poor bodies are trying to fight off this insane production of this pseudo spike protein man made in the vaccine.
It finally gets over it.
And then Anthony Fauci says, time for your booster shot.
And then people come and do it all over again to themselves.
It's really amazing.
I can't understand how people keep on lining up and getting these shots.
And they're so thrilled as soon as they are loud, as soon as they make the cut.
it's approved for them.
Is the right age?
You know, over 50, they can do it over 50.
Get down there, get that shot right away.
I just am so shocked that people are so willing to subject themselves to this.
So, I mean, you know, again, I pray that you're wrong.
I mean, when I have these conversations, I pray that you're wrong.
I pray that Peter McCullough is wrong.
That Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of the MRNA vaccine technology, is wrong,
that the late Luke Montanier spent his last days focused on this prion disease and these things
that are killing people very quickly after the vaccine. But this is the thing. I'm having to pray
that too many world-renowned scientists are wrong. And what I get from the other side is we just
don't know how it works, but we're recommending another booster. Really shocked that the vaccine
failed to stop the virus, but get that other booster. I mean, on the other side of the tennis court
right now. There's just no competition, Stephanie. I mean, you're out there, you know,
really nailing this down. So lastly, because, I mean, obviously there's so much this paper and I want
people to read it and they'll have in their inbox that they do. There's also something that is
your wheelhouse, which is glyphosate. Now, I want to just remind people that when you appeared in
Vax, this is what you said when I had interviewed you for Vax. I got interested in studying
autism eight years ago when I saw the numbers go up and I was quite alarmed because I could
see that the trend was exponential growth and exponential growth is extremely scary. Every couple
of years the CDC provides a number of what percentage of the kids are diagnosed with autism
and you've got the dots going all the way back to 1975, you draw the line, it is a perfect
exponential curve. If we assume that things are going to continue as they have for the past 30
years into the future, we can predict that by 2032, 80% of the boys born will end up on the autism
spectrum. I mean, this is going to be a complete catastrophe if we just let it happen.
The reason I bring it up is really about the personal. I've told this story many times.
I was sitting in your office at MIT when we did that interview. And I, you know, actually, Andy
Wakefield had asked a bunch of the questions. But then I said, I have a couple questions.
I sat down and I said to you, now you're tracking the math on, you know, what we're seeing
is the increase in autism.
By the way, your numbers are standing up.
We're seeing credible increases that are not stopping.
But what I said to you, and I'll never forget it, I said, now, Stephanie, we are not
increasing the vaccine program every single year.
So though your graph looks like we are doing that, that was what it would take to keep increasing.
Certainly this has to plateau or slow down at some point before we get to one and two.
And I'll never forget, you said, no, actually, on the contrary, I think it's about to accelerate.
Those numbers, you said, I can't prove that.
But we are waiting to see the first data ever on the generations that have grown up eating foods covered in glyphosate.
And so glyphosate being your wheelhouse.
You've been on this for several years.
Incredible book you have out now.
It's a bestseller toxic legacy.
Everybody, you've got to check this book out, how the weed killer glyphosate is destroying our health and the environment.
And so you thought that that was going to increase the problem with autism.
Do you feel like it had an effect?
Because glyphosate is sprayed, and we've covered this on our show many times.
And if you haven't seen that in our show, definitely go back and watch our episodes on glyphosate, the Monsanto product.
Also knows Roundup.
If you're using Roundup on your yard or your garden, stop immediately.
This stuff is supposed to be banned.
Hopefully you can't get to it, but I don't know what's happening with that.
But the point being, this is sprayed on 80 to 90 percent.
of the crops in America. Do you believe that that is having an effect when you're looking at all
these other issues with the MRNA vaccines? But COVID itself, do you think glyphosate has played
a role in COVID in this pandemic also? Absolutely. Absolutely. I feel like the evidence is
very strong. And you can look at it epidemiologically, too, because you see the countries that are having
tremendous difficulty controlling COVID, all of Europe, United States, Brazil. Those are all countries
that are heavily involved with glyphosate usage and on their crops,
and they've got lots of exposure to their population.
And the other thing I worry about is glyphosate in biofuels.
I really think that could be contributing to COVID in a big way
because I think now that glyphosate is in the air in a city where they're using biofuels,
like, for example, ethanol.
The United States has 10% ethanol in our gasoline,
and the president just announced that we want to increase it to 15%
in order to reduce our use of consumption of oil.
Oh my God.
And I really worry about that because I think that there is glyphosate in the ethanol.
It's getting into the air.
People are breathing it in.
And I have a whole chapter in my book on how glyphosate disrupts the immune system.
The innate immune system gets clobbered, I believe, by glyphosate.
And it's because the innate immune system is weak that the lungs are unable to fight off the vaccine.
The virus.
The virus.
And so, and as you pointed out, where we used glyphosate, we had that map come up.
You could almost point out that those are the worst hit by COVID, having the worst upper respiratory issues.
And a lot of this happens to do with the gut biome, right?
I've had Zach Bush.
We talk about the importance of intestinal health.
Glyposate destroys the bacteria's designed to kill bacteria and things.
And so it just wastes your stomach so that any ability to mount defenses against illness and disease is being affected by the glyphosate then.
Absolutely. And I think it has a very serious effect on the mitochondria.
The mitochondria produced the energy for the cell.
And when the immune cells don't have enough energy, they can't fight it off the virus.
Do you think that glyphosate is interacting with the vaccine in any particular way?
I suspect so. I think it probably has the same problem.
Those people who are more likely to be seriously injured by COVID are probably also more likely to be seriously injured by the vaccine.
And I think in both cases, it could be because of excess glyphosate exposure.
So, all right, lots of very, very alarming work, but I'm glad you're out there doing it.
What is our takeaway?
What are the solutions?
I mean, obviously, stop, stop the vaccines, stop the boosters, wherever you are, quit while you're ahead,
don't do this again.
What else can we do to strengthen our bodies for, you know, these issues?
I think number one is to switch to 100% certified or.
organic diet. When you shop at the grocery store, look for the certified organic label.
Non-GMO is not good enough. Some of the highest glyphosate contamination is in non-GMO foods,
like chickpeas and garbonzo beans and oats and wheat.
I think about that. I always think that that's a trick. I want to point out to people.
You see the non-GMO on your bread like, oh, awesome. It's non-GMO. Weet isn't GMO.
It would mean non-GMO we usually think means glyphosate resistant. That's the crops that would have been, you know,
again, man-made crops in a way where they've made them so you can pour this deadly poison all over
them. They don't die. And then you eat them covered in that stuff that your body will die. It's
going to really affect the bacteria. It's an antibiotic by nature. So it's killing off your bacteria.
But what people don't, you realize is wheat has never been non-GMO. They use glyphosate to kill it.
That is what they used as a desiccant at the end of the season to avoid the snow coming too soon.
they end the wheat harvest early by covering it in glyphosate so it's not GMO because then they want it to
die and so the last step of wheat production and garbanzum these things is to cover it in this deadly
toxin that is now winning multi-billion dollar lawsuits for causing non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and it's all
over and then you get bred and say oh good non-gmo when the opposite in fact you'd be better off
i think if it said GMO you're like under those circumstances and it's like
The other thing is you then take that wheat that the stalks once you harvest and you take it down to a city and turn it into biofuel.
So you're getting glyphysate into biofuel as well.
We're getting it from you so how do we so we protect ourselves organic diet.
Yes.
So organic diet.
I love sunshine.
I think get out in the sunlight without sunscreen and without sunglasses.
The vitamin D is very healing.
Yes.
And it's not just vitamin D, but vitamin D is super important.
And they've shown in studies, you know, 90%.
Something like 90% of the people who have who die from severe COVID are vitamin D deficient. So I think it's a very important thing to make sure you keep your vitamin D levels high, but also sunlight for other reasons. So not just taking a vitamin D supplement, but getting out in the sun, I think is much better. And then I I like soaking in Epsom salt baths because that's going to get you sulfates, uh, sulfate through the skin. A lot of people have sulfur sensitivity problems and that's because glyphosate messes up the sulfur system. And so sulfur becomes toxic.
and they can't handle it. So they don't eat sulfur-containing foods, and they get a systemic
sulfate deficiency problem. I think that is a basis of many of the diseases that we're facing
today in our society, insufficient sulfate. And that's also connected to an inability to clear
cellular debris, which is where the prion problem comes in, because you can't clear those prion
proteins once they misfold if your lysosomes, lysosomes aren't working. And that can be because
of insufficient sulfate. So how do I get solar? Is there food? What foods, what do we think of
sulfur rich foods.
Cruciferous vegetables like cauliflower and broccoli and cabbage and Brussels sprouts.
And then garlic and onions.
Those are fantastic.
Garlic and onions and then lots of animal based foods.
Certainly seafood, eggs, organic eggs.
Cheese is good.
Cheese has sulfur and meats, you know, grass-fed beef, fish.
And I mentioned seafood already, but seafood and fish.
and eggs and meat.
Yeah, those are all good sources of sulfur.
All right.
Fantastic.
Stephanie, it's always a journey with you to, you know, get inside of that mind of
yours.
It is so incredible what you're looking at.
I know these are exciting times.
You're working with amazing people.
And I would imagine there's these times where you just see how incredibly complex.
And when you start unraveling what's happening here, there must just be a dual
emotion, the excitement of her discovering it and figuring it out, and then realizing you're
talking about our species and our species, you know, how concerned are you about the billions of
people? I mean, you said in your conclusion, this is literally, these are issues that could affect
billions of people on the planet. Absolutely. And I do worry about reproduction. We didn't
talk much about reproduction in our book, but I think that's in our article, but I think it is
likely that these vaccines are going to mess up the reproductive system and cause infertility
in the children, especially that are getting vaccinated. I think it's a really, really dangerous
thing that we're doing. So I expect that we're going to have a significant job in our population.
If your goal is, you know, trying to get rid of people, it's going to work well, unfortunately,
to reduce the population. All right. Well, Stephanie, thank you. Keep up the good work and we'll
look for your future papers and every one of your paper, those papers will be on a way.
website and check out Stephanie's book, Toxic Legacy. You're doing such incredibly important work.
It's just great to be able to reach out to you and give this information. So thank you for taking
the time today. Thank you so much. My pleasure. All right. We'll talk to you soon.
