The Highwire with Del Bigtree - NATURAL IMMUNITY TO COVID PROVEN SUPERIOR TO VACCINE IMMUNITY

Episode Date: March 12, 2023

As masks, lockdowns, and COVID shots are being seen for how truly ineffective they each were, it’s natural immunity’s turn to be recognized after years of censorship. As legacy media races to act ...like they are breaking a new story, many know all along the power of natural immunity.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We just reported on this for about a couple weeks ago. The masks are essentially useless. They don't do much. And that was a big study that came out, a meta-analysis by the Cochrane collaboration. It looked at all the studies. It incorporated the new COVID studies in there looking at that SARS-CoV-2. And the world is kind of just sitting with that.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Wow, these masks didn't work. And now the headlines are looking like this as it really saturates into the public consciousness. The mask mandates did nothing. This is New York Times. Will any lessons be learned? I mean, that's incredible. New York Times, the fact that they're running that headline, one of the greatest, you know, arbiters and propagators of mask mythology is now, you know, has a headline admitting they did nothing. So, I mean, look, we've come a long way. I'm glad you're waking up, New York Times.
Starting point is 00:00:45 How about an apology? How about like a straight up apology for the attacks on everybody's sensibility and critical thinking? Incredible times. And so masks weren't doing anything. Lockdowns hurt people. The vaccines didn't stop infection. So we have one lone soldier still standing there and that's natural immunity. So let's talk about that and let's unpack that. So natural immunity from as early as 2020, October of 2020, the Lancet published this paper, scientific consensus. Careful moving forward. Anytime we hear science consensus, we should now as a public be very concerned.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Scientific consensus on the COVID-19 pandemic. We need to act now. This is also called the John Snow Memorandum. And just like the lab leak theory, they tried to, you know, they didn't. go so far as to say this was conspiracy theory but they did say this and rachel wilinski signed her name onto this is the cdc director she says furthermore there is no evidence for lasting protective immunity to SARS cobi two following natural infection and the endemic transmission that would be the consequence of waning immunity would present a risk to vulnerable populations for the indefinite
Starting point is 00:01:49 future wow now let's look that lancet paper again just like the lab leak theory calling people conspiracy theorists if they question the origins ran cover for the media and the fact checkers and the social media platforms, the de-platform people, and it allowed them to write these type of articles. So this was still at that time in 2020. This was USA Today. Fact check, it says, COVID-19 vaccines provide safer, more consistent immunity than infection.
Starting point is 00:02:16 And again, if you say something different, we're gonna censor you. Now this is Mother Jones. Couldn't have got it more wrong. Anti-vaxxers have a dangerous theory called natural immunity. Now it's going mainstream. And it says here, the experts I talk to weren't at all surprised to see these discredited ideas making the rounds. They've seen them before in the anti-vaccination in extreme holistic medicine communities.
Starting point is 00:02:38 This is the coronavirus edition of their pervasive belief in natural immunity. Rapali Lamei, a John Hopkins epidemiologist who has studied the movement against mandatory vaccines, told me we have heard from those that are concerned about vaccines, the argument that they prefer to allow their immune system to be naturally exposed to a specific pathogen to gain immunity. She wrote to me in an email. It's a spinoff of previous theories we've seen, concurred Omar, who has written extensively about the anti-vaccination groups. This is all the usual stuff. It's amazing they're calling natural immunity a theory. First of all, why are you making vaccines? The entire concept of a vaccine is to mimic natural infection. You've never achieved it.
Starting point is 00:03:21 You've never mimicked it as well as what it does. But why would you even have a concept of a vaccine, you're trying to achieve what immunity is, you know, incurred once you come in contact with the virus. It's absolutely insane that they're calling that a theory. That is proven facts since the dawn of man. Absolutely. And so this was the type of adversarial one-sided reporting that the public was up against trying to really make heads or tails in the middle of this pandemic response, locking them down, putting masks on them. And just to remind people, we were there every step of the way pointing out every one of these studies, the moment they were, published, we went to air and it looked like this.
Starting point is 00:03:59 All right. The most vaccinated country in the world, this is Israel. They were going to be the test bed for vaccine herd immunity. Now it's saying this is a Jerusalem post, Israel probably won't reach herd immunity. Maybe, just maybe it doesn't last as long as the studies are showing that natural immunity lasts. Wow. So it, so shockingly, it follows the pattern of every natural virus we've studied since the dawn of man. Natural immunity after COVID-19 found durable and robust.
Starting point is 00:04:26 says here, this new study shows that most convalescent COVID-19 patients, Mount durable antibodies B cells and T cells specific for SARS-CoV to up to 250 days. Much like a lot of the studies that we have found on natural immunity, like this study, it only persisted to the eight to nine-month period because that's as far as the study went out to. So this is a longitudinal study, so it's going to go up to two years. So there's going to be updates on this that we'll cover here. Natural immunity is our way out of the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:04:58 The vaccines do not stop infection and transmission of this virus. And once you recognize that, then the argument, well, you should get vaccinated for the sake of other people, just falls apart. Previous Amacrimed BA1 infection alone was the single most protective factor against BA2 reinfection, risk reduction of 72%. So here we're seeing natural immunity better than three RNA doses.
Starting point is 00:05:22 That's two primaries and a booster. Natural immunity may be either more robust, more durable, or both in comparison to vaccine-induced immunity against the Omicron variant, leading to negative vaccine efficacy over time. It's like blaming the placebo for being too strong. Well, perhaps it's because natural immunity was so effective that it's making our vaccine look even worse. I mean, this is a report that's never been confusing for me, Jeffrey. I always felt very safe in this space because, you know, as you know, we've been investigating vaccines, you know, since, you know, early 2017 when we started this show. And as I've said before, I mean, the one thing
Starting point is 00:06:02 we know is no vaccine has ever achieved what natural infection achieves as far as immunity. That is just simply the stated fact. Never, ever has been possible. And so when they started stating that the vaccine is more effective than natural immunity, it would have been the first time in history. And to think that you achieved it with the most rushed vaccine that you ever had, failed in every animal trial up until this moment and suddenly you've achieved, you know, the speed of light, something you've never had before, by accident, I guess, by, it was rushing is what we always need to do. We just needed to rush faster and then we've got it. It made absolutely no sense. And I had a great conversation with Ryan Cole recently. We were both
Starting point is 00:06:47 speaking in an event. And he said something to the fact that really stuck with me. And, you know, he said, you know, outrageous claims were, you know, extreme claims. demand extreme evidence. And I think about that. To be claiming this vaccine was better than natural immunity was a really incredible claim, which would mean you would need some really incredible evidence because that would be rewriting science as we know it
Starting point is 00:07:15 up until this point, literally from the beginning of vaccines over 100 years ago, to now you've never achieved that. You better be able to prove that. And now, as we've, you know, broken down the start science and it's all comes crumbling down we realized they were nowhere even close they never even attempted to prove any such thing but right as we as we and other people were there reporting this and it was an easy report because like you said this is not this is not rocket science or science it's just known we had i can we had the attorneys uh an informed consent action network writing legal
Starting point is 00:07:49 demands here's in 2021 i can demands that cal osha recognized natural immunity another one i can eviscerate CDC and formal exchange regarding national immunity. Another one, I can demand CDC authors withdraw rigged natural immunity study. We're hitting them from all angles. And now we have the headlines. Now the headlines are starting to make some sense and look rational. NBC News, let's check this one out. Immunity acquired from a COVID infection is as protective as vaccination against severe illness and disease study finds. USA News study natural immunity from COVID-19 infection provides high protection against severe disease. And what are they quoting? They're quoting this study from the Lancet. Past SARS-CoV-2 infection, protection against reinfection is systemic review and meta-analysis.
Starting point is 00:08:33 They looked at all the papers, everything that's out there they could find, and they wrote this. Past COVID-19 infection against re-infection, symptomatic disease, and severe disease for ancestral alpha, delta or Omicron, BA-1 variants appears to be at least as protective as two-dose vaccination with MRI vaccines for all vaccines and outcomes. And it also goes on to say, protection from severe disease was high for all variants. So at least it's protective. But now, Delle, this is where the study, there's a little spike in this study. And people need to know this.
Starting point is 00:09:03 So when they're, there's hailing this study and showing this and saying this will be, this will lead us through COVID and light the way. Never to happen again. We're safe. We've proved it. Right. Yep. Never going to happen again.
Starting point is 00:09:14 You see this sentence right at the beginning of the study. The immunity conferred says by past infection should be weighed alongside protection from vaccination when assessing future disease burden from COVID-19, providing guidance on when individuals should be vaccinated. And get this. And designing policies that mandate vaccines for workers or restrict access on the basis of immune status to settings where the risk of transmission is high, such as travel and high occupancy, indoor settings.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Wait a minute. I thought we weren't mandating these vaccinations for workers or for kids or restricting access for people or cutting their travel benefits because. So this and also why are we trying to why are natural immunity? Why is it racing to try to catch up to the vaccine? Shouldn't the vaccine be trying to race and catch up to natural immunity? Let's look at this graph from the study just to show exactly what they're talking about here. You can see at the top that's past infection, that's just shooting straight across. That's your protection from that's your protection from past infection. That's your natural immunity. And you can see it starts to wane just a little bit in 60 weeks. The rest of these are. Moderna, Pfizer, Pfizer plus booster, Pfizer plus Astrozenica booster, just falling right off the They're saying is as good as vaccination like that. That's the look of is as good as or maybe potentially better. How about clearly longer lasting more robust? And the best we're getting out of that is, yeah, they're running neck and neck.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Exactly. And so, wow, why would the authors do that? Why? I love to go over these people to a horse race or something, man. You know, just bet them personally. However you're seeing it, I'll take it. I'll take $5 on that bet. Exactly. Well, let's look at some of the people that funded this study. And we don't have to look very far. It says it right there. Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Jay Stratton, T.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Jealapie and J.E. Nordstrom. So Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, now the University of Washington, that's the IHME. And that is where that this kind of duplicitous language probably is coming from. Because in order to get funding like that, you probably got to put some language in there like that. But remember, too. So the other point of this whole conversation, okay, it's admitted, natural immunity is great,
Starting point is 00:11:28 is I guess just as effective as the vaccine we're being told. Remember all of those people that were denied the natural immunity for their jobs. Remember these headlines. This is way back in 2020, 2021. No proof of previous, no proof of previous COVID infection cannot be used to get around a vaccine mandate. Another one, U.S. judge upholds COVID-19 requirement for those with, natural immunity. And this one, this is a great one in New York City. Hundreds more New York City teachers AIDS fired for not complying with COVID-19 vaccine mandate. So let's fast forward to present
Starting point is 00:12:00 day. This is what happened to those teachers. New York City teachers who refuse COVID vaccine slap with scarlet letter in their personal files according to a lawyer. It says the city department of education put a special code indicating wrongdoing the files of the terminated workers. The employees personal files shows a generic problem code that could just as easily be for committing a crime as declining to take a vaccine for religious reasons. In some instances, when plaintiffs tried to obtain employment elsewhere, they were told that they were red flagged because of the problem code. And in New York, we have Eric Adams, their mayor.
Starting point is 00:12:30 He has lifted the COVID vaccine mandate for New York City workers, but they're not hiring the people back. What about the 1,780 fired? They're not getting their jobs back. And so that's the type of damage that accepting this idea, this ridiculous idea that natural immunity has no place in this conversation does. But perhaps no one put it better than Bill Marges recently. He saw this study, and this is what he had to say about it.
Starting point is 00:12:54 All right. As I saw on the paper today, kind of a big story, I think. I wonder how much it's going to get covered in the liberal media, because it's about how natural immunity, they did a giant study, 65 countries, or maybe something like 65 countries, many, many different studies. They looked at them all. Natural immunity, as good or better than the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Something I've been saying since the beginning, and I get called an anti-vaxxer. That's not an anti-vaxxer. This is the kind of thing. My problem with the media from both sides is not that you guys lie. It's that you tell me your side of the story that you want me to know.
Starting point is 00:13:31 You don't tell me the whole story. I'd be curious as to how much play this story gets because I remember reading that they did a study of Republicans versus Democrats. The question was, what percentage? This is like a year and a half, What percentage of people who get COVID require hospitalization?
Starting point is 00:13:52 The answer is less than 1%. Almost half of Democrats thought it was over 50%. They listened to your network. Where do they get that kind of information? That was to you. That was clearly. I clearly not wanted to answer that question. Talk about putting screws to them, though.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Well done, Bill. Love it.

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