The Highwire with Del Bigtree - NATURAL IMMUNITY TO COVID PROVEN SUPERIOR TO VACCINE IMMUNITY
Episode Date: March 12, 2023As masks, lockdowns, and COVID shots are being seen for how truly ineffective they each were, it’s natural immunity’s turn to be recognized after years of censorship. As legacy media races to act ...like they are breaking a new story, many know all along the power of natural immunity.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.
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We just reported on this for about a couple weeks ago.
The masks are essentially useless.
They don't do much.
And that was a big study that came out,
a meta-analysis by the Cochrane collaboration.
It looked at all the studies.
It incorporated the new COVID studies in there looking at that SARS-CoV-2.
And the world is kind of just sitting with that.
Wow, these masks didn't work.
And now the headlines are looking like this as it really saturates into the public consciousness.
The mask mandates did nothing.
This is New York Times.
Will any lessons be learned?
I mean, that's incredible.
New York Times, the fact that they're running that headline, one of the greatest, you know, arbiters and propagators of mask mythology is now, you know, has a headline admitting they did nothing.
So, I mean, look, we've come a long way. I'm glad you're waking up, New York Times.
How about an apology? How about like a straight up apology for the attacks on everybody's sensibility and critical thinking?
Incredible times. And so masks weren't doing anything. Lockdowns hurt people. The vaccines didn't stop infection.
So we have one lone soldier still standing there and that's natural immunity.
So let's talk about that and let's unpack that.
So natural immunity from as early as 2020, October of 2020, the Lancet published this paper,
scientific consensus.
Careful moving forward.
Anytime we hear science consensus, we should now as a public be very concerned.
Scientific consensus on the COVID-19 pandemic.
We need to act now.
This is also called the John Snow Memorandum.
And just like the lab leak theory, they tried to, you know, they didn't.
go so far as to say this was conspiracy theory but they did say this and rachel wilinski signed her name
onto this is the cdc director she says furthermore there is no evidence for lasting protective
immunity to SARS cobi two following natural infection and the endemic transmission that would be
the consequence of waning immunity would present a risk to vulnerable populations for the indefinite
future wow now let's look that lancet paper again just like the lab leak theory calling people
conspiracy theorists if they question the origins ran cover for the media
and the fact checkers and the social media platforms,
the de-platform people,
and it allowed them to write these type of articles.
So this was still at that time in 2020.
This was USA Today. Fact check, it says, COVID-19 vaccines
provide safer, more consistent immunity than infection.
And again, if you say something different,
we're gonna censor you.
Now this is Mother Jones. Couldn't have got it more wrong.
Anti-vaxxers have a dangerous theory called natural immunity.
Now it's going mainstream.
And it says here, the experts I talk to
weren't at all surprised to see these discredited ideas making the rounds.
They've seen them before in the anti-vaccination in extreme holistic medicine communities.
This is the coronavirus edition of their pervasive belief in natural immunity.
Rapali Lamei, a John Hopkins epidemiologist who has studied the movement against mandatory vaccines,
told me we have heard from those that are concerned about vaccines,
the argument that they prefer to allow their immune system to be naturally exposed to a specific
pathogen to gain immunity. She wrote to me in an email. It's a spinoff of previous theories we've
seen, concurred Omar, who has written extensively about the anti-vaccination groups. This is all the
usual stuff. It's amazing they're calling natural immunity a theory. First of all, why are you making
vaccines? The entire concept of a vaccine is to mimic natural infection. You've never achieved it.
You've never mimicked it as well as what it does. But why would you even have a concept of a vaccine,
you're trying to achieve what immunity is, you know, incurred once you come in contact with
the virus. It's absolutely insane that they're calling that a theory. That is proven facts
since the dawn of man. Absolutely. And so this was the type of adversarial one-sided reporting
that the public was up against trying to really make heads or tails in the middle of this
pandemic response, locking them down, putting masks on them. And just to remind people, we were there
every step of the way pointing out every one of these studies, the moment they were,
published, we went to air and it looked like this.
All right.
The most vaccinated country in the world, this is Israel.
They were going to be the test bed for vaccine herd immunity.
Now it's saying this is a Jerusalem post, Israel probably won't reach herd immunity.
Maybe, just maybe it doesn't last as long as the studies are showing that natural immunity lasts.
Wow.
So it, so shockingly, it follows the pattern of every natural virus we've studied since the dawn of man.
Natural immunity after COVID-19 found durable and robust.
says here, this new study shows that most convalescent COVID-19 patients, Mount durable antibodies
B cells and T cells specific for SARS-CoV to up to 250 days.
Much like a lot of the studies that we have found on natural immunity, like this study,
it only persisted to the eight to nine-month period because that's as far as the study went
out to.
So this is a longitudinal study, so it's going to go up to two years.
So there's going to be updates on this that we'll cover here.
Natural immunity is our way out of the pandemic.
The vaccines do not stop infection and transmission of this virus.
And once you recognize that, then the argument,
well, you should get vaccinated for the sake of other people,
just falls apart.
Previous Amacrimed BA1 infection alone
was the single most protective factor
against BA2 reinfection, risk reduction of 72%.
So here we're seeing natural immunity better than three RNA doses.
That's two primaries and a booster.
Natural immunity may be either more robust, more durable, or both in comparison to vaccine-induced immunity against the Omicron variant,
leading to negative vaccine efficacy over time.
It's like blaming the placebo for being too strong.
Well, perhaps it's because natural immunity was so effective that it's making our vaccine look even worse.
I mean, this is a report that's never been confusing for me, Jeffrey.
I always felt very safe in this space because, you know, as you know, we've been investigating vaccines, you know, since,
you know, early 2017 when we started this show. And as I've said before, I mean, the one thing
we know is no vaccine has ever achieved what natural infection achieves as far as immunity.
That is just simply the stated fact. Never, ever has been possible. And so when they started
stating that the vaccine is more effective than natural immunity, it would have been the first
time in history. And to think that you achieved it with the most rushed vaccine that you ever had,
failed in every animal trial up until this moment and suddenly you've achieved, you know,
the speed of light, something you've never had before, by accident, I guess, by, it was rushing
is what we always need to do. We just needed to rush faster and then we've got it. It made
absolutely no sense. And I had a great conversation with Ryan Cole recently. We were both
speaking in an event. And he said something to the fact that really stuck with me. And, you know,
he said, you know, outrageous claims were, you know, extreme claims.
demand extreme evidence.
And I think about that.
To be claiming this vaccine was better than natural immunity
was a really incredible claim,
which would mean you would need some really incredible evidence
because that would be rewriting science as we know it
up until this point, literally from the beginning of vaccines
over 100 years ago, to now you've never achieved that.
You better be able to prove that.
And now, as we've, you know, broken down the start
science and it's all comes crumbling down we realized they were nowhere even close they never even
attempted to prove any such thing but right as we as we and other people were there reporting this
and it was an easy report because like you said this is not this is not rocket science or science
it's just known we had i can we had the attorneys uh an informed consent action network writing legal
demands here's in 2021 i can demands that cal osha recognized natural immunity another one i can eviscerate
CDC and formal exchange regarding national immunity. Another one, I can demand CDC authors withdraw
rigged natural immunity study. We're hitting them from all angles. And now we have the headlines.
Now the headlines are starting to make some sense and look rational. NBC News, let's check this
one out. Immunity acquired from a COVID infection is as protective as vaccination against severe illness
and disease study finds. USA News study natural immunity from COVID-19 infection provides high
protection against severe disease. And what are they quoting? They're quoting this study from the
Lancet. Past SARS-CoV-2 infection, protection against reinfection is systemic review and meta-analysis.
They looked at all the papers, everything that's out there they could find, and they wrote this.
Past COVID-19 infection against re-infection, symptomatic disease, and severe disease for ancestral
alpha, delta or Omicron, BA-1 variants appears to be at least as protective as two-dose vaccination
with MRI vaccines for all vaccines and outcomes. And it also goes on to say,
protection from severe disease was high for all variants.
So at least it's protective.
But now, Delle, this is where the study, there's a little spike in this study.
And people need to know this.
So when they're, there's hailing this study and showing this and saying this will be,
this will lead us through COVID and light the way.
Never to happen again.
We're safe.
We've proved it.
Right.
Yep.
Never going to happen again.
You see this sentence right at the beginning of the study.
The immunity conferred says by past infection should be weighed alongside
protection from vaccination when assessing future disease burden from COVID-19, providing guidance
on when individuals should be vaccinated.
And get this.
And designing policies that mandate vaccines for workers or restrict access on the basis of immune
status to settings where the risk of transmission is high, such as travel and high occupancy,
indoor settings.
Wait a minute.
I thought we weren't mandating these vaccinations for workers or for kids or restricting access
for people or cutting their travel benefits because.
So this and also why are we trying to why are natural immunity? Why is it racing to try to catch up to the vaccine?
Shouldn't the vaccine be trying to race and catch up to natural immunity? Let's look at this graph from the study just to show exactly what they're talking about here. You can see at the top that's past infection, that's just shooting straight across. That's your protection from that's your protection from past infection. That's your natural immunity. And you can see it starts to wane just a little bit in 60 weeks. The rest of these are.
Moderna, Pfizer, Pfizer plus booster, Pfizer plus Astrozenica booster, just falling right off the
They're saying is as good as vaccination like that. That's the look of is as good as or maybe potentially better.
How about clearly longer lasting more robust? And the best we're getting out of that is, yeah, they're running neck and neck.
Exactly. And so, wow, why would the authors do that? Why? I love to go over these people to a horse race or something, man. You know, just bet them personally.
However you're seeing it, I'll take it.
I'll take $5 on that bet.
Exactly.
Well, let's look at some of the people that funded this study.
And we don't have to look very far.
It says it right there.
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Jay Stratton, T.
Jealapie and J.E. Nordstrom.
So Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation,
now the University of Washington, that's the IHME.
And that is where that this kind of duplicitous language probably is coming from.
Because in order to get funding like that,
you probably got to put some language in there like that.
But remember, too.
So the other point of this whole conversation, okay, it's admitted, natural immunity is great,
is I guess just as effective as the vaccine we're being told.
Remember all of those people that were denied the natural immunity for their jobs.
Remember these headlines.
This is way back in 2020, 2021.
No proof of previous, no proof of previous COVID infection cannot be used to get around a vaccine mandate.
Another one, U.S. judge upholds COVID-19 requirement for those with,
natural immunity. And this one, this is a great one in New York City. Hundreds more New York City
teachers AIDS fired for not complying with COVID-19 vaccine mandate. So let's fast forward to present
day. This is what happened to those teachers. New York City teachers who refuse COVID vaccine
slap with scarlet letter in their personal files according to a lawyer. It says the city department
of education put a special code indicating wrongdoing the files of the terminated workers. The employees
personal files shows a generic problem code that could just as easily be for committing a crime
as declining to take a vaccine for religious reasons.
In some instances, when plaintiffs tried to obtain employment elsewhere,
they were told that they were red flagged because of the problem code.
And in New York, we have Eric Adams, their mayor.
He has lifted the COVID vaccine mandate for New York City workers,
but they're not hiring the people back.
What about the 1,780 fired?
They're not getting their jobs back.
And so that's the type of damage that accepting this idea,
this ridiculous idea that natural immunity has no place in this conversation does.
But perhaps no one put it better than Bill Marges recently.
He saw this study, and this is what he had to say about it.
All right.
As I saw on the paper today, kind of a big story, I think.
I wonder how much it's going to get covered in the liberal media,
because it's about how natural immunity, they did a giant study,
65 countries, or maybe something like 65 countries,
many, many different studies.
They looked at them all.
Natural immunity, as good or better than the vaccine.
Something I've been saying since the beginning,
and I get called an anti-vaxxer.
That's not an anti-vaxxer.
This is the kind of thing.
My problem with the media from both sides
is not that you guys lie.
It's that you tell me your side of the story
that you want me to know.
You don't tell me the whole story.
I'd be curious as to how much play this story gets
because I remember reading
that they did a study of Republicans
versus Democrats.
The question was, what percentage?
This is like a year and a half,
What percentage of people who get COVID require hospitalization?
The answer is less than 1%.
Almost half of Democrats thought it was over 50%.
They listened to your network.
Where do they get that kind of information?
That was to you.
That was clearly.
I clearly not wanted to answer that question.
Talk about putting screws to them, though.
Well done, Bill.
Love it.
