The Highwire with Del Bigtree - NEVER AGAIN

Episode Date: January 27, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:51 you are out there in the world, it's time for us all to step out onto the high wire. Well, you've been tuning to this show, you know, I'm busy. I've been flying all over. I had an awesome event yesterday here at the Austin Capitol. Great turnout speaking about medical freedom. So many politicians showing up and talking about how they now stand for freedom of choice, how they beat back the COVID vaccine mandates here in Texas. And I made sure that they did not forget that this has never been about the COVID vaccine. I didn't come here in 2019 to protest the COVID-19 vaccines. We were protesting the mandates of all vaccines.
Starting point is 00:01:29 And so we're going to push the state capital gear, as I hope all of you will be pushing your state capitals to look at this COVID disaster and use it to say never again. This can never, ever happen again, and it only happens in a country that allows mandated vaccine programs. We must always have choice, something I think we should all stand up for. Some great news breaking out of California, too. I want to hit very quickly.
Starting point is 00:01:55 First of all, we know that the judge has blocked the California's COVID-19 misinformation law. This is a case that was brought by several doctors and scientists that have appeared here on the high wire. Remember, this was a law that would basically go after doctors that were speaking truth about the COVID-19 vaccines. They could lose their license. That has now been put on pause. So it's a huge development. Great work for everybody working on that case. And also, San Diego, the city council, has now dropped their vaccine mandate.
Starting point is 00:02:29 The sun sets on the COVID-19 emergency. The city employee-vax mandate is dead. This is a case. I think this came about because of a case by Amy Bond and Perk, a group that ICAN aligns with a lot. We've had her on the show talking about this case. And remember, we also brought pressure to San Diego when we struck. down their school mandate. This was back in December of 20, December 2020, 21, Judge Rules Against San Diego's Unified COVID-19 student vaccine mandate. All of this shows what a difference
Starting point is 00:03:04 we are making in the world, how the times are changing. And it's all because people like you that watch shows like this are helping fund our work. You're helping fund perks work. And all of these other great lawsuits, we are using the court. to really make a difference. And I don't think that is the only approach. I still think that this is about the court of public opinion. That's why I think this work we do at the high wire is so important. It's only because the pressure of what's happening in society that we see these changes happening in
Starting point is 00:03:34 courtrooms and then hopefully with legislators as we move into the future. Very, very exciting times. But for every action, as Newton said, there is an equal and opposite reaction. So though there's great news to be talking about happening around the country, and around the world. There's also the darkness, the dark side of propaganda and what people will do when they lose their humanity. This is a story that started with an Elon Musk tweet. It looked like this. He tweeted out, I had major side effects for my second booster shot. Felt like I was dying for several days. Hopefully no permanent damage, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Now, many of you remember the story of Angelia Dasell, who came on our show with two other nurses and medical specialists, they had taken the vaccine, were all suffering similar reactions, which was causing these body tremors to happen. So she responded to that tweet, and this is what she tweeted. She wrote, this is me after one dose of Pfizer on 1-5-2021 in the hospital. I was a very healthy, 45-year-old who managed a surgery center. Two years later, I'm still having major issues. Well, because of this, there was a Twitter storm went off. This went so viral. It was incredible. Here's a couple of the headlines that jumped on board with what really ended up being an attack on Angelia. This was at Thanks, Pfizer. She had written Thanks Pfizer. Hashtack
Starting point is 00:05:07 Thanks, Pfizer. So this was the evening standard. Thanks, Pfizer. False COVID vaccine tremor claims spread on social media. Another headline from Forbes gets in on the action. Thanks Pfizer memes, trend after videos tried to blame shaking on COVID-19 vaccines. And then Forbes, how a thanks, Pfizer, COVID misinformation meme went viral. Twitter users quickly turned these fake vaccine side effects into a meme, many tweets, some simply captioned, thanks Pfizer, the captioned from a widely derided Twitter video by Angelia Ducel labeled as misinformation that has been viewed more than 23 million.
Starting point is 00:05:46 times show a video like Steve Carroll's character from the office doing a bizarre dance or duelipa simply swaying side to side, garnering millions of views and hundreds of thousands of likes this week. Folks, this is this what we're about to show you, I think, is as disgusting a display by humanity as could possibly happen. Just take a look at this. I've been seeing a lot of memes going around. Like, I don't really get it. You know, I got my Pfizer the other And like, you know, I've been feeling fine. Like, I haven't had any sort of problems. Nothing's really been wrong or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:06:22 You know, for the most part, I felt, I mean, I felt like a little strange sometimes. You know, it's not a big deal. Father forgive them for they know not what they do. I think these are those moments where we have to forgive people whose intelligence maybe is been damaged by the vaccine, I suppose, itself. I know they somehow think this is okay. but it is really horrific to think and know Angelina and what she's been through and people like her that are being denied any recourse. But it wasn't just citizens that get on in this.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Even corporation jumped in. Duolingo decided this is a language company got to jump in on this using their own mascot to make fun of this tremor situation. And if you look, they put out basically, I can't stop twerking. this sentence, they write a sentence in Spanish, and if you use the software, it says twerking is not a side effect. So to just sort of revisit this story, Angelia was on our show, and along with others, as I said, and this is what we broke as a story about what this vaccine can do to you, take a look. I managed the surgery center, and my parents are,
Starting point is 00:08:23 not in the best of health, especially my mom. Being exposed to COVID as often as I was, I did not want to be the one to give my mother COVID and possibly it not turn out good. But I took my lunch break on January the 5th, and I drove myself to get my first injection. I took mine the first day it was rolled out in my state for healthcare workers.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And then Saturday morning I got up and I could not use either of my legs. And it eventually, followed by full body convulsions about two hours later. My husband took me to the ER and from there I was transported over to the hospital and as soon as I got into my room physician come in a hospitalist and he said, Mr. Sell, I heard you were coming. I know what's going on. I know this is the vaccine and we are going to do research until we figure it out. I never saw that doctor again. You know, you try,
Starting point is 00:09:23 the medical industry to help you. And at the end of the day, when there's no help, you just sit back and wonder why. I didn't do any research, and that's totally my fault. You know, I just trusted what I was told by our leadership. They're pushing this vaccine and they don't want to see people like us. They want to cover it up. And we are completely being left behind.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Well, I can tell you honestly, when we were working on doing that show and we did backstories with Angelia and her friends that were involved in this entire situation flying them out ended up stressing many of them were starting to recover and I have to say just bringing them to the studio we'd wondered if we had done the right thing some of their you know shaking was coming back and you know they really were so courageous and wanted to tell their story but just you can see right there just the stress of travel what was going on folks This isn't a joke. It is real. And I want to say that, you know, this is the type of dissent that happens in humanity when we really lose our way.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And, you know, coming up later on in the show, I'm going to be speaking to Holocaust by Rivera-Sarab, who's going to talk about the stages of the Holocaust and how the Holocaust does not just start with Auschwitz. It starts with dehumanization. In fact, if you go to the memorial, site. This is from the Holocaust Memorial Day Trust. They have the 10 stages of genocide. The fourth stage is this one right here. Dehumanization is the fourth stage. And remember, one of the first things that they did in Nazi Germany before they came after the Jews and all that we know there, they went after the handicapped and those who had physical issues. So, you know, I want to dive into this with the person that finds herself in the middle of it. I am joined right now by Angelia Dasell. First of all, I want to just say I'm sorry. On behalf of those in humanity that have lost their way, I want to apologize. It's not what you would imagine,
Starting point is 00:11:37 with all the courage that you had coming forward. I know you imagined there would be some pushback from the drug companies and maybe the government that was pushing this. But what does it feel like to see young people and other doctors and things making TikTok videos and what has this experience been like? It's been very hard.
Starting point is 00:12:01 To have my real life events made fun of, you know, I can't help to sit here and think. What if this was you or your daughter or your mother or your wife? You wouldn't be making fun of that. Yeah. Now, your video, they said in the articles had, or the tweet had 23 million views. It's now over 70 million views in climbing. And I want to say that, and I want to point this out, because I'm someone that really has used a lot of negative press and energy towards me as momentum.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And I have said from the beginning there's no such thing as bad press. I really want to remind you that, though I know what this seems to be about is a lot of people attacking you, You are with over 70 million views, I assure you, and because it's so vile what's happening, I think people that are watching it and feeling for you are afraid to make any statements because they don't want to be attacked too. But I believe amongst those 70 million and growing tens of millions of people are standing with you and are waking up to it and are thinking, I know a friend that's going through that.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Or maybe they're saying, I was having these issues and wondering how it started. So I just want to remind you that I think is important that we don't focus on the negative, though this has got to be very difficult. How, you know, when this sort of started taking off and all these headlines, what are the thoughts that run through your head? Do you think, what can I do about this? Actually, Dale, to be honest with you, I don't really get on Twitter that much. Someone had texted me and asked me if I had saw Elon Musk's tweet. Yeah. So I jumped right on board, you know, because it's very important for us injured to get these stories out there because there are millions suffering just like us.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah. And we try to bring them all together. And I put the tweet out. I had no idea what was the repercussion of that was going to even be. Yeah. And then the next morning I woke up to my phone blowing up and said, are you seeing what's happening? I was like, no.
Starting point is 00:14:25 You know, and then someone messaged me about this Alex guy. I didn't even know who Alex was. I had to Google him. Well, let's get you that for a second. This is Alex Barrensen, folks, for many of you that watch this show. We have quoted some of the work that he's done. Former, I believe his New York Times reporter, lost his job. And has been speaking out on the problems with the COVID vaccine,
Starting point is 00:14:50 really tried to claim this is his territory. We've never had him on the show. We've asked. He doesn't want to work with us. And now, unfortunately, what's really weird, and I'm glad to hear you don't know who he is, but he'd be someone that many in our movement that watch this show, that watched your story,
Starting point is 00:15:09 would have looked up to prior to now. And instead, this is what he tweeted out. These shake videos are the long COVID of the anti-MRNA movement, and equally credible. Meaning he doesn't believe in long COVID. He thinks it's all a lie. These people are making this stuff up.
Starting point is 00:15:26 The biggest difference is that the middle-aged ladies in them, meaning you and others that have their videos out there that are suffering from in this, the middle-aged ladies in them are conservatives and not wokesters. So I guess what he's saying is the wokesters are lying about their long COVID, and the conservatives are lying about shaking on having transgender. from the vaccine. Let me just take a moment to speak to Alex for a second, who there's been times when I've respected your reporting, but I think in this case, it's really sad to imagine someone that was trying to stand up for what good reporting should be would be so absent from actual research,
Starting point is 00:16:11 Alex. This is a disgusting display to jump on board with this level of attack on a human being that's going through this, and then to do no research. And so if you're saying it's being made up, I reached out to Angelia and said, could we see, if you've made this up, then there wouldn't be medical reports. There are. This is the MRI that she got back
Starting point is 00:16:35 that was looking at why am I having these tremors? In it says, here are the findings. On the flare and T2 sequence, there are a small foci of abnormal signal in the subcortical white matter in the inferior aspect of very. both frontal lobes. Another small lesion is seen in the high left frontal lobe. These lesions do not have massive factor enhanced and have the appearance of gliosis. So there are abnormalities on
Starting point is 00:17:01 Angelina's brain, Alex, which now you didn't argue, and I suppose someone could, is there proof that the vaccines cause this? But to say that this is being faked by a conservative for some conservative agenda, I also will want to remind you, this is Trump's vaccine. Trump, a conservative, I think, is who made this vaccine, rushed it on the market for everybody. So I don't even understand your connection. But there you have it. Your argument, suppose if it was necessary to try and inflate this level of attack, then at least say, you know, I question whether or not the vaccine is causing it.
Starting point is 00:17:39 But let me also say this. We got a report from one of Angelia's doctors, and they believe it's connected. This is that memo. And it says, do we have this blown up? All right, this, you guys are really challenging my eyesight. The patient's convulsion have improved with stem cell treatment, which she received in Kentucky. She has had profound neurologic adverse response to the COVID vaccine. Well, there you have it.
Starting point is 00:18:06 We have medical doctors that are working with Angelina that have made that connection or trying to help her through this. And so to all of those, you know, people out there, I think we have to have forgiveness for you because you are simple-minded. And, you know, obviously this is the problem with a herd mentality or group think, which is something our nation is suffering from right now. But there you have it. This is how journalism is done. How about a little bit of research? None of the articles written dealt with that. And in fact, they tried to even say that there was no VERS report.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Look at this article. They claimed the COVID-19 vaccine made them ill. Then they went viral. VERS data do not show any cases of adverse reaction. Louisiana in the last month whose symptoms resembled to cells. I'm not even going to the rest of this stupid article because we, you know, asked for Angelia's actual VERS report. And this is what it says.
Starting point is 00:19:05 This is her report sent to VERS. It's right there listed on the CDC. You can say seizure-like phenomena over there on, and it says tremor. I believe their articles went on to also say that they don't even, spasms and seizures are not even listed as either common side effects or adverse side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine, according to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention. We went to VERS again. We punched in the word tremor. For anyone that says that this isn't even being reported in Angelias all alone, symptoms, Trevor. Tremor, vaccine products, COVID-19 vaccine, 22,553 reports of people claiming they're suffering from tremors right after the COVID-19 vaccine or sometime after. There it is. And so this folks is the problem we have. It's your media is the problem. They are lying to you. These are propagandists and anyone that gets involved in this. I think you should think twice about ever listening to them again. When you look at this,
Starting point is 00:20:09 is someone that you grew up, you work in medicine, you work with the establishment to see this level of reporting. Did anyone call you to ask for medical records or anything like that while all of this, while they're writing articles about you? Only you got. Only we did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Don't you find that incredible? Isn't that incredible that they'll write entire articles with Forbes? Literally on the top corner there, you are working for an established newspaper. You are working for an established language translation. software company and you're not even going to reach out to the person themselves and see if they have a statement or any evidence of what is going on and to think that that's considered mainstream journalism. You know, I have your doctor that you're working with now who's a really great friend of this show, Dr. Pierre Corey. He got involved in this. He tweeted this.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Angelia is my patient and has endured endless suffering for over two years now, an amount of suffering, which most can barely imagine, although improving with treatment. What a tragic and damaging presence you have become with such an ignorant tweet, unfollow. This is him talking to Alex Berenson for putting that out. And then Alex actually responded to him. This is what he said, yeah, of course she's your patient. Glad you're unfollowing your promotion of the placebo known as Ivermectin at a time when an effective antiviral exists is repellent.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Adios. Well, folks, if you're watching the show, you can decide whether or not you ever want to listen to Alex Barrenson again. We have done extensive. There are now so many studies worldwide showing the importance of Ivermectin. Whether or not this guy was always on our side, whether he's playing both sides, or what actually motivates him beyond his own ego and desire to jump into the fray and kick someone when they're down.
Starting point is 00:22:02 It's a sad day for him. the New York Times, who I guess he once represented Forbes and all these other magazines. Angelio, tell me the process and what you've been through. And, you know, are you seeing, I know we've been checking in with you, are you seeing some relief? Well, Del, I have to say, I mean, I'm a strong believer in Ivermectin. You know that. We've had a follow-up on that.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So Ivermecton is even working in this post-vaccine-issue. because a lot of people only know it is protecting from COVID. You're using it to try and get over these tremors you're having from this vaccine reaction, correct? Yes, I've been on it for 20 months. And you're seeing a difference? I'm functioning. Okay. I don't know if I'll ever be cured.
Starting point is 00:22:50 You know, the videos that you guys saw, I was just like this again in December. I never know how I'm going to be from day to day, but I am functioning, and without it, things are not well. Okay. And we have Dr. Pierre Corey, who is racing to get to us between patients. Dr. Corey, first of all, I've always said it, you know, I consider you one of the great heroes out there. You have stood in the face of some real darkness, a lot of propaganda and lies. But this is a whole new low in my mind. You know, what are your thoughts on this?
Starting point is 00:23:29 It almost leaves me speechless. I mean, when are they going to stop? I mean, this is clearly, clearly to me, this, as you mentioned, this is clearly has all the hallmarks of propaganda. This is a narrative that's being generated, and there's a clear reason why they would want to do it. The scope and the scale of the vaccine tragedy, the millions of Americans injured and or dead from these vaccines, right, wouldn't it be convenient if we could somehow just dispel that and
Starting point is 00:23:58 sort of calm it down by really just characterizing these people as making it up, right? They're being gaslit. And that there is a long history of gaslighting in medicine when doctors use therapies that hurt patients, right? So now you have an entire medical system that has propagated and promoted the most toxic and lethal medical intervention in the history, leaving thousands to millions injured, right? And so wouldn't it be convenient to just make them go away? as, you know, people who fabricate this and are somehow looking for attention and sympathy. The opposite is true. And I got to, I got to tell you, I appreciate your segment for digging deep, looking at the data, what is real, is Angelia credible? There's enough medical evidence to show
Starting point is 00:24:44 what she's undergone the abnormalities. You know, a colleague of mine in the UK has been a great friend and Ria Healthop to helping Angelia. You know, I try, she became my patient not too long ago, And, you know, it's true. I mean, I use a lot of Ivermectin in vaccine injury. It's probably one of my most effective medicines. I use quite a few. But with Angelia, as she said, it made her functional. I mean, if you look at her history of where she started, she was so ill.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I mean, she was contorting and convulsing for hours a day at times with severe spasms. And by the way, Angeli is not unique. I have a large practice and I have numbers of patients with uncontrolled muscular movements, things called fasciculations and spasms, weakness, numbness, tingling. I mean, these videos are not like some, you know, coordinated, you know, program to somehow like dramatize this. You don't need to dramatize this. These people are sick.
Starting point is 00:25:44 But this narrative, and like you mentioned, it's Forbes. I hear it's Rolling Stone. And it has to stop. So thank you for setting the record straight. The idea that we have to come on and defend an illness. And the last thing I want to say, DEL, is, you know, when I see patients, I do long histories, comprehensive evaluations, the first 10 minutes of every one of my patient visits is them telling me, they're recounting me their journey through the health system.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Yeah. This gas lighting of this week, you know, using the media, totally mirrors the experience of my patients as they see specialists after specialists, referral after referral and test after the test. A lot of times the test are not very revealing for whatever reason this disease. And so the doctors conclude it's in their heads. they're crazy and the suffering that they have to undergo and then you throw on top of it, not only the ignoring of the extent of these injuries, but now the gaslighting of these injuries. And the plight of the vaccine injured is only getting worse.
Starting point is 00:26:41 And we should be making it better. We need more research, more recognition and more support for these people. It's disgusting. You know, and you know I've been at this, you know, before COVID. There was an event that really happened. The Gardasil vaccine had similar things. A lot of tremors and issues in the body. We were watching it.
Starting point is 00:26:59 And again, these teenage girls that are unable to play softball or soccer. And then there was a huge event, I believe it's down in Columbia, where I think it was over 250 girls in one village got the Gardasil vaccine, and they all started having seizures. And many were paralyzed. And the headlines literally said it was like a mass psychosis event. Look at this is how they respond. HBV vaccine competence in cases of mass psychogenes.
Starting point is 00:27:25 illness following immunization in Carmen de Bolivar, Colombia. Folks, there was hundreds of girls that could not walk, and they said they were suffering a group mass psychosis event. I mean, this is how far the gaslighting will go. And to me, in many ways, Pierre, it shows we're near the end of winning this. They are so out on a limb now. And when you see Alex Barrensen, a guy that's tried to prop himself out up as a good researcher, as we just showed, never even bothered to call Angelie,
Starting point is 00:27:56 which would have been very easy for him. I'm sure it would have been easy for him to ask for questions. Could have had a conversation with you and a debate. Fine, debate it, whatever it is. But to just, with no research whatsoever, you know, to use your background, like as though you're a reporter. I mean, it makes me want to just burn every newspaper and every television in the country.
Starting point is 00:28:17 We are all, we are becoming Russia, that Chinese media, where now you cannot trust a single thing these people are saying because they don't do their job anymore. What do you think of Alex and what's going on here? And I agree. I think, you know, the sign that it's where it shows this lunatic desperation. I mean, literally this is how you want to try to cover this up by trying to dismiss everyone who's making it up.
Starting point is 00:28:41 And, you know, that headline that you showed about all those girls who suddenly started shaking, right? Yeah. They blame it on mass psychosis. The alternative headline would have been thousands or, or hundreds of girls in a village have severe adverse neurologic reactions to mass vaccination from Garda. So could you imagine that headline, Dell? Right. They don't write those headlines because those are the truth and that would damage
Starting point is 00:29:03 the promotion of these vaccine campaigns. And so I agree this is absolutely desperate. I, you know, I've long ago written off Berenson. I mean, he got one thing right. He just keeps piling on to his list of things he's getting more. Why are we listening to him? He's a New York Times reporter who is early on the vaccine toxicity, and then he continues to get everything that was wrong. And then to go after a young and suffering patient, you know, and accusing with no basis, no investigation, like you said, didn't call and accusing her of saying that you're not helping. Actually, she is helping. She is trying to share her experience so that others can maybe recognize it. And we can get more attention and more of a response. I don't know why I keep waiting for a response for them
Starting point is 00:29:43 the federal government, but I would like a response for it. Maybe it's philanthropy. We need to fund. someone needs to help out these patients. I'm not going to rely on the government anymore. They've failed everything else. I agree. You know what? Let's work on that as a personal mission. I just want to say because I know we're going to lose you here in just a second,
Starting point is 00:29:57 that Pierre, a lot of people come up to me and say, I got the vaccine, I'm having some issues, or I'm just worried that the spike proteins moving around inside of me. I have made your website, the number one website I send people to you and Dr. Merrick and other great people are really dedicated right now to doing something about it. This is www. Dr.Piercori.com, but I'm sending them, if correct, to fLCCC.net,
Starting point is 00:30:24 which is where you have the protocol. So for people out there, if you're experiencing long COVID, which Alex doesn't seem to think exists, or you're experiencing side effects when this vaccine are want to know what you should do to try and clear this from your body. I truly believe the best doctors working at this are at
Starting point is 00:30:40 FLCCC.net. We're all about solutions. And this is a moving target, right? You're, every day, maybe not every day, but you are certainly changing this protocol as you learn more and more. So working with, how valuable and important is it for you to be working with people like Angelia in order to, you know, by her coming to you, you're able to see what things work and what's not. Is it, it's a whole part of the process? It's called the practice of medicine, you know, we don't have the big double-blind,
Starting point is 00:31:11 randomized controlled trials to guide us. I don't know when we will. And when we do, it's going to be a study of Paxlovak. We already know that. The government's already funded that as their main therapeutic that they want to deploy. Right. So what we're left with is old school observational clinical medicine. You know, I work with Angeli and all of my patients from the outside. I'm very humble.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I say, you know, what I know about this syndrome or what I want to know are two completely different things. It's like an upside down or an iceberg where most of what I want to know is beneath the water. Yeah. But I do continuously learn. I'm learning new tricks, approaches. every patient I learn from. And I also ask every patient to learn from themselves. So I always have them.
Starting point is 00:31:51 When we do a therapeutic trial, I tell them they have to serve as their own control. And so we monitor symptoms before therapy and afterwards and we're assessing for effects. And that's how we're learning. And so we've mechanistically with clinical experience, we're constantly evolving the protocol. And I think it's going to continue to be more and more effective. But again, without that help, we're just going to have to do good old gum shoe medicine. And, you know, also I collaborate with different groups around the world who are trying to treat and understand. And we're getting insight from folks who are looking at microclotting and different anti-inflammatory strategies.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And so it's almost like an underground of clinicians trying to figure out how to treat a novel disease. And it's frustrating, but it's also very satisfying. Well, and you're doing it, you know, it would be amazing if you actually had governments that cared about this. All the funding at NIH billions of dollars sitting there being wasted, promoting a vaccine that isn't working, isn't stopping transmission, is putting people at risk, and then going out of their way to threaten licenses of people like you, putting out campaigns, and we know this is coming from some think tank on how to gaslight everybody around this issue. So these are the worst of circumstances for people that are doing the important work that you're doing,
Starting point is 00:33:03 Pierre, you're a hero. I want to thank you for taking the time to enlighten us into what's really the background of this story. And thank you for standing up for Angelia. you know, I'm, it's, it's really important that we stand our ground here. Definitely. Thanks, Del. And hang in there, Angelia. I mean, this is just terrible. I mean, they're going after you and you're like, you know, this seems like this propaganda campaign. They, for whatever reason, chose you and you're the least deserving. None of my patients deserve this. Yeah. All right. Take care, Pierre. You know, Angelia, you have, you know, good friends in your corner.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I do. And, you know, just as some last thoughts, I'm sure it's been a very difficult week. But do you have a message to many of these young people that don't know what they're doing? What is your message to those that maybe just aren't understanding what's really going on here? So a lot of our injured or fragile ones, they're mentally fragile. they don't understand what's going on with their body. I've been in that same dark place before myself in June of 21. This is awful, and this could push someone who is not very strong over the edge,
Starting point is 00:34:27 and I just need you to stop and think about what you were doing. If this was any other disease out there, you would not be making fun of that person. In matter of fact, you would have love and compassion and embrace. embrace this person's illness. It's time for the world to have love and compassion and embrace us as well and stop making fun of us. Well, amen to that, Angelia. I think, you know, in some ways,
Starting point is 00:34:55 these are those Rosa Park moments. I want to thank you for continue to stand in the light and shine the light and bring your compassion. In many ways, these are the birth pangs to what it takes for a population to wake up. We could go the wrong direction with this. I see us, you know, turning lemons into lemonade. Let's make this a good thing.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Let's look at the exposure to this conversation. I hope this will not make you stop talking or stopping out there. You're making a huge difference in the world. And you have a giant group of people I know that are reaching out to you, that you're supporting and helping them find that work. And if you are out there and you have done very well in life, we do need funding here. Whether you want to reach out to me or FLCCCCCC through Pierre-Cory, we will make sure that those funds reach the right people.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Angelia, once again, I'm sorry for this dark moment in humanity, but I do believe it's all a part of bringing the light. Thank you, Dale. All right, take care. You know, I think Gandhi pointed to what's important these times and what our society represents in this quote. Civilization is measured by how it treats its weakest members. we must remember to have compassion.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And if we decide to attack someone that is having difficulties, however dark that may be, at least do your research. I have a huge show coming up. Virish Havav is going to be on in just a moment, and we're going to discuss go deeper with this. How is it? Are there similarities between this time and the Holocaust? If there are, who better than to be able to talk about it
Starting point is 00:36:35 and not be attacked, hasn't stopped the attacks on her, then a Holocaust survivor, but first is time for it, the Jackson Report. All right, Jeffrey. So much going on. Lots of good, lots of mediocre and some bad, but these are truly interesting times. Yeah, it's such important coverage that you just had there. And so let's go to some other important coverage. 52 years ago, an unknown economist started an obscure group,
Starting point is 00:37:13 and they've been meeting ever since then. and that unknown economist was klaus schwab he started the world economic forum and they're now facing kind of being fallen back into obscurity because of the policies and agendas that they're pushing davos the the meeting in davos switzerland just ended and that was the world economic forums meeting where all the luminaries and the the self-proclaimed global elites met to set policy and agenda really outside their own country's view and this is what the report is the report is the look like. Check out some of these headlines. Globalization has died in Davos, 2023 was its funeral ceremony scholar sums up. Let's take a look at this. I mean,
Starting point is 00:37:55 you had media before fawning over the W.E.F. fawning over its elites. Listen to how this is reported. Gal Luf, director of the Washington-based Institute for the analysis of global security told Sputnik, Davos has become the dressing room of the West and is more divorced than ever from the rest. It no longer represents the real concerns of most of the world's population. Its obsession with climate change, social justice, gender, and other forms of wokeness has made it a laughing stock in target of disdain for most of the world. Remember, the W.E.F. and Davos, they are famous for really pushing the agenda of, let's all eat bugs, force transhumanism, artificial intelligence, and really, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:36 destroying economies to fight climate change. We'll all rent and love it, give up all of our possessions. And by the way, I suppose our possessions will be in the hands of those guys and women that fly by themselves in jets, parked like all along, you know, as though I think they even have ballet parking for the jets once they arrive there. And then tell the rest of us we shouldn't be driving more than five miles from our home and be using our bicycles everywhere we go. I mean, it's really no wonder that they've lost some relevance in the world because of reporting like, you know, you're doing right now. Yeah, you know, 15-minute cities, megalopolis, all of the stuff that we reported on. But there's no better really mouthpiece for the current WF than historian, professor of history, of all Harari.
Starting point is 00:39:22 And just to give you a flavor of what the W.EF is up to and why people may not like them. Take a listen to him. Okay. COVID is critical because this is what convinces people to accept, to legitimize total biometric surveillance. We want to stop this epidemic, we need not just to monitor people, we need to monitor what's happening under their skin. What we have seen so far, it's corporations and governments collecting data about where we go, who we meet, what movies we watch.
Starting point is 00:39:57 The next phase is the surveillance going under our skin. We're now seeing mass surveillance systems established even in democratic countries, which previously rejected them, And we also see a change in the nature of surveillance. Previously, surveillance was mainly above the skin. Now it's going under the skin. Governments want to know not just where we go or who we meet, above all they want to know what is happening under our skin.
Starting point is 00:40:29 What's our body temperature? What's our blood pressure? What is our medical condition? Now humans are developing even bigger powers. than ever before. We are really acquiring divine powers of creation and destruction. We are really upgrading humans into gods. We are requiring, for instance, the power to re-engineer life. I know that in recent years we saw populist politicians undermining deliberately the trust that people have in important institutions, like universities,
Starting point is 00:41:03 like respectable media outlets. These populist politicians told people that, say, Scientists are this small elite disconnected from the real people. I mean, all this story about Jesus rising from the dead and being the son of God, this is fake news. Humans are now hackable animals. You know, the whole idea that humans have, you know, they have this soul or spirit and they have free will and nobody knows what's happening inside me. So whatever I choose, whether in the election or whether in the supermarket, this is my free will, That's over.
Starting point is 00:41:41 We've used that video before, and I love, I absolutely love that video. I've said before. I love this guy. I wish they would put him in his own show 24-7, CNN, MSNBC, Bach, you're missing out. Make sure this guy gets as much publicity as he could get because he's making our job so easy. Parents, spend some extra time with your kids. Give him an extra hug so they don't turn out like this guy. Please, we don't need any more.
Starting point is 00:42:07 So, okay, so let's go back to the W.E.F. Davos. So we have the headlines that look like this. This is the Guardian. And we have kind of whistleblowers within the WEF. Mutiny erupts among W.E.F. staff over role of Mr. Davos. That's being currently held by Klaus Schwab. It says a group of current and former W.E.F. staff members who contacted the Guardian said that the 82-year-old Schwab was a law onto himself and had surround himself with nobodies who were incapable of running in the organization he found it in the early 1970s. It goes on to say, Klaus has been at the helm of the WF for 52 years when he was born in 1938, 122 of the 195 states in the world right now did not even exist. He is completely unaccountable to anyone inside and outside the organization, the group said. So we have here, we're really painting a picture of this person who's completely out of control here. So I want to go back. We have a video of Richard Edelman here. He runs the Edelman Trust Institute.
Starting point is 00:43:05 It's a huge corporate PR firm. And you can see him now. He was at Davos and he was giving speeches there and interviews. And you can see they're on the defensive now. People are turning against wokeness. And he's basically speaking up trying to save it and giving people talking points to be on the defensive. Take a listen to this. All right. I think there's something really important to say, which is the CEOs need to stand up against this accused accusation of being woke.
Starting point is 00:43:31 This whole idea of DeSantis and Disney and et cetera is a myth. Our clear research finding is 85% want CEOs to stand up and speak up. Two-thirds of employees want to work for companies that have their same values. Two-thirds of consumers are belief-driven buyers. Every indicator is saying speak up, stand-up, on the four key issues. Sustainability, diversity and inclusion, wages and reskilling, and geopolitics related to Russia. A thousand companies got out of Russia in the last year. That is a very significant step.
Starting point is 00:44:03 It's four times more than got out of South Africa. You can see why those leaders haven't come, because as you point out in your barometer, we've gone from distrust to actually polarization. So there's seen to be a certain amount of reputational risk or damage associated with attending an event now, that for many people is perceived to be dark and about collusion, and about where the elites or the 1% wish to steer the global economy. over the next year. I love this piece because you see him trying to shift the talking points,
Starting point is 00:44:39 but the reporters are just like, look, it's obvious. No one's showing up here. The people that matter aren't showing up. It's embarrassing to look like you're a part of this thing. And I just want to take a moment to say to our audience, this is what, just sharing the videos and the discussions we've had about the WEF, I'm not saying we're the only ones, other great bloggers and everything out there. But as a whole, we have managed to take this world controlling group that is,
Starting point is 00:45:02 is literally trying to shift, you know, out of our national powers, the United States of America, turned in this globalist system. They're now a laughing stock worldwide because the work we've done, the fact that you are sharing it with everyone you know, all of their stupid videos, obviously, I guess, as it turns out, it must be shocking to them. We don't all want to be renters. Right, exactly. And so now we have op-eds that look like this, talking about anybody that opposes the W.EF are right-we-we. They're trying to paint this ridiculous version of reality here. Dissidents opposing the Davos agenda dismisses right wingers.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And it says here, the self-styled masters of the universe gathered in Davos, Switzerland last week for the world's largest convention of the tone deaf. Those with even a modicum of self-awareness avoided the annual world economic form altogether this year, including every G7 leader except German chancellor Olaf Schultz, who was there to talk about renewables, even as Berlin fired back up the nuclear and coal plants after shunning Russian gas. So I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it is laughable. This is a ridiculous position they're in right now and they've created the whole thing and now they have to sit in it. Yeah, I agree. It sort of goes to my point I've been making all
Starting point is 00:46:14 along and people like, oh, they're evil like these evil powerhouses. I said, I think they're just idiots and I'm going to call them that. And luckily many around the world and many journalists now are, are stepping up the plate and calling them the morons that they actually are and we're not having it. You don't get our world. You don't get. to control us you don't get to decide what i drive what i eat whether or not i get to use gas or electric to cook my food that's right and so del i want to switch now to this is a huge story we're about to report and it it really received almost no attention in the media so we know about this idea of indemnity for the vaccine manufacturers and actually for the doctors and nurses who
Starting point is 00:46:54 were doing the injecting as well to to basically shield them from any liability any pushback from all these injuries we're seeing, you know, during COVID or even before COVID for the childhood schedule, something has happened in Australia. And it was in this notice, really illegal notice. This was the Australian Medical Professional Society. This was put forward on January 11th, 2023. And let's look at this. This was to doctors, physicians, nurses. This is what they say. So imagine you're a doctor. You've been given this vaccine out and you get this. Dear medical professional, administering of COVID-19 vaccination is likely not an indemnified action. This is notice of your obligations risks, rights and potential risks.
Starting point is 00:47:36 And it goes on to say on the 2nd July, 2021 and 28 August 2021, the former federal government announced a proposed medical indemnity scheme for health professionals administering the COVID-19 vaccines. Recent correspondence from government advisors outlines that such an indemnity scheme was never established per se, unlike the case with COVID, unlike the case with manufacturers of COVID-19 vaccines, there appears to be no government liability protection beyond the vaccine injury COVID-19 vaccine claims scheme. Now, we're going to keep breaking this apart, and then we'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:48:10 It's this important. So they start going at a couple other angles here. So this is all in one document. Government and AHPRA correspondence outline practitioners' obligations to obtain informed consent. So they're saying, hey, by the way, you need to get informed consent. And this is what that look like. The Australian immunization handbook further states for consent to be legally valid. valid, it must be given voluntarily in the absence of undue pressure, coercion, or manipulation.
Starting point is 00:48:36 It can only be given after the potential risks and benefits of the relevant vaccine, the risks of not having it at any alternative options have been explained to the person. Not a lot of that going on in Australia. Wow. But then it says, then it says this. Hey, remember, remember that informed consent we told you you had to give people? Oh, by the way, you're also being threatened by your boards for misinformation. So you better walk that tightrope.
Starting point is 00:48:58 but says the 9 March 2021 joint statement by HPRA and national boards threatened regulatory action, quote, for anti-vaccine messages and professional health practices and any promotion of anti-vaccination claims, including on social media. Regardless, evidence from reputable sources demonstrates that COVID-19 provisionally approved vaccines have real known and unknown harms and immunocompromising effects. Doctors have a duty to warn patients of any material risk associated with a treatment as well as ensuring their decisions are being made without undue coercion. Oh, my God. I'm going to frame that paragraph.
Starting point is 00:49:35 That is absolutely priceless. It's from the modern version of the Catch 22, if you remember that book or that movie. I mean, basically what we're telling you is that if you say anything bad about this vaccine that could be construed as misinformation, we're going to take your license. But do know that the things that those anti-vaccers are saying, that there are real problems and side effects of these vaccines,
Starting point is 00:49:58 are true. And if you didn't warn your patients about that, you could be liable. I mean, what do you do with that as a doctor? Like, blah, blu-bl-bl-bl-blah-blah-d-d-cray. And remember the government who grants that in saying, we will protect you, has left you hanging out in the wind. So I reached out to a medical professional in Australia who said, basically, since this government scheme is not in place, they'll have to turn to their medical indemnity insurance, which every practitioner, medical practitioner in Australia has to have to practice medicine. So now their personal medical indemnity insurance, they have policy terms. So it's up to this point where, and this is the unknown question, do those policy terms cover if the patient was
Starting point is 00:50:41 not given proper informed consent or if they were manipulated into getting this vaccine and coerceding to getting this vaccine? So what do the policy terms, and that's going to be handled there? So the doctor, if those policy terms don't handle that, it may look like the doctor is going to be on the line to pay for this and to fight this in court on their own without help. So this is a huge, this is a really big step in this whole big situation here. So as I want to have news for Australia out there. Yes, ICANN is looking at teaming up with lawyers in Australia. We love this opportunity. I'm sure we are not alone. So get ready for a wave of lawsuits against doctors for all of those that have been injured in Australia. And then I think all of it, ultimately, I hope that once the doctors start
Starting point is 00:51:26 losing their practices and their money, then we'll turn and sue their own government for having put them up to this, forcing them basically to give this vaccine without warning people of the dangers, threatening them that they would take away their license if they told their patients the truth. I think the ultimate harm is being done by the government. So I'm sorry that we're going to have to use you doctors that were just shills in the middle of this entire experience. but boy, you know, we just keep pulling the bricks away. Eventually this castle is going to come crashing down. And if you look at history, it's not a surprise.
Starting point is 00:51:59 The enforcers of these type of agendas always are the first to get thrown under the bus. And so let's pull this out to a wider view here, like a 10,000 foot view of indemnity. So at the time in 2021, India, you saw the headlines. India was facing, you know, millions of cases of COVID, the surge. And all of a sudden, in the middle of that, you saw, this headline in February of 2021, Pfizer withdraws application for emergency use of its COVID vaccine in India. So India held the line and did not allow those MRNA vaccines to come in. They used kind of in-house vaccines. They created their own vaccines. They used them in the population and,
Starting point is 00:52:33 you know, proclaimed a success story there. But now we're finding out why that was because Pfizer wanted to have indemnity. This was the this was the headline that just happened recently. Pfizer tried bullying India to accept indemnity clause for COVID vaccine claims minister Rajiv Chandra Sikhar. So understand like Israel had this same. Israel was famously the first country to basically sign their entire population away to lab rats for Pfizer, but open air testing on these MRI vaccines there. And that was the indemnity clause that they had to sign on to.
Starting point is 00:53:07 And the other countries had to do that as well. India said no, which is a really big deal. And that brings us here to the U.S. We're really starting to get to the heart of this here. We have Representative Louis Gomer who put forth a bill. This is the headline coming out of there. Gomer files bill to hold pharma accountable. This is H.R. 9366, and basically to amend the Public Health Service Act to hold
Starting point is 00:53:29 vaccine manufacturers liable for those injuries caused by the vaccine, especially when it's subject to a public mandate. So, my gosh, I mean, this is a slow-pitched softball here for the COVID mandate that came forward with people losing their jobs. I can taste it, man. I think the 1986 vaccine injury compensation program is hanging the balance. I think it's vulnerable now. I think it is time for us and others like us, all those groups out there, all of you that
Starting point is 00:53:55 are at state capitals, I think it's time to start saying it is time to remove this liability protection. We would never see a disastrous vaccine like this, destroying lives, crippling people, heart attacks, all of it, if they were going to be liable for it. Let the free market decide what comes onto the market and let the free market have to, you know, face the consequences of their products like every one of us that have businesses have to. Right. And so one of the points here, Del, and to this next story, I'm seeing all over social media now that is really, I guess, common knowledge that the vaccine doesn't stop transmission
Starting point is 00:54:31 and, you know, I'm seeing, although I hate this word, it's not accurate. Antivaxers were right, everyone's saying. Right. It's this is how this goes for people just tuning in or just waking up to this thing. You have a product that's not really tested. Farma pushes it through the the captured agencies allow that to go through. And then you have politicians that jump on there often taking money from pharma. And they push through bills to mandate these these products.
Starting point is 00:54:59 And that's what we saw to the extreme extent for COVID. So now let's turn to obesity. So during the lockdowns, there was a problem here. in Sweden had done a lot of great studies from their population. This was one of them. This is really a groundbreaking study here. Study reveals rise in overweight obesity among preschool Swedish children during the pandemic. So they looked and they found that overweight and obesity increased among three and four year olds in Sweden during that lockdown. And remember, they had a soft lockdown. So what the heck's happening here in the
Starting point is 00:55:30 hard lockdown countries like Australia, US? But why are we talking about that? Well, the American Academy of pediatricers just came out with new guidelines. And it talks about this. And this was a shocking headline. People are still scratching their head around this, but we're going to break it down, and it's pretty easy to do the calculation on why this headline happened.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Consider drugs and surgery early. Early for obesity and kids, new guidelines say, waiting doesn't work. It goes into this article here. It says, children struggling with obesity should be evaluated and treated early and aggressively, including with medications. You never want to see those in the same sentence.
Starting point is 00:56:02 For kids as young as 12, and surgery for those as young as 13, according to new guidelines released, Monday this is the first time the American Academy of Pediatrics has released guidance for for this subject in about 15 years so we looked into this we're thinking why is this happening why now was it a pandemic well unfortunately it's the same equation so there's a new drug for kids what how old 12 and older oh my gosh just like the AAP's guidelines and this was in December 23rd just about the
Starting point is 00:56:30 same time we saw those headlines FDA approved once weekly Wagovi injection for the treatment of obesity and teens age 12 and older So this is an injectable prescription medication, the first and only prescription for for anti-obesity they're calling it. And it's basically a type 2 diabetes medication that they're just amping up a little bit. And wait for it. There's another one that's being fast-track. So now we have another one.
Starting point is 00:56:55 We have potentially two coming down the line. This one's terseptide, these names, I'm kind of sick of them at this point. Drug fast track for weight loss indication by FDA, another type 2 diabetes medication. And so what's happening? What does that do to the type two diabetes medication supply? Well, it may actually constrain it. And that's the headline we're seeing right here. Drugs used for diabetes now in short supply due to people using them for weight loss,
Starting point is 00:57:21 doctors say. So we have, you know, the pharmaceutical industry is just mucking this whole thing up. We're giving dangerous drugs. There's thyroid cancer risk for these drugs to kids at this point, 12 and older. And that's the new, that's a new guideline. So watch out, you know, and, well, we're just giving up on the kids and working on lifestyle, on exercise, on good eating habits. I mean, this is where we're at. This is how stupid we are in the Western civilization, right?
Starting point is 00:57:47 Let's not like work at an education, right? Teach someone to fish and they can, you know, fish for a lifetime, hand them a fish. They can't do anything with it. I mean, ultimately, this is what we're doing. We're not teaching anymore. It's so sad. And now just surgeries and chemicals. Let's just put them on. We already have, I believe, is it like one in four kids leaving elementary school and a drug they're going to be on the rest of the life? Just add this to the list of our drugged out nation. It's horrifying. Then the idea of surgeries, just cutting into these children and the long-term effects of that. And the dangers I worked on the doctor's television show. One of the biggest stories we would do. Every one of us, Jen Sherry, my executive producer, we've all been in the surgery, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:28 cutting and watching these giant pieces of fat being cut off of people. It's a horrific surgery. and it's very dangerous and to think that you're going to start doing these to kids. And what is the long-term life expectancy? You know they didn't do a long-term life expectancy study because that would take about 70 years to know whether or not they're going to live to have a full life after you start drugging and cutting them as children. And so we're raising the alarm for this because, God forbid, some low information, big pharma influence politician gets a hold of this.
Starting point is 00:58:58 You better believe that they would not wait for mandates to mandate this on kids and they'll have some kind of sobs story for that to happen. for the best interest absolutely and so painting a picture here the american food situation the american dietetic situation is is in a sorry state and this is another part of this whole story that goes together is the conflicts of interest and you know how do we get to this this state of obesity really this is one of the headlines this was out of u.s right to know they they have a FOIA documents revealed group shaping u.s nutrition receives millions from big food industry this is the academy of nutrition and dietetics the world's largest organization
Starting point is 00:59:34 And so this, the academy is, is completely corrupt. That's what's been found out. And you can see that here. This is the paper on the corporate capture. And the corporate capture of the nutrition profession in the USA, the case of the Academy of the Nutrition and Dietetics, they go in extreme detail here to basically outline the corruption. But it's not just them.
Starting point is 00:59:54 So there's another organization. So we have these two watchdogs here. The other organization is there's an advisory committee, just like there is at ASIP and Virpac. there's an advisory committee for the U.S. dietary guidelines for Americans. And in 2022, they looked at the conflicts of interest for them. This is the paper here. If anybody wants to read this on their own conflicts of interest for members of the U.S. 2020 or 2020 dietary guidelines advisory committee, this is what they found, Dell. Results. Our analysis found that 95% of the committee members had conflicts of interest with
Starting point is 01:00:24 the food and or pharmaceutical industries. And that particular actors includes Kellogg's, Abbott, Kraft, Meade Johnson, General Mills, Dan, and the international life sciences had connections with multiple members. This is the interesting point about this. Even further, research, funding, and membership of an advisory executive board jointly accounted for more than 60% of the total number of conflicts of interest documented. So their leadership is top-heavy with corruption, conflicts of interest. So that leads us to what do we have left? Well, maybe colleges, maybe universities, and that brings us to Tops. We have the Friedman School of Nutrition in science policy at Tufts University,
Starting point is 01:01:01 they came out with something called the food compass recently. And this is a nutrient profiling system. And this was very celebrated. It was presented at a lot of forums showing this new system. But unfortunately, this was broken apart. In this paper specifically, limitations of food compass nutrient profiling systems.
Starting point is 01:01:19 And the author said this in this analysis when they looked at it. They said, we proposed that the chosen algorithm, this is a, they use an algorithm to basically rank food is not where, justified and produces results that fail to discriminate for common shortfall nutrients, exaggerating the risk associated with animal source foods and underestimate the risk associated with alter processed foods. We caution against the use of food compass in its current form to
Starting point is 01:01:43 inform consumers, policies, programs, industrial reformalizations, and investment decisions. And they ran that algorithm. They ran through some foods in this algorithm to basically show an example of, you know, this algorithm needs to be updated, changed. It's not really that accurate. Take a look at this. This is what they showed. It's basically a chart. So you have watermelon kale up there at 100. The hundreds the highest score you can get. And then just under that's frosted mini-weets. What? And then, of course, you have Lucky Charms at 60, which is, you know, a little better than I guess a D grade. But then at the bottom, there's a problem here. We have a whole egg fried in butter, cheddar cheese and ground beef at the bottom. So they're saying
Starting point is 01:02:22 in this algorithm is telling you honeynut Cheerios, Lucky Charms, Frosted Mini Wheats are really much better than having ground beef or an egg or cheddar cheese. Oh my God. Like, forget whole foods. Eat, you know, lucky charms is far up the list. I mean, and then you wonder, and look, I mean, it's just a revolving door, right? I mean, we are starting to really look at the food issue, but it's the same as the pharmaceutical issue, the corruption in oil and gas issues, in banking issues.
Starting point is 01:02:51 The whole problem is regulatory capture, right? It's that the people that are making the decisions coming up with polymers. policies and, you know, are you really, honestly, Jeffrey, I don't feel like I can tell the difference between a manufacturer in the industry and our regulatory agencies. They're all involved. It's like literally our regulatory agencies. They're now just promotional marketing arms of the industry. You see it right there. You know, FDA comes out in the American Academy of pediatric. Oh, this is great. Let's just get the drugs going because our food compass is working so well. Everyone's fat. Right. And so we report this every week, 52, times a year and we continue to report this deli for you and i may be old news but we report this because there's a record now and people can go back and go right wait a minute in five years and go that food compass we relied upon a set policy was wrong if only we could have known or wow taking these injectable type 2 diabetes drugs for kids out 12 and older was you know there's a thyroid cancer epidemic right only we would have known now we know no we know now so share this with anybody
Starting point is 01:03:54 that considering these drugs and looking for healthy lifestyle changes that are looking at this type of information, they need to look someplace different and perhaps do their own research. Absolutely, Jeffrey. Great reporting. Amazing. I love how you get into all the details. Keep up the good work and we'll see you next week. Okay, thanks. I mean, how amazing is Jeffrey Jackson, right? I mean, everywhere I go, everyone's like Dell, you know, I want to get a picture. Where's Jeffrey? I got to get a picture with him. It's amazing the reporting that he's doing. Well, I have really, really exciting news. Jeffrey Jackson isn't going to be alone. As I've said it, we want to continue to expand. We're looking for those voices that we
Starting point is 01:04:32 believe actually as focused and dedicated to the truth as we are transparency. I've talked about the High Wire Protocol, which is a part of what we represent, which is we hand you all of our evidence, all the links for what we're saying. And for those of you that are watching the show right now, it's one of the greatest tools we provide completely free. You don't even have to be donating to us to use it right now. Just go on the page you're watching, go scroll down thehighwire.com, and just put in your email right there, subscribe, and then on Monday, you will receive all of the links to the videos, all of the science that we're talking about. You can read the entire journal, the science, whatever we're talking about yourself.
Starting point is 01:05:14 If you want to accuse us of cherry picking, well, you won't be able to do that if you didn't read the whole thing, so read it. See, are they really telling me the truth? We want this in every news organization that is trying to attack us and say, oh, they're spreading misinformation. Really name exactly what thing we said. You know, they'll never do it. They will never, because they can't. As we are perfectly happy, we are so satisfied with our record of reporting over these last, you know, six or seven years, and especially during COVID.
Starting point is 01:05:40 We're aging well. Well, we have a brand new member joining our team. She's going to be writing for the high wire. Tracy Bede. She's a social media powerhouse. You've seen her, you've read her articles, she has a gigantic following, but one of my favorite things about her, you know, beyond just sort of representing humanity is her ethics and her desire to really drill down on the truth and provide her evidence. We've been watching her work and we're really excited to have her joining us. She is editor-in-cheap of at Undercover DC. Go check that out.
Starting point is 01:06:19 She's the host of the Darklight podcast found on all major podcasting platforms. And she joins me right now. Tracy, welcome to the team. We're so excited about it. I'm so excited to be here, Del. It's been a long time in the making. I think, you know, it's hard to find people that have the same level of integrity that, you know, you hold yourself to. And you guys are fantastic.
Starting point is 01:06:43 I'm so thrilled and honored to be joining your team for real. We are, too. And obviously right out of the... out of the gate you wrote an article for us this week. I would say it's viral. Tens of thousands of views already. You know, there it is. MRNA is not going away. Moderna CEO has permanent global plans. And I understand you're getting some press around this. If you talk, you know, who's called you about this article? Lots of people actually. I was on Bannon this morning, had a great conversation with him about it, alongside Peter Boulogne, who was talking about the
Starting point is 01:07:18 the project Veritas released from yesterday regarding Pfizer. But you know, the MRNA technology kind of rollout is so concerning, Dell. It's, it's, you know, they'd never tested this on humans before March of 2020 for the most part. And now they're pushing this lipid nanoparticle into the arms of every citizen on the planet. And they're not looking to stop with just the COVID vaccines. They're expanding and they're going out to, you know, MRSA and and not MRS and, MERS and SARS and Marburg and all and Zika and, you know, all these other viruses that they're looking to use this on. And it started with DARBA and diseases and diabetes and cancers and all of
Starting point is 01:07:59 this. And what's so scary about it is they want to skip in many ways the safety trials saying, look how safe it was for COVID-19. We're going on that safety data as we, you know, Spilunk and your immune system with every crazy piece of MRNA we can put in there. Here's a list of many that you put in your article. It's great showing many of the different things that they're working on, the different products that they're working on. And it's scary, right? In our minds, you and I, we're doing reporting.
Starting point is 01:08:26 MRNA is disaster, yet you watch our government, and you're getting into the Department of Defense, and working with Moderna and this symbiotic and really incestuous relationship between industry now and our own government and pushing a technology which to, you know, anyone with blood pumping through their brains looks like a travesty. It's terrible. And, you know, DARPA started this technology because they wanted to protect the fighter. They wanted to be able to protect the fighter from any disease.
Starting point is 01:08:55 If they could get the blood of a survivor within 60 days, be able to spit up some kind of a vaccine to help fight off against whatever bioweapon was being used. But they tested this on 22 people. And then Fauci and NIAID, when COVID just, you know, came out in December of 2020, decided that by March, they'd be putting it into human beings and then rolling it out to billions of people and billions of doses, 14 or 15 billion doses given across the world now. And we're seeing the disastrous effects of this. You know, Bill and Melinda Gates are involved. The World Economic Forum is involved. This is all a big sort of geopolitical globalist pushed to use MRNA for everything. They're talking about RSV. They're talking about the flu shot.
Starting point is 01:09:39 there. You know, every, every standard vaccine, which you and I think would both agree, we're not necessarily big fans of, have now become MRI vaccines. Yeah. It's troubling. It is very troubling. It's a great article. Tracy, I want to thank you for joining our team. I love your integrity, even reading the article, all of your citations. It's an easy read, well researched, and we're going to follow you. I look forward to you joining us on the high wire and when you're breaking these stories. It's an exciting moment for us, proof that we're just getting bigger and badder and better. And I love the fact that you're kind of, you know, no bull crap just like I am. You call it like you see it. Yes, sir. There's no other way at this point in time. It's such an honor
Starting point is 01:10:26 to be with you guys. I look forward to being back here with you again. All right. Awesome. I mean, thank you, Tracy. That's awesome. And we'll talk to you soon. Good stuff. All right. Okay. Well, you know, a lot of what we we've been talking about in this show. There's positives, there's negatives. All of these things, though, there is a reflection point. Where are we at? How do we understand ourselves by reflecting on our history?
Starting point is 01:10:50 If we forget our history, we are doomed to repeat it. I don't think there's ever been more important words. Yet there's a history now that seems to be protected. One that we were told we were never supposed to forget, never again, the slogan being. Yet now if you go near it, it's like a third rail. Well, there's one person that has never been afraid of that third rail. I think she has every right to speak her truth.
Starting point is 01:11:15 And can you imagine having to overcome your own PTSD, having escaped one of the worst things that ever happened in the world, going back to the home of that and speaking your truth? This is Vera Sharav at Nuremberg last year. I took a look at this. I came to Nuremberg to provide historical context to the car. global threat confronting our civilization. These past two years and a half have been especially stressful as painful memories were rekindled. In 1941, I was three and a half years old.
Starting point is 01:11:55 My family was forced from our home in Romania to Ukraine. We were herded into a concentration camp, essentially left to starve. The Holocaust did not begin in the gas chamber. in the gas chambers of Auschwitz or Treblinka. The Holocaust was preceded by nine years of incremental restrictions and personal freedom and the suspension of legal rights, civil rights, and essentially human rights.
Starting point is 01:12:29 The stage was set by fear mongering and hate mongering propaganda. A series of humiliating discriminatory government edicts demonized Jews as spreaders of disease. We were compared to lice. The real viral disease that infected Nazi Germany was eugenics. Eugenics is the elitist ideology at the root of all genocides. If we are to avert another Holocaust, we must identify ominous current parallels before they poison the fabric of society. Few people recognize foreboding similarities between current policies and those under the Nazi regime.
Starting point is 01:13:28 In 1933, the primary target of discrimination were Jews. Today, the target is people. Today, the target is people. people who refuse to be injected with experimental, genetically engineered so-called vaccines. Moral significance of the Nurember Code cannot be overstated. The Nurember Code is the most authoritative, internationally recognized document in the history of medical ethics. In 1961, in his farewell address to the nation, president, president, President Dwight D. Eisenhower warned against the increasing domination of the military industrial complex, we must be alert to the danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological elite. A posse of ruthless, interconnected global billionaires has gained control over
Starting point is 01:14:34 national and international policy-setting institutions. They have embarked on implementing a diabolical agenda. Embraced by the most powerful global billionaire technocrats who gather in Davos, big tech, big pharma, the financial oligarchs, academics, government leaders, and the military industrial complex. These megalomaniacs have paid. paved the road to another Holocaust. The weapons of mass destruction are genetically engineered injectable,
Starting point is 01:15:13 bio weapons, curating as vaccines. Unless all of us resist, never again is now. Well, tomorrow is International Holocaust Remembrance Day. Obviously, a very important time in history that we should never forget. And there's very complicated conversations that have been going on. about the Holocaust, especially as we've all sort of come through this experience of the pandemic. Around the world, we've gone through it together in a lot of comparisons and people being accused of making incorrect comparisons. So it is really my honor and pleasure to be joined today by Vera Shura, who's the president and founder of the Alliance for Human Research Protection.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Vera, thank you for joining me. Thank you very much for having me. An incredible speech. We could have just sat and watched the entire thing. But really, the Nuremberg Code, you were in Nuremberg, talking about, this is something we're going to get into, sort of your background with this. But as a Holocaust survivor, why did you go to speak in Nuremberg last year in August? What was your intention?
Starting point is 01:16:32 Well, the reason is that the Nurembergote is used. It was part of a verdict in the doctor's trial, the Nazi doctor's trial at Nuremberg. The judges sought to ensure that such medical atrocities would never happen again. And the way to do that was to lay down a set of international ethical norms. that would be mandated for every human being everywhere, international. It is, it supersedes national codes. Now, what happened was that the medical establishment really didn't want to have such ironclad ethical standards. And so they really resisted.
Starting point is 01:17:33 And what has happened, of course, in the United States, the Nuremberg Code actually is enveloped within the federal regulations about human research. The Belmont report which preceded the federal guidelines, which gave reason for doing them. And this, by the way, this didn't happen until 1972 when the Tuskegee, syphilis experiments were exposed to the public. Right. That's when the American public health community realized they have to do something or lose public credibility. Right.
Starting point is 01:18:17 So they recommended these ethical standards. However, you see, the other ethical standards can be modified, can be changed almost at will. And so they have, they have kept on evaporating them slowly, very slowly. But the Nuremberg Code, because it was part of a legal verdict, which was never challenged, it stands like the Ten Commandments, I like to say, because there are ten principles. And the first and foremost is no matter what, the voluntary, informed consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:07 No ifs, no buts, no changes whatsoever. The scientific community didn't like it. However, it's, you know, it's sort of on the books. And whenever it's been used by lawyers in U.S. courts, it was accepted. As a matter of fact, Pfizer lost a case. which was offshore. It wasn't even conducted in the United States. It was for a Toban. It was an experimental antibiotic. And children died in it. And finally, 10, 20 years afterwards, families appealed, you know, they wanted compensation, something. And they finally actually got it. And that was in New York
Starting point is 01:19:58 federal court. So the Nuremberg Code can be used in legal arguments. I think lawyers have just been wary, you know, it's not an American law, but it can be used and it's been cited by judges. The more, if it's used, it will be enforced. It can be argued, really. So you went to Germany last year to speak on behalf of the Nuremberg Code. in Nuremberg where, you know, at the center of this is, you know, really the trial of Nazi doctors who were experimenting on innocent people in concentration camps. And I think, hopefully we all know many of the stories around that. Now what is outrageous is after giving that speech, you have been, you know, handed a criminal
Starting point is 01:20:50 citation by, is it the German government or the local government there? was a Jewish group, or at least it's not ostensibly a Jewish group, that filed a criminal complaint with the police at Nuremberg. And this was after a newspaper article had accused me, wrote very disparagingly. For example, they left out the fact that I was really a Holocaust survivor. They left out that I was Jewish. They claimed I was Romanian. In Germany and Europe, but Germany in particular, Romanian is equated with gypsy. Gypsy is equated with liar, untrustworthy.
Starting point is 01:21:39 So it's got a lot of connotation there. It's quite disparaging. What's interesting is that newspaper is housed in the very building where there's Sturmer, which was the most, vicious Nazi publication was housed. They just took away the insignia from the top. So it's kind of interesting. There are a lot of these things that are cropping up.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Right. So from the very house where the damage was done, you're being accused of somehow being insensitive. It's really about being insensitive to the Holocaust, right? Or using it in a... What is the accusation exactly? Well, I haven't read it per se, But what their law allows them to do is to determine that you are trivializing the Holocaust.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Essentially, it was initially, I guess when it was enacted, it was to stop the Holocaust deniers. There are those, you know, really vicious people who just insist the Holocaust never took place. This is all a Jewish conspiracy and on and on and on. Right. So, but that law evidently has been used expansion, you know, exponentially kind of. And anyone who mentions the Holocaust in relation to any other occurrence is accused of trivializing the Holocaust. That's ridiculous. And this is not just in Germany.
Starting point is 01:23:22 In Germany, it's in law. So in that sense, Germany is unique. But in the United States, too, Jewish institutions, including the Holocaust Museum in Washington, they actually have a statement on their website that it is completely inappropriate to bring in the Holocaust either with past history or current history. Well, you know, more than 600 scholars wrote a letter objecting because that means you can't. You can't study it, you can't teach it. Essentially, what I am accusing them of, they, by squelching discussion and comparison and recognizing signals, they are making the Holocaust
Starting point is 01:24:09 irrelevant, irrelevant to history, irrelevant to today. Now, why would they do that? That's a question to ask. It's a really good question. I want to get deeper into that. But first, I want to sort of take go back a little bit in your background you know in New York you are the president founder of the Alliance for Human Research Protection I mean really in essence you started a nonprofit looking at the Nuremberg Code years ago right I mean this has always been a part of your mission is to make sure that you know we're protecting people from being you know research guinea pigs in a way what
Starting point is 01:24:49 what got you into that so forcefully I'll tell you The first thing that got me into particularly to realize that unethical research in medicine was being done in the United States was somebody anonymously sent me an article from the American Journal of Psychiatry. And that article was about 28 veterans, U.S. veterans at the Bronx VA, who had been in the community, living in the community. they had been treated for schizophrenia. Seven of them, according to the doctor's evaluation, were currently not ill. In other words, they were in remission. They were out of it.
Starting point is 01:25:36 They brought them to the hospital, took them off whatever medications they were on or whatever therapies, and they gave them el-dopa. And the purpose of the experiment was to monitor and document, and document how long it would take before they had a schizophrenic relapse. When I read that, I said, that's Nazi experiments.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Yeah. Plain and simple, that's Nazi experiment. And it was the first complaint that I filed with the Federal Office of Human Research Protection. It took them four years. Yeah. And four years. What year was that? When was that taking place?
Starting point is 01:26:18 Well, the article, as I remember, was published in 87. I saw it in 90-something. So 94 is when, and of course they validated the complaint, and not only that, they also found that two of the veterans, when they became psychotic, became violent. So now they had that on their record. Thank you to the doctors. And the doctors were from Mount Sinai. This was a terrible awakening for me because before I filed the complaint, first of all, I had never really read articles in the journals, you know, scientific journals.
Starting point is 01:27:01 And I called two prominent psychiatrists who by then I knew and asked them, am I reading this right? Do I understand what I'm reading? Because, and they said yes. So the purpose, just think about it, was exactly the kind of objective. that a lot of the experiments that Mengele did or any of the others. Now, a lot of what brings me into this conversation is, you know, I made the documentary Vax and I traveled and met so many parents, thousands really across the country and around the world who, you know, they're called anti-vactors, but really they were pro-vaxers that the technology or the vaccines ended up failing them, hurting their children or hurting themselves.
Starting point is 01:27:47 And so that really made them outspoken individuals, many of them getting involved in politics and things like that trying to make a difference. Similarly, you had a personal story that really... I had a son who was still, who was mentally ill, so that I had to tackle, and it's really tackle, the mental health system. And that's when I learned, you know, the travesties that go on. And I became, you know, active. At first, I was with an organization,
Starting point is 01:28:23 a lion's from mentally ill, but a parent organization. But like all advocacy groups in medicine, they wind up really being exploited by government and industry. Become lobbyists for industry and for government policies. And a great deal of money is spent in the United States on social services and all that for the elderly, for the ill.
Starting point is 01:28:56 But guess what? The vast majority, 90% goes to the providers. It's not for the services that the actual individuals get. And in the mental health field, that's absolutely prominently so. And I realized that, you know, my job isn't to make sure that, you know, that the agency gets enough funding. Right. So, you know, slowly I began to realize that this was not really good. I mean, I learned things by observing.
Starting point is 01:29:32 And since then, of course, there have been a lot of exposés about various groups. It began actually with the AIDS. During the AIDS time, they were insisting on getting experimental drugs, you know, to save their lives. That's fine. Yeah. But that was then used as a door so that now every group claimed we want ours also fast-tracked. Well, what do you think that does for Pfizer? Right.
Starting point is 01:30:06 You fast-track it. We're doing you a favor. Months and years, which is required to really test for safety, as well as for efficacy. We're seeing that now. But this is going on, and it was a gradual thing. Can I ask you what your son, because I know it was sort of directly, you know, you had to handle the pharmaceutical industry when it came to your own son? Yep. What was the issue that took place?
Starting point is 01:30:34 No, he had schizophrenia. Uh-huh. He had schizophrenia. It's a very terrible. illness that just robs a person of their, I mean, he was brilliant. He was, I don't like to visit that, you know, that whole life, but it is because of him that I wound up. And this is very similar to other parents, as you mentioned before. When you're hit, you kind of open your eyes to things you didn't ever expect to me.
Starting point is 01:31:06 And you realize that your child is just a vehicle for them, and they don't really care. They don't. So were they just testing things on him? No, they did. Well, you could say everything is testing. Look, in psychiatry, that's plain and simple. There are no cures, period. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Very little, if anything, actually helps the patient. What helps patients often in many of these psychological problems is a problem. understanding, and you can call it talk therapy, communal. It's not chemical, but they're shoving chemical stuff. And what they did, and this began partly during his ordeal, they started to prescribe cocktails of psychotropic drugs. Now, what does that mean? When you have a cocktail, if something goes wrong, each producer can say, not my drug, it's his.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Right. It's a very neat marketing thing, and it protects you from liability this way, because you can't prove which of those, you know, what's in the cocktail has done it. Now, isn't it interesting that that's exactly how vaccines now are done as well? You don't have one product in a vaccine. You've got a whole bunch of things in there. Adjuvence, also. Yeah, and multiple vaccines given at the same time. I mean, the more you do that, the more difficult,
Starting point is 01:32:41 the more problems you're going to have with lots of people who can't tolerate it, but you won't be able to prove which one did it. And so ultimately your son? My son died of, and he died of the drug clausoryl, and New York State Department of, mental health tried to get the coroner to change the cause of death. That's how bad it is. Wow.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Yeah. So I learned to fight from that whole terrible saga many years, many years. But that's what happened. And these drugs, the anti-psychotic drugs are meant to break the body. Yeah. I mean, the fact that the psychiatrist who prescribed them
Starting point is 01:33:37 don't notice a thing, they don't notice the diabetes, they don't notice the blowing up, they don't notice anything. How is that? Right. I mean, you know, the same issues we're seeing now, many of the side effects of the drugs being used in COVID are...
Starting point is 01:33:52 These are effects. Yeah. And these are effects. We have COVID people dying of kidney failure. It doesn't make any sense. Except the drug runs there. Yeah. Yeah. We can talk about all the great work that you've done, you know, with the Alliance for Human Research Protection, including you fought for children.
Starting point is 01:34:11 They were testing HIV drugs on, some of which you found maybe didn't even have HIV, usually lower income groups, things like that. They were blacks and Hispanics, period. Yeah. Okay. I want to really inject one thing. Okay. I have to say, which is it was so deep.
Starting point is 01:34:28 was so during the Nazis and it's so in psychiatry and it's so in the public health field. Eugenics is driving a lot of this. Money for sure, but it isn't only money. They divide people into worthy and unworthy. The Nazis actually call them worthless eaters. This is the same. People in that field regard essentially their clients as, Lesser. That's eugenics. That never left. They don't call it eugenics. And now genetics is to blame, right? It's the same thing. The point is that when you diminish some people and groups of people, you can keep on doing a lot of things that you wouldn't do to your own.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Well, earlier in the show, I had the opportunity to speak to Angelia Dicell, who came on to our show who started having tremors. And she was on with two other nurse practitioners, they've all had a very strong commitment to working medicine. Just this week, they started attacking her that she was faking it. It's gone viral. Now there's people making fun of her, doing shaking motions, like, and putting out videos and things all over the place. And it really reminds me of once we can demoralize someone, without any facts, no proof, no looking at her medical records, no understanding who she is.
Starting point is 01:35:52 And all the stories we've seen of these tremors, you know, over 20,000 reported to the system, which is probably just, you know, a drop in the bucket. When you see that level of inhumanity happening now, what does it make you think? Well, that's exactly why I recognize the parallels. You see, there are some very, very specific, yes, this relegating people that you disagree with, let's say, as subhuman. Yeah. That's, that you open Auschwitz. Absolutely. Well, let's get into that. Let's go, let's take it back then.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Just because I know that there's people say, oh, she wasn't really in the Holocaust or, oh, you know what I mean? In the same level, they will accuse you of things. They will cite you in Germany for a criminal act. What is your background when someone says, Vera is a Holocaust survivor? What does that mean? It means that in 1941. my family and I were evicted from our home in Romania.
Starting point is 01:37:04 We were made to wear the Yellow Star. And we were deported to Ukraine, to a concentration camp in Ukraine. It was winter, and we didn't go by train, but rather by a rickety boat. We had to cross a river, that nestor. And the boat was almost going to possibly capsize it was very rickety standing room only and my father took off his
Starting point is 01:37:37 winter coat and threw it into the water he later died of typhus in the camp and I attributed it to his having a winter coat and a little bit I blamed myself because I kept my little toy. He threw his coat and I can't, so I felt I was selfish. The camp that we were at was not a death camp, but death was always in the air. The threat of it was constant. There were lists that would be put up and then you were sent. Some were sent for slave labor and others. There were, people don't realize it, there were more than 4,200 camps were Europe. And so we were left to starve. This was not a regimented camp. We didn't have the tattooed numbers, but it was death all around. And after my father died,
Starting point is 01:38:55 I was really, really terrified that something would happen to my mother. because then, you know, I was just, I was constantly living in fear. And my mother got wind of the fact that this was in, oh God, 44. She got wind of the fact that some orphaned children would be rescued. So she lied and put me on the list. Of orphaned children. of orphan children, and that's how I got out of there. This was already 44.
Starting point is 01:39:34 This was when they were soon going to be liquidating all camps that still had Jews in them. I want to mention that the 1C conference, January 1942, was where the top 15 Nazi officials launched the final solution. So again, this, in 2020, I got chills. When Bill Gates said on national TV that the final solution to COVID would be a vaccine. I know what final solution is. And to make matters even worse, when the interviewer said to him, oh, you know, he laughed.
Starting point is 01:40:23 Bill Gates laughed, yes. Yeah. So if you don't see parallels, I mean. Right. So you put out as an orphan, you end up being grouped up, and there's a moment where you're choosing what boat to go on, right? That I think, I mean, I'm always amazed at these miraculous decisions because it truly was a decision that would ultimately define whether you lived or died.
Starting point is 01:40:46 Yeah. After I left the camp, I was kind of a child in transit for about 10 months. and the ultimate destination was Palestine. When we finally were headed toward, we had to leave Romania by boat to Istanbul. And on route, I befriended a family. I always, I have to say, during the 10 months, I had to assess people who could take care of me because I knew I couldn't take care of myself.
Starting point is 01:41:33 I was little. By the way, I didn't grow in the camp. I left in the same coat that I went in. Wow. And I was there three years. So on route, I befriended a family who was also going to Palestine. And when we got to the harbor, there were three small boats. and they started to call out the names
Starting point is 01:42:01 and assign which boat you were going on. And I was assigned to the boat with all the orphan children. I refuse. I absolutely refuse. And it was, you know, quite a... I can't imagine it today. They would have probably, you know, given me some ADHD drugs.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Right. But somehow, I don't know, everybody went according to their assigned place and I was left alone on the and I cried I was but no matter what they are but I would not go on the boat I only insisted now it wasn't really capricious at all I wanted to be with the family that I knew could take you know I liked them yeah trusted them yeah so finally in the end they did miraculously they gave in to me and I went on the boat with the family and I used to get very seasick so but I finally fell asleep at night so I didn't
Starting point is 01:43:13 witness but at night the first night out at sea a submarine torpedoed the boat with all the children and I found out about it the next morning everyone was still, you know, very upset because they witnessed the screaming children. And I realized, you know, that I was right to disobey. And I guess when some kind of a crisis happens, I know that I have to rely on my own judgment. I don't obey. And no one can take that away.
Starting point is 01:44:04 You see, I think that the problem is that so many people don't trust their own judgment, don't trust their own gut feeling. They don't trust their instinct. And all those are part of your human makeup. You're not just an intellectual brain. You're not just, you know, that's absurd to limit people's capacity, the importance only to what their IQ is. I mean, that's nonsense.
Starting point is 01:44:29 So much more to a human being. And I see that happening now. This is very similar. People are told to obey. don't ask questions, obey. Right. That was the Nazi regime. That was the Soviet regime.
Starting point is 01:44:43 A lot of regimes are like that. Is that where we all want to go? Why are people obeying? These are illegal edicts anyway. They're unconstitutional. And they are channeling people into different concentration camps. It won't be, they don't need barbed wire. Right.
Starting point is 01:45:05 digital surveillance, the weapon, and it's been perfected. You know, making this comparison can really, has gotten you into a lot of trouble and just about anyone that has said, you know, the COVID pandemic or this issue around vaccines is a slippery slope towards, you know, what we saw in Nazi Germany, I think what's important, and I've been attacked on this,
Starting point is 01:45:35 And I've even written an article on Substack about the fact that I do believe what we're going through deserves a comparison. But to me, our issue is that we are acting as though Nazi Germany starts with Auschwitz, the moment, you know, they're gassing Jewish people and killing them. But really, it starts long before that, does it not? I mean... It starts way before. Let's remember. And again, this is partly because people don't learn history. Hitler took over in January, 1933.
Starting point is 01:46:09 As I said before, the Wanasi conference was 1942. All those years were preparatory years. There were years in which people, and Jews were demonized. But German citizens were also quelched. They were censored. They couldn't make choices either. Right. Part of the issue really is that when you allow that kind of a regime to take over, everyone in some manner or other suffers.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Right. There's no free ride in that kind of a regime. Yeah. And it took time. Hitler, each step, each diminishing step that he took, he waited to see what... What would people say? What would the world say? Right. And they said nothing. And that's when he escalated and escalated.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Until finally in 42, they decided that's it. All Jews in Europe and North Africa were to be exterminated. Right. I mean, it seems to me what is so, you know, never forget this theme that we grow up with. And, you know, there is Jewish heritage deep on my father's side that we only found about later, so I wasn't raised with that. But I was raised, you know, with my parents really believing that it was important for us to know these historical moments. My mother's also Native Americans. So, you know, incredible injustices and carnage in that story that I was raised with.
Starting point is 01:47:55 All in the state that we are supposed to be better people. We're supposed to be evolving. But this idea of never again, I always thought it was so that we would recognize the very first, you know, moments that things are getting out of place so that we didn't. It's too late. Once you're on a train car to Auschwitz, it's too late to go, oh, you know what? You know what this reminds me of? I mean, at that point, what good is it, you know?
Starting point is 01:48:20 To me, it seems so much smarter to be overly sensitive to it. I mean, to say that you're undermining, you know, the Holocaust. by making early comparisons to, hey, look, I'm not allowed in a restaurant right now. There's a group of people that are, I'm not allowed in here. This smacks of something. Now, you can have whatever medical reasoning you think you have, but shouldn't we at least ask the question? What are we doing here?
Starting point is 01:48:42 Where does this lead? Exactly. The point is that the Holocaust should have taught people to have antenna out for any step that takes away your personal freedom and your God-given human rights. You know, it isn't government that gives us the right to say no. We're given choice. You want to do the right thing or you want to do the selfish thing.
Starting point is 01:49:12 That's our choice. And no government should ever be interfering in that. And those who try to keep the lid on discussions about the Holocaust are making it irrelevant. They are committing a crime against the victims. Every victim, Elie Wiesel, who headed the President's Commission on the Holocaust before the museum was even established,
Starting point is 01:49:43 he absolutely said the most important thing is the silence and indifference is what caused the Holocaust. It wasn't just a bunch of Nazi psychopaths. No. I want to get into because I think what is shocking is who is really on the attack. I mean, it's sort of you would think, I mean, you know, Germany, I guess I could understand why they might attack anyone that wants to make some comparison. But I actually got myself prior to COVID, right here in Austin, Texas. In fact, it's one of the reasons I'm living here now. As you know, I was speaking out against many of the issues in the vaccine program not being properly tested.
Starting point is 01:50:23 I think that the entire vaccine, childhood vaccine program, now that we know there's never been through a long-term safety trial, all of these things that my not-profit and others and like yours have been involved in, you recognize this has been an experiment. This is the largest experiment on humanity is this childhood vaccine program. But I was speaking in Austin, Texas. I was just scheduled to be here. And right at that moment was when there was a measles outbreak in New York, a huge panic made about it. And they actually locked down Rockland County, New York.
Starting point is 01:50:57 And it happened literally, I think, the day of or the day before I was supposed to speak at the Capitol about something totally, you know, about vaccines, but a different topic. And I was sitting in thinking this edict came down and it was aimed at the Hasidic Jewish community because they were the ones, many of them were not vaccine, very large community there. And so the government decided we're going to lock you down. we're going to pose a curfew that you can't be out of the streets. If you're caught walking down the street and you're not, if you don't have the measles vaccine, you would be arrested, you would be cited and fined. And then ultimately, they were even being banned. They couldn't go to their synagogues.
Starting point is 01:51:37 They were not, and we were talking about this is going to be during Passover. So during Passover, this, the city Jewish community was not going to be allowed to practice their religion in their synagogues. And I said, that's it. I have had it. Now, I, you know, I've never just made a competitive. Harrison that the vaccination program, you know, is the same as the Holocaust. But in this moment, I said, I'm going to say that today this is an atrocity that we never
Starting point is 01:52:01 expect to happen. In fact, I think I have a small clip. I'll just show you what I ended up saying on that Capitol. Can we take a look at this? I say to you, how are we going to know if you're not vaccinated? How are we going to arrest you? Maybe we'll do it the same way we did the last time. So for you, for all the Hasidic Jews,
Starting point is 01:52:21 in New York right now that never thought this moment will come. I am saying, I stand with you. Now I got in a lot of trouble for saying that. And, you know, newspapers attacked. He's, you know, conflating the issue, comparing it to Nazi dream. But I was, I wasn't saying, and they said, you know, compares vaccinations to the Holocaust. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:52:46 I was very clear. I am saying you are locking down the very people that have been through this before in the United States of the United States of the whole, In the United States of America, something is really wrong here, but what shocking was even the Holocaust Memorial came out against me. Here it was Auschwitz Memorial instrumentalized in the fate of Jews, who were persecuted by hateful anti-Semitic ideology and murdered and extermination camps like Auschwitz with poisonous gas
Starting point is 01:53:10 in order to argue against vaccination that saves human lives, the scent of intellectual and moral degeneration. This is very interesting though. First of all, the Hasidic Jews, the same way during COVID. It is in the Hasidic community that you find most of the resistors. Why? Because they don't consider, you know, civil laws as being above God's laws. And to them not to study the Torah, not to go to synagogue, not to have their children educated, is far more important.
Starting point is 01:53:45 They make that tool. Yeah, yeah. And so you have many, many more there who did not get the COVID shot. Right. And yeah, and they're vilified as well. Look, what I often get asked, how could it be the Jews don't recognize they should be? The point is Jews are no different from anybody else.
Starting point is 01:54:06 The more they've sat at universities, the more educated they are, the more conditioned they are to trust authority. This is really part of the education for decades. are not taught to think independently and to defend their own position. They're taught that the right thing is good for the community. How did we get people, intelligent people, to accept the idea that your child should be protecting grandma. I know.
Starting point is 01:54:40 Vaccinate the children's to their grandma. Like children have no risk. We get that they have no risk, you know, really zero percent risk of dying from COVID. that they should get a totally untested vaccine that's never really been tested, and then we don't know what's going to do in order to protect the elderly. Well, one of the very precise parallels is the medical use as becoming weaponized. That was initially what I used to say, what set the Holocaust apart from other genocides. It was killing, there was slaughter, there were all sorts of genocides, and we've had a lot of them.
Starting point is 01:55:17 However, never other than during the Holocaust was the medical establishment, the vehicle. They wrote the protocols. They initiated medical murder, and it began not even with the Jews. The first medical murder victims were German. They were German infants and young children under the age of three. They were disabled in some way. The disabled were very much a target of Nazi Germany. It expanded into T4, it was called that project,
Starting point is 01:55:59 to older children. The mentally ill were totally decimated. And then the elderly in nursing homes. And there was some pushback about the adults and elderly. So they pretended that they stopped. but it just went underground. Those gray buses in Germany kept rolling, and everybody knew those gray buses were taking people,
Starting point is 01:56:28 isolating them in order to disappear. They used the T4 program to test methods of killing, including Zichlone B gas. How was it sold to the people? With lies. That's how it's always sold. The parents were told, that the children would be getting special treatment
Starting point is 01:56:53 to improve their health. And then there was murdered, injections, but also some of the children and babies were put through starvation so that the doctors could document how long it takes a child to die without food. I mean, it's horrific. But you see, and this, they turn six hospitals into killing centers. In March and April of 2020, the governments of Western Europe, Australia, Canada, in about five states in the United States, essentially condemned the elderly medical murder.
Starting point is 01:57:45 This was, this was a medical murder. I mean, you watched it right in New York City. You had Andrew Cuomo who knew he'd been quoted as saying, in many ways, the elderly are the ones that are vulnerable. This is like a match in a dry grass field. And then he mandates that the nursing homes are going to have to take in elderly that have tested positive for COVID. So it's like what's happening?
Starting point is 01:58:11 I mean, there's no accident here. You know that the most vulnerable are the elderly. You're forcing nursing homes. take these patients. You're not allowing those elderly to stay in hospitals where you can handle it, but sending them back to them. When you watch that happening right on, you know, right where you live. Yeah, that's exactly. That's why I said, that's T4. Yeah. That's T4. The government decides who are useless eaters. Yeah. And they gave the excuse, which was exactly the excuse that the Nazis used for clearing out the nursing homes.
Starting point is 01:58:48 and the hospitals of the mentally ill, which was the Nazis needed the beds for wounded soldiers from the warfront. Right. Okay? And here in New York, we were told we need the beds for those who can survive. Right. The minute you start doing these triages, you're dealing in deciding who shall live and who shall die. I'm sorry, but when a society gets to that, they are in the Nazi mentality. There's no difference.
Starting point is 01:59:19 And the Germans have no different mentality, you know, biologically. They're not biologically different from the rest. And we saw that we call them now puppets essentially, the heads of state. And this is the industrialized, wealthy countries in the universe. And they all participated in medically murdering in genocide. I was, you know, in spending the time I have with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., he talks about how his own father was obsessed with reading books about Nazi Germany, because he said, as he said, look, people want to say that this dictator took over and just started killing people, but the truth was, is he was democratically elected by really the one of the most advanced, if not the most advanced intellectual society of that time. And so how did that happen, you know? And so you're, let's just to, and I could speak to you for days, days but you've done the work for us by making this incredible documentary series never again is now global it's going to be premiering Monday so on the 30th of
Starting point is 02:00:29 January the first place people can see it is at Children Health Defense but they didn't just you made the documentary not children have defense and you're giving it to the whole world to share you're not charging for it you've been working for over a year on getting this documentary together talking to other Holocaust survivors and then making, trying to wake people up to what's happening in modern day society so this doesn't happen again. Why? Why put that much energy into this?
Starting point is 02:00:57 Because I really did realize that the parallels that I was seeing were heading into a Holocaust. And I wanted to try to wake people up to that effect. And the way I felt that I could do it because, yeah, it wasn't a filmmaker. was to find Holocaust survivors who can speak their own truth, what they know, what they believe, without any preconditions, without any pre-done script, nothing. I wanted people to just tell what they think as they're watching the world move in a very, very ominous direction as I was. and so that's what we did. We have some 32 people that I interviewed.
Starting point is 02:01:48 There are Holocaust survivors in Canada, in Israel, Netherlands, and their children and grandchildren of survivors and victims. And there are also testimonies by some German people. In one case, it's the nephew of Sophie and Hans Scholl, who were young students, there were young medical students in Germany, and they resisted, they wanted to resist. And all they did was distribute mimeographed sheets telling people, this is wrong, we're going in the wrong.
Starting point is 02:02:39 You don't want this kind of. They were at the university, the caregiver, whatever, he saw them fling some of the leftover leaflets, and he reported them to the Gestapo. They were beheaded. I visited their grave when I was in Munich. But you see, these were, and they called themselves, the little organization, It was the white rose. It was just, you know, it clearly occurred, is that, you know, to try to wake people up,
Starting point is 02:03:19 that this is wrong. Yeah. And this was early on. There were too few people like that, you see. That was the problem. And there are too few people now. We have many more, though, than during the Nazis. For one, we've got thousands and thousands of scientists and doctors around the world.
Starting point is 02:03:37 You are in one way. I mean, certainly not beheaded. but if you take away the career, you go after the licenses of everyone that speaks out against you, which is happening here in the United States of America, Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Ryan Cole. The list goes on. Merrill NASDA.
Starting point is 02:03:53 Yeah, Merrill NASDAZ. I mean, these are, this is what's happening. Yeah, during the Nazis, they didn't. They complied immediately. And the medical profession was the highest number of Nazi. Yeah. They joined the party. They were totally.
Starting point is 02:04:11 in bed with it. But no, now there are, and this is very unusual. People need to think really hard. Why would so many thousands of doctors and scientists risk their career, be willing to go on the ramparts and try to warn people that this is not a vaccine? This is not something to protect you into your health or to improve you in any which Which way, this is a bio weapon that was manufactured in labs and it was not tested for safety. They didn't need safety because they weren't interested in keeping us safe.
Starting point is 02:04:52 Which was a huge message by Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, who is no longer with us due to some health issues that he fought through to bring so much truth to the world. And you've dedicated to the documentary. The documentary is dedicated to Dr. Zelenko. We became friends. And here was exactly an example of what a good doctor, one who practices medicine according to the Hippocratic Oath and to the Nuremberg Code. And that is that in this emergency where he had people dying and nobody knew what to do at first, he did what a good doctor does. He hit the literature to see what has been used before, what might work, and that's how he came up with his protocol. He saved more than 7,000 people's lives, just this one doctor.
Starting point is 02:05:42 Can you imagine if every doctor in America had acted like that, what would be right now? Another doctor in South Africa, Dr. Chetty, similar. Honest doctors who really cared about keeping their patients alive did things that the establishment condemned them for. Why? People should ask, why were doctors and are still dictated and forbidden? to prescribe medicines that have been used for decades. The safety record is already there. You don't need a clinical trial for those drugs. They're tested, and they save lives,
Starting point is 02:06:19 but they weren't interested in saving lives. And I know that many people watch in recoil at the idea that today there are doctors and public health officials who are not interested in actually keeping us alive and healthy, but rather to get rid of us. Population control means population elimination. That's the razor-sharp edge. Yes.
Starting point is 02:06:50 And so I think, first of all, I want to sort of end on the positive, which is there are people like you that aren't afraid to make this comparison, that aren't, you know, afraid to discuss this. And we are now seeing, you know, places like the high wire, children's health defense, others that are giving voices to these doctors and people that are stepping up. Do you feel like we have the opportunity to push back, rise up, and be a better people this time? I mean, you know, when you see, look, people think that pandemic's over, therefore, we're past this, but the digital vaccine passport tracking systems that are being celebrated at the World Economic Forum all of last week and trying to track where we're going to,
Starting point is 02:07:34 go and control our lives, track what's under our skin, turn us all into medical experiment subjects all over the world. Do you have hope? Do you have hope for us? I do because there have been tyrants historically, many tyrants, and they wind up, you know, kind of demolishing themselves because the evil can't create anything positive. There is, people need to move away from this technology, as if technology, technical science, replaces God. And that is what they feel. These are psychopaths, as was hit. I agree with you.
Starting point is 02:08:18 It was not a normal human being. That's why he was chosen to lead. And we've got psychopaths now too. And people need to understand that together, we're so many. We're billions, seven and a half billion. They are supposedly 13 families with a couple of hundreds. Without people's obedience, they have no power. So important.
Starting point is 02:08:47 Vera, I know you don't talk about it a lot, but you made this documentary really with your own blood, sweat, and tears. Not a lot of funding coming in. And even many of the people, professionals, really brilliant, talented people, are not going to be taking credit anonymously working on this with you because of what it can do to your career to be involved in this conversation. But we have a very dedicated audience here that really likes to help make a difference.
Starting point is 02:09:12 This series is brilliant. You're handing it to the world. You're not going to charge for it. It'll be on CHD for free. And after that, you're going to put on Rumble. We will keep it alive. We won't let them censor it. So for people that want to support you, where should they go to say,
Starting point is 02:09:24 I want to donate to the work that you've done. You shouldn't be out there making this all by yourself. Well, the Alliance for Human Research Protection, the website is A-H-R-P. We're a 501c3 organization. We've been in existence since 2001. And we have a website for the movie, I understand right here. We can bring that up. Never Again is now global.com.
Starting point is 02:09:47 And essentially that will take you into the same space. It all goes to the same place. Exactly. One will lead to the other. Yeah, no, I mean, I hope you really see the whole thing. I will. No, no. It's because, you know, because I kind of directed it,
Starting point is 02:10:03 it, it breaks the rules. No script, no preconceived anything. Didn't know where it would go. I trusted that people who wanted to had something on their chest, and you'll see it. That's exactly why they... So it's, you know, it's a work that... I have to contribute what I can, you know,
Starting point is 02:10:29 and that's one of the things in life. You never know when you're challenged, When you ever have to do something, you gotta do it. You know, Vera, you know, I know people watch right now just think, man, if everyone on this planet did a tenth of what you have done in dedicating your life to truth and honesty and still making an impact and making a difference everywhere you go, you are truly an inspiration. And I think you give us hope. And you're instilling hope throughout multiple generations with the work that you're doing. It's truly incredible. It's hard.
Starting point is 02:11:04 When you know where, you know, the darkest of dark, when you know where it's going, you have to stop the train. Indeed. Well, we're here to help you do that. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you very much. And for all of you out there, I highly recommend this Monday, January 30th, we have, Never Again is now Global Premiers, a five-part series.
Starting point is 02:11:25 And you can watch it on Monday, January 30th, at c.hd.tv. To begin with, and then anywhere, that you can watch a video for free. We'll have it on our website. Also, here is just a taste of what this brilliant series is all about. Those who are responsible for the pandemic have used two of the weapons that the Nazis used, which was fear and propaganda. Propaganda feeds the fear, foments it, hardens it. At that time, the fear was against Jews who were accused of being spreaders of infectious disease. The thing that I realized and was horrified by was that medicine under the Nazis had been totally taken over by government.
Starting point is 02:12:39 And so I realized that panic was being fomented so that people would lose confidence in their ability to discern things. And so the best way is listen to public health officials, the experts. The thing that will get us back to the world that we had before coronavirus is the vaccine in getting that out to all seven billion people. Bill Gates assumes the mantle of one who has authority in the medical public health field. There has never been a public health. The only health that ever existed is the individual's health.
Starting point is 02:13:20 Every single medical procedure or medical practice needs to be considered with regards to how does it affect this individual patient? Is it necessary? Why did all of you cooperate? And here's the interesting answer. The Nazis never presented themselves as negative, destructive people. They presented themselves as a party who is trying actually to make things better. And that's what they told people.
Starting point is 02:13:45 When you were taken to a ghetto, it was for your own protection. When you were taken to your camps, you were told, we have work for you there and food and shelter. You want to help you. My grandfather who was in the French army, he got into camps and he always feared after that normal doctors. He saw them doing all kinds of experiments on people, entering the barracks with huge syringers and things like that. There were people sent in Australia to camps.
Starting point is 02:14:19 They didn't kill them there. But the process that we're going through is part of what they were doing to them. Most people just think, well, we need to do what the government says, and they want what is good for us, and they trust them, and they think that's the way it is. It's so scary that you can understand what happened there and then it happens again. It's a deja vu, you know, I feel exactly. I mean, people tell us what to do now. do now, people are telling us how to do, how to go, what to shop.
Starting point is 02:14:49 We went like sheep in the Second World War. It's happening now all over the world where they're in this COVID. I'm against people who are telling me what to do with my body, because it's a lie, it's a big lie. When people are so blind, I can't stand it. I have to try to convince them to open their eyes, to open their ears, not to go like sheep. It's a race between enslavement and expansion of global human consciousness.
Starting point is 02:15:32 Because there are many, many, many, many more of us. I'm advocating for non-violent civil disobedience, an absolute rejection of all the amendments. Resist? Well, never again really, truly is now global because of heroes. like Vera Shrava. What an honor to have her here on the stage with us and other, you know, heroes, Pierre Corey and Angelina, Angelina Dicell, and just all these people that step forward. I just, I hope that when you watch these stories, it inspires you, you know, you see these people come out under the worst of circumstances, standing and facing their fears, Vera going into Germany,
Starting point is 02:16:26 now under threat by that government with some ridiculous, you know, accusations upon her. But at least I hope when you think should I talk to that family member or should I have this difficult conversation and speak my truth, I will say this. If you are not speaking your truth, then the Constitution is not working for you in this country and around the world. Everything that all the power that is endowed to you by your creator is not being glorified. And then I think you're already dead. We're dying. We're walking dead. We are zombies right now because.
Starting point is 02:17:02 We are not speaking our truth. And when you don't, I know those of you are out there, when you don't, what is that doing to your health, holding this thing inside? You know, so you're going to die angry and diseases inside of us because we know what we're supposed to be doing here. This is the time, this whole conversation is now really shifting in our direction. It's easier than ever to have these conversations. No one is saying you're crazy anymore, not the people they can't.
Starting point is 02:17:28 And more and more are saying, you know, I'm sorry for the things that I said. So it's important to really celebrate these heroes that are guides for us to say what we're capable as human beings. I also want to say that getting out publicly, which is something Vera and I have met each other out there in different speaking engagements. It's what is very important to build community to find each other. And so as I've said before, here's the places I'm going to be speaking in the near future if you want to see me live. February 10th, I'm at Anarchipocal. you can still sign up for that beautiful event. I understand you can't even watch some of the speeches from Sonotes,
Starting point is 02:18:05 sitting in some beautiful water there. And then, LA, this is going to be big. This is going to be one of my longest. They've given me 90 minutes at the Conscious Life Expo. Check out my Facebook if you want. I think we have a discount under there if you want to go check that out. But Conscious Life Expo is going to be amazing. And I'm doing a panel.
Starting point is 02:18:23 So there I'm speaking, and then I'm also doing a panel later that day. I'm really looking forward to that. You know, there's a lot of heavy stuff going on, but really this is a story of light and darkness, right? And in order to stay in the light, I also think we have to keep it light sometimes. We get heavy, but we can never forget to laugh. I think it's important to remember that, you know, this is just a crazy experience. We're all in it together. I think we were chosen for this moment.
Starting point is 02:18:51 But because of that, we went and decided this was a week where we were really frustrated with a lot of different things we were seeing. and people out there like, how could they be like that? And we just thought, you know what, it's time to clear away the mothballs and pull out, you know, a segment we used to do just because I think it's time for a little levity around reality. And of course, what I'm saying is this week we're bringing back Vaxhole of the week. That's right. And what is a Vaxhole? Well, this was the definition we came up with years ago.
Starting point is 02:19:27 This is what a Vaxhole is. definition. This was in the urban dictionary. Not sure if it's still there. It's a lot of war around it. But a person who quotes vaccine safety science that does not exist. That's what makes you a Vaxhole. And if you're wondering who is this week's Vaxole of the Week? Drumroll, please. That's right. It goes to Mika Brzynski and Joe Scarborough, who are the host of Morning Joe. I believe they're married or at least they're close with each other, have been for some time. And if you're wondering how in this crazy week of people really saying some incredible things and doing some very dark things, how they rose to the top to get the illustrious title
Starting point is 02:20:14 of Vaxholes of the week, I think I'll just let them say it in their own words. Hold on to your seats for this. I had not gotten my COVID booster. Which one? The fourth. The fourth. Because, you know, we went to London, then got COVID. Yeah. Got completely knocked down for a while. Yes, you did. Yeah. Months. Exactly. Well, I wouldn't say mine.
Starting point is 02:20:36 You were knocked down for months. Months? Yes. I wouldn't say mine. No, it was a long time. So anyway, weeks. Let's take teenage as a week. So it was weeks.
Starting point is 02:20:46 I was fatigued for a long time. It took three months. I'll say it's very interesting, though, because we're learning a lot more about what your resistance to COVID may be. Yeah. What was that back in September? Just got got my checkup. and the antibodies are like at 100% right now. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:21:06 So it kind of works out. But again, we found out the boosters, the vaccines, they don't stop the disease, but they certainly do make a big impact. Instead of me being down for a month with fatigue, if I'd taken the booster, I would have probably sneezed and said, what was that and kept going? That's the difference. And I love when people go, oh, I'm not going to go because of the difference. So you still get COVID.
Starting point is 02:21:29 I know. That's not the purpose of it. That's never been the purpose of the flu shot. And so it builds up your resistance, just like actually getting COVID builds up your resistance. So keep you from behind the hospital. So do yourself a favor, right? And get off the websites that Chinese religious cults
Starting point is 02:21:49 are putting as a front so they can get a stronghold in America and in your mind. And get yourself a booster shot. It's important. I mean, I don't even know. I mean, if I even have to do any explanation on that, then obviously you're probably in that camp. I think we all know people that are like this, that say things like this, and even follow people like this. And I would say, take this opportunity to hug that person, kiss that person, love on them, because they may not be here forever. That's all I've got to say. You know, we just don't know what happens in life.
Starting point is 02:22:31 Sometimes people can just be taken away from you even after they've had their four COVID shots and are still knocked down for months at a time. I just want to put it out there. I guess he thinks that somehow being down for months that the immunity he acquired over the first three shots was short of the fourth one. But that was the reason why I guess it only lasted for months for him as his wife is saying. But I also want to put out there just because I'm just a person about example. I caught COVID. I didn't have any of the vaccines. I think I'm somewhere in the same age range as those two.
Starting point is 02:23:08 And my COVID Joe lasted for just over six hours. That's the honest truth. I did very well. My wife Lee, she caught COVID too. Hers a little bit longer, I think a day or two, but no months, no months in our family anyway. And so I'm not, I know it does affect us all differently. I'm not saying that it doesn't. But I'm just saying you have no idea that it wouldn't have been a couple of hours for you
Starting point is 02:23:31 had you not gotten the vaccine. You can't do a double-blind experiment in your own home, and clearly you're not doing that. Anyway, I want to make this point that we are watching the WEF crumble. I know there's been a lot of fear around it. And I said, we've got to put away the fear. You've got to realize that these people are chuckleheads, and they're having to push a bunch of agendas that make no sense to anybody with a brain. And I assure you, if Joe Scarborough keeps talking about the success, you know, you know,
Starting point is 02:23:57 of the COVID booster that way, this job's going to get easier and easier. And they're going to parade the Yvall Noah Harare's out there. This is what winning feels like. Get used to it. There's a lot more coming. They're going to be pissed. They're going to attack. They're going to try and gaslight us and maybe even have other viruses that they're going to
Starting point is 02:24:18 try to make us afraid of. But seize this moment, revel in this moment, and gain power from. this moment that is telling us we're right. Our words are having power. And guess what? More importantly than that, people are listening to us. They're listening to you. And I want to thank all of you out there that are supporting our works so that we can put the evidence in your hands. I'm psyched to have Tracy B's joining us so that she'll be putting more evidence in your hands in the Jeffrey Jackson's of the world. This is how we do it. This is what the informed consent action network is all about. Thank you for being a part of our network. Thank you for being brave.
Starting point is 02:25:07 Someday they're going to write history books about you. And I can't wait to see when our grandchildren and our great grandchildren and those in the future look back and say, wow, those were spectacular times. We'll be talking more about those times next week on the high wire. I'll see you then. Thank you.

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