The Highwire with Del Bigtree - NEW EMAIL EXPOSES FAUCI’S KNOWLEDGE OF LAB-MADE VIRUS
Episode Date: July 25, 2023A new unredacted email from Fauci sees the former NIAID head admitting to gain-of-function research in Wuhan. What about other biosafety labs around the world? The media is now in fear mode over a new... tick-borne illness being called the ‘greatest public health threat.’ Does this have lab-tinkering fingerprints on it? #Fauci #LabLeak #Wuhan #GainOfFunctionBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.
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One of the things that we talk about here, it's been a beat since literally almost day one of this pandemic was the origins of this.
And we're going to expand on this a little bit and get outside of Wuhan.
But there's been some new news on this, some breaking news.
And in order to frame this correctly, does everyone remember when Ram Paul was questioning Dr. Fauci and there was a lot of denials going on?
Sounded like this.
Take a look.
Dr. Fauci, knowing that it is a crime to lie to Congress, do you wish to retract your statement of
May 11th where you claimed that the NIH never funded gain of function research in Wuhan.
Senator Paul, I have never lied before the Congress, and I do not retract that statement.
This paper that you were referring to was judged by qualified staff up and down the chain as not being gain of function.
What was, let me finish.
You take an animal virus and you increase its visibility to humans, you're saying that's not going.
That is correct. And Senator Paul, you do not know what you are talking about, quite frankly. And I want to say that officially. You do not know what you are talking about.
Them fighting words. Well, well, fortunately, we have some work from the select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic. And they have redacted some of Anthony Fauci's internal emails that were gleaned through FOIA requests and certain
Yeah, some of the ones we got. I mean, it's amazing, right? These guys work for us. What about health would have to be hidden from us in these emails as different groups, including ours, we're, you know, making FOIA requests, freedom of information act requests. There are employees, but what were they hiding?
And on something as important as this topic.
So we have the redacted version of this email.
You can see there's this big box that was redacted.
We have no clue what's going on.
But it says the call with Jeremy Farah, welcome trust, went well.
And then you're thinking, you can't leave me hanging here.
So this was unredacted by the Select Subcommittee in the coronavirus pandemic recently.
And we were able to see a window into this entire email.
We can read this now.
And we look at this.
And basically it's the beginning of February.
This is something we've covered for a very long.
time. This is Christian Anderson, Jeremy Farrar, Francis Collins, Tony Fauci. They're all getting
together saying, where did this come from? What's going on? Did we fund this research? How do we know this?
So Anthony Fauci gets on a call with all these people and he's giving this update in this email.
And in this email, it's basically saying that, well, from the highly credible scientists he talked to,
the immunologist, that there's some unusual aspects of this virus that, you know, this
mutation, molecular data was consistent with engineering.
You know, there was some intentional tampering, perhaps, of these insertions.
And then Fauci goes on to say this in this email.
He says, the suspicion was heightened by the fact that scientists in Wuhan University are known to have been working on gain of function experiments to determine the molecular mechanisms associated with bat viruses adapting to human infection and the outbreak originated in Wuhan.
So there's a little bit of an inconvenient fact.
Yeah.
He's basically saying, and Wuhan University is right down the road from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
He's saying this is known to be doing gain of function experiments.
They're doing these things.
They're enhancing the infectability of these viruses.
So we keep seeing data showing this thing was perhaps a byproduct of these experiments in Wuhan.
And what's amazing about that, too, is think about this.
That email is being sent out in the height of this conversation.
you know, we're in media saying, look, the fact that this is so close, this outbreak is happening
so close to a lab that John Stewart, the comedian, so perfectly put, the lab is literally named
exactly after the virus is now that, you know, out among us a bat coronavirus and a back coronavirus
lab. And so in the middle of this, you have Tony Fauci clearly saying there's gain of function
going on here. Now, I suppose, the only thing that's left is whether or not American dollars are
involved in that exact word grouping gain of function, which it seems just obvious. But in the middle
of all that, what they're doing is getting together. And days later, this is when they're going to say
absolutely no way this came from a lab, absolutely been proven to be natural origin, even though
Ferrari, many of these that are in the conversation and scientists have said, we've been over
this and over this. They've been saying, look, this looks like it came from a lab. It looks like,
you know, there are modifications that just don't seem to be contributed to by nature.
And so now we really are, and I knew all this is going to start backfiring on Fauci.
He is saying one thing and then leading the world literally in a wild goose chase.
To me, also the cover-up of the lab, making sure that no one went and investigated this lab.
To me, it's treasonist.
I believe this man we're looking at right now should be tried for treason, putting the entire world at risk,
for hiding the fact that he knew gain of function was happening.
This very well could be a, you know, bio weapon of sorts,
even if it wasn't released on purpose,
the fact that it is going to cause harm and death worldwide,
and his fingerprints were all over it.
Clearly he was trying to hide it.
Now, this isn't going to go away.
We're not going to let it go away.
And as we reported on the revelations just a couple of weeks ago,
we do know the names now of the three people that show the first symptoms of this.
They were actual scientists and researchers working in that Wuhan Institute of Orology,
working with the bat coronaviruses. So again, we keep seeing this data. It's just like how far is this
going to go? So remember Robert Redfield, he's the ex-CDC director, and he had been saying really
out front since day one, we need to question this origins. He thinks that it did come from a lab.
There was an accidental release. And he was talked, they talked to him about this, this email redaction.
He said this, this is the headline, ex-CDC director says unredacted, Fouchy gain of function email
reveals aggressive attempt to change narrative. And finally, we can.
get some movement from the Biden administration on this piece on the funding. U.S. government
suspends funding so that Wuhan Lab does not receive another dollar. That's what the Biden administration
has done over Stonewalling COVID probe. So we have this headline now. This is what's happening.
No more money goes to Wuhan Lab three years later after this pandemic has basically ravished the
world. The U.S. is going to stop funding this. But now we're talking about, that's kind of like
the explanation point on that topic.
but we're talking about more of an expansion here.
And remember, Bill Gates had been woven into this story all over the place,
from the vaccine research for the COVID vaccine,
to the actual just monitoring of infectious viruses around the world.
And he said this during that time.
Take a listen.
Yeah.
I believe we can prepare for the future and with the right tools,
be able to stop pandemics before they become widespread.
However, you know, a future pandemic could be far worse in terms of its fatality.
It could be, you know, intentionally caused bioterrorism.
So we've said it time and time again, these guys, it's like they're psychic, right?
They predict things are coming and then, lo and behold, how do they know?
Here we are in the middle of it.
And we also remember too Fauci was saying that he was sure President Trump would,
would, you know, face some type of pathogen during his.
presidency. Which, by the way, just for people that maybe watch this for the same time, you know,
right now or maybe just joining us, epidemics typically are about 50 years apart, sort of like a
massive earthquake, you know, and for Fauci to say, I am certain that in Donald Trump's,
you know, time in office, he will face a major pathogen. It's a little eerie. It's a little weird.
Just put that out there. Take that as you will. I believe as reporters and journalists and researchers,
anytime we see the media start pushing fear headlines after what we just experienced as a world
three years of this we have to question these headlines we have to question we have to dig into
them so this is what we're seeing out the UK now so check out these headlines killer virus certain
certain to reach UK as expert warn it's a case of when and not if they're talking you look at that
sub byline there crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever has been described as the current biggest threat to
public health, an expert told me it spreads easily and is painful. Biggest threat to public health.
Never heard of it. What are these people talking about? You heard of it? I haven't.
Amazing. This is kind of our job to monitor these things. So another headline, deadly virus guaranteed,
again, putting some fear in there. Is this a nudge unit? Guaranteed to reach UK and defeat lockdown
measures. Experts warn. So now this brings us, we're going to rip the, we're going to just rip the lid off
this thing. So we've been hyper focused as, you know, on this show and as the world,
on one sliver of this biosafety level research.
We have the Wuhan lab.
Obviously, we've been reporting on that.
But these labs are all over the world.
And so we hear about this biggest threat to public health now,
this Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever.
Let's dig into this a little bit.
So that brings us to the Independent Republic of Georgia.
This is a country that sits on Russia's southern border.
And in 2011, the United States built a biosafety lab,
a BSL level three lab there.
And this was the headline in 2011.
Senator, they're talking about Senator Richard Lugar that was named after him.
Aplods opening of Nunn Lugar Biothreat Laboratory in Tbilisi, Georgia.
So we funded this thing.
We built it.
In fact, we literally built it from the ground up.
Here is a government contract for $170 million to the American Civil Engineering Company,
CH2M Hill Incorporated,
place of performance, place where this money was going, Georgia to build this lab.
They're dealing with all the safety mechanisms in this lab and the engineering for it.
And now let's go to Dr. Charles Videk.
He works for the U.S. Centers for Disease Control.
And this was an article that was put out by the U.S. Embassy in Georgia.
And he was answering questions on the type of research at the Lugar Center.
Listen to this.
He says, in terms of the work that they do at the Lugar Center on insects,
It is designed to make sure that they can understand how natural infections in this country
that are transmitted by insects can be studied and how you can fight against them, how you can prevent them.
So that's the type of work that goes on here on NCDC, that's Georgia's Centers for Disease Control.
There are political statements made in Russia about research on spreading biological agents by insects.
That is not something that we have ever studied here in the Lugar Center.
We do study how to prevent diseases that are nationally transmitted right now in Georgia.
there is an outbreak of Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever that's transmitted by ticks, of course.
We have scientists who have, who have to study those ticks so you know how to prevent that type of infection.
That's the type of work that's going on, 100%.
Where have we heard that before?
There's something so guilty sounding about.
I don't know why.
I mean, maybe it's just when you're accused, but suddenly it's like, and this accusation made by Putin that we're on his border and somehow designing insects that could carry diseases, that is not what's happening.
And what we're doing is just studying diseases that carry, I mean, the studying insects that carry disease and make sure you know that there's, you know, those two ideas aren't crossing.
It reminds me like Bart Simpson, you know, I wasn't there, wasn't me, can't prove anything.
Right. And so that, I mean, it's kind of similar to Wuhan. We're finding these bat coronaviruses. We're engineering them. We're increasing their ability to infect humans.
And we have to do this because this is a dangerous thing. And we need to develop a vaccine.
so we can get ahead of this. We have to do it. So we go to Lugar Center. They have a PowerPoint
presentation that was up there, and it's titled Lugar Center and Service of Public Health in Georgia.
They're talking about the challenges and solutions. And you see here on slide 16, there was an outbreak of this
hemorrhagic fever in 2009. Remember, the Lugar Center was built in 2011. Then you see at this,
on this PowerPoint, 2012, there's several more cases they found. 2013. There was 13 cases, 2014,
there was 23 cases and so on. So we have this.
this increasing level of these hemorrhagic fevers being found there.
But then the United States military becomes involved.
So this was from the U.S. Army medical research directed in Georgia.
And it says this.
In 2015, Georgia National Centers for Disease Control and the Walter Reed Army Institute of
Research signed a memorandum of understanding to formalize the partnership between these
institutions.
The importance of this long-term investment in the compliance with international standards
has been validated recently with Georgia's successful campaign.
to combat public health challenges, including the COVID-19 pandemic, and a recent cluster of the
Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever cases. So now you have the Walter Reed Army Institute in there
working with them for these hemorrhagic fever cases. But we look at this whole thing. And for our
audience, you know, we're checking off some boxes. We're just asking questions here. Boy, you know,
we're really, this is the biggest public health threat we've never heard of. Let's look at,
let's look at some of the lab history on this first. But for our audience, the big question is,
are they working on a vaccine?
You bet they are.
Here's a 2020 study.
A DNA-based vaccine protects against Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever virus disease in macaque
models.
They've tested this in monkeys in 2020.
Three years ago, they have a DNA-based vaccine that's in the work.
So this, again, we're putting this here.
We're stamping this in here.
Hopefully this thing does not become a future disease.
The biggest health threat does not run rampant.
But we need to ask these questions.
When the headlines start pushing fear, we know there's nudge units that work with the media.
We found that out, especially in the UK during the COVID response.
We have to ask why the fear, why are these experts trying to drum up fear, especially in the wake?
We have a traumatized public.
It's not hard to scare people with headlines like that.
So we have to ask these questions.
Absolutely.
And I want to point out to our audience that's growing all the time.
You know, we are giving you early warning, just like we did on monkeypox, so that we were able to really spread the word.
that this is a fear tactic.
It is not affecting that many people.
And I think the monkey pox, you know, next pandemic was really shut down
because of people in our audience and intelligent people around the world
starting to talk about it.
We should talk about this.
We should be talking about it and warning people that they're warning us about this.
And we should ask ourselves why.
And I just want to put out there, right?
We are not a network that dives deep into conspiracy theory.
There are plenty of podcasts out there that do that.
We stick to what we can prove in the science that exists and what we know is going on.
But I will ask this question.
In the history of living in the United States of America, as an American citizen,
have you ever known a time where we are not looking at the worst-case scenario of development in any type of weapon space?
If Russia is investigating something, don't you think we are?
If China is investigating something, don't you think we are?
Whether it's right or wrong, gain a function or not, my experience,
right now and what we've sort of proven through time is if the idea exists at all, we have
top scientists that are working on it. I think we should stop accepting when they say there's
no way we're doing that. And I think Mike Rowe in my interview with him last week, who's not even
in this space, but he really proved we need to live with an advanced skepticism now and is now
upon the experts to win back our trust. I don't trust them. I don't think you should. And
I think we should assume that the United States of America, yes, this great country we live in is addicted to war.
It is clearly pushing wars whether or not they make any sense.
And it is constantly at the cutting edge of building war tools.
We have to know that's true.
And for some people, they say, good, that's the only way you're going to protect us.
I understand that argument.
But what I do not understand is when your government says there's no way we're going near that whatsoever.
Do I look stupid?
I don't think you are either.
