The Highwire with Del Bigtree - NEW HHS SECRETARY MAKES INFORMED CONSENT CORNERSTONE OF THE DEPARTMENT
Episode Date: March 5, 2025The news around public health is shifting in recent weeks including legacy news questioning Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla about vaccine liability shields, the postponement of the CDC’s ACIP meeting, stat...e health departments no longer promoting mass vaccination, and a halt on vaccine advertising.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.
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The real reason you and I have been doing this for almost a decade is because the corporate media is a failed system.
And on the ashes of their failed system right now, we're seeing people like Bill Gates and others that are doing the rounds in the media having to promote themselves because they're not getting the free promotion they used to get before, you know, really before COVID.
Another person that's doing that is Pfizer CEO Albert Borla.
He recently was on CNBC.
and I couldn't believe what I heard from his mouth,
and especially the question that was asked by the journalist.
Take a listen.
Okay.
Albert, it's great to have you on.
Thanks for being with us.
I realize it's only one piece of a broader portfolio,
but it is the piece that continues to get outsized attention,
and that is your vaccine portfolio.
Vaccine makers like yourself, largely shielded from liability.
If the products are safe and effective,
what is the need to continue to shield,
to have these liability shields?
And what happens if those shields are changed or go away completely?
If the product is not safe and effective, we'll never get approval from FDA or from the other health authorities.
They are very strict when they are approving products, particularly for vaccines, because exactly is given to healthy people.
However, in a system that litigations can flourish, anyone can create a demand that the accident in the car.
happened because of a vaccine. And with a jury is going to be maybe a flip of a coin. And this is, I think,
why the Congress, it was not an administration, had passed this legislation that is protecting
those that they have approval from the FDA from further liabilities.
And now, Albert, we're going to go to a question that we've been forbidden to ask for 30 years.
Why is your product?
Why can't people sue over damage to your product dance, corporate man?
Right.
I mean, first of all, this is a talking point we have beat for nearly 10 years now.
And finally, it's one of the first times we've ever heard the question asked by a mainstream
reporter, which is why the liability protection up until this moment, you know, and really just
over this last year and Robert Kennedy Jr. bringing a lot of limelight to this issue.
But ultimately, did you know that these vaccines are protected from liability?
I can't tell you how many senators and congressmen, assembly members, I have met with over the
years that as soon as you say there's no liability.
What are you talking about?
It's like the liability protection.
They have no idea this is the case.
So at least we are definitely moving out of the space of we don't know that there's liability
protection and it's one of the only products in the world.
And the follow-up question from that reporter, we know we're there when she asked this question.
Well, if you need liability protection to avoid the lawsuits who would be against vaccinations for someone driving around the road,
how do any of your pharmaceutical products survive?
I mean, wouldn't that be the same argument for all of your other products that don't have liability protection?
I had a car accident because of Zempick or I died.
I mean, where are those lawsuits?
I mean, certainly every other product you make has side effects.
those you're allowed to sue for.
So what makes vaccines any different?
I don't think he'd be able to explain that.
I don't think anyone can explain that.
I think this is the craziest thing that's ever happened.
Why does this one product need liability protection?
Anyway, amazing moment.
Clearly things are changing very fast.
And as people will find out, as we found out through digging,
when you get to the bottom of that rabbit hole,
he appeals to authority right there and says,
well, the FDA approved it, so it has to be safe.
And the FDA will say, well, the pharmaceutical company's testing.
So it must be safe, but in the middle there, there's children getting hurt.
People getting hurt from these products.
And so as we're moving into this grand pivot, this health revolution, this medical revolution
in America, why are people like Albert Borla and Bill Gates out doing the media tour,
trying to defend their products and their ideologies?
It's because Kennedy here is a symbol of a change and a revolution, but he's not just, it's just
one person.
We can't rely on him at the federal level.
So what we're seeing is we're seeing states backfilling.
this idea of the people's health, ending chronic disease.
And so maybe Albert Borla was going on the media tour
because of this bill in Kentucky.
This is HB648.
And if you go into it a little bit and you read in Kentucky,
this bill is still in session.
So it's not yet a law.
But here's what they want.
They want a manufacturer of a liability shield product,
Albert Borla, his vaccines.
They shall ensure that a placebo controlled study
of that product has been completed before its manufactured
marketed, distributed, and administered in Kentucky.
Imagine that.
And then what they want beyond that is they want that placebo-controlled study to go on for at least five years to collect safety data.
And then they want that safety data to be given publicly immediately.
All of that in one bill.
That is enough to decimate an entire, you know, hidden liability-free injectable product lines that have been hiding behind bad science.
So this is wonderful.
But it's not just the vaccine space we're seeing this in.
We're seeing these backfill, I'll call them, legislation to really move this forward.
We're seeing, obviously, in Utah, Texas, West Virginia, these snap bills trying to get food off the assistance programs, ultra-processed food.
But in Arizona, the state house has just passed a bill that is going to ban certain ultra-process foods from schools.
This now goes to the Senate for debate and a vote.
So this was a, I believe this was a unanimous vote, too, 59-0.
Then over to Utah, Utah's doing some pretty amazing stuff.
We see them becoming the first.
This is if Governor Spencer there signs this bill.
It's on his desk.
Utah could become the first state to ban fluoride in his drinking water.
This passed the House in the Senate there.
It went to his desk.
This is a huge.
I mean, we're talking 50, 60 years in the making on that bill.
And this is just the opening salvo of what we're seeing across the United States.
It's so exciting.
I want to point out, though, because one of the things is, you know, there's a lot
of us that arrest us. We want Robert Kennedy Jr. to get right to it. But look at what's
happening, right? It's almost as though what really just needed to happen was it needed to be
okay to talk about these things on the news. It needed to be okay to bring bills like this forward
because what you are not having is the CDC and FDA and NIH and HHS and the Robert Kennedy
Jr. going to Arizona, going to Utah and fighting that bill and saying that's against what the
government is standing for. You know, censor them. Censor this bill. Censor all of their
social media. Don't let any of these senators talk.
That's what we just came out of.
That's what we just came out of.
This dark winter that Biden described where we were censored.
And no one could bring bills like this.
No one could ask questions like CNBC just asked.
The whole world is changing.
Don't you see that just by Robert Kennedy Jr. being there saying, no, no, no, no, everybody
hold back.
Go ahead and let these states have these conversations.
That alone is going to create a tidal wave of change.
Right.
And it's not just up to the government to fix everything.
but it's the political and cultural cover that's being allowed right now by people like Kennedy
and even Trump to a certain degree in power positions that allows these changes, these comfortable
changes to come without being opposed or censored. But at the same time, it's business as usual
when it comes to conflicts of interest and revolving doors, something that a lot of people in politics
right now are trying to stop. And this is FDA head. We have stat news reporting, Patrizia Kavazzoni,
former head of FDA's drug center joins Pfizer as their chief medical officer, Del.
She was the head of the FDA's Center for Drug Evaluation and Research.
Top dog there.
She's going over to Pfizer now and become their chief medical officer of that division for them.
So clearly, I mean, she's going the way of Julie Gerberding from CDC to Merck.
And then obviously Scott Gottlieb, who's went from FDA to board of directors at Pfizer.
We have all these people that this revolving door is spinning hard.
So hopefully we'll see some change in that.
But moving on with this news,
There's so much news covering, we're just hitting it from all angles.
So the ASIP, the advisory committee on immunization practices, this is the CDC's committee
that puts what vaccines are on the schedule for children and adults.
Deli, you and I have been there testifying in the open sections where the public can talk
before COVID for they shut it all down.
And we've been speaking to them.
Well, that has been postponed.
They have their four times a year they meet.
They're not meeting this month.
I'll tell you that.
This is the headline U.S. vaccine advisor.
meeting postponed after Kennedy takes top health job.
There's a lot of conflicting information here.
They said, well, ASEF themselves did it.
And then someone said, well, Trump had an executive order where they're looking at all
the federal agencies and their committees to reduce government waste.
And then people say, well, it's just the specter of Kennedy coming in.
He must have done something.
But regardless, it's postponed.
This is a welcome development for a lot of people in our environment here that have been watching
this, watch them rubber stamp unanimously COVID vaccines for kids and children and infant.
across the board. But let's go on. HHS orders CDC to halt some vaccine ads saying
RFK Jr. wants message focused on, wait for it, informed consent. Wow. So we go into this article
here. This is a big development. The Department of Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary
for Public Affairs informed the CDC that HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wanted
advertisements that promote the idea of informed consent in vaccine decision making.
That is amazing. I mean, that's amazing. And look, folks, you have to recognize this is flu.
season, right? This is that moment where you start getting bombarded by all the CDC, you know,
PSAs telling you to go out and get that vaccine to protect yourself. Well, those are being stalled.
Maybe you should just know the facts. I'm sure Kennedy right now is working on how many facts can
we get into an ad? What would informed consent look like? Right. And, you know, as we know,
vitamins, minerals, food, they don't have their own PR campaign. So you're never going to hear anything
on these ads saying, eat this or take this vitamin because they're just not,
They don't have a seat at the table, but what kind of maybe informed consent are they talking about?
Well, let's look at this study.
It's a Japanese study.
This was an increased risk of non-influenza respiratory virus infections associated with the receipt of activated influenza vaccine.
So you don't hear about this because informed consent is not fully informed on these ads.
And what does this study say?
I mean, the title kind of says it all.
But when you really look into this study, if people were to see this along with the ad and say, well, you decide.
It says we randomize 115 children to trivalent.
inactivated influenza vaccine or placebo over the following nine months, the vaccine recipients had
increased risk of virologically confirmed non-influenza infections. Look at that relative risk.
440% basically is what you're talking about there. So that's interesting. You're not getting
the flu, but you're going to get some other stuff. Yeah, more than four times more likely to develop
an upper respiratory infection. Four times. And this is what we've said over and over again.
And the science only looks at, did we stop the flu?
Yeah, okay, mission accomplished.
But hello, you know, side-glancing view here.
You cause four times the rate of all the other infections like RSV and coronavirus and neurovirus and all this.
These things are destroying the immune system, but you're not looking at because you're only focused on the one disease.
So let's make it clear.
You're limiting that disease profile that you aimed at, but you expanded and increased all the rest.
Right.
And also, I mean, that's not even to talk about, as we know, safety.
We're just going to put those blinders on and go,
oh, we've only looked at it for 40 days after 41 days and beyond for the rest of your life.
We don't really care what happens.
But I want to go off on a tangent here for a second because when it comes to public figures,
we're talking about flu, the Pope's illness is surrounded in intrigue over possible
resident nation.
These are what the headlines are greeted with in New York Times.
This guy has pneumonia in both lungs.
He has kidney issues.
I mean, if he's a public figure, we should know there should be some type of rule.
or law, the public figure is being used to scaremonger people to get a flu vaccine or has these
mysterious illnesses. Did he get the COVID shot? Did he get his flu shot? How is he being treated?
Because he certainly went against the conventional wisdom of the Catholic Church saying he has said he doesn't
care about aborted fetal cell lines, got really behind the COVID vaccine. Has been, I believe,
out there believing in, you know, flu vaccine. So did he get them? Because it doesn't look like he's
doing very well. And so those are questions we should have. Because if what we, we
We know in that study four times a rate of upper respiratory infection.
Nephont, what does that turn into pneumonia?
Right?
Right.
Yes, absolutely.
Good question.
So we're seeing these moves now.
We're seeing at the federal level with Kennedy with informed consent in flu vaccine promotion.
But that follows these state movements.
So we're seeing kind of a positive lockstep here.
Just last week we talked about Louisiana.
Their Department of Health, their surgeon general said you will no longer promote mass vaccination.
So they basically said their funds are not going to go to promoting mass vaccination more.
People can make their own choice with their medical practitioner and talk about the whole profile,
all the safety and the risks of this shot.
So that was huge.
And then the final kind of headline, breaking headline over the last couple days is this is a move
by HHS and Kennedy.
So there's no wondering about this.
Multi-million dollar Biden-era COVID-19 Vax project halted by Trump's HHS.
Well, it's not Trump because when you go in this article, Kennedy actually gives a statement
to Fox News Digital. He says, while it is crucial that the Department of Health and Human Services
support pandemic preparedness, four years of the Biden administration's failed oversight have made
it necessary to review agreements for vaccine production, including Bax Arts. That's the vaccine in
question. Kennedy's setting comments provide Fox Digital. He says, I look forward to working with
Vax Art and medical experts to ensure this work produces safe, effective, and fiscal-minded vaccine
technology. That's- Can we just have a moment of silence?
Can we just have a moment of silence? We are watching quotes from the government health regulatory agencies, and who are they coding our own Robert Kennedy Jr. talking about informed consent, laying out that I am not going to push forward a vaccine program that we need to review. We're going to see, is it really making a safe product? Is it being done correctly? Right here, right here, the world is changing? I mean, it is just,
So spectacular, one of the first quotes we've seen in the new age of health in the United States of America and the world.
I want to put that, I want to frame that on my wall.
I mean, it's so amazing what is happening here.
And you know what's interesting about that statement by Kennedy is it's kind of like a hybrid Doge style approach because he's saying, I want to look at this vaccine through the lens of obviously a fiscally minded view, but also safe and efficacy.
So harms and risks.
you have cutting government costs and spending, but you also have this,
now we're looking at pharmaceutical products and medical countermeasures for possible
pandemics with a safety risk profile. That's gigantic.
