The Highwire with Del Bigtree - NEW TWIST IN CHINESE WHITE LUNG SAGA

Episode Date: December 16, 2023

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We've been reporting from this desk for almost four years now on the COVID response and this mysterious respiratory illness coming out of China. And people think that's all over. But a lot of our viewers have alerted us and they really wanted to report on something that is coming out of China again. A mysterious respiratory illness. And if you haven't been looking at the news, it looks like this. Another illness outbreak in China is sparking fears of a new pandemic threat. Big concerns over another virus in China. China is dealing with a surge in respiratory illness in children.

At hospital emergency rooms, the sick children just keep coming. From toddlers to teens, mostly with respiratory infections, including pneumonia. Now, Chinese local media reported earlier that some hospitals in northern China are at capacity with young patients as clusters of what was originally reported as undiagnosed pneumonia have been on the rise since last month. The headlines here about a respiratory disease outbreak triggered alarm bells. and prompted the World Health Organization to ask Chinese authorities for answers. Ohio is now the first state in the nation to report an outbreak of pediatric pneumonia cases. Doctors say the white lung syndrome is similar to the respiratory illnesses already sweeping China and parts of Europe. In Warren County, north of Cincinnati, health officials have declared an outbreak of pneumonia in children.

They say 145 kids have been diagnosed with the respiratory infections since August. And I'm sure we're going to hear about cases of kind of overcrowded pediatric emergency rooms around the country. The director of the CDC believes this mysterious illness is not new or novel, but rather related to existing pathogens like COVID, flu, RSV. Doctors say they're seeing a surge in a bacterium that can infect the lungs. Based on the information we have now, we believe there is no new or novel pathogen that these are related to existing pathogens. You know, when I watch that, what's going through my mind right now is I'm trying to remember if the news talked about like a respiratory illness in China back 15, 20 years ago. Was that news? I can't, I feel like we're so used to this pattern now that I don't really remember what was news.

Right. You know? It's almost like a societal trauma. Yeah. It comes to these medical anomalies that are just popping up and infecting people. And they just beat on it in white lung. I mean, it just sounds so incredibly terrifying. Yeah, and you can understand why people would say,

can you guys get to the bottom of this? Help us really sort this out, because that looks pretty scary if you're watching that. So let's dig into this a little bit. So let's go to Reuters and see what their reporting says, much like that interview, the clip we just saw. It says, what do we know about China's respiratory illness surgeon? It says, health authorities have not detected any unusual or novel pathogens.

The WHO later said, and doctors and public health researchers say there's no evidence for international alarm. Authorities in Taiwan, however, this week advised the elderly, very young, and those with poor immunity to avoid travel to China. So that's interesting. Now, it goes on and say this. It talks about actual Chinese doctors. Doctors and China and experts abroad are not too worried about the situation in China, noting that many other countries say similar increases in respiratory diseases are easing or happening after pandemic measures. And then they even quote the head of a pediatric department in Beijing.

And she says, the cases that we are seeing is nothing unusual at the moment. moment because it's still the same cough, colds, fever presentation, and the good thing about it, it is actually treatable. So this is something, we heard none of this during the early days of COVID, none of this, not treatable, we don't know what this is, and the symptoms are all over the board. So now they're saying we do know what this is. Right. It's interesting too, like when you see this, you know, Taiwan saying don't let the elderly travel. I mean, if you're weak, if you're elderly, if you're really frail, isn't that kind of just a statement that's always been, like, it's cold and fluid season, maybe just like, you know, stay, hang out, drink soup, have the family visit you.

Right. Now it's like this, it's used as like a shock and awe moment, like elderly being told to not travel right now. Well, yeah, people are coughing and sneezing. Right. All of the place, like, which sounds like some, at least there's some level of that reality inside a regulatory agency going, everybody chill out. It's cold and flu season. And what we're never seeing from this reporting now that you mentioned,

that is if you're gonna travel, maybe take some vitamin D, that's supported by research, maybe take some vitamin C, you're never going to hear any of that stuff. Well, one of the alarms is, so that started in China, the reporting we saw, but then it moved over to Europe. So this is where people started to become alarm because there was, again, it was a very similar rollout as the COVID situation. So it says here, child pneumonia cases emerge in Europe as China battles wave of respiratory illness.

It says a rise in mycoplasma pneumonia, the bacteria that causes the infection, and the has been reported in Ireland, France, Netherlands, in Denmark. Now, mycoplasm pneumonia, it's a bacterium, and it's a common cause of community transmission of this pneumonia, so it's nothing new whatsoever. All right. So this is what seems to be the culprit.

This is what everybody's reporting in this. Okay, interesting. Then it moves over now to Ohio. So Ohio becomes the first kind of hotbed of these respiratory illnesses you're seeing in children. So we look back to the reporting here, and it says, extremely high number of pneumonia, cases strike kids in Ohio County. And we go to the Warren County Health District that's right

outside Cincinnati and they put out a press release. They said at this time we have report, we have 145 reported cases of pneumonia in children ages 3 to 14 years. There have been no reported deaths. While the number of cases is higher this year, the severity is similar to previous years. Most cases recover at home and are treated with antibiotics. So there again, you're seeing, you're seeing this, it's not too crazy, but it's treatable. Right. So let's look, we're hearing a lot of words here, mycoplasm pneumonia, we're hearing even white lung syndrome.

So this article is going to talk about this here. It says how to understand Ohio's white lung syndrome, pneumonia outbreak, and why it's not linked to China. So in here, they talk to a gentleman named Clint Koenig. He's a family physician and medical director there in Warren County. He says we have no evidence whatsoever of any connection to any outbreak statewide or internationally. He also goes on to say, we don't have a medical director. any evidence to suggest there is anything but routine standard winter bugs causing pneumonia

in higher rates in kids. So you're hearing this word white lung syndrome. Yeah, I mean it's really, I've never heard that. What's as weird is they're saying there's no new pathogen. Well, why have I never heard the term white lung before? Yeah, and if people are searching this online, it's all over the headlines. Yeah. About every headline, it's just, it's almost like a fear tactic of white long, white long, what is this? Well, if you, it's basically, it's not even a syndrome. It's just a phenomena of a chest x-ray. So if you look at a normal chest x-ray. We have an image here on the left side. That's a normal chest x-ray. And when there's air in the lungs, it appears dark on the x-ray. Now on the right there,

you have a bacterial pneumonia. And so when there's fluid in those air sacks, that just shows up as white. That's just routine of how it shows up. So any pneumonia, probably any issue that's sort of clogging up the lungs would cause white lung syndrome. It's not specific to this, but they're making it sound like it's specific. it's the white lung syndrome's coming. Right, right. It's like, no, it's just any pneumonia and what it looks like on X-Rum. This is where you see, this is where I really feel like you see propaganda at play, right?

Pneumnia isn't as scary a word. We've all accepted it. So let's call it something else like it's brand new, and it's really just the description you see in a check-sectry. Right. And for the media, they're getting clicks, so that's good for them. And again, there's a lot of reasons for that. But in this context, this is a pneumonia we're talking about here. That's what it appears to be in the reporting.

So let's now, we go into what the U.S. response is. So some GOP senators are talking about a travel ban. So you had in Taiwan, they're suggesting that elderly people, immune system compromised, people don't travel. But in the U.S., you're having this idea of a travel ban already starting. So this is the headline here. GOP senators urge Biden to restrict travel between U.S. and China amid child pneumonia outbreak. That hasn't really received much traction.

So we're probably not going to see that happening. But that's, you know, the fervor, this really starts to roll fast. and that's why we wanted to really just do a deeper dive segment on this. But now let's talk more about the science on this. So what may be happening, as we'd like to do here, just investigating a little more. And so attorneys representing ICANN also won a historic victory representing a plaintiff in a case trying to get documents from Pfizer. And that was...

The famous 75-year hold on the Pfizer data, yes. Right. And that was the public health medical professionals for transparency. And one of the documents that they produced was this one right here. And this was from Pfizer. It was supposed to be confidential, not anymore. This was the cumulative analysis of post-authorization adverse event reports received through February 2021. And so what this is is basically an internal document by Pfizer saying we're looking at every symptom, every issue that people had after they received the shot.

We've cataloged that, and that's what we have to look out for now. So we scoured veres, we scoured the yellow. yellow card system in the UK. And after the after people received our COVID shot, they came down with certain things. So these are possible issues that we're going to continue to monitor, this post-marketing. So in there, if you look into this document, it's a huge list of symptoms, obviously, but you look in there and there's a whole list of pneumonia's. So you have adenoviral pneumonia, you have influenza pneumonia, and there's Michael Plasmal pneumonia. So that's in there. And that's just kind of a data point we want to throw out there of Eiser knows about this.

And these are reports by people that said, look, within some timeline of the vaccine, I started having this issue. I got pneumonia. Is the vaccine causing it? They put it on a list, and we've talked about these lists, there's, you know, all of these different systems. Post-marketing surveillance, meaning after the vaccine has been through trials, it's not coming, this information isn't from the trials as much as it's after it's being released, and now the information that's coming in from people that are using it. Exactly, exactly. So that's just a little data point. But now let's talk about really the mechanism.

of what that, you know, we've constantly uncovering what this vaccine may be doing to the body because it was an experimental technology. We're still in its infancy, even though either three years later here. So we have some studies, and this relates directly to pneumonia infection. So one of the studies we've talked about here many times is how the Pfizer vaccine in this study, it reprograms the innate immune system and the adaptive immune system. This is what researchers found. This is the article right here. Before we get into it, let me make it clear to people why we keep calling for, you know, long-term safety trials, right, and efficacy trials, which didn't happen with this vaccine.

If we were sitting, you said, because you triggered it when you said, well, we're three years into this. Three years is about the time where if we had a proper trial going on, we would have really, really tangible, usable data so that we wouldn't have this list of maybes. Like we have people out there that are saying, oh, maybe, this might have been caused by it, might have been caused. if we were in a proper trial, what meant we still had a placebo group that had only received the placebo up into this point, we could start looking at microplasma pneumonia's and all these

different things and saying, well, did that happen in the placebo group? How much was the differentiation between those that basically received nothing, received this placebo, and those that got the drug, or in this case the vaccine? We can't do that because as soon as they gave an emergency use authorization, they went and vaccinated the entire placebo group, erasing any ability to ever, and let me make this clear, ever make the statement that there's a causal relationship. We've been through this so many times, but for people that are brand new, you cannot say it causes this issue if you didn't run a trial that showed a group that didn't get it against those that did. And once it's been approved, now you have an ethical, you can't

start a new trial and suddenly deny people access to a product that exists. So this is this game they're playing. And so now for the rest of you know, eternity, Pfizer and all these groups, say, well, we don't have a causal relationship. Well, it's anecdotal. Oh, it's a correlation, but you can't get the causation because you erased the study in the only way you can get the causation on purpose, of course, because now they can never be nailed to the wall in this. But this is where we're at. Just want to make that clear. So three years in, our question now is, since we will never be able to prove for sure that it's causing this pneumonia or this issue, the question would be, if it is, how would it be doing that? Exactly. So we have, and they'll say,

We have VERS, but VERS is a passive system, so it really can't be trusted. So we have to dig into the scientific literature and maybe put some puzzle pieces together. So this one study here, how this Pfizer vaccine has been shown to reprogram, that's the words they use. You can even see it in the title here, to reprogram both adaptive and innate immune responses. Which just sounds like, I mean, I'm sorry. Like, I'm just out on this now. That just sounds like such a bad idea. Let me just reprogram your innate immune system.

Like, that's what it's designed to do. Just let us doctors totally mess with the natural system in which your body works. But just putting that out. Yeah, it's a really significant study. And this is why we bring it up several times. And basically the shot changes the immune response. So when there's a challenge by a viral fungal or bacterial infection, the toll-like receptor response was lower after than the people that had the COVID shot.

So that toiletic receptors are basically the radar system. They're the first-line defense. If a pneumonia or a bacteria-viral pathogen gets in there, They're the system that raises that alarm. And so why is that a problem? You look into this study here, another quote from the study. It says surprisingly the production of the monocyte-derived cytokines. Now, cytokines are kind of the second line.

Those get in there and start really doing the work. They tended to be lower as well. It's basically like an air traffic controller and they go in and just unplug one of your radars. Right. And say, oh, everything is going to be fine. The vaccine's doing exactly what it should do. Really?

Because now we've got issues flying around that can really cause danger, and we have no way of tracking them. Yeah. The body is now not paying attention. Right. And so you have the tolic receptors down regulated in this study. You have the cytokines downregulated. Why is that a problem?

Well, we find out, according to this next study, that the lungs, the breathing area in your body has its own immune system. So that's a problem now. So now we get closer to pneumonia. TLR4 activation induces IL-1 beta release, but it says there's an independent pathway in the lung. And it says basically,

the contribution of IL-1 to resistance of streptocococcus pneumonia infection. And that's what we're talking about here. So a final study shows that they took mice and they have IL-1 beta and IL-1-alpha-negative. So they have mice that were modified not to have these IL-1 interleukin responses. So they can't mount a response at all because they genetically modified them. And they found that when they put intranasional pneumonia into these mice, they found this. This is what they write. They displayed a significantly lower.

survival rates and higher nasal pharyngeal and lung bacterial load and they concluded that IL-1 beta has a major role in resistance in primary pneumocococcal infection. So you're lowering this IL-1 beta, you're lowering these responses. Right. And this study is saying it has- I mean for people that are hearing this for the first time, you're doing the opposite of what you're being told a vaccine is doing. You're being told I'm boosting my immune system. I'm making my immune system stronger when all of the science, especially around this COVID vaccine, is showing us doing the exact

opposite. It is putting your immune system to sleep. It's unplugging your radars and leaving you vulnerable. And now surely you're going to have higher infection rates across people that receive this, higher death rates. It just goes without say. Right. And so we go back to the whole the story as a general. There's a lot of conflicting information here. So one of the points is we're nailing this Pfizer vaccine, this MRNA technology. But the problem is China has not been giving an MRNA technology vaccine out. So we're seeing this start in China and assuming that is the virus that's jumping and going into Europe and the U.S., which there's not even consensus on that.

So, but they had Sinovac. So Sinovac is not an MRNA-based vaccine. So more a standard. Yeah, standard technology of the past hundred years. But only in March of 2023, this is the New York Times headline, did China develop kind of an in-house, a homegrown MRNA vaccine. China approves an MRNA COVID vaccine, it's first. But another thing happened in December of last year.

China abandoned key parts of its zero COVID strategy after protests. I mean, that was a significant headline there because a lot of protests in China don't really get governmental response. So the fact that they were able to change that through protests, but now you have this, the hardest lockdown country in the world going into really its first winter here. So this is a lot of people are saying, look, these people have not had this community. immunity that they've been used to. They've been locked down, literally quarantined, camps into their homes. So this is one of the issues that they're saying,

this is kind of what is being pointed to, at least in China, without knowing all the information. Well, I mean, you have to imagine, if you lock a population down, if you keep someone living in a cell, which we saw those incredible images of people shouting from their apartments, I think it was in Shanghai and couldn't get out at all being locked down.

But they're not coming in contact with each other, right? They're not kissing, they're not hugging, they're not grabbing their children. They're not sharing in all these pathogens that are a part of our life. I mean, when I see people with masks, you do realize you're trying to avoid the way that we have lived on this planet. You are taking yourself out of this evolutionary journey that we're on with the bacteria and viruses on this planet. You want to be evolving with them. And if this thing does anything at all, which luckily for them, it probably doesn't. But the idea of it should go against everything you want to do, which is you're taking yourself out of the,

self out of the evolution. At some point, everything is going to keep evolving. If you stay behind, when that finally gets you, your body may see this as a deadly experience. Instead of saying, that's calm and cold for me, because I've been evolving along with everything that's around me.