The Highwire with Del Bigtree - NZ MAN FACING JAIL TIME FOR PEACEFUL PROTEST

Episode Date: May 8, 2023

When New Zealand Civil liberties activist, Billy Te Kahika, was arrested in 2021 at a peaceful freedom rally in Auckland, he had no idea the legal battle he would face. Currently out on appeal, hear a...bout the shocking 4 month jail sentence he’s facing for simply organizing a peaceful protest.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This next story comes out of New Zealand. Imagine if you are a freedom fighter just like Del Bigree, who stood on the capital steps of Mississippi fighting this issue, you know, year after year with all of these, you know, mothers and, you know, a few fathers. Trying to get back your own rights and maintain that sort of connection you have to your own body autonomy. That's all that was happening here. But there's been documentaries about him. They're attacking him. And now he's facing jail time.
Starting point is 00:00:29 I'm talking about Billy Tecahika, and this is just a short piece of a documentary, gives you a sense of how the media wants to portray this story. You may or may not have witnessed the phenomenon that is Billy Takahika Jr., leader of the New Zealand public party, co-leader with Jamie Lee Ross of Advance New Zealand. It's time for me to shut up and handle my coverage to Billy. preaching to his followers.
Starting point is 00:01:18 And I woke up thing did not smell. To support his care. political plank that the government does not tell the truth. He does. We know we are thinking logically. What we said early on that the media claimed of a conspiracy theorist is now mainstream. What he says stems directly from Kewanon, the unfounded conspiracy theory that began in the US in 2017 and is now sweeping the globe, at its core that there's an elite cabal which covertly controls the world.
Starting point is 00:01:58 The disease was never lethal as a was made out to be. And it's morphing to include anti-5G, anti-lockdown thinking that coronavirus is a hoax or no worse than the seasonal flu. Billy Tikahika and his falsifications might not matter if nobody was listening, but they are. We are your party at VARTS New Zealand, your voice, your power, your party. His rallies are full, but it's when you analyse his social media that you really get a sense of his influence. In the past two months, their Facebook party page has had nearly 800,000 interactions. And this is the really telling part, nearly 4 million video views,
Starting point is 00:02:50 way higher than either Labor or National. What's in it for him? Fame? I think he that he's very dangerous on a whole lot of levels. Stop this 1080 for a start. This 5G, it's got to go. It's killing all our people, man. We've got to question the COVID and the virus.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Freedom! He's speaking what we've been thinking right along. He's an honest man. What he's saying is sounds more true. He's the only one speaking the truth. Is the only one confronting the government? Is the only one calling all these bs-up? You know, when I think about these draconian measures that, you know, Billy was fighting against
Starting point is 00:03:33 I, too, was fighting, standing in front of crowds just like that. You think about what's happened with this conversation. All of the authoritarian, so many of them have lost their jobs since New Zealand, just into Arden, lost her job. She had to step down under just massive hatred from the country for her authoritarian measures and other things. You look at Boris Johnson, who was doing the same thing in the UK. He's no longer there. Andrew Cuomo was taken out. He decided instead of being attacked for killing people in nursing homes, he'd rather be accused of sexual misconduct. And of course, Lori Lightfoot just lost her standing there in Chicago. But although all that change is happening, there's these repercussions
Starting point is 00:04:10 of things that happen to normal people. And in this case, you know, retrospectively and just, you know, now the court case came up for Billy Tekeh. This is the headline that we're now seeing in New Zealand. Conspiracy theory is Billy Tekehika jailed for COVID-19 protest. He's on appeal at the moment. Judge Peter Winters sentenced to Cahika to four months in imprisonment. This is the moment he was arrested. We have the event he was at, and this is just some of the personal footage that was provided
Starting point is 00:04:41 to show this horrific and stupid moment. moment in New Zealand. So I'm under arrest right now. I'm happy to go ahead. No, no, no. That's right. Stay calm. Stay cool, everybody.
Starting point is 00:04:53 We don't want to see violence. We know. We knew this was coming. this was coming. And, but I hope that he's not violence going on. Please email people back there and tell them not to be bombed. I've got to do the right thing. I mean, amazing. It just shows the character that in the moment of being arrested, the only thing he's concerned with is making sure that those around him do not, you know, fall into violence, that that's exactly what they want, thinking about the protection of the police officers. I mean, truly a beautiful and noble spirit. You can
Starting point is 00:05:46 see it there is my honor and pleasure to be joined right now by Billy Tekehika. Thank you so much for taking the time. This is a horrific outcome at the moment. So, you know, what went down to this court case? Was the judge just sort of totally against you from the beginning? Or, you know, what are we talking about here? Yes, Kyota, greetings, Del. It's a great honor and privilege to be here today.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yes, it's quite funny. You know, one of the things that we just heard in the mainstream media, slander attack on me is that they were saying that I was spreading falsifications including that the COVID-19 SARS to you as the equivalent of a flu virus well you'd be pleased to know that three days ago in mainstream media New Zealand came out that a leading university epidemiologist was covered in a very very significant article was saying well guess what everybody it's time to move on COVID-19 is the same as as the seasonal flu
Starting point is 00:06:44 for most New Zealanders, which is what we were saying back in 2020. It was very, very clear to you, Dell. You know, you and I and Dr. Rasha Bhuta spoke about this 18 months ago. Yeah. And so the IFR was very, very clear the infection fatality rate that we were dealing with an influenza equivalent mortality rate here. And it's out now. The narrative is crumbling.
Starting point is 00:07:09 But unfortunately, the judge that we had during this, this trial which involved three district court appearances with myself turning out to face these charges for breaching the COVID-19 public health response act 2020 it became very very clear that the judge that we were dealing with was a true believer of the government narrative of the of the narrative that had no science behind it had no justification behind it and had no logical sense behind it. He was a complete believer. You know, I don't like to disrespect any, anyone in the judiciary. I'm a former member of the army and police. And, but he would, he would not entertain any of the improved and up-to-date current information, which tells us that lockdowns
Starting point is 00:08:00 offered no benefit, but only harm and destruction, which is the whole reason why I protested that day. I became the counselor for New Zealand now, and I heard all the stories of suicide, of people dying alone of economic business destruction, but social harm, social uneas and disease was just through the roof like it has been in other countries. And I had to stand up against it, not thinking I would be arrested, but not only thinking I wouldn't be arrested, but found guilty of the charges. Now, in New Zealand, the right to protest is guaranteed under the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Because I was just going to ask you that. What is the actual charge? Like, what are you being charged with? So the charges I'm facing, what I have faced, include attending the protest and organizing the protest. Now, the protest itself was very, very tiny, less than 100 people. It was outdoors. It was a very nice day.
Starting point is 00:09:00 It was peaceful as anything because all of my events have been peaceful. All of them have been beautiful events. I work very, very closely with the police to make sure that protest is police and public. safe, which I did at every event I did, and yet that meant nothing on the day. They had made up their mind they were going to get me that day. It was day one of a national lockdown because of one case of COVID, one case of the flu equivalent. But they'd made them wind up. They were going to get me that day.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And they did. And normally with breaches like this, you'd be sort of protest and processed and released after two or three hours. but they kept me in New Zealand's largest prison, Remand Centre for about, for a day and a half and the police did not want to let me go. They considered me a public enemy. Wow. And yet you're peaceful, you're just there,
Starting point is 00:09:51 speaking your mind, stating science. And so you're saying the judge wouldn't even allow the science really into the courtroom to discuss what we now know retrospectively, almost like you're being tried based on what was understood in the dark ages versus what we now know that has been, you know, the light is shining. down on it. I mean, this makes me nervous too. And for those, you know, obviously we're an international show. Here in America, my concern is we feel like, oh, this could never happen here, but we are so
Starting point is 00:10:18 close. I mean, our neighbors in Canada, we watch bank accounts being shut down by people that were supporting truckers. I mean, oh, you know, it's not lost on anybody. What is your message right now to other freedom fighters around the world? I mean, obviously, it is so clear you're making an example of you. You feel like that is what this is about to deter anyone from ever thinking they can stand in front of an audience and defy mandates by the government? Yeah, correct. So it creates a chilling effect across the citizenry that may be interested in protest activism. And what it does now, it's communicating to New Zealanders that if you say something that the government doesn't like, that you may be victimized in this way, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:05 Adele a few months earlier in New Zealand, during another lockdown, Black Lives Matter had two gigantic protests, each with 10,000 people at it, no masks, no social distancing, breaching a level two lockdown and there was not one arrest. Now that proves to me that we've got an ideological warfare going on here and unfortunately the government which controls the judiciary and they do control the judiciary in my view will make war against you if you come out and you're saying things that they don't like but if you if you sort of are working within the safe parameters of the work cancel culture of the left then you're going to be perfectly fine to breach all day long the message to to other freedom fighters around
Starting point is 00:11:51 the world is is steal up you know take a robust approach to this but be careful because you know what i'm dealing with now is i found guilty for breaching this act the new zealand bit of right Act 1990 guarantees my right to protest peacefully protest in any situation but that was that was overridden which is unbelievable and and given that I have no previous convictions I have a long service record to country and community I'm a pastor I'm a family man of there many many many many many big campaigns about helping New Zealand be a better place to live in the judge you know read all this out and I had a significant number of excellent character references that attested to my good character.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And then he sentenced me to five months prison, which if you had been there, Dale, the feeling that went through the courtroom was one of shock, absolute shock and horror. Even with the police staff, they were shocked. They were absolutely shocked. Wow. They were absolutely shocked. How do we help out? I mean, you know, we got this audience of millions of people watching right now.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Is there any way we can put some pressure or help? I know you're sort of bringing this up on appeal. Is there something we can do to get involved because this is just a crime against humanity? And if we allow it to happen to you, then you're just the beginning and it starts happening all over the world. So what can we do to help you out?
Starting point is 00:13:19 Thank you, Dale. That's really important. Well, we're doing a couple of things right now. Number one is that we have a petition on change.org. It's called Justice for, there we go, for Balitika and Vinny Eastwood. Now, Vinny Eastwood is my dear friend who was arrested with me and we launched this just a few days ago so the petition is growing so we'd like people to to recognize that that what's happening with me just makes no sense
Starting point is 00:13:47 Dell in the last two weeks we've had killers we've had people charge of manslaughter gang members involved in drive-by shootings child molesters receive home detention that the community detention option was available to the judge. I mean, really, I should have been found innocent charges dismissed, but he didn't. And so he found me guilty. He sentenced me to prison, but he could have easily just convicted me and given me a fine. Let me go and we move on more life. But he hasn't.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And my key concern is that we've got this appeal underway now. My key concern is if they get me in prison, that they're going to be. that they may try and have their way with me inside. Now, I just about vomit when I say that, not out of fear, but to say that that's possible in New Zealand, we used to be the flagship country for freedom and critical thinking people and good people in a good country. But that's been absolutely eradicated and destroyed in the last six years,
Starting point is 00:14:52 and I was listening to what you were saying earlier in your interview with Stephen. I mean, everything that's happening, and the United States around conflicts of interest with drug companies is here. You know, we've got the same problem. We've got government doctors and scientists that are putting out this flyers about vaccine hesitancy and overcoming it, saying it's an independent paper. And on the bottom of it, it's got probably sponsored by Pfizer and GSK, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:21 and but it's rolled out into the enforcement area as well. So in terms of helping me, if people could go to that website. Well, let's do this, folks. Get out your pens, get out your papers. This is what we do here at the high wire. I don't want you to just sit around. Look how easy it is. Why don't we just fill out this petition?
Starting point is 00:15:39 Right now, there's 5,000 signatures. We can do way better than that. You're looking for 7,500. I want to blow this out of the park. Let's go ahead and just hit it up here so that he can walk in and say, look at the world is watching you. And that's all that a petition like this does is if you walk in the courtroom and say, I just want you to know the world is watching how you act here and you will go down in history about how you decide this case.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Let's make sure they're being watched. And as you're going through all this, my understanding you're also working on a documentary. Yes, Del. And boy, I tell you, it's funny how God works because you've been on my list because I've got, I've got Roshid on board and Russia's a good friend of ours. Because of Russia, Bittar, great, great doctor, done a lot of great work out there. Yeah. He's great. but we've got a documentary it's called the river of lies the new zealand scandemic
Starting point is 00:16:28 and investigate a documentary and it's it's a boomer it's um we've we've filmed 1800 minutes of of interviews data scientists interviews um you know including you know dr mike geton and other great medical leaders and yeah sovereign medical activists but we've got the stories of people that have been harmed for no good reason um one of my deyton one of my friends his wife died after receiving the second jab and they did it because they needed their jobs as either go and get the jab or lose your job and lose your home and that's the reason why many people got the jab but this documentary it's it's an absolute bomber you know is available down did i miss me or you is can we watch it now or are you still finishing it up we're still
Starting point is 00:17:18 editing that so um because i want to i want to interview you i want to interview you in the next week or two to get you in. You would be the very, very last guy we're going to interview, but it's been edited right now. We had planned originally. It was going to be a one-episode documentary, but we had a production meeting a couple of weeks ago and it was decided that, no, we've got too much good data here. It'd be a shame to waste any of it, so we're going to have a three-episode documentary. But the thing is I want to impress upon your audience, Del, is that what's happened in New Zealand is a representation of what the globe has got, gone through what we've all gone through. And so the data that we've got in it is something
Starting point is 00:17:59 that anybody around the world can use to educate people that are perhaps sitting on the fence, not sure or not even on the fence and on the other side of it. Because what the way that I crafted the documentary is that we didn't want to go down any rabbit holes. We don't want to be, you know, called conspiracy nut jobs. We just wanted the facts, Jack. And we wanted to be calm, call and collected in the way that it's presented so we didn't want to you know i mean i get called a kuanon guy i've never had anything to do with kuanon i get called a trump guy i've never had anything to do with with uh president trump either but um we just want to be very very calm and very centered in the way that we present the evidence and the facts in such good layout that anybody would be able
Starting point is 00:18:43 to go well to a family member that they lost you know because they spoke up say look um mom dad sister brother-cous, just look at this, just look at this and then make up your mind. Because the world has to make a choice too, Del, is that as the narrative is crumbling and breaking down, you know, all those that slam G-gue as a conspiracy nut job, slam me as a conspiracy nut job, you know, now have to come to terms that they're wrong, they're completely wrong. And the way that we that we get them over that line completely is to very warmly but factually, but factually, and firmly present the data that cannot be fact-checked and dealt away with. Well, what I really look forward to in your documentary, and though, you know, there's many
Starting point is 00:19:29 out there now, but what is so interesting about New Zealand is you truly are an experiment. We've talked a lot about Australia, but when you look at islands, your lockdown was so complete that you're really one of the only experiments that got to vaccinate everybody, but before the virus was actually there. So if the vaccine was ever going to work, it should have worked in New Zealand and the fact that it hasn't. And you had the same. infections rates they skyrocketed through the roof you've had massive death that the vaccine didn't seem to help from and you've same stupidity in hospitals you know putting people on ventilators I mean all the same things but it was done in a microcosm in a much more contained space so it gets
Starting point is 00:20:06 outside of the argument well we were already under attack by the virus we didn't know what's happening New Zealand sat back and was able to hide itself and really make a calculated effort based on what the WHO and the CDC and the FDA said if we could only do this it would have worked great It was a disaster for New Zealand. It's been a disaster for your economy. It's been a disaster for your society. Now they're going to try and scare anyone from telling the truth the next time they pull this by, you know, throwing you in jail. We're going to do everything we can to support you.
Starting point is 00:20:35 So if you want to get involved with the documentary, here's that information again. River of Lies in New Zealand's scandemic, riveroflise.com. And please, let's sign that change.org petition and support Billy here. he is standing up right now as a warrior for the world, a warrior for all of us. We cannot allow this type of insanity to stand. Billy, thank you for taking the time. Thank you for your courage. And honestly, thank you for your peace and your candor and that truly beautiful, loving vibe you're putting out.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Love is the only way we win this. And you really are representing that such a beautiful way. Thank you. I look forward to speaking you for the documentary and just want to wish everybody to be in God's care. Thanks, brother. Appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you.

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