The Highwire with Del Bigtree - PIERRE KORY ON EXCESS MORTALITY, SPIKE PROTEIN SHEDDING, AND HIS NEW FILM

Episode Date: December 21, 2023

President of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, Pierre Kory, MD, discusses his recent groundbreaking op-ed in The Hill reporting on the record excess mortality we are experiencing since the rollout of the COVID-19 vaccine. Also, Pierre breaks down the science on spike protein shedding. Finally, Dr. Kory premieres a New short film, ‘The War on Ivermectin.’Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

Many of you know I grew up in Boulder, Colorado, which is like Planet of the Hippies, my parents were hippies. And there was this one of these concepts that I grew up with that I think they've disproven, but there's lots of books written about like the 100th monkey. This idea that on one island, you know, one monkey started doing something with the food that they were eating. And then when a hundred of them finally were doing the same thing, then on another island of monkeys, it started there too, that somehow there's this collective unconscious where everyone wants enough. enough people get it or enough monkeys get it, then finally it moves on and starts to spread around the world. Well, that may have actually happened this week, the human version of it, with an article that came out in the Hill. Now, we've been talking about this issue since the beginning of COVID, and we've been right about it, but we may have finally gotten to the 100th monkey. What I'm talking about? Well, this is what it looks like in the news.

The Hill writes the following, this is bigger than COVID. why are so many Americans dying early? It goes on to say life insurers have been consistently sounding the alarm over these unexpected or excess deaths, which claimed 158,000 more Americans in the first nine months of 2023 than in the same period, 2019. That exceeds America's combined losses from every war since Vietnam. Mortality, up 26 percent, Dr. Mark, among 35 to 44-year-olds, up 19 percent among 25 to 34-year-olds. What in the world is going on? And I want to add to that before I answer it.

By the way, great report by Kevin Cork. Both of us read our heads off tonight. We're doing much worse than Europe. We lost during the heart of the pandemic about a million more excess deaths per year than Europe did. And now after the pandemic, same thing. Why are they doing better than us? We have a very high standard of living here.

It's also cutting trace across all socioeconomic groups. It's not just poor people. It's not just socioeconomically disadvantaged. It's everyone. Now, I had a good conversation with you before it came on. I mentioned obesity. You made a great point. You said, look, that rate hasn't gone up.

So I would say part of it, at least, is the long-term effects of obesity. It leads to high blood pressure. And during the shutdowns and the lockdowns, people didn't get medical care, and they got anxious, and they got depressed. There was more suicide. All of that is continuing. All of the anxiety is continuing. Stress-related diseases are up.

Drug abuse is still up. Alcohol is up. COVID itself may have long-term effects. That could be it in terms of on the heart, lungs, kidney. But the vaccine, which definitely saved lives, nobody's studying what the long-term effects of the vaccine are here. That's also an elephant in the room. All of that has to be looked at. You can't just say, well, it's smoking. Well, it's this, it's that. We need a careful examination of why this is happening. Terrible trend. I don't know if you were sitting there with COVID, but Mark Siegel is one of those people that was pushing. the vaccine hard for him to finally say, you know, talk about the elephant in the room, which has been there the whole time. But this article is not written by the hill and say the article by the hill. It's written by an author. And that author joins me now. Dr. Pierre Corey. Hey, Doe. Always awesome to have you. This is a firestorm, man. I mean, it's really, you know, lots of articles have been out there, but this one really is taking off. It's hitting the news. You're on Lori Ingram tonight, correct? Talking about this.

Yeah, yeah. Why? Why do you think this is finally, is it just because you're the greatest writer that's finally talked about this? Yeah, I'd like to go with that one, Del. But no, I got to tell you, me and the team in the FLCC, we've been working hard getting this message out. You know, we are educators, we're researchers. And I can't think of a bigger topic for our country, is that we're seeing legions of young people die, and no one's asking the questions. The government is not being transparent with the data. We don't know of any organized focus to really study the cause. heard Siegel, who you mentioned, is a mainstream guy. Now seems to be walking it back. He says, well, maybe this could be long-term effects of the vaccine. So the idea that a mainstream, you know, pundit on television is now saying the thing that a lot of us have been saying for a long time. I think that's really a big change. I think Mark Siegel may actually be the 100th monkey.

It's the perfect description for a guy that pushes. But look, up until this moment right now, saying that you want to investigate the safety of a vaccine and just immediately just planted you're an anti-vaxxer. Like there's no need to do any science here whatsoever. I think there's clearly a shift going on now where people are moving. In this article, for those that haven't read it, what do you think were the turning point moments?

We've talked about the insurance, but what has stood out to you is you just can't look the other way? What is it in your article that's got? Because there's been lots of data. We've been seeing access more. What is it that is just you can't look away now? I think it's the scale. So 158,000 Americans in the first nine months of 2023, more than all the-

158,000. I think Vietnam was what, 68, about 58,000. So if you total up all the losses and all the wars since Vietnam, it doesn't come close to them. That's in one year, mostly young people, insured. And I think people, it's not just old people dying. In fact, the old people in 2023 are dying at less rates, because a lot of them died off in early COVID.

And so you can't ignore this. And, you know, these sudden rises, you can't blame it on drug addiction and obesity. Those things have always been happening. They didn't just suddenly, you know, shoot up in the third quarter of 2021, where we see the biggest signal. And, you know, we all know what it is. That we, you know, theirs has been exploding since the beginning. We have seen legions of deaths in newspapers of young people, ballplayers, athletes. And I think now you can't escape the data.

And I think, you know, this is the third. third op-ed we've published in a major mainstream media outlet. We did one in USA Today about six weeks ago, then Newsweek, and now the Hill. And I think somehow, or finally, there's an appetite. The censoring is actually getting pulled back. People are willing to look at this. I don't know why now, because like you said, we've been doing this for a long time, but something's changing.

And now we're actually able to have this debate in an open society. I think it's credible. Well, it's great to see Mark Siegel open up to it. Maybe one of the reasons he's so late to, you know, know the party here is we actually went to his like to his YouTube channel and to his social media to just see what was about and this is this is what we found look at this we've been blocked he won't watch the high wire and nothing that we're doing is being seen by this man apparently so we're in our effort to try and like

celebrate this guy like we can't even get to him so it's shocking that he's you know finally waking up when we've been talking about this from the very beginning I want to get into a subject that you're doing a lot of speaking about right now. And it's probably the biggest question we get from our audience. I think a huge part of our audience didn't take this vaccine, but are concerned that, you know, that there's this idea of shedding. We've seen these issues on, you know, menstrual changes, you know, menstruation changes and things like that. But you're really starting to sort of, the same way you wrote this article, there's this sort of critical mass that's now happening around shedding. What are the, what are the main

things that you think, you know, when you look at this? Well, first of all, you know, I started to see it in my practice with my partner. We saw it in our patient population, whether they were long vaks or long COVID. And anyone can be shed upon. Just because you're vaccinating doesn't mean you can't be susceptible to shedding. Okay. But really the big change for me was, and I started to look into this topic, the FDA literally has a document from 2015, which gives guidance on shedding studies around gene therapy products. And we know these vaccines are gene therapy products. The FDA is aware of it. They recommend strongly, animal and human shedding, so they know it's real.

And then I discovered that there are other gene therapy products where in the insert, it warns of shedding for up to seven days. That's just that product. And then as I started to look more and more, we have some pretty concerning studies suggesting that shedding is happening on a large scale. Now, I think there's a difference between shedding of spike protein that's symptomatic in someone or asymptomatic. Because I would say it's a minority of people who are capable of developing adverse

vaccine effects from shedding. It's a minority. I think they're physiologically sensitive folks. So they just didn't get the vaccine, but they're around somebody that doesn't, now they start having real issues because of it. You mentioned number one is mental irregularities. What I've seen in my experience is women are much more susceptible than men, and the most common is menstrual irregularities. But there are others. I mean, I have patients who get vertigo. And it's interesting, I wrote this whole series on shedding, and many patients in my practice read my writings. And so in some of my patient visits, they've been asked. asking me questions about shedding.

And I saw someone this week, Dell, literally spontaneously tells me in our visit, he says, you know, Dr. Corey, I found that I can't go to grocery stores. Every time I go to Trader Joe's, within minutes, I feel ill, I have to get out of there. He says, I can't go into those stores. It happened when I was at the farmer's market last week

where it was really crowded. And I said to him, I said, well, you know what that is, right? And he says, no. And I said, it's shedding. And I had to explain to him what it is. I sent him my links to my writings. And he was shocked. but it made perfect sense.

He'd already figured out that there were certain places he couldn't go. Now, he happens to be sensitive. It's not everybody. Right. What is the mechanism? I mean, what does the term shedding mean? How does someone, is it the same as being sick and having a virus for a term? No.

So shedding, I'm going to use the FDA's definition. It's literally the excretion of viral or bacterial gene therapy products. So what is the product of this particular COVID-MRNA vaccine? It's the spike protein. It's not the natural spike protein, which is something I'm going to get into a little later in the show with Jeffrey. It's this... It's the manufactured version. And so those can be shed, and they know that, and that's why they want people to do shedding studies.

The other thing is, the other thing that you can classify these vaccine as, is they are nanoparticle technology. It's kind of a wider category, which is the MRNA is within lipid nanoparticles. And those fatty sacks, tiny little fatty sacks, they're well known to cross almost all physiologic barriers. They can cross the skin, the eyes, exhaled in the breath, they can be inhaled. And so when you have MRNA or even spike protein, which then gets enclosed into these lipid nanoparticles, they literally can be shed and excreted and absorbed because there's a lot of gene therapy products that are in development where they're using creams, skin,

nebulizers to deliver it. It's not just a needle in the arm. So nanoparticles are well absorbed by the body. And there's a lot of products on the market right now using nanoparticle technology. And the last thing I want to say about that is in every review paper I did on nanoparticle technology, there's always a few sentences. More studies need to be done to ensure the safety of these products. And to me, this is just another example of humans adopting and proliferating a technology

without really understanding the short or long-term risks. And we've seen that over and over with the vaccines. And this is just the latest chapter, right? You have DNA contamination in all the vials. This week we had a paper about frame shifting where the MRNA is misread and it's making all these novel proteins. And now we have shedding. And my last worry is, although I'm not symptomatic by being around vaccinated, again, it's a minority. I worry that those DNA plasmids can be taken up into natural exosomes, which is the natural equivalent of a lipid nanoparticle.

And those can be trans. So what's happening with the DNA that's in all these vials that's going into people? Could it get to me and is it going to affect me? And those are all questions. And there's lots of studies. The one I thought was interesting was, you know, where they had kids of adults that had been vaccinated. And then those kids ended up having, you know, antibody titers not to COVID and not to just a spike protein, but very specifically they had developed an immunity to the man-made spike protein, which says somehow they came in contact and they weren't vaccinated. No. And so you have to wonder why are they making antibodies to spike when they weren't vaccinated and they didn't get COVID. So they're finding it in households of adults who vaccinated.

And in that paper, the authors, again, there's so much censorship and propaganda, get stuff published. You kind of have to write things that may not be true. And they said, they hypothesized that it's antibodies being shed from the adult. So if that's true, I would be immune to every disease that my parents are. It would almost be a brand new branch of science. Exactly. We're going to go ahead.

And this is where, like I was thinking of the Occam's Razor thing. It couldn't possibly be the most obvious answer. we're going to develop a whole new, you know, smoking gun that has to go through 50 different doors to get to where it is instead of just explain the obvious. But there's a worse study than that. It's a study that got a lot of attention when it came out. It's still on a preprint. But it was one of the first big studies which correlated vaccine rollouts with excess mortality in countries across Europe and U.S. North America. And I didn't pick it up at the time. It was only when I was doing research on shedding. But in that study, they actually found that in areas where adults were getting vaccinated, they saw a spike in excess mortality amongst children who weren't yet being vaccinated.

Remember when we were only doing adults? During that period, as the adults started to get vaccinated, you saw this rise in excess mortality of children, which lasted for about 18 weeks, and then it went back to baseline. No other explanation where a suddenly unvaccinated kid. So there is shedding. There's also secondary shedding, which I don't want to get to. too crazy, but it's where you can be exposed to someone who's shedding a lot of spike protein, and then you can actually bring it home and have someone else. I have a number of patients

where that's happened. So here's my question, because in some of our investigations, actually, we're doing, you know, we're looking at chem trails and some of these delivery systems, and one of our questions is, are we working on some sort of technology to drop vaccines from the sky? We've seen some articles. There's clearly things out there, but something we're investigating. We haven't really done a show on this completely yet, but there's a whole branch of vaccine science now looking at these hyper infectious vaccines where the entire goal, they state it to make a vaccine that even the people that refuse to take it will get it because they will be infected by the person that got the vaccine. And you see this in the works. My question is, is that what this was? Is this?

I mean, they're all acting like, oh, what, it sheds? Is there the possibility that that's the exact purpose? Because the polio vaccine, by the way, that we use, you know, over in Africa, that's one of the things. They know they're not going to get to everybody. The idea is that it should shed. It's causing a major problem now. We're having polio starting to spread across the world. But have you thought about that?

Is it possible that is baked into this? There's no limits where you can go, which with how much they knew of what they were really unleashing. And how much they willfully didn't invest. right? Because the shedding studies, although the FDA document falls short of requiring it, it's essentially recommended. There's a huge guidance around it. They did not do them. In fact, I shouldn't say that. There is evidence through FOIA that they found some mention that Pfizer did a shedding study in rats. Don't know the results, and I can't actually find the original document anymore. It's off the internet. But this wasn't studied. And they know it's a possibility.

So what you're saying is true. I mean, these are gene therapies. We know that I'm our body can make in many patients that can make a lot of spike they can make it for a long time the spike stays there a long time so they have a capacity being shed and the study you brought up where children are now showing antibodies and they weren't vaccinated wouldn't that be an example of a kind of a self-spreading vaccine it i think it's totally a possibility when i look at this you know you're a doctor i've lost a lot of hope in doctors because there's very few that seem to be critically thinking but this god complex thing and when i look at this vaccine program And when we look at this idea, we know it can shed.

Clearly, they want to make vaccines that do that in the future. So none of us can escape. This is the ultimate God complex now, because now what we're saying is we are going to release our own man-made virus on the world. And there's nothing you're going to do about it because our virus is better than the national virus or than God's virus or some evolutionary process we've been in. I mean, this is madness at a level that, I mean,

so now I've got to figure out how to not only protect myself, my help, I'm getting a cold, whatever that's out there nationally. I got these bozos releasing things that they think are somehow going to protect me that have the same side effects were worse and aren't studying it, aren't even looking at it. It's infuriating. It's absolutely infuriating. And the thing is, you know, we already know that informed consent was went out the window in COVID, right? The concept of bodily autonomy and free choice.

This would be an example of like just a global violation. They're releasing medical interventions where they, can't contain it in the one person who elected to receive it. Now, your choice now affects me. I have to now be exposed to the medical intervention that you chose yourself. And I mean, when will they stop? There's no, it seems like there's no safe cards. I mean, honestly, I think when we're all dead. It's like, it's like, it's like a, imagine a recall in a car, but now, oops, our bad, we've got a defect in this vaccine that now you're all breathing it and we don't know how to stop it. I mean, that should be the next, you know, movie on HBO is the

virus that, you know, you did do us. All right. Yeah. So, so obviously what puts you in the middle of this is the war on Ivermectin and your work with Ivermectin, you and Mickey Willis, you know, got together to make a mini doc. It's very powerful. We're launching it at the end of the show today. I just want to show people just a little clip and we're going to talk about it. All right. So take a look at this. What initially led this was an FDA Twitter account that used the term y'all to express denigration of Ivermectin as a horse drug. The truth is that the dose that's used for horses by body weight is the same dose that's recommended for humans, but it's formulated and manufactured to a quality standard that's very different. The CDC put out a national advisory on this,

warning the whole country against taking this drug Ivermectin formulated for horses and cows and sheep. With that memo fired to every doctor, then suddenly me and all my early treatment colleagues around the country, we were faced with problems like we'd never had before. So it was the first time in history that we ever saw a doctor who could be prosecuted for using a generic, safe, and effective drug for the application that doctor thought was appropriate. If Ivermectin were an effective treatment, the vaccines never would have gotten emergency use authorization in the U.S. The key paradox is if you look at the mortality rate in the United States,

States, one of the most highly funded medical care systems in the world. And what we find is the mortality in the United States is among the worst in the world. People need to understand that academics have been threatened with losing their position and threatened with getting no further research grants if they speak out against the narrative. It literally is, in my mind, the single greatest public health achievement in our history of infection control in the world. This is an awesome video. We're going to play the whole thing at the very end of the show.

People can check it out. Then they can go check out the work you're doing on your website. You know, it's amazing, you know, hearing Dr. Robert Malone say, you know, we had the highest death rate really in the world, one of the highest in the world. And we've been saying that on this show from the very beginning. In fact, I think we were the first ones to point out, hey, wait a minute, the emergency use authorization here, they cannot push this vaccine out at warps. speed if this drug works. It seemed like, you know, with everything, with any case you have against

something, what was the motivation? And now you have Dr. Mark Siegel admitting the same stat. Worst death rates, you know, from COVID in what's supposed to be the greatest hospital medical system in the world, highest paid doctors, free to do whatever you want. And now we're having the highest excess mortality rates. And in the middle of this, I'm thinking Tony Fauci is going on a stand, I believe next week in front of the Congress to answer to Wuhan and covering that up and all of these things that are going on. And I mean, this guy is like Time Magazine's hero of the year. Should this be, is this one of the greatest medical catastrophes of all times as far as leadership? I don't think you could ever come close to what they did here.

And Fauci is at the center of it all. I mean, as an expert on a number of facets of COVID, I've seen that man go on now. national television, which is really global television, and utter brazen lives, completely divorced from science. And there's a heavy weight he should be carrying, and he's responsible for, I think, millions of needless deaths. There's not even a question about that. I think the fact that your Hill article is hitting so hard this week going into next week and all this is coming around, it just really feels like, I mean, there's a critical mass taking place here, as there should be. I mean, as there should be, an investigation to what the hell happened here? Why did we take a perfectly safe drug?

I mean, I always say, even if it didn't work, what difference does it make? If it just had a placebo effect, it's as close to a placebo in a drug as you can get. It's so safe. Why would you make it so that no one can get near it? I mean, clearly, it's a crime. Do you think, do you believe we'll ever see people, like, actually go to jail over this sort of situation? You know, actually, if you had asked me that two days ago, I would have said no, but I don't know if you're aware there's an article right now. There's a Minister of Health in Italy who is actually apparently up on murder charges because they have evidence on emails that he was aware of numerous deaths that are occurring around vaccines and told them to keep up the narrative of safe and effective.

And we know that health ministers around the world did that to support the vaccine campaign. And so that is one, if true, that seems to be that maybe other things are changed. I think there is a reckoning coming out. And we've been kind of reassuring ourselves for a couple years that the truth will come out eventually. And we keep pushing out that truth and I think we're making some headway lately. And when the truth does come out, crimes are going to be revealed and I do think people will have to be held accountable.

I mean, what's amazing about this and to me, you know, we're not a political show, but Tony Fauci gets carried between, from Donald Trump, gives give it all the power, you know. I don't mean, I don't care where anyone's at politically. both of these presidents use the same fool to destroy our lives. And so when you start thinking like what difference could be made here, if you're going to let a bureaucrat like this, literally shut down my business, make it illegal for me to breathe the air, decide what drugs my doctor is allowed to use, and then go with ones that are not properly tested remdesivir, you know, manipulate studies around that.

I mean, this whole thing is so disgusting. I've been saying, you know, more and more, when we look back at this period of time, And history tries to write what happened here. People are going to be scratching their heads. Like, how did this many people in authority think they could get away with this? How many doctors that just went along with it? You know, it really outs a severe, I mean, it's as bad. Not to bring them like the Holocaust part of it.

I'm not making that comparison that is bad that way. But when you look at the ability for people to be brainwashed, intelligent people, doctors. Yes. I was just talking to a doctor the other day, a really good friend. In fact, James Newinschwander, and I said they're idiots. And they'll say, Del, they're not idiots. Doctors are smart people. I said, well, they don't have any intuition.

And as far as I'm concerned, you die in nature if you don't have some instinct. They've got no instincts whatsoever. So to me, they're stupid. In my more generous moments, Del, I think of them as too trusting, especially in the institutions of science, like the journals and the agencies. They really do think that's the best science and the most knowledgeable experts speaking. and they don't understand that those institutions are captured. And then so in my most generous moment is I look upon our physicians of our country as really victims,

victims of unrelenting propaganda, shot at them from journals, from the mouths of agency leaders, from the media 24-7. And I do find that many of them were defenseless against it. They tended to believe what they were told, and then they passed it on in positions of authority with their white coats. And so I think some knowingly did this. I think some of the leaders who executed this pandemic response, I think, like you mentioned, they knew what they were doing. They knew there was other objectives and it wasn't the consideration of the patient.

But I think a lot of doctors just, I think they were too trusting and not questioning enough. I agree. Well, look, let me plug this thing right here. The war on Ivermectin, hey, everybody, you know, this is one of those incredible stories about a little tiny pill. But really it's, I think you have uncovered the hard. and the problem of what's happened in modern science and in modern medicine. And anyone that has a question about anything, today we're going to be talking about stat, same story.

You know, like across the board, what is the safety science? What is the effect, you know, what is the efficacy studies? How is it, we have a system where the company making the money is the one that does all of its own safety testing. And then when that product suddenly becomes generic or they can't make any money off of it, then they trash it. They'll tell you, oh, that doesn't work. We've got a better product now.

And now no one's allowed to tie. I mean, there's just so much of this going on. And then you look at the vaccine, doesn't get on the market if, you know, Ivermectin works. They cannot rush it out. And we would have seen all these side effects and problems because that safety trial would have lasted at least the two years it was supposed to be. Instead, they vaccinated the entire placebo group as soon as they were able to kill this

thing and rush it out. I mean, it's so incredibly corrupt. I was saying this morning, I am struggling to find any science. I feel like I can trust him. I feel like I got to go in the archives and just burn everything and start over. I don't, yeah, I have trouble. I don't know what to trust anymore, because I do know that the science that were presented, especially in the high impact journals, is highly curated.

You don't see the negative studies, like statins, unending repeatedly positive studies. And then when you look at pharmaceutical company conducted trials and then independent examinations, you find two very different conclusions. You don't find the safety, you don't find the efficacy. And so you're right, it's really disoriented because I don't know what to trust. I know the high impact journals, I have a lot of skepticism over. You want people who are free of conflicts of interest. That's about the only science that I'll trust at this point.

Would you ever work in government guy? I mean, I feel like there's a couple of politicians out there, Robert Kennedy Jr., Ron DeS, maybe even Donald Trump. He's singing about his vaccine, which is a disaster. But I do have a sense that some of you guys are being looked at. Is that something you would consider doing, NIH, CDC, HHS? Here's how I'd answer that. swamp? Who did you clean up that swamp? Bobby, who I have the most respect for, he's the only

candidate, again, I want to get political, but as a physician who's been deeply studied and who has seen the suffering and all the deaths that through this corrupt exercise of this COVID response, he's the only candidate who has a really well thought out and clear and I think impactful way to try to reform our health agencies and really put together a health system in a way that we were not so beholden to these massive financial interests. Well, I would imagine, because he knows people like you. So do you do it? He calls you? If Bobby Kennedy called me, I think it would be impossible for me to say no, but I would not be rushing to Washington. But you're putting me in a bad position here.

Speaking of politics, but I find hystericals because I know you're like a bleeding heart liberal and you have been your whole life. I used to be. Right. But now you're on Fox. Like you're going to be on Fox like all week long. You know, why is this a political issue? I don't even understand it. That's a fascinating one.

I mean, yes, suddenly if you believed in the science around one medicine, you were politically aligned with one political party. The best meme I saw is who likes penicillin better, Democrats or Republicans, which shows you how ridiculous the politicization of medicine has been in COVID. That's never happened before. You never had a political divide around medical therapies, right? I think it had to do with trust, I think, one side of the aisle distrusted what was coming out of these captured agencies, and the other side did, and then that's why it became political. And I think it's because one side was much, much more skeptical of what was coming out of government,

And that's the side that I think got it right. The more skeptical you were, the more correct you were. You can get your book, you know, right? It gets a great Christmas gift. You can get it on our website. But also, if people want to see this movie, we're going to see it at the end on our show here. But I want them, if they want their friends to check it out, they should go to your website. So where do we find all that?

Yeah, so the movie is housed on my substack, which is Medical Musings or p.r.courri.com. Okay. dot com and then I'll put it out on my Twitter. I'm going to ask a lot of my followers to spread it around. I think you'll include the link. Yeah, the movie will be out there and I hope people watch it. And again, it's not just about me selling books. I really do think, like you mentioned before, Del, I think I wrote that book in a way

that if someone reads that in 10 years, they want to really know what happened in COVID, I really do think that book will illustrate it in a way that will be very, very real to people, even 10 years from now. And I hope people read the book. Oh, I agree. I think this is going to be part of that historical record that's going to have us all scratching our heads. What happened there? Keep up the great work. You are really, you're making difference. You're bright, shining star here. You know, we've thrown out of a lot of flares, but you hit it this week. I am so excited about, you know, this sort of transformation that's happening in the mindset of this country. I know it's going to affect the world, so keep up the great work.

Thanks, still. Pleasure. And I'll tell you, you know, Tucker Carson made a comment this week about doctors and the ones that got it wrong. You're right. A lot of them got it wrong. and maybe they were too trusting. What's really shocking is the amount that still aren't admitting it and this is what he just said. Take a look at this. Fundamentally, everything they said was wrong about the VACs

and it's heard a lot of people and like where are all the, and some doctors, I know the three that you mentioned and they're great, but there are tens of thousands of doctors in the United States and why aren't they all standing up and saying, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, I cannot believe I recommend it.

I mean, I endorsed the Iraq war in 2003 and at the end of 2003, I realized I was wrong, and I felt bad about it for 20 years, 20 years. In fact, it was 20 years ago this week that I went to Iraq. And I felt bad about it ever since then, and at every opportunity, I apologize, not to please other people, but to maintain my dignity, my self-respect. I mean, that's a prerequisite. You have to, if you hurt someone unintentionally, you have to say, I'm sorry. And I can't believe that 99% of American doctors won't do that. And I'm not going to them, by the way.

I would never go to a doctor who was still lying about COVID because that's a dangerous person. That's an immoral person and a dangerous person. Or an idiot in the way that I look at it because I mean, and I totally agree. Look, if you're going to a doctor that's still telling you you should get the booster shot, turn around, find somebody else. This is a person that has no ability to understand science, no ability to see what's happening around them. So how do they have any concept of what's happening inside of your body? Clearly, they are a doctor, Google.

Their Google is to the CDC. And whatever the CDC is telling them to do, whether it's jump off a bridge or cut off their own arm or cut off your arm, I'm pretty sure they're going to do it. So I would find somebody else. I could not agree more, Tucker. Nailed it on the head as usual.