The Highwire with Del Bigtree - REDFIELD LETS LOOSE AT CONGRESSIONAL HEARING ON COVID ORIGINS

Episode Date: March 16, 2023

Former CDC Director, Dr. Robert Redfield, testified before The House Selection Committee on the Coronavirus Pandemic this week, letting loose on Anthony Fauci, Deborah Birx, Francis Collins, gain-of-function research and the lab origin debate detailing what he witnessed in early 2020. His testimonials are nothing short of historical.#Redfield #RoberRedfield #CovidLabOrigin #GainOfFunction #Fauci #Collins #Birx #COVIDBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

The select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic, the same people that put forward that letter just had a hearing. And they brought forward in that hearing, Dr. Robert Redfield, the former CDC director, and they asked him about phone calls. So during that time, we have emails. We went through those emails exhaustively. But there's also phone calls that happen that accompanied those emails, kind of back channel phone calls between Fowch and Fauci and Christian Anderson. And so they were asking the director Redfield, the former director, of the CDC. If he was on those calls, take a listen. Chairman, for two years, myself and the other Republicans on this subcommittee connected the dots.

We exposed the evidence supporting our strong belief that COVID was developed and leaked from the Wuhan lab. And during those same two years, the same Democrats that sit on this committee, they only hindered, they obstructed. They refused to hold hearings and get to the truth. Now we see mounting evidence supporting the COVID-19. originated from the Lab in Wuhan, China, run by the Communist Chinese Party. And this hearing is about getting to the truth. I thank the chairman for making this the very first hearing because the American people who have seen just as many fellow Americans die from COVID,

as nearly as many die from COVID, that died in every war since the American Revolution combined, deserve to know the truth. Dr. Redfield, you pointed to the Lab League theory, even before we did. In mid-January of 2020, you expressed concerns to Dr. Fauci, to Jeremy Farrow of UK's Welcome Trust, and to Dr. Tiedros of World Health Organization, that, quote,

we had to take the lab leak hypothesis with extreme seriousness, and you urge Dr. Fauci to investigate both the lab and the natural hypotheses. Shortly thereafter, on February 1st, Farer convened a meeting of a group of 11 top scientists across five time zones and asked Dr. Fauci to join, and he wrote, quote, my preference is to keep this group really tight, obviously ask everyone to treat in total confidence, unquote.

Dr. Redfield, you were excluded from this call, but up until then you had been on every single, you were included in every other conversation. What changed? Why do you think that you were excluded from these conversations? Thank you very much. I think just to emphasize, in early to mid-January, I did have multiple calls with Fauci, Farrar, and Tedros about how important I thought it was that science

get engaged in aggressive pursuing both hypotheses. I also expressed as a clinical virologist that I felt it was not scientifically plausible that this virus went from a bat to humans and became one of the most. infectious viruses that we have for humans. All viruses are not the same. So when you look at coronaviruses for SARS and MERS, for example, when they entered the human species, which they did via an intermediate, they never learned how to go human to human. Even to this day, they

don't know how to go human to human. So you can't equate Ebola with a coronavirus. Now why do you think you were excluded from those calls? Because it was told to me that they wanted a single narrative and that I have obviously had a different point of view. Okay. And emails following the conference call for the 11th scientists told Fauci that they all found the genetic sequence inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory, basically what you're saying.

However, just three days later, these four scientists had drafted a paper arguing the exact opposite, and that's now the infamous proximal origin of SARS-COVID 2. Our investigations show this paper was prompted by Dr. Fauci, among others, with a goal to disprove the lab leak theory. What is the likelihood that these scientists came across additional information just three days after making these statements to conclude with such certainty that COVID-19 came from nature instead of the lab leak that they thought it was three days earlier? Yeah, I think it's unfortunate. Again, I've said this before that this whole approach that was taken on February 1st and subsequently in the month of February, if you really want to be truthful, it's antithetical to science. Thank you.

Science has debate, and they squashed any debate. Thank you. Given what we know now and looking at all the conversations in February of 2020, and before the release of the paper, do you think that Dr. Fauci used this paper to hide the gain of function research created this virus? I can't talk about Fauci's motivation. Do you think that the paper does hide the truth? I think it's an inaccurate paper that basically was.

part of a narrative that they were creating. Remember, this pandemic did not start in January at the seafood market. We now know there was infections all the way back into September. This was a narrative that was decided that they were going to say this came from the wet market and they were going to do everything they could to support it to negate any discussion about the possibility that this came from a laboratory. I got 20 seconds left. Dr. Fauci was affirmatively told in an email that NIAID had a monetary relationship with the Wuhan Institute through EcoHealth Alliance. He was told this in January 27th of 2020.

Do you think that Dr. Fauci intentionally lied under oath to Senator Paul when he vehemently denied NIH's funding of gain of function research? I think there's no doubt that NIH was funding gain of function research. Is it likely that American tax dollars funded the gain of function research that created this virus? I think it did not only from NIH but from the State Department, USAID and from DOD. Wow, I mean, let's just take a moment here, folks, and try to remember any time that we've heard anything that dramatic happening up on Capitol Hill. This makes Nixon in trials over, you know, whether or not you tapped a phone.

We are talking about government officials conspired to create a narrative about a virus that was sweeping the planet. How you would deal with it would obviously help if you knew where it was coming from. and the head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is not being allowed as a part of the conversation, even though he's on the task force. I mean, I remember we were talking about this throughout, you know, we kept saying, I had FOIA requests out through Aaron's series saying, I just want all the emails between Fauci and Redfield that is written in all caps. It was so clear that there was no love lost between these two, but we didn't know why. Now we find out he's not being, you know, brought into any of the conversations. Yet CDC is going to take the fall for having, you know, misplayed this virus. It's outrageous.

I mean, it's amazing to think where this is all going. These are sound bites for the history books. And in a culture we have of fast media, we really need, like you said, take a breath and understand this is probably closer to the truth than we've ever received before we've ever heard. And from the get-go, I have a tendency to. I have a tendency to trust Redfield more than Fauci because he was the one in 2020 sounding the alarms about the increased suicide scene from the school closures and the opioid overdoses. He was saying, got to open these schools. He was saying that against all the public health advice at the time.

So he has a record of at least wanting to do the right thing. So now we have Jim Jordan, Congressman Jim Jordan, who is a co-chair at this committee. And he gets on the mic and he really goes for it. And so remember last week we were talking about Christian Anderson. and he was the one who originally started off this text message string or this email string from the FOIA request from Scripps. And we have Robert Gary from Tulane University. These are the guys who eventually received some money after they looked the other way initially saying, I think this looks not natural and all of a sudden it's just natural.

It's conspiracy theory to think anything else. Let's listen to Jim Jordan, ask Redfield some questions. This is great. Three years ago, if you thought it came from a lab, if you raised that, you were called a nut job. You got censored on Twitter. You were blacklisted on Twitter. You were even called a crackpot by the very scientist who in late January sent emails to Dr. Fauci and said it came from a lab. They called you crackpot.

Is that right, Dr. Redfield? I think the most upsetting thing to me was the Baltimore Sun calling me a racist because I said this came from a Wuhan lab. Dr. Reptel, you ran the CDC and you were on the coronavirus task force. Is that right? Correct. was formed on January 29th, 2020. Is that right? Correct.

Two days later, Dr. Fauci gets an email from Dr. Anderson, which says what? Virus looks engineered, virus not consistent with evolutionary theory. Is that accurate? That's my understanding. Next day, I know, did he share that email with you, by the way, Dr. Redfield?

No. As a member of the task force, as the head of CDC, did he share that email with you? No. Okay, next day, February 1, Dr. Gary sends Dr. Fauci another email. That email says, I don't know how this happens in nature, but it would be easy to do in a lab.

Did you share that email with you, Dr. Redfield? You didn't see either one of those emails, even though you're head of CDC, even though you're on the coronavirus task force that had been formed just two days, three days earlier. No. Three days later, Dr. Anderson and Dr. Gary, who told us it came from a lab and emails to Dr. Fouchy that Dr. Fouchy wouldn't let Dr. Redfield see three days later, they changed their position 180 degrees. The question is why?

Mr. Wade, why would they change their position? fast when the only intervening event is a conference call with Dr. Fauci, the guy who wouldn't let Dr. Redfield see the very emails that they had sent him. Dr. Redfield had a CDC on the coronavirus task force. Why would they change their position, Dr. Wade, or Mr. Wade? Well, if you're looking at the timeline on May 21st, just a few weeks after the Nation article had come out, two of the signatories of the original email to Dr. Fauci, that's Dr. Anderson and Dr. Gary were awarded a $9 million grant for the... So there's nine million reasons why they changed their mind.

I knew you'd get to it. I read that last night. Three months after, so three days after they say it came from a lab, they changed their position and the only intervening events, a conference call with Dr. Fauci and Dr. Collins, again, a call that Mr. Redfield was not allowed to be on the head of CDC and on the coronavirus task force. And then three months later, Shazan, they get nine million bucks from Dr. Fauci. Well, you didn't act something.

I mean, we've been reporting on this, obviously. It's not necessarily news to us, but what is news is this is now a part of, it is going down on record right now inside of the Congress. This is getting serious. These are serious, serious allocations. We are talking allegations. I mean, we're talking about, you know, millions of people worldwide dying from this. this thing and for all various reasons, all of which have been reported here, but now we're getting

to the bottom of who was involved. Clearly Redfield was left out because he saw this differently. Right. And so there's been a lot of information, a lot of internal emails. This is a lot for everybody to really comprehend sometimes because we go so deep in these investigations. But you know, this next piece, send this to your family, send this to your friends if they're still on the fence about this. We have the director, former director of the CDC, a part of the coronavirus task force at the genesis in 2020, before the response happened, this was shaping this response, what they decided of where this thing came from. And this is a virologist as well, Dr. Redfield, and listen to what he says here.

Has gain of function stopped a pandemic, in your opinion? No, in the contrary, I think it probably caused the greatest pandemic our world has seen. Wow. I mean, that's incredible. You know, these science laboratories, man's mistake, clearly more dangerous than any God-given virus we've seen. And I've said it before, if we keep allowing the pharmaceutical industry to make products that don't go through proper safety trials and then get forced by government mandate upon

all the humans on this earth, our species isn't going to, we're not going to survive this level of stupidity. Luckily, it looks like many of us may have made it through this one, but we've got to stop this now. Incredible, Jeffrey. Absolutely. Absolutely. And, you know, the gain of function is being used as the excuse. We have to do this research in order to make vaccines in order to catch the next pandemic before it starts.

And there's Dr. Redfield virologists at really the beginning of this whole thing to saw how it had unfolded, saying, giving that warning, that warning to stop this gain of function research. And I think that's important just to leave the audience with, because it's one of the most important messages here. Absolutely incredible reporting, Jeffrey, and so huge. And to see some of the things we're doing looks like it's making it into these conversations. Just a really spectacular time. And as I've said, I really believe it's time for indictments. It's time for arrest.

And I think this is moving in that direction. So we'll see how this goes.