The Highwire with Del Bigtree - REINSTATED: DR. TENPENNY WINS YEARS-LONG COURT BATTLE

Episode Date: May 13, 2024

Osteopath and pioneer in the vaccine safety movement, Sherri Tenpenny, DO, describes her two-year battle with the Ohio State Medical Board, which led to a temporary suspension of her medical license, after speaking on the dangers of the COVID-19 vaccines at a state health committee meeting.#SherriTenpenny #OhioMedicalBoard #ReinstatedBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

Throughout COVID, so many great and wonderful, powerful doctors have stepped forward, whether there's Dr. Peter McCullough and Dr. Robert Malone and Merrick and Corey and all these great doctors and scientists. But there were a few that did it when there was no team. When they were designing the sport of, you know, mono-emonell battle with the medical industry. One of those is none other than Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, who has had one of the wonderful. of the loudest, most powerful and educated voices in modern medicine. So many people everywhere I go say, I love the work that you're doing, Del, but you know who really got me started?

Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. We have someone who has spent two decades bringing the truth about vaccine safety to the people. The person that had the most clout behind them, the most information. Widely regarded as the most knowledgeable and outspoken physician on the adverse impact that vaccines can have on health. She's probably the most respected and well-known medical doctor out there breaking down exactly what's happening with these vaccines that are being pushed on us. In many ways, I consider her a maverick in medicine. You know that I call you times when I'm looking for information. You are a wealth of information. The one and only Dr. Sherry Tenpenny.

Please welcome Dr. Sherry Ten Petty. I'm not really speaking against anything. I'm just pro information and think that people should have a fully informed decision about vaccinating their children. My mission actually for the last 23 years has been to inform people about the problems associated with vaccines, but they're not safe, they don't keep you from getting sick, they're not necessary, and they absolutely cause harm, and I'm talking about all of them. I've been a practicing physician in Ohio since 1985. I was board certified in emergency medicine and director of a level to trauma center in Finley, Ohio for 12 years before moving to Cleveland to start my own private practice. In September of 2000, I went to the National Vaccine Information Center meeting in Washington,

D.C., and learned about all kinds of problems with vaccines that I never knew. When I was a board-certified emergency medicine physician working in the ER, I really thought that the only thing in a vaccine was a little dead or attenuated virus and a little bit of normal saline. I'm not exaggerating at all when I say I've spent well beyond 40,000 hours, probably closer to or more through all the time, all the time I spent reading about the stuff during COVID, looking at the problems associated with vaccines and vaccination. I can unequivocally say vaccines have never been proven to be safe. They do not keep you from getting sick.

They definitely cause harm. When COVID came along and the COVID shots came along, it was just a natural extension for me to go, well, what is this all about? What are the ingredients here? What is this going to do to people looking at the EUA and why are we injecting experimental? drugs into people and young children and pregnant women. Historically, when you really look at the elimination of smallpox and the elimination of polio, the elimination of pertussis, the elimination of measles, there are innumerable graphs that show that those infections were long gone before the

vaccine even came around. I have a collection of more than 17,000 abstracts, links to abstracts in full-text articles, more than 17,000, only from peer-reviewed published journals. that show problems associated with vaccine. We are here today to challenge the premise that injecting foreign matter and toxic chemicals is safe. We're here today to challenge the premise that vaccines are necessary for health. They would think it's as necessary as food, water, and oxygen.

Because the fact is, is that they are doing the exact opposite from providing health. They are causing disease. If a person is so crippled by fear over a virus that has a documented death rate of less than 1% globally. And they want to bow to an untested pharmaceutical product out of their fear? Well, that needs to be their decision.

They can make that choice. We have got so much information on our side. So when Paul Offett says stuff like, the science is over, we won. Exactly, let me tell you something off it. The science is over and we've won. It's true. How can it possibly be that 200 years later, We still have this horrible mistake called vaccination going on and that people are just bought into that paradigm, hookline and sinker, and without even thinking about it.

The most important takeaway I want you to remember is that absolutely health does not come through a needle. Thank you very much. Well, she's a person that no one asks. So what really is your position on vaccines? It's the one, the only Dr. Sherry. 10-50. Hey, good day, Bell. Thank you so much for having me here. It's always a pleasure to have you. You're an icon. You, as I said before, when COVID hit a lot of, a lot more than we've ever seen. It was really, I think, a great moment seeing a lot of doctors waking up. That had probably

ridiculed you throughout their careers. I'm sure you've gotten a lot of apologies. But you got, yeah. You think? But I want to talk about like this journey you've been on, really for about two years. You also did some speaking out about COVID and about the vaccine. And like so many doctors, had your license under threat. So I'd like to sort of go back because we really didn't get to talk to you about that. When did this all start?

Well, in that little clip that you saw where I had on kind of a white jacket that was kind of brown, that was my testimony at the Ohio State Medical Committee, health committee, in June of 2021. Okay. And then by September of 21, I started getting letters from the state medical board that they wanted, the first one they wanted me to have a psychiatric evaluation to see whether or not I was fit to practice medicine. Then they wanted... I actually think we have that.

Do we have... Here it is. By the authority vested in the State Medical Board of Ohio by section whatever, Ohio, revised code you are ordered to submit to an examination this examination will take place at u.h Cleveland Medical Center so and though it was interesting so there it is for a psychiatric evaluation and what was interesting about that is that I was supposed to show up there for a psych evaluation and I was supposed to pay I believe it was $3,000 right to my executioner to do an evaluation with me that's probably the first oh $2,000 yeah right there we go that's probably the first

part of the test I mean if you pay that you must be crazy. That could be it. That could be very well true. So we responded legally and said, no, we're not doing this. I've never been, I've never thankfully, thank God, knock on wood. I've never had been in a malpractice suit. I've never really even had any complaints from the state medical board, even though I found out from a state medical board investigator that if somebody called the Ohio State Medical Board and said, I want to go on record as saying Dr. Tempenny is the best doctor ever so that if anybody complains, you've got a counter complaint. This investigator told me that if you said I want that put into the record, it would go into the record as a complaint. Really? Because their system is so antiquated. So they only have one type of comment that can be made, even if it's positive, it gets put it filed as a complaint. Wow. And so I didn't do that.

Then they wanted me to come down for a hearing in front of the state medical board, and they said in the letter that it was not allowed to bring legal counsel, which violates obviously all of your rights. Right. And then there was another one that they wanted me to come down and just go through an investigation with them so they can ask me questions. And then the fourth one, they said they wanted to really have a hearing with the full board and have me show up, which was August of last year. So we went to that one, and one of the investigators on the board read into the record at the very beginning. There's this the whole panel of them, and two of them read things into the record. But the second gentleman said, this is not about Dr. Tempenny's position on vaccines.

It's not about what she said about magnetism. It's not what she said about 5G. It's the fact that she will not cooperate with us in an investigation. Did you ever figure out why, by the way, like spoons and things are sticking to people's faces? Well, there is a thing that's called magnofection, that they've actually used magnetic little nanobots in medicine for a while. They've been doing a lot of investigations. They've been doing from a lot of different medicine. Yeah, it's metallic things.

And like a lot of things in medicine and in government, it starts out to be kind of a good idea. I mean, if they can inject a little thing that has a little dot of chemotherapy in it, and it delivers it directly to the tumor instead of you getting the whole thing about chemotherapy and it deposits its load there, it's directed externally by a magnet or by a frequency, that would probably be a good thing. But then, like a lot of things, they turn out to be not so good. So at that hearing, they said it wasn't anything to do with the fact that I had failed to investigate, or failed to cooperate, even though I legally responded by my lawyers.

every single thing, and that they said that I would have my license indefinitely suspended until I cooperated with them in the investigation. So they basically said it's not about what you've said. It's not about, you know, even in the hearing that you were at. Or my position on COVID. Or your position on COVID. It's just that you are not cooperating with our investigation. But then what, if those things don't matter, why are you being investigated at all?

I think begs the question. But they said you weren't compliant. Were you not compliant? I mean, you didn't show up for the psych evaluation. Well, we legally responded to them. And it's like my lawyer said, you know, he said, just because they didn't like the answer doesn't mean we didn't cooperate with them. And my one lawyer, Eric Jones, who now helps people to resolve their social security issues if they've been injured by COVID.

He also does state medical board things. He said that he went back through 42 years of records with the Ohio State Medical Board. Not one single other physician had ever been suspended for, quote, to cooperate, even though I had cooperated. I answered every single one of their responses. So I was to pay a fine, and my license would be indefinitely suspended. Now, that's one thing that got all blurred over in the news. They said my license had been taken away and been taken away.

Now, there's a difference between suspension and revocation. When they revoke your license, they take it and you can't get it back. When they suspended, it just means you can't see patients, you can't practice medicine because you got a slap on the knuckles until which time they tell you you can. Right. So my license was suspended. It was never revoked. And so I said, well, okay, whatever.

Yeah, here's one of the headlines. Ohio suspends license position. He said COVID-19 shot magnetizes recipients. And by the way, I've watched that video. And though, you know, I would have probably avoided getting into the magnets as a part of a help. Or you did say there's no, there's just, there are people that things to leave. There's a lot of things we should be investigating. You're saying I'm not saying it's causing it, but there are lots of questions around this vaccine.

Well, the reason that I answered that like that was because the gal on the state medical board, one of the representatives, the questions she posed to me was, have you seen any unusual responses or reactions to the COVID shot? Right. And I said, well, I'm sure you've all seen on the internet all these pictures of people putting a coin on their head or different things. It seems as though that's kind of interesting. Somebody should investigate it. pretty bland statement if you really think about it i didn't say anything about causality right just said something's happening there somebody ought to look at so again it was all taken out of context and all blown up and and so by december so that was in august and by December um i started having to

fill out some forms for various things that said um have you ever been under any investigation by your state medical board well yes and i didn't want that following me around forever right so you wanted to do. Just get it off my record. It was like, oh, wait a minute, I'm going to have to start, like, filing myself. It's like a scarlet letter. It is. Yeah. And it is. It's sort of like, if, like, I was named in one malpractice suit when I was in the ER in about 1994. That's how long it was. And I was just named. I was dismissed from the case. But that follows you around forever. Like, every time you apply for medical malpractice insurance, you have to go through and document all of it and submit a letter. And I don't.

didn't want to go through that again. So I said to Eric, my attorney, I said, what were those questions again? Because they were pretty self-incriminatory. So he sent him to me. And now that's three years later that we have all this documented evidence of the problems that the COVID shots have caused and that there is scientific information about the 5G and the frequencies. And we know about the self-assembling nanobots. We know about graphene oxide. We know all of these things. So I said to I'm just going to answer these questions. And I said, so I did. And they asked silly questions, like,

since you tell people never to get a vaccine, that you've never tell people to never get an MMR vaccine, have any patients in your practice gotten measles? Well, first of all, I never say that. I always say, here's the risk of the infection, here's what you can do about it, here's the risk of the vaccine, here's what's in it.

Now you decide, let the patients or the parents decide. So I said, well, I don't think so, but I never think so. But I never tell people not to do that. So I just cut and pasted that on every answer because they asked me every thing. Here you can see it right now. Of the patients to whom you recommend and not receive vaccinations or to whom you did not administer vaccinations, how many contracted measles?

You answered, none that I know of. However, I do not tell parents not to vaccinate. I tell them the ingredients in each vaccine. I tell them the true risk prevalence of the infection the shot should protect against. I tell them the potential side effects from the infection versus the vaccination. and then they can decide if they want the vaccine. And there's like 10 or more questions like that. You kept pasting.

I never. I'd never tell them not to put it back in their butt. And your answer is like, not that I know it. Has anyone gotten polio? Not that I know of. Has anyone gotten TB or whatever? Then they asked me, dude,

because of my position on vaccines, have I lost patients? And I wrote, to the contrary, I think I've gained practice patients because. The contrary, when he suspended my license, I finally had a vacation. Something like that. Yeah.

Because I said, you know, people want to go to a doctor's office where they have, they get true informed consent. Yeah. And they get options. Yeah. They're not dictated to. And one of the questions was, would I administer a vaccine in my office? I said, no.

Well, what if patients wanted a vaccine? Well, there are lots of other places they can go to get one if they want it. Right. So there were 33 of those questions. So I answered all the questions. We had it notarized. We sent it to the state medical board. January 7th of this year, right after the holidays, and after innumerable contacts with the

state medical board, by phone calls, emails, text messages, they were absolutely crickets. They did not answer at all. So we decided as a legal strategy, we were going to file something with the court called a writ of mandamus, which is actually asking the court to tell the state medical board to do their job. Right. And my attorney, Eric, he said, I don't know if the court's going to know what to do with this, you're asking the court to tell the state medical board to investigate you.

Will you investigate me already? Please get this over with. So on the day before we were going to submit this to the court, Eric called the attorney that represents the Ohio State Medical Board and said, you know, they're going to look really bad because they're going to lose. And I just wanted to put you, let you know that we're going to do this. The very next morning at like 8 a.m., we got an email back from the state medical board. On further investigation, we've decided to release your license.

It's no longer revoked and you can reinstate your ability to practice. So we thought that, you know, and they voted unanimously and they actually sent me a letter and an email and all these things. So it was just a big scam and just a big hoax all along, just a way to kind of shut me up and try to shut me down economically. Try to do things that, you know, fortunately I have a pretty good size practice. So I have another doctor and some physician's assistants so patients could still get care. But I can see where, you know, it's the reason why when you say to other physicians, when you say the word state medical board, they just shake in their shoes. And if the state medical board requests a piece of paper, they'll send them a banker box full of stuff and they'll self-incriminate them. So my message to other physicians who may be hearing this is just hold your ground.

And you know you're right. Hold your ground. Don't oversell your position. So can we call this breaking news? Have you told anyone else that you got your license back? Hey, everybody, this is what it means to stay in your ground, right? To actually stand in it. Sherry, you did it.

It was just April 24th. Wow. So it just happened. Just like a week ago. Just a week ago, you got your license. Yeah. Fuller back unanimously. Yeah.

And they're really, I mean, they're licking the wounds. And I think you're right. If you'd answer those questions in the middle of it, it may not have had the same power because they thought they're right. I just similarly got interviewed, you know, was asked some questions by the Wall Street Journal. They always say, you know, you spread conspiracy theories on your show The High Wire, you know, and how do you, I say, you know, there's a lot of things I've covered. True. There's a lot of things I've covered in the high wire that have been described as being conspiracy theories like the lab origin of the COVID virus, the lack of effectiveness by the vaccine and the inability to stop infection, the fact that social distancing wasn't based in science, which now Tony Fauci's admitted in front of the Congress, all things, in fact, that we have a better record on than the the Wall Street Journal. I'm getting really tired of you guys who got wrong saying that somehow what we do is a conspiracy theory. I mean, I have no problem standing in their face because

we're right. I mean, we have the benefit of time, right? I stand by every video I have out there in the world. You can put these like, you know, misinformation or conspiracy theories, but those are just nothing statement. They don't mean anything. What did I say? I point out a single thing I got wrong. That's not now back in science. I'd love to see it. Yeah, really. Truly, you've been in the forefront of, in a leader of doing it big and broad and loud, which is really, really important. I mean, if when COVID started between March, about the end of March of 2020, when everything first started, through December of 21, so in that period of time, it's 18 months or so, I did over 600 interviews, you know, just the same thing as broad and as many people that wanted to hear

it's saying that the vaccines aren't safe. They don't stop transmission. They do cause harm. If you really think you want this vaccine, the only thing you ask you to just wait. Wait a little bit. You don't have to be the first person standing in line. You can wait a couple weeks, a couple months,

see what the results are going to be. Take your time. And with doctors who are facing anything from their state medical board, stand your ground. You know, physicians somehow, you know, one of the problems that physicians have where I am a little bit different is that most physicians are W-2 employees.

Their employees are a big hospital system, so they got a boss that can fire them. You know, I'm an independent practitioner in my own office, and so I am the boss. So I'm not going to fire me this week. You got to get out of that system. That system's corrupt. I think it kills more people than it saves at this point. So I know that most doctors got into this because they really wanted to save lives. I do believe that, and I just think they get caught in a system.

where they become yes men, yes, women, and I think most of them are stifling a real concern that they are doing more harm than good but are afraid to speak out about it. I think that's really true. I think that when you make the decision you're going to go to medical school, you're 18, 19, 20,

and you think it's going to do, you do really good things to help people and you don't know until you are eight years and $400,000 into your education that's really not what's going to happen. It's really not the way that it is, and it's too late to turn back at that point in time. And I think there are a lot of physicians

that have issues with depression, and to get over that, they just ignore it and just say, I'm just following protocol. It's greater good. I mean, I don't fully understand the numbers, but I'm being told we save more lives doing it this way than we lose. Yeah.

So I'm really excited to be able to, you know, this is like, it's just me, but it's really important to let people know that they have unsuspended my license, I guess reinstated is the proper term. And to encourage people to stand on what you know is right, don't back down. Yeah.

You know, whether it's with your job or if you're a physician, you know, somebody comes after you with the state medical board, don't shake in your shoes, you know, grow some strong feet and stand there and be brave. Well, that's the most important thing you can do. I mean, I think, you know, more than, as you said, just protecting yourself, You've shown the way to other doctors. I did fine. I got through it.

I faced it. You're going to turn out just fine. You said something I hadn't really thought about. You said, you know, in your practice, if you want to get a vaccine, there's other places you can go and do that. You did once in your career give vaccines. Is that correct? Only when I was in the ER. Okay, only in the ER.

And I would only did it on, even back then when I really didn't know anything about vaccines, just like most physicians, you know, you've, you've, interviewed a lot of physicians and said, how much did you learn about vaccines in medical school? It's like essentially nothing. Right. And so, but it was just, I used to give out tetanus shots like they were a special kind of candy, you know, it was just, you just, because you knew tetanus was a uniformly, a uniformly fatal disease until I started investigating tetanus, and it's not. Right. It's a bad infection. You don't want to have it. The best way to avoid it is to clean out the wound, warm, soapy water. There's some homeopathics you can use. Make it bleed a little bit, right?

Make it bleed a lot. You take an antibiotic. There's different things that you can do. And so people, because when I started reading the backdrop on tetanus, it would say like, you know, so and so this is what happened. This is what they did. They contracted tetanus. And then they fully recovered.

And I read case after case after case. And we're like, fully recovered. It was like, like, what's this happening in my brain? Because we know that tetanus kills people. Well, it didn't. And so that was kind of one of my biggest turning points when I started investigating vaccines 25 years ago now, was that. And even in the ER, like the kids would come in

and the nurses would come up to me and say, you know, they're behind on the vaccines. This is an opportunity to catch them up. And that's actually an official medical term called catch up. And I would say, no, don't give them the, no, they got an ear infection, they got a fever, they got more important things to deal with than do that right now.

And the nurses would look at me like I had four heads, you know, because all the other doctors would say, yeah, of course give it to them. So they would be vaccinating sick children. And I didn't know anything about vaccines that I did now, but it just didn't seem like the right thing to do. Yeah. It's a really good point.

One of my favorite things when people will come up and say, you know, well, you know, measles is deadly. You want people to die from measles? Like I think there's Brandy's Rosny, like one of the really intense reporters out there outside of the march we did in Washington. You know, well, measles, I mean, measles is deadly. I was like, no, it's not. And she's like, of course.

Are you saying it's not deadly? I said, how are you standing here asking me this question? Say, what do you mean? I'd like to know how you're standing here. If measles is deadly, it's one of the most infectious viruses on the planet. Almost everybody caught it. So that means your grandparents survived it. In fact, look at this, like that point, it's like 40,000 people out for the stage.

Look at all these people. They're all only here today because their grandparents didn't die from measles. So I don't know what you're talking about. The seven billion people on this planet are here because measles did not kill their grandparents when they caught it. So I mean, to your point, they push a narrative that's just simply not true. Now, honestly, I think we've burned them enough with statements like that. I think I recently saw the reason is you get a measles vaccine is not that it's really that dangerous.

It's just that you want your kid missing school. So they're lightning up on it, right? They're lightning up saying this death line, we're starting to get called out on it. All right. I want to ask you, though, because you do, you're always doing great intensive work. You do online courses that are like going to Harvard Medical School. But what are you focused on right now? What is your muse right now?

As you look at the world, what do you sort of focused on as a real problem? Well, two things, actually. One is about what's actually getting into our food supply. You know, it's like things that are getting injected into our food supply, and they're feeding the animals that gets into our food supply. We know about it commonly how they've kind of kind of, cut back a lot on giving antibiotics to the animals because it does get into the food supply. But there's a whole lot of other things that I'm investigating that gets injected or fed

to our animals and the things that we eat and then some solutions for that. And the other thing that's like probably the biggest thing on my mind is I, you know, I became, you know, I've always been a Christian, but I became a really strong devoted question in January of 2020. And so my substacks that I write, I write just in the nick of time. Yeah, seriously. That's a whole other long story in it of itself. But it was, you know, I started writing the substack, two substacks a week. One is called, one is called, um, one is called, um. There's one right now, Walking with God. Yes, which is, which is my book. Can I show me? Yeah, sure, please. So it became my book. So out of my substacks, I wrote my book, I wrote my book on Walking with God. It's a compilation of my substacks. And I like it because it's like lots of pictures and, and it's really nice. and it's got lots of different things in it.

It's like not a one and done book. It's not like something when people say, oh, I want to read your book. Well, it's not like you get it and you read it to the end and you put it on the shelf. It's like two or three minutes of daily inspiration. Love that. And it's not like a daily thing.

By the table of contents, it's divided into be brave, have hope, embrace faith, deep in trust, and practice obedience. So on those days that you need a little inspiration of that, you can just turn to one and just kind of read it. So I spent a lot of time on that. And my other substack,

called Eye on the Evidence, which is very medical related. And right now I'm doing a whole series on the immune system, because we're always talking about building up your immune system, but people don't even really know what that means. What is our immune system all about and what can we do better to support it? So I think teaching people more about their own bodies is a way to have them be more self-responsible. You know, we get one of these. We get three or four cars, we get a couple houses, get a couple spouses, you know. You get a whole bunch of things like that, but you get one of these.

And we don't really know how to take care of it very well. So I'm like slowly going through and teaching some people about that. And then the food supply is a really big deal for me. What kind of things like, I mean, when you first brought this up, I thought you were, you know, we were talking behind the scenes just about, it's like vaccinations in the food supply. I was like, oh, you mean how they're going to put vaccines in the lettuce? That's where I thought you were going. But it's really what's already happening. It's what's already happening.

I mean, I started an article. A friend of mine who was staying at my house had brought home some junk food. And I looked at it, I said, what the heck is in this? So I picked up the package and it said, made with B.E. ingredients. And I said, what is a B.E. ingredient? So I looked it up and it's bioengineered, which is different than genetically modified. Those two things are not synonyms. Genetically modified is when they insert a type of bacterial gene into the cell.

bioengineered means they actually slice out pieces of genes and put things together. They're creating a new organism, completely new organism. So when I started looking at that, I found the, I think there's 17 different things that the USDA, in combination with the FDA, allowed to be genetically modified or bioengineered. So what started out to be a 2,000-word substact turned into a 42-page research paper, which was the beginning of where I'm going to. with this book that I'm writing. And the one, the section that really got me

was about the genetically engineered by the genetically modified salmon. And when I was reading and investigating this, I found that they have 20, at the time that I read it, there was 26 vaccines for fish. Fish vaccines. And then a later date paper now says there's 50. Now put that in perspective.

I mean, there's 17 vaccines in the pediatric human schedule And they give our fish 50 vaccines. And the USDA does not require the ingredients to be put on the package label. So if you go get a package insert of your dog getting a shot or your cat or your cow or you don't know what's in it. And when I called the USDA and I made 10 phone calls and the last phone call ended up, I spoke to someone in Ames, Iowa in the USDA Public Health Service Department. and they took me to a website where it showed what was the package labeling requirements. They don't have to put the ingredients. I said, well, can I call Zoetis, which is the big, Zouettis and Merck are the two largest vaccine manufacturers for animals

and asked them, you know, what are the ingredients in this particular vaccine for fish? And they said, yeah, but they'll probably tell you it's a trade secret and they won't tell you what it is. So researching this and digging deeper to really find what's the ingredients in vaccines that they give to fish and cows and chickens and sheep and and what they're doing to genetically engineer all these different things it's it's a really big deal it's a really really so much bigger deeper and darker than what you even know it's not even about like the lettuce thing where they're gonna make vaccines from lettuce it's it's more than that wow and so do there are that I mean are they taking

fish like injecting them with that actually happens there's three ways that they can vaccinate fish one is they They can make, put the vaccine in the pellets and they feed them these pellets, this farm fish with soy and all kinds of things that fish never eat. And then the second thing is they have big vats filled with the vaccine or a percentage of vaccine that the fish swim around in and through their gills. They take it into their bodies. And the third way is they actually anesthetized the fish and they actually inject them. They have injectors that they can inject up to a thousand fish per hour. Wow.

And they actually, they put it into their belly into their parotone. area. They actually did a small study of 12 fish, like what happens to the fish after they've been injected. And these fish got sick and they hung out at the bottom of the pen and they acted like they were in pain and the other fish were around protecting them. And then when they harvested the fish, they found that all of their intestines had like adhered together almost like a scar tissue. Wow. Now, not only are we contaminating the food we eat, we're really doing harmful things to these people. Can you imagine? Just little fish is just swimming around just trying to a fish. Who do the fish for having an issue with viruses? Exactly. Wow. And the only reason that they're

having issues with some of those viruses, and they call them sea lice and things like that, is because our water is so contaminated. The oceans are so contaminated with plastics and pollutants and, you know, all these different things. So a lot of people would say, well, that's fine. I'm going to just buy local. I'm going to buy for my local farmer. Well, the USDA now is trying to pass a law, that the farmer has to put up equipment to keep the runoff that goes into local streams of like cow dung and things like that, that it may cost small farmers up to $300,000 to buy the equipment and then they have to pay an annual fee, which is going to put our small food farmers out of business. Right. I mean, that's something I'm really been getting more and more fascinating by because I do want regulations.

We want to make our food supply safer, but what you realize is sometimes, when you are wanting a regulation to make sure that we're not getting run off in our water, that the big ag companies love those regulations because they're the ones that can afford to put in that equipment. And it knocks out their competition of the organic Amish farmer that's really not having issues, but can't afford to put in all this extra equipment. And so these are spaces, you know, the more I sort of look at the political systems. There's just not easy answers to some of the problems that are out there. You know, I just attended virtually a conference they had in San Francisco a few weeks ago.

It was a three-part conference. I attended virtually the first and the third part. The first part was called Future Ag of what they're doing to our cows and chickens primarily and how they're replacing that with like cricket flour, cricket protein. The second part was an international one that I didn't listen to, but the third one was called Future Food. And it was really interesting and eye-opening about what they're doing to food. And all of them are very much, oh, it's all about global warming and it's all about carbon footprint and we have to eliminate the carbon. I didn't know until I attended that that there's actually pellets that they give to cows to cut down on their methane release because it's, you know, protecting the planet.

And they made a really big deal. All of them were, yes, we have to do the synthetically made meat. We have to. It's just absolutely the only way that's going to be sustainable, that we're going to be able to maintain all of this stuff. And so you listen to all these conversations. And the only, there's two things about that. One, the takeaway was they're going to hide it, I believe, by calling it fermented food. And, you know, we in the natural health industry know that fermented food is very good for us, you know, like fermented cabbage and things like that. Well, they're going to hide it by calling it fermented food because it's coming out of these huge fermenters that making this artificial meat. The other thing is that the funding has really been cut back on a lot of these things, and they don't know how to scale. So it's going to take a lot. We talked about a lot of investors are bailing out.

It's just not growing. It's not growing because they can't scale it because they have issues not only with taste, but with texture. You know, does it really feel like meat in your mouth? And we talked about this a little before. I mean, if you have a steak for dinner and how that steak taste in your mouth when it's hot and fresh off the grill versus maybe the next morning. You may have a little piece of it.

It's cold. It's still the same steak, but it has a different texture. So they're really dealing with textures and flavors and digestibility. And so the good news is it's not growing as fast as what the media would have you believe. Yeah. You know, the bad news is there's a lot of players in that space

that they're really working for it. They're really working to get it done. Sherry, how do we follow all the work that you're doing and, you know, where's the best place to sort of check out your stuff? Well, the best place, everything sort of buttons up to. buttons up to Dr.tenpenny.com. So it's DR10penny.com. Okay. Without the period. So it's just DR10penny.com. And that's where we have, you know,

you can find my two substacks that I do. One is DR10penny.substack.com and the other is 10penny walk with God, doc sudsac.com. Those are the two places I hang out the most. I do seven podcasts a week. And so we're pretty busy. You sure are. You know, just to get the word out and have a lot of interesting guests on, like, like what you have. Not merely as big as you, but we're all doing our part, you know. This takes all of us and really I'll never be as big as you.

You have saved millions and millions of lives. I mean it everywhere I go. That's the people say, I mean, more common than any other name, they say the person that really, that I started seeing these videos by Dr. Sherry Tenpenny on the vaccine issue. And that changed my life forever. You're changing lives. You continue to do it. I'm so psyched.

You've got your license back. I'll make one more little comment? Please. Because I know a lot of people have been praying for me since I had the stroke. And I'm not shy to talk about it. I always just think she was healthy, right? Well, I'm not shy to talk about it because it's a journey. You know, that was August 29.

So this medical board stuff was August 7th, and on August 29th, stress and everything, I had the stroke. And at first, I was completely paralyzed on my left side. I had lots of good care, thousands of great prayers, and I'm really doing well. I mean, I still have a little bit of weakness in this leg and a little bit of things with balance, but compared to where I was in just a short period of time, like, thank God that it's all better. But I just wanted to let your audience know because I know we have a lot of cross people that all your prayers and everything really helped. It's a lot of hard physical, a lot hard work on my part, but a lot of prayer on the other side. So thank you to everybody.

Absolutely. We're so happy you're doing well. Got your license back. getting your health back. Yeah. You look fantastic, by the way. Thank you. I was coming in for a while.

I was like, so you're living there now? You look here. You look rested. No, I was just giving a talk. Well, I hope you continue to give those talks. It's great to see you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.

All right. Oh, and by the way, let me give you one last plug here. Here you go. We'll have connected on the chat right now. Definitely check out this book. It is really a beautiful book. One of those things you can just sit down and have a moment of being blessed,

of feeling inspired by Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. I just wanna make sure we go out and support that book.