The Highwire with Del Bigtree - RFK, Jr. DISCUSSES The Real Anthony Fauci

Episode Date: December 13, 2021

Activist and environmental lawyer, Robert Kennedy, Jr., highlights for Del just a few of Fauci’s most nefarious actions in the name of medicine from his #1 best selling new book, The Real Anthony Fauci.#TheRealAnthonyFauci #RFKJr #FireFauciBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

As I've said, it takes commitment, right? Where I know that we have 10%. I don't mean to be putting anyone down. I'm just talking about a level of commitment, right? Really getting in, diving and doing something. Being involved will not only change the people around you. It changes your own life and your own perspective. And I think one of the greatest examples of that in many ways

is one of the most famous families we have, and that's the Kennedy family. I've had the honor and pleasure to be able to call Robert Kennedy Jr. A very close friend of mine. And I've sat in conversations with him when he's talked about what it was like to grow up in the Kennedy family. His grandfather would make them stand at the end of the table and recite having memorized very long poems before they'd be able to allow to eat at dinner. And his own father would drive through impoverished neighborhoods and say, these are your people. These who we protect, not the people that can protect themselves, those who are not capable of handling their own issues or need to be helped. And so in that family, look at how many senators and politicians that run, you know, different sporting events and take care of handicapped.

I mean, is it genetic? I mean, is that genetic? Is it just simply because if you're born a Kennedy, that means you just do something? Or is it how they're socialized in that family to make a difference? Maybe we all can take a little playbook from that and say, you know what, I want my kids to be active. I want them to be out there. I want them to be able to speak their truth. Well, nobody does it better.

the statesman of this movement is Robert Kennedy Jr. and he, you know, made his way into Europe just recently, just a few weeks ago to speak in Italy. And this was that profound, prophetic and dynamic moment. No government in the history of mankind has ever relinquished power voluntarily. The power that they have taken away from us. Over the past 20 months, they will never give back. They have taken away our freedom of speech. They have closed the churches. They have taken away jury trials against companies, no matter how negligent they are,

no matter how reckless they are, no matter how grievous your injury. your injury, you cannot sue that company. They have taken away our property rights in the United States. They closed a million businesses for a year with no just compensation and no due process. They have taken away our right to be free of warrantless searches and seizures and surveillance by the government. This is a global couping.

against liberal democracy across the planet. And all of these rights that were taken away from us, these governments said it was temporary, it was only two weeks, it would be over. In truth, you can all see what's happening. They are taking those rights and they will never give them back unless we make them. We've watched him speak to thousands of people

all around the world. of course, here in the United States of America. He's really the statesman, I would say, both for the vaccine risk awareness movement. Of course, one of the greatest environmental attorneys that the world has ever known. But the reason I want to talk about him today and have him on the show is because of this, the real Anthony Fauci. I just read this book, and I honestly cannot say enough. This may be the most important book of my lifetime, and I really mean that.

We have been discussing on the high wire, Tony Fauci as we've gone through this pandemic. There's been a lot of conversations about, you know, what is it he's doing, how much he's manipulating, the lies and the deceit, but nothing puts it together in a way like they have in this book. It's now the number one seller on Amazon, bestseller on the New York Times list, Wall Street Journal, all of that without any help from the press, all the backs of people that keep sharing this. It's my honor and my pleasure to be joined right now.

now by Robert Kennedy Jr. I mean it. I tweeted out myself that in the future, the history books will record two groups of people, those that read this book and those that did not. And here's a spoiler alert. The people that are going to write those history books were the ones that read it because they're the only ones that are going to survive. It's so important. And so to begin with why this book, of all the things you could write about, why Tony Fauci? Well, you know, Del, that I, you know, I've been doing environmental law for 40 years, so I had a kind of a special insight on the dynamic of agency capture, which most Americans don't know about. Most Americans are idealistic, both liberal Democrats, conservative Republicans.

They may be skeptical about public officials, but they kind of believe in their hearts that the public officials really are at some level. public servants and are trying their best to do the right thing. And I had the unique insight because I've wrote over 500 lawsuits on environmental issues and probably about a fifth of those, about 20% were against government agencies like the EPA or like the state environmental agencies. Because all agencies ultimately become sock puppets for their industries that they're supposed to regulate. And with the public health agencies, there is a, it may suffer agency capture on the steroids because of these unprecedented unmatched financial entanglements that they have with the pharmaceutical industry. FDA gets 45% of its budget from pharmaceutical companies.

CDC spends $4.9 billion of its $12 billion annual budget, buying vaccines and then distributing it so it really is a giant vaccine company and the mercantile aspects of that have subsumed the regulatory responsibilities. NIH, which is Tony Fauci's agency, owns thousands of patents from pharmaceuticals that they help develop. And individuals within those agencies are collecting up to $150,000 a year in royalties from multiple patents, each one for life. So these are not public health agencies anymore. They are subsidiaries of the pharmaceutical company and they do not, Tony Fauci does not do public health. He does pharmaceutical development and pharmaceutical promotion. And what I'm saying

right now to you is going to sound like exaggeration or hyperbole to many, many Americans who hear that. But as you know, from having lived in the space for some time, but also having read that book, this is not speculation by me. It's not exaggeration. These people have nothing to do with public health. They are the opposite of public health regulators. They are promoting pharmaceutical products and they are increasing their power, their wealth by doing some. You know, I had an honor very early on in my journey with this vaccine discussion when you gave me a call and asked me to be a part of the commission you're putting together because of the meeting we're going to have at the National Institute of Health. It was set up by Donald Trump. Reed Cordish was the one attending there. And we put together a PowerPoint that you delivered masterfully in front of Francis Collins, head of the NIH, Anthony Fauci, and then other luminaries of, our virology and autoimmune disease departments, as you would.

And when I left that meeting, I know that we were all sort of saying to each other, as we had laid out all of our problems with the vaccine and the safety trials and things like that, all of the childhood vaccines. And I remember saying to each other, if we had any doubt about the position we had, after leaving that meeting, we all just felt like this is real. We really have a problem here. These people are blind. And when I got back home, I said to my wife, because it was the first time, I really didn't know who Anthony Fauci was, but I said to my wife, you know, all these people that I was sitting across from, I felt like they really believed that they were doing what was right for the public, that they somehow just didn't ask themselves the right, you know, questions that would like put any sort of pressure on their value system, or maybe we haven't done the proper safety studies, or as you so eloquently put out, why aren't you doing a vaccinated versus unvaccinated study with your own databases?

But I said to my wife, there was one guy in that meeting that wasn't like the rest. I truly believe that I was sitting across from someone that was evil. His intentions, he seemed to, unlike everyone else, really know what was going on, really being manipulated the conversation. And I said it's this guy named Anthony Fauci. He wasn't to me as big a deal as he is now. And I was a little bit too young to be paying attention to the AIDS crisis, which you cover so well in this book.

But my question to you is you lay this out. And I was saying right before we got on here that with this book, I would recommend people buy sheetrock and some putty because you're going to put holes in your wall from the frustration you feel that a man like this has been manipulating science the way he is. Is Tony Fauci evil? Well, you know, I really try to avoid speculating about what's going on in his head or why he does things that he's supposed to do. I try to be really disciplined about the article writing the book and just kind of record the facts. But if you look at the facts, it's very, very clear that he suffers from some kind of sociopathy. In other words, some lack of empathy, some lack of basic human morality because he makes decision. And there's a German word, something like Schlichtzger, but it's what during the Nazi era,

there were people who worked in the death camps and they, you know, actually killed people. They put people in the ovens in the gas chambers, et cetera. But the worst of the bureaucrats, according to, you know, people like Anna Arendt, were the people who murdered from behind desks, who murdered from a distance, who made these huge vast decisions, which had consequences in taking homicidal consequences, a thousand, sometimes hundreds of thousands of people,

and then they went home and played with their children and kissed the dog, and loved old people and children and all this. and they were they had an aaron called those people death killers and um it's a mystery to me about why they and people end up like that but that's tony he has made decisions which he knows he has to know are lethal to people but he i assume it's an excuse in his head he's developing a medicine that is good for all of humanity at some point and therefore his decisions to sacrifice, you know, that certain people are collateral to image in his experiments are somehow morally justified. And, you know, after that meeting that you and I had with him,

he came up to me after that meeting and said, and he pulled me aside in the corridor and he said, keep doing what you're doing, you know, you're doing a good job and you need to keep pushing us. So what he said to me? But if you remember when we were in that meeting, we said to him because you and I have been saying for two years, because we figured this out. Right. They've never done a, they've never done a placebo control study. Tony Fauci is constantly talking about we need a placebo control study before we do a ibupine and her hydroxical. They've never done a placebo control study on any vaccine.

to approving not one. We said and incidentally they also did do it en masse or lockdowns or social business or anything else. He only needs those for things he doesn't want. At that meeting, he had publicly been saying for years, Alp. H. and Bobby Kennedy are lying. We do placebo control studies on every vaccine. At that meeting, you and I said to him an heir in Siri, we said, you know, can you show us those studies? And he said, we don't have them here. And they were looking through their files. Yeah. You remember that? Yeah, I do. And then they said, well, we don't have them here with us,

but we can send them to you. So we said, okay, we sent them. And there was a guy, the reason they were being kind of civil to us is there was kind of a referee in the, room from the White House from the West Wing that they had said it wasn't part of the health establishment but they wanted to look at what would happen when you know our story met their narrative right and you know to try to figure it out so they they were on their best behavior that day because they were performing for the guy in the white house and we said do you have these studies they said yes we do have them we just don't have them with us so we said they said they said We'll send them to you.

And of course, they didn't send us anything. And then you and I and Aaron C.R. He sued them and said, okay, show them to us. And then after a year and a half of litigation on the courthouse steps, they came out and said, yeah, you're right. We don't have any. We've never done a policy of control study of any vaccines, of any of the 72 vaccines that we have mandated for our children. Yeah, none of the singular vaccines, none of the program of the entire group of vaccines.

You got into this in some detail and you got into some things that I had suspected, but put it together really well. This is something we kind of all know by watching the high wire, but I want to show how you lay it out in this book so clearly. In this one section of the book, you're talking about antibody dependent enhancement, which has been really important to us from the moment this happened in Wuhan. So here's what the book says. In April 26, 2020, interview with Farmer Troll, Dr. Zubin Z, Dogdomania, Merck's top vaccine promoter, Dr. Paul Offutt, Amplified. these concerns. Paul often said binding antibodies can be dangerous and can cause something can cause something called antibody dependent enhancement and we've seen that. I mean, we saw that with the Gates funded dengue vaccine. But with the dengue vaccine and children who had never

been exposed to dengue before, it actually made them worse when they were then exposed to the natural virus, much worse. Vaccinated children who were less than nine years of age who had never been exposed to dengue before were more likely to die if they'd been vaccinated than if they hadn't been vaccinated. You go on to then say that he wasn't the only one. Even Tony Fauci during his March 26, 2020 White House coronavirus briefing, acknowledged the perils of pathogenic priming, which is another word for antibody dependent enhancement. The issue of safety is something I want to make sure the American public understands. Does the vaccine make you worse? And there are diseases in which you vaccinate someone. They get infected with what you're trying to protect them with and you

actually enhance the infection. That's the worst possible thing you could do. Vaccinate. somebody to prevent infection and actually make them worse. And you sort of conclude with a list of issues. And you said, number one, right after that, Dr. Fauci's first approach was to abort the three-year clinical trials at six months and then vaccinate the controls, a preemption that would prevent detection of long-term injuries, including pathogenic, priming, or the antibody-dependent enhancement. Regulators initially intended the Pfizer vaccine trial to continue for three full years. You want to describe this. Now, what you show over and over again in this conversation, is Fauci is well aware of these sort of long-term or mid-term issues.

This one that's got us all the most concern, which is what they saw in all the animal trials, where you give the vaccine to the animal, it looks like they're safe, then you draw antibodies or producing antibodies, but when they challenge the animal with the actual virus, the vaccine doesn't block it or neutralize it. It seems to help the virus into the cells leading to organ failure and death.

Now, what you pointed out, and what we sort of suspected, is then Fauci designs a trial in which he acts like he's going to address all of our concerns, but this would be a concern that would be six months, maybe a year down the road in a human trial. But what does he do? Just a few short weeks after that second vaccine shot, he grabs this tiny little bit of data, says this is all we need to prove that we're 95% effective, and then calls emergency use authorization,

and then erases the control group and gives them all the vaccine. know, he had done the same thing with AZT. And, you know, and so it's like he selects what is going to be his favorite player and then designs a trial to make it look good. And with ACT, he knew that there were long-term effects. In fact, it had failed as an Ebola. I mean, it was having long-term effects when there were other drugs that were available that were safe. And yet, and then we saw it again with Remdesivir. Repdesivir is a failed Ebola drug. Apparently, Ebola was better to handle on its than the toxicity of this Remdesivir drug, but he repurposes it for this relatively benign illness

for about 99% of us. But that whole plan in which he designs a trial and then cuts it short before you would see the long-term results, I thought this was the first time it was being done, and you show this incredible. It's not even a history. It's like a playbook that he uses over and over again. Yeah, that's exactly right.

And with the AZT, you know, he terminated the study after eight weeks, as well as to be a three-year study. He unblinds it, gives AZT to all the controls, declare that it's so successful that it's unethical to keep it from the controls. And then he erases the control group. And what he didn't tell anybody that people found out later is that AZT was so hideously toxic. It's like Remdesivir.

Yeah. The NCI, the National Cancer Institute when they developed it, they threw it on the junkie. They developed it as a cancer chemotherapy drug. And cancer chemotherapy drugs poison every cell in your body and will kill you. It will kill 100% of the people who take them if they take them up for a long period of time. What you hope is you give it to them for two weeks and hope it kills the tumor before it kills. before it kills the person.

And so AZT was so toxic, it killed all the mites in the experiment. They threw it on the junkie. Early on, GlaxoSmithKline found that when they put AZT in a culture with HIV, it killed all the HIV. Not surprising, it killed everything. Tony Fauci developed it as the only age drug,

And he had to do the same thing he did with the vaccines. He had to kill all of the repurpose medications. And he had to keep the people who were getting AZT were dying so fast that he began sneaking them transfusions. So a lot of those people were getting full blood transfusions every day to keep them alive for the eight-week period so he could declare victory. Then he got the permission to use the transfusion. You know, he walked through FDA like he does through a fixed FDA panel that's made up of his paid investigators.

And then he mandated it for everybody not only who has AIDS, people who are deemed by a PCR test to have HIV, many of them would never get sick. And virtually everybody who is on ACT died. Most of them died within a year, almost all of them died within two years. He killed with AZT probably 330,000 people during the 1980s and early 1990s. The other thing he did now, which is part of this playbook that you're talking about, is he suppressed all of the drugs. There were local doctors who were treating AIDS patients in New York and San Francisco and Dallas, etc. They were finding a lot of drugs that worked for the AIDS symptoms.

very, very effectively. Aerosol, Pennadine was one of those. It had tremendous efficacy. But the AIDS patients, most of them were impoverished because they couldn't work, were unable to get it because the insurance companies would not give it to them because it wasn't approved by FDA. They were begging Tony Fauci to get FDA to approve, but he refused. He said, we don't have implicitly controlled trials.

Right. And so that's what the film Dallas Fires Club is about. It's people, Matthew McConaughey and a lot of other people with AIDS, who discovered that AZT was killing everybody who were staking it, and they were going to Mexico, to Canada, to Europe. They got these drugs that actually were smuggling them back in the United States and distributing them to AIDS patients, and Nichelle Wallet, who wrote that film,

initially made Tony Fauci the antagonist in her script. He was the villain in the film. In the end, when they made the film, they took him out of it. He was the guy who was killing all these hate patients by denying them a drug. The local doctors had proven work. My uncle, as I show in the book, Teddy Kennedy, was deeply involved in forcing Tony Fauci finally to approve this off-purpose medication as the exact same thing he did. done with ibidectin and hydroxychloroquine, killing these drugs because they compete with the vaccines that he knows his buddies are going to make money from. You said it exactly right.

He only likes a placebo-based control study when he's going to use it to destroy your ability to use a product. In this case... Well, he didn't use a placebo for remdesivir. No. Remdesivir was, as you point out, remdesivir was a drug that was a drug that was. was developed by Gilead. It was actually, again, created by the National Cancer Institute by NIH. And then given to Gilead, which is Bill Gates, you know, as a huge investment in.

And then Tony Fauci tried it on Zika. He tried it on Ebola. And in December of 2019, remember, this was one month before the pandemic urgency is declared. It was in a trial in Africa with four other drugs where they were treating Ebola patients. Now, Ebola patients, 50% of them die. And the safety monitoring board stepped in and said, you've got to pull the remodensivir out of the trial. I think 30% of them died after they took it for five days. They said it's too dangerous to give to Ebola patients. or 50% of them are going to die.

A month later, Fauci takes that drug and he knows it's too dangerous to give to Ebola patients and he puts it in fake trials for COVID. And he approved that drug, emergency use authorization without having a study published with having no data that showed that it prevented a single death. And he had to go in twice, fraudulent.

changed the study protocols to show that it reduced hospital stays by three days. It didn't, he could not show that it prevented death. The WHO and the Chinese then published studies almost simultaneously saying not only does not prevent deaths. And these were actually very powerful studies, really good studies with real placebos. They said not only does it not prevent death, it does not reduce hospital stays. Nevertheless, Tony Fauci got this drug approved. The reason he got it approved is because you can only give Remdesibir with intravenous, which means it can only be used on hospital patients,

which means it would not compete with the vaccines. Right. So, under federal law, he had to kill Ivermectin and hydroxychloricloric. Because under the federal law, you cannot give emergency use authorization to a vaccine. If there is an approved drug, approved for any purpose, that is demonstrated to be effective against the target disease. So if anybody had shown that Ivermectinine hydroxychloroquine or if, let's say, if Fauci had to acknowledge that Ipermechloricloric. Right, because clearly we have, you know, hundreds, if not thousands of studies at this point around the work. showing exactly that, but he's not giving it the check of approval.

Right. There's about 285 studies, most of them be reviewed. That show Ivermec and hydroxy chloroquine collectively reduce hospital stays by 80% and reduced deaths by 80%. 80% of the people who died from COVID in this country did not need to die. And that's why, you know, we used repentsivir in this country and we had a monopoly on it for the first year because he convinced Trump to buy 100% of the supplies. Well, that's one of the reasons we have the highest deaths. Right.

Because death from that remdesivir looks like death from COVID. It's kidney failure, it's pulmonary endema. All the things that COVID does to kill you, Remdesivir does to kill you. So nobody knew, none of the doctors knew, whether their patients were dying. And this is the same thing that happened with ACT. With the end of the year,

the United States has 4.2% of the world's population, and it has 20% of the world's COVID deaths. We have the highest body count of any country in the world. The Chinese who use early treatment, including chloroquine, which is the cousin hydroxychloroquine, eliminate the pandemic in two months. Pandemic was gone from China by April. They had they use all of the things that are doctors like McCullough, and Corey were telling the government these things were antibiotics, any inflammatory, any coagulants, steroids, monocloidal antibodies, all of the antidectrine hydrochloroquine if you use those things

is a manageable disease. It's like a seasonal flu. He had to block all those things in order to make way for his vaccines. And that's what he did. And that's why the Chinese had a, population death rate, in other words, three people die from COVID per million population. Our population death rate was 2,200 per million. We have the worst body counts on Earth. I don't know how 205, he has a job today. He has a worst record of failure of any health minister on the globe. And it was all about pushing his drugs from death of Earth and vaccines. Which makes me want to challenge sort of your original statement when I brought it up, and I know you're trying to be nice and you're trying to, you know, be objective. But you said you believe Fauci, you know, that he's got some sort of sociopathic tendencies, but that he believes he's, you know, helping people.

I actually disagree with that. And reading your book and how well you laid it out, you know, I believe that, I believe that probably is true about Paul Opette. I believe that's true about Stanley Plotkin. I think Stanley Plotkin, who's the godfather's vaccine world, you know, I think he genuinely knows I'm killing. some children. He has said we're at war with nature and there's casualties to that war, but he's trying to get to a place where one day, I think Stanley Plotkin believes we'll be able to vaccinate for every illness in the world. We'll have beat God, will have beat nature, and therefore we'll never be able to die again or some crazy thought like that. But it's well

intention. Fauci is much different. Fauci is taking products. He knows work. He sees the evidence like hydroxychloroquine, like ivermectin, in the case where AZT was out there, many of the drugs that they were using that they were having success with, and he does the same playbook. I will not even recommend those till I see a double-blind placebo study. He knows they're off patent, so they can't make any, you know, there's not enough money for the pharmaceutical industry to do a $100 million double-blind placebo study or, you know, whatever, that would cost huge numbers if they're going to do it right. And so he knows he basically buries those treatments that would cost you pennies on the dollar,

and then he supports a product like remdesivir that he knows cause organ failure. With AZT, he cut the trial short because he knew it killed people, as you said. He's giving transfusions to keep them alive and not giving transfusions to the control group, so they look like they were dying. This is a manipulative, scary, scary human being that, you know, when I read the book, I thought, you know, when he said, attacks on me, quite frankly, are attacks on science. And we all laughs at what an egomaniac. It's actually true.

I now recognize, after reading this book, that Tony Fauci, is the one that erased the scientific method. He took away all the double-blind studies. He's the one using billions of dollars to hand to the universities. If they make him happy, then he'll give them another drug to work on. But if they don't make him happy, he pulls the funding. Those professors get fired. Those scientists get fired because they were challenging the system.

He is literally controlling the education system. He's controlling what drugs come through the pipeline. If you don't make uncle, you know, if you don't make the godfather happy, then you don't get your next drug sold. I mean, he is moving billions of dollars to erase scientific competition and any questioning of the orthodoxy. It's so terrifying. But beyond that, I just want to move on to one other point because I know you've got to run. You know, we all saw these.

I'm just trying to say, you have convinced me, hell. Okay. One thing is right, he has destroyed science and he has made science religion. Yes. And you know, it's all, there's no citation. He never cites a study. It's all about appeals to authority. Science is what I say it is.

And he has all these acolytes around him who are depending on his funding. Luke genuflected that kind of that dog, that theology. And, you know, one of them, just a good example, Peter Hottes, who is this venomous little, you know, Tote for Tony Fauci. And he's actually lobbying. to make a felony a federal crime imprisoned by more than a year to criticize Tony Fauci. And, you know, Tony Fauci is encouraging this kind of adulation and adoration by the public. And it's really bizarre that he gets away with it.

You know, he said last week, once again, people who question me are questioning science. They're anti-science. It's like Louis XIV. He said, just sweetest thought, I am the state, you know. And he's saying, I am science. Yes, and I think he is responsible now for at least hundreds of thousands of deaths during this pandemic. I think his effect on the world, you could probably argue millions now they're being denied working probable treatments that show success around the world. AZT throw on another, you know, half a million or so people that died that didn't need to because they were denied life-saving products while he pushed a deadly product.

on people. But we all saw these images recently when it looked like he was really getting hot water right at the moment this gain of function conversation came up. Then all of a sudden these images came out where he was torturing Beagles. And somehow it's almost like, you know, I think he threw that out there like let me deal with Beagle torture over, you know, going to jail for crimes against humanity or being linked in some way to the release of a virus that I might have had something to do with. But this part of your book, I heard a lot of talk back then. Well, he did it to children, too, but we couldn't really find those sources. You actually dug that up.

I want to get in this part of the book because I think it's critical to show how sick this world really is. Let me have these slides. Between 1985 and 2005, NIAD and its pharma partners conscripted at least 532 infants and children from foster care in New York City as human subjects of clinical trials testing NIAD's experimental age drugs and vaccines. ICC in the Medical Research Center that conducted the trials received substantial payments. for hosting the experiments from both the National Institute of Health and the manufacturer of the drugs, among them all the list of everybody that's ever been in court for killing people with dangerous products. The Vera Institute, relying mostly on city ACS documents, confirmed 80 deaths and that many other children suffered serious harm.

The child welfare files contained information in indicting that some children experience serious toxicities or side effects from trial medications such as reduced liver function or severe anemia. These toxicities were consistent with the toxicities. described in published articles about the trials. Fauci poo-pooed all those deaths, recalls Vera Shirab. The very best thing you could say about Dr. Fauci is that he failed to get involved when problems emerged on his management watch. You go on the list out of 532 children participating clinical trials

or observational studies died while 80 of the 532 died. 25 of the children died while enrolled in a medication trial. 64 children participated in 30 medication trials that were not reviewed by a special medical advisory. He was doing this without any purview or vision from medical authorities for ethics, and 21 children participated in trials that the panel had reviewed but had not recommended. And then in a different section of the book, you should have referenced this again, and there was this paragraph just ripped me apart.

If the children refuse the drugs, they're held down and forced bed. If the children continue to resist, they're taking to Columbia Presbyterian Hospital, where a surgeon puts a plastic tube through their abdominal wall into their stomachs. From then on, the drugs are injected directly into their intestines. He did this to Latino children, mostly African-American children, those who had no parents, their parents were drug addicts, were put in foster care, and he used these innocent children as guinea pigs and essentially murdered them in trials with products that already had terrible side effects that knew about it.

I mean, it's so incredible. Here it was, in 2003, two children ages six and 12 at debilitating strokes. Do the drug toxicities? The six-year-old went blind. They both died shortly after. Another 14-year-old died recently. I mean, just indiscriminately, essentially, killing children that were in poorer, you know, areas or in foster care. How is this guy still here?

How have so many politicians look the other way on this evidence that's been presented to them? Yeah. And, you know, one of the words things about those experiments. is that it turns out many of those kids, if not most of them, did not even have HIV. So there's not even a pretense that there was some hidden benefit for these children and getting paid for these drugs. These kids were chosen because they didn't have parents to protect them. And the law says you can't do that.

The law says if they don't have parents, the state has to appoint a guardian. And the guardian cannot allow experimentation on those kids unless there's a clear benefit from the medication to the children. And that's the only way that you can legally do it. So Tony Fauci made sure and none of those kids had guardians, which is illegal. And then he hid what he was doing from the boards. He took foster homes in six states and he turned over the pharmaceutical industry. He made sure that the people who were running those foster homes were not. did not even have medical training.

Most of them were immigrants who came from the Dominican Republic. They knew nothing about medicine or responsibilities, and they were sick and they realized slowly what they were involved in doing to these children, that they were torturing these children. And, you know, there's videos of these children, an old BBC documentary that will make you cry. You, I promise you, you cannot look at these without weeping. You know, one of these kids, a 12-year-old who's trying to.

trying to protect the eight years old and he has a tube in his stomach. And he's telling them, you know, I tried to fight them and this is what they do if you fight them. You can't fight them. You need to just take the drugs and the kids didn't want to take them because the drugs were making them horribly sick. And Celia Tharber was this amazing researcher who worked on this chapter for me and did a lot of the original research on it. She actually went up to Hawthorne, New York, to the Gates of Heaven Cemetery. cemetery she found the cemetery where Fauci was disposing of the corpses of these children who died in his illegal experiments she found an open pit it was actually covered by a

by an astroturf carpet she opened the atchurf carpet and she saw hundreds and hundreds of tiny little coffins stacked haphazardly upon each other because these are children who have no parents and nobody was there to protect them. And Tony Fauci treated them as collateral damage. And, you know, his objective was to enlarge the markets for these pharmaceutical companies who he had partnered with by allowing HIV, these toxic, toxic chemotherapy drugs to be given to children. And then the next experiments, which are in the next chapter, which are equally horrendous, is his experience. experiments on Africans to try to open markets for the maternal, to end maternal transmission of AIDS.

So he was giving the most toxic drugs known to humanity to pregnant women, many of them have their babies, many of them who did not have HIV, to see what the tolerance levels were. In other words, not to try to help them. to see how much they could take before their babies were to board or before they would die. Oh, my God. He is a monster. So to finish this up, really, and I know you've got to run,

I was amazed at how you sort of show this cycle happening over and over again. This, you know, the way that he chooses the products, he denies the products would help people. There's a moment in the AIDS story where he is clearly, everyone's turned on him. even the politicians that, I don't know if they're bought out or whatever, been on his side, they're turning on him, the entire gay community. And it looks like his days are numbered. And he does this about face.

I don't want to give it away, but he really managed to sort of in his slippery way, bring everybody together in a kumbaya moment and make them think that he's going to be their savior. And he slips out and you think, how is that possible? It was so clear the death and destruction he had caused the uselessness of his, department and how dangerous he was. We find ourselves in that moment again where it seems obvious to a growing multitude of people in this country and around the world that not only does he have the highest death rate in the greatest hospital system that's ever existed and how you can explain that. I have no idea. But we see the destruction of our use of treatments that could work.

Instead, remdesivir that so many people are calling us and saying, my brother, my father, my mother was fine until they put her on the remdesivir and now she's dead. Is he going to get away with this? I mean, I know you've been wanting to go after him. I feel like, you know, you want a lawsuit. This book is, I mean, I don't know if this is just your lawsuit at the beginning of it. Is he going to get away with this because he didn't have you on his ass then and he didn't have me on his ass? Are we going to get this guy, Bobby? I sure hope so. I can tell you, we are doing, I know you are doing this and I can. and CHD is using that book as a template for litigation.

And we're meeting with Attorney Generals. We have attorneys who are preparing suits. And, you know, at some point, we are going to bring Tony Fauci to justice. That's fantastic. Bobby, it's a tour de force. The real Anthony Fauci. I cannot say enough about this book. I wouldn't be telling you to get this if I didn't mean it.

Get yourself a copy. Get everyone a copy for Christmas. Get your governor a copy. Walk in your senator's office and say, explain this and then I will reelect you. If you do not read this or understand what's happening in our health agencies, then you will never be elected by me again. We have got to get this out to everyone we know. This is a game changer, Bobby.

It is so powerful, so impactful. Every chapter ends with nearly three pages of citations, which I love, because now I can prove, I can go in and find the evidence that's here. The real Anthony Fauci, Robert Kennedy, Jr., you are a hero. I am so honored to know you. The times we've gotten to work together have been highlights of my life, and I look forward to the moment where we get this guy and put him behind bars, because that's where he deserved to be.

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