The Highwire with Del Bigtree - SINS OF SCIENCE

Episode Date: November 12, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:15 Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are out there in the world, it's time for us all to step out onto the high wire. It's amazing. Sometimes we've got so many last minute things, graphics coming in, even guest breaking stories. So today we're getting off to a little bit of late start. Sorry for all of you. They've been hanging there, white knuckling, waiting for the moment for it to begin. But here we go. You know, we have reported a lot from around the world. This is an international news show trying to bring you the truth. and since we are all involved in this COVID pandemic, the insanity around the vaccines,
Starting point is 00:00:49 it only seems fit to cover some of the hot spots around the world. Today, I want to focus somewhere where we've talked a lot about, and that's New Zealand. If you remember New Zealand, you know, it's really one of the few islands that exist in this experiment to see if we can hide from a virus. They use incredibly draconian measures to make sure that nobody ever flew onto that island to bring the virus, thinking that somehow they could maintain. and achieve what's known as zero COVID. They were even stated the leader or the prime minister, Jacinda Arden, Arden.
Starting point is 00:01:23 She made the comment, said, we're going to maintain zero COVID. They've given up on that policy because it's a failed policy. It's impossible to hide from a virus. As you well know, if you've been watching the high wire more than a few minutes. But the truth is that these draconian measures have not gone away. It doesn't matter despite the failures of those measures, despite the failures of social distancing and masking and lockdowns and even internment when you fly into the airport they're being held over time.
Starting point is 00:01:52 None of that seems to have worked yet still. They are steadfast in their attempts to try and control everybody in New Zealand. And as it turns out, larger and larger crowds have had enough. This is what it looks like at some of the marches in New Zealand right now. When we stand together, we cannot be stopped. Enough is enough. Gotta be bullied. We are here today to stand as a people to tell the government that your time is up.
Starting point is 00:02:49 We are the people of New Zealand demand that you revoke all workplace vaccination mandates. Do you want to leave in dangerous freedom or peaceful slavery? I mean, economy is slavery. I would rather look dangerously. I mean, absolutely amazing numbers there. When you think of the size of New Zealand, I have to imagine pound per pound or per capita, they have more resistance in that country than anywhere else in the world. At the center of this, obviously, is the leader, Jacinda Ardern,
Starting point is 00:03:48 who has really made the press, partly because I think of her attitude towards this, a somewhat snarky attitude that is not going over well. But this is probably why the people are marching in the streets. I've got a number of questions about people refuse, you know, what do we do if someone refuses to be tested? Well, they can't now. If someone refuses in our facilities to be tested, they have to keep staying.
Starting point is 00:04:15 So they won't be able to leave after 14 days. They have to stay on for another 14 days. So it's a pretty good incentive. You either get your test. stun and make sure you're cleared or we will keep you in a facility longer so I think most people will look at that and say I'll take the I'll take the tea this is an issue of this is an issue sir I'm going to ask I'm going to answer the questions of the accredited media sir I will shut down the press conference if you do not cease sorry to our accredited members of
Starting point is 00:04:52 the gallery here. We might move to an inside venue. Unfortunately, we've got someone who's disrupting your press conference today. So we might reconvene. Thank you. So you basically said this is going to be like almost like you probably don't see it like this. The two different classes of people if you're vaccinated or if you're unvaccinated, you have all these rights. If you are vaccinated. That is what it is. Yep. Yep. And actually we have managed very high vaccination rates generally without the use of certificates. But actually what it's become clear to me is that they're not just a tool to drive up vaccines. They're a tool for confidence. People who have been vaccinated will want to know that they're around other vaccinated people.
Starting point is 00:05:32 They want to know that they're in a safe environment. I love that when she stops the press conferences, moves it out because there was a couple of facts getting in the way like someone yelling. Well, how about Israel, the numbers in Israel, the failure of this vaccine in the UK. That's it. We can't have any real questions. Let's bring the media that's controlled by pharma back in. another room, let's do this somewhere else. Well, that is the type of attitude. It's sort of the disdain she seems to have for her own people in making this health choice for themselves.
Starting point is 00:06:00 But New Zealand has a unique tool that I haven't seen anywhere else. You know, there's a lot, been to a lot of marches here in America. We've been watching videos of marches all over the world, but they have a distinctive tool, a dance, the hawk a dance. And I think it may be something we may all want to adopt because it seems to be incredible. effective. Take a look at this. People power is what's needed now. I don't know about you, but people were dancing like that outside of my capital. I might get away from my snarky tune and stop having so much disdain towards my people. There's something incredibly powerful about what we just saw and frankly I think it's working. Here's just the most recent video by Jacin. Did you feel a tone shift?
Starting point is 00:07:26 surprised the level of hostility towards you and the vaccine rollout? Oh no nor am I taking that personally. Nor am I surprised you know we are at a stage in the vaccine rollout where we are trying to reach into communities that may hold firm views but we need to have those conversations and just talking to some of our health practitioners their goal is to talk to everyone wherever they can to try and have those conversations around why it is so important that people are vaccinated. Both yourself and Minister HIPkins said that the vaccinations would never be forced on anyone
Starting point is 00:08:02 and yet the mandates have come. So that was the question over whether or not we would compel all New Zealanders to be vaccinated and we've firmly taken that view, we will not and we have not. We've also guarded against requiring vaccines in areas where we need to ensure that people are always, no matter what, able to access health services, food, government support. We've been very clear. We will not require and will never require vaccine certificates to access food, to access government benefits, to access services that people need to live.
Starting point is 00:08:35 To me, that's a huge tone shift. I mean, almost like her tail is between her legs. And behind that, part of the power of what's happening there, of course, is this Maori dance, the haka. And so maybe to get a better insight of the people behind this dance, behind these marches, I want to bring in one of the rally spokesmen. And I'm talking to Brian Tamaki and he joins me now. Brian, first of all, thank you for taking the time to join us today.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Very early for you, by the way. Yeah. Thanks, Dale. It's good morning from here. I know it's your afternoon, but thank you for having me on the show. And I watched some of the picks there that you had just recently. And we've got quite a bully girl prime minister here who wants to repress this nation and make it something that we don't want.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Yeah. Now, you know, when we see this sort of dance, almost this tribal feeling, how, how, you know, I haven't been to New Zealand yet. I mean, there are images that I have in my head, but how much a part of the culture is this sort of Maori tradition and, you know, these people in New Zealand? Well, I'm part Māori myself, my dad's Māori and my mom's European. So we have brought up as indigenous people of the country. If somebody hasn't heard of it out there, Māori, we're the original people of the land, very much like the Red Indians in America. And the Hakka is the war dance.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And often when we were fighting early in the history of our country with the British oppression, the colonisation, Māori would always do this war dance called the Hakka, preparing them, bringing fear into the enemy's heart, and also bringing strength and courage up into the warriors themselves. So it's our national, I guess, pride and its expression, particularly to our rugby players, the All Blacks and many other sports pictures. They always do the Haka. But that's, yeah, it's a very powerful, powerful expression of a spirit and soul and heart.
Starting point is 00:10:41 And when we talk about the spirit and the soul and the heart, do you feel like you have sort of a strong support? against forcing these vaccinations and these sort of draconian lockdown measures in new zealand i mean what is what is the you know what is the temperature of new zealand now and has it shifted is it is it moving your direction or away in your mind yeah well i'm pretty happy about that question down because just in the last six days i was working out this would be the fifth protest the protesters have had And I've seen a shift now in the media of New Zealand. They realise that in the last six days and before the or after the Wellington protest at Parliament, as with our government work from, there was a sudden change in her tone,
Starting point is 00:11:34 the way that she had been quite hard line, that there'd be two classes of people in this country, the vaccine, the unvaccinated. And the unvaccinated would be almost like second-class citizens. No Christmas, no summer holidays. We would be exempt from many restaurants and hospitals. And it still goes on. So she was turning her own people inly on themselves. But now it shifted just in the last six days down.
Starting point is 00:12:04 The poll, the first time for, well, she was globally one of the persons of the year recently. But now she's losing her shock. and people are waking up to this massive and unlawful and illegal control. The state has exerted on its people, the freedoms are taken away. She's gone down on the polls for the first time substantially. Well, another poll was just done before I come on here today, where she's dropped again in the Labour government. And 70% of the nation now has said that they have no confidence in this government.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Sorry for the little pet, but I smell victory coming. I smell change and I think we're onto something. So I wish I could say more, but I have some restrictions on me from the police. Well, I was going to say that. I mean, we know that you have been arrested for the work that you've done to try in, you know, get this word out there. I won't get into the details of that because I know that because of that you have to be careful about what you say. But why did you get involved in this? Your
Starting point is 00:13:14 personal, what is your personal story that made you, you know, sort of a leader here, putting together you know, these past events that are seeing this growing audience that now seems to be affecting the, as you said, the spiritual energy
Starting point is 00:13:29 of your nation. What's driving you? What's behind your courage and standing in the face of potential arrests and all of that? Well, for the, I'm 63 years old so 43 years of that coming up now I've been a very committed Christian I was converted quite dramatically for me it had to be from the lifestyle I was living before that I had actually had a body experience with
Starting point is 00:13:56 Jesus Christ and that was very indelible change my whole family I'm a great grandfather ten grandchildren and two little great-grandchildren with our three adult children that are all married So these five generations of us alive today and we're very devout in our faith. So in the while back after my faith had an indelible mark on it, I started a movement of churches called Destin to Churches, New Zealand, and it's in Australia as well. And so we're quite active in the Australian protest as well because my son is a leader of churches and groups over there on the Gold Coast.
Starting point is 00:14:36 So we communicate quite a bit between the two countries and what's happening. So we were heavily involved in the Man Up program. Well, I founded that as well some years ago. It was helping to rehabilitate men who have been in prison gangs, who have been violent, mostly Māori, indigenous men, the highest rates of imprisonment incarceration in the world. Very strong race, very warrior-like people, but the colonisation, a lot of other things had a hand in it very much poverty,
Starting point is 00:15:10 stricken, but we've managed to lift these souls, give them hope. I've fed them a great vision. I believe that God has given us to be a different church than your normal structured church. We're having trouble churches actually joining us here down. In New Zealand, the churches are very compliant. So I decided at a point in time that I should do something, but never really sort of got around until I had a very clear unction from God. he says, well, this is what I've got you for. You need to stand up for the people. And so I put my whole movement on the line, the churches across the nation, and I asked my
Starting point is 00:15:49 men and their families, I said, look, the 38 years we've been together, I'm going to now put it all on the line for the freedoms and the rights of every New Zealand in this country. We may lose everything, but we may also help our people come out of the suppression and front up to this government. and I believe we've made the right choice and our best days are still ahead. So there's a groundswell that now I think is going to turn it and I believe we're going to see people get back to the country
Starting point is 00:16:19 we always believed we should have had. That New Zealand that was free, what our ancestors died in the Second World War for and foreign soil. I believe we're going to get that country back again and have the freedoms and the rights and a better future for our children. Well, I mean, I think your statement, you know, you may not win this, but that's not really up to you, but it really comes down to if you're not going to risk. You're going to win it?
Starting point is 00:16:45 I'm going to win it. All right. And by the way, without risk, there is no reward. And so obviously you're putting it all in the line. It's such a powerful story. I think so perfectly exemplified by the hawk of dance, I think I'm going to start practicing it myself. Just that idea, though, of the power, you know, in us, our spiritual power. And then along with our constitutional powers, our rights as human beings and our rights that are given to us by God, it doesn't matter what country we're in, what Constitution tries to surround those rights.
Starting point is 00:17:18 We know where they come from. And so it's just an honor to meet you. I want to just let you know that everyone in this audience I know is praying for your safety as you continue to move fearlessly forward and leading your name. It's inspiring and I just want to thank you for your courage and keep up the good work, all right. Thank you, Dale. And you'll hear more from us. I believe it'll be a prototype for all the world to see that we can turn this around. We can win. Don't give up. Keep your courage and keep lifting the hopes of those that are standing, even losing their jobs because I don't take the vaccination. We'll see a whole new creation of a new nation, a new global world influence that's coming from the right perspective, not from where these people who want to take away our freedom and our rights to set up a government that's not right. Well, you can consider us brothers on that statement and that ideal, I believe, the very same thing. I'll see you there, okay?
Starting point is 00:18:25 Yeah, we will. All right. Take care, brother. Bye. Well, I mean, we have just amazing all around the world. We are joined together. If there's, you know, when we think about all the discussions about world peace that have happened before, what would it take for us all to come together? Is this that thing? We're looking at it in a negative way?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Is it possible that this is the thing that transcends all races, religions, and creeds that brings us together to recognize that we must stand together? I certainly think so. And I think that's the energy that we're starting to see in this shift that's happening around the world of God. We've got a huge show coming up today. I got Sam Sorboe coming up in a little while to talk about those of you that don't know what to do with your children. They want to come at you with the vaccines. She's got the show schools out discussing exactly that, how to get your kids out of school and give them a real education. She's joining me coming up.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And I'm going to sit down with Dana Brousard, who has an incredible story of a vaccine injury. She didn't just accept it. She took it to court and she actually won. We're going to ask her how that all happened. But first, it's time for the Jackson Report. I want to see you do the HACA, man. I think we'd have to put a couple pounds on, though, right? We'd have to be real angry and pull up that spiritual power.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Oh, my God. It's just watching that on standby. It was like getting chills and shivers. Yeah, powerful stuff. Powerful stuff. Well, this week, CNN took its investigative, hard-hitting reporting to the street. What street you ask? Sesame Street.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Look. All right. Hi, everyone. Hello there. So good to see all of you. I've been staying healthy, Dr. Sanjay. Look. Oh, just Rosita. This is for my COVID vaccine.
Starting point is 00:20:22 My mommy and my puppy took me to get it this morning. Oh, Rosita, that's great. Getting the COVID vaccine is a great way to stay healthy. See, my mommy and my poppy said that it will help keep me, my friends, my neighbors, my abuela, all healthy. Your parents are absolutely. Absolutely right. You know, COVID vaccines are now available for children five years and older. And the more people who get them, the better we're going to be able to help stop the spread of COVID and keep everyone healthy.
Starting point is 00:20:56 See? And in three weeks later, I have to go back to the doctors and get my second shot. And kitty, oh, let me show you, this is Gatito will be coming with me to take that shot too. Good for you, Rosita, and Gadito. I'm a little scared to get the shot because I don't like needles. Will it hurt? Oh, it's okay to be scared and to have some of those big feelings. Big Bird, can I tell you something? I'm a grown-up and I don't really like needles either.
Starting point is 00:21:29 In fact, even as an adult, I don't like to look when the doctor puts that shot in my arm. And I'm the same way, too, Big Bird. But you're a doctor. You know what I like to do? I like to bring something from home that might make me feel safe, like a favorite toy maybe. I also take three big brets and then think about all the fun things I can do after I get the vaccine. Oh my God. Geez, unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:22:01 That is so hard to take. It's a creepy, creepy world out there, Del. And look at it. Are you okay over there? going to be all right. All right. You know, even looking at the advertisement here, the ABCs of COVID vaccines, this is from CNN. This is a town hall for kids and parents. Parents don't let your kids watch CNN without you without supervision. Well, Laura Ingram caught up with Big Bird and did a follow-up interview. Take a look what that look like. Okay. Sadly, CNN did not show what happened to Big Bird
Starting point is 00:22:33 later in the day. It's the only response that's deserved. It really is. It really is. Oh, Sanjay. So it's not only Laura Ingraham that's kind of eaten this thing alive. The memes out there annihilated this segment CNN tried to pull off, just aimed right at the kids. So here's one of the memes.
Starting point is 00:22:59 This is Big Bird going to the doctor. Mio Car What? We have another meme here. This is Bert and Ernie. Sanjay Gupta said that your neurological disorder just means it's working, Bert. And then we're going to go through the alphabet here. M is for myocarditis. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And now we're going to have a couple more videos here. So let's go back to Sanjay Gupta. This is him talking about stopping the spread. Take a listen. Yeah. And the more people who get them, the better we're going to be able to help stop the spread of COVID. Stop the spread of COVID. Stop the spread of COVID.
Starting point is 00:23:36 I mean, it's outrageous. It is bordering on criminal now. that are taking place. Sanjay Gupta knows he's lying or his IQ is far lower and he's lied about that. He's either lying about his IQ or he's lying about this because we know for a fact it does not stop the spread of COVID. It cannot stop the spread of COVID. And if it's lost on anybody, we've covered this a million times to go watch our other shows. But very quickly, the very last time this was ever brought up at the ASIP meeting, the moment where they're trying to decide, are we going to go ahead and promote this or recommend this to children 5 to 11?
Starting point is 00:24:13 The question was asked, how many kids will have to get this to reach herd immunity? Just to remind everybody, this is what we now know for a fact. Everybody knows it, apparently except Sanjay Gupta. Take a look at this. When we look for herd or community immunity, when we speak of a number, 80%, 75, 90, whatever, we're looking at the total population of an area like the country. believe. So that were we to get this five to 11 year old age group vaccinated, we would be getting closer to whatever the percent is that we need for herd immunity in the United States.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Is that a proper extrapolation of? Hi, Dr. Jones. Well, we would discourage a strict goal of a threshold where we think if we reach that that community transmission will then cease that there it's it's going to be very complicated with waning immunity and you have protection against infection versus protection against severe disease and I think thinking that we will be able to achieve some kind of threshold where there'll be no more transmission of infections may not be possible I think that is a very fair statement I can't believe they giggle. Every time I hear them giggle after he just said, it really won't have any effect on the transmission, even though that's exactly what Sanjay Gupta is trying to get across, that you are going to create protection. You're going to protect others. Stop transmission. It does not do that, folks, for the 1,527 time. All right, let's move on, Jeffrey. Start to interrupt.
Starting point is 00:26:02 All right. No, not at all. This is important data points. Well, why is CNN stooping down to target directly the children of America with this? I mean, it's really propaganda. Well, this headline says a lot here. It's because the parents aren't buying it. Around 70% of U.S. parents hesitant to get their child vaccinated against COVID are concerned about side effects and 25% say their kid does not need the jab survey finds. That's a U.S. Census Bureau survey. They had 57,000 responses. So not just a little drop in the bucket there. But really, here comes the PR machine on the back of CNN. We're looking at targeting directly kids here. So check out this headline about vaccine hesitant kids. He was adamant. He didn't. didn't want the vaccine. The ProVax parents with vaccine hesitant kids. Really, I mean, look at this. In the continuum of inaccurate rhetoric here, vaccine hesitant comes before anti-vax. So we're seeing the vaccine hesitant being aimed at kids now. It's going to be really interesting to see if these mainstream media outlets start calling kids anti-vax because they won't take the shot. I mean, really, if it goes that far, we got to really wonder what we're doing with our lives here.
Starting point is 00:27:09 So we have St. Jude doctor. He even made a coloring book. to check this out. This coloring book developed by doctors helps explain the pandemic and vaccines to kids. So let's take a look at some of the pages here. This is the coloring book, St. Jude's coloring book. It says here, some people might have a sore arm or may not feel well after getting a vaccine, but any side effects should go away in a couple of days. Here's another page. If more people get the COVID vaccine, everyone in capital letters is protected. It's a really basic propaganda there. I actually think he's plagiarizing that. I believe that was the entire actual physical trial that was handed from Pfizer to FDA to get the EUA emergency use authorization.
Starting point is 00:27:48 That's the information our, you know, heads of health departments have seen themselves. And it's very convincing. Right. And it's really, I mean, if you look at it, it's really no much different than what actual adults are getting for their information. Soar arm, headache, it'll go away in a day or two. Right. I mean, you can't blame them. The kids are getting the same information.
Starting point is 00:28:06 But, you know, we talked about Sanjay Gupta, and he was in the news a couple of weeks ago. And we covered someone that really grabbed the news cycle. Rogan and he was talking about Ivermectin. He took Ivermectin because he had COVID. We have another person grabbing the news cycle, quarterback Aaron Rogers, Green Bay Packers quarterback, and he said some interesting things about his vaccination status, about his treatment. But check out the headlines he's making. All right. Let's take a look. This morning, NFL superstar Aaron Rogers sideline.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Sources telling ESPN the reigning NFL MVP has tested positive for COVID. And now questions are swirling about his vaccination status. The Packers quarterback has been signlight in quarantine after testing positive for COVID amid confusion over his vaccination status. Packers quarterback Aaron Rogers fined nearly $15,000 for attending a party unmasked. And his team fined 300,000 for COVID protocol violations. Aaron Rogers didn't just lie. And you're not holding back. You say that he is hurting all athletes with his vaccine answers.
Starting point is 00:29:10 We've got players that pretty much. think only about themselves and I'm extremely disappointed in the actions of Aaron Rogers. Wow. I mean, that's quite a firestorm. He may, I mean, he may be the biggest, I think, celebrity yet to find himself in this position. Right. And the full weight of the media is coming down upon him for really just speaking his truth about what he experienced and what he's doing. So here's some of the headlines just grabbing it past those clips. Opinion Aaron Rogers has COVID. He lied about being vaccinated and being a team player. It goes even further here in Vice.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Aaron Rogers goes full anti-vax, says he's taking ivermectin. He's also taking monoclonal antibodies as well, he said. This is New York Times. Scientists fight a new source of vaccine information, Aaron Rogers. Now, amidst of these headlines, Rogers stepped up and basically told his story in a podcast to really give his side of the story beyond the headlines. This is what he had to say. Take a look.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I realize I'm in the crosshairs of the woke mob right now. So before my final nail gets put in my cancel culture casket, I think I'd like to set the record straight on so many of the blatant lies that are out there about myself right now. I am somebody who's a critical thinker. You guys know me. I marched to the beat of my own drum. I believe strongly in bodily autonomy and the ability to make choices for your body, not to have to acquiesce to some woke culture or crazed.
Starting point is 00:30:42 you know, group of individuals who say you have to do something. Health is not a one-size-fits-all for everybody. I looked into and talked again to a lot of medical individuals and professionals and found that there was an immunization protocol that I could go to to best protect myself and my teammates and it was a long-term protocol. The specific protocol, I'm just going to keep between my doctors and myself, but it was a way to stimulate my immune system to create a defense against COVID. My plan was to say that I've been immunized.
Starting point is 00:31:23 It wasn't some sort of ruse or lie, it was the truth. The problem with this is it is so political and health should not be political. It shouldn't be that Trump endorsed Ivermectin and HCQ and so take that shit off, it doesn't work. The only desire I have is to empower people out there to take autonomy over their body in all forms and facets and that you have the right to make a decision about your body. That should be an unalienable right. Very well said by Aaron Rogers, obviously truly, you know, stepping up to the plate here. And I want to point out that in a sane society, there should have been a totally different headline. What did
Starting point is 00:32:08 Aaron Rogers use that managed to work just as good as the vaccine? Because this is the truth. If the vaccine is only designed to reduce your symptoms we just heard in that CDC meeting to keep you from death, Aaron Rogers clearly didn't die, did not end up in a hospital. So whatever he did work just as
Starting point is 00:32:24 good as the vaccine. So when he said, I was immunized, it's been reported that it failed. What are you talking about? It works just as good as the vaccine. It did exactly what the vaccine did. Whatever he used and he seemed to keep it to himself. I know He said in the past his father's a chiropractor, so I'm sure he's getting very good advice along with other professionals. But the point being, if the only goal of this vaccine is to protect yourself, it doesn't protect anybody else, the selfish vaccine,
Starting point is 00:32:47 supposed to keep you out of the hospital, supposed to keep it from dying. Clearly, whatever Aaron Rogers did, it worked. And so that should be the headline. Wow, Aaron Rogers found something that works just as good to the vaccine. That's what the headlines should have been, or probably even better. But, you know, we're going to be honest about the quality of the vaccine. but you get my point. If that's the only end point is reducing symptoms. Clearly, he looks fantastic there. I'm sure he's going to be ready to play by the beginning of the next week. And so, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:15 again, just propaganda when the media is owned by someone that's selling you a product, that can't even stop infection or transmission. And he mentioned the cancel culture. So they went after his advertising gig. And they actually stood up for a state farm. So here's the headline for that. State Farm maintains ties with Aaron Rogers after vaccine comments. So this is the statement State Farm put out. We don't support some of the statements that he has made, but we respect his right to have his own personal point of view, the company said in a statement.
Starting point is 00:33:44 We recognize our customers, employees, agents, and brand ambassadors come from all walks of life with differing viewpoints on many issues. Our mission at State Farm is to support safer, stronger communities. To that end, we encourage vaccinations, but respect everyone's right to make a choice based on their personal circumstances. Man, I got a really warm feeling in here.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I'm thinking about what Brian Tamaki said at the beginning of the show. This thing is changing. It's moving. We would have never seen that response a year or two ago when we started this, Jeffrey. I mean, this is incredible to see, you know, that level, you know, an insurance company saying, you know what? We think you have a right to choose too. Boy, if I was the Biden administration, I would be quivering about now. And since we're talking football, let's give some balance to this conversation.
Starting point is 00:34:30 So this is a headline that just came out. Vikings offensive lineman Dakota Dozier hospitalized due to COVID-19 complications. It says here in the article when you dig into it, one of our players that was vaccinated, he had to go to the ER last night because of COVID. It's serious stuff, Coach Mike Zimmer told reporters Wednesday. Like 29 guys are getting tested because of close contact, including myself. And then we have University of California, Berkeley football team. This is a huge headline here.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I don't know why this isn't Trump. Trumping Air Rogers says. COVID, Cal football game against USC postponed to December 4th after outbreak of 44 cases. It says here the team has previously said that everyone in the football program is complying with the university's COVID-19 vaccine requirements and that more than 99% of the team is fully vaccinated. What the heck's happening there? Wow. So, I mean, and it goes, it goes to my point. So then whatever the new headlines should be, whatever Aaron Rogers is using is working better than the vaccine that has other football players in the hospital with COVID and a total.
Starting point is 00:35:32 failure amongst these athletes in, you know, Berkeley. Right, right. And so here we are. We have Aaron Rogers. He is, he's among one of the highest level athletic competitors in the world, quarterback. And what makes them choose these things? Well, it could be some headlines like this. Just looking across, it could be some studies like this as well. Check out this study. Effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccination against risk of symptomatic infection, hospitalization and death up to nine months. This is a Swedish total population cohort study. It says in here the findings, vaccine effectiveness of BNT162 B, that's Pfizer's vaccine, against infection wained progressively from 92% at day 15 to 30 to 47% at day 121 to 180. And from day
Starting point is 00:36:16 211 and onwards, no effectiveness could be detected. Wow. That's seven months. Now, interestingly Interestingly enough, zero. Interestingly enough, their study stopped at six months was the cutoff. So did they know something? I don't know. And also in that study, Johnson and Johnson shot no effectiveness detected after 121 days onwards. Moderna just retained 59% of effectiveness at 181 days.
Starting point is 00:36:41 It's about six months. So also in that study, it wanes faster for men. So maybe Aaron Rogers is reading the actual science. Maybe he's looking at headlines like this. France. France Macron extends booster shot, says, will be required for a health pass. We knew this was coming.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Or maybe he's looking at the NBA. NBA recommending players, coaches receive COVID-19 booster shot by December 1st. Or maybe he's just saying, I'm a pretty healthy guy. Let's go to the CDC and look at really who is dying with COVID-19. And here it says types of health conditions contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving COVID-19. This is the latest update. It says for over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause. mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes, in addition to COVID-19,
Starting point is 00:37:28 on average, there are four additional conditions or causes per death. Those are comorbidities. The average was four comorbidities, meaning life-threatening other issues that could eventually take your life. Right. So if you're in Aaron Rogers, let's look at this list of comorbidities. Well, we have cancer, cerebral vascular disease, chronic kidney disease, chronic lung disease, chronic liver disease, diabetes, down syndrome, heart conditions, HIV, on and on. obesity, pregnancy, smoking, tuberculosis, really four or more of those with the COVID mortality, okay, well, if you're a pretty healthy person, I guess you can make a decision on your own. But really, the end of this story, we're talking about the fine. He received a little over
Starting point is 00:38:10 $14,000 fine for this. His team, Green Bay Packers, received a $300,000 fine for violating the COVID protocols. So we're looking at basically $14,000, or would you like to be, you like to be, you included in one of these headlines. Take a look. A Baker County High School Senior is in the hospital after collapsing on the tennis courts. Breaking new details on the deaths of a high school soccer player. Finland, Denmark star man, Christian Erickson collapsing towards the end of the first half. The Kennedy High Community morning tonight after one of their high school football players died. A South Carolina high school football player has died after collapsing at football practice. Star college basketball player collapsing on the court.
Starting point is 00:38:53 We want to warn you, the video may be difficult to watch. Florida Gator star Keonté Johnson collapsing during the game. A West Catholic high school student has died after collapsing during a football scrimmage. On Mile 8, she suddenly felt fuzzy and blacked out. 17-year-old Ryan Jacobs' heart stopped. Unexpectedly collapsed on the field. Megan went into cardiac arrest. Collapsing during Friday night's football game.
Starting point is 00:39:18 The reason for his collapse is unknown. The reason why Manny collapsed in the first place still isn't known. So you might be wondering how someone in such great shape could suffer cardiac arrest. It's a rare thing that happens. Corner says the condition is rare. It's just one of those tragedies. Any signs before this race? Absolutely not. She felt like she's in the best shape of her life.
Starting point is 00:40:59 That's incredible. He wants to attack, but you've got to be careful. He collapsed. He collapsed. We have a player down. Something happened to one of the referees. Breaking situation here. Obviously incredibly powerful and sad, tragic.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I just want to let people know that obviously there's no proof that the over 75 stories we found when looking into this that are now being reported around the world of athletes, you know, collapsing onto the turf of their different sports. We have no proof that that happened because of the vaccine, but this is happening at a time where all of these. sports are mandating this vaccine on everybody in order to play and i can only ask the very simple question do you ever remember hearing a story of an athlete having a heart attack on the field i really i've been thinking about i can't think of one i certainly have not heard of 75 in the same year and counting this is outrageous is this is our new normal i mean it's absolutely horrific detestable and criminal the only one i can remember del is uh boston celtics I believe he was a guard, Reggie Lewis in 1993, who died of a heart attack in the gym,
Starting point is 00:43:14 at, you know, in his prime. And that grabbed headlines for a year. That was like a really big story. But that was almost, I mean, we're talking almost 30 years ago. Yeah. Amazing. Well, let's go from that and pivot a little bit. That was really powerful stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And again, I commend the team for putting that video together. Those are headlines. It would be hours to go through these headlines if you and I were talking. Yeah. But let's geek out a little bit. Let's go into some deep science here. There's a study out of Sweden that I think everyone really should take a look at. It's really important.
Starting point is 00:43:46 It's titled SARS-CoV2 spike impairs DNA damage repair and inhibits VDJ recombination in vitro. Now, we're going to break this down a little bit, make it easy to understand. So with these researchers, what they write is they say here by using an in vitro cell line. Remember, that's in a controlled environment, such in the lab, like a Petri dish or a test tube. We report that the SARS. COV2 spike protein significantly inhibits DNA damage repair. Mechanistically, we found that the spike protein localizes in the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding key DNA repair protein, BRCA1 and 53 BP1 recruitment to the damage site.
Starting point is 00:44:25 So a lot going on there. But one of the main takeaways we should really hear when reading that is it's concentrating in the nucleus. The nucleus of the cell is the main control centers. The VIP section is the brain of the cell. Nothing should be getting in there like a spike protein. And even at the beginning, when these vaccines were getting rolled out, these mRNA vaccines, we were told the vaccines do not enter the nucleus.
Starting point is 00:44:48 We were told they do not alter the DNA. So this study appears to fly in the face of those statements. And again, these are just the basic start of the study. But, you know, we're talking about the vaccines already rolled out. So why weren't these basic things done? So now let's continue. Here's an image from the study. And this is the intercellular, what they found intercellularly.
Starting point is 00:45:09 So you have these NSPs, non-structural proteins across the top, 1-5-9, 13, 14, 16, and then there's the spike protein. That's what's being found in the nucleus. So there's a visual representation of that. And those three things in the left, those are just dyes and stains that they use to identify it. But now the researchers go on to say, they go on to quote in this study, they say, our findings reveal a potential molecular mechanism by
Starting point is 00:45:35 which the spike protein might impede adaptive immunity and underscore the potential side effects of full-link spike-based vaccines. Now, here's where it gets into the science, and this is really important to understand. They go on to say N-H-E-J and homogalous recombination, HR, those are the two acronyms. We really want to pay attention to here repair, are two major DNA repair pathways that not only continuously monitor ensure genome integrity, but are also vital for. for adaptive immune cell function. So let's look at those two acronyms a little bit. I pulled this study on those recombination mechanisms in human cells.
Starting point is 00:46:17 And it says here, looking at all the literature, the scientists say, we conclude that in proliferating cells, NHEJ repair 75% of DSBs, that's double strand breaks, while HR repairs the remaining 25%. So together, you- This is some important stuff. So if you are injecting a vaccine where the side effect is blocking this action, which is what's repairing your DNA on a constant basis, you could be in real trouble. That's right. And the DSB is a double-strand DNA breaks of all the different classes of DNA damage. It's arguably the most significant because if these don't get repaired or if they're repaired incorrectly or slowly, we're talking cell death.
Starting point is 00:47:00 We're talking in the early steps of cancer formation. So now let's look. The researchers, what they did is they created various DNA damage treatments on these cells. And they found that there's less repairs in the presence of the spike protein in the nucleus. So check out this graph right here. We'll break this down. So we have the two repair mechanisms across the left side. That's the Y column.
Starting point is 00:47:21 You have NHE efficiency. That's a percentage. And then the HR efficiency on the right side, that's a percentage. If you go across, you see the spike protein there on both of them. it's not that bar is not rising very high and at the top left on these on these columns it's 100 so it's coming in somewhere around negative 80 something percent so it's inhibiting this this repair mechanism by about 80 percent in both of those repair mechanisms and let's go further into this study so it says here the researchers say to determine how the spike protein inhibits both nhej and hr repair
Starting point is 00:48:01 pathways, we analyzed the recruitment of BRAC1 and 53 BP1, which are the key checkpoint proteins for HR and NHEJ repair, respectively. We found that the spike protein markedly inhibited both BRCA1 and 53BP1 Fokai formation. Now, those two genes, BRCA1, for women who inherit that mutation or it's like an abnormal change in that gene or the BRCA2 from their mothers and fathers. They have a much higher lifetime risk of developing breast cancer, like over 70% compared to like 10 to 20% without that. The other one, 53 BP1, I'll let this study speak for itself. This is, I found this study a key player of DNA damage response with critical functions in cancer. 53 BP1, it's called, I was told it's called the guardian of the genome. And it says here in the report, it has been extensively
Starting point is 00:49:00 demonstrated that a barren expression of 53 BP1 contributes to tumor occurrence and development. 53 BP1 loss of function in tumor tissues is also related to tumor progression and poor prognosis in human malignancies. We're talking some pretty big deals here. And why, obviously, why is this important? Well, were the vaccines tested for this? Let's look at the insert themselves. Now, I pulled one insert for Pfizer's Komenardi vaccine, but J&J and Modernists say the same thing. This is under carcinogenesis, mutagenesis, and impairment of fertility. 13.1. Cominarity has not been evaluated for the potential to cause carcinogenicity, genotoxicity,
Starting point is 00:49:42 that's damaging of genetic information within the cell causing mutations. We just talked about or impairment of male fertility. And then it goes on to say, we tested some rats for female fertility. All good. Let's roll this thing out in pregnant women. But that's another story for another day. You know, we have a graph that the team found. Let me just play that really, an animation I mean to play.
Starting point is 00:50:00 So let's just sort of take people through this so they get a sense of what we're talking about. You have your DNA strands there. They're in the center. You can have a single strand break. Obviously, that's a problem. Or what we've also heard about is the double strand break in the DNA. That has to be repaired. The protein we're talking about, the BP protein, one of them is that orange that comes in and tells the DNA, stop reproducing.
Starting point is 00:50:23 yourself, tries to mend it, and there it brings in the BRCA protein to help. And they work together in a very complex mechanism to knit your DNA back together so that it doesn't start, you know, recreating an error throughout your entire body. I mean, Jeffrey, this is such a huge discovery. I wonder when people are watching it. They're just words, right? They're just these letters. We can just go, wow, that's just some brainy stuff. But this is that brainy stuff that you see in a science fiction movie that goes really by fast. And the part you remember is the scientist that's screaming into the television, we're all going to die. We're all going to die. You know, this, you know, every time we're looking at science like this, I think, wait a minute, it was just four
Starting point is 00:51:02 weeks ago we found out that the vaccine is shutting off your toll-like receptors. So for people that that's happening to, they may have no working immune system. We turned off, you know, the watchment of your immune system. Now we're finding that the building blocks of the immune system that make the, you know, that work with the antigens and try and create your immunity. That's being inhibited by these Despite proteins, you're being injected with this vaccine, they're getting into the nucleus of your cells and then blocking the development of proteins and these things that protect you from cancers
Starting point is 00:51:30 and all sorts of other diseases. I mean, it's amazing. I mean, when I sit here, honestly, you start wondering, how are the people that have this vaccine still walking around alive that haven't died yet? And how long is it before those things start kicking in? And is it possible that all of the scientific discoveries? Remember, this isn't us going to some nature of, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:50 natural health person is saying, what's your opinion? These are scientific studies done by, I'm sure, pro-vaccine scientists every single week, it feels like we're laying out another tragic error that could lead to the demise, death, and certainly severe long-term illness and consequences for those receiving the vaccines. Absolutely stunning. Stunning information there, Jeffrey. Well, let's finish up, let's get away from the science for a second. If people's heads are spinning right now. Let's just finish. finish up with what's happening in the United States. This is a rolling story of the Biden vaccine mandate through OSHA for employers with 100 or more employees. And right after our show last
Starting point is 00:52:31 week, federal court in Texas, this was the headline from the Texas Tribune. Biden's COVID-19 vaccine rules for big businesses temporarily blocked by federal appeals court. We reported last week that 20 states have filed lawsuits or AGs have jumped on to lawsuits. Now it's up to 27, at least 27 states filed lawsuits over Biden's vaccine mandate for businesses. Let's be clear, too. I want to be clear because when we originally reported this, it was like 20 states, 24, we're threatening if you do something, we're bringing a lawsuit. This is the actuality of that now.
Starting point is 00:53:02 We are now talking about 27 states involved in lawsuits against the Biden administration. More than half. More than half. So you want to ask yourself, where is this movement at? You know, where am I at? Am I all alone here? No, there's more than half of the states. the, you know, are now standing up and saying your body, your freaking choice.
Starting point is 00:53:23 And the media will try to make this a Republican issue, but it is crossing party lines. This headline Kansas Democratic governor turns on Biden vaccine mandate saying it's not correct or an effective solution. She said it's basically too late. We already have our own solutions in the state here. Essentially leave us alone. Yeah. But Biden came out in response to this lawsuit in Texas. I'm sorry, not law. but this pause and says this. White House tells businesses to proceed with vaccine mandate despite court-ordered pause. Now, the confusion is swirling everywhere on this thing now. So what's happening? Is it going? Is it not going? People are trying to figure this thing out. So what this means basically is OSHA cannot enforce the mandate currently because it's on a pause. Now,
Starting point is 00:54:08 no employer can implement this OSHA mandate. But if an employer wants to implement the vaccine or test mandate on their own, they can do that. They just can't green light OSHA's. Now, if someone is working in a state, like if you're a health care worker in New York who's under a separate state mandate that, you know, layers and layers of these mandates, this doesn't affect you at all, unfortunately, because you're under New York state mandate for the health care workers to get vaccinated. So it's kind of like trying to untangle threads here, but we're doing our best in real time. But here's some interesting headlines out of Reuters. When have you heard Reuters report like this? From Boeing to Mercedes, a U.S. worker
Starting point is 00:54:46 Rebellion swells over vaccine mandates. I mean, these are big, big words, a workers' rebellion in America. And then finally, you know, a lot of people are asking, well, how is this OSHA mandate going to be enforced? Because we're talking to 84 million U.S. employees. Well, Associated Press just told us. So it says here, AP whistleblowers to play a key role in enforcing vaccine mandate. Listen to these quotes. For a task as enormous as enforcing the new vaccine mandate, OSHA and its state partners are stretched thin, 1,850 inspectors will oversee 130 million workers at 8 million job sites. So the agency must rely on whistleblowers. The government will rely upon a core of informers to identify violations of the order.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Employees who will presumably be concerned enough to turn in their employers if their coworkers go and vaccinated or fail to undergo weekly tests to show their vaccine free. I mean, nothing says unity. Nothing says Nazi Germany, like turn in your fellow man, you know. It's unbelievable this is happening in the United States. Or we're being attempted to happen. I mean, I don't know how many people will follow through on this, but it's just enough to really send shivers up your spine.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Right, right. And reading these articles, OSHA, on top of all this, OSHA is directed to do this and have this snitch culture, basically, and they have notoriously not protected whistleblowers. They have a very weak protection system for whistleblowers and retribution from employers and employers. So it seems to be very poorly thought out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And look, we predicted this, right? We've already talked to Tammy Clark and, you know, others about the rights of OSHA and whether or not they have this jurisdiction. Clearly they do not. And now that's already proving out a court, I mean, I think that took a few hours. They immediately went to a court and the judge said, yeah, you're right. I don't see that OSHA has his power. They're going to have to prove it.
Starting point is 00:56:43 And until then, until that date, court date happens. everybody, this is a freeze. So these are incredible developments. Again, I feel like, you know, we've predicted much of this. We're on the right side of it. Jeffrey, fantastic reporting. I mean, really, really good stuff. A lot to sort of wrap our heads around. So thank you for your work. All right. Thank you, Doug. All right. Catch you next week. And if you like, you know, what Jeffrey Jackson had to share there, definitely check out. He writes for us, his own blog at the Jackson Report, gets deeper into the details of the stories he shares here. You don't want to miss that. Well, I mean, when we talk about people being injured, we talk about all the problems now with this vaccine that are happening.
Starting point is 00:57:23 So many debilitating problems, I am imagining, you know, I'm hearing from so many high, you know, sources now. Cancer is on the rise in ways we've never seen it. We're going to see autoimmune disease is starting to pop up like we've never seen it before. People are getting really sick. Many rumors were flying around whether or not, you know, Newsom was sick after his third booster. I don't, you know, whether or not that gets proven or they're lying. what's going on. We'll continue to watch that story. But obviously what it shows is this is now the mindset of the world. We're all focused on it. And I was saying this. I was saying this very early
Starting point is 00:57:56 on. As COVID started, I said, this is going to be fantastic because what was usually just this silent thing. No one was talking about it. Everybody who had an injured child, they'd say, I think my child was injured. They'd be ridiculed, cast out from society. Nobody wanted to hear it. Well, now that this vaccine is being forced on everybody, when the conversation is, could it be safe if it came out that fast and they said, oh, we're going to make a safe vaccine in no time. And now the world is watching the sausage being made. It's under a microscope and it's falling apart before our eyes. Real scientists are stepping up and say, whoa, I see a problem. You think that's a problem. Check out my problem over here. I mean, it's happening everywhere. It's quite terrifying. It's really, in many ways,
Starting point is 00:58:34 I just want to go five years forward and see how many of us are still alive when this is all over. Did it really, did somehow our immune systems figure out away? We had brilliant bodies. I really truly believe that our bodies have overcome many amazing things in this world and toxic dumps and spills and issues that we've been confronting ever since we started messing with our planet. But this may be the biggest assault on the human body and the human bodies of hundreds of millions. In fact, billions now of people have all been injected with a product that every week we're seeing more and more problems of potential long-term side effects with.
Starting point is 00:59:10 So, you know, I pray that our bodies somehow figure out a way against the, you know, this disaster or around this disastrous vaccine, but for everyone that's thinking of getting it, I think you'd be crazy to do so at this point. You obviously haven't been watching the high wire. But when we talk about being injured, you know, we think about now every time you go in, did you know it was going to be a problem? What do you do if you are injured? And, you know, what happens to your life? How does it affect the people around you? This is a story we want to talk about because I think it's really, though it happens right before COVID, we're talking about a hepatitis B vaccine, but I think the similarities that you're seeing, these injuries you're reading
Starting point is 00:59:52 on your Facebook pages, imagine how many people are going to have an experience over the next days, weeks, months, and years that are just like Dana Brizard. Six years ago, I started working with the California State Prison of Lancaster in the health care department for an associate warden. And when you start working there, you go through the procedure of classes, actually. And they brought up that we should get the hepatitis B vaccine for safety reasons working in prison around prisoners. That's the only reason why I took this vaccine. The hepatitis B vaccine is a three-part series.
Starting point is 01:00:28 So for the first two, I didn't have any adverse reactions. After I went in for my third shot, within two weeks, I started having really severe back pain. So I went to the hospital because it was very, it was very bad. And they believed it was a pinched nerve. She went to the hospital for her back, then she was sent home. Later on, she started feeling tingling in her feet. She would ask me to rub her feet because she didn't know what it was. Later that night, it started having more nerve pain in my legs,
Starting point is 01:01:02 severe pain to the touch. You know, like anybody touched my legs. It was that painful. It was that painful. And by Sunday morning, it didn't go away. So I went to the emergency room, but by the time I got to the emergency room, the pain was so bad at the point I couldn't even walk. She was just in constant pain, always saying that she's hurting, and the doctors didn't
Starting point is 01:01:22 even want to give her a Tylenol. They were just not really doing anything. I had a lot of doctors around, a lot of nurses, and in and out, in and out, in and out. And basically, the only thing I can remember is suffering. with nobody having an answer to why I was suffering. A few days after my mom was admitted, my dad said that this nurse ran in, handed him this piece of paper,
Starting point is 01:01:47 and then ran out before he could even ask her any questions. When he looked at the paper, he saw that it was a hepatography vaccine insert that shows all the symptoms or possible injuries that could happen from this vaccine. Back pain, arm pain where it's injected, where it's injected, dizziness, normal things that we would normally hear about certain things
Starting point is 01:02:11 and medications, but then reading lower, he saw some more serious injuries that could happen and he saw something called transverse mititis. He texted me when I was at work and was like, look up this thing called transverse myelitis. And when I had looked it up, it showed a list of symptoms, numbness, paralysis, loss of walking, pain. That was exactly what my mother was
Starting point is 01:02:36 experiencing in the hospital. About a week to two weeks of me being in the hospital, I finally got diagnosed with transverse myelitis syndrome myelitis optical. They started doing more plasmaphoresis, and then they was doing more blood work. And it was poking prodding me every day with, you know, needles.
Starting point is 01:03:14 So my arms were bruised up, just black and blue and purple and green from both arms. At one point, this neurologist said that I would never getting me better I would be paralyzed from the chest down for the rest of my life. At that point I just wanted to die because it wasn't even worth it to me to me to find it if you're if that was the case. I just felt like yeah that they didn't know what they were doing anymore. It was a nightmare. Within two weeks of that last dose I've been paralyzed ever since.
Starting point is 01:03:46 I was paralyzed from the chest down. My whole life my mother has been walking. So in my head I'm like, okay, I believe that she'll be walking sooner. than any of us will ever expect. After a few months, I realized that she was not going to be able to walk. I'm sorry. And then I kind of just realized that all of our lives we're about to change. It's a tragic story that I've heard far too many times
Starting point is 01:04:24 is why we are here with the High Wire and why we have our nonprofit informed consent action network. But I want to thank Dana and Chelsea for their story and they're joining me now to talk about it. Dana, first of all, I want to thank you for your courage to share your story. It must be hard to sort of relive that going through it. What's it like to take yourself back to that moment where this all happened? First, thank you for having us on for me to tell my story.
Starting point is 01:04:55 And, you know, I thought at this point it'd be easy to talk about, but just seeing it, just reliving it. and I'm still living, it's still hard, you know, to see what, you know, I've actually endured these last five years with me and my family. And we're still, you know, we're still going through it. It's still an ongoing battle. Chelsea, you know, would you have considered your mom a strong person before all of this? I mean, was she fairly self-sufficient? And, you know, what does that shift like to watching a person up Yeah, she was literally the strongest woman in my life.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Everything that she has taught me, she has always taught me to be independent, to, you know, not have to want or need from anybody to get it myself, do it myself. So seeing this transition is like a complete shift in my life. from seeing my mother being a strong independent woman to having to need for everything. But she is still extremely strong in pushing every day. When you talk about this moment where a nurse runs in hands your father the insert. Obviously someone that is like I know what this is. I don't know what they're telling you, you know, an angel of sorts but doesn't, you know, anonymous. when you get that information, how did it affect you when you first heard that the vaccine you took
Starting point is 01:06:30 maybe what's doing this to you? What ran through your mind the moment you discovered that, Dana? That's basically that's the only thing we could think of that, you know, was the problem because, you know, I've been proponent of my annual checkups. So I had just had one. And, you know, I had all kind of tests done and everything. So I came back with a clean bill of health. And this happened two months later. So that's the only thing we could even ascertain that that was the problem.
Starting point is 01:07:04 And once we realized that, you know, we had no knowledge that a vaccine could even do that. You know, we grew up taking vaccines. And so when we even said that, you know, that's a possibility the doctors tried to dispute that, saying no, that's not possible that we don't believe that was that. that's the problem. But of course we figured that's the only thing that could be the problem.
Starting point is 01:07:28 But you know, that's when the battle started, the back and forth of whether or not it was the vaccine and basically how to get how to give me some help. But, you know, they couldn't even figure out how to help me. So at that point, I just became a human, you know, guinea pig. Right. Well, obviously that's where the battle started, but you didn't run from the battle you charged in and this is that part of your story. Within a few months, once we figured out what caused my injury, we filed a claim with Workers' Comp. From then it was a battle because they denied my claim. So from then it was a legal battle. My mother, she needed consistent cost and care, and Workers' Comp didn't want
Starting point is 01:08:19 to pay anything. They did not want to send any type of help, so I had to take care of her. I had to take care of her. to learn how to bathe her, how to turn her in bed. I had to learn how to catheterize my mother. In the middle of the night, I would need to get up and turn my mom. Change her. Sometimes there would be accidents, so I would have to get up and change her. I had lost my job, and then I couldn't go to school. I became my mom's full-time caretaker. We decided to file a lawsuit against the California Department of Corrections. Over the next few years, required a lot of different doctors' visits, doctor exams. During that time, that's what my attorney's job was to prove that it was the vaccine that
Starting point is 01:09:09 caused my injury. And when we got the final verdict of whether or not the CDCR was liable for my injury, the The judge said I was able to win my case was because they proved that the only reason why I took this Hep B vaccine was because I worked at the prison and they said it was a benefit for me to take this vaccine to work at the prison and that it was the vaccine that caused my injury. When I found out that the vaccine cost my mom's injury, it was shocking. I grew up getting vaccines and then when my son, my son was, I was, I grew up getting vaccines and then when
Starting point is 01:09:50 My son was born and I gave him vaccines. Do you feel differently now about getting your son a vaccine? Oh yes, I feel completely different about vaccines now. My son has not been vaccinated since he was won. The lawsuit was great, but my life has changed. I mean, we won that battle, but I still have a daily battle with this outcome. I have pain in my legs. I have pain in my chest.
Starting point is 01:10:16 I have pain in my arms. I have pain in my back. Can't go anywhere. my own, I can't, you know, bathe on my own, I can't cook on my own, I just can't. It's been a nightmare. Don't really like to talk about it because I get emotional. I want people to know that don't believe everything, you know, doctors say or don't believe that vaccines are end all, cure all, because that's not true.
Starting point is 01:10:49 If people say, have said that to me, you can't get injured from a vaccine. Well, I'm leaving proof. you can. We watch a video like that and it can look like it's just this short period of time. You went to court. You won. How long did all of this process take? Was it easy? Was it difficult? What was it like to go through it? It's been a battle. It started my I became injured Mother's Day, 2016. Back and forth my legal battle. I didn't win my case, basically my percentage until July of 2019. Wow.
Starting point is 01:11:34 During that time, my husband and my daughter were my caretakers, you know, back and forth with doctors in physical therapy and I had to go under his insurance to get any form of care, which was very minimal, minimal also. And then that battle still continued because I had to fight for 100% disability, which I didn't get approved for it until January of this year, 2021. Wow. And I'm still battling now because being under workers' comp, they still don't want to, they still fight me on anything that I want to, you know, try.
Starting point is 01:12:07 So if I want to try stem cells because I believe that that could benefit me in the long run, they deny that because they don't deem it medically necessary. So even when in the workers' comp fight, you know, I proved that it was a vaccine that caused my injury. Right. And I did it for my job, but they still want to fight me on everything. So they still won't provide me the medical care that I believe would be beneficial for me in the long run. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:34 So I would love to get from under the Workman's Comp and, you know, in this and just, you know, get an outright, you know, settle the case. But they refuse. So even though you've won, you're still sort of under the thumb of Workman's Comp and they get to tell you what you can do. Yes. And not you're not allowed to sort of pursue different opportunities that are out there for people. that have recovered from situations like you're in. If they don't deem that they think it'll work, that's up to them and not you.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Yes. So like if the doctor doesn't say, oh, this is going to, this is, if they don't outright say the doctor, you know, find your doctor that's going to say it's going to work, but because it's experimental, they deny it. And their own, their own attorneys wanted to settle, but the California Department of Corrections refuses.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Wow. Against their own legal counsel. Wow. Amazing. Chelsea, you know, this battle's going on. How much has it affected your life? I mean, there's these repercussions, yes. Certainly, you know, your mother's life is greatly affected.
Starting point is 01:13:36 She's having, she can't do the things on her own she used to do. But how does that affect you and your father and those around you? Is it changed your life path at all? Yes. When it first happened, I was working at a law firm. I was a paralegal and I was going to school. So then I had to, you know, stop working after I lost my job. When this happened, I had to not look for another job because I had to take care of her full time.
Starting point is 01:14:06 That was difficult, you know, having to stop that, stop making money, especially having a child on top of that. So while I'm, you know, taking care of a mom, I'm also taking care of my baby and not being able to go to school or, you know, any money. So that did change my whole life path from what I wanted to pursue and do in my life. Dana, there's a lot of people now that are being told by their employers like you were take this vaccine. In fact, yours just recommended it or suggested it. We are talking about a president now that's saying, I want you to not be able to have your job unless you get the vaccine. People really grappling with that decision looking back now or looking looking into the eyes of these people that are about to have to make that choice.
Starting point is 01:14:57 What would your advice be? Especially with those that are, you know, with the prison, they're mandating a lot of vaccines, not, you know, that vaccine as well. Employers are quick to say, you know, you need to take this vaccine or now, now, oh, you can take this vaccine or you don't have a job. Well, I would suggest, you know, have the employers agree if, you know, I'll take this vaccine. if you agree to compensate me and take care of me if I become paralyzed from the chest down or the neck down or if I could have any adverse reactions that will cause me to not be able to work or even, you know, lose, lose any type of ability. So I, and don't make me wait five years to get any help.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Immediate compensation. Don't deny me any claims. If I do, you know, if I'm agreeing to do this, then agree to take care of me, agree to protect me. I think that's good advice. For those out there that are, you know, watching family members, brothers, sisters, parents, perhaps, you know, making this decision. Chelsea, what would you want to say? I would say just do your own research. Don't jump at it. Don't try to make a life decision based off of, oh, I could lose my job because, you know, there's many different ways to make money.
Starting point is 01:16:19 But if something happens to you and then you're the main. the main income provider of your household, then what's your family gonna do if you get injured from that vaccine that you just jump to get because they're trying to force you to get that. So I wouldn't suggest anybody to just get it because their job is forcing them to, especially when they won't take care of you.
Starting point is 01:16:42 We've been dealing with this for five years. My son is six now and it's happened before he was one. So I wouldn't suggest anybody to do that. that just because of a job, those bosses don't care about you. They don't. So don't risk your life for a boss. Very good advice. Dana, how do you get up to one? Where's the hope? Where is the silver lining on this? Where do you look to as you move forward with this issue? It's a daily battle. Like right now, I go to physical therapy five days a week. So that just keeps me going because I have to press press on.
Starting point is 01:17:24 I have to fight every day. And it's not easy, but my family keeps me going. My husband and my daughter, my husband and my daughter and my grandchild, they keep me focus. They keep me going, because it's a daily battle of trying to keep up the strength to do it. And for years, my husband has fought, you know, Congress. He's fought, you know, trying to get the media,
Starting point is 01:17:46 anybody to get my story out. And nobody wanted to hear us. They just swept us under the world like it didn't even after I won my case, nobody still wanted to hear my story. I contacted my own SEIU union president, 1000 for the CDCR. He ghosted me, and that was just this September. Nobody wanted to hear our story until, you know, recently just within the last month or so. With all these vaccine mandates, someone heard about our story and, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:17 Assemblyman Colbracado, he's running for a simple vaccine. He's running for assemblymen and Alessandro Mando, he's an attorney. They have been working hard with us recently to get my story out. So, and I appreciate him helping doing everything he can. And Sandra Manno doing everything they can. They have been, you know, busting their butts trying to get my story out. And it's taken over five years for anybody to make an effort. And, you know, Cole is not even in our, in our district.
Starting point is 01:18:50 He's in a whole other county, but he's bending over backwards trying to get my story out and get our story out. And, you know, if anybody wanted, you know, anybody can contact them, they'll do whatever they can to, you know, help you. Even if they can't, they'll find somebody that can help you because I'm living proof. I mean, nobody has heard my story until within the last, within the last three weeks, you know, people are coming around. I was, you know, just spoke at a rally last week. but it would have never happened if it wasn't for these two men, you know, doing their, but doing their best to help us, and they're still doing it. And I greatly appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Absolutely. Those angels are what make the difference in this world. I'm glad that you found that. I also want to, you know, let you know that for what it's, you know, I don't know what value it has, but I think you should know that by sharing your story here on the high water and the millions of people that will now see it, I know for a fact that you've just saved somebody's life. So your life is of great importance and perhaps the power of what you will do in this life may be more than you would have had you stayed on the trajectory you were on. So I will be praying
Starting point is 01:19:59 as many of us will for your speedy recovery and that chance to get back to the life you once had. I want to thank you so much for joining us today and sharing your story. And we greatly appreciate you putting us on here also because you just don't know how grateful We all are because we know that you have millions of viewers and we greatly appreciate you taking your time and Your you know your effort to get my story out and you know I know it this can be easy either But you know I great appreciate you taking your time and your your group to you know to come out and you know Take the time to get to know us and you know get our story up because people need to know it doesn't just affect me it affects the whole family Yes, truly well you are most welcome
Starting point is 01:20:45 Thank you. And keep us posted with all of the, you know, changes and advancements in your story. Take care. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Well, if you know somebody or you yourself has been injured by a vaccine with this COVID vaccine, then there is a place you can go. We've built it just for you. Take a look at this. If you or a loved one has been injured after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine,
Starting point is 01:21:11 including if you are a participant in a clinical trial, go to Injured by Conjured by COVID vaccine.com. Submissions are confidential. We are here to help provide support, including connecting with medical specialists and potentially securing legal representation. To assure the safety of COVID-19 vaccines for everyone, it is imperative that every person injured by this product report their injury. We can provide assistance completing a report to the CDC's vaccine adverse events reporting system. So, if you or a loved one has suffered an injury from a COVID-19 vaccine. Go to Injured by COVID vaccine.com now. Well, our phones are ringing off the hook because after we saw the CDC essentially recommend the vaccine for five to 11-year-olds,
Starting point is 01:22:04 now so many people around this country feel like their children are on the chopping block, all those calls saying, what do we do? What mandate will work? How do I keep my children from being vaccinated inside of a, you know, to go to a public school or a private school where we live. How long is this going to take? How much time do I have? All of these questions. But the one thing that I just don't think most of you are thinking about when you're calling us or talking to us is what if public and private school is not the best choice for your kids? I think that's a conversation that needs to happen. And we want to have that today. I want to help you with that by sort of getting a friend of mine, Sam Sorbo, who has a show on
Starting point is 01:22:45 Epoch Times exactly about this called Schools Out. Take a look. Have you ever asked yourself what education, the word, really means? We all want our kids to get a good education, but what exactly do we have in mind? We will explore homeschooling, the taboos, the trials, the triumphs. Welcome to Schools Out with Sam Sorbo, a series about education. What you don't know, what you should do. know and what to do about it. Well, it's a great show on Epoch TV slash schools out.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Definitely check that out. But I'm joined right now by Sam Sorbo. So first of all, Sam, thank you for taking the time to join us and have what I think is maybe the most important conversation in the midst of this insanity happening. Yeah, I like the way you frame that, Del, because it is the most important conversation to have. And I've been saying for a while now that we get education completely wrong. Almost, it's probably a worldwide phenomenon at this point.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Our education colors exactly how we see the world. It colors everything. And so, yeah, I'm thrilled to be able to have this conversation for you and your viewers. When we think about homeschooling, I mean, obviously there's a lot of things that go into that decision. But I think the first thing, and probably your focus, is when parents, think is that a good idea for my child? I mean, I don't, I want my child to get a good education. They need to learn math and the sciences and there's no way I have the ability to do that. What is your, you know, what do you say to a parent that just thinks, that's crazy talk?
Starting point is 01:24:31 I'm going to end up raising a vegetable that's going to be incapable to survive in the world. Well, a couple of things. One, why do they need to know math and science? Just ask yourself that question. And the answer that you will come up with is, is because that's what you were taught to value. And that's the problem that we have. I'm not saying that I don't value math and science, by the way, I'm a mathematician and an engineer. So to me, math and science are like the most important things,
Starting point is 01:24:59 but not to my daughter who is an artist. And so how do I educate her if I send her to the institution where they say, no, you better learn your math and you better learn your science. And they discourage her from learning anything because only math and science is what they focus on, and that simply is not her strength. She feels like a failure,
Starting point is 01:25:22 it disenfranchises her from the entire education process. And that's really where we are today. We've mucked up the whole process and we're disenfranchising students left, right and center. And I back that up with this new, the newfangled Common Core. So Common Core, they reinvented how to teach a child math. Why did they do that?
Starting point is 01:25:44 Were we getting it wrong for all these many decades? No, they reinvented the way to teach a child math for, it's hard to say, it's hard to describe if it's not for nefarious reasons. I don't know what it is for because it was working just fine. But now the child brings home the common core math, whether it's lattice or the other ways that they're trying to show the children how to do math. Many of them are ridiculous. And the child says to the parent, help me do this.
Starting point is 01:26:14 this. And the parent says, I can't do that. I wasn't taught that. I don't know what that is. And the child goes, boy, my parent is an idiot because he can't even do fourth grade math. You see, the school forms a wedge between the child and the parent. It cannot help but do that. And by the way, I do not talk about teachers. I love teachers. I think teachers are trying to do the best that they can in a failed system or a perverted system, if you will. But there's a better way. And that's what I talk about on my TV show. When you say the system is perverted, what are your issues with the system? You know, what is it about how they raise our kids?
Starting point is 01:26:52 I believe that children are each individuals. The system seeks conformity and nothing but conformity. You must obey the rules. And by the way, that's the big problem that we're having right now is we still have an independent spirit in this nation. And so you have a number of parents who are saying, wait, that's a rule that I think is wrong, whether it's the masks or the vaccines or whatever. right? And they're saying, I think that's wrong, but the school says, no, no, no, you must conform. And now the schools are saying there are no exception, because it used to be, oh, well, I'll be the exception. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no exceptions allowed. They're seeking full-on conformity.
Starting point is 01:27:29 The problem with that, and it's the same thing that Common Core ushered in. So if you recall, common core was ushered in to get conformity across all the states, well, that's not the, the metric that we use in the United States, in these federated union of states, right? And so what, you know, I had a conversation with a gal on a plane and she was a tutor. She had a tutoring facility. It never occurred to her why a tutoring facility was necessary. The failure of the schools is why we have tutoring facilities, okay? But nevertheless, we were talking about Common Core and she said she really thought it was great because it would level out the standards. It was going to standardize everything. so all the children would be at the same level.
Starting point is 01:28:13 And I said to her, well, what if the level is down here, as opposed to what you're envisioning? You're envisioning the levels up here. And all the students are somehow magically going to rise. No, that's how it works. When you see conformity, you need the lowest common denominator, not the highest common denominator. That's math, by the way.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Absolutely. Well, so you, you know, homeschooled your own kids, I take it? So I don't, I prefer not to use the word homeschool anymore because what I've realized now is it's not home and it's not school. So we use the word self-teaching or home education. But yes, my three have been home educated since my second one. That's him on the, what is it for you? I get the tallest one. I pulled him out because the school was failing him.
Starting point is 01:29:01 They weren't doing the job that I thought that they should do. And I was a little bit more exigent maybe than your average bear. and they were using him because he was so well-behaved. And he was good at certain things. And so she would use him to tutor her misbehaved children. And I'm like, well, that's great, but it's not his job. Right. When you think about like the school system, you know, kids standing in lines,
Starting point is 01:29:27 raising their hands, waiting for their turn, all of these things, you know, I think about that a lot now. I think about, you know, raising my own kids. I'm asking questions of myself, what are the advantages? now of sort of waiting your turn. Where is that ever going to work for me in the working world? It seems to me that the people that excel are the ones that walk right in through the front door. They don't wait for a line.
Starting point is 01:29:49 They don't wait for a phone call. They say, I'm here for this job. I'm the man for the job. I'm the woman for the job. So it's like we go through a school system that says stand at the back of the line. And then as soon as you get in the world, you recognize nobody is, you know, by the time I get to this end of this line, there's nothing there for me. And so how does that wax? Are we teaching our children the wrong thing when we want them to be dynamic, performing, you know, powerful, creative individuals?
Starting point is 01:30:15 Well, Stell, you just put your finger right on it. I mean, that's the problem with our education system in the United States, is it's actually in the business of de-educating children, uneducating children, anti-education. And I can prove it. Very simply. You talked about raising your hand. what is this, you have to raise your hand to what, ask a question. And it actually makes it a visceral, you're internalizing it physically when you raise your hand to ask a question. When you ask it, when you have to raise your hand, you have to think about this. What is it teaching you?
Starting point is 01:30:55 And you're internalizing, what's the lesson? And the lesson, I'll shortcut it, is don't question, which by the way is the problem that we're having right now in the United States and world is nobody seems to be asking the really pertinent questions. And so we're in we're struggling. But when you, but but let's let's take a definition for the word education there. There are lots of ways to define education, but I think we can all agree that education ought to be the quest for knowledge, right? Right. The quest for knowledge is generalized. Okay, that, that, that seems to work. What is the quest for knowledge? It involves what? Questions and yet
Starting point is 01:31:33 in our schools we're teaching children not to question and you're right. We're teaching them to stand in line to wait their turn, to not speak out of turn, to not question, to not be engaged. Really, we're actually disengaging them from the whole process. Because when the teacher stands in front of the classroom and says of information, and we just sit by and hope that we get the information that we need, and it changes the entire paradigm. That's not education. That's schooling.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Right. So we're being taught. You broke up a little bit there. Your video is a little bit in and out. But basically waiting for an expert, the teacher to tell me what information that I need, and that's the only information that I need. We don't teach ourselves to do that sort of internal looking to what do I want, what I care about, what am I looking for, and where do I look for that information?
Starting point is 01:32:21 It's just, it's put upon me by somebody else. It's not mine internally. Correct. Yeah. Correct. And unfortunately, that's the paradigm. That's the school paradigm. That's why I say just pull your kids out of school.
Starting point is 01:32:36 Like, do it. and then worry about how to teach them what they need to know because I'll tell you this. You won't learn anything that you don't hire to learn. It doesn't matter if you're forced to do it for a test. You'll forget it the next day. You will only learn the things that you really truly desire to learn. And so enable your children to express what they truly desire to learn, guide them in that desire, right? Math is something that's necessary, rudimentary math at least, right?
Starting point is 01:33:04 But maybe not math, maybe not calculus, if they want to be, you know, better. Maybe calculus is not the thing for them to learn. Right. Well, I mean, I think all those are really important points. And one of the things, you know, we've done here in Texas is for those of us that are really busy, I'm really busy, it's very hard to find the time. And that pressure goes on to my wife that's trying to do a lot. But we formed a, you know, a co-op. And we reached out to other parents and said, would you want to go in on maybe, you know,
Starting point is 01:33:34 funding some teachers to take the kids some of the time when we can't all do it. I mean, there's so many different ways to do it that I think people feel like I could never do it. I don't have enough time. But you must be sensing or feeling in the middle of this pandemic and all the masking, the social distancing and the, you know, the social discussions that are happening in schools. Right. All the child abuse that's happening. Yeah, I call that child I think that you're right. There's absolutely no truth. First of all, the children have a very, very, very low susceptibility to COVID and they
Starting point is 01:34:10 don't transmit and to mask a child with no evidence that masks are effective and in fact a great deal of evidence that they're not. That's just child abuse. I don't, and by the way, if you don't believe in masks and you're still allowing them to mask your child, you're proving to your child that you're a hypocrite. And so you, in fact, are engaging in forming the wedge between your and the child. But I want to point out, we think of school as being a full-time job for our children, more than full-time because we actually accept that they get homework, which I go, why should
Starting point is 01:34:41 they have homework? They're in the classroom for eight hours a day or seven hours a day. School is not seven hours a day. By the way, education really is 24 hours a day. But if you want to take it just from the teacher's paradigm, just from this idea that you want to educate your child, first of all, children are trainable, you train them to sit with you in the room and not be obnoxious and not disrupt you. You bring them to work with you. You show them what you do for a living. There are many different ways to educate a child. You do not have to subscribe to all of the textbooks and follow exactly what the textbooks are teaching because that might not be the best paradigm for your child. I see the images that you're, it just, it kills me. It just slays me to see these children
Starting point is 01:35:24 with masks on their faces. It's just child abuse. It deprives them of oxygen. That That much has been proven. It's a terrible, terrible thing. You know, it was interesting. I'm reflecting back with my mother homeschooled, my sister and I and my little brother, I was the oldest. She pulled me out of, I think it was third grade when she recognized. I was sort of deferring all of my decisions to my friends.
Starting point is 01:35:49 And she's like, I'm not going to raise peons that follow everybody else. I want to raise leaders. And, you know, and I was just having a funny moment as I was in a deep conversation with this world-renowned scientist, Geert Band and Bosch, for the show that's coming up next week. I'm trying to really get into the biology. I mean, so deep in the weeds now on things. And I took a break. And I remember just going into the bathroom and washing my face and thinking, man, I'm in biology.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Hell right now. And I hated biology in school. I was like, when am I ever going to use this? And here I am. And I'm laughing at myself because I'm thinking, like, not only going to use it, essentially, Dell, you're being asked to be up at the chalkboard of the world here on the high wire to try and help explain it. And so the point being, now I really care about it, right? And the moment, until we care, and it really, it's not too late.
Starting point is 01:36:35 You know, I've had this amazing career that got me into the science and medicine when I was at CVS. And so your life takes you on these journeys. But really what I felt like homeschooling taught me was how to, as you said, be a self-learner, like to self-teach. That's what it gave me. My mom, you know, she basically would say, here's some books. And then I did most of the work myself. And that, I think, over all the rest of it. And anytime I'm coming up on a short on a conversation, the one thing I don't think to myself is I have to find an expert to, you know, to do this for me.
Starting point is 01:37:07 I know that I can do that research and that I can figure it out. And so, um, isn't it interesting that now we have so little confidence in our politicians, they used to be the ones who were supposed to be clever enough to be making decisions. And even they are saying, hey, trust the experts. Let's refer to the expert here. And it's a very dangerous thing when you, you just defer all of your mental decision-making powers to somebody else. And that's, of course, that is the self-teaching paradigm. That is the home education model is that what you want to create is you want to create a child that loves to learn and that will be learning for the rest of their lives. I'm sure you're on a big learning curve right now, but you're choosing it.
Starting point is 01:37:51 You're saying, okay, and not only that you know how to learn, right? We're teaching children that they don't know how to learn, that they have to be taught. by a teacher. I mean, it's a terrible thing. What we're doing is we're crippling these children by putting them in these institutions. And it's a very sad thing to me. And that's why I'm on a crusade, if you will, to free the parents from the system and free the children at the same time. And not only that, Del, and I don't know if this is your experience, but my experience with my own children is I have three phenomenal teenagers with whom I can talk about just about anything. and have meaningful discussions because they are thinkers.
Starting point is 01:38:34 And they can challenge me on things and I can challenge them on things and it's a back and forth. But it's never the, oh, roll your eyes kind of, oh my gosh, teenagers, what can you do with them? That's because I fostered that relationship from when they were a little child.
Starting point is 01:38:52 When you send your children away from you for seven or eight hours a day, you're forfeiting that. You have no idea what you're sacrificing when you're doing that. You're just doing it because that's what the whole system tells you to do. And that's sad to me that all these parents have just bought into this. Basically, it's a lie. It's a lie for them to tell you that your child is going to be educated if they go to school. In Ohio, do you know what the definition of proficiency is for one school district in Ohio?
Starting point is 01:39:18 No. You think it might be 70% on the test, right? Or at least 65%, like better than failing. No, it's 38%. So they just redefine the test. the word proficiency and then they say they sell you this lie that your child is proficient. We're graduating children who can't read. There should be a law against that, but look who's making the laws. Right. The teachers unions. Well, and you know, we're letting the children down.
Starting point is 01:39:45 We're letting ourselves down, but really we're letting our future down. I mean, and for anyone watching this show right now, I want to say this. I'm saying on the stages all across this country every time speaking every single weekend, pull your kids out of school. now. Number one, they should not be wearing masks. And if you're the only one, you know, that has them, you know, the exemption from the mask, you really want them to be in there being bludgeoned with stupidity and idiocracy from their parent, I mean, from the teacher and from, you know, their, their peers. And then when you think about all the other conversations they're having, you know, you want the sexuality of your child being discussed by teachers or do you want to
Starting point is 01:40:23 have that conversation? I mean, all these things, but mostly don't we need leaders? I mean, we're going to need leaders to get us through these times that are now ahead of us. Very difficult and complex decisions that will be dealing with our interaction with AI and humanity and what we're going to hold on to as our strength and our power as human beings. The last thing we need are a bunch of drones that have just sort of just turned their lives over to other people. It's why I think we find ourselves in this mess right now. Luckily, as you said, the American spirit really seems to still be alive and pumping
Starting point is 01:40:56 at least 50% of this nation, I think, is really resisting right now where everything's going, which is better than I can say for almost any other country in the world. Yeah, and do understand that when you turn your child over into the institution, they have the right to vaccinate your child without your knowledge or your consent. It's called some kind of a consent, like just by putting your child in. It's a brand new thought. Assume what I was going to hear about like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Implied. That's what is. I just got from the implied consent that by sending your child to the school, you're implying that you consent to the rules that they're working under. And if that's vaccinations, this is something that we're just working on talking about. It's sort of a new thought and a new terror. Sam, we could talk all day, but you have a show that does that.
Starting point is 01:41:43 So tell me, how do we follow the work that you're doing once we pull our kids out of school? You have a lot of great information. Tell me about your show and your websites. Thank you so much. So my website is samsorbo.com. You can also go to Sorbos Studios.com and check out there. I have everything both places. Epic TV has been just phenomenal,
Starting point is 01:42:05 and my show, Schools Out with Sam Sorbo has been doing very well. I'm just discussing various ideas that we don't tend to look at when we're discussing education. And I want to basically upend the very way that we interpret or look at education, especially for our children. And so I'm doing that on the show, and it's been a blast. I'm getting tons of feedback. I had a gal reach out to me the other day and say,
Starting point is 01:42:31 she's an educational psychologist, and it took her five years to realize that that's an oxymoron, because education seeks conformity and psychology looks for individuality. And that was like a light bulb went off in my head. Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, we still have a lot to learn. I'm still discovering more and more that the farther away from the system, I get, the more I discover how perverted it has been. And it's a travesty.
Starting point is 01:43:00 So get your kids out, get them out now. You can do this. That's my message to parents, is you absolutely can do this, and you can foster a long-lasting relationship with your child like nothing you ever dreamt of. Sam, it's all such great information. Thank you so much for your work and spreading this message. It's so important this time and continue to keep us updated
Starting point is 01:43:22 with all of your future episodes in the work that you're doing. Thank you for taking the time. Thank you. Really appreciate the opportunity. You bet. Take care. Well, I mean, it's it's down to us, right? How, you know, not only are we having to stand up now, are we standing to find that Haka dance inside of us, that that spiritual power to move forward and stand up for what we believe, to start announcing who we are, to have the power to not wait, you know, for our turn in line or to be pointed to or get, you know, an opportunity. We're recognizing we've got to speak for ourselves now. We've got to speak to everyone around us.
Starting point is 01:43:56 We've got to start making a difference. We've got to start thinking about our children. Our children telling people all around the country as I travel are being raised in wartime. You cannot look at them. They are not living in this same simple world. They're seeing crazy images of masks. If you're not home, do they just turn on the TV and watch Big Bird getting a vaccine and not seeing them puke afterwards?
Starting point is 01:44:18 All of this is dangerous. And you're not going to be able to stop all of it. You're going to have to do your best to try and do. avoid it. But are you having the conversations with your children? Are you spending enough time with them so they can overcome the brainwashing that is affecting hundreds of millions Americans and billions of people around the world? You know, these are the questions we've got to ask ourselves. This is what the high wire is all about, is bringing you this story, bringing you ways forward, not just bringing up the problems, but talking about the solutions. When we talk about,
Starting point is 01:44:48 you know, now you know maybe workman's comp. If you've been injured, might be a way to go. Sue workman's comp since you can't sue the manufacturer. We looked into it. That's a possibility. It's not great. It's not a huge amount of money. But it is not protected by the PEP Act. We looked into it.
Starting point is 01:45:01 It's not protected by the 1986 Vaccine's Recompensation Program. So if you're a friend out there that got vaccinated because their company said so, they may actually have recourse. So definitely look into that. I also want to point out, though, for those of you that may give in, I don't know why you would, why you would risk your life. People say, I've got to get the vaccine because I've got to feed my family. My question is, how do you feed your people?
Starting point is 01:45:24 family if you're dead. But for those people out there, one thing we did learn in researching Dana's story about the vaccine injury and in court, the PEP Act will protect, you know, those employers if the employer is the one giving you the vaccine. That was one of the things that I wanted to share with you. So if you work in a hospital and you get your vaccine inside that hospital system, you have no workman's comp lawsuit available to you. They will be protected just by the 1986 Act of the PEP Act. So if you're going to make that decision, make that. sure that you get that vaccine outside of the employment system that you're working in. All right. Well, there's a huge, huge story that truly brought a tear to my eye today.
Starting point is 01:46:05 It's going to be very hard to convey the power of this, but I'm going to do my best. New Jersey, you know, over, I think it was almost two years ago now, was fighting for its life to keep from having their religious exemption, their right to a religious exemption for vaccines. They were trying to take it away. It was all being headed by the Senate president at the time, Sweeney. Steve Sweeney, this guy was an animal. He was horrible.
Starting point is 01:46:33 He would not have any conferences or discuss with the parents. He was bullying people inside the Senate and ultimately inside the Congress to push through these laws. It was so clear he was getting just incredible amounts of pharmaceutical funding. One of his statements, and you could tell he was being brainwashed by the pharmaceutical industry, because of these moronic things he was saying. This was one of the events he had where he was actually called out by, you know, one of our people that have a brain on the issue of aborted fetal cell lines and vaccines. This is, this is Sweeney speaking back then.
Starting point is 01:47:07 The reason for a religious exemption was back in the 50s and 60s, they used fetal tissue environment, to make the vaccines. That was the reason why. They don't do that. They don't. they do. No, they don't. Incredible. I mean, we made a bunch of memes, put those videos out. They sort of went viral, him saying they don't. And then one of the guys sitting there saying they do. No, they don't. Yes, they do. Of course, if you watch the highway, you know that he's wrong.
Starting point is 01:47:39 I actually not sure that he's lying there. He looks like an idiot who truly believes what he's been told by those that are pushing him. So anyway, all of this was coming to a head and we found ourselves, you know, having to sort of stand up. And it was amazing. Vigils were taking place outside the capital of New Jersey. Robert Kennedy Jr. was heading out. There was Ph.D. I would go out with the informed consent action network. We were all trying to be a part of this conversation because they were having events. They were staging. We would hear, oh, it's on Monday they're going to vote. So a bunch of people that had Monday free would get out there. Well, it all came down to a moment where we, you know, we call it the Battle of Trenton. The day when it was sleeting and snowing, it was a horrible day.
Starting point is 01:48:19 I was out there with over 5,000 people. We all spoke early in the day, and then in the afternoon, we made our way around to the back of the state capital where we knew our voices could be heard in the rotunda, where they were going to be making, or the Senate room, where they were going to be having this vote
Starting point is 01:48:38 to remove the religious exemption. We knew it was close, and so we would chant the names. We would hear that Steve Sweeney is, you know, really on Ligana, you know, one of the other senators there. He's trying to be. get into shift this vote trying to get in and we would just start chanting god bless lagana i mean it was
Starting point is 01:48:54 such an amazing moment i absolutely blew my voice out as did the five to 10 000 people uh that were there with us we put everything we had every time we would get tired someone would be up in the window above us saying you know you know you got to keep chanting now you're you've got them you're moving them they can't steve you know steve sweeney's getting frustrated he's getting pissed off he's kicking papers around he's angry and you can hear your voices you know you know you know rising through the entire Senate. And at a certain moment, when we thought we had nothing left, you know, they were in the window. Come on, we need you now.
Starting point is 01:49:27 And so this is me bringing in the last chant before we found out the inevitable. Take a look at this. And what we're hearing is what really rings in there is when we tell them to kill that bill. So kill that bill. Kill not bill. Amazing moment that was. I think we all feel like we won the World Series. I know it sits that high up in the experiences I've had. Well, you know, we won that night.
Starting point is 01:50:49 And this week we found out, you know, as there was some votes going on, that Steve Sweeney was fighting for his political life. And yesterday I found out that he just conceded. This is the headline. New Jersey Senate President Sweeney concedes in a stunning election loss. spending $2,300 GOP newcomer Ed Deer beats top New Jersey lawmaker. Murphy stunned at Sweeney's election loss. I do not welcome this in any way across.
Starting point is 01:51:20 We're talking about Governor Murphy. Despite a sometimes tumultuous relationship with the state Senate President Stephen Sweeney, Governor Phil Murphy said Friday he's stunned and bummed over the incredible upset. New Jersey's second most powerful elected state officials suffered in Tuesday's election. I can only tell you nothing represents the power of the people more than what happened in New Jersey. The fact that it has continued on that, you know, an arrogant Steve Sweeney who said, I will get this bill through. These people are wasting their times out there. Not only did we not waste our times, not only did we stop the removal of that religious exemption.
Starting point is 01:51:58 Now Steve Sweeney is back out on the street where he belongs and not inside the Capitol. Folks, I cannot tell you what it's like to be a part of these moments. You have got to get out there. When you stand with your fellow man for what you know to be the truth, and you, you know, even for those that lose, they had just lost in New York, but then the New Yorkers had even more power, and they came to New Jersey. All of it is leading to what I believe is ultimately the win. And as I'm talking about it, there's an event. If you're anywhere in the Oklahoma area, this event is happening this week.
Starting point is 01:52:32 It's going to be Monday, second floor of the rotunda, visit the legislators 1 to 5 p.m. We, the people, together we stand at the Capitol Day and rally, Oklahoma State Capitol. If you're anywhere, again, we will be screaming this live, but I do not want to hear you watch this rally live on the high wire, and you were 300 miles away from there. You should make that drive. This is that moment. We are winning this, just like we're seeing in New Zealand, whether you can do the Haka dance or not, your presence, the power, the spiritual power that is felt inside of these capitals. When we show up en masse, we are moving this needle, not just in Oklahoma, not just in New Jersey,
Starting point is 01:53:12 around the world, in New Zealand, in Australia. Together, we are standing arm in arm. We are the resistance. We are the movement, and we are winning. Hold on to that. Recognize the power that we have as independent individuals, raising independent, powerful warrior children standing together. I cannot wait for the day when not only New Jersey, not just America, but the world, here's that moment with the man standing in the window going,
Starting point is 01:53:44 they just died, they just got it killed, it's over. We have won to that day. And up until that day, we will be here on the high wire. And until that day, I'll see you next week. And by the way, I want to just make one last announcement to all the veterans out there that fight for our rights in the greatest country in the world and really the veterans of every nation around the world that have stood for freedom, have stood for justice. I know that you will stand with the people now. Veterans Day, what you've fought for is under threat. We will not forget you. We will not forget what this nation represents. It's so important now more than ever.
Starting point is 01:54:23 We stand with our veterans. We stand with the truth. And we stand for victory. I'll see you next week.

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