The Highwire with Del Bigtree - TACKLING THE CHEMTRAIL CONTROVERSY

Episode Date: March 14, 2023

Del tackles the taboo topic with Chemtrails and weather modification, questioning Lead Researcher for ‘GeoEngineering Watch,’ Dane Wigington, on his findings from US Patents, military whistleblowe...rs, and even lab-studied samples from cloud seeding. Is it a global conspiracy?Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There has been a conversation that so many of you have been asking me to get into everywhere I go. This topic comes up. It looks like this. We see it all over the internet. Take a look at this. Look at that line. It keeps on getting longer. I'm not moving.
Starting point is 00:00:21 He's about to leave my screen. And that's weird. What is it? What is it? This is not natural. Any idiot would know this is not natural. We've had a bunch of planes flying over the house. We've had local planes that have absolutely no trail whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Look, look, that's turning into a whole cloud. Look at that. It's insane. All these clouds weren't here until the airplanes did that. Yeah, you tell me that's water vapor, guys. You're being lied to. Your climate change is being delivered to you like a soft serve ice cream going. This is one of those topics where, you know, I imagine the audience is trying to figure out where exactly I am.
Starting point is 00:01:19 And in usual fashion, the only way I can do this show is to be totally honest with you. It's unscripted. Therefore, I would have to imagine so many different scenarios to try and lie or cheat or get around. It's not how I work. I honestly am investigating things that interest me. This is a topic that interests me. Now, there's so much that we could get into. But before I got into it, I don't, you know, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I'm not going to get anything that has no science background whatsoever. It's just some crazy thought, and there's some out there, and people can cover it. Maybe I'm wrong, but there has to be some evidence that even allows it to be something we discussed here. The highway we pride ourselves on the evidence and being an evidence-based show. So we did a quick analysis of what we could find. Is there such a thing as geoengineering and cloud seeding and things like that? And a lot of documents come up. I want to read through just a few before we even get started.
Starting point is 00:02:11 started. This is what we found with our team and just sort of a cursory look at the history of this concept of controlling weather geoengineering. Take a look at, oh, oh, by the way, before I even get to that, the reason I even thought of doing this topic is China, and this is the Guardian. China, this is just recently, China modified the weather to create clear skies for political celebration study. I found that really shocking. China is now controlling the weather. These are real headlines. What's the environmental cost? Not, is that Crazy talk, no. It's what's the environmental cost going to be? China allocates 8.8 billion yen for weather modification programs. So they're really invested in Jingyang reduces farming
Starting point is 00:02:53 damage by weather modification. So they're obviously using it. They're proud of it. They're celebrating it. And so that initially, because this topic's been out there, said to me, okay, there's legitimacy right there. You have a huge nation that is really technically advanced. saying we are bragging about the fact that we made weather better so that we could have clear skies during an event. So that says to me this exists. Now let's get into the history of this concept here in the United States of American Round. Here's some of the documents that we found. This is all the way back in, I think it's 1969.
Starting point is 00:03:31 There it is. Air Weather Service, United States Air. This is from our government. This is what it had to say. It says in 1969, the Air Weather Service mission includes the field, testing and operational application of weather modification techniques. It is increasingly probable that at some stage in their careers, AWS personnel will be called upon to support one or more weather modification projects.
Starting point is 00:03:52 This report has been prepared to provide the basic knowledge in the fields of cloud physics and weather modification required to furnish such support. So back in 1969, we're already working on this. We've got our best and brightest looking at weather modification. It goes beyond that. That's 69. Now I believe this is somewhere around 1974. It is useful to start out differentiating between climate modification and weather modification.
Starting point is 00:04:17 The former concern changes effective over large areas and long periods of time. Among the many suggested projects in the fields are warming the Arctic by damning the bearing straight, melting polar ice caps, and altering the amount or distribution of insulation received by the Earth. However, even in such objectives, even if they could be achieved, a doubtful proposition in the foreseeable future, unpredictable, byproducts of the operation could well be catastrophic. Resulting calamities might include the flooding of heavily populated coastal plains, the turning
Starting point is 00:04:48 of fertile areas in the deserts, the destruction of fish, bird and animal life, and the propagation of destructive insects and diseases into susceptible areas. Clearly, there are concerns about the ramifications. Despite the realization that man is not yet ready for experiments in climate control, inadvertent climate changes may possibly be taking place today. It has been suggested that the release of CO2 from the combustion of colon, hydrocarbon fuels may significant. increased the greenhouse effects on the Earth's atmosphere. Similar to the effect of high-altitude aircraft and rocket exhaust products in the very thin upper atmosphere, including the release of CO2 and water vapor and the possible destruction of ozone may in time lead to changes in our environment.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Combustion products from factories and automobiles could add ice nuclead to the air and perhaps affect precipitation. So there is a document where there obviously our government is looking into this idea of affecting the weather. Now cut to just a few years later. Clearly, this has gotten further down the road. This is a document in which in 1976, weather modification technology is significant potential for preventing birding, moderating, or ameliorating the adverse effects of such disaster
Starting point is 00:05:54 and hazards and enhancing crop production. They're talking about all of the droughts above and the floods and all these things. We could affect that. It goes on. Weather modification programs may have long-range and unexpected effects on existing climatic patterns, which are not confined by national boundaries. So there, clearly now the technology is moving forward. They're starting to see the promise of it.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And then you have to imagine, well, what is the politics around it? And all that starts shifting. We see some documents on this, is weather modification hearings. This is subcommittee on oceans and international environment. This is 1974, this particular document. So now they're so far along. The subcommittee met pursuant to notice at 10.05 a.m. in a room. I won't get into that.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Senator Pell this morning, the subcommittee on oceans and international. environment is meeting to hear testimony concerning the need for an international agreement prohibiting the use of environmental modification and geophysical modification as weapons of war. It is regrettable that this hearing must be held. It would not have been necessary if the administration promptly responded to the other complaints that we made, it goes on and on. So here we now see that whatever the technology is and whatever our government understands, it is now getting to a place where they're realizing, oh my God, this looks real for our future, and we better have a resolution that stops people from using this as a weapon of war.
Starting point is 00:07:15 The U.N. even gets involved. Beyond our government, the U.N. has this document, and this is the Convention on a Prohibition of military or any other hostile use of environmental modification techniques. This is in Geneva, 1977. The state parties to this convention guided by the interests of consolidating peace and wishing to contribute to the cause of halt in the arms race and of bringing about general and complete disarmament under restrict and effective international control of saving mankind from the danger of using new means of warfare. Determined to continue negotiation with the view to achieving effectiveness, effective progress towards further measures in the field of disarmament.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Recognize that scientific and technical advances may open new possibilities with respect to modification of the environment. It goes on in there. I'm going to take it. That's where I want to leave it at the moment, because here's where I'm at. where I'm at. As a journalist, I study humanity. I have been interviewing people my whole life. It's why I do what I do. And so when I come to this topic, you know, I come to it with, look, there is a past. It clearly, we were working on technologies. We saw that they could be used for war. And my understanding of my government is they love war, and they will use
Starting point is 00:08:29 anything they can for war. I've also seen scientists that will do anything they can to play God. And when you do polling around the United States of America, really around the world, about 50% of people believe that science is the only way we're going to be saved. So I pump that ego justification into a bunch of scientists that just like they ran this through a pandemic and vaccines want to try and do something to stop us from the harm that God or nature has done to us. I have to believe this stuff is going on on some level. That's where I'm at. Now, the question I want to deal with now is really at what level are we at? Because this all kind of disappears. It seemed like we were publicly talking about it.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Now it's only conspiracy theories are talking about it. It's not really happening. I don't buy that. And so to get to the bottom of this conversation and to bring some of my own hard questions, I want to bring in Dane Wigington, who really is arguably the leading researcher. He's the leading researcher of geoengineering watch, which is the most, I think, I mean, It literally has so much documentation. It's made this show difficult to put together.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Let me just bring Dane on now because he's the one you always request for me to talk to. Here he is. Dane Wigginetan joins me now. Dane, first of all, I want to thank you for taking the time. You've been very focused on this for years. We spoke briefly about this several years ago with the beginning of Highwire. So welcome back. Dale, good to be back.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Thank you for your voice on the most diaries. issues that we face and on this specific issue the overlap between this and the CB 19 scenario is also an arguable based on our most recent testing we're finding polymer fiber graphene in our range of both of the use for biological carrier got you said for three days with the initial scene outbreaks how much overlap is there in these issues and again if we hide from the VACs we still can't hide from the air we breathe so the day goes back a long, long way, and even the documents you outline from the 70s that pretend that
Starting point is 00:10:33 we could, may, might have to geoengineer someday. It had already been ongoing for over 30 years deployed immediately after World War II. So there's a lot of smoke and mirrors on this issue. They're trying desperately to hide this from public view. And it's obviously why. Because public would, I would argue, take the streets of a river pitch for it. If we knew that their government was doing this to them and it's not a warfare, DEL, it's magical war. All right, and I just want to let everyone know out there that you have managed to live completely. You're off the grid now. I mean, that is something that's spectacular for a lot of our audience.
Starting point is 00:11:08 It's a dream. So the internet is a little bit in and out. You're breaking up a little bit. We can deal with it. But this is what it's like talking to someone that literally is putting his money and his efforts where his mouth is. You're off grid. I just wanted to point that out for some of the things that are breaking up here. Now, Dane, this morning, as I was getting up,
Starting point is 00:11:27 I have a small project in my house, and my contractor looked up in the sky and said, oh my God, they're not starting it again this morning, and this is what I looked up. I shot it with my cell phone. There it was. These lines being drawn in the sky that literally happened this morning, and I said to him, it's ironic that you are pointing that out because I am going to be talking about that on the show today. And I said, in all honesty to him, Dane, I'll be honest, I'm not convinced that every time I see a trail that's out there in this case, what we call chem trails, that that is actually a chem trail
Starting point is 00:12:03 that is designed to make clouds or whatever it is or poison me. I'm just not sure. And so that's where I'm coming to you at right now. So to begin this conversation, what is the difference between a con trail, which is condensation that comes from a plane and a chem trail? First, let's examine what condensation normally does, Del. If we see researchers, for example, in Antarctica and their breath is condensing, if they're standing around in an area for half hour, do we see a cloud hanging above their head that keeps getting larger and larger? That's not what condensation does.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Or if you see condensation coming from an exhaust pipe on a car in a very cold day, does that start to form a cloud that lingers and spreads and disperses? That's not what condensation does. So we have up close film footage of these aircraft at altitude, nozzles very, visible turning on and off. That means it's absolutely a dispersion too. We know all military tanks and all carrier are equipped with bypass turbofan jet engine.
Starting point is 00:13:08 It's a jet powered fan. That engine is by design nearly incapable of producing any condensation trail except under rare and extreme circumstances because 90% of the air that moves to that engine is not combusted. So the whole condensation trail narrative has been a massive perpetrated on populations all over the world. And that clip you just showed a moment ago
Starting point is 00:13:30 of the World War II B-17 bombers, these massive traitors, moving everything we see in this guy's connotation. They've been laying the groundwork for this program. We've pulled up, and it's on part of that film clip, a archival military footage of one B-17 filming another in formation. And the aircraft that was filming, The trails were shut off instantaneously and completely,
Starting point is 00:13:58 as if they've been cut with a knife. Did that plane fall from the air? No, it didn't fall from the air. Because they were beta testing in World War II. There you go, thank you. There's on you, many professional people on your end. So again, we have film footage of these aircraft at altitude, nozzles visible turning on and off
Starting point is 00:14:15 into discussion, it's not condensation. Same elements named in climate engineering batons are showing up in our precipitation. And we took a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration flying lab at tremendous expense, six figures plus, top scientists to altitude, measured with the heavy aircraft remitting, found exactly what we knew we'd find, starting with aluminum nanoparticles, primary element named in climate engineering patents. So again, there's no legitimate denial of this issue.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Okay, all right, so then let me ask you this. Is there, there are, there are contrails, but you're saying that they disperse quickly and that chem trails are what lingers. So are you saying that every single line that I see in the sky is a plane that has giant tanks inside of it that are releasing these chemicals into our, you know, upper atmosphere, you know, 30, 40,000 feet? I mean, is every single time I see that this is, this is these toxic chemicals being atomized in space? with exceptions. Again, even if you see a short, bright trail that seems to disperse, which we see in the high pressure zone scenarios. When there's a high pressure zone, a very little atmosphere of humidity, we will see a different type of dispersion, very bright in many
Starting point is 00:15:35 cases, almost a bluish in some cases. And what we see then is an atmosphere that becomes silvery white. And this, again, is still a dispersion. It's still ionizing the atmosphere. more electrically conductive. Commercial carriers. We are not implicating commercial pilots or commercial personnel, although we are dealing with them. We are sending them our materials, commercial pilots, that they're leaving in lunchrooms covertly to try to wake others up
Starting point is 00:16:00 because they know it's going on. They are not directly involved, but their aircrafts are definitely being used. And again, we know this because we have up close photographs of the retrofit nozzles mounted on the wing pylons, aimed at the exhaust jet stream, to make this look like, quote, condensation, which it definitely is not.
Starting point is 00:16:17 You can't turn condensation on and off. And we look at the amount of materials are short on the surface of the planet. We work with a large institution recognized globally, hundreds of precision samples, and the extrapolation from how much material is in those samples, if we calculate that globally, it appears somewhere in the range of 50 million tons of nanoparticles are being dispersed globally, and nanoparticles being incredibly harmful.
Starting point is 00:16:45 And let me leave it with this, though. When we have the entire global science community, climate science committee, saying that we need to geoengineering immediately. We need to put aircraft in the air to spray light scattering particles to block some of the sun's incoming thermal energy to slow the warming of the climate. And we see everything that they're describing. Everything listed in patents. We have every government the same thing that we need to do this. Why would we think ask our permission before the of course they're not going to and they have it? They've been doing it for decades.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Okay. All right, I was going to try and follow. We have a lot of slides and things that you've sent over, but I'm going to see if I can get my team, and people have to bear with us, because I want to address right where you're at. It was something I was going to get to, but right where you're at. We talk about this dimming of the sky, and by the way, your documentary, which I've watched several times, preparing for this, the dimming, very powerful, lots of grave evidence.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I want to show some of it here. But so to your point, MIT recently, and I think I have a slide. Let's see 40. Here we go. MIT, this is a recent article, December 24th. A startup says it's begun releasing particles into the atmosphere and an effort to tweak the climate. It goes on. A startup claims it has launched weather balloons that may have released reflective sulfur particles in the stratosphere,
Starting point is 00:18:01 potentially crossing a controversial barrier in the field of solar geoengineering. Geoengineering refers to deliberate efforts to manipulate the climate by reflecting more sunlight back in the space, mimicking a natural process that occurs in the aftermath of large volcanic eruptions. In theory, spraying sulfur in similar particles in sufficient quantities could potentially ease global warming. So MIT is doing it. I have a video. We know Bill Gates has talked about. I've made fun of it on the show. This lunatic wants to block the sun, the life-giving energy of Earth and makes Earth inhabitable as we know it. Here's just a little clip on that process. Take a look at this. There is a line of research on what's called geoengineering, which are various techniques
Starting point is 00:18:47 that would delay the heating to bias 20 or 30 years to get our act together. Bill Gates is backing the first high-altitude experiment of one radical climate change solution, creating a massive chemical cloud that could cool the Earth. It's called solar geoengineering and it's highly controversial. It would look something like this. Thousands of planes would fly very high and use nozzles to inject millions of tons of light-reflecting particles into the stratosphere. It would create a thin chemical cloud of those particles around the whole planet, blocking some sunlight from reaching the surface. It would mimic a giant volcanic eruption,
Starting point is 00:19:22 which we know cools the earth. All right, so, Dane, here's the thing for me. This is the difficult day you have. I want to sort of relate it and compare it to when I've seen documentaries or things about UFOs. I will see some blacked out, you know, Air Force specialist that says, I have seen pieces of a UFO that was found in Area 51. I've analyzed it with my own eyes, and that documentary is over, and people like, wow. And then I'll see another documentary, you know, different blacked out Air Force or Navy person saying, there are aliens among us. We've sent some of our people to their planet.
Starting point is 00:19:55 They've got theirs here. We've done autopsies. And I'm like, these two worlds are, you're both like blacked out. You're both sharing me this top secret information, yet there are totally different worlds. And here's my thing. And the point I'm going to make is, Is it happening already? If we are already doing this, why is it a news flash that just, you know, at the end of last year just recently,
Starting point is 00:20:19 MIT is about to try this outrageous experiment? Why is it that right now Bill Gates is making headlines? Because he wants to block out the sun. Why would they be making headlines now about wanting to do it? And I believe the technology is there. I'm sure they could. I know they want to. Yet you've been saying for, I think,
Starting point is 00:20:39 almost decades now, this has been happening all along. That's where I get really where I start having red flags go off. I'm not sure what the red flags are, Dale. I'm not asking anybody to believe me. I never have. I'm asking them to believe what they see with their own eyes. We have film footage, again, of these dispersions being turned on and off at altitude. I don't think comparing it to aliens is a fair comparison.
Starting point is 00:21:04 We're not blocked out. We're not saying we have some film footage, but we're not going to show you. We have film footage, again, that's occurring at altitude. Gates, red flag just pretending and propagating the lie that we could may, might do this someday if we get desperate enough. Same thing with the balloon launch in Baja, California. Is that really a story? Summit, single individual puts a few balloons in the air that might have sprayed, dropped a few pounds of material into the air. These programs are ongoing and happen for decades. I would encourage you and your listeners, perhaps you've seen it, but at the start of every
Starting point is 00:21:38 weekly global alert news broadcast, which we paid for out of pocket. and 21 stations around the country. We show a film clip of President Lyndon Johnson in 1962, 61 years ago, stating on the record, on film then, that we had the power to control the world's cloud layer then, and quote, he who controls the weather controls the world. I have that clip, let's show it to people. Let's go ahead and show it.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Please, thank you. Following your lead, absolutely. It lays the predicate in the foundation for the development of a weather satellite that will permit man to determine determine the world's cloud layer and ultimately to control the weather and he who controls the weather will control the world. I mean, and then that goes the point of where I'm at with this.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I know that that power must be there. I see China's doing it. It is not lost to me that governments will try to, you know, do whatever they can to control the world. And I don't want to be, I'm not mean to be combative here, Dean, but you said bring the hard questions and I have really legitimate questions here, okay? And so I want to bring this point, you know, yes, I have seen your footage. It is shocking when you see the chemtrail start and then it stops.
Starting point is 00:22:56 That to me would be proof that clearly in that experiment they are releasing something. No doubt. But I don't see checkered lines through the sky. What I see are these long lines that go on and on and on. And so I found a document. I want to read this to you. This is the document, folks. It's, yeah, that one.
Starting point is 00:23:15 The Global Research. This is planetary weapons and military weather modification, chemtrails, atmospheric geoengineering, and environmental warfare. Folks, by the way, this document has it all. It tells all sides of it. This is just one little excerpt that I found interesting about this specific thing. What some see as chemtrails, the IPCC, and others recognize as persistent con-trails that are a normal effect of today's jet exhaust.
Starting point is 00:23:41 In the 2006 book, Weather Warfare, Jerry Smith explains that persistent con trails are not necessarily chem trails. From the 1990s on, he explains all jet engines were modified with a high bypass turbo fan, which increased fuel efficiency and, as a side effect, left persistent con trails that hazed into serious clouds after several hours. This is the time frame when chem trail settings begin. Jerry Smith goes on apparently in this book to say that does. rule out that chemtrails are happening, but he is saying a contrail can do the exact same thing. So to that argument, I'm sure you're aware of this argument, what do you say to that? I'm not saying that when they start and stop, you have proof that clearly it does happen, but is it possible for a contrail? They're saying that this new technology, they saw it causing
Starting point is 00:24:32 this problem. I say we compare this to Senator Pandell, who says vaccines are safe and effective. There's no difference between the two. The IPE. The CBCC, the largest scientific panel ever created on any subject in human history is designed specifically for deception of the public. We have the entire so-called medical industrial community and all their so-called experts telling the world, trying to convince populations that vaccines are, quote, safe and effective when they are anything but. Why would we put this in any other category? On the high bypass turbofan jet engine, think of the paradox with what was listed in that document. When you have a fuel-efficient engine and the vast majority of air, 90% that moves through that engine is not combust it. The laws of physics make clear that makes it far less capable of producing any, quote, condensation trail.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Does a fan produce condensation? If you take an air fan to Antarctica and it's moving air, does that produce condensation? Of course not. So again, when we can clear documents like that which you just read, that's exactly comparable to Senator Pan. And everything he says is absolute total deception, which you're so articulately exposed. I absolutely congratulate for that. You're very, very effective at exposing that kind of deception. And the same is true here.
Starting point is 00:25:51 The same is true with the document you just read. Total deception. Okay. Let's get into some of the clips from your documentary, which is powerful. And I recommend that everybody watch it. But there are real geoengineers that exist. Yes, I was shocked to find that anyone named themselves that. Here's just a clip of the types of things that they brag about.
Starting point is 00:26:11 How we engineer the planet. It's about the fact, an uncomfortable fact, but it is a fact, that we have the technical ability to do this. They are all fast acting, they are cheap, and they are fundamentally imperfect. The problems of how you control something where an individual country can have tremendous leverage over the whole planet's climate and where there are winners and losers in ways that really could be unpredictable, and I mean, not to frighten you, but I think you can imagine scenarios that lead to war. Another example is the array of technologies, often referred to collectively as geoengineering, that potentially could help reverse the warming effects of global climate change.
Starting point is 00:26:47 One that has gained my personal attention is stratospheric aerosol injection. There's all sorts of ways you could do this, but the standard idea has always been spray sulfuric acid in the stratosphere, 20 kilometers over our head, and use that to stop the planet warming up. The example many people cite was when the Mount Pinatubo volcano, you know, exploded, and all of this ash went into the air and had a cooling effect on the Earth. And so people have long proposed since the mid-60s that you could artificially add dust
Starting point is 00:27:16 to the stratosphere and cool the planet. Not that this would be a good solution for global warming, it would not. But it does show the way we're steadily developing the powers to manipulate the planet with comparative ease. That sulfur in the lower atmosphere is masking some of the climate warming from CO2. So this is the global dimming or something? Yeah. leading ideas basically to emulate what big volcanoes do, put material in the stratosphere
Starting point is 00:27:41 to reflect sunlight. So the problem is the following. If you add SO2 to the stratosphere, SO2 doesn't condense. So you might want to put alumina in. Aluminate has a very high nature fraction. It's very small. It doesn't coagulate. And you could engineer particles have particular properties.
Starting point is 00:27:54 You can get them of the stratosphere. You can concentrate particles near the poles. Costs are so cheap that the richest people on the planet could perhaps afford to buy an ice age. It's extraordinarily cheap. I knew it was cheap when I found that they were. quoting me in tons. It's also true that particles as they get bigger fall out a lot faster. We sort of step back and then, okay, well, how would you actually make particles in the stratosphere? This is really engineering now. If it was aerosols in the stratosphere, it would likely be put there by airplanes.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Start with a fleet of just two or three kind of modified business jazz. The basic idea is that if you let a plume off on an aircraft by just changing some little details, you can actually get much smaller particle size distributions by doing this kind of spraying. So there are all sorts of side effects. I'll get to them in a second, but, but if you're If you put sulfur acid in the stratosphere, for example, you could deplete stratospheric ozone. Smaller size means more service area, but more service area means less ozone. Oh, is the stuff in the stratosphere going to be killing some number of people that are going to be a sort of sacrificed? It's an obvious concern.
Starting point is 00:28:51 If it kills a million people and we're only doing one percent more, we're just killing 10,000 more people. You can do math. Okay. But that's, so, so killing people is not the objective here. So if I made a decision or if there was a collective, decision to do a geo-insuring program and you put say the kind of program I think makes more sense we put about a million tons a year in but let's say you might end up killing many tens of thousands of people a year as the direct result of that decision and so the only
Starting point is 00:29:20 thing that we can do to cool the planet or that society can do to cool the planet is deploy these sorts of technology and by the way it's not really a moral hazard it's more like free riding on our grandkids and it means there are going to be winners and losers just like there are winners and losers for CO2, but they're different winners and losers. So this makes the problem, if anything, harder to solve. You've introduced another dimension of complexity into the managing the planet's climate problem. All right. I mean, that comes from your documentary, The Dimming, very powerful for folks that want to watch it.
Starting point is 00:29:53 It is free. It's on YouTube. You can also catch it at geoengineering watch.org. Lots and lots of really important information. And clearly there, they're discussing all the things that we would be afraid of. And this guy, Keith, he seems to be a pretty big figure in this whole thing, in dreaming up, atomizing sulfur into the ionosphere, if you will, and one of my least favorite toxins on the earth, aluminum.
Starting point is 00:30:27 It's a terrible idea. and yet clearly they're saying, if we do this, there will be repercussions. And so is that, you know, what they're talking about there, is that what you believe is being done? Is it what are the elements that you think are happening when we're seeing these chem trails? What should we be concerned about it? If it was water, who cares? What is it? First, I want to say to your editing staff, I'm speechless.
Starting point is 00:30:56 They are so professional. Thank you. I'm very, very grateful for their efforts. I don't, I choose not to believe anything. I only look at what I see with my own eyes and what the lab tests have confirmed are there. It's raining down on us in unimaginable quantities. And what David Key stated, the presentation which you showed part of, which I attended, which I was banned from after that conference where I confronted him and that confrontation is in the dimming documentary. After a three and a half hour symposium of him proposing putting tens of millions of top of time, tons of aluminum nanoparticles, the most harmful form of aluminum, the smaller the particle, into the atmosphere annually. I confronted Dr. Keith at that conference. Have you done any toxicological studies whatsoever? He tried to avoid the question saying there's a lot of junk in there anyway, a little more won't hurt, paraphrased. I cornered him again and said that is, those materials in our skies so far is not aluminum. Have you studied aluminum? And his answer, no. Could terrible things happen tomorrow? We don't know. What kind of an answer is that from
Starting point is 00:31:54 a so-called academician? It's the world's most recognized climate. engineer. David Keith is the face of geoengineering disinformation, fueling the false narrative that, gee, we could, may, might do it someday, when there it is glaring in the skies above us every single day. And Del, that's what got me into this fight to begin with. When I built my off-grid home cover of the world's largest renewable energy magazine, solar wind and hydro, and I was losing 60 or 70% of my solar uptake from what aircraft were emitting. That cannot be condensation. So just because we blaze right through that. So let me understand that you are, you know, your energy for your off-grade home is using solar.
Starting point is 00:32:35 You're a solar specialist and you suddenly started recognizing that you're getting less solar energy through your panels than you used to or that you're supposed to. Is that correct? Correct. Not a little less. There were days when just with the aircrafts were emitting 60, 70, even 80 percent decline in solar PV uptake. That doesn't mean you have a 60, 70, 80% loss in visible light, but you're losing direct sunlight, and that's exactly what solar radiation management is designed to do. It's not just my home. We have huge commercial solar plants that are producing half what the rated output was. And this is the condition called global dimming. It's not just affecting solar. It's affecting wind negatively and hydro negatively because of the droughts it creates. So how hypocritical is it, Del, Del, for the so-called environmental groups that are actually. not acknowledging climate engineering and actually in some ways pushing it when it is hugely devastating to all three forms of alternative energy. How hypocritical is that? I agree with you there.
Starting point is 00:33:38 And I know that you consider yourself environmentalists. We could get into a whole other debate on where we sit. This is obviously a broad concept, but I agree with you. And I keep saying to my own family, Bill Gates is your environmental. He is the head of your environmental movement. movement. He's trying to block out the sun. He believes in covering all of your crops with with deadly herbicides and pesticides. He's buying up all the farmland. He doesn't think you can feed enough people with organic food. So, I mean, do you still consider, I say to my family, do you still consider yourself an environmentalist if that's what is defined by? Carbon credit scores and enslaving people to ideas and pushing technologies that may or may not be ready,
Starting point is 00:34:21 all of that. But I don't want to get into that. And I want to keep moving. I'm actually going to skip a video, I will describe it, because there's actually a bigger, more pressing question I have for you. But in your film, you sent, there's a team that goes out, they fly through the clouds, they collect samples of what they saw, what were chem trails. In the cloud itself, you discover aluminum particles in there. And so I want to sort of talk to that. The aluminum is a serious concern for me. It is in vaccines. It's one of the biggest issues we believe with the danger of vaccines and why they're dangerous is aluminum. So again, this is somewhere where we cross over into a space.
Starting point is 00:35:02 First of all, my question would be this. There is aluminum in fuel, in fossil fuels, one of the dangers of, you know, combustible engines and having cars drive all over the places. We're inhaling this stuff, and aluminum is a byproduct that's in the fuel. I have to assume it's also in jet fuel, that there's aluminum in that, the burning of that.
Starting point is 00:35:24 So how can you be completely sure that when you are flying through a cloud and collecting aluminum, it's just not the aluminum that's already a product that we know exists from burning fuel? How do you know that it's an additive that's being released as a chem trail? Because the cloud affluent layer that our samples were taken from was emitted from nozzles on these aircraft, which we have filmed footage of. It's not out of the combustion area of the engine. And the quantity that's showing up on the ground, again, based on our extrapolations, up to 50 million tons, you can't run that much material through engines and have that engine still continue to function. So, again, this is the stated purpose of geoengineering.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Aluminum's the stated material to be used. It's in the patents. It's in our rain. The quantities, again, exceed anything you could run through an engine. Every single dot connects. I want to backtrack to one point DEL that I think is profoundly important. In the video clips that your editor is so professionally put together, they showed not just David Keith, but they showed Kin Caldera, the second most recognized geoengineer in the
Starting point is 00:36:36 planet, former Department of Defense scientists. We have an audio of Dr. Ken Caldera on the record stating what he did for the US DOD was to design ways of spraying pathogens into clouds to infect the population below. In his own words, we have the recording at Geoenginewatch.org. So again, we have Italian researchers, you know that they found COVID-19 attached to airborne particulates. We have 85 countries infected in three days. This is all indicative of an airborne dispersion.
Starting point is 00:37:02 And we know the US DoD routinely tests on innocent populations. Washington Post acknowledged this, 1977. Even as of that date, they acknowledged no less than 239 open-air biological tests conducted by the US military over US populations without their knowledge or consent. This is business as usual. Why would we think they'd ask our permission? Did they ask our permission to detonate 2,400 nuclear bombs, which contaminated everything and everyone?
Starting point is 00:37:27 Back to the why would they do this to themselves? Question. They already have. All right. And I totally agree with you. And by the way, I don't think it's lost on anyone, certainly not in this audience, that they just tested a total experimental vaccine as a failure.
Starting point is 00:37:41 It's dangerous, deadly, all of those things. So clearly our government has no problem testing on us. We've reported on genetically modified mosquitoes, all sorts of stupid ideas that are just unleashed upon us. And so to bring it back and part of the issue and why I'm being so hard here is there may be things happening and clearly, but if I can't prove it in the court of law, Dane, and this is sort of how I see things,
Starting point is 00:38:06 and I want my audience to understand this too. It's not that I'm exactly pushing back because your evidence isn't there, but I'm trying to figure out, you know, if I want to sue, which is something we're really good at with the informed consent action network, What can I sink my teeth into? And so I'll be honest.
Starting point is 00:38:22 When you say we know there's a nozzle on the plane, we have proof of it that's releasing these toxins, can I assume that there's two different things happening? You have seen these nozzles, you have proof of these nozzles, but when you flew the plane through the clouds, you just said that you knew it came from a nozzle. Did you get video footage of that plane's nozzle when it released those clouds? Are you putting two thoughts together? You've seen a nozzle and you've seen a chem trail and then you flew through the chem trail. Do you have evidence that the very chem trail you flew through had a nozzle on that plane?
Starting point is 00:38:54 You can't get that close to a nozzle, Dell, in the air. You can't get that. The air traffic controllers won't let you get that close. But again, how many dots do we have that connect here? And when we have the – just let's stop and think about, again, the entire global science community, climate science community is saying we should do exactly what we see happening. Every government in the globe is saying exactly the same. every constituent shown in climate engineering patents showing up in our precipitation, our snow, our frozen precipitation, which is also another aspect.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Dell, if I could ask before I forget, you were in the big freeze in Dallas, Texas. Were you not? Yeah, I was. I was. It was crazy. It made absolutely no sense. We keep having crazy weather. Believe me, this whole conversation is on my radar.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I just, the level of evidence that I can get there and do something about it is what I'm trying. trying to find, you know, how we get there. But okay, go ahead. Okay, let's keep in mind. You can have a 50-year chain smoker that dies of lung cancer, and you'd have a hard time making that argument in court. Just the same with the vaccines, the same scenario. I have been there.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Right. In the case of what you brought up earlier, the Chinese in their acknowledgement of their weather modification activities, I encourage your listeners to search this. Chinese scientist engineer snowstorm, openly covered, Fox News, MSNBC, popular science that they engineered what should have been arranged, event over Beijing and turned it into a frozen precipitation event exactly what's happening right now in the U.S. with winter storm, quote, olive, where we have moisture coming out of the record warm Gulf of Mexico, much like what happened in Dallas, Texas, a year and a half, or almost two years
Starting point is 00:40:30 ago now. And then it's nucleated with chemical ice nucleating elements. They're in the snow, the frozen precipitation. We test it so we know. And that's how you get temperatures to drop 75 degrees in a matter of hours, as we just recently saw in Denver, from 50 plus of above the 24 blow in a matter of hours. That is not nature. That's chemical ice nucleation for weather modification. This is nothing short of weather warfare. We have the patents.
Starting point is 00:40:56 We have the acknowledgement of the Chinese government doing it. And if they're doing it, why would we think our government's not doing it? When we have a military that's bigger than the next 10 biggest militaries combined. I agree. Our military has three times more tankers, the jet aerial tankers, our military has three times more than all other militaries on the planet combined. All right. Let's get into that for a second because we're sort of moving into you just said warfare.
Starting point is 00:41:21 You use that point. Clearly, that is how our world unfortunately looks at things. This is a clip where you have a scientist talking about how the paint used in stealth and how we use metals is actually a way that we could change our atmosphere and do things. Take a look at this. Some of this technology actually came out of the stealth program. Stealth was the idea that you would try to reduce the amount of radar energy that would be reflected off of an aircraft. You could put particles of metal into the paint itself. These particles would then absorb the energy.
Starting point is 00:41:58 But if you put that up into the air and then you broadcast a signal that is tuned to the exact frequency that matches the size, and this is the key, all of these particles are the same exact size, so they respond to a specific frequency. So when you transmit this frequency, you can get all those particles to heat up. And if that massive air has moisture and in any kind of humidity at all, it all rises and expands. So this is how you can actually generate a weather system. All right, so this is really interesting, the idea that, you know, beyond just this idea of putting a layer around the Earth, and I've read books, lots of different climate engineers believe that they may be a future. We're having discussion if it's happening now or not.
Starting point is 00:42:41 now or not, but this is how it would work. This gets into this idea of harp, right? Because once these particles are in space, in your documentary, you really lay out, then how would you push them around, move them around, just so that I can prove this is real. I'm going to play the video in a second. We looked up harp, and actually, let's play the video. Let's play the video first from the film.
Starting point is 00:43:03 This is the definition of harp. In 1985, Bernard Eastland applied for patents. Many claimed that these patents have become the blueprint. for HARP, High Frequency Active Aurora Research Program. HARP is a large antenna where we beam radio frequency energy up into the upper atmosphere. Applications discussed in the patents included destroying missiles. Communications, control, and disruption were included. There were some other ideas both to possibly modify weather.
Starting point is 00:43:38 What we can do with an antenna is change. the portion of the sky into which we insert the energy. Hark's combined antennae generate a focused billion-watt high-frequency radio beam which penetrates the lower ionosphere and interacts with the currents of the auroral electrojet. In certain applications the military acknowledges that it can literally lift the ionosphere and what they say is it's not a problem, it's a short period of time,
Starting point is 00:44:05 yet when you lift the ionosphere up the lower atmosphere rushes in and fills that void, which changes localized weather patterns. At its biggest size suggested, if you beamed it for an hour and a half, that would equal the energy in a hydrogen bottom. HARP is only one installation of perhaps 100 that are on that scale around the globe. You can create high pressure domes in the northern hemisphere.
Starting point is 00:44:34 That creates a clockwise spin, just like the pulley. That allows them to steer the upper level winds. into nearly any configuration they wish. So the areas that are under that high pressure dome fry. They fry. Take a look at that round bubble. Is that not telling? That's a high pressure dome parked right over the top of us
Starting point is 00:44:59 that ensures nothing, nothing can flow in. You would never see this meteorologically 20 years ago. Never. All right, well, as I was saying before, or we wanted to see is this harp thing mythological in existence or does it really exist? I've obviously heard a lot about it, but when we looked it up, it's still there. This is their own website, is now at the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, at least that's who we're being told, is in charge of it. This is a quick little paragraph they have on the site.
Starting point is 00:45:27 The high-frequency active auroral research program, or harp, is a scientific endeavor aimed at studying the properties and behavior of the ionosphere. The ionosphere stretches roughly 50 to 400 miles above Earth's surface, right at the edge of space, along with the neutral upper atmosphere, the ionosphere forms the boundary between Earth's lower atmosphere where we live and breathe and the vacuum of space. Operation Research Facility was transferred from the United States Air Force to the University of Alaska Fairbanks on August 11, 2015, allowing harp to continue with exploration of ionospheric phenomenology via a land-use cooperative research and development agreement. So this thing exists. It's there. Now, Dane, look, I am with you.
Starting point is 00:46:13 It is clear. I have scientists that are slamming, you know, protons together under the ground in, you know, Europe could cause a black hole. I mean, there's nothing stopping what I guess would say a geek that is onto something. And if you could move the weather or create patterns, I have to believe they're doing it. And I keep thinking as you're talking, you know, how often, you know, the idea of, you know, cloning an animal is a discussion while we find out later they were already doing it, right? And that's part of what you're saying. They talk about the science as though it's somewhere in the future, but clearly the funding is going into them doing it right at that time. So that's in the back of my head.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Now, how does harp work? And you're saying they have these things all around the world. You sort of describe they heat the ionosphere and somehow that puts you. and creates a higher ceiling that creates sort of a vacuum? Explain that to me exactly. Like, how does this technology, how do they use it? I'll get right to that. I want to make clear that the smoke and mirrors of the University of Airbanks being in charge of that antenna rate is absolute smoke and mirrors nonsense.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Again, it's just the same as the medical industrial field doing whatever the matrix controllers tell them to do. The same situation with heart. and mirrors designed to throw the public off the beaten path. Harp can put out 3.5 million watts of power that can be concentrated into a beam that can be up to a billion watts or more of power. When it is beamed into the electronically charged ionosphere, it causes an electrical chain reaction which superheats that portion of the atmosphere so much so that it can cause a bulge in the atmosphere up and down.
Starting point is 00:47:58 The upward bulge militarily is stated for the use of creating resistance for an income coming ICBM, intercontinental ballistic missile. But the downward push dell forms a high pressure heat dome, much like you just showed the diagrams for. That's part of what has blocked precipitation from the US West for so many years. The meteorologists have termed this, the quote, ridiculously resilient ridge,
Starting point is 00:48:21 as they pretend they don't know anything about any of this. And why wouldn't our meteorologists speak out? I just want to make sure we don't miss this point. There's an illegal federal gag order on all the nation's weathermen, national weather service, and National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration, why would our government feel the need to gag the weather?
Starting point is 00:48:36 I have that gag order just to prove your right. Let's bring it. Do we have that? Or did I cut that slide? I know we had it. Here it is. This is what he's talking about. This is the public employees for environmental responsibility,
Starting point is 00:48:46 weather service employees, tethered by illegal gas orders. It goes, oh, gag order. Organization planning, the confidentiality order forbids disclosure of anything about the weather service organization, workforce analysis, which has the effect of musling, any revelations about agency planning and the rhapsation. for planned actions. Collective bargaining, the National Weather Service has just added a confidentiality clause to its ground rules for collective bargaining agreement,
Starting point is 00:49:09 negotiations, which requires that all information about the CBA bargaining process must be held confidential. And you know what? You have a great clip, and I think this would be a good point when you think about being muzzled. We know that things get censored in MySpace. It's censored in years. There's a couple of news anchors every once in a while that let it leak out. This is a great little video, people. Check this out. We've been dealing a lot with some military activity in terms of chaff anyway, and that's something that I experienced for the first time yesterday. That was a whole lot of fun. And that's where the military just basically dumps some of the tiny particles of plastic or metal mylar into the atmosphere.
Starting point is 00:49:46 And when you see this kind of a pattern like this, you can wrap the shirt, there's something going on. They're actually a little bit of magnetic and little bitty strips of whether it's aluminum. Then you see these bands of very distinct cloud cover moving in. the region. That is not rain, that is not snow. Believe it or not, military aircraft flying through the region dropping chaff. Small bits of aluminum, sometimes it's made of plastic or even metallicized paper products, but it's used as an anti-radar issue and obviously they're up there practicing. Now they won't confirm that, but I was in the Marine Corps for many years and I'll tell you right now, but that's what it is. I mean, that's hysterical that that is getting out. Obviously,
Starting point is 00:50:29 they didn't get the memo. But I want to get to in your documentary, I think one of the most compelling things is where you show these clouds that have these really hard edges to them. When we look on radar, that absolutely makes no sense whatsoever. Clouds that are sitting in perfect square lines like that.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Now, is that a part, am I putting two things together correctly? Is that particles in the air now being pushed by this harp technology? Not just HARP, but also the NXRAD system, which is a ground-based network of transmitters that are used to steer weather systems, and including hurricanes. Again, I want to say to your staff, I am completely shocked at their professionalism and how much work they put into this. Thank you so much. So we have in the case of, for example, Hurricane Ian or Nicole or Harvey, we recorded the interaction of these transmitters.
Starting point is 00:51:29 and their effect on holding those systems in place and steering them. So the spawning of the hurricanes is another issue completely. We have waters as warm as we have around the globe. Certainly nature can spawn them as well, although they can augment that with the pressure zone manipulation that we just described. But once they're near shore, they are very steerable, and we have absolute inarguable recordings of these interactions of the transmitters steering the storms. So in the case of Hurricane Harveydale,
Starting point is 00:51:56 how did the so-called weather forecasters, which are simply scripted, simply script readers. They're reading scripts that are passed down to them from ultimately Raytheon and Lockheed Martin. Those two private defense contractors that are neck-deep in climate engineering operations do all the weather modeling for the nation's weathermen. Think about that. You have the foxes running the Hindenhouse's passing this schedule weather script all the way down to the local meteorologist. So in the case of Hurricane Harvey, they knew seven days in advance it was going to go where it went and park there and deluge that entire region. How could they possibly know that unless it was the schedule weather and if your listeners search geoengine watch.org
Starting point is 00:52:31 Hurricane Harvey look at the video, decide for themselves. We painstakingly recorded these interactions of the transmissions in the storm. It's inarguable. Hurricane Ian the same. Hurricane Nicole the same. Hurricane Michael, we have a number of these videos. So the bottom line is their ability to manipulate the weather systems now are near total. And we have military documents like owning the weather by 2025. U.S. military documents are very cool. I have that document. Let me read that. I have that document. Let's pull that up. This is the Air Force, folks. This is owning the weather, 2025. Here's just an excerpt from it. In 2025, U.S. aerospace forces can own the weather by capitalizing on emerging technologies and focusing development of these technologies to warfighting
Starting point is 00:53:15 applications. Such a capability offers the warfighter tools to shape the battle space in ways never before possible. It provides opportunities to impact operations across the full spectrum of conflict and is pertinent to all possible futures. The purpose of this paper is to outline a strategy for the use of a future weather modification system to achieve military objectives rather than to provide a detailed technical roadmap. This is a huge document, but that's just an excerpt from it. It's there. You're right about it. But here's the question that follows what you just said. You are saying that these hurricanes are being manipulated. They're hitting our coast.
Starting point is 00:53:53 I understand a weapon. If you told me that hurricane that hit Japan or Germany or something, somehow we are waging war, but why would we be waging a weather war on our own country? How does that make any sense? Really important question. Thank you. And I think this is the point where the American population needs to wake up to the fact that they are not only expendable to those in power,
Starting point is 00:54:17 but a rapidly increasing liability in the COVID-19 Vax program should be a glaring red flag of that. That we are a liability to those in power and they are trying to call the herd as rapidly as they can at this point. The biosystems of the planet are imploding, fisheries are imploding, plankton are imploding, insect populations imploding, wildlife populations imploding. Those in power are concerned about their welfare, not anybody else's, and they are trying to thin the herd. So again, if the American population still at this point believes that those who actually control the American government care at all for their welfare, for their posterity, it's time to wake up. We are a liability to those in power, nothing less. All right, I'll leave that sink where it may.
Starting point is 00:54:59 My audience struggles with me on this because I still, I do. I say all the time it doesn't seem like our government. There's certainly not working our best interest. Every story I've said today, fluoride, you name it. You know, we are being poisoned all the time. this idea that they're doing it to kill us off. In this situation, the argument, though, is always been the one that's harder for me.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I understand how vaccines could be used as a weapon very easily because you can spot hits very specific groups. You could pick a city, you could pick a county and just give them a different vaccine that sterilizes and nobody else. If I created it, I know I'm just going to avoid that vaccine. Bill Gates maybe does or does not take a vaccine. he's promoting, that makes sense. But when you're messing with the weather,
Starting point is 00:55:44 when you're putting aluminum in the air, if that's what they're doing, Bill Gates is breathing that. These morons are breathing their own attack. They're attacking their own cities. The weather's hitting them. So how do you answer that? This is one of my biggest hang-ups.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Why would they be doing it to themselves? I don't see them walk around in gas masks. I don't see them. So why would they be attacking themselves? Let's address that. First, we have to look at it. look at this as they do. They look at it as a risk to risk scenario, the risk of doing it versus the risk of not doing it. They will do anything to retain their power and control. So let's backtrack
Starting point is 00:56:21 again to the 2,400 nuclear weapons that have been detonated all over the world that contaminated every single individual that is in control, the matrix, those who print the money, the same individuals that are behind the vaccines, contaminated all of them. You have a population that does not want to change their behavior, does not want to acknowledge the damage being done to the planet, and the paradigm that's been created by those who created the matrix, i.e. the money printers. So they feel that they have no other choice but to continue to use the weather as a weapon. And think about this, Del. This is the crown jewel weapon of the military industrial complex in so many ways
Starting point is 00:56:54 because they can bring populations to their knees. They can crush food supplies, and they are definitely doing that. We're seeing systematic impacts on agricultural production regions all over the globe from climate engineering. They can control populations without those populations ever even knowing their under assault, not just from the weather, not just from crushing food supplies, but from other elements that are in this spray mix. So many people are in fact, Dell, waking up to the vaccine, are they not? They are. Yes, they don't want anymore. They've had enough. So that attempt at assault has run its course, but we cannot hide from what's being sprayed in the atmosphere. And those in
Starting point is 00:57:31 power may likely have forms of chelation, heavy metal chelation specifically that we're not given access to. And we know one facility in Germany that does this, pulls the blood from the body, Kylates the entire blood flow in an individual. And this is a method they could exempt themselves from some of the consequences. They would know what else is in the mix that they might be able to exempt themselves from. So the bottom line is this train is off the rails. They are not going to let go with their power. And I think we need to look at this still like a cancer.
Starting point is 00:57:58 This is a matrix cancer of control. Does a cancer intend to kill its host? No. But a cancer does intend to proliferate unchecked until the host eventually dies. These people are power addicts. They're not going to let go over that power. And climate engineering, again, is a covert weapon that they are using every single day,
Starting point is 00:58:16 whether it's flash freezes, flash droughts, flash floods, to bring populations to their knees, to manipulate populations. Those populations have no idea they're under assault, and they're not about to let go of this weapon, regardless of the consequences, and I'll leave this final note. Psychoanalysis of those in power, common thread, common characteristic, and it's this,
Starting point is 00:58:36 a near total lack of comprehension as to the consequences, consequences of their actions even to themselves, and that's straight from the manual. You know, I would agree that that has been my assessment in working in this vaccine space and with in science in general. I mean, I've now, you know, got well over a decade in my own investigations of science, whether working for CBS, and I would say that scientists in not putting them down, they do great work, but I now used to consider them the smartest, you know, people among us. I guess if reading books and and looking through a microscope,
Starting point is 00:59:11 but in the whole grander scheme of things, they have absolutely no intuition. They have no sight outside of. I now picture scientists as that's all they do, is they look at something through a little microscopic space, and that's their entire understanding. They don't care about the ramifications for what they do, and they actually believe, when I've asked them,
Starting point is 00:59:31 that the problems, that whatever problem they're fixing in their little myopic world, any problem that's created by their fix is some other scientists' responsibilities. So it really does back that up. You know, but you said, weather modification as a weapon, whether it's ice storms or droughts, and we can look at deserts and nations that are in drought.
Starting point is 00:59:53 But very recently, there's a video that has gone viral that I think is incredibly fascinating. This is just one senator, I believe she's a senator in Romania, but this is what she had to say, and we checked to make sure that this was translated correctly, not our video, but, Is it possible that earthquakes could be caused, folks, take a look at this. Stima, sir, Senators,
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Starting point is 01:02:49 accusations she's making but a lot of very interesting anecdotal stories she's talking about
Starting point is 01:02:56 a lack of an epicenter we did see hundreds I think it was earthquakes after shock all through Turkey. In your perspective, does your thinking go this far? Could they use these weather
Starting point is 01:03:10 modification tools to cause an earthquake? I would bet my last dollar on it. And Dell, I have so much respect for you. You do not pull punches. Thank you so much for even exposing this aspect as well. And we have covered this at G-Jongering watch. Let's look at some of the data based on this from institutions like MIT, Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Let's backtrack to the 2011 Japanese earthquake. Your listeners can look this up, and I encourage them to do so. MIT atmospheric heating, Japanese earthquake. MIT acknowledged what they call extremely anomalous atmospheric heating directly above the epicenter for three days prior to that quake. That is exactly the signature we would expect to see with infrared emissions. If an ionosphere heater signal was being bounced off the atmosphere, which they can do now with the reflective particulates, as you showed in the diagram earlier, and they can beam that back down into the strata in a seismically sensitive zone
Starting point is 01:04:04 causing not just heating, but vibration. And those tremors can fan out and expand, causing a reverberation. And this is scientifically accepted phenomenon. This is not speculation. It's not fringe. So let's look at other examples. The Christchurch earthquake in 2016, John Kerry flies in during an election. What's he flying around the world for during an election? He flies into Christchurch, flies to Antarctica, where there's another ionis per heater in Antarctica, flies back to Christchurch, pulls our diplomats out hours
Starting point is 01:04:36 before the massive Christchurch earthquake hits. Is New Zealand not in the hip pocket of a globalist with the vaccines and everything else in their hip pocket? Same with Japan. Japan was starting to ally with its regional partners before the quake. After the quake, absolutely right back in the U.S. hit pocket. There's Haiti, there's Chile.
Starting point is 01:04:54 These examples go on and on and on. Diplomats being pulled out, hours before the quakes hit. This technology is absolutely real, scientifically verifiable. Encourage your listeners to dig deeper on this issue. This weapons like harp are a weapon of mass destruction, period. And there is no question about this technology doing exactly what you described, exactly what this Romanian governmental official described. So again, it's not coincidence that Turkey basically told
Starting point is 01:05:22 NATO to leap and they'd had enough and then diplomats were pulled out I believe from 10 different countries in Turkey days before this quake hit and the quake hits. This is not some free coincidence, though. You know, it's, I mean, I'm sure we've covered, I'm sure my audience right now has covered the map on where they're at with this. I mean, some of this is so hard to accept or even fathom that these things exist. But as I said in the beginning, If we had this technology, if we had it, I know we would use it. And if we were onto something all the way back when Lyndon Johnson was celebrating, this was the future that he was dreaming of,
Starting point is 01:06:04 why would we have gotten off of it? I mean, this is where I'm at. Like, why would you get off of that? Clearly, weather would be the greatest weapon that could be used because how do you prove it? And, you know, it's silent. It, you know, what it can do, you know. your documentary gets into all of this. I have a few more clips,
Starting point is 01:06:23 but really, I want to wrap it up because I want people to go and watch your documentary. They should, you have so much evidence that's there. You know, whether or not, you know, this turkey, I mean, I think we all, here's what I'm at. I mean, clearly, you've got me to the point where I have to say I have to be critically aware that things do not add up correctly.
Starting point is 01:06:46 I know the psychology of my government. I know the psychology of scientists. I know the psychology of our regulatory agencies, none of which seem to be working in our favor. And the biggest thing for me is when you're being censored, when you're being called a conspiracy theorist or they're saying that's a crazy idea and mainstream media gets it behind that,
Starting point is 01:07:08 that's exactly where we should be looking, it seems to me. So to wrap this up, Dane, You know, there's a lot of really diabolical information here. And it just seems so beyond anything we can do anything about. And I'll be honest, you know, you and I are very similar. I feel like I was, you know, a lone voice shouting from a mountaintop when I really stumbled into the science around vaccines and I felt like I had a whistleblower the CDC.
Starting point is 01:07:38 I could prove, you know, that a fraud had taken place and that set me off on a journey that I have not let go of. but vaccines, I always felt like at least this is something I can prove, I believed I could prove it's injuring people. Your issue is so much harder because I don't have a parent that says I was healthy today or my kid was healthy today or my doctor saying I was healthy today. I got the vaccine. I'm sick the next day. It's so much more vast.
Starting point is 01:08:08 When you do this work, you must be doing it for a reason. You must be hoping something can be achieved here. what the hell can we do about this if it's at the level that you're saying we're at our paths have been very similar Dale and when I started this journey some 20 plus years ago I only heard my own voice coming back at me but now now because others realized that they're going down in the same ship with me others like Air Force Generals two of which are in the video the dimming former Canadian Minister of Defense former US presidential cabinet members former government scientists former
Starting point is 01:08:45 premier of British Columbia and many, many others, now knowing that their futures, their posterity's future also depends on stopping this willful destruction, not just to the planet's life support systems, not just to our weather and climate systems, but to the air we breathe. It's literally contaminating the entire web of life from the clouds to the ground. We're testing food crops full of aluminum. We know that the aluminum's killing tree boots, so we have tree fall happening all over the globe. We have trees dying. We have crops imploding. It's affecting literally every aspect of the planet's life support system. So as we bring this to light, as we reach a critical mass of awareness and people realize they are in fact fighting for their lives,
Starting point is 01:09:23 even those within the system realize they are participating in their own demise. I would argue only then by that critical mass of awareness, can we have a chance of stopping these programs Dell from the inside out? And the difference with this issue with climate engineering, it's in front of the grill every day. It's not in the rearview mirror. It's in front of the grill getting bigger and worse by the day as the climate system implodes and they, and they, ramp up these systems so they can't hide it much longer and I would argue when they can't hide it Dell they're going to play even bigger cards they could spray Ebola they could spray marbury hemorrhagic fevers they can spray anything they want on us anytime they want we have to
Starting point is 01:09:58 deal with this issue or we're not going to be around much longer and that's a mathematical statistical facts so again if we can reach a critical mass deal I would argue we'd have a chance of stopping it from the inside out I was talking to some scientists that have helped me on the work that I've doing and they have a question and one of them had a question for you that I want to ask you because I want to know how to help, but it comes down to this and maybe there's a space here, but you're doing all this research, Dane, and in it, why are, why am I not seeing, or am I not seeing, can you point me to, why are you not getting peer-reviewed, you know, publications in journals to discuss all of these things you're talking about, the effects on trees, the aluminum
Starting point is 01:10:37 sampling that you're catching? I mean, you have videos of it. What's keeping you from going that step to getting it published in in important you know environmental journals and things like that the same thing that keeps the medical industrial community from publishing the fact that vaccines are killing people vaccines are causing autism a 40,000% increase in boys I believe from one in 10,000 to 70s you know this figure's better than me to 1 in 25 today same scenario they control the entire matrix there is in fact two peer-viewed studies now on the geoengineering destruction of the ozone layer and the geoengineering is being used with cofly ashes of base material.
Starting point is 01:11:18 There's two studies, but several studies have been rescinded immediately as soon as they came out, they put that fire out because they control the entire system. And we know about whistleblowers in general, anybody who actually have inside knowledge, we can ask Julian Assange about how well that went for him doing what he did. So, but I would argue again that the scientific community would show him very little courage so far. And I've been in the field with top California state officials that I know personally, you USDA scientists that I know personally acknowledging.
Starting point is 01:11:46 They acknowledge to me in the field that these programs go on, but they will not say a word because they don't want to lose their paychecks and pensions or worse. So we have a system that's controlled by that type of per string manipulation and outright threats. And we have a government that's totally corrupt. I know you know that as well as anybody on the planet. Who is the last honorable government official, Paul Wellstone, who his whole family was taken out? That's the last honest official that I know of. So again, they control the entire system,
Starting point is 01:12:15 but they can't hide this issue much longer. The life support systems of the planet are imploding. Climate engineering is a big reason why. Not the only reason, not saying that, but I'm saying that they've done so much damage in 75 years, and they can't hide that much longer. It's a non-linear equation. We are going to hit the wall.
Starting point is 01:12:32 They are chemically nucleating winter weather now. That's why we see these temperature swings of 50, 75 degrees in a day. This is not nature. It's so severe at this point, Dell. I would say in the coming weeks and months, they won't be able to hide this issue any longer and then we should be ready for anything,
Starting point is 01:12:48 including this, Del, I'll leave it with this. We have open discussion in certain portions of the US government for using nuclear bombs to put enough particulate matter in the atmosphere because climate engineering isn't going to keep up with what's happening to provide temporary cooling. If they do that, we're done. And they're openly discussing that,
Starting point is 01:13:05 nuclear bonds to help cool the planet. Yeah, the stupidity goes really deep. All right, Dean, you will walk around you haven't turned to Howard Hughes you know you're not walking around in a space suit is there any tricks that you do or things that you do that maybe for our audience you know you know to handle your health is there anything that we should be thinking about that we can do to protect ourselves in some level from what is in the air and that could be just environmental pollutants but
Starting point is 01:13:34 you know what do you do to stay healthy in this crazy world we live sir certainly have an environmental particulate pollution from any sources we're not denying that but as far as atmospheric particulates of the most harmful elements climate engineering single greatest source don't go out and exercise in anything but completely clear skies if you do you might as well smoke a pack of cigarettes or worse and your listeners can go outside in a dark night if they're aerosol spraying it's hazy skies take the brightish light you can find aim it at the sky and look vertically up through that shaft of light you'll be shocked it looks like it's snowing and we're breathing that recent scientific study states now that we may be breathing as much as 20 million
Starting point is 01:14:12 nanoparticles in every single breath. That's inconceivable, but you have to consider how small these nanoparticles are. You can fit 100,000 across the width of a human hair. Don't exercise in this, exercise inside, filtered air, constant chelation, and even elements we need anyway. Vitamin C, calcium, elements that are necessary can help to chelate. There's other chelation forms. You have to do it carefully under supervision. Please seek advice on that, but we have to constantly keep these elements moving through our system and not building up. They're very bio-accumulative in the case of aluminum especially. So keelation, avoid breathing, especially exercising in this type of air, and bottom line, we have to fix this. We can't mitigate it any other way. It has to stop or we're done.
Starting point is 01:14:58 And there's many other layers again. The biological aspect can't be overstated either, though. Dane, I want to thank you for all the time you've dedicated to this issue. I know, I know it hasn't been easy, you're attacked all the time. As a brother that, you know, as you said, very similar issues in how we've had to handle it. You have so much evidence on your website, so I want to make sure that people go and check out geoengineeringwatch.com, I mean, dot org.org.org, sogeoengineering watch.org. You can look at all information, and obviously donate to the work. I'm sure, you know, Dane could always use your help. Dane, I want to say, you know, You know, let's get together outside of here.
Starting point is 01:15:41 If there's lawsuits that can be brought, if I can get some scientists involved that maybe would be bold enough to get some publishing done, let's have that conversation on our time. I want to help any way we can expose it. I know these people are crazy that are running the world. I plan on winning. I plan on, you know, I'm here for the species,
Starting point is 01:16:01 I'm here for the earth. I know we're in that fight together. I want to thank you for your dedication. I want to thank you for taking your time to some really difficult questions. questions today. There's more. We can get into this more. Maybe we'll have you on again, but I want to thank you very much for being here. Brother Dell, the gratitude is mine. I am so grateful to you, your staff,
Starting point is 01:16:22 at the work you put into presenting this issue. I'm truly speechless. So you guys have gone above and beyond. Thank you so much. I'm here for anything, anytime. And yes, I will continue this fight. I will never abandon my post, as I know you will never abandon yours. And we will yet pull back the curtain and expose the insanity. We march together in this battle. Thank you, Dell. All right. Take care, Dane.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Thank you.

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