The Highwire with Del Bigtree - THE ATTORNEY TAKING ON THE FDA AND UNCOVERING FAUCIS EMAILS

Episode Date: January 23, 2022

ICAN Attorney, Aaron Siri, Esq., joins Del in studio to talk about some of his landmark legal victories including his recent win against the San Diego Unified School District’s vaccine mandate for students, and the much publicized success challenging Pfizer to hand over it’s documents and data that led it the Covid vaccine approval.#AaronSiri #SDUSD #PfizerDocs #PfizerDocumentDump #FauciEmailsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

I have a lot of bravado, no doubt about it. I know I get really passionate about these things. There is, you know, really mundane and quiet, thoughtful science, always taking place behind the scenes. Part of what gives me the confidence to come out and make statements like I made, like, let's go out and catch this cold. It's not lost on me that I'm going to be attacked. It's not lost that they're going to put headlines.

But I am so confident about the scientists, many of whom you don't know. We have anonymous scientists from major universities and places all around the world that are anonymously reporting to us that have us on the right track. We are not taking the narrative from an expert like Tony Fauci that's never treated a single human being in his life. We're reaching out to hospitals. We've got insiders everywhere. So when I'm here, there's a reason I have confidence.

But there's also something else. I mean, I know everywhere I go, people say, God, Del, you're so courageous. It's amazing how you just have no fear stating the facts. Well, I'll tell you what, one of the big advantages I have that. many people that don't need that don't. And the fact that I'm out here, I know that over time, all that we're saying is going to age well because of how diligent we are with our scientific research. But I might not have all of the confidence that I do if I didn't have the real ace in the

hole. And that ace in the hole is knowing that behind me is a legal protection from one of the greatest constitutional attorneys that has ever walked this planet. He's going down in history before any of the rest of us are. I'm talking about Aaron Siri. And when you get to go and, you know, point at California and say, you want to bring a COVID vaccine mandate, I'm coming after you, which is something like what I tweeted out. Why do I do that? Because I know we have the greatest chance of winning because I know the informed consent action network has Aaron Siri.

And this is him in front of the cameras after our last win just a couple of weeks ago. We have breaking news. Sand Eagle Unified cannot mandate its students to get vaccinated against COVID-19. The judge has just ruled against. enforcing San Diego Unified's vaccine mandate for students. This was the tentative ruling in the lawsuit filed against the district. San Diego decided to unilaterally require COVID-19 vaccine requirement for school children. They did that without any state authority.

They acted on their own. And the judge said correctly ruled that the San Diego school district does not have the authority to require COVID-19 vaccine with students. A local school district simply doesn't have the authority to do something inconsistent with the statewide standards. This latest order lands on the same day that 16-year-old plus students in San Diego Unified were expected to get their second vaccine dose. The judge said if the state doesn't mandate the COVID-19 vaccine, neither can the district. I mean, I can tell you a number of parents came up here right after the hearing, quite emotional, saying thank you.

And my kids go to school now. I am overjoyed. The vaccine mandate that was moving forward. for the San Diego Unified Schools District is on hold or put aside completely pending any further legal action. The ruling today applies statewide. So any other school district in California is thinking or has adopted a COVID-19 vaccine department should really rethink their position right now. You know, if you've been watching the high wire, then you've gotten to see some of the work by Aaron Siri including the infamous Plotkin depositions deposing Stanley Plotkin. I've had

Aaron Siri on before talking about that, but perhaps the most important time to have an opportunity to talk to Aaron Siri is right now ruling by the Supreme Court something that is going to set historical precedent. I'm joined now by one of the greatest humans I've ever met, my brother in arms. You're amazing. And I want to, first of all, thank you for taking this time to join us today. Thank you. I don't want to get into the details of the San Diego case. That one's done. It's out of the way. It's the first official, you know, full win against a COVID vaccine mandate in this country. You were the first to deliver that. But before we get to the Supreme Court, which is I know what everyone's waiting for, I want to go through some of the things

that we've done together because I think it leads into this. And I think one of the, and honestly, you wonder how much behind the scenes is going on with Supreme Court justice is what they know what they don't know. But this case that I think really grabbed the attention and got probably more news than anything else we did. It's not, you know, something that is for I can, but you represented a group of scientists and doctors being led by Dr. Peter McCullough to challenge what you were, you know, you use a FOIA request to try and get all the Pfizer documents that the FDA used to approve the vaccine for the public and, you know, move towards licensure and authorization. It's out there. You asked for it. They said, no, we're not going to give it to

we need 55 years. We don't want to deliver that until 2076. You brought a lawsuit against that. Tell me, and you won, but I want to know the inside scoop. What was it like bringing that case? Where was the judge at with that? It was an incredible hour and a half hearing before the judge. And, you know, as you pointed out, we're heartened that the judge agreed that transparency should rule the day. Yeah. That the FDA should release the documents. And by the way, they did initially. want 55 years based on their initial statement that it was they wanted to produce 500 pages per month but then they up the number of pages at some point that they said they'd have to disclose which brought it to 75 years

given that the average life expectancy of an american's 77 years means they pretty much wanted to wait until everybody in america live today was dead wow before they fully released all of the documents they were out of ponson's license this product a review that they did in 108 days and And why is it craddle to get all the documents? It's because as the scientists, which are now, unconfirized over 200 of them, will tell you that comprise the group that we sued on behalf of, building on the work we do for I can,

until they have all the data, every data set, they don't know whether an analysis they do is going to be accurate. Right. So in order to get outside of the drug company that's making billions of dollars off of this and just trusting their science to get to a place where other outside scientists can begin the process of the scientific method,

which is to see if they can, you know, repeat, let's say, or see if the data holds up to what we're told. That has to be an outside analysis. They didn't, FDA, literally, and this is the thing that's been so discouraging for me in this investigation of vaccines. We know, I always know industry, Pfizer, Moderna, Exxon, whatever it is. My feeling is they always cheat the system wherever they can because they're trying to make money for their shareholders. But the point is that a regulatory agency is there for a reason. They know people cheat. They know that they try to make money over all else.

They're supposed to be the stopgap for that. In this case, the Department of Justice is fighting for the FDA to help Pfizer hide this data from us. Right. If I may put a finer point on it. I don't even know, I mean, they don't even need to cheat. These companies are doing what they're supposed to do. If I do share a duty to their shareholders to maximize profit, that's what they're here to do. Right.

Make money. And here, why it's so important to have independent review of the documents is because we have decoupled the financial interest of Pfizer from its safety obligations. Normally, a company, if they do something that's unsafe, you sue them, or at least they know they can be sued. But here we've decoupled that. And who did that? The federal government, federal health authorities, to be precise, gave Pfizer complete immunity for any injury caused by the Pfizer. COVID-19 vaccine. Not only that, the federal government has been mandating or trying to mandate this product on all Americans, and the federal government has given Pfizer over $17 billion of our money.

It did all those things for Pfizer, and then it said, really, it only made one promise to the American people that I can really think of is at least they promised transparency. The FDA said, we will be transparent when it comes to COVID-19 vaccine, right? Yeah. But that promise wasn't apparently even true, because when they license the product and these scientists ask for all that data, we just talked about it. Yeah. They want to wait until we're all dead before they would fully produce it. It's really troubling, and it really makes you sit back and wonder whose interests do our federal health authorities really have in mind when they go about their daily affairs. Now, can you give me some sense of that hour and a half inside that courtroom?

I know you'll call me sometimes there's hard cases. Sometimes it's a really hard one to win. Was this a hard one to win? Was the judge tough on you? Or was it pretty easy? Because it seems, I mean, for most of us say, what, I mean, the judge is obviously going to stay. Are you kidding me with the 75 years? What was the sentiment of this judge and the energy of it?

Yeah, I think we can get a good sense of that from his decision. Okay. It was well over an hour hearing. and I think the judge who worked at the Department of Justice himself for 20 years. Oh, he did. Who has a good sense of what really goes on in the executive and has been around document productions before. I mean, I could tell you that even our firm, which doesn't have over 18,000 people like the FDA.

Right. It doesn't have a $6.5 billion budget like the FDA. Okay. We've been engaged in lawsuits where we have to produce, and we do produce over 100,000 pages a month. Right. That's not uncommon. The judge knows that.

The judge has been involved in cases like that over when he was probably the DOJ official. So, you know, it's not a question of whether or not the FDA can do it. It's whether they would do it. And given the gravity of what we're talking about here, as the judge himself recognized, I think, let me put it this way. I think the judge understood the gravity of what was being required. It's pretty amazing. He brings up some quotes. I think we've got them in his final decision here. James Madison wrote, A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy. Can't make it more clear than that. John F. Kennedy likewise recognized that a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.

I think that probably well reflects a sentiment in that courtroom that day. Yeah, that's powerful. Yeah. Historic, amazing. You were there.