The Highwire with Del Bigtree - THE BILLION DOLLAR BURDEN OF AUTISM
Episode Date: September 23, 2025Despite legacy media’s attempts to dismiss the importance of prioritizing the chronic disease epidemic in children, medical freedom talking points are moving into the mainstream. One key issue, ofte...n highlighted on The HighWire, is the astronomical financial burden created by skyrocketing autism rates worldwide.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.
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We just saw attacks on Kennedy in the Senate Health Committee.
And they're trying to float this idea that prioritizing an end of chronic health disease in children
is somehow a bad thing.
And you saw a lot of people testifying.
You saw a lot of the senators kind of trying to make these points that this is a threat to public
health. But the center of gravity of the public health discussion has really been taken
out of the corporate media, for the most part, the governments that are attacking as well.
and the farm of lobbyists.
And it's been distributed among the peoples.
And it seems like everyone has a voice now.
And the talking points that you, myself, Aaron,
have been talking about for almost a decade.
It seems to be everybody's talking about them now.
Take a look.
All right.
I would definitely not have mandates for vaccinations.
This is a decision that a physician and a patient
should be making together.
The parents love their kids more than anybody else.
I could love that kid.
So why not let the parents play an active role in this?
There are some states now.
you're seeing an increase in homeschooling because parents are running from the health care system.
This is the problem with vaccines, okay?
You don't get informed consent, even with any vaccine.
You go in and talk to your doctor about the DPT vaccine, or you go in and talk to him about the Hep B vaccine.
But now, by the way, I talked to you about before Hep B vaccine, okay, was given to me when I was, you know, 20 years old or, sorry, 24 years old when I started medical school.
You were an at-risk person because you were dealing with body fluids as a physician.
Correct.
Right, and you can be infected.
But now, in the 35 years since, it's required for every child born in the United States.
Yes, they get one on day, one at birth, they get another one a month later, and they get another one six months later.
And that's because it's a captive audience.
There's a lot of problems because they don't test vaccines in a double-blind placebo-control setting.
They test them against other vaccines.
The problem is that the pharmaceutical drug companies have an exemption.
Because of what they did in the 1980s with Reagan, where they allowed them to never worry about
being sued. And that's when they ramped up the schedule.
You know, Jeffrey, just earlier this week, I had a great meeting with some donors of ICANN on the
high wire and said, you know, are you working in any way to, you know, teach other people how
to do what you do, like clone yourself as Aaron and I. And I think that's evidence right there,
Jeffrey, that we've done that work. It used to be only us with these talking points. We were all
alone. We were the first one censored for talking about medical freedom on Facebook, on YouTube.
But now, you know, you could probably point out 50 to 100 major podcasters that all put this issue of vaccines.
And ICANN's literally our talking points are in the top five discussion points that they're making all the time.
So the message is out there.
It's so exciting.
That was our dream that we would mainstream this conversation.
So it's incredible to see it happening.
And this topic, important as it is, is surging right now, everywhere in America.
And this is probably the most important week since Canada.
Kennedy took the helmet HHS, only because of these conversations that are happening.
It's all coming to a culmination point right now.
And one of the main topics of chronic disease in children is autism.
Kennedy had just a couple months ago made a press conference on autism and the latest numbers,
which were 2022.
And one in 12 children boys have autism in California that was quoted as kind of the best
reporting system.
So a lot of people, including us, have been talking for decades about, we
We have to find a cause of autism.
This is an epidemic.
And we've been met with, obviously, censorship being called anti-vaxxers, but then being called
well, it's just genetics, it's always been here.
And there's been studies that are coming out and have come out that say this will bankrupt
the country if we do not figure this out.
And we were ignored.
The people bringing this up were ignored.
Well, now here are the headlines.
And it looks like we may be here, at least in the UK.
We can't afford so many people with autism and ADHD benefits is the title.
And you go into this article, it says spending on taxis for children with special needs has also doubled in less than a decade to a record high of 2.3 billion pounds in 2020, 2023, 2024.
These costs are threatening to bankrupt more than half of local councils that support children with special needs.
It goes on to say claims for behavioral disorders alone are now fourfold greater than in 2018.
Psychiatrists say we have always had the same share of people with these conditions, but there is simply greater awareness.
I mean, let's just look at that paragraph.
Bring it up.
Look at what we're saying.
What we're saying is they're making more claims that all of a sudden just in the last seven years, people, what they realize, they can make money off of this, claims from behavioral disorders alone, four times greater, fourfold greater than in 2018.
But it's always been here.
It's always just been the same.
But, you know, I mean, it's four times greater the amount of people that are involved.
Where were they?
They didn't want the money back then.
They didn't want help.
They weren't seeking help.
It's absurd that statement.
And I love that it's all that they have.
I love that that's what they're backed in the corner on because it's the world's dumbest argument.
And we know.
So where have we been here?
Where is the science?
We know ICANN has used FOIA requests, has sued in court to get all of this science that shows that vaccines don't cause autism.
We found out that there's really not a lot.
But the science that is being pointed to as the gold standard of science.
It was done in the early two things.
thousands. And this is a couple of them right here. Here's 2002. This is a population-based study of
measles, Monterebell vaccination of autism. They didn't find a connection. Here's 2003. Here's
the thymarisol study looking at the occurrence of autism. Look at the Danish population. Well,
one of the main authors on these studies that have been used to debunk this was Paul Thorerson.
And even in 2003, the New York Times runs with this. Study casts doubt on theory of vaccines
linked to autism. Well, let's look at Paul Thorisand. Dr.
Paul Thorson, well, he's wanted by HHS.
He's a fugitive on the run.
He fled to Germany with almost a million dollars.
Well, he has just been apparently arrested, autism and vaccine scientists arrested for allegedly stealing $1 million from CDC.
The U.S. is now working on extraditing him from Germany to the United States so he can stand trial for this.
This is your gold standard science.
This is your scientific integrity coming from the people that have been paid by the CDC to the tune of almost a million.
And you can read all about his crimes.
They've been going on for some time now.
The Department of Justice has sent out this in 2011.
They've been looking for him.
That's when he fled.
So that's a conversation around vaccines.
The science around vaccines, obviously, vaccines and autism are up in the air.
But you have even the authors are questionable here.
They're literally criminals, fugitives on the run from justice.
It's like the worst, like the guy who study they point to every time they're like, no,
that's been debunked by the.
this important study done by a man who stole money from the CDC, has been on the run and has now finally been arrested.
That's the best you have.
Actually, second best to the guy you put on the stand in front of Senator Ron Johnson,
who brought up 600-something bologna studies to try and disprove that they've never had a placebo trial on any of childhood vaccines
and got absolutely torn apart by Aaron Siri.
So, I mean, we're knocking them down like bowling pins here, Jeffrey.
It's amazing mainstream media even goes near this topic, right?
now because everyone they quote ends up going down.
And minus, you know, some of those clips we're seeing from the Senate help committee going
around that they're saying Kennedy is a threat and public health is in shambles right now.
There's this idea that is permeated.
Again, over this past week, it's just culminated, which is why do we have mandates on vaccines?
And this is in the Daily Mail over in the UK.
And they're throwing this idea out as well.
This is one of the first headlines I've seen from a mainstream publication.
to really suggest this, is this the end of vaccine mandates, they say?
They say, these European nations don't demand jobs, and they're doing just fine.
So remember, we're told, if you don't have mandates, there's going to be disease and pestilence
in the street.
We're going to go back to the smallpox of the 1800s.
Well, it goes on in this article to say in Denmark, where health authorities do not mandate
a vaccine, 93% of children have received two MMR doses in 2024, and 90 to 95% were up to date
on their polio vaccinations.
In Sweden, same thing, no mandates, 93.7%.
percent of children had got two doses of MMR in 2024 and 94.5 percent have received three doses
of the polio vaccine. So that's kind of on its face. There's some real world data, but there's
a study done by asset. This was a nonprofit. And there's analysis. They did the efficacy of
mandatory vaccinations. They actually studied this in several countries. They looked at, well,
does it actually work? And they said this. From 2007 to 2013, the enforcement of mandatory vaccinations
does not appear to be relevant in determining childhood immunization rates in the analyzed countries.
Those where a vaccination is mandatory do not usually reach better coverage than neighbor or similar
countries where there is no legal obligation. So here we are. The idea of states rights, no mandates,
you're seeing that in Florida, and it's probably going to spread to other states as well.
And at the same time, this prepositioning from the corporate media, this is the hill.
And this is actually a really disgusting headline.
It says, an infectious disease has invaded America's public health agencies.
There's a picture of Kennedy, Secretary Kennedy, right there.
So basically, if you look at this at a glance, they're basically calling Kennedy an infectious disease.
They're dehumanizing a government employee.
Okay, that's what the Hill wants to run for their op-ed.
Great.
But the real conversation here is what's happening at ASIP.
This is the reason they're running these headlines.
ASIP, the Advisory Committee of Minimization Practices, is happening right now.
As we speak, they're talking about a lot of things.
One of them is the COVID shots.
And this is one of the headlines coming out of Washington Post.
Trump officials to link COVID shots to child deaths, alarming career scientists.
They're saying that their initial analysis, 25 deaths could be related to the COVID vaccine.
DLU and I both know looking at open veres.
This number is probably much higher, not only children, but also adults.
That conversation is happening right now.
We have the other surgeon general, not Joe Lodipo, but Dr. Ralph Abraham in Louisiana.
He's come out on X to talk about this.
He says the COVID vaccines are dangerous.
He says, I see the fallout in my clinic every day.
Senator Cassidy should remember that the Prep Act gave manufacturers immunity from liability for harms caused by these products.
So they have little incentive to make them better.
Amen.
And so right.
Absolutely.
It's great to hear these talking points.
And they're accurate.
They're factual.
And they shut down a lot of these conversations right away.
So right now, the ASIP committee is talking, they're meeting.
They're talking about the hepatitis B vaccine, which you're
is on the CDC schedule given a day one old babies talking about the mMRV vaccine and at five o'clock
today five o'clock eastern right after our show the committee is going to vote on recommendations for
these vaccines so what that means we don't know could this mean the heppy is taken off the CDC's
recommended vaccine schedule a lot of people are saying that should be it makes I mean and you know
I say this all the time that is the best argument to make to newcomers just walk them right through
the hepatized bee vaccine we've done it a thousand times on this
show FDA licensed vaccines, just typed in right now, go to RACABACCHB, and then show your friends
6.1 where it lays out, you know, five days, safety trials, how long it was, 147 kids.
It's just horrendous for a sexually transmitted disease.
If this thing doesn't get, you know, canceled from the CDC scheduled, I don't know what's
going on.
And we just heard from Amy Bond talking about how California and other states, I mean, they're
already bracing for it.
They're removing themselves from ASIP recommendations, going with the pharma funding.
American Academy of Pediatrics.
Well, you know, let's see how California fair is under those circumstances.
But, I mean, that is, there's a divide happening this country, right?
Those that are waking up to the truth, those that are opening the truth,
those that believe that ASIP has every right to reevaluate vaccines.
I just don't get it, Jeffrey.
It's amazing, right?
Bernie Sanders and all these people, they'll rail against the pharmaceutical industry.
Oh, you know, they'll rail about, you know, they're over-medicating our kids,
But they'll talk about drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs are terrible.
We're taking more drugs, everyone else.
But boy, you call it a vaccine.
And, no, this product's made by angels.
Couldn't have anything wrong with it.
We should never test it.
We should never ask any questions.
You know, it's unbelievable, the dream world that is wrapped around vaccines.
It's just a pharmaceutical product.
Was it good?
Was it not?
Did COVID work?
Does it still work?
Does it still matter?
Is it needed?
Hepatitis B, all of it's on the chopping block.
Thank God.
Thank God. Finally, these questions are being asked for the first time in decades.
And I just want to point out, I mean, I know we're getting this hit squad.
Let's not forget, Jeffrey, that just last week, they basically destroyed direct-to-consumer marketing, right?
The pharmaceutical industry knows its days are numbered.
It only owns the television for a few more seconds.
It's going to try and squeeze every red cent.
It paid those news anchors to try and get Bobby out.
Because if they don't, and suddenly you don't own the television set anymore,
and your commercials are gone because you don't want to have five minutes of side effects being,
you know, spoken out in the commercials, which is what that new executive order says.
So we're seeing it, right?
This is their last ditch attack.
It is a full-on attack going on this week.
And tomorrow will be interesting because tomorrow is when they discuss the safety of the COVID vaccine.
They're probably going to bring up as discussed those 25 children in this reanalysis, the FDA did.
But they're also going to discuss the safety and the further recommendations,
What is that going to look like moving forward?
And we know that President Trump put out the tweet.
It wasn't a tweet actually.
It was on Truth Social.
And he was questioning, is this the right thing?
Was Operation Warp speed great?
I need to know.
We need to know these from Pfizer.
So ASIP may actually answer that question.
The CDC may answer that question.
So it's not going to be Kennedy or Trump answering that.
It's going to be ASIP with the information.
So all eyes on that vote as well.
I believe that's tomorrow at 2 p.m.
Eastern.
They're going to vote on the further guidance for the COVID.
vaccine. Yeah, it's, it's heating up. It's heating up on this issue. This is what we all wanted.
We wanted this in the public eye. Well, now we're watching. And by the way, you should be,
you know, if you have issues, you know what to do. Everyone has representatives, you know,
get involved, get out there, you know. Make your voice known however you want that known.
It matters when we go and talk to those that represent us. It matters when we call them.
This is that time. This is time to push these things over in whatever direction you feel like
they should go.
