The Highwire with Del Bigtree - THE FIGHT FOR GRACE

Episode Date: April 19, 2022

When Scott Schara admitted his special needs daughter, Grace, to the hospital with mild symptoms from Covid-19, nothing could have prepared him for the tornado of events that would lead to Scott and the Schara family losing the light of their lives.#CovidMalpractice #OurAmazingGraceBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

When we think about this pandemic, so much of our discussions have been about the failure of the vaccine. We've also talked about the denial of life-saving drugs, including hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, and other things. And of course, intravenous, vitamin C, and all of these other things that people have used. And we've discussed it. We've talked about the sort of the mandated ventilators and the remdesivir, and especially the fact that, you know, the ventilators were killing nine. out of 10 people throughout this pandemic. And, you know, Dr. Kyle Seidel, I'm just reflecting way back to a show we did. This ER doctor came out and said, this cannot be right. He was in New York, working in an all-night shift saying, we are just killing people with these ventilators. Well,

what happens when you have some of that information? And you're out there in the middle of the pandemic. So many of you were calling the show saying, I don't know what to do. They will not let me near my loved one. We were going to, I'm trying to. I'm trying to. I'm trying to. get them ivermectin or i'm trying to get them hydroxy chloroquine or i'm trying to make sure that they don't vent them and the hospitals were like these prisons that they had taken your family member in and you were denied access and so many of our parents were lost and grandparents throughout covid when we weren't even able be we weren't even allowed to be standing by their side when it took place well this next story is a story like that and it needs to go into the annals of time into the time capsule that reminds

reminds us how messed up this experience was. How many doctors and nurses were anything but heroic, but actually helped divide families to bring harm, to not protect. This is one of those stories. Here's tobacco, Norris Chewy. Grace was phenomenal. She loved everyone and she loved everything.

She was my best buddy. She went hunting with me. We got her a red convertible when she turned 18. And it was just a joy. We'd get out on the highway and she would say, let her rip dad. And so we would. We found out that we were blessed with Grace

having Down syndrome when she was born. Down syndrome is actually the presence of a third 21st chromosome, which she called her love chromosome because everybody that knows a child with Down syndrome, they just love unconditionally. Down syndrome did not stop Grace whatsoever. There wasn't a thing she didn't do.

She wrote horse, she played violin. My wife, who's gifted in teaching, taught her how to read and write. The things that Grace taught me were really above and beyond whatever I taught her. I saying, thank you. Thank you very much. Grace and I got COVID around the same time. And Grace was doing great. She really was just having symptoms of a cold.

We were monitoring her oxygen. oxygen every day with an oxygen meter. Grace's oxygen level was just below 90, and we assumed that that means check into the hospital. So we took Grace to urgent care, and they did a complete blood analysis and measured her inflammation markers. Her D-Dimer was greater than 5,000.

So the emergency room physician and thought that we should admit Grace to the hospital, and they did a CT scan because of that, D-timer score and her CT scan was negative so thankfully she didn't have clots but he said it's we got a monitor to you very closely at this we never would have considered that this is a dangerous place to put her in the first day it was great we watched a couple of movies and goofed off the second day was October 8th at 8 o'clock in the morning a doctor came in and said you're gonna need to

put your daughter in a ventilator in the next two hours and I said what is that recommendation based on and he said we did a blood gas draw last night and it shows that she's in bad shape so I said I'd like you to retake the draw so they did and Grace was fine what they did subsequent to that was they asked us four different times for a pre-authorization that if they decided grace needed to be ventilated they could do it obviously we weren't going to agree to that it didn't make any sense. The third full day, the start of that day, a nurse came running in and said her oxygen saturation's only at 85%. And I thought, this cannot be.

It's impossible. So I had my own oxygen saturation meter in the room. So I put it on Grace's finger and it read 95%. And I said, is my meter accurate? And she said, yes. I said, well, why is my $50 meter more accurate than your $50,000 meter. And she said, the leads get sweaty. And I said, if you know that, why don't you proactively change out the leads every three or four hours or whatever it takes, given this is the primary statistic you are using to manage my daughter's care. And she snoddly responded, you should just be thankful you caught this.

On Sunday, October 10th at 7 o'clock in the morning, the head nurse came. in with an arm guard and she said you need to leave immediately. I said what's the reason? And she said, well you've been shutting off the alarms at night and I said well that's because I've had the nurses train me how to shut off the non-essential alarms. I said they're going off constantly 20 30 times a night and we've got to get sleep. I mean Grace has got to get sleep to get well and so then she said the second reason is the last three shifts of nurses don't want you in the room. Obviously you because I was challenging the protocols that I was seeing.

So I called an attorney friend, and he said, Scott, just leave peacefully. And I gave Grace a hug. You know, I could just see in her eyes, she was sad. That's the last time I saw her. Grace was alone in the hospital for a total of 44 hours. My wife Cindy couldn't be the replacement advocate because she had COVID.

We had to negotiate because of, of the hospital wanting to follow COVID policy, their internal policy versus the law. Grace had a right to an advocate under the Americans with Disabilities Act. They denied the advocacy. And that's when we got a lawyer involved to get my daughter Jessica as a replacement advocate.

I had no idea what was going on in the hospital. The communication was so poor. No doctor and nurse came to me and said anything they were doing. I had to overhear what they were saying. So they were just making decisions on their own without even communicating with Grace's power of attorney, which was my mother. The doctors weren't giving grace much hope.

Just said that if Grace doesn't keep a good oxygen level, she may go downhill fast. The doctors had four days prior to Grace's last day had put her on a sedation med called Presidex. Every med has a package insert. Presidix package insert says, do not use her more than 24 hours. They had Grace on it for four days. It's an anesthesia drug.

The anesthesia drug is meant to only be used for three hours. I was really panicking and talking to Grace and just letting her know I need you to be a fighter. We need you here and we need you to stay here, you know. Grace's last day is so horrific. Starting at 8 o'clock in the morning, the doctor called Cindy and I at home and made the comment about how great of a day Grace had the day before. He was a very smooth talker. His purpose of calling us was the fifth time that they wanted us to give the pre-authorization for a ventilator.

And we said no again. So she's on max dose of Presidac starting at 5.46 p.m. They gave her a dose of lorazepam, 549, another dose of lorazepam. And at 6.15, a dose of morphine has an IV push. They gave Grace a combination of meds that none of us could have survived. It has a black box warning that says to not combine those drugs because it causes death. If you use morphine, they're supposed to monitor the patient and have the reversal drug bedside, neither of which they did. I was always touching in Grace's hand. I was always holding her, and she didn't feel right to me.

So this nurse, I asked her, I said, does Grace feel cold to you? She feels so cold to me. She said, no, she doesn't feel cold to me. And I couldn't tell you how many minutes went past. But she just didn't seem right yet, and she felt even colder. I tried finding a pulse. I couldn't find a pulse. I lifted up her eyelid, and I saw her eyes roll back. And I knew something wasn't right. So I went out and snucked my head out again.

I said, you know, I need help since someone come look at her, like, what's going on to? She's not doing while her numbers are going down, too. So I instantly got my parents on the phone. At 720, Jessica called Cindy and I on FaceTime. Panicing. He said, Dad, Grazie's numbers are dropping like crazy. I said, get the nurses then. She said, they won't come in.

I've been trying. So Cindy and I holler through the phone, save our daughter. They holler back. She's DNR. Do not resuscitate. One of the nurses read off the computer that the doctor ordered Grace to be DNR and they can't do anything about it. There was roughly 30 to 40 nurses out in that hallway.

No one at all lifted a finger. She was so drugged up. We didn't even see her take a final breath, and I just watched her fade away. We watched Grace die on FaceTime at 727, seven minutes later. Our life without grace is very empty. We lost grace, but we also lost... We lost our future with grace. When Grace died, everything stopped.

I miss everything about her. When nighttime comes, I struggle. I struggle a lot because she's not there. It cuts deep to your soul. An incredible injustice. I'm joined by Grace's father right now. Scott, I want to thank you for joining us. As you watched that story, I know you've told it many times.

What are your thoughts right now? Del it's a tear. I can't I can't describe what it's like to watch this life. It's hard to take. It's like reliving it over and over. Your team did a phenomenal job putting that together. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Well, thank you for sharing this story because you're not alone. Our phones are, you know, have been ringing off the hook with stories like this, trying to find lawyers to intervene, to get to these loved ones. to these loved ones. As you tell this story, I think the thing that stands out to many of us is this odd obsession with ventilation. Did it strike you as it was taking place

that there was something unnatural about their desire to be able to ventilate your daughter in an emergency? Like at any point, you are so available, they can call you at any time if it gets that point. So they, you know, why do they need to be able of ventilator. What were you thinking about that? Yeah, that's a great question. You know, when we entered the hospital, I would have had the ventilator paradigm that most people would have had, which, you know, at the beginning of COVID,

President Trump, I think, unknowingly was promoting that we have a ventilator shortage. And so I just thought, well, I mean, a ventilator is part of the puzzle for the cure. And thankfully, when the doctor on Grace's second day said that you have to put your daughter on a ventilator in the next two hours, you know, I challenged that. And then he redid the blood gas draws. And I asked him then, what is the prognosis if somebody goes on a ventilator? And he told me close to the truth, which he said only 20% of the people on a ventilator walk out alive. I found out subsequently it's closer to 15%. And most of the people who are put on a ventilator during COVID die within the first year because

of the damage it does to their lungs. But what really clued me in is the nurse, that was his assistant at that time when he was in the room started crying. And after talking with her, I found out she had a daughter named Grace, and she knew that if I made that decision, then Grace was going to die. So now instantly, I was educated on ventilators. And then after Grace died, as you know, I've spent hundreds of hours researching and found out the why behind the ventilator push, which is, of course, a money trail. So now I'm very wise to it and I share it with anybody that I can.

Yeah, we've had several doctors, Scott Jensen, who is sort of up north up there. A senator really spoke out about this, how they were being paid, paid first to say someone has COVID. And then in many cases, the number I heard was like a $26,000 bonus to the hospital once they put you on a ventilator. There's also bonuses to drugs. So tell me about, as you lay out this drug program that they put, put your daughter on. You know, all I'm thinking to myself is was she in a car accident? Did she lose a leg? Did she take a bullet to the chest? I mean, why, you know, why these heavy duty, you know, morphine and she's suffering from a cold? She needs oxygen. Why are you going to,

you know, shut the body down at that level? Does it, has anyone made any sense out of that for you? Not the why. Ultimately, only God knows the why, but as I keep drilling this down and learning from other doctors, we have an intensivist who wrote me after reviewing the records because an intensiveist is a doctor who specializes in med combinations. And one of the attorneys suggested we needed to have an intensivist. Anyway, he reviewed the records and wrote me within a few minutes and said, Scott, the meds killed your daughter. And we're talking about the three meds that were done. given Grace was on max dose of Presidex, then given two doses of lorazepam, and then morphine as an IV push, all in 29 minutes. That would have taken anybody out. The doctor who helped us review the records, when she was done, she wrote me and even crossed into intentional. She thinks it was intentional because it's so crazy. And so, I mean, we don't know why. You know, I'd like, I've speculated on why, but we don't know why. It just, it isn't, we know it's not an accident because a 14-year ICU nurse is the one who delivered the meds.

Did they, what was the final, if you don't mind my prior, what was the final cause of death that they wrote on there? I mean, what did they say she died from? They said two things. One is COVID and the other one is respiratory distress. And, you know, ultimately because they list. they received the $13,000 government bonus, which of course of grace with a little, they wouldn't have received. And the respiratory distress is just as you showed in that one statement, that summary that added these drugs together, that is one of the issues. Respiratory distress. There it says, look at this. The CNS depressants may increase the risk of respiratory

depression, hypotension, sedation, coma or death. This is what they're given. And as you said, not only are they not sitting by her bed, as your other daughter is there watching over her saying she needs your help. They're like, no, sorry. If she's dying from what we've just done, there's a do not resuscitate order. Did you, did you agree to a DNR order? Absolutely not. And the latest, I drilled down some more records. So we've had the benefit of having a medical malpractice nurse at the hands of Tom Rends.

get involved and she reviewed all the records I had first and had reviewed with another doctor. And she said to us, Scott, there's at least a thousand pages missing. So she helped write up another request. We received the extra pages and she was right on. There's 948 more pages. And I'm just going to read right off of this. So I mean, it's so strange. So at 1048 in the morning on Grace's last day, she was at max dose Presidax maximum. And at 1050, six, remember, we did not approve this. The doc, that's when the doctor put the DNR order on grace, eight minutes later. After I saw this on Monday, I talked with an attorney and his, he just instantly said,

they thought the precedex was going to take her out. And so, you know, when you look at this, it starts getting, I'm getting closer and closer to the intention side of what happened. And it just looks so strange because it looks like they had to put this. this DNR order in to cover the tracks because obviously they did not want to save Grace. They violated seven state statutes by putting the DNR order on Grace. And the last one was when my wife and I hollered, she's not DNR, save our daughter. That overrides any DNR order and they refused to come in.

And on top of, they come in the room and on top of that, they had an armed guard posted outside the room. It's just so strange. I can't even imagine the honestly anger I would feel and the rage and the frustration. So you're bringing a lawsuit. Tell me some of what does a parent do, unfortunately, because you're not alone. Luckily, you know, by the grace of God, I haven't had to go through a situation like that. You know, we're brought some really incredible chance. challenges in life, but there are people watching right now that have gone through a similar situation. So what are the steps you're taking in the aftermath of this horrific event? That's a great question. So I'm going to walk through it big picture and then touch on

the lawsuit idea. So, you know, the steps, the most important steps are getting right with God. And, you know, thankfully before we started getting the word out here, we, we We had done the research, we sent it all to the hospital requesting a meeting. I thought that was my biblical responsibility to meet the people who did this to Grace. Because we shortly, within a couple of days after reviewing the records, we knew they killed her. So then we took the time, wrote everything out, sent it all to the hospital. And then on December 2nd, they wrote us back and said, we're not going to have a meeting.

So that opened up the door for us to share the message. So during that time, I had to come to grips with forgiving them, which I mean, there's no way a dad or a mom or anybody, you can't forgive that on your own. God had to work in my heart to do that. And thankfully he did. So now I can, you know, I could research this objectively, tell the story and then look at the idea of a lawsuit objectively. So, you know, from the perspective of, you know, a lawsuit, you know, anger can produce.

a lawsuit that has vengeance as the motive. And we don't want to go there. You know, if there's going to be a lawsuit, we don't know that yet. You know, I've been introduced to Tom Rends. He took a, you know, he just took an absolute love to Grace, which was nice. And he, out of his own pocket, funded this medical malpractice nurse.

So we have our arms around it. And it seems that Grace's case is got, is so egregious. It's got enough things in it. There's an overabundance. abundance of evidence that it would be a great test case. But I'll just tell your audience from a practical side, there is no legal grounds. It is unbelievable how the state statute and the federal statutes have you tied up. So I'll just walk through this. Grace was an adult. She was 19 years old. So the normal lawsuit theory is under loss of companionship. We have no loss of

of companionship because Grace was an adult by state statute. So then the next situation is medical malpractice. And that has a similar limitation, but medical malpractice has a limitation in Wisconsin of $750,000. Most states have a limitation like that. So when we were walking through this process, I asked, what's the purpose of the limitation? And I was told the doctors lobbies have the limitations in place because otherwise doctors would at practice if they had, if they didn't have some immunity for liability. And so then the, the, um, so $750,000 limit, I talked with a referral that they considered the best

medical malpractice attorney in the state. And so he told me, Scott, even in slam dunks like this appears to be, you only have a one in 10 chance of winning. I said, well, what's the reason? He said, And he gave me an example. He said, I had a case where the doctors sewed up a sponge inside the patient and we lost. I said, well, how was that possible? He said, we brought 10 expert witnesses and they brought 100. So they circle the weights. And then, of course, as you know, they have immunity under the CARES Act. So I mean, we have a small thread where we can, just a small gap where we can sue, which is Grace's estate can sue for pain and suffering. So if that's what we do to, to promote a test case so that we can use Grace's case to stop this foolishness.

You know, that's the angle that we would go in now. Well, you know, I know that those are decisions that you're making right now. But you're the main reason you're here, one of the reasons I met you when I was out there on the speaking tour. And you said, you know, you really just want to get the story out so that we can start making changes. People need to get involved. They need to, they need to know that these things are happening to people. doctors need to know. And so, you know, you have a website. So tell me things you're doing right now. And I understand you even have a rally or something coming up this week. So is this,

this is the website. www.r Amazinggrace.net. If you want to sort of check in on the story and track, I would guess, you know, the decisions that are being made in Grace's case. This is the website. And then you want to stage a bit of a protest, I guess, or something, right? Is that, Is that happening this weekend? It is. It's happening tomorrow morning from 9 to noon. And thanks for mentioning that, Del. It's pretty neat opportunity. We're calling it a memorial rally.

The city of Appleton, Wisconsin is the city where Grace died, and she died at St. Elizabeth's Hospital, which is part of the ascension system. Anyway, the city has been gracious. We had to get a permit to be able to have this happen, and they are closing off a street right across from the wing of the hospital where Grace was killed. So it'll be fantastic. We're really looking forward to it. You know, there's a number of speakers, people who have had similar situations to us, people flying in to speak. And so we're looking forward to it as a way to honor grace.

And we really hope that it can be used to, if God wants to use that, to bring. the people in the hospital to acknowledge what they did and repent. I mean, that would, that would be the ultimate justice and it would be fantastic. You know, Scott, and for everyone out there, if you're in the area of Wisconsin or surrounding states, I think these are, these are those important moments where we really can make a difference. We really can make the news. We really can make change by standing together. Of course, we have the huge event coming up this Sunday, but we're talking tomorrow. We're talking about Friday morning. Appleton, Wisconsin.

If you're anywhere in the area, go to Our Amazinggrace.net for any information on this. And what do we hope to achieve with things like this? What we hope is that a politician will listen, that our leaders will say, you know what, obviously we have to intervene here. The fact that these hospitals are so, you know, protected from liability, your average citizen is just not, it's, you're up against a mountain. Or as you said, the wagons are all drawn around you. I want to point out that the reason we have moments like this is what we just saw happen in Florida.

Governor Ron DeSantis has just brought a new bill. Governor Ron DeSantis signs bill to guarantee visitation rights for patients and their families. That's huge, right? I mean, that's what you want to see happen in Wisconsin. We should all. And the fact, I mean, the fact that we have to have laws that state that you have to let me in to be a representative to, my relative is insane, but we're at that point. Is that sort of what you would like to see happen up in Wisconsin? Is the government to get involved and say a hospital cannot ban you from the

room where your loved one is being treated? I would say that's a minimum. You know, so we were in the room and they still took out grace. Right. There's a lot, you know, there's a lot going on here, Della, as you know, we really see that, you know, grace is. case as I've drilled it down. There's some specifics on her last day that are so crazy. She was strapped down to the bed for wanting to go to the bathroom. You know, just process that. You know, that was one of the hardest things for me to tell until an attorney friend said, Scott, do you think that you would have been strapped down to the bed? I said, no, I wouldn't have been. So I started digging that Sunday. I got up at 3 o'clock in the morning.

Went through the records one more time. Just looking for down, because I thought, you know what? I think they strapped her down because they could. And in the 22 doctors reports that were written during the seven days, Grace was in the hospital, they referenced the fact that she had Down syndrome 36 different times. They also referenced the fact that she's unvaccinated, that she's Christian, that we're following the frontline doctor's misinformation campaign. was such a bias toward her in our family that you think how could she ever survive so where is that

even coming from you know grace's story you know with everything you're covering you see grace's story is really just one sliver it's really a new angle that the government has in this in this mastermind agenda that they're they're pushing yeah it's really there is a lot to this that is so suspect and when you think about these discussions we've had I won't get into it here but when we look at many of the banking issues Europe you know some of the specialists saying that Europe is about to go bankrupt America is on the verge of bankruptcy pension is not being paid out disability is costing the government and it does almost seem systematic the way we've been putting

elderly people on ventilators and you know handicapped and those maybe that can't fight for themselves so I really want to thank you for taking the time today, Scott. Our hearts are with you. Our prayers are with you. I know that we can't bring grace back, but I do know that we can make sure that this story of grace's life is able to make a change so that others never have to suffer what you've gone through. And I want to thank you for your courage for standing up and using this instead of just, you know, letting it tear you apart, actually going out and trying to save others, it is what's truly great about humanity. And you represent the best of us right now. And I want

to thank you for taking the time. Well, Del, it's quite an honor and realize that it isn't, it's God doing it through me because I don't have that strength on my own. And we are certainly hoping that this story pricks people's heart so that they realize that the government has dupe them and they can they can turn to the only one who won't dupe them and you know that's that's really what this is is about all right everyone once again if you want to go to that rally or follow the story the website is www. our amazinggrace.net is that right our amazinggrace.net yes there it is and so really get out there if you're in the neighborhood these are the things that are important it'll be a good warm up as you get ready to hop on a plane up there in wisconsin and join me in

Angelus, Scott, my best. Send my love to the rest of your family and know that we're with you there tomorrow morning in spirit. Thank you very much, I sure appreciate it. You bet. All right, well, this is just another one of those stories why it's time to come together. This has been a disgrace, this entire situation, the way hospitals have handled as doctors and nurses falling far below what's expected from them after having signed the Hippocratic Oath, which was to do no harm. Can you imagine writing a do not resuscitate order on a young person without even talking to their parents because they have COVID? She's not dying of AIDS. This isn't terminal cancer. She didn't lose her, you know, lungs in a car accident. She's going to recover in a couple of days.

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