The Highwire with Del Bigtree - THE IMMUNE COMPROMISE

Episode Date: June 16, 2022

DeSantis Makes Special Olympics Withdraw Mandate; First SIDS, Now SADS; Vaccinated Portugal Vs. Unvaccinated S. Africa; Canada Unhinged; Scientists Can’t ignore The Immune CompromiseGuests: Igor Chu...dov, James Neuenschwander, M.D.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you notice that this show doesn't have any commercials? I'm not selling you diapers or vitamins or smoothies or gasoline. That's because I don't want corporate sponsors telling us what to investigate and what to say. Instead, you're our sponsors. This is a production by our nonprofit, the Informed Consent Action Network. If you want more investigations, more hard-hitting news. If you want the truth, go to Ican Decide.org and donate now. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you,
Starting point is 00:00:47 are out there in the world, it's time for us all to step out onto the high wire. Well, when I first got involved with the vaccine conversation back in 2016, my film Vax was just coming out, and right at that time there was this law SB 277 in California that was seeking to forcibly vaccinate essentially every child going to elementary or private school. I'm sure most of you now know about this, and this attempt was made all across the country in every state to try and remove the exemptions, the ability to exempt out of the vaccine program with your children. Now, the argument that was always made was that, well, the reason we have to force this vaccine on all the healthy children is because of those children,
Starting point is 00:01:30 those immune-suppressed children or those with illnesses or disabilities that keep them from being able to get the vaccine. By vaccinating all the healthy children, we protect. We create a cocoon or community immunity or herd immunity would hear all of those terms. Now, we were all saying from the very beginning that this was just a sort of a lie or a tactic to try and just give pharma power over our children essentially the government of the United States. But I want to say this. If you really wanted to question it, what would really make you question it is if you saw the very people that were writing the articles and pushing the laws trying to forcefully vaccinate the healthy children in order to protect that immune
Starting point is 00:02:12 suppressed group, what would really blow that apart was if you saw them actually target that very group of susceptible individuals that should be protected from having to be vaccinated. At least that's what I would say would blow up this entire conversation for me. Now, what would happen if you saw them do exactly that? To go right after the very group of susceptible children. What would you do? Well, we know what Ronda Santis would do as of this. week. Governor Ronda Santis has threatened to cut $27 million in funding from the Special Olympics.
Starting point is 00:02:45 That's because they had a COVID vaccine mandate for the athletes and guests attending their upcoming competition. The State Department of Health sent a letter to the organization arguing the requirement that athletes show proof of vaccination violated state law. We've never seen something wielded like this vaccine to try to marginalize disfavored people, to try to deny people full freedom and full rights. Governor DeSantis, he blasted the games for making athletes wait this long to find out if they could even play. To go after special Olympians who all they wanted to do is compete was not consistent with Florida law. And it's not the right thing to do. Let them compete.
Starting point is 00:03:33 This was actually an issue that we were aware of. We've been talking to several families that rode into the high wire saying one of the things that my special needs child really lives for is the Special Olympics. They've been training. They're on track. They've been accepted. And now they're being told they're not going to be allowed to compete unless they get a vaccination. Many of these parents saying that vaccination is why our child is in the Special Olympics having been vaccinated before. And now we can't go there.
Starting point is 00:04:00 We can't support our child's dream. This was crazy. Well, this is how it all sort of broke down. We can look at this Twitter. Florida said the vaccine rule conflicted with state law and disqualified Special Olympics athletes from competing based on their vaccine status. State said they heard from athletes and families of athletes who complained. Here's the letter the state sent. This is the letter, Angela Chiaquolo, chief legal officer and secretary to Timothy Schrever, Special Olympics International.
Starting point is 00:04:28 This letter is noticed that the Special Olympics International, SOI, is assessed a 27.5 million fond of, for 5,500 violations of Section 381, Florida statutes after the Department of Health Department made repeated attempts to avoid imposing fines against this charitable organization to ensure the 2022 USA Special Olympics could be held in Florida without requiring proof of vaccination from delegates. Department found that SOI required proofs certifying COVID-19 vaccination from 5,500 individuals to gain access to entry upon
Starting point is 00:05:03 and or service from the 2020. to USA Special Olympics games in violation of Florida law. Pretty healthy stakes there, obviously. I mean, this is the Special Olympics. It's a big organization. It has done a lot of good. But in this point, it was really hurting people's lives, especially those children. Well, let's see how this all turned out.
Starting point is 00:05:24 As the headlines read, Special Olympics drops COVID-19 vaccine mandate after Florida plans millions in fines. Governor Ronda Santis ensures all athletes can play. announced a Special Olympic Games drops vaccine mandate. Huge victory there in Florida. We are not a political organization here, but anytime someone does what's right, I don't care if you're a president, a senator, a congressman,
Starting point is 00:05:49 or a governor. Ron DeSantis, you got this one right. Thank you for taking care of those families that have been calling our company here and asking what we could do about it. You wielded the power that was necessary at the right time and the right place, and it is really a breath of fresh air.
Starting point is 00:06:05 once in a while when something in politics goes the right way. And I just want to make this point to the Shriver family and the Kennedy families that are out there. So many of you've been attacking your own family member, Robert Kennedy Jr. for speaking out about the harms and dangers of vaccination. You've written articles against him. And I know he has too much class to take this moment to say I told you so, but I don't. And I want to say this to the entire Kennedy and Shriver family. What does it feel like to actually be on the wrong side of the vaccine discussion? Get used to it. We're winning. All right. I want to get on the rest of our show. I got a huge show coming up. I'm going to be talking to Dr. James Nguyen Schwander, who is a specialist in autoimmune
Starting point is 00:06:50 diseases and issues, works with a lot of children. We're going to talk about this rise of illnesses amongst of our children. And is it possible that the lockdowns are the reason our kids are getting so sick, not just in America, but around the world. And then there's this headline. What does the month of May with the highest mortality in Portugal, at least since 1980, have to do with the United States of America? Well, stay tuned. But first, it's time for The Jackson Report. All right, Jeffrey Jackson.
Starting point is 00:07:29 What do you got for us this week? How you doing, Del? Well, just a couple weeks ago, you and Dr. Peter McCullough went over a pretty in-depth segment on Monkey Pox. And it looked like at the time when you were reporting on it, this thing was going to fizzle itself out. We probably were seeing the end of it. Well, take a look what the news is reporting just this week. All right. New concerns about the growing number of monkeypox cases across the country.
Starting point is 00:07:55 This is the largest outbreak for the virus outside of Africa in decades. In the U.S., the CDC reporting 31 confirmed cases as Monday afternoon. The number of cases of monkeypox has continued to. increase is almost a thousand people now with confirmed or suspected cases in more than two dozen countries around the world. New York State's Department of Health stating that mask can protect against monkey pox as well as other viruses circulating in New York City. The agency urging travelers to avoid close contact with sick people, contact with dead or live wild animals such as small mammals, avoid eating meat that comes from wild game. The CDC has raised its alert level
Starting point is 00:08:38 for monkey pox to level two, recommending the travelers now wear masks. Dr. Mike, are you kidding me? This is for monkey pox. Yeah. I mean, we, you know, I remember when we covered this, I said, look, just watch the rhetoric. It's a lot like coronavirus, right? It started out. It was a nothing burger. They all said it was a nothing burger. And slowly it sort of starts growing on you. And, you know, it just seems so foolhardy to be pushing with this, but it is starting to ramp up the rhetoric a bit like coronavirus. Where are we at? What are they saying now? Yeah. And a lot of times, you know, as we investigate these things, the headlines are kind of like
Starting point is 00:09:19 tea leaves. And that's where we start the investigation looking for these contradictions. So just, just as a reminder, there's just a little over a thousand confirmed and suspected monkeypox cases in 29 countries here. Of seven million people, we currently have a thousand cases. Okay. Just just let's all keep that perspective. Okay. And then the U.S. here, just about, is a little over 30, a 35 was the last time I checked from the EDC's official numbers. So just keep that perspective. Now, May 23rd, you know, just a couple weeks ago, we saw headlines from the WHO looking like this.
Starting point is 00:09:50 W.HO says no evidence monkeypox virus has mutated. Okay, that's good news. But now we're seeing headlines like this. This is just recently two distinct monkeypox variants found in the U.S. adding to outbreaks mystery. And it goes on to say in this article, experts are weighing various possibilities, possible explanations for the quick growth of the current outbreaks. It could be that a few events simply gave the virus a chance to spread or monkeypox may have
Starting point is 00:10:14 evolved to get better at human, human transmission. A third hypothesis is that the virus may have been spreading undetected for some time. So the research are pretty much saying, we have no idea what's going on. And obviously they didn't mention the COVID vaccine that's been, you know, showing through studies to bring down people's immune system, making them more susceptible to certain things like this. But now, as it said here in that news montage at the top, the CDC raised his monkeypox alert level to level two. The highest is level three, and that would kick off travel restrictions. But it says it recommends masks during travel.
Starting point is 00:10:50 This is the big thing, this politicalization of this masking. And just 24 hours later, they had to remove that recommendation from their website. This is the headline. It's kind of hilarious. CDC withdraws mask recommendation against monkey pox after backlash. It says here the recommendations drew strong backlash with many pointing out that since monkey pops spreads via close and prolonged contact, particularly sexual contact between homosexual men, masks would seem to be unnecessary and useless. And then there's a doctor. He's quoted saying, still trying to comprehend the CDC guidance to wear masks to slow the spread of monkeypox.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Dr. David Samadhi wrote in response to the news. The disease is not airborne at this moment, he added. What exactly are the masks supposed to do in that case? So we have this contradiction. So apparently they don't want you to mask for monkeypox, but they are ramping up testing. This was the headline from CNN just recently, plans underway to ramp up monkeypox testing if outbreak grows quickly. Now, we've seen this before with the coronavirus. This was what they called for.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And some great investigative work out of the National Pulse. They did a lot of great work during the coronavirus outbreak. This is one of their headlines for the monkeypox testing. It says here, the infamous Wuhan lab recently. assembled monkeypox strains using methods flag for creating contagious pathogens. And so let's look at this study here. This study has nine Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers on it. And there's the study's titled,
Starting point is 00:12:16 Efficient Assembly of Large Fragment of Monkeypox Virus Genome as a QPCR template using dual selection based transformation association recombination. So basically what they're doing is they're trying to create a template for PCR testing, this rapid testing for monkeypox. And again, this was just a couple months before monkeypox became this international story in May. So the timing is very coincidental there. And again, coming out of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, this is the same place that was recombining bat coronaviruses with that could infect humans, obviously early on from the coronavirus pandemic. A lot of questions going out of there.
Starting point is 00:12:54 But one of the biggest really coincidental issues here, let's really dig into this one, is the tabletop exercise that happened in 2021. This was the title. I think of my wants to read this, strengthening global systems to prevent and respond to high consequence biological threats. This was in 2021. Again, 2021. It was the Munich Security Conference. And now let's look at some of these exercise participants. This is right off the first couple pages here. We have the Dr. Draghi Akli. He's the global head of Johnson and Johnson's R&D and Janssen's R&D. We have Dr. Chris Elias. He is the president of Global Development division of the Bill of Melinda Gates Foundation. Then we have Sir Jeremy Farrar. His name was all over the early outbreak. This was Fauci's go-to guy. He was really quarterbacking a lot of this stuff behind
Starting point is 00:13:42 the scenes. Then we even have Dr. George Gao. He's the director of the Chinese CDC, which is interesting because the China does not have monkeypox outbreak. So I don't know what he's doing in here, but we have all of these usual suspects, these usual organizations. And the biggest glaring issue from this tabletop exercise, which is just like a strategic role-playing situation. This is sort of like the event 201 that Bill Gates had back prior to the COVID pandemic. This is one of those where they're all sort of gaming it out together and what-if scenarios. Okay. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Exactly. So let's take a look at their timeline in 2021 that they chose for this fictitious monkey pox outbreak. You can see here attack May 15th, 2022. This was in about a week of when it's actually. happened. May 15th, 2020, they chose a monkeypox outbreak that would go international, infect the world. And you can see here the scenario, they're saying 83 countries, 70 million cases. Thankfully, we're nowhere near that. But May 15th, 2020. So we had our team breakdown kind of like a behind, back of the napkin odds ratio for this. What were the odds that they could choose
Starting point is 00:14:48 monkeypox? What were the odds that they chose an outbreak outside Africa? So here, predicting the virus, a one in 10 chance. Now, this is generous because there's two hundred. 19 viruses that are known to infect humans. But, you know, a lot of the times when they talk bioterrorism, they use pox viruses. And so there's about 10 of those. So one in 10 chance there. Predicting the months, obviously, one in 12. Predicting the outbreaks outside of Africa, there's only been about three or four in the last 55 years.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Then that one in three chance of this human to human transmission in multiple Western countries at the same time, it leads to an odd ratio of roughly one in six thousand, 600 chance that they chose. May 15th of that month with monkeypox with global transmission so when you know when we challenge the coincidence we challenge the chance we have a lot of questions we have to ask ourselves here and as you say we were conservative I mean imagine where that number is if we say you picked out of one out of 241 viruses that could have done you know it could start a pandemic and we just said oh let's just stick with the poxas we just tried to keep it as contained as possible we're
Starting point is 00:15:52 having some fun with the math actually dig in but a one in six thousand 600 chance odds that you would choose the right month, the right week, the right virus, you know, and, uh, and outside of Africa, which would have been super rare and lo, behold right to the date. There it is. 1,000, 1,6,600 chance of getting that right. Someone over there by it better buy a lottery ticket, man. These guys are good. That's right. Luckily they're playing for our team. So to complicate matters to, just to end this segment off, just to throw this out there, to complicate matters, There's a headline that there's a complication from Pfizer's vaccines that's coming up.
Starting point is 00:16:31 COVID vaccine, the side effect appearing up to one month after getting the Pfizer booster. This is called a bolus pemphagoid. It's a blistering disease. And here's some pictures here from this. This is a picture from the wrist. You have these bubbles. Now this can pop up anywhere on the body. And these pictures might I add are generous.
Starting point is 00:16:48 These things can go throughout the entire body and be extremely grotesque. Here's another picture on the hand. You have all of these, you have all these outbreaks. on the hand. But what does that look like? It looks a little bit like monkey pox. So if I'm a doctor in the middle of this hype of this monkey pox outbreak and I see people coming in with these bubbles, I mean, obviously they're going to test, but you know, you're talking about suspected cases and confirmed cases. How many of these suspected cases are this are this bullish pampagoid from the Pfizer vaccine and also a phone vaccine? And then you think about the fact that, you know, that they're going to be
Starting point is 00:17:22 using a PCR test to figure it out, which, you know, if they don't get the cycles right on that, this whole thing ramps up again, you, you know, basically can show that anyone has monkey pox if you run the PCR test 45 cycles. I mean, this, you know, I pray they're not stupid enough to go down this road because, I mean, I think a lot of people, a lot of people, and not just those, even those perhaps that really bought into the COVID vaccine. I think we've had enough. I think it'll be really obvious if they decide to start pushing this as some sort of out of control pandemic. But, you know, I kind of thought that with COVID in the beginning. When we're looking at the death rates, we're really quite low,
Starting point is 00:18:00 have always stayed very low. It's amazing what they can do when they own the television and all that hype and all that stress and fear. The fear porn, as we call it, that they put out there. So, yeah. The difference this time around, the eyes of the world are really awake and watching, and there's so many good outlets reporting like we are to report on these things.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Normally we should be avoiding a topic this stupid, but we want everyone's eyes on it, right? Keep your eyes on it, folks. We've got to watch where this is going. Yeah, just finding a little smoke there. And, you know, looking at, again, looking at these article headlines, we track a lot of these stories. Here's another set of stories we want to report on.
Starting point is 00:18:37 We've seen this normalizing of COVID vaccine injuries throughout the media, people with heart issues and things like that. But just to intro this story, I want to introduce to viewers who may not have heard of it. This is a situation called SIDS. This is Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. And this is when a child, typically a young child, a zero to one year old, suddenly dies. There's no, you know, heart issues. There's no, they just died.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And that's put down as the cause. And, you know, there's a lot of questions surrounding that. A researcher named Neil Miller did some research on vaccines and SIDS because there's a lot of causal, causal, coincidental situations with that. And this is what he found. This was the headline of his research. This is an analysis. vaccines and sudden infant death, an analysis of the VERS database, 1990 to 2019 and the review of
Starting point is 00:19:28 medical literature. So he looked at about 20 years, and he says this. This is one of his conclusions. The finding in this study revealed that infant deaths in SIDS cases were not randomly distributed each day. Instead, infant mortality in SIDS cases reported to the VERS tended to occur in temporal proximity to vaccine administration. That is, they clustered in the early post-vaccination period, day one through day seven. So they're finding a day after the vaccine to seven days after the vaccine, a lot of these clusters of these kids dying of this unknown illness, they were vaccinated. And so that brings us to the current headlines. We have headlines that look like this, young woman who went to gym and walked 10,000 steps a day dies suddenly in her sleep. And it says here in the article,
Starting point is 00:20:12 a fit and healthy woman who walked 10,000 steps a day died in her sleep without warning. They found Catherine had passed during the night. However, it was later to turn. she died of sudden adult death syndrome or SADS. This is something now that is attempting to be normalized. There's something you would imagine you're reading on, you know, or watching on a Saturday live episode. Let's be clear that we name things sudden infant death syndrome. That was always, I think it was amazing how long that term has been around. How many parents are in support groups across the country and the world, all saying it was shortly after the vaccination is Neil Miller so clearly puts out.
Starting point is 00:20:49 there but here we are now all of a sudden rising death rates on bears we see so many actors actors comedians all these people dying in his sleep you know ray leota recently i mean i don't know if he was vaccinated but we were asking the question right when do we ever remember people just suddenly sudden adult death syndrome i don't remember hearing that just it sounds as stupid as it is especially if we don't wake up to what clearly must be going on here right and the reason my reporting on this is because the headlines are starting to show it. Here's another headline. This again out of the UK,
Starting point is 00:21:23 New Bride 30, who was found dead in a tanning salon cubicle in Swansea after collapsing with suspected heart problem. And then here's the actual headline trying to normalize this a little bit, or at least alert people to it. Healthy young people are dying suddenly and unexpectedly from a mysterious syndrome as doctors seek answers through a new national registry. And it says in this article, people age under 40 are being urged to have their hearts checked
Starting point is 00:21:47 because they may potentially be at risk. risk of sudden adult death syndrome. So everybody under 40 is at risk now. The syndrome known as SADS has been fatal for all kinds of people, regardless of whether they maintain a fit and healthy lifestyle. SADS is an umbrella term to describe unexpected deaths and young people, said the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners. So, you know, here's where health kind of deviates from common sense. Doesn't matter if you're healthy. Doesn't matter if you take care of yourself. You're at risk of this thing. If you're walking and breathing air, you might die suddenly. I mean, But here's what's weird. It doesn't say have your heart check because, you know, a heart attack is possible.
Starting point is 00:22:25 SADS is possible. I mean, so, I mean, do they even, they don't really even see heart attack in these situations. It's just, they're just dead. That's right. That's right. And so here's kind of a juxtaposition of the reporting. So you have all these articles saying, we don't know what happened. Here's an article that says we know what happened. And it was testified in a court of law. COVID-19 vaccine, Twofford Mum, died from coronavirus, jab, So basically there's no cause of death had been given following the first postmortem by a pathologist named Dr. Gutara. So it says, and this is the exchange from the courts. So listen to this. He says this is the doctor who did the initial postmortem. He said Dawn's heart had an inflammation, also known as myocarditis, and there was a clot on her lung. The doctor said he was aware Dawn had complained of menstrual irregularities after receiving her Pfizer coronavirus vaccine on June 4th.
Starting point is 00:23:16 He says, quote, that's important because a lot of women. and did get that as a result of getting the jab. Dr. Guitara said, Don was also suffering from an achy arm and jaw, reading coroner's court heard. The doctor continued, these features and her medical history made me suspicious. She was suffering from vaccine-related complications prior to her death. He says the inflammation and clots on her lungs would be supportive of a vaccine-related injury. There is nothing in her history to suggest she had an underlying cardiac problem. Then it goes on. Dr. Guita explained to the court that the myocarditis Don suffered from would have caused a huge surge in adrenaline leading to cardiac arrest.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Coroner Alison McCormick asked Dr. Gattara if it was more likely than not that Don died as a reaction of the vaccine. He responded, I would say yes. Wow. This is a dramatic turn in reporting to really report this. Normally these things don't get reported. Right, especially when it's a, especially when it's a baby and no one wants to admit to the truth. But it just gives you this sense that this whole thing is really starting to unravel, you know, even when they don't say it, even when you see these headlines, sudden death of an actor, I feel like behind the scenes, those, I mean, you didn't usually just sort of report on someone dying, like a 30-year-old dies. I feel like those headlines are coming out, even if they don't attach it to the vaccine
Starting point is 00:24:34 as a way of these reporters to just keep saying, wake up people, wake up people. We can't tell you what this is, but come on, put two and two together. Right, right. And here in the U.S., we have our own problems here. And that's the vaccine injury compensation program. Now, remember, the vaccine manufacturers have immunity from liability, and they go into this special court. And this court during COVID-19 is being, not the court, but the injuries are being overwhelmed is the word they use. And this is political, the mainstream reporting here. This is the title, Vaccine Injury Compensation Programs overwhelmed as Congressional reform languishes. Now, we saw this coming from a mile away, and this is what the report says.
Starting point is 00:25:17 This is kind of sad to see this now, but a pair of federal programs compensating people who suffer injuries from vaccines and pandemic treatments are now facing so many claims that thousands of people may not receive payments for their injuries anytime soon. The first program meant for standard vaccines, such as measles and polio, has too little staff to handle the number of reported injuries, and thousands of patients are waiting years for their cases to be heard. Between 2010 and 2020, The countermeasures injury compensation program received 500 complaints. In the two years since COVID-19 appeared, it has received over 8,000 complaints. And of course, that countermeasures program is the one that deals with the emergency pandemic vaccine.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And it says, should COVID-19 shots become routine once the pandemic ends, alleged injuries would eventually be handled by the already overburdened standard vaccine injury compensation program? Patient advocates, attorneys in the pharmaceutical industry fear with that, without drastic reforms, the program could collapse. Despite bipartisan calls for change, Congress has failed to act, frustrating those who say that the VICP, which covers nearly three times as many vaccines today, as it did when it was created three decades ago, is overwhelmed.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Full stop. I mean, that is an amazing article. Just saying what we're saying, for people out there, for those of you that have been fighting for the rights of the vaccine injured and getting the stories out there, of course, I really dove into the middle of that when I, I made the documentary vaxed and met thousands of people out there telling their stories. But to see these, this is Politico, folks.
Starting point is 00:26:49 This is Politico. The article is not saying, you know, thousands of lunatics are lining up to get vaccination or to get compensated for a fake vaccine injury or something. They are legitimizing this idea of vaccine injury, which did not exist two years ago. Prior to COVID, everyone was saying safe and effective no matter what. And so now you have this issue and what it really reminds me of. And I think about this. If we're looking at thousands, what are they saying?
Starting point is 00:27:14 Like 8,000 cases are stacked up now already in this vaccine court. For people that they're brand new, that so many of you have joined us over this COVID pandemic, I want to point out that a very similar situation happened very early on when we took liability away from the industry. Remember, these aren't cases in a regular courtroom. We have plenty of courtrooms across the country you could be going to if you were allowed to sue the manufacturer or your doctor.
Starting point is 00:27:40 but they're protected. They have liability protection. The childhood vaccine was protected in the 1986 vaccine injury compensation act, which was passed in 1986, just like it sounds. Right now the PrEP Act and these things are what are protecting the COVID vaccine. But folks, when we took liability away, I think the government of the United States thought, well, this is just going to be a little problem. We know that the industry is backing away from wanting liability. By the way, they blackmailed Ronald Reagan. They said we're losing so much money from death and injury from vaccines. that we cannot make a profit. We're just going to stop making all vaccines.
Starting point is 00:28:14 So if you want vaccines, you better protect us from liability. This is what went down in 1986. So the government, I think, fullheartedly, you know, move forward and said, yeah, okay, we'll take on the liability. Then they started their own court system, this kangaroo court, where if you're injured, just come on in, we'll pay you. We know there are some injuries out there. Suddenly they had 5,000 cases of autism wind up, just like this.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Within just a short period of time, just like COVID, 8,000. cases in this situation, 5,000 had autism. Autism was paying out roughly, you know, four or five million dollars for the destruction of your entire life. And so they were looking at potentially trillions of dollars in debt to the country. And so what they did was the famous omnibus proceedings. They had a proceeding where they took, this was at the United States Court of Federal Claims. They took the omnibus autism proceeding. They said, we are going, instead of running 5,000 cases, we're going to take roughly six cases and it kind of got jocchi it around. Some say five, you could say seven, depending how you looked at it. But six
Starting point is 00:29:14 cases, essentially, we will rule on those cases and the fate of those cases will decide the fate of the 5,000. That's what went down. And so there was a lot of monkey business involved. The very first case that came up, Michelle Sedillo, we had a famous Dr. Zimmerman, Andrew Zimmerman, who was working for the Department of Justice for the government in this kangaroo court. He said There's no mechanism by which a vaccine causes autism. That case was then basically dismissed and that one loses. But then came Ralph Hazlehurst and also, I mean, Yates Hazlehurst, Ralph Hazelhurst's son.
Starting point is 00:29:52 You had Hannah Poehling. These cases were right near each other. Hannah Poehling ends up getting autism. And her dad, John Polling, works next to Andrew Zimmerman. They're peers in the neurology department. And so Andrew Zimmerman watches what. takes place and he changes his tune and in her case he ends up saying i have discovered the mechanism by which a vaccine causes autism it's an issue with the mitochondria the energy of the cells
Starting point is 00:30:18 if you have a mitochondrial disorder the vaccine then can lead to in a cephalopathy in the brain and the result of that being autism this should have changed the game forever it should have made the decision for all of those cases but guess what they did they pulled the hand of polling case out they took it out of the omnibus proceeding cheated when they said we said we we will use these cases. They cheated. They settled for a huge amount of money. And then they kicked Andrew Zimmerman out of being the representative for the Department of Justice. And along comes Yates Hazlehurst. His case is settled. And guess what they do in Yates Hazlehurst? At the end of his case, it says Andrew Zimmerman wasn't allowed to appear as a representative. Now, he's one of the leading
Starting point is 00:30:57 authorities on autism. But he has said, and they quoted, there is no mechanism by which a vaccine causes autism. And therefore, that was how they decided these five cases and the other 5,000 were thrown out. You watch, let's see if they start doing that with the mounting cases from these coronavirus vaccines. Remember, if the government is forcing this vaccine, which it did, Joe Biden took away jobs, destroyed lives, destroyed incomes, destroyed families for this vaccine. Do you think they're going to let us see that that vaccine was actually injuring perhaps upwards of tens of thousands of people? I think there's, you know, how many cases now in bears? Do we have the VAERS report right now?
Starting point is 00:31:35 If we bring it up right here, we have 28,532 reports of death from the coronavirus vaccine in just the two years. 160,000 reports of hospitalization, 130,000 urgent care, 194,000 doctors visits, all claiming because of injury from the vaccine, 9,000 cases of anaphylaxis, Bell's palsy, ultimately 1,287,5,000. 93 reports of injury from the COVID vaccine. So keep your eyes on this. We've watched this game play out before. I'm telling you, I think we know where this is going. But by the way, this time, unlike that time, Politico's watching. We now have newspapers that are saying, hey, man, I didn't like being forced to have this vaccine to work at my paper. And I'm really starting to get nervous when I'm seeing how many people are dying from SADS. Right. Right. And you know, if this was just the United States phenomenon, you could say, okay, well, maybe something's going
Starting point is 00:32:35 in the United States, but the UK, members of Parliament are pushing a vaccine injury bill there as well because they're being overwhelmed. This is the headline here. Members of UK Parliament push for the COVID-19 vaccine damage bill. This is what this is called. You can search this, COVID-19 vaccine damage bill. It actually calls for an independent group to investigate the damages, the deaths and the injuries. So if that stays as an independent group, that would be very powerful. A very powerful situation. So you mentioned, you know, you mentioned the pressure from government to vaccinate. You know, here in the U.S., we can travel freely within the United States.
Starting point is 00:33:12 We can travel freely between states. We don't have any type of restrictions as far as vaccine passports or anything like that. Not so lucky in Canada still. They're still dealing with this. This is an editorial there basically begging, trying to set this policy right. Editorial Trudeau needs to drop the COVID theater. It says travel industry groups are not. now calling on the feds to make three changes, remove on-site mandatory testing from airports,
Starting point is 00:33:35 remove public health agency of Canada, duplicate health check questionnaires, and remove vaccine mandates for border and airport workers. And it says it is simply embarrassing to see, as has recently happened, professional sports teams drive across the border rather than fly because they don't want to be bothered by the rigmarole of pandemic rules still on the books. Although that doesn't stop the big banks in Canada, they have lifted their restrictions. which I guess would be a good sign. You're seeing that. Typically that crunch point is the travel mandates.
Starting point is 00:34:05 We saw that with the CDC trying to desperately hold onto that masking on the travel. But this is the headline here. Canada's big five banks move away from mandatory COVID-19 vaccine policy. That's good news. And over in Austria, similar things, they're still dealing with what they call the Green Pass. That's the European Union's name for the vaccine passport. And this is the headline out of Austria, really some bad news for them over there. How Austria's Green Pass rules will change.
Starting point is 00:34:30 this summer. It says from August 23rd, three vaccinations will need to be, will need to be entered in the Green Pass for people to be considered fully vaccinated in Austria. Previously, proof of recovery from an infection with COVID-19 and one or two vaccinations could be substituted for being vaccinated. So forget about natural immunity in Austria on August 23rd. Expect to see protests. I'm sure we'll be covering those stories because people are not going to like that. But is there a way to get away from these vaccine passports? Well, in Spain, apparently there is. There was an investigation by the federal police and they caught a bunch of people and I guess what would be like a vaccine passport sting. This is a shocking headline. It's really incredible. Listen to this. Big pharma boss caught faking his COVID vaccination status injected himself with salt water instead now facing criminal charges. It says police have charged Jose Maria Fernandez Sosa Faro, the president of European pharmaceutical bohemist, Pharma Marr, with being falsely vaccinated against COVID-19.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Dr. Sosa-Farar is embroiled in a European controversy involving individuals, many of whom are well-known figures being added to the National Immune Registry in exchange for large sums of money. Dr. Sosa-Farro is among more than 2,200 celebrities and European elites on the list drawn up by the national police of those falsely vaccinated against COVID. According to El Mundo, that's the newspaper reporting,
Starting point is 00:35:59 Spanish police carried out, the investigation called Operation Jenner, which uncovered the vast network of celebrities and elites who have paid money to have their names fraudulently, fraudulently entered on the National Immunization Register despite refusing to be vaccinated. And it says here, this is the kicker. According to the police who are investigating the 2200 false COVID-19 vaccination certificates, the fee was dependent on your social standing. The more important you were, the higher the price you paid. You got to wonder if that's going on in other countries like the United States. Yeah, I mean, how many, how many professional athletes, you know, had a doctor squirt a vaccine into a trash can, you know, how many people
Starting point is 00:36:42 in power? I've even heard inside sources, inside CDC, FDA, you know, saying that, you know, they're cheating in here. Now, here you have a guy that works in the pharmaceutical industry. So he should know, if anyone's going to know what's going on there, and this guy's paying a fortune in order to keep from putting this thing in his body. In some ways, I guess it's unfortunate that they got caught. I guess, you know, they were trying to just live a naturally healthy life. And the only way they sought to do that was by, I guess, fraudulently providing state documents. But I think we're going to see more of these types of things. It makes you think about how you move forward in a world like this. I mean, this is, again, we laugh, but it's very dystopian, right?
Starting point is 00:37:27 If you haven't gotten that injection, if you don't have that, you know, serum running through your veins, are their machines that are going to detect that? You know, are we going to have a dye or something that appears and everything? All this has been discussed. All these thoughts are out there and those technologies are being worked on as we speak. Right. How many of these people, the 2,200 celebrities and elites, as they say in this article, how many of these people were on the front end pushing this through, you know, PSAs or through commercials
Starting point is 00:37:52 or pushing it because they're a sports celebrity? And then on the back end, the hypocrisy of this is just jaw dropping. It is. It's amazing. Jeffrey, amazing reporting. You know, you keep rocking it out. We've got our eye on the prize and things are starting to shift. So, you know, we'll stay on it. I look forward to talking to you next week. All right, Del. Thank you. Right. Take care. So if you like the Jackson Report, which I know so many, by the way, as I travel, I've been traveling a lot. I was in multiple states just over this weekend. I was in Atlanta. A great event.
Starting point is 00:38:25 the Next Steps Conference there. And then I went up to Michigan to the PAC event there for Michigan's for Health Freedom. And, you know, everywhere I go, everyone says, why is Jeffrey Jackson out with you? I want to meet Jeffrey Jackson. We all love Jeffrey Jackson. It is truly, you know, one of the great parts of the Highwire. We couldn't do it without him. But he actually goes even more depth.
Starting point is 00:38:48 If you want to get into depth on his stories, go check out the Jackson report at thehighwire.com where he, you know, gets back to his roots, which is writing and he gets into a lot of detail, really awesome reporting going on there. Okay. So, you know, one of the things that we're tracking, I told you we should keep our eye on monkey pox and how they're talking about it. Remember, they script this things. We've showed you how the news scripts these things out, how they all start changing, you know, their language together. But one of the things that we have to keep our eye on is, you know, Amercron or is just the SARS COVID-2 virus, right? All of these variables. And we have talked to multiple scientists, including here at Van de Boch, talking about the pressure we're putting on this virus with this massive vaccination program that has never taken place in the history of the world. We've never vaccinated this people for one disease all at one time. And so last week I reported that Memorial Day weekend, they reported that we had, I think, six times the amount of SARS-CoV-2 infections in the U.S. than we did the previous Memorial Weekend.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And luckily, Omicron is mild, but we are all watching to see, does it remain mild as it continues to, you know, mutate? And so some of the headlines in America are alarming. There appears to be some new variants on the way. This is what it says, Battle of Omicron, this is deadline. Battle of Omicron being won by new BA4 and BA5 variants as overlapping COVID waves hit the U.S. It goes on to say estimates released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention today indicate that the share of cases tied to Amacron variants, B84 and B85, increased 79% in just the past week.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Now, I don't think we have to be super alarmed at the moment because this BA4 and B85, we looked at the CDC website, appears to be making up right around 13% of the total amount of SARS-CoV2 cases in the U.S. But as they're saying, it's growing 79% per week. But this is a headline that grabbed my attention on substack. BA5 is a variant for boosted people. South Africa versus Portugal. Same variant opposite outcomes.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Now, one of the things about this, this is an independent journalist named Igor Chutoff, but he's being shared on Twitter and different social media platforms. And he has been on many articles. So when I dove in this article, I said, wow, this guy is really laying out facts and graphs in a way so compelling, I decided, you know what, I got to meet this guy. I want to see, you know, first of all, about this article, but how he's gotten into this material and what got him in the middle of this. So it's my honor and pleasure right now to be joined by Igor Chudeoff.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Igor, thank you for joining us today. Thank you for inviting me, Del. All right. So this article, I found very interesting, but I want you to take us through it. You know, you're looking at these new variants. B4, but especially five. Why are you comparing Portugal and South Africa? What made you decide to do that? These are two major countries where there's two variants. They're called sister variants because they're so similar. They predominated and specifically BA5 in Portugal as well as South Africa. However, the
Starting point is 00:42:13 outcomes were so different that it seemed worth writing about. So here we have some slides. Now you're saying that Portugal and South Africa, they're the main, the main, variant right now is this BA5 right what is the difference what are you seeing this different and what is your conclusion on that I was struck by how different is the amount of deaths and cases in both of these countries especially compared to their own history in January when everybody had Omicron and somehow for South Africa this latest so-called wave of BA4 or 5 which I will just refer to as BA5 it's a very minor way it's it's it's really
Starting point is 00:42:51 a blip on the radar, barely noticeable, both in cases as well as deaths. In Portugal, however, it's a huge wave of illness, followed a couple of weeks later by a large wave of deaths, similar to what they experienced in January. This is daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million. You can see Portugal's starting to rise up, you know, moving towards some of the highest that they've seen in a long time. If you look back those blue lines, it goes way back. South Africa is the opposite. They've already come out of their high death rates and they're dropping down and not being affected right now at all by this new variant. And so both of these having very different outcomes from this variant,
Starting point is 00:43:33 what then, so what did you find separates them? Why are they different? These countries aren't exactly identical, but they're similar in many ways. Portugal has better medical care, a little older population. South Africa has HIV. But these are the two countries we can compare because they both have this BA5 wave. And Portugal has six times more deaths. Why? What's so wrong in Portugal? What didn't go right?
Starting point is 00:44:02 And the only answer is their vaccination rate, which Portugal was described as a country where there is nobody left to vaccine. Wow. Unfortunately, it doesn't help them. Right. So they're fully vaccinated. They've got vaccinated. They're much higher than we reported. just last week on our show, I think South Africa is somewhere in the 30. I think they're under
Starting point is 00:44:24 40% of them are vaccinated. Portugal, as we saw that headline, nobody left to vaccinate. That's how vaccinated they are. And now they're having a rise in deaths. And so that is quite alarming. So is that the, so those are the trends that you're looking at? Yes, that's correct. The deaths in fact keep rising so far. So we won't know how far it will go from now and I wish it doesn't but it looks very alarming and the difference between the rate of deaths between these two countries is very telling that suggests that the reason why BA5 is so much worse in Portugal is that it mostly infects and reinfects the vaccinate most Portuguese people like just about everywhere else already had COVID well it's there another major wave
Starting point is 00:45:17 and it's a reinfection driven and B BA5 is especially good at reinfecting the vaccinated and the boost. Wow, look at this. We have this headline out of Medrex IV. SARS-CoV-2-Amacron, BA2-12, BA4, and BA5 subverins evolved to extend antibody evasion. Very alarming when we start seeing, you know, in many ways, this is a form of something that we've been talking about on this show, you know, immune enhancement or disease enhancement, where the vaccine, are you saying that you. believe the vaccine is helping this virus be more deadly if it's inside of you versus in Africa where we're seeing that people aren't vaccinated, they're not having that sort of disease
Starting point is 00:46:02 enhancement being caused by the vaccination. Is that essentially what you think you're seeing here? Yes, Dahl, there is a little bit of good and bad news here. And the bad news is that the virus has evolved to take advantage of this non-neutralizing antibodies. And that's why Portugal has so many deaths and cases right now. However, the unvaccinated South Africa isn't getting reinfected in the major way. So the good news here is for those of us who weren't vaccinated or boosted, those people can expect a better outcome. Are you aware of Gert van der Boch, the Belgian scientist,
Starting point is 00:46:45 that has been reporting that he believes the vaccination is going to, pressure this virus to mutate into a space where it becomes more deadly and, you know, infectious for the vaccinated? Are you aware of his work? Yes. And in fact, though, what my latest article talks about his predictions specifically. It's not the one we're discussing. However, I believe him to be correct. And also, I have my own thoughts on what constitutes the more deadly variant and it might not be what people expect they think that something super deadly would look like the plate you know a terrible illness that kills people in a day or five days or a week instead i think the deadly variant is the waves of covid that come and go and keep infecting people and keep
Starting point is 00:47:32 taking them down and that's why we're seeing the incredible amount of deadly flu in australia people are having flu reportedly that doesn't clear for 10 days and that suggests that they have a immune problems. They can't clear a regular flu virus that they've had for years and now suddenly instead of a couple of days, their flu takes 10 days. Their COVID-reinfections come one after another and COVID is immune suppression. So that's a deadly recession of troubles that I am afraid might end not so well for the people at that. Yeah. You know, it's just the reason I brought you on is you You don't have a medical background, correct? You're just an independent journalist.
Starting point is 00:48:14 No, no, I don't. All right. I'm a journalist. I'm a researcher. I am a business owner, but it's something that I deeply care about because of some of my loved ones were unfortunately affected by vaccination. And I found this topic to be very interesting. And this is why I'm coming. And, you know, it seems clear to me because you provide what I liked about your article, you provided your evidence.
Starting point is 00:48:36 You showed us the studies where they're coming from, where these graphs are coming from. you're not making them yourself. Are you surprised? Because I know I'm surprised. When I watch mainstream media, I even watch doctors like Sanjay Gupta on CNN, and I never see a graph. I never see any, you know, data being produced by, you know, anyone.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I mean, it's just like they tell us things that don't seem to make a lot of sense. Do you feel like we should be seeing more evidence of the things that are being stayed by mainstream media? One of my major disappointments with what I see in COVID response is the so-called health experts. You know, these are the people I used to think actually know something. And regrettably, I see unfounded opinions. I see recommendations that disagree with the most obvious evidence that they could see by walking on a nearby train station.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And sadly enough, there is no logical basis for a lot of things that the health experts are discussing and there's a lot of topics that they don't seem to be one to touch, for example, reinfections of vaccinated. Right. Well, I'm glad you're doing it. I'm really glad you wrote this article and it brought our attention to it. So, I mean, if at the very least I want you to know, and I think you are a representation to so many people out there that come up and say, you know, what am I supposed to do?
Starting point is 00:50:00 I feel like this thing is so much bigger than me. There's so many lies. How can I refute what the news is doing? yet I feel like you've proved that. You're an independent journalist. You've picked up, you know, you've got a great substack that everybody should check out. And there's a lot of scientists and doctors
Starting point is 00:50:15 actually sharing Igor's work because as I pointed out, he's showing his data. He's showing where it's coming from. But, you know, I just want to point out. I think this may, is this maybe your first news interview on the topics that you're covering? Yes, though, it is. And I'm very excited and nervous about it.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Thank you. Okay. You're bringing you open. Well, I want to thank you. Thank you for taking the time because what I want to show is by doing the work you've done, teams like mine that have international scientists, and by the way, it was someone over in England that pointed out your substack to us. It actually makes a difference, and now millions of people are going to be look at this comparison, and we will continue to track Portugal compared to South Africa.
Starting point is 00:50:57 I want to thank you for doing that work and showing your work and your data so that we could trust what we were talking about. And I'm glad that we have, you know, as I say, prepared you, for television because I think there's more of it in your future. So well done. And great article. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you, Dahl. It was a pleasure and done.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Okay. Take care. Well, I mean, just to sort of sum that all up, why does this all mean? We are worried about this, right? We're worried about variants that, you know, use the vaccine to infect more, to re-infect, and to ultimately lead to more deaths and hospitalizations. Well, when we think about the United States of America, I want to point out what we said in the beginning. It appears right now that this BA4 and 5, very similar, right now they're making up about
Starting point is 00:51:50 13% of the total cases in the U.S. So it's not a big deal for us right now. But it does appear, there's many articles saying it is far more. infectious than any other amacron variants so far. So it's continuing to grow in its infectiousness. If what we're seeing in Portugal is true, it does appear that it is now getting around many of the issues that we're protecting people. It could be making them, you know, more hospitalizations and leading to more deaths.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Maybe it's exactly what Igor said. Maybe it's just simply the constant being sick because your immune system has been beat up by the vaccine, that it'll kill some people and others. but over time we will see this rise and deaths, or maybe it'll be something dramatic, against what he said, where it's just a very bad variant. But just we decided to sort of track where would it be in America. We now know that it's right about 13% when we started looking at the data last week. Was it about 7%?
Starting point is 00:52:46 It's growing about 79% per week. And so we crush that data together. And if it continues to grow at 79% per week, then right around June 24th, Here's what we sort of charted out for you. As we try to watch what this does in America, somewhere around June 24th would be where this ends up dominating, being the dominant strain. We will watch this.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Are we going to see a rise in hospitalizations, a rise in deaths? Obviously, I pray that that's not the case. I pray that the human body, whether it's vaccinated or not, is capable of, you know, blocking this or keeping from getting too sick. But this is what we're tracking here at the highwire. I know you're not seeing it on CNN. I know you're not seeing it on MSNBC or Fox or anywhere else. Nobody else is really, truly looking at the data and the science
Starting point is 00:53:38 that could potentially affect our lives. And yes, I have doctors reaching out to me from all around the country and even here in Texas. They're telling me we are seeing some sort of rise in hospitalizations right now, though they're not sure what it is. So everybody, I'm just saying, you know, we've got to stay healthy. We've got to stay on top of things. And we cannot let ourselves go back into lockdowns and all this insanity that will happen. If this ends up being a deadly
Starting point is 00:54:06 virus for the vaccinated, what does that mean for the unvaccin? Do I have to be locked down? If I'm like I would be in South Africa where it doesn't affect me at all, how are we going to move through this in the future? It's a serious question, especially when we start seeing more and more that the lockdowns that took place over the last two years actually did affect our immunity, did affect our health outcomes. Much of that, I think, is being portrayed in ways we may not see it, like weird illnesses with our children. Take a look at this. Growing concerns about a mysterious illness affecting children around the world. Health officials are sounding the alarm about a mysterious new outbreak of severe hepatitis in young kids. There is another virus besides
Starting point is 00:54:51 COVID impacting our children. We're talking about RSV. Doctors say they've been seeing more cases of respiratory, sensational virus or RSV in infants and young children. An outbreak of RSV, it's a highly contagious seasonal respiratory virus that mostly affects children. The CDC's nationwide alert is warning doctors to look for severe inflammation of the liver in otherwise healthy children. The World Health Organization says that at least 650 children have been diagnosed with this severe infections since early April. What is striking about this is the number of cases in the period of time and kind of all over the world and also following this huge pandemic. Doctors and health experts are truly baffled and don't know why these children are getting
Starting point is 00:55:36 hepatitis, but health investigators are casting a wide net to get to the bottom of these rare outbreaks. Officials say they're exploring a possible new link between hepatitis and adenovirus commonly linked with colds. Not every child with severe hepatitis. was also found to have had adenavirus type 41. Researchers say any number of viruses, environmental toxins, even medication can cause severe hepatitis. So it will be a while before researchers can solve this puzzle. So many puzzles, so little time, it seems, in the hands of scientists
Starting point is 00:56:10 that have apparently gotten just about everything wrong. And what I'm about to talk about now, I think, is one of the greatest mistakes ever made in science history. I have said time and time again on this show, And the most boggling part of this whole experience of lockdowns and masks is the people that decide to go along with it. All of my friends, like Whole Foods in Texas. I mean, you were free to go around without a mask almost everywhere in Texas, except the one place you go for your organic food, for your vitamins, for your minerals, for your minerals and things like that. This is the place where we're all masking down.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I'm thinking myself, what is your understanding of health for your child? It's not just taking vitamins and eating healthy, but being involved in your environment, breathing the air. I mean, what was this doing to our kids? I mean, this is what is going through my mind every time I'm seeing these weird illnesses popping up. But what was so shocking is this week, apparently, it's not just, you know, thinking from the high wire or all of these, you know, alternative media sources.
Starting point is 00:57:07 It is now hitting the mainstream. Check this out. This is stat news. Viruses that were on hiatus during COVID are back and behaving in unexpected ways. Look what they go on to say. And remember, this is a very medical paper. These viruses are not different than they were before, but we are, for one thing, because of
Starting point is 00:57:27 COVID restrictions, we have far less recently acquired immunity. As a group, more of us are vulnerable right now. And that increase in susceptibility experts suggest means we may experience some wonkiness as we work toward a new post-pandemic equilibrium with the bugs that infect us. The past two winters were among the mildest influenza seasons on record, but flu hospitalizations have picked up in the last few weeks. In May, not in the winter, in May. Adina virus type 41, previously thought to cause fairly innocuous bouts of gastrointestinal illness, may be triggering severe hepatitis. We were just seeing that in the news pieces in healthy young children. And babies born during the
Starting point is 00:58:06 pandemic may have entered the world with few antibodies passed on by their mothers in the womb, because those mothers may have been sheltered from RSV and other respiratory pathogens during their pregnancies, said Hubert Neister's, a professor of clinical virology and molecular diagnostics at the University Medical Center in Gronengan, the Netherlands. There was other articles and headlines, but I want to get to my guest. Here's one of them. COVID restrictions, stunted kids' immune systems could explain surge of other illnesses, scientists say.
Starting point is 00:58:36 So this is now finally mainstream, something that once again, a giant I told you so here on the high wire, but I wanted to talk to a doctor that is in the middle of the middle of of this all the time. Specializes in autoimmune diseases and issues in childhood illnesses. James Nguyen Schwander, a really good friend of the show, Board Certified Emergency Integrative Medicine, Integrative and Holistic Medicine. You get it. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:59:00 The list goes on and on. He's well accredited, but let's get to the point. I'm honored to be joined right now by Dr. James Newen Swander. I know you were just treating patients. We got you live right here to speak with us. But first of all, you deal with autoimmune. issues and you deal with children. How important is it that we be directly involved in our environment, breathing germs and viruses and touching them, touching our face, something we've been told
Starting point is 00:59:29 this is really, really bad. What is your perspective on that when we think of how we raise our children? Yeah, well, first of all, I think you need to subtitle this whole show. It's not nice to mess with Mother Nature because that's what you're seeing, COVID strains, and that's what you're seeing with these kids. You know, there's something called a hygiene hypothesis of health where we actually require exposure to some degree of pathogens continuously. And we know that people that grow up in environments,
Starting point is 01:00:02 like farm environments where they're exposed to animals are exposed to dirt, they actually have far less incidences of asthma, of allergies, of autoimmune disorders. And that benefit disappears when they move to a city, with a more sterile environment. So we've known that for quite some time. And I'm not saying go out to the septic tank and drink from the water.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I'm saying we need some of that exposure. And the scary thing about COVID with lockdowns and masks and all that stuff. And you can argue about whether masks stop COVID, but masks do stop bacterial particles. And you know, there's some, you're rebreathing your own waste gases basically. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:45 There's evidence that, But with the lockdowns, kids just have not been exposed to these organisms. And not just kids, adults, too, but it's really important with kids because they're developing that immune system, especially if they're under maybe seven or eight years old, you know, they have a very immature immune system and they require that continuous exposure for that immune system to develop properly. If not, it's just going to start reacting to things that shouldn't react to. And it's many levels.
Starting point is 01:01:14 It's not just the kid. You know, it's the mother who's breastfeeding. She wasn't exposed either because she was isolated. So she doesn't have the antibodies in the breast milk. The baby's not as protected against some of the things you were talking about, like RSV or these endoviruses or, you know, the entroviruses or some of these other things that are picking out. So it's kind of scary because, you know, they want to blame it. Oh, you know, we were locked down. So we weren't interacting with each other.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Now we're unlocked. And all of a sudden, of course, these things are going to explode because now we're all. all together again. But the reality is, especially this enterovirus, not enterovirus, they adenovirus and hepatitis link. Yeah. Because that's not unheard of. I mean, we know that adenovirus can cause hepatitis, but it almost always is an immunocompromised children, all right? It almost never causes hepatitis in a healthy kit. And then now all of a sudden you have these outbreaks. And I know the CDC had a, yes, this outbreak in Alabama, this is one hospital. They had nine kids.
Starting point is 01:02:21 I think three of them required liver transplants or something like that. I mean, very, very sick. But these were all kids that did not have any history. They were not immunocompromise. They did not have another medical condition. All they had was adenovirus 41. And what's important here is that one reporter said, you know, not everybody tested positive. In this case, when they tested, you know, a stand.
Starting point is 01:02:45 where you spin down the blood and you test the serum. Yeah, a bunch of them were negative. But when they tested the whole blood, they were all positive. So clearly it was the adenovirus 41 that was causing the hepatitis and otherwise healthy kids. Why would that be? Well, something has to be wrong with their immune system for that to be happening. And that something could be two years of not being exposed to things that should have been exposed. And what's so interesting about it, Dr. New and Schwander, is that it didn't just happen in one area,
Starting point is 01:03:12 that it was sort of this outbreak all at once all around the way. all around the world. We were seeing it in different countries. Where did this outbreak come from? What was it? I mean, you could imagine if, like, you know, one group is near some smokestack that's putting out something, lowering immune systems or radiation or something like that. But when you see something happen at the same time all around the world, you've got to look for that common denominator. And the one common denominator of kids all around the world was these lockdowns. And so when you think about the lockdowns, let me just ask you a question, because I'm curious about this. On one hand, I'm saying, does this mean lockdowns in some ways they work, that they actually
Starting point is 01:03:48 do stop viruses? I mean, it makes me sort of question, you know, all the perspectives, even though all the studies we see show us that the lockdowns had virtually zero effect on stopping transmission and the rise in infections from SARS-CoV-2. But let me ask you this. When we talk about lockdowns, there's several different parts to it. One of it is the fact that we didn't go outside. We were locked in our houses.
Starting point is 01:04:13 in California, I remember they arrested a guy for surfing by himself in the ocean. I mean, that level of insanity, no exercise allowed, no sun. Is that the bigger issue? Or is it wearing a mask all the time as a part of the lockdowns that will lead us to these issues? Or is it the social distancing? Is it the fact that the kids weren't touching each other and rolling around with each other? Obviously, you know, sneezing and spewing all over each other the way they normally would have, we have these horrifying images of them behind plastic barriers, six feet apart, eating their sandwiches by themselves, you know, contemplating suicide at the age of four. But of all these issues, what do you think leads us to this problem? What would be the most likely
Starting point is 01:04:57 scenario of those lockdown decisions? Well, I, you know, again, I'm very biased because of the work that I do with kids on the autism spectrum and just understanding what happens to kids when, you know, their immune system gets dysregulated and they get antibiotic after antibiotic after antibiotic and their gut biome is completely messed up. You know, for the last, I don't know, 15 or 20 years, we've had this rebirth of interest in the biome, in the fact that we are not a single organism. We're an ecosystem and we're an ecosystem that lives within a larger ecosystem, right? I mean, this is what Zach Bush talks about all the time. And if we are not equilibrium with that ecosystem around us, then we're going to develop illness.
Starting point is 01:05:46 So of all those things you mentioned, to me, the worst thing is the lack of exposure to other people. Now, whether that's social distancing or that's complete lockdown, I'm not sure, but it's the lack of exposure to other organisms. You know, we know that you could, you can order what are called germ-free mice. So these are mice that have no bacteria in their gut. We use them all the time in research to to look at gut biome and the effect of this or that, organism on behavior or health or whatever. But these germ-free mice, if you don't give them a biome, they're very sick. They don't gain weight properly. They don't run mazes.
Starting point is 01:06:23 They're anxious. They have all kinds of mental health disorders. They get sick. They get autoimmune disorders. And it's all because they don't have the exposure. I mean, to me, that's the more important thing. You know, the trouble with lockdowns, theoretically, if every single human being on this planet went into a hermetically sealed container and didn't come out until the virus was gone,
Starting point is 01:06:44 that might work. I'm not sure, but that might work. Anything less than that is never going to work. And you can ask Australia or New Zealand or these places that just lock down hard, right? The problem is you have to lock down until there is no virus left. And according to Dr. Fauci, we have to learn to live with it. So obviously, we didn't get rid of the virus. All we did was help that virus evolve into something new and something more infectious. so that when you unlock, your entire country is going to get sick in a week. You know, I mean, that's what's happened in these places. So, you know, obviously the lockdowns did not change anything.
Starting point is 01:07:17 And I just, you know, for the people that I talked to that just think, oh, it was great, that, you know, masks, we need to go back because the numbers are going up and all this stuff. It's like, wait a minute. How long we've been talking about this? Two and a half years? You know, I mean, if this worked, you don't think two and a half years was enough time for these policies to work? Right. Right. They just have it. The vaccine's been a failure. Masking's been a failure. Lockdowns have been a failure. You know, social distancing has been a failure. And these hand sanitizers, I'm sorry, throw them away. Yeah. This was more a contact disease. You know, if you don't want to get, you know, some anerovirus, well, yeah, by all means, wash your hands. But, you know, using, you know, Norwalk or Coxacki or these enteroviruses that are causing polio-like syndromes. Yeah, wash your hands. You know, but don't be putting some toxic.
Starting point is 01:08:07 It's a crap on your hands eight, ten, twelve times a day. What I mean, wouldn't you say it would be a good idea? I mean, I know this seems extreme, but we should probably be carrying around the soap that we recommend for our kids, give them something because we are still constantly. Every public place, you know, I want to wash my hands. And I'm thinking, what am I putting on my hands? What is, what product is here? Am I wiping out my entire biome on my hands? Millions and billions of good viruses battling bad viruses, you know, only to let Mercer,
Starting point is 01:08:37 spread loose on my body at some point. I mean, all of that has a risk factor. And we are just, we've so, we've so been so used to, you know, letting the world or the buildings and the businesses we're going to make our choices for us. And now we're seeing that that could have really detrimental long-term effects. Right. Yeah, I mean, you have to remember whatever you're using, whether it's an antibiotic or it's an antiseptic soap or it's a hand sanitizer. or you're going to knock out the most vulnerable organisms, and those are the ones that usually are protecting you. And what's going to survive are the more aggressive organisms?
Starting point is 01:09:15 So, yeah, you're just going to promote the growth of organisms that are much more likely to cause problems by doing all this stuff. You know, so again, there is not, because I start talking about hygiene hypothesis and people are like, oh, really, you don't want me to wash my hands before I eat dinner. But, you know, all this sort of stuff that has come from what two centuries, of Louis Pasteur, you know, it's not like I'm telling people to go out and don't do anything for your personal hygiene. It's not like that. There is a sweet spot, a middle zone that we have in everything in medicine. You know, you can be too high, you can be too low. You want to be just right. You want to be in
Starting point is 01:09:54 that Goldilocks zone. And it's the same with exposure. You know, I'm not saying go out into a tuberculosis ward and hang out for a week, you know, I'm saying walk around with other people that look healthy because They're going to have organisms you've never seen. And by getting those organisms, you're going to improve the diversity of what, of your biome, of what's living on and in you. And that's the key to health. I mean, they've shown this over and over again with the gut. The more diverse your gut biome is, the healthier you are.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Not just your healthier your gut is, but the healthier your immune response, the healthier hormones. And the more healthy this thing is, too. You know, it all goes together with the diversity of the environment. that you're in. So if you lock yourself down, you become like that germ-free mouse and you're anxious and you're cowering in a quarter and you're depressed and you can't run a maze and you're going to get the next autoimmune disorder and the next infection that comes down the pike. What is the best way for us to reintegrate? I mean, I know right now, and frankly it's weird,
Starting point is 01:10:57 I'm seeing kids still being masked by their parents. And let's just say for some reason, they accidentally happen upon the high wire here. Should we be careful when we come out of a lockdown to just rush our kids right back in? Is there, you know, do we have to be, you know, gently move them into society, you know, start going back to normal practices like kids like actually wrestling with each other? Or is it, do we just go, just jump right in, hole hog and say it's over? Do you have any recommendations there? I know I didn't pre-ask you any of these questions, so I'm putting you on the spot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:33 This is like you're asking. my personal opinion and whatever I say is my personal opinion. Because as far as I know, there are no prospective placebo-controlled double-blind studies to answer that question. But I mean, this is my belief system. You know, I'm a firm believer in my own immune system. I'm a firm believer in nutrition. And so if you have a kid who's healthy, and again, it's all the ifs, what are the circumstances? There you go. Give them a bunch of watermelon and dirt. So, but if you got a kid that's otherwise healthy, you know, doesn't have a reason for you to be concerned about their immune response. If you've got good nutrition going into that kid, there's really no reason why that kid can't go
Starting point is 01:12:12 back out doing what kids are supposed to do, which is play with each other, you know, eat some mud pies and go get them exposed to their environment. You know, we started out the show talking about Ron DeSantis brought the $27 million lawsuit against Special Olympics. I was saying these are children that are of all the groups that you would focus vaccinate forced to vaccine to be a part of an event is these children that are going to have clear immune suppressed you know issues and things like that but just for a second I'm throwing a curveball you the big conversation FDA CDC everybody keeps moving more more towards more booster shots vaccines for kids as someone that deals with I
Starting point is 01:12:54 would say the results of vaccines in children what are your thoughts is that Is this vaccine worse than any vaccine you've ever seen before when it comes to kids? Or is it just more of the same? Is it the same problem? Well, it's very difficult to say it appears to be worse than any other vaccine we've ever had. I mean, that is just what the numbers look like. But those may be skewed just because we're vaccinating everybody at the same time. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Right. So normally, you know, we're going to give a measles vaccine. We're going to give it to 12-month-olds every year. That might be 4 million kids. and then we're going to give it to 4 million, five-year-olds, then a smattering of adults. But, you know, it might be 8 million, 10 million, 12 million, whatever it is, MMR vaccines per year. Here we're giving, I don't know what they're up to.
Starting point is 01:13:42 200 and something million. Yeah, like I think it's. Well, that's people. That's people. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. So, you know, 70% that got two vaccines, 20, whatever, 30%, got three vaccines, a handful got four.
Starting point is 01:13:55 So we, I don't know what the total number of shots is, but it's in the hundreds and hundreds of millions. And it's all within the last year and a half. So you're gonna see a lot more all at once because everybody got vaccinated all at once. But my experience with this is that it is just so much worse than any other vaccine that we've used. And this idea that we need to vaccinate,
Starting point is 01:14:17 you know, look at people just under 60. Forget about kids, just under 60. What's the morbidity or mortality of this disease under 60, particularly if you're healthy? It's essentially zero. I mean, you know, they don't even talk about these numbers. Under 70, it's 99.41% survival. Under 10, it's like zero.
Starting point is 01:14:37 I mean, at what point do you say that there's zero mortality? Does it have to be one in 50,000, one in a million, one and two million? I mean, the CDC's numbers from 2020, you know, healthy kids, eight kids died that were, that didn't have any other diagnoses. Eight out of 17 and a half million, that's one and two million. At what point do you call that zero? Why on God's earth would you vaccinate them for anything? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Number one, number two, why would you vaccinate them for Omicron with a vaccine that was designed for Wuhan? I mean, we know it doesn't matter. If you were vaccinated with, if you got a vaccine, if you had one of the, you know, Delta, Wuhan Alpha, one of the earlier variants, it didn't matter. You got Amacron. Everybody got Amacron. Amicron was so different from all the other strains that your immunity to the other strains almost didn't matter. Maybe you didn't have a severe case, but you still got. got it, right? And that's the whole problem. We reset that, that herd immunity clock back to
Starting point is 01:15:33 zero November 1st or December 1st when Omicron showed up, right? We reset it to zero because now everything is Amicron and if you've not had Omicron, you're not contributing to herd immunity. Well, if you're going to vaccinate for these strains that have nothing to do with Amicron, how is that going to work? You know, I say it's like we're going to treat a measles outbreak with the flu vexie. How well do you think that's going to work? What they're doing? And so, It's not even, you know, the vaccine for anybody right now doesn't make sense. Right. But especially for kids, they are at zero risk.
Starting point is 01:16:06 They are at such low risk. I mean, there's a handful that might benefit. But the vast, fast, vast majority, there's no benefit to them. So I don't care what the risk is. It's higher than the benefit for these kids. And under five, I'm sorry. I cried. You know, I cried when the FDA passed that.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Yeah. I mean, it's just horrible. This is not science. When you look at this science and what's happening, I mean, I know we've discussed, you look at is an agenda. The agenda seemed to be to try and get us all enrolled in the vaccine program. I feel like this week, when we were really looking at this with our team, I am seeing Facebook posts, Twitter posts, people saying, I thought the anti-vaxxers were a bunch of nutty loons. Now, after this last two years, I am bailing out, not just the COVID vaccine, this entire program.
Starting point is 01:16:57 I don't trust the CDC anymore. I don't trust the FDA anymore. I am seeing that everywhere. Also, as a research scientist and someone that's been involved in this, Dr. New and Schwander, I mean, there are so many studies all around the world. I mean, like a floodgate has opened of just various, a vast amount of different injuries from the COVID vaccine. And I think back to this idea of being wakefielded, right? They had so long implemented this fear upon every doctor that if you challenge the safety of a vaccine,
Starting point is 01:17:29 we will destroy your career just like we did Andrew Wakefield. I think those days are over, man. I think the floodglades are open. There are so many people, the Dr. Peter McCullough's, the Robert Malone's, the Geertband and Bosch's, all these guys, varying levels of belief in vaccines. They haven't all abandoned vaccines, but they're speaking honestly at such massive numbers now that I feel like there's a safety now, that it's no longer the threat it must have once been. What is going to happen now to the CDC, the FDA, as every scientist seems like they have been given
Starting point is 01:18:03 carte blanche to do the studies they've always wanted to do and ask the question, is this thing safe or not? Is it protecting or not? Is it causing all these other issues? I feel like we are in a huge awakening in medicine right now. Am I just overly optimistic? Well, I share your optimism. I mean, you know, it's it's not just people that are waking up. It's great that people are waking up and the percentages are huge now. I mean, you know, you've been with this movement long enough to have seen that move forward, you know, where we went from 20 or 30 percent questioning vaccines over 50 to over 70 percent. But it's doctors as well. I mean, the trouble with doctors is they're not, you know, I'm in a special position. I have my own practice. I'm not beholden to a. a hospital system or to some management team, you know, I can make my own decisions. But there are a lot of doctors out there that, you know, in private will say, you know, pat you on the back and say, keep doing what you're doing. I wish I could join you. So they're, you know, the thought process is there because they're seeing this stuff too. And, you know, we don't become doctors so that we can
Starting point is 01:19:09 watch our patients suffer and die. You know, that's not why we did this. Most of us became doctors because we want to help people, we want to help people heal and become better. And they're not teaching that. They're not showing that. You know, I think I'd talk to you about one of the meetings we're at together, you know, that that article by by Peter McCullough that was published in December of 2020, right? December of 2020, he published an article showing how to treat COVID. I mean, that article was downloaded millions and millions and millions of time. All right. So obviously there were plenty of people out there that were dying to know how do I treat my patients. What do I do for my patients? And that gives you an idea. But again, you're stuck in a system that says, no, you can't use ibermectin. No, you can't use fluvoxamine. No, you can't use any of the, you know, Budesinide, all the things that we use to treat successfully, treat COVID. You know, you can't use them because it's against our system's policies. It's scary. And I'm just, I'm looking at, are we going to come out of this with some common sense? You know,
Starting point is 01:20:16 let's reevaluate that vaccine schedule. Let's not look at vaccines as this thing that's completely free, doesn't harm anybody, one in a million. Don't worry about it. It's collateral damage. You know, and then let's reevaluate every vaccine and say, do we really need this vaccine? Yeah. Right? This vaccine going to kill, is this disease going to kill a bunch of people? Is this vaccine going to prevent that disease and what kind of side effects does this vaccine really have? And more importantly, how can we protect ahead of time who's going to be injured? Right. So we can protect them. You know, I think there's a really simple solution to all of this. And I think about this a lot. And I've decided that my jump off place, the place where I can say, I can, you know, sort of hang up my
Starting point is 01:21:03 boxing gloves, say mission accomplished. I think you solved most of this by just putting liability back on the industry, back on the manufacturers, back on the doctors, back on the hospitals. Go ahead and say you're liable for every death, for every heart attack, for every case of biocarditis. So what do you decide, since you made this great product, how many of the products do you think are safe enough and win out on that risk-reward ratio? I think we would suddenly get a very honest vaccine program there, and it wouldn't look anything like what we're looking at right now. No, either vaccines would cost $10,000. each to pay for all the liability settlements or we just wouldn't have them.
Starting point is 01:21:44 No, I agree with you 100%. You know, you can say what you want about the free market, but it has a certain sense of justice that nothing else really does. You know, if a product is garbage, it's gone. You might be able to fool people for a short period of time, but over any length of time, that product's not going to survive. And if a product causes harm, it'll come out. I mean, remember, Viox, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:06 there were doctors talking about the dangers of biocs early on, And they, you know, Merck tried to stifle them. And it was only a lawsuit that brought that out that Merck had all these, you know, internal memos saying, you know, we're going to seek out these doctors and destroy them where they lived. I think that's pretty much a quote of one of the one of the memos. And it gives you an idea of, if not overt evil, at least the business mindset of the people you're dealing with. You know, they're not interested in what's best for their customer, you know, they're interested in what's best for the bottom line. If you sit down with your bean counters and you say, we're going to make more money off this drug than we're going to
Starting point is 01:22:47 spend in wrongful death lawsuits, there's a definite issue there that needs to be addressed. But I agree with the 100%. Free market would take care of all this. And I would venture to guess, I don't know that we'd have any vaccines. I don't know which vaccine would survive that kind of challenge. Very interesting. My last question for you, because I think it's people watch, they think, oh my God, I wish this guy was my doctor. And you talk about how there's great doctors out there, but they're being controlled by a medical system. I mean, they are being forced to use remdesivir for COVID, to put people on ventilators
Starting point is 01:23:21 instead of giving them oxygen, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. They're going along with the system. People are at a place now where they are terrified to step foot into a hospital. You and I were just at an event together a few days ago up in Michigan, and some of the most horrifying stories I've ever heard of people bringing their loved ones, a husband, a wife, a mother into the hospital being banned from the room, even saying, I don't want, they don't want remdesivir, they don't want to be vented, all of that happened. They essentially murdered their, their loved one. We're seeing this everywhere. So do you have any thoughts on as we are in what maybe
Starting point is 01:23:59 an eye of a storm or maybe we're through it? I don't know where we're at, but, you know, there's this sense at any moment it's just going to kick off again. While we're in this break, is there a way we can find the right type of doctors that will give us better advice? Like, you know what, let your kids play in the dirt while this is going on, going to be better off instead of those that are just going to go on with this status quo, knowing full well that if they had the voice you had, they would speak their truth. Is there words? Is it functional medicine? What is it you think we should be looking for in perhaps a doctor that we would want available to our family should a crisis happen because you know god forbid i had a crisis last year you know this
Starting point is 01:24:37 you helped me through it if i hadn't gone to a doctor um i probably would have died so doctors have a time in a place no doubt about it how is it we find the good ones well yeah i certainly would start by looking at somebody that um either puts themselves out as a functional medicine doctor an integrated medicine doctor, but it's not just doctors. I mean, you know, you have nurse practitioners, you have physicians assistants, you have naturopathic physicians, you have chiropractors that are involved with this stuff. You know, and it depends state by state what the prescriptive powers are of the various licenses. But I would start there, you know, look for somebody who puts themselves out as a functional medicine physician. You know, and in pediatrics, I belong to the Medical Academy
Starting point is 01:25:25 pediatric special needs. I'm on their conference co-chair. So I put together their educational part of the conference, you know, looking at organizations like them, and that's medmaps.org, but looking at organizations like them for pediatricians. And I know locally, you know, our chapter of the, it's Michigan for vaccine choice, you know, they do sort of under the table, pay attention to which doctors are more friendly for vaccine choices. which doctors are more integrative sort of under the table. But actually looking for somebody that overtly says, yes, this is what I do. I'm not affiliated with this or that medical system.
Starting point is 01:26:06 You know, we make our own decisions and we're basing it on, you know, again, I started my clinic with the tagline treating illness at its source. And I don't know, I think that's what functional medicine is. I'm not even sure what it is, but it's the idea of, you know, rather than treating the symptom up here, digging down below the surface finding the cause and treating the root cause you know you need to find a physician like that and and you know how do you find these people well number one there's you know all kinds of facebook groups i don't want to advertise facebook but you know still there's a lot of the social media where you can connect with other parents to find out who's doing what you know compounding
Starting point is 01:26:43 pharmacies can be a great source it's like hey who you know which doctors are around that are using your services and you know a lot of times it'll be nudge nudge wink wink you know why don't you go see Dr. New. Those resources are out there, but you're right. You know, this is the eye of the storm. I don't, I mean, COVID's not going away. The numbers are going up. And all we need is that one mutation to take what's already highly, highly infectious version of SARS and make it deadly. Right? That's all we need. And then we will have infectivity of Omicron and the deadliness of Delta. You know, my phone was ringing off the hook, August, September, October, November. And then, When Amicron showed up, nothing.
Starting point is 01:27:25 And in the last month, yeah, I'm getting calls again. So, you know, I don't need to look at a chart. I can just look at how many calls do I get on a weekend with people saying they have Amicron. Whereas before, you know, people would tell me a month later, oh, yeah, I had Amicron. You know, I had a run an old for a couple. I was fine. You know, and now they're calling saying, you know, I'm feeling pretty sick. Well, look, Dr. Newell, I appreciate you taking the time.
Starting point is 01:27:48 That's all really valuable information. I appreciate that you were as vocal as you are, and I think it's getting less and less dangerous for guys like you to speak your truth, which is a good sign that we are in a massive growth spurt right now in America and I think around the world. But you've been a pioneer in this journey for so long, and I want to thank you for being one of the guiding voices
Starting point is 01:28:11 behind the scenes for the highway. A lot of people don't know how much we lean on you and your understanding and your work. So it's just an honor to have this much moment to speak with you about these issues. So thank you for taking the time. Well, thank you so much, Dylan. You just need to understand that you are one of the beacons for all of us. You know, when things get really dark, I turn on the high wear lifts me back up every time. I'm glad to hear it. That's what we're here for. You take care. All right. Well, like, I think Dr. New was really
Starting point is 01:28:42 touching on something that is so important. You know what? You can kill a couple of birds with one stone. If you want to figure out who those doctors are, what that network is in your area, why don't you get involved in this movement? I mean, this is what it's all about. Because no matter whether we keep our kids safe, we have our hidden secret doctor, there are laws constantly being passed. Right now, California is under siege with still insane laws that they're trying to pass, including letting a 12-year-old decide whether they should be vaccinated against their parents' will, which only sets up for strange adults taking your kid by himself or herself into a room and browbeating them to think that you have somehow misconstrued their life and their health
Starting point is 01:29:25 and that they should do what they're saying. I mean, it's so creepy and so strange. And when you see the people that are pushing these laws, you really've got to ask yourself what's going on here. But at the heart of this, all of this is around one of the fastest growing movements the world has ever seen. And I mean the world, not just America. the world. So if you want to find that doctor, why do you get involved in your local chapter?
Starting point is 01:29:48 Look up terms like health choice, medical choice, you know, vaccine freedom, whatever it is. And then find that group, get involved. And while you start helping them out, putting on, you know, the fundraisers are going to the Capitol or maybe door knocking here and there to try and help make this world a better place, you might want to ask someone working with you. You know what, by the way, what doctor are you using? You know, it doesn't, maybe it doesn't come easy. It's not just right there on Facebook. The best doctors are because Facebook is censoring and all of this is being controlled. So getting involved is your way to make a difference. And speaking of being able to make a difference, you know, we've been here for a few years now on the high wire. COVID has grown this
Starting point is 01:30:28 audience, all of you out there from hundreds of thousands of people to now millions of you are tuning in every single week. There's so much we want to do with that. And tuning in is great and sharing. It's great. But if you could start to get involved with putting your money where your eyes are. If you're watching right now and you've never put a single red scent towards the high wire, I love that you hear. I'm never going to guilt you too hard, but honestly, what did you pay for this week that you didn't need? How much did you pay for that dinner on Friday? Or how about the coffee you didn't need? Did you really need a third Starbucks cup of coffee this afternoon? And now that you can't sleep, one, you're laying there looking at your
Starting point is 01:31:05 ceiling, why you say, you know what, I could have given that $5 to the high wire and made a difference in the world. Why don't you start getting involved? For those of you, I'm not talking to those that are already involved, you know what I'm saying, but it's a very small percentage that decide to actually get involved, to vote with their dollars. And what I want to say to you is when you help us do this work, and by the way, it's not just this television show and it's not just the other series that we're working on and developing as we speak, or the hundreds of millions of dollars out there that need to be spent on lawsuits to win against the government and all that's out there, all of that is. All of that is, happening. I can't look at this page of legal wins that we've had. What other network do you watch
Starting point is 01:31:45 that by the way some of that money you were given CNN? We went and sued the government and won. This is what we're doing here. And there's a beautiful benefit that happens in your life when you actually decide whether it's even a dollar a month. When you sign up, watch what happens to your life. When you suddenly realize, oh, I'm no longer just sitting in a backseat waiting for everyone else to save my life. I actually felt like I did something today. And watch how you see the world around you. That's right. Just go to the high wire, click on donate, become a recurring donor. Decide what that amount is that has value in your life. What would it be worth for you to never have to see your kids pulled into a side dark room by strangers telling you their child that you're
Starting point is 01:32:26 a liar and that you are going to get them killed? What would it matter to have a world where that is not allowed where that's not legal? Guess what? We won that lawsuit in Washington, D.C. We stopped the 11-year-olds being able to choose a vaccine for themselves, the minor consent for vaccine. And guess who's going to bring a massive lawsuit in California the very second if they decide to try and pass that law? We will, and that's going to be expensive. And we are fighting for you and all of our children. Get involved and recognize how the world changes. And you realize, man, this really is a powerful movement of doers, of movers, of beers.
Starting point is 01:33:03 because you've become one. We see what we believe, not the opposite. We don't believe what we see. We constantly see what we believe. The world we create is the one that we believe in. So get involved. And then imagine once you've been involved, you'll be able to say,
Starting point is 01:33:24 hey, I made that happen. I made the richest man or one of the richest men in the world say something we never thought they'd say. You know, I'm talking about Bill Gates, right now. And a lot of us, you know, hear about, you hear the point that, you know, a broken clock is right twice a day. Well, this is similar. You know, every five million words that come out of Bill Gates's mouth looking to try and block out the sun or put herbicides and chemicals all over every piece of food that we eat or remanding us to synthetic foods for the rest of our lives. Every once in a while, there's a sentence that comes out that makes some sense.
Starting point is 01:34:00 And by the way, I'm a person that's looking for common ground. We need to find that common ground no matter who we're talking to. So this week, I have found common ground with Bill Gates. Believe it or not, it's happened. This came from Davos just last week. Listen to this. The idea of checking if people are vaccinated, you know, if you have breakthrough infections, what's the point?
Starting point is 01:34:25 I couldn't agree more, Bill. I could not agree more. If you have breakthrough infections, the vaccine is totally, useless, then why track anybody, why have any mandates, why do any of this? What's the point? Bill, we're aligned. Give me a phone call. There's a lot of work we could do together. All right. Well, there you have it. The world is truly changing. Cats and dogs sleeping together. It's an amazing time to be alive. I feel like we're in the middle of it. I feel like you and I and all of us in the informed consent action network. Can you feel it? Can you feel the world changing? Do you feel this giant
Starting point is 01:35:01 ship shifting, it's never going back. We're never going back. Every person we wake up now stays with us. Every time we talk to somebody, every time we have that conversation, we are growing, they are shrinking. The truth is rising, the deceit is falling. This is a fantastic time to be alive, and I couldn't be happier reporting on it every single week. I'll see you next week on the high wire.

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