The Highwire with Del Bigtree - THE MIGHTY MIGHTY BRAVE ONES

Episode Date: February 18, 2022

New Questions in Bob Saget’s Death; Media Changing its Tune; HIV On The Rise; Trudeau Takes Unprecedented Action Against Truckers; Jimmy Kimmel’s Friend and Announcer Speaks Out; Australia Rallies!Guests: Meryl Dorey, Julian Gillespie, Dicky BarrettBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are out there in this beautiful world. How about we all step out onto the high wire? Now, everyone in mainstream media, as you well know, has been promoting the vaccine from the beginning. Apparently, there's not a single reporter at any news agency, no executive producer that thinks that there's any problem with the vaccine that skips out of its long-term safety trials, uses an emergency use authorization, and then delivers it to the entire population of the United States. States of America, at least all that would accept it. We at the highway, as you well know, take a little bit of a different approach. We kind of consider ourselves, you know, maybe the beacons of the scientific method, if you will. And the scientific method being that no matter

what theory or what product is put out there by science, the job of science is to attack that theory, to attack that product with all the skepticism you can find, with all of the problems that you can muster up. And if that product or that That theory stands the test of time against all that scrutiny. Then and only then can we decide that it's safe. Now the reason I bring this up is because I think the scientific method is under attack by the U.S. government, by the WHO, by the entire world, but more importantly by about everybody in media.

And so today I want to revisit a topic that we have covered and we've been attacked for asking certain questions. And of course, what I'm talking about is a discussion about the untimely, the untimely, the passing of Bob Sagitt, the actor. This was the headline just a few weeks ago. Bob Sagitt dead at 65. It's a tragedy. He was a great actor known on Full House. So many of us watched that show, a great comedian, and certainly we are all going to miss him. Now, we decided on the high wire to ask the question, is it possible that his death could have been linked to the COVID-19 vaccine? Why did we make that connection?

Well, because he was talking about it all the time. The fact that he was getting the vaccines, getting the boosters, and maybe we all should. Here is one of the last videos he put out talking about how he had just received the booster. I love doing stand-up. I love touring right now. As you could tell, it just means a lot more now because people are, you know, some people are just getting out for the first time.

I'm touring the whole country trying to make people laugh. And so I just got my booster. I'm going to keep, I don't know what that's worth, because a new variant comes out every 10 minutes, but what the hell? I'm going to go make people laugh. Now, we discussed the fact that that was just weeks before. He got his booster. Several weeks later, he's found dead in his hotel room. Now, we didn't say it proves that the vaccine caused his death, but we thought that it should be a part of the investigation since we know things like myocarditis

and periocarditis and all sorts of blood clotting issues and strokes have been related to the vaccine, perhaps that's what happened to him. That was the question we were asking. Of course, the fact checkers attacked us, as they always did, because no one in the world is allowed to question this vaccine. Well, we don't care, but here's what the fact checker says. Fact check, social media posts falsely claimed Bob Saget died from COVID-19 vaccine booster. It goes on to stay down there.

Actor and Comic Bob Sagg was found dead on January 9th in a hotel room in Orlando a day after he had performed a set there. So one day after performing live, he was found dead. in his hotel room. Now, I'm sure most of you are aware that the autopsy is now in. We were all waiting for it. And of course, the media is on attack saying, see, we knew it wasn't the vaccine. Well, this is what the headlines look like right now. Bob Sagitt had catastrophic injuries to his head. Was COVID positive when he died? The autopsies have revealed. It goes on to explain, the beloved full house actor had posterior scalp abrasions, sub-gallel hemorrhage, which is blood that

forms between skull and scalp, discoloration in the upper and lower eyelids due to skull fracture, subdural hematoma, which is a buildup of blood on the surface of the brain, and subarachnoid hemorrhage, which is bleeding in the space that surrounds the brain. Now I know many of you that watch the high wire are very skeptical and wondering, is that really true? Are they trying to cover something up? Are they hiding something? And I was asking myself the same questions. How is it that someone like Bob Sagitt, who clearly is deeply involved with medicine and talking about going to the doctor, I'm not going to say he's a hypochondriac, but let's just say he's sensitive to being sick. This seems like a man that if he fell and hit his head that

hard would probably go to the hospital. So it's weird to think he hit his head. They found him in his bed afterwards, so he went to bed after hitting his head that hard. And I was just really, I'm telling you, this is how mine works. I was thinking, why would he go to bed? That just doesn't sound right. But then another video has appeared just last week that I think changed how I was thinking about this in my mind. Now, this video is very disturbing. If you have children, you may want to take them out of the room or cover their eyes right now. I know so many of you use this as a homeschool education moment, but this may very well be the worst advertisement for the COVID-19 vaccine in history. Take a look at this. I don't mean to brag. I don't care, but I want

to know double-vaxed, booster, flu shot, and I'm going to be honest, I have the shingle shot too. And I still get my period. What? Yes. Traveled, went to Mexico twice, did shows, meet and greets, never got COVID. Clearly, Jesus loves me the most. Seriously. So nice. So nice. I was comedian Heather McDonald during a stand-up act talking about all of the vaccines that she received and that how I think Jesus loves her. I'm not making, I don't want to make any joke here. Our hearts go out and our prayers for Heather McDonald, who's doing better. She's up and about.

She was able to be rushed to a hospital and taken care of. But what I want to talk about is look at this headline. Comedian Heather McDonald says she's recovering from skull fracture after collapsing on stage. go back to the Bob Saggett, the new reveal. Bob Saggett had catastrophic injuries to his head was COVID positive when he died. This article is being used to discount the fact that the vaccine might have been a part of his death. Do you see where I'm going with this? Now, let me just point out also that it said there that he had tested positive for COVID. Remember, this is one of our issues with the vaccine. Not only is it not protecting you, Bob Sagitt is out doing shows the day before

while positive of COVID because he got the vaccine. And they want to say that it's the unvaccinated they're spreading this. It's the vaccinated that are running around thinking they're covered because they got the vaccine. He is infected in a room full of people that are there to see him. That's just one point I want to make. But does that headline allow us to just take it out of the system and say, no, it couldn't have been caused by the vaccine? Well, I think we have to look to Heather McDonald now who did survive this because it did not happen somewhere in a hotel room that night.

where no one could see it. It happened in front of an audience where it was probably a nurse available that ran up onto the stage. They were able to get an ambulance, get her to the hospital, so she has survived it. So what would Bob Saggett be doing

if he had been on stage when it happened and he had survived it? Would he be asking questions of doctors like Heather McDonald did of TV doctor, Dr. Drew? Look at this. We looked back and I did get the booster, which I had double Pfizer

and Moderna boost. three weeks to the day of the fall. Is there anything that you've seen about time-wise? Because, you know, when I asked the doctors about that, and he said, oh, normally, okay, go ahead. Two to three weeks. Two to three weeks is where you see a lot of this stuff. I have a friend, I have a friend that got the booster,

and he got really destroyed by it. He still can't walk across the room. He's having all kinds of symptoms. There's a lot of funny stuff. We don't really know what it all is and where it's coming from, but it's still worth doing it. I'm not at the point where I'm saying that it's still worth the risk, but it's got a lot of funny side effects and syncope. It's called fainting is one of them. And I think it's from the POT syndrome, POTTS.

And so, and I was worried what I wanted to check was to make sure you didn't have any evidence of myocarditis, you know, when you were, you know, that's why I wanted that, which is an inflammation of the heart. and it changes the way the heart muscle functions a little bit. That's why I was red hot on that echocardiogram. Right. Yeah, I mean, you know, what can I do now? Yeah, I mean, I don't think I'm going to get the fourth booster, though. I will say that. I mean, there's so much to learn from that video alone.

Number one, you have Dr. Drew Pinsky, who we all grew up with Lovelin, all that, great television personality and also a doctor, expressing the timeline he is well aware of. Two to three weeks, he says. Two to three weeks, that is where these issues seem to be popping up. Lots of crazy things happening. I have a friend that still can't walk across the room. But by the way, go out and get this vaccine.

I'm not saying not to do that. I don't want to rip into him for that. I'm imagining that at this point, he has to make that statement so that he doesn't have like Neil Young boycotting him or something like that and keep holding on to his television show. This is the world we live in. But clearly, I highly doubt.

that he is recommending to his loved ones go out and get this vaccine when he is reporting. I know of many cases two to three weeks in that are having this syncope problem. He talks about myocarditis. And then, you know, Heather says, oh, what's that? I mean, do you realize what that means? That means that Heather McDonald has not gotten true informed consent.

She should be well aware that the documented side effect of this vaccine is myocarditis, periocarditis, yet this is the first time she's ever heard about it. Do you see the problems we have for this? medical system now. She is supposed to be fully informed of all the risks that can happen with this vaccine. Now, let's go back to the idea of Bob Sagitt. So Bob Sagitt, you know, he collapses, smashes his head, has bruising the eyes, which is why she's wearing her glasses, why he would probably be wearing his glasses if he had survived this. But my issue is this.

Everyone keeps making fun of the Verus system. Everybody keeps attacking us for wanting to investigate these strange deaths that are happening everywhere. But here's what we're at with VERS, 23,615 reported deaths from just the COVID vaccines. I want you to look at that for a second because we have reported through the years that death box is usually roughly four or 500 deaths every year with all of the vaccines we give everybody combined. So this means that we have hit a death rate now with this vaccine as far as reporting goes. These are obviously not confirmed, but when the reports look at the history of VERS, we have more. We have more. reports from this one vaccine than every vaccine combined since the beginning of the

VAERS system run by the CDC and yet no one in media seems to care no one at the CDC seems to care and you got to ask yourself why well if there's a problem wouldn't the CDC look into it I was thinking about that this morning and so I was thinking about talking about this and as I went through Facebook where I try to see what's going on and what people are saying I saw like seven ads from the CDC they look like this four things you can do to protect yourself from Omicron, get vaccinated. Another one.

I mean, they're just all over the place. Which COVID booster should I get? These are ads, they're being paid for by the CDC, meaning the CDC is the advertising arm for pharma when it comes to vaccination. You have to recognize that's the truth. Did you know that pharma can't advertise an emergency use product? They can't advertise a vaccine for pregnant women

because it hasn't been approved for pregnant women. That would all be illegal, but it's not illegal for our government, health agency to advertise it. Now think about this. The advertising arm for pharma when it comes to vaccines are the same exact people that are entrusted with testing the safety. And when they see a signal like that going through the roof, more reported deaths than any vaccine all put together since the beginning of the VAERS system, vaccine adverse events reporting system, they don't even look at it. They go, ah, nah, we don't trust that. We don't believe in it.

they do crazy things on bears like report car accidents. Well, let's just look at that. Some people rip into, well, you can't trust bears because even car accidents. This is an article that once we've brought up bears as evidence of vaccine harm, you can't trust it. Why? Well, because at first looked desolated to car accidents are even reported. Well, let's think about that for a second. Should we not ever report a car accident after vaccination?

Because think about this. If Heather McDonald was driving home just after her show when that has. happened to her and maybe it's dark out. She's on a bridge or there's oncoming traffic. Can you imagine how that story ends? Now, she doesn't get to investigate or skip the fourth booster shot or talk to Dr. Drew about the evidence that this is happening to so many people because she's now dead in a car accident, but we should never ever take seriously car accidents on bears. You see, this is the problem with the entire system. This is the problem with releasing an emergency use vaccine, one that hasn't been properly safety tested on every citizen in the United States of America that will take it.

Who is going to capture the injuries? If the advertising arm of pharma is the one supposed to be looking at, they're certainly not going to go against the billions of dollars spent on advertising. They're not going to take responsibility for having led you to plunging into a stage and crushing your head or a car accident or dying in a hotel room. They don't want to have that responsibility. And the easiest way to avoid that is to say, don't look at VERS. This is the problem. we now have. So all I have to say is this. When we look at doctors and doctors are supposed to report these things, you can say, well, you know, it's not fully vetted. I want to point out to you what the CDC shows us doctors are supposed to be thinking when they report to VERS. This is from the

VAERS system. It says this. Healthcare providers are encouraged to report to VERS any additional clinically significant adverse events following vaccination, even if they are not sure whether their vaccination caused the event. You see, here's the problem. You know, for a fact, there's no doctor on this earth that is going to say, hey, that car accident happened three weeks after I gave her that vaccine. I should report that to bears. It's not going to happen, folks.

The same rate, the CDC doesn't want to be responsible for deaths. The doctor doesn't want to say, I've had five people I've reported to bears for having died in my clinic alone. Not a very good advertising campaign. So who are we going to trust under these circumstances? The doctors are not supposed to be trying to decide whether or not the vaccine caused it. They're supposed to be putting every report that comes in up onto that system so that real scientists can look at the data and can look at strange anomalies that pop up.

Now, sure, vaccines probably don't cause car accidents. But what happens if you recognize that all of these car accidents, this giant group of car accidents are happening in right after, three weeks after a COVID vaccine, but not happening to those that didn't receive the COVID vaccine? maybe drownings or other things you would be doing that would get you killed should you suffer syncope. This is why we are not backing off of our investigations. We don't care that a head contusion is what we are now seeing from the autopsy. What we care about is should it or should it not be on bears so that real scientists and epidemiologists

can do their job correctly. That is the conversation we all need to be having because there may be problems that are going unnoticed. And I will tell you this. They want to tell you don't trust bears. We have told you, Harvard Medical School did an investigation, was paid a million dollars, and they said, Vairs is underreporting to the tune of less than 1% of vaccine adverse events are even being reported.

And people say, well, I don't know about that. I can assure you this. Bob Sagitt is not being listed as a death from COVID-19 vaccine. And I believe he should be at least listed and reported, and then let scientists decide whether or not it fits some sort of pattern that the rest of us will not see with the naked eye. All right. That's the high wire. That's how we do what we're doing.

I'm trying to show you why we are deeply investigating where no one else is. Okay, I have a huge show coming up. But first, I have an announcement. Last week, we really celebrated the California rally, the defeat the mandates rally coming to California. Well, if you weren't paying attention in the news just a couple of days ago, the truckers that we're going to start their drive, their convoy across America. We're going to meet us in California. They've all moved up the schedule for different reasons,

and so they're taking off early, which has shifted a lot of the conversation around this. Now, I want to say, people try to say we're an organized movement. We have all this funding and all this baloney out there in media. The truth is, is these are organic human beings making their own instinctual decisions, and we support all of that. But it has shifted the dynamic of what we're doing. So the organizers of the giant event in California have decided,

since the truckers are leaving early and we no longer need a location that can handle thousands of semi-trucks, why don't we move to a place where it's easier to be accessed by more people, more hotels, and a greater ability to draw up more people so that we can have the biggest march in history. In order to do that, they've decided to back off the date just a little bit. They're working on locking it in, but everybody make note to defeat the mandates, Rally in California is still to be determined. We're moving the dates to if you were making travel plans for March 5th, you can cancel them now. We are definitely going to do it a couple weeks or a few weeks after that.

We will be announcing whatever the organizers decide. We are still sponsors of that, along with many of the great organizations that are standing up for your freedom across this country, but they want to recalibrate and make sure they do it right in the right place, and we support that. For any of you that that has inconvenienced, I want to apologize, but this is the next natural state of a world that is changing every single minute of our lives. Stay excited, stay pumped. It's going to be amazing. And you'll be the first to hear it if you're on our newsletter. So all you have to be is signed up right now at thehighwire.com. Sign up to our newsletter.

We will let you know before we even announce it on the show because I'm sure many of you are going to want to race in and get those hotel rooms and everything booked before everybody else. So if you're on our newsletter, you will know the second that we know. It's been locked for sure and where it's going to All right, defeat the mandate's still coming, but postponed just for the moment. All right, I do have a huge show coming up. I've got a really special interview. We have all watched Jimmy Kimmel really speaking out and making fun of people that would even question the vaccines. Well, one of his biggest employees, longest lasting employees, has now been fired by Jimmy Kimmel, and he is speaking out.

He's going to be in studio on the stage talking to me about how this went down. what the climate is in Hollywood as we speak, what it's been like going through this COVID vaccine scenario, epidemic, whatever you want to call it. And he is one of the first actors or one of the first movie stars or one of the first, you know, rock and rollers to end up being on the show and speaking his truth. If you don't know who I'm talking about by now,

then you'll just have to wait. But first, it's time for The Jackson Report. Jeffrey Jackson, man, I'm telling you, the investigations you've been doing, the things that you're working on, we're just getting deeper and deeper. And just when I think it's all sort of maybe going to go away and we can act like this was a dream, it just feels like it gets stranger and stranger by the day. I have some interesting stuff for you today, Del.

Thanks for having me on. Well, there's a growing trend in media, and really throughout North America, we're seeing it. And quite honestly, it's refreshing. A lot of the stories are centered around something that's very near and dear to our hearts here at the high wire and they look like this. Take a look. Just days after getting their second COVID-19 vaccine,

two teenage boys died in their sleep. The study confirmed that Pfizer's vaccines led to the deaths of the teenagers. Whiteman was diagnosed with Guillain-Barre syndrome, a rare neurological disorder. It's been linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine. The CDC announced last year the vaccine may result in a rare side effect

that causes heart inflammation. The federal government says they're safe, but gives them warning labels of what could lead to death. Health Canada says there have been relatively higher rates of Guillain-Burray syndrome since the vaccine program started. The CDC says young men ages 16 to 39 are considered the highest risk group for pericarditis and myocarditis, which causes heart inflammation. Just days after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine, he started having excruciating back pain and then came. the tingles on his face. It's been a roller coaster for me, so it hit me hard right away. So I had the paralysis from the waist down and the full facial paralysis.

She got the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine back in May. She says not even 24 hours later. I was having shortness of breath, heart palpitations, like my heart was beating out of my chest. It just really felt like I was going to die. Cammy was told she had pericarditis, a known side effect. the COVID-19 vaccine. It seems a little more common than people are realizing because everyone I talk to you knows someone

that had some type of reaction. That is a shift for sure. We were just reporting another story last week. They are starting to report vaccine injury. And you know how reticent they are to do that. So it really makes you wonder what kind of flood is hitting these news agencies that they just can't stay away from it any longer.

Yeah. And you know, all of those stories, people I just started watching the highwire for the, for, you know, the foreseeable past, these were anti-vax misinformation stories. So these would not even have gotten on air. And these were left to citizen journalists or parents who have witnessed the injuries in their children to really try to report this and, you know, against some strong headwind. So this is huge. And, you know, even appears that the days of fawning over Dr. Fauci are over as well. So we have Jesse Waters at Fox, a host there, a very popular show. He is,

freely taking a crack at Fauci, not holding back whatsoever. Take a listen to this. We relied to. He said it was 15 days, and it ended up being like 15 months. Because remember, a lot of the Democrat governors stayed locked down, and then all the scarity cats continued to stay locked down. Here's what was Fauci's plan. Shut down the entire U.S. economy.

He's never been done before and told everybody to quarantine, including healthy people. And then he didn't do anything for early treatment at all. And then he says, stay inside with a mask on. And if you catch COVID, wait until you can't breathe very well. Then get yourself to a hospital and strap yourself to a ventilator. Oh, and then wait a couple years for a vaccine, which I get a cut from. That is insane. America has the most deaths of any country as a percentage and as a total.

And he could have come out early and said, take zinc, take vitamin D, get outside, eat healthy, exercise, do all of those things that are helping with early treatment. He didn't do any of that. Even today, doctors are still prescript. describing hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, still doing it. He didn't get on the phone. He didn't create a hotline to these doctors. They were on the front lines during the pandemic.

Hey, what's working? What's not working? He didn't do that. He just said, wait for my vaccine and stay six feet apart. What he did to the entire world was even worse. This plunged like 300 million people into poverty, starvation, malnourishment, what he did to our kids, what he did to the supply change, alcoholism,

drug addiction, child abuse. and think about all the small businesses he shut down. And it's like the biggest transfer of wealth in world history. He takes $4 trillion away from workers, and then about $4 trillion goes to billionaires. The billionaires and all these big tech, big media giants, they got super rich and they got more powerful. And then we just divided against each other.

Remember, he screwed up the election. You know, we all don't trust the science now because the science was all wrong. I mean, this guy really screwed up. Man, I think what you just did was uncover the biggest fan of the highway we've ever seen. Amazing, though. I mean, he laid it all out. I can probably take out my microphone and go home now. But that is incredible, really, to see that, right? On a television set here in the United States of America, the truth seems to be cracking through. What we're really talking about here is a sweeping change in the media landscape. So at the beginning here, we sell local news. Now we see Fox News. And perhaps the person that took the ball and ran with it the first. over these last couple of weeks is Bill Maher. He's the HBO host of Real Time with Bill Maher,

and he just went for it. Listen to this. Okay. Justin Trudeau. What? You laugh at it. But Justin Trudeau, I mean, I thought he was kind of a cool guy. And I started to read what he said, this is a couple of weeks ago. He was, or maybe this is September,

but he was talking about people who are not vaccinated. He said, they don't believe in science. They're often misogynistic. often racist. No, they're not. That was not smart of him at all. Right. He said, but they take up space. And with that, we have to make a choice in terms of a leader as a country. Do we tolerate these people?

It's like, tolerate you. Now you do sound like Hitler. And recently, he talked about them holding unacceptable views. Wow. I'm surprised to hear that Trudeau said those things. You didn't see the black face? I mean, he's... He's so, no, I'm kidding about it. I'm not, I mean, I was not a good look for him.

But I mean, come on. I mean, that's, I think what gets under people's skin. I mean, from Jesse Waters at Fox over to probably the world's most famous liberal, making a Nazi comparison of all things absolutely incredible. I mean, I don't think, you know, I feel like, you know, where we were once lonely, Jeffrey, It's getting kind of warm and crowded in here. Yeah, and you can see the guest, that was Marianne Williamson there. She didn't really talk too much.

I mean, these are some big words coming out of these hosts' mouth, and they're really pushing the issue. But let's jump over to Canada. This is, you know, third week ongoing. We have this truckers rally. Things are happening by the moment. So at the beginning of this week, Prime Minister Trudeau, he invoked the Emergency Powers Act. This is a very rare situation in Canada. It has not been done recently.

Here's the headline Canada's Trudeau invokes emergency powers to quell trucker COVID protests. These are broad federal powers really to restore order. And immediately, there was already pushback. So we have the Civil Liberties Association in Canada. There's a headline here warns normalizing emergency legislation, threatens democracy. They took to their Twitter account and said this, quote, the federal government has not met the threshold necessary to invoke the emergencies act. this law creates a high and clear standard for good reason.

The act allows government to bypass ordinary democratic processes. This standard has not been met. And they went on basically to say that governments regularly deal with difficult situations. Wow. And by using these powers so freely, it's going to really, it's really going to have an issue on civil liberties for people. And just recently, the Canada's Association, the Civil Liberties Association, announced that they're going to have a press.

conference at 4 p.n. Eastern today to announce a planned litigation of what they call significant public interest. So it looks like they may be planning some legal action here against the Trudeau's government. Trudeau literally right now, all he has to do is just say, I'm not going to mandate the vaccine for truckers that sit all alone in their trucks, driving across the country in the cold, a vaccine that does not stop Amacron. He himself just got sick in the middle of this and had to quarantine himself. So there's absolutely no purpose. to this vaccine, but instead of just letting go of this failed vaccine, he is going to bring in martial law, override democracy, act like there is a war at hand and take away people's

civil liberties and rights in order to get his way. I mean, absolutely atrocious. It's horrifying. And throughout the entire process, we've watched him divide the country with really divisive rhetoric. I mean, we're not going to go into it here, but it's been pretty interesting to watch, and it's turned a lot of people against him and really awoken the rest of the world. Now, even Biden administration, they appeared to have goaded him into this movement for these Emergency Powers Act.

And this is the headline. Right before Trudeau announced his Emergency Powers Act, Biden urges Trudeau to use federal powers to end bridge blockade. Remember, Trudeau essentially did nothing for weeks until this Emergency Powers Act was enabled. So even Biden getting in there, but it seems like... So our own, the beacon of light and hope for freedom and liberty

just said to Canada, go ahead and take away the people's rights, just bring in federal power. That's the best way to handle this. What's the Constitution? What are civil liberties? Forget it. Throw that out. Trudeau, just do what we would do. I mean, is that what we're to understand?

This is what the United States of America would do? I mean, that was a suggestion given from the Biden administration is to use these federal powers, and that was the one they chose. That's what Trudeau chose. So, you know, it appears that that was what was being pushed behind closed doors. and a lot of premiers, a lot of territories in Canada also immediately reacted to this. So here's the headline on that one. Caution must be taken against overreach.

Premier's reacted to Trudeau's call for Emergencies Act. And it says federal opposition parties say Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's decision to invoke the Emergenies Act is a proof of failure in dealing with convoy blockades across the country. Thurot's proposal was also quickly dismissed by their premiers of Quebec, Saskatchewan, Alberta, Manitoba. And understand that as these emergency powers were coming in, and they were to stop the blockades at the border crossings to America, at Coates and the Ambassador Bridge, both of those protests had been broken up by the police. The police did their job, which they were tasked to do, and the protests were peacefully, they were peaceful to begin with, but they were peacefully broken up.

There were some arrests, but you see here this video, this is Rebel News Canada. They've been great reporting. They brought in heavily armored police, but they did break up these protests. So there really wasn't a clear and present danger at this point besides peaceful protests in Ottawa and some other cities. The border crossings were open at that point. So there's a big question of why this was implemented and still is being taken to another step. And I want to bring that up here. Now we have Christina Freeland. She is the deputy prime minister in Canada. She's also the Minister of Finance. She came out and up the ante after Trudeau came out with his Emergencies Act, and this is what it sounded like in her press conference. As of today,

all crowdfunding platforms and the payment service providers they use must register with Fintrack, and they must report large and suspicious transactions to Fintrack. This will help mitigate the risk that these platforms receive illicit funds. Increase the quality and quantity of intelligence received by Fintrack and make more information available to support investigations by law enforcement into these illegal blockades. So they basically want to have the name and number and address of every single person that donates to anything

so that they can investigate and track you. I mean, this is what. we've been warning about folks. This is, you know, the destruction of your freedom, your destruction of freedom of speech, the right to assemble, all of these things. And now they are tearing apart technologies that allow us to, what are we doing here, right? I mean, for those that donated, donating to those truckers that don't have a job because they are being forced to take a product that causes myocarditis, can risk their lives, and yet has no ability to stop the virus at the current moment. Because of that, we, you know, people have been donating

and giving to these truckers to keep them fed and keep them warm. And now they basically want to go after and investigate anyone that helped them out. I mean, it's really, really scary times. And for those people out there that, you know, have got Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, you have to really ask yourself, is the writing on the wall, are they going to start trying to track every single transaction that they don't currently have control over right now? This is where we all really need to start stepping up to the table and having these conversations. Very, very important conversations. Yeah, and this marks a high watermark for a financially authoritarian directive by government

during this COVID crisis. We've seen heavy-handed physical movements by Australia and China, you know, literally beating their people, beating their citizens for protesting. But this is a financial movement that says a lot of people's heads, you know, scratching their heads. And it's important to note here, Freeland is a board of trustee member for the World Economic economic forum. And we covered that many times. No way. So that is a data point worth mentioning because a lot of their endpoints for the Great Reset involved, you know, complete control of financial transactions and digital currencies.

Now, there was a lot to her press conference, but she announced that she was expanding what was called the Proceeds of Crime, Money Laundering, and Terrorist Financing Act to include cryptocurrency, to include crowdfunding. So I looked into this. And it only, only has, this act only has two objectives. The first objective is to implement specific measures to detect and deter money laundering and financing of terrorist activities, and the second is to respond to the threat posed by organized crime. And it goes on more there. So basically, terrorist activities and organized crime are now, the umbrella has expanded to involve truckers and people protesting for public health measures. Again, this is absolutely unprecedented

what is happening right now. And we have more here. This is, I believe Bloomberg, talking about this Trudeau's anti-protest law, and it says sweeps across Canada's finance sector. So now this is the most recent headlines. It says here, the new rules make demands of a broad list of entities, including banks, investment firms, credit unions, loan companies, securities dealers, fundraising platforms, insurance companies, or fraternal benefit societies. They must determine whether they're in, quote, possession or control of property of a person

who's attending an illegal protest or providing supplies to demonstrators. And if you read this article further, it goes in and these banks are saying, we've received no instructions from the government. We don't know what to do. If we suspend these accounts, if we seize these assets, you know, there's legal considerations we have to worry about now. So the banks are kind of left swirling in the wind at this point. It seems like a really big deal that's happening there right now. Wow. Absolutely. Really scary stuff.

And Freeland also mentioned just recently in a press conference. This was today. We don't have the clip of it. But she said that accounts have been froze. crypto wallets have been turned over to the financial the fintech financial regulators by the royal canadian mounted police that's their federal police force so these accounts of she said individuals and entities so i'm guessing businesses as well are are have been frozen and then this brings us to another uh fundraising platform we've talked about give send go yeah they they they recently had a hack so they were hacked by you know unknown

hackers, gives and go back online after hack, doxing of Freedom Convoy donors. So a spreadsheet essentially was released with the donor's names, their addresses, and how much they donated. And what was happening at that point was allegedly the Washington Post was now starting to contact these people that were donating. This was a Twitter post allegedly having a letter here. It says Washington Post is contacting people asking them what motivated them to donate to the truckers, this one here was for a $40 contribution, allegedly. They were trying to get in these people's business. And even Minnesota rep Ilya and Omar scolds journalists for promoting harassment of Canadian freedom convoy donors calling it unconscionable. So this thing is racing

out of control really quick. Well, I mean, just because, I mean, talk about a witch hunt or, you know, inciting, you know, fear and loathing into people. I mean, this is what you're afraid of, right? This is a private company instead of the Washington Post saying this is an illegal destruction of a private company that allows people to donate money to people they care about. Instead, they are going to investigate and I guess out people that were a part of this. I mean, take this illegal information from basically a theft of a company and then put it out. I mean, what kind of world are we living in? I mean, it really is a dystopian at the very least.

Right, right. understand too. The media picture that's been painted as well as what has come out of Trudeau's mouth is all of the truckers are violent extremists, right wing, you know, use whatever buzzword you want. So when you start doxing these people's addresses and then the media is adding fuel to that fire, that is a bad situation about to happen. So it's being good that's called out by a lot of people. Yeah. Wow. Really shocking and shame on you, Washington Post and all of those that would sort of reveal the private information of human beings. I understand that Washington Post, I think, put out articles, putting people's names.

Those people are coming under attack. That means we now have a media arm here in the United States of America that is promoting violence, it's promoting acts of violence against individuals in America and Canada. Really shocking, really, really shocking stuff right now, and I hope they're held accountable. All right, yeah, Indel, I want to switch gears here in a big way. there's some headlines that are coming out that have us all falling off our chairs. We really don't know what to make of them. I did some digging into it. And so these are the headlines that are coming out just this week. Discovery of HIV variant shows virus can evolve to be more severe and contagious. So there was a recent cluster of about 17 samples according to this article that showed a lot of unusual mutations. 15 of those samples came from the Netherlands. And there was a study that was done. So this study co-author, it says in this article here, his name is Chris Wyman. He's from a lot of unusual mutations. He's from the University of Oxford. He and his co-authors wanted to know more. So they dived into another Dutch study with more data. They discovered a total of 109 people who had this particular variant

and never knew it. Dating all the way back to 1992, the variant probably emerged in the late 80s. Wyman says picking up steam around 2000 and then eventually slowing down around 2010. Goes on to say, people with this variant have a viral load that is three to four times higher than usual for those with HIV. This characteristic means the virus progresses into serious. illness twice as fast and also makes it more contagious. So stopping right there, when we're reading this, you start scratching your head because you go, wait a minute, these people have been carrying this, this highly contagious variant that goes into serious disease very quickly for 30 years and they didn't know it.

Right. It didn't seem that serious. And I've been hearing people talk about this. Like, did you hear about the virulent HIV that's sweeping the country right now? And so, you know, I'm glad you're looking into it. Right. When you see stuff like that, now we've got to look into it because that doesn't make any sense. And so there's another headline right here.

This is for heterosexual people. HIV now infects more heterosexual people than gay or bisexual men. We need a new strategy. Well, that's interesting. Why is it doing that? And then we have Prince Harry comes out just recently and he says this on an interview. Take a look. Every single one of us has a duty or at least an opportunity to get tested ourselves to make it easier for everybody else to get tested.

then it just becomes a regular thing like anything else. But if we're not getting tested and we're like, oh, you know, HIV, that's not, but how could that possibly affect me? That's affecting, you know, people over there. And it's like, no, it could affect you. I mean, what happened to, you know, sort of safe sex campaigns and things like that? Now we're going to go into testing. We just got out of what, COVID testing.

And now let's get into HIV testing. And maybe we can create a pandemic around this. Right. And, you know, they're talking about getting those HIV, test is commonly as COVID test. So again, you start looking at this and we got to wonder. So it brought us, it brought me back. It started thinking, we covered this before when it came to COVID. Where else have we heard about HIV during this COVID outbreak for the last two years? We dug into the archives. Take a look. The New York Post, mind-blowing headlines. Some COVID-19 vaccines could increase risk of HIV researchers warn.

Now, what they're talking about in this article, it centers around what's called the adenovirus, and it's a group of viruses that cause anything from flu-like symptoms, pink eye, common cold, bronchitis, pneumonia, things like that. Stuff were exposed to quite a bit, things people typically have symptoms for. And when they make these vaccines, they use a genetically modified version of this. It's called adenovirus type 585. And what this is this specifically the viral vector vaccines we're talking about like astisnecas where they're using it sort of like a capsule to, you know, deliver a gene and a message to the cells?

Yeah, absolutely. They've tried this before over a decade ago in international studies for HIV acquisition. So they were, they had vaccines to prevent against HIV. And what they were finding was that men who were being vaccinated actually had a higher prevalence of HIV. And again, they were trying to stop HIV acquisition. So they're finding that this vaccine, it makes men more susceptible, according to the data, for HIV. And let's look at the Lancet. So the Lancet came out with a correspondence. It was really a warning. And it said use of a Beno Virus type 5 vector vaccines, a cautionary tale. These are four veteran researchers. And they concluded, or I should say

warned on the basis of these findings we are concerned that use of an 85 vector for immunization against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus two could similarly increase the risk of HIV one acquisition among men who received the vaccine wow i mean i remember we covered it didn't remember exactly you know sort of how we looked at it but um you know that's right i mean there were warnings from top scientists using this technology could lead to an increased risk of HIV, which it's amazing putting that together right now when we look at the climate of how these headlines are coming out as we speak. Right. And just be clear, we're kind of just going into an open investigation here,

throwing out all the cards in the table saying, this is what we found. Let's talk about it. And so, you know, it's hard to believe that was almost two years ago. But let's talk over the last two years, how many times HIV has come up in association with COVID-19 and this virus. So it really started in January 2020. It didn't even have the name COVID-19 yet. It was still just this virus we found. It's starting to spread. It's in China.

Some Indian researchers came out and published a paper. They looked at the genome of the virus that was circulating. And they called this paper uncanny similarity of unique inserts in a 2019 NCOVV-V spike protein to HIV-1, GP-120, and GAG. And they say, importantly, amino acid residues in. all the four inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 GP-120 or HIV-1-Gag. And so that paper is important to do it. That was really the first sort of statement that suggested this may have been lab created. I mean, it came out super early.

I remember talking about that. Maybe this came from a lab because it had this HIV sort of inserted protein in there. Right. And it's important to note that paper was retracted. We really never heard from those authors again. on this topic. They just disappeared. At the same time, by the way, everybody that spoke of a lab origin was attacked. People, scientists were losing their license. We lost our YouTube channel. We lost our Facebook channel for discussing it. And now it's the number one reigning theory in the world by

almost all of science. Right. Exactly. Great. That's a great point. And so on to Australia. Australia tried to make an in-house kind of vaccine just in their own continent. And they had to suspend that. And this was the headline here. This is still 2020. We're talking here. Australia halts local COVID-19 vaccine development due to false HIV positives. So what they were doing is they were stabilizing the spike protein of the coronavirus with a small protein from HIV. It was acting like a clamp to stabilize and hold it together. And what that was doing was it was, it was when these people got tested, the PCR test, they were showing these positives. And we were being told of false positives for HIV because they were picking up that residue and that immune response from from those from those

points but now let's let's go from a little deeper from headline dot connecting into some actual some deeper science I should say so this is Forbes and this is kind of bringing it back picking back up where we left off in 2020 this is Forbes mainstream headline researchers warn some COVID-19 vaccines could increase risk of HIV infection and of course they're talking about Merck's HIV step trial and Fambili study. These are the two studies that were in the Lancet that we talked about. Those are the authors that set out this warning in the Lancet. And they said basically the use of these adenovirus five-vectored vaccines may cause HIV acquisition.

And that's what they found. So in 2007, they were doing these studies in Africa and other parts of the world. And they found that, you know, just like I was speaking about in 2020, back to the future here, that was increasing the HIV acquisition among the people that were getting these vaccines. So these researchers came out in 2020 as the COVID vaccines were being produced. And they noticed that these adenovirus vectors were being used to produce COVID vaccines. And they're saying, you don't want to do this. This is a caution because if you start using this in places like Africa or even the United States,

for that matter, that have high endemic HIV populations, it's going to exacerbate this issue, these infections. And so what we did here is. we consulted our international scientific team, and we started looking at studies here. And again, open investigation, but let's look at some of the studies that we found that are kind of cooperating this information. So one of the first studies here, this was from 2012, and this is looking at the title is Human Adinovirus-specific T-cells modulate HIV-specific T-cell responses to the AD5-vectored HIV-1 vaccine. Now we have a study from 2008,

activation of dandritic cell, T-cell axis by 85 immunoconplex creates an improved environment for replication of HIV in T-cells. A study from 2018, distinct susceptibility of HIV-vaccine-vector-d-induced CD-4 T-cells to HIV infection. So what this is, is like we've talked about that, AD5 vector is being used in this vaccine development, and if someone has already been exposed to this common cold, basically a common coronavirus. The endovirus is a common cold. They're using this vaccine. If you've already had that common cold, then you get this problem.

What is that problem exactly? What is the mechanism they're worried about? Yeah, and that, yes, and that is really talked about in this next study here. We'll dive into this study. This will really explain that. So the title of study here is adenovirus vector-specific T cells demonstrate a unique memory phenotype with high proliferation potential and co-expression. of these are the two things you need to remember. CCR5 and Integran Alpha 4 Beta 7. CCR5 and

Alpha 4 Beta 7 are receptors on these T cells. They act like docking stations. Okay. These T cells displaying high levels of these docking stations on their surfaces, the people that have those are more likely to become infected with HIV. So basically it's building more docking stations for HIV. to attach to, you know, and to be clear, the studies weren't looking at, because these were HIV vaccines that might have had HIV in the vaccine, they just separated out and did studies of just the adenovirus to see was that doing it without HIV, and this is what they're finding.

There's increasing the amount of docking stations you have or basically putting up antennas inside your body saying, come on over here if you're HIV, we've got a place for you to stay. Right, right. And these authors, let's read their conclusion. This is what they concluded. So this was, you know, again, this is all done in blood work in a petri dish, but they, they concluded AD5 specific T cells demonstrate a phenotype and proliferation potential that would support HIV infection. These results are pertinent to the findings of the step study, that's the Merck study from 2007, and future use of AD5 as a vaccine vector. They also say the T cells expand rapidly following antigen stimulation, resulting in a mean 320-fold expansion in these receptors, or

over seven days. Wow. And I pulled a graph, a graph picture of this, just to show kind of a visual representation. This is from their study. The first column there, first column aligns of the CCR-5 receptor, and then the second column is the alpha-4 beta-7. And at the bottom, it says day zero and day seven. So you notice at day zero, when they stimulate this antigen with the adenovirus five,

you see it all, every one of them moves up. Every one of them expresses a higher percentage of these receptors on their surface, except one of them, which goes down. But the majority of them go up. And again, it's a 320-fold expansion over seven days. That's what they found. And these are the target cells for HIV infection. So let's bring this home because I know a lot of viewers are saying,

well, what vaccines have this AD5 in there? I want to know right now. So right now we only have China's cancino biologics that they use the AD5. vector. Russia's Sputnik uses the AD 26 for the first dose and AD5 for the second dose. Johnson and Johnson uses the adenovirus 26 and AstraZeneca uses a chimpanzee cold viral vector. But here's where this starts to tie together. There's not a lot of research on cross-reactivity. So we found this study here, which may provide some link. It doesn't have to do specifically with HIV, but it does show that adenoviruses are cross-reactive with each other. So extensive

cross-reactivity of CD4 plus adenovirus-specific T-cells, implications for immunotherapy and gene therapy. Remember, a lot of people are saying these vaccines are gene therapy. But they're basically saying that if you use an adenovirus five, that can cross-react with an adenovirus. You know, there's over 50. The truth is, is the studies were all done. We're looking at older studies, looking at the the DNA virus 5 being used. We don't know of 26, but there's no studies there. And what they're saying, there could be a cross-reactivity. You could have that problem.

Then brings in Johnson-Johnson, Ashtazeneca being used all around the world. It's, you know, really amazing research, Jeffrey, on this. And I want to point out, too, to everyone in our audience, there's a couple of things right now. If you're brand new to this show, you're thinking, man, that's like a lot of science. I feel like I'm in biology class again.

And I'll tell you, I'm a CBS producer. It's where I started my executive producer. We both won Emmy Awards for the work that we've done in science, in medicine. And everyone told us you can never do a show that gets that deep in the weeds. Well, that's what we're doing. We're being accused of spreading misinformation. But ask yourself, when's the last time you actually saw a study, a headline, and gotten the details with graphs on CNN or MSNBC?

This is how we do it here. And hang in there. We'll make other things entertaining. But for all of you that really want to know the truth, This is an investigation that needs to happen. Do you see what we're talking about here? There were warnings that these vaccines could increase the risk of HIV. And now we're seeing headlines all of the country look out, all over the world, look out.

We may be having a rise in HIV. You may want to get out and get tested. Do you see the writing on the wall? I mean, do these connect? We don't know. This is what I want to say. But we are beginning the investigation. In fact, we began this investigation nearly two years ago.

I just wanted to make that point clear one more time because we know we're going to get attacked. by the fact checkers that just have this religious belief that all vaccines, even when they're not tested, are perfectly safe. Right. And, you know, we're also just connecting dots as well. And a lot of people can ask the same questions. This is the final dot to connect. The Moderna has come out and they have vaccinated their first patients in a clinical trial. So they, the first patients vaccinated in clinical trial, the HIV experimental vaccine that uses Moderna's mRNA technology. So remember, Marderna was a kind of a nothing burger company. It was floundering.

It was infused with a lot of government money. It comes out with a vaccine. Their higher-ups, their CEO, their CFO, their scientific officer, almost all of them, you know, multimillionaires, billionaires. Some of them left the company. And now they're going from COVID vaccines into HIV experimental vaccines, one of the hardest vaccines to really pull off. It seems, it seems interesting that this would be happening right now. And, you know, unfortunately, our. good friend who we were just talking about having on Luke Montagnier. Yeah, we were just talking to him

about coming on. Great Nobel Prize winning discover of HIV. We were in conversations to have him come forward. He had real concerns about this vaccine. He just passed away last week. Really, really tragic. Yeah, yeah. And of course, he led the team in 1983 who first identified HIV, Nobel Prize winner. And our thoughts and prayers go out to his family. But This is a lot of information. It's an ongoing investigation. We'll bring to you the truth as we find it every week. Sure, we've been a lot easier to do this investigation

if Luke Montania was still around. So we're sorry to have lost him at this critical juncture, but we'll find other scientists and doctors to help us with that research. Jeffrey Jackson, wow, an incredible report today. Thank you for sort of that deep dive. Really appreciate it. We'll see you next week. Thank you so much, though.

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that they immediately begin testing those in the clinical trials for HIV to monitor if this is happening. This was the letter we sent out, the Citizens Petition, October 16th, 2020. Remember, it was a petition like this that started the placebo group, the saline placebo group, which changed in phase three trials because of our petition. But in this case, this petition to test for HIV in the future trials going forward, it was denied. They came back and basically said to us that they, do we have the little sentence. FDA is considered petitioners requests relating to the clinical trial of the 86 COVID-2 vaccine to prevent COVID-19. For the reasons given this letter, FDA denies this request and therefore denies the CP in its entirety.

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They're calling me all the time asking for advice. How can they keep working in Hollywood? How can they hold on to their television show? How can they keep, you know, building the sets and doing the things they want to do when they're being told they have to be forced vaccinated? Now, a lot of them have been afraid to come forward. And I understand it. They don't want to destroy their careers. Just like so many of you have been put in the sort of firing line of, of ever.

an illegal decision, if you will, a government trying to force its will upon you, to inject your body like some kind of farm animal. Well, today I'm happy to celebrate a true hero that is stepping up to discuss the fact that he stood in defiance, refused to get that vaccine, and has now been fired. Well, you know him, maybe as a rock star, maybe as a movie star, or maybe an entity on one of the most famous talk shows. There is Jimmy Kimmel. This is Dickie. Ladies and gentlemen, the Mighty Mighty, Mighty, the Mighty, Mighty, Mighty, Mighty, Boston. Bosto!

Bostow! Bostom! It's Dickie Barrett of the Mighty, Mighty Bostones. You guys are like the king of the summer, the summer festival tour. Like you've done Lollapalooza, a Horde, Warp Tour. 95% of the things that come out of my mouth are complete nonsense, but when I tell you I like you or I like the place, that's heartfelt. No, I don't think so.

I think that teen idols are too much fluff involved. I think we actually have something to say. I think that we don't know the answers, but we ask all the right questions. Maybe if teenagers are listening, they might have the answers to that and be able to make the world a better place in the future. Ugh, as if. My name is Dickie Barrett. I'm in the Mighty, Mighty Boston. I also announce on the television show Jimmy Kimmelin.

From a lot of Boston. A lot of Boston fans here at the show. Dickie is one of them. This is Dickie Barrett here at South by Southwest. Jimmy Kimmel Live. I went from Norwood, Massachusetts. Norwood, oh, that's where Dickie's from. Norwood High.

Do people know Dickie Barrett, the Mighty, Mighty Bossones? Do they talk about them and remember them fondly? Yeah, big time. I just rarely see you do on-camera interviews. I just, I haven't seen you unless you're on your buddy Jimmy Kimmel's show. Well, I think this interview will make it obvious why I don't. My TV show last week, Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah, yeah.

And get a song for a magic of you. Jimmy was playing clarinet with you guys. This is something with us. It's crazy. I'm stunned and I'm happy and I'm very, very appreciative for what we have, but I feel like we always have been. Thank you very much. His name is Dickie Barrett. He is the frontman for the Mighty Mighty Boss Tones, the announcer for the Jimmy Kimmel Show,

and is my honor to be joined by Dickie right now. In person, what an honor. Please. The honor is mine. So before we get into just all this happening with the career, Hollywood's gone absolutely crazy. You find yourself in sort of the pressure cooker around COVID. But let's just very quickly, for those that don't know you, you know, was music something? I'm sure there's plenty of those.

There's plenty of those. Music, mighty, mighty boss tones. Where does music start for you? Little kid, always played music, piano. What's your thing? At a very early age, I fell in love with Arrowsmith and rock and roll from Boston and had to be a part of it. And then when I discovered punk rock, I realized I possibly could be a part of it. It seemed like some, I knew I could.

And why is it? Just because punk rock, you didn't have to be an opera singer or something? Yeah, it seemed like it was sort of anti-everything that was going on before it. You go Prague rock or bands like Rush, Sticks, Journey, and those big bands of the 70s into, you know, the Sex Pistols, the Clash, the Dam, the Generation X, seemed very doable, seemed very gritty and very, you know, you didn't have to have operatic voices or you just needed to know four chords.

And that seemed right up my alley. And I love the passion. I love the politics. I loved the energy. I loved everything that it was about. It hit me, I was the right age at the right time and just had to be a part of it. And so I got myself, 50 cents, got on a bus

and went into Boston from my hometown of North Massachusetts every chance I got. And from 17 on, it was all about rock and roll, punk rock, and I have a huge passion for ska music too. So you formed the mighty, mighty boss tones in late 80s? We were friends hanging out in these venues and sort of working for different bands, and there was plenty to do and plenty to see. This is long before video games or even the internet or cell phones.

You just went somewhere and you enjoyed something, and it was very interactive. And I'm lucky that I was there, And I'm lucky to be a part of it. And it helped shape me who I am. So, yeah. So we were there. We met each other and said, hey, I understand if we are in a band and we get up there, they'll give you free beer.

Oh. So we were. That's it. So we did. So you're out there. I remember for me, like Clueless is where I think you became like this visual, the built clueless. Yeah.

You know, how did that happen? Like, were you all? already? Was that your first break into being sort of nationally, in that case, internationally visible? It's a stream. It was an honor that Amy Heckerling knew anything about us and she did. And she needed to cast a band for this to play this party in this movie she was making about. And Amy is director of... Amy Heckling did Fast Times at Ridgemont High. So that connected with us. We love that.

Okay. All right. And she said, would you guys do this movie? And we said, sure. At the time, we were having a, it's a strange story that our manager of that time hadn't paid taxes for so many years. And so we needed to pay these taxes. And it came around at that time. And we said, okay, we'd do it. And as I have explained so many times before.

Bob's got to pay his taxes. Yeah, we'll take the film about Beverly Hills. We were like, we're a punk band. We got to pay taxes? So, yeah, so she asked us to do the movie. And this was a time when everything was about selling out. If you were in a band or a band like we were, it was like, don't sell out. You can't sign to a major lady.

You can't do this. If you do this, if you have a popular song, if you're on the radio, you sold out. And so I was so afraid of that. I was like, I don't, you know, I don't want, we have this fan base. We have these people that love us, and I don't want to sell out. I mean, clueless, I mean, a poster that's pretty much all in pink and furry and little, you know what I mean? I'm like, Irish Catholic kid from Boston. But did it happen? Did it end up acting as a sellout, or did you grow your audience?

I did it. Reluctantly, we filmed it, and then as it came into the theaters and people started to love it, and it was like, it didn't, was no real reflection on who we were as a band. So, yeah. So in hindsight, now it's an iconic film. and that, you know, sometime way down the line, I might even let my daughters watch. I guess it would have to be way down the line. All right, Jimmy Kimmel, which is where most of us know you now announced for the Jimmy Kimmel live show. How did you meet Jimmy Kimmel?

He was in radio. He was a radio journeyman. That's all he wanted to do as a kid was. I think ultimately he wanted to have a late night talk show, and that was his big. dream but I think he had a huge passion for radio too for broadcasting so he was in different markets around the country and being in a touring rock and roll band I would do morning shows and in different markets go into town and you know you're in Cleveland and you know how can I sell tickets tonight to get the word out

yeah and and so and I actually enjoyed doing that I didn't mind getting up and getting off the bus and heading over to whatever state and I met a lot of different people. I still have friends like Jimmy who I met because they were on the air in some market. So he was around the country, different places. And then he all of a sudden offered a late-night television show and then he offered me the job of being the announcer.

This is 2003 or 2004. Wow. And what did you think when you were being offered that job? I mean, you're a musician. I thought it would last about 10 minutes. I thought they would throw me off the show. And then it was a time when there was a revolving door of late night television hosts, different people trying

and with limited success, I think one of the Wayans brothers had a show, Magic Johnson had a show, Chevy Chase had a show, but they lasted about four minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Came and went. Not Jimmy though. No.

Yeah. No. And against all odds. And, you know, it's a testament to his fortitude. Like, he put his head down and said, I'm going to make this work. So obviously, you know, the reason we're here, the high wire, a lot of what we cover, you know, I've been my nonprofit has been investigating pharmaceutical companies, pesticide company, you know, all these different chemicals and things are involved in our lives. And Jimmy Kimmel comes up once in a while. It comes up for us because he's been fairly vocal against those people.

who questioned vaccines. He's been very vocal about it really quickly. Before COVID, before any of that, I think the video that really was the first time we addressed this on the high wire was, look what Jimmy Kimball just did. So let's take a look. This is a video that he put out on the Jimmy Kimmel live show. I've been hearing a lot of talk lately. And I don't know if this is more prevalent in L.A. than other places, but I feel like it probably is, but there's a small but still sizable group of people who are choosing not to vaccinate their children. Here in L.A., there are schools in which 20% of the students aren't vaccinated because parents here are more scared of gluten

than they are of smallpox. I don't know if you're one of these anti-vaccine people, you probably aren't going to take medical advice from a talk show host, and I don't expect you to. I wouldn't either. But I would expect you to take medical advice from almost every doctor in the world. I'm a doctor.

I'm a doctor. I'm a doctor. And I believe in vaccinations. And I believe in vaccinations. If you don't vaccinate your kids, it can endanger their lives. The potential downsides of vaccinations are almost non-existent. The cumulative scientific and medical communities are in absolute full agreement. That there is basically no reason not to vaccinate your kids.

No reason. Which is why I cannot f*** believe we have to make this PSA. I thought we settled this in the 50s. Hey, remember that time you got polio? No, you don't because your parents got you vaccinated. I did four years of undergrad, four years of medical school, and three years of pediatric residency.

I had to go to school for eight . I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. But you people still won't listen. Now I have to use my only day off to talk to you idiots about vaccines. I want to finish watching Breaking Bad. I'm only halfway through the second season, but instead I've got to come here.

Because you listen to some moron, moron who read a forwarded email. Perfect. All these people had to set up cameras, lights, sound equipment so that I could tell you to do something we've been doing for a century. Look at all these people. This is stupid. Get your kids vaccinated.

Get your kids vaccinated. Get your kids vaccinated. Get your kids vaccinated or lose my number. Get your kids vaccinated. Where these doctors may never find out, that Walt dies at the end of Breaking Bad. Are you fucking me, dude? Pay for by professionals who know what the hell they're talking about.

All right, well, you know, when you're watching that, I imagine you don't see the pieces to be made coming out on the show. You're sitting on the stage. I didn't see, I'm standing on stage. And I'll preface this by saying that me and Jimmy have very, very different views on this. And we had different views at that time. Okay. How I've come to my own stance and my own beliefs was before COVID.

And it's when my children... This is back in 2015, this video comes out. Yeah, so I'm standing on stage at that time, and I'm thinking, oh, I don't agree with any of this. And to be quite honest, for the most part, the politics of the show, we didn't, you know, I mean, I didn't have any love for George W. Bush. I wasn't a Trump guy. I'm not so. Ideologically, I was, and if I wasn't, I'd have been gone, but that came up and I stood there and I was crushed. And I go, this is, you know, the antithesis.

But also I hadn't shared with Jimmy that I don't, you know, because I thought it was private and personal how I'm raising my children. So this caught you by surprise a little bit. Caught me by surprise and I, you know, I didn't know how I was going to get through it and I'm standing there. And yeah, very, very, so at that point, I realized we're polar opposites on this and that it's even an issue that people even, you know, cared about what choices people were making with their own children. All right. So now that we realize you're watching this, you're shocked, why are you shocked? What's your background with vaccinations? How many kids do you have?

I have two children, two beautiful children that I had later in life. But having said that I can't imagine the world, my world, minus these children. I mean, you know, my family is absolutely everything to me. And so when they were born, you know, I think that I was like, okay, what do I do? What do I go? What are we going to feed them? You know, how are we going to raise them? What sort of, you know, and how are we going to medically, you know, take care of?

of them and so we started doing research we started looking into it and and we just you know being born in 1964 and having had you know according my mother and she can't even really remember she said you know you had two shots and then they laid out a schedule that said you your children by the time they were 18 years old will have 65 shots and i think it's 65 if you have anybody here that could check that number. 65, 72, somewhere in there, just depending on where you live. It can, you know, it's 54 injections usually. Where are you getting this? Multiple doses a little bit, but right, so this is this huge list when you look at it, right?

And I just couldn't, and I'm sort of trying to break it down, and I'm not very good at math, and I'm trying to go, that's this many shots. To me, it seemed like trauma, just at the very least, let alone what's in them and what just there were red flags like crazy. and, you know, we were both landing on the moon, which is what happens when you have children. Yeah. Into the Great Unknown.

And, you know, and so many things, like, you know, we were already, you know, food, you know, there was no longer food, you know. You can talk about Mont Santos and you can talk about, you know, so we're like, okay, we're definitely not going to feed them that. And when we say that, it's like we're definitely not going to feed them what my parents fed me. Right. Because it just isn't food. So once you go there, then it just starts to unravel.

Now, not a conversation you'd ever had with Jimmy about vaccines or how to raise your children or anything like that. No, I wanted to do. I mean, do you consider you guys, are you guys friends? I mean, would you say that you're friends? I think we've been really good friends for a long time. Yes. He's been great to me. Okay.

So that's the heart of what I want to get to in this conversation is because this thing has torn friendships apart, families apart. You know, I think the media has a huge part of it. But Hollywood is the media. You're living in me. You're in the media capital of the world. You are a show that is an iconic show that's not only represents Hollywood, but you have Hollywood moving through. They're the biggest guests, the biggest spokespeople for the Hollywood Lifestyle Academy Award winners, musicians, all moving through. So let's fast forward. COVID hits, what happens in the Jimmy Kimmel show, what's your experience of the energy around Hollywood? I didn't, I certainly didn't like the feeling, and who did.

But I sort of knew where it was going and felt like this is going to end up where I'm going to have to, you know, take some sort of a shot that I don't want to take and that I, you know, and I don't want to introduce to my family. So I knew it was heading that way. But very early on, it was, you know, when it was head home and, you know, We're all going to flatten the curve and we'll see you in two weeks. You know, that went on for two years. And to a point where I ended up, you know, and my, you know, with everything that entailed. And if you watch the show, then you know what was going on.

So it all kind of went from like Zoom in, like the live feeling of the show, everybody coming into the studio. He started doing it at his house. and I was announcing from my garage. And so now I'm sort of detached from the show altogether with a few exceptions. And so I'm wondering when am I going back to my job. But at some point I'm like, you know, the kids are out of school.

We're homeschooling. There's not a lot of children to play with here. And so I just finished. making this Mighty Mighty Bostone's album that I'm very proud of and then I hope to get the chance to shuck here on your show yeah absolutely and that album I mean I would I guess this idea usually you want to go out with an album you want a tour where you want to hit the radio you want to get out there and that's that wasn't going to go on that wasn't that happened so we had some relatives that lived here lived in Arizona near Sedona Arizona and we said let's move there

And then I imagined that the show would say, okay, well, we're going to need a guy in L.A. I called Jimmy and said, I'm going to move to Arizona. And then it was a long pause. And then he said, I like it. And he said, you know, we're not going to be back for a while anyway. And who knows. But we're doing it from your garage in Pasadena.

Why not? You know, might as well. So at some point, though, as things continued to escalate and, you know, ramp up, he found out that I made a decision that I was not going to get a COVID vaccine. How did you find out? Do you remember? I can't, I think, you know, I wasn't hiding it or I wasn't, you know, we've got mutual

friends and stuff, but he was mad at me. And he called me and he said, what is this ridiculous? stance you're taking and then and then it was I kind of just said look we haven't been on the same side of this for a long time and he listened to me and he and he heard what I had to say and that was the first time you ever told your family story yeah research where you had come out on it yeah and he and you know as far as he was concerned he had done his research and and you know who he stocked to and and it got to a point where where he was like you know there's nothing I can say that's going to, I can feel it from you. There's nothing I can say that's going to change your mind.

And then he got concerned for me, which seemed legitimate to me and said, you know, I don't, I don't want you to die. And then I said, well, I'm not afraid of that and I don't, I don't believe I will. I don't, you know, I'm rarely sick, despite what you see. I'm not rarely sick. And I had COVID. And that piqued his interest. And then he did some research and then he said, you should get an antibodies test. Because I heard that sometimes if you have COVID,

if you have the antibodies, it's just as good. And me, knowing what I knew, I went like this. Right. But I didn't tell him, I think it's better. better. And he, and I did. And then while I was doing that, as that was taking place, an ordinance came down from, from Disney, who owns the network, who owns the TV show, and said, all Disney employees must be vaccinated. So, so then I knew, you know, no matter what. But then I got that and I had the antibodies. I called Jimmy and he said, you know, that would work. You know, that would

for me I wish that that you know but he said but you know they're not having it they won't have that they won't accept that so at that point my days were numbered and you know the 20 years I put in there and and all the time I put in there and and I enjoyed it I loved being it I loved I loved working there it was it was fun but that was over like that so many people people across this country have faced this over the last, you know, year and a half, two years, you know, being forced by the job.

Some acquiesce, get the vaccination, others, you know, stand their ground and find themselves. I'm so proud of those people. For you, I mean, it didn't just affect Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, your band too, this really deeply profoundly affected. Your band. It, it, to greater and lesser degrees, it pulled us apart.

Some, some more than others in the band. And my activism and my beliefs and all of it made people uncomfortable. But it was also going down at a time where, you know, there's limited opportunities and, you know, venues weren't letting people play. And so, you know, the story there, and it was really domino effect. You know, once I was no longer the announcer on Jimmy Kimmel, people started going, well, where is he going? Oh, you know, put two and two together. And like I said, if anybody asked me, I would say, well, I didn't get the vaccine.

So, you know, Disney doesn't want me to be there. Right. And, you know, people started figuring that out. And that made members of my band uncomfortable. So after 30 years of your band being together, invested your time, your energy, you know, to do. just have this issue, have this vaccine be what sort of tears everything apart? It's a tremendous question. It broke my heart because I think we as a band we spent so much time what, you know, government said, what, you know, big anything said, you know, we were against

that. That was not. And I thought, a punk rock band, yes. We were, you know, we were fighting the power. raging against. We were questioning everything. We were, you know, it was like, and we came from a time where it was like are you going to believe the government, or are you going to believe Joe Strummer? And it was no question. And I thought I would be afforded that courtesy. I'd be like, well, you know, Big Pharma and our government

is saying this. But Dickie's saying this. It was like, and people were this. You know, so that was confusing and baffling. to me because I thought I earned the right to at least be listened to or heard, but it was, you know, it's just, you know, I know you explore this every week, but these are strange times. They are. We haven't really explored the personal side of this. I think that for a lot of people that are watching right now, we've all been through some form of this feeling like, you know, you're the odd man out, like really a minority, you know, have you had any sense of that,

Any feeling like, I mean, Hollywood especially. I mean, I talked to friends who were like, it was like, you know, you're in a restaurant, you have to whisper if you are going to question the vaccine. If you're heard by somebody, you know, I've produced her friends. Like, if you get heard talking about this and you're on the right side, you're going to get a call. It's going to spread out.

You get fired. I mean, is that what it was like, the climate in Hollywood as you were deciding to move out of there? In Hollywood, I, for the most part and for the longest time, and I don't ever feel like I was. although I was there, I don't feel like ever felt like I was a part of it. I always had my band to go to and we would, you know, we had the bubble of our, of our touring machine, our tour boss or, you know, would be going to different places. So, and no one was, you know, you're the announcer on Jimmy Kimmel Live. No one was going, you know, huge stars and celebrities weren't coming through like, I got to meet your announcer.

Right. You know, so there wasn't a lot of that going on. But the odd man out sort of thing, when that started to, you know, like just having, going to places and going, oh, I'm not backs, I won't have that card. I won't have this and that. Yeah, that was a strange feeling that I was anxious to get away from by moving out of Hollywood and out of California. So that was the truth. But within the band, yeah, I didn't like the feeling. Here's the thing about my band, though. and I don't expect you to know this, but early on in my life, I grew up in, like I said, in Boston. That's obvious. But at a time when there was a lot of racial turmoil in the city, and it had to do with bussing. And it was a huge thing. That made adults in my eyes act out of control and just crazy.

And then when you thought of it, like, of what was really going down, you said, what was the issue, busing different, from different communities? Yeah, they were forcing people from this neighborhood to buss into this neighborhood and trying to make things equal that way. Trying to get to different races to actually, to actually, you know, it's a very neighborhoody place and that's what I'm on. And then, of course, you know, well, I grew up here, but now I have to go across town to do this. And there was, however you feel on that, to me, it was everything, all the fallout from it that as kids, we were like, well, we just wanna be kids, you know. So at that time, I said, you know,

anything I do is gonna include everybody. And I'm not going to pick and choose anybody to be my ally based on anything. You know, sexual preference. You color your skin, your religious beliefs. It's I don't, you know, my people are going to be everybody. And that was sort of my mission was unity and bringing people together. And that's what we did as a band.

And that's what we did when we were tour. We would say it didn't matter what kind of music you played. If we liked it or you want to, you know, you can play with us. And come one, come all, it wasn't, you know, you like punk. You like heavy metal. You like disco, you like this. Everybody coming together. And that's sort of, and that's what I did.

So this sort of division that we're experiencing in this country is unprecedented. Yeah. We are being split apart in a way that I never imagined. So going back to this relationship with you and Jimmy Kimmel, I think that, so I showed you the video that before COVID was ever here, he has a recent video that came out sort of the middle. of COVID this piece with Barbie dolls. Just take a look at that really quick. There's a new doll in town, and the fun is contagious. It's Antivax Barbie.

She's strong. She's independent. She doesn't trust science. Bill Gates is the Antichrist. Vaccines have Satan's blood. Barbie comes with a computer so she can do her own research. Says here, Madurna turns your teeth Jewish. Take your Barbies everywhere.

I'm sorry, you can't come in here without a mask. I have a medical condition. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I'm recording this bitch, and you're going to jail. To the stables. Thank you for sharing your medicine dancer. And on the plane. Mmm, ooh-hoo.

And the only mandate this Barbie cares about is with her proud boyfriend, Ken. Hi, Ken. Want to go throw eggs at nurses? Sorry, babe, can't hear you. Alex Jones is talking about monoblobal. Mono-Global anti-borders. Antibax Barbie.

Exclusively available in Florida and Kentucky. Barbie Dream Ventilator sold separately. Available at Walgreens. I think what I find interesting about this particular video is just a month ago. So at that point, you've already, you know... Parted ways. Parted ways. But when we try to understand, Jimmy, you know him better than I do.

This seems incredibly insensitive. Yet the story you're telling me is he sounds like a fairly sensitive guy. trying to figure out how to understand you, saying, okay, if you're not going to do this, let me see if I can figure out a way through antibodies. So how do you explain this type of, I mean, he's taking this on more than almost any other talk show out there. He's decided to really champion this pro-vaccine stance, making fun of people that are making a different choice, a huge and growing population in the country. When you think about, when you watch this video, When you think about him and what you know, what's driving him?

I can't, I can't speak on, I can't explain that. It was as strange to me as anything. I don't, I don't know why and I don't, the discussions and the, and the conversations we had versus, you know, hey, Dickie, did you see this? Because by that point, I wasn't on the show. And that's what he believes, that's what he thinks. I think that he's, you know, 100% wholeheartedly into. that for whatever reasons he may have as I am on the opposite side so I don't I you know I don't

I can't figure out the psychology of that you know speaking about the opposite side one of his good friends I don't know Adam Carolla you you know who's been fairly outspoken on this issue too he is seems to be more in your camp he is you know saying this force vaccine means ridiculous he's big on rights but he and Jimmy are still tight as far as I as I know You're absolutely right. I think they're still best friends. They're very, very close. And I'm still close with Adam as well.

I talk to Adam quite a bit. And, yeah, again, you know, you figure that out. I don't know. I don't know. And maybe that's, maybe there's hope. If, you know, Adam and Jimmy can still be friends. Maybe, you know, the lunacy could end. and people could go get back to just being

how did it finally end the final moment with Jimmy you know there's sort of this lingering moment what's going to happen he pushed it as long as he could and you know I appreciated that because I wanted to you know see if there was some way to figure it out

and then they found someone else to do the job and, you know, I don't, and I was dismissed. Are you mad? Are you upset? Is there frustration? I'm not, I'm not mad because I don't think I could, I was doing the job remotely, and that's the way, but I don't think I could stand on the stage and watch anti-vax Barbie. Yeah.

You know, I don't, that was, you know, I had trouble, before COVID, there was one, every year, maybe something would come up, you know. involving vaccines and that was unpleasant for me but you know relentless you know pitching the the agenda and the and the uh you don't think I could so I'd rather just as far as you know just have the the memories and the good times and well so you know I'm not mad at that situation but I'm overall I'm mad yes the whole thing Yes. It's taken two, you know, really strong relationship with your band.

There's a relationship with Jimmy Kimmel. These things are all, I mean, your life has been as affected as most out there by COVID, I would say. I'm not, you know, whether or not you're, you know, but just, you know, the two things you're known for, this one pandemic has blown that apart. True, yes, and personally, sure, agreed, but on a scale of one, two, how it's affected people, there's some real sad stories that, you know, you know the numbers of suicide rates are way up. Yeah. There's, you know, people that were in AA for years are now drinking again, and the small business is lost. That list goes on and on. And so, you know, the announcer on Jimmy Kimball doesn't get to announce anymore. Sure, you know, there's...

But, you know, personally, yeah, I would say it sucks, though. But I have trouble complaining when so many people, you know, I think of a, you know, family of six somewhere in a neighborhood. And dad lost his job and, you know... When you look at the arts, when you look at music, when you look at music, when you look at... at film, when you look at television, do you have a concern over what this is done to what we, you mean, art is the ultimate expression of freedom and free speech, I think, and yet it's, you know, artists are, you know, coming out against Joe Rogan, you know, Mr. Keep on Rockin' in the Free World, Neil Young is trying to censor speech. Are you afraid we are

sort of seeing a death here of art? we know it. I think that yeah and I think that that's was part of the plan just to say you know there can't be a concert or there won't be music for this period of time or no more live gatherings and no you know so so yeah and I think that to to take that away and you know on many levels not even just live applications like you can't even get together in a studio and you know create music or so yeah it felt to me like it was part of the plan. And to see so many people and so many people that I grew up admiring Neil Young.

Yeah. You know, to say, I'm not going to be on this service if this guy is. And I never imagined any artists would say that, whether I liked their art or not. I thought, you know, the freedom to create was, you know. Are you worried about how this affects, you know, when you think about your children now, looking forward, how is that, how is all this affecting you as a father? That's, that's all I think about is my children. That's what their future is and what kind of world we're going to give to those children is, is, that's all I think about. And minus those children, I would probably sit back like this and go, all right. But it's, you know, because I'm not a kid. Yeah.

But they are. And so what kind of future they're going to have is extremely important to me. You've gotten directly involved in some of that. I think that's probably why. I mean, I know we were speaking. I met you in San Diego. It was a speaking event there. Robert Kennedy Jr. was there?

You had produced a song. Was I annoying? No, you weren't. No, it was cool. But, you know, I saw you use your art to try. try and get involved. Tell me just a little bit about the song. Did Robert Kennedy Jr. come to you?

Like, sort of how did this thing come about? One time at Jimmy Kim alive, Bobby Kennedy, years ago, Bobby Kennedy Jr. was there with his wife, Cheryl Hines. And people come through there all the time, but I was enamored and said, you know, asked Jimmy, would it be okay if I met him? Sure, sure, sure, I'll introduce you.

and he introduced me and I met him then, but. Let me ask you something right there. So would you say at that moment, Jimmy Kimmel was a fan of Bobby Kennedy Jr.? Lots of people were, because he was saving the planet. Yeah. You know, so he was hosting some events and stuff for Bobby Kennedy back then and was happy to like,

oh yeah, you're a Kennedy lover. And he knew that, you know, I love Bobby's father. Bobby's uncle and once again, Irish Catholic from Boston. It was, you know, there was pictures of JFK, the Pope, and Larry Bird. And everybody, all, everybody's house. That's what we had. So what did this whole COVID thing hit? So this vaccine thing, and you're finally discussing it with Jimmy.

Did it come up? Does he have a perspective of, I mean, Bobby's. He said one time to me. He said one time to him, I follow. you know, Bobby Kennedy. And then he said, oh, that guy. And then I said, you introduce me to him. And he goes, yeah, but he's done some good stuff.

And then, you know, we had a discussion that sort of led to him going, yeah, yeah, he's done some good stuff. And I go, well, you know, I don't really cherry pick. I, you know, I see it all as good. So for someone like Jimmy, he meets Bobby, Bobby's just flowing the coop in his mind. He doesn't stay with him. Like, I trusted you then. and you save rivers, I cared about them. This is what blows me away about Hollywood,

so many of our friends, right? I mean, I don't understand how environmentalists, you know. That's the guy I would go to, the guy that did, you know, the guy that's saving the country's rivers. If he starts saying, I got a problem with this other thing. I mean, I don't care if it's like the car, you know, if it's a product, my, I mean, my favorite car in the world, be like, wait a minute, Bobby Cain's got a problem with the car I'm driving,

like, let me listen to what he's got to say. Yeah. I make my own decision. But I hear that out because he's time tested and he's proven himself. So, you know, and that doesn't seem to happen. But for me, it did. Yeah. You know, and it aligned with my own sort of philosophy.

So we're having some conversations, me and Bobby Kennedy. And I like the guy a lot. I think he's a really good guy. And he asked me, he called me up and said, could you, I want to do a version of Graham Nash's song, Chicago. It's a classic protest song. Okay. And always he wrote it to protest the war.

And he actually wrote it to protest the convention in Chicago, you know, but all things that were going on at that time. My parents marched in Chicago. So that's what the song was for. And he goes, I want, you know, I'm going to change some of the lyrics. And could you create a version? of it. And so I got some of my friends to create this version of this song. And it was coming out good. And I just thought it was sort of a weird assignment. Yeah. But I liked it. And I was now out of

work. So I really poured my heart into it. And it came up good. And then I found a singer. His name's Grant Elman. And he was tremendous. And he was already on board with the, you know, the cause. He's like-minded, which was, I would have taken him if he wasn't. Right. And so just sing it. But he was and thrilled to do it. And he did an exceptional job. And then I sent it to Bobby.

And he loved it. And then a close friend of mine made a video for it. And off it went. So as you look forward now, you know, you're getting involved in music. Yes. Part of the movement, you know, what is your hope? What is it? What jazzes you now as you look into your future?

Two different things. My hope is that in about an hour I wake up and all of this was a dream. I'm back in Boston, attending bar. None of this happens. Start all over. Except for their children. I want them somehow still being in my life. And my hope is that we come to our senses.

and that, you know, we look at the things that are more important and we get back together. And we've been, and, you know, I think that you put it best when you said we're winning, you know, and to me directly, you said, dude, we're winning. Yeah. You saw today. You saw what was going on. This was in San Diego. And it's little by little, inch by inch, but I think we are.

I think that, you know, this COVID-shy-shy-old. hasn't been as advertised. Right. It's, you know, quite the opposite. And I think people are starting to go, no. And I think they're talking about it's going to be annually.

And I think no one's going to have that. Yeah. Especially with everything that's going on. So, you know, do I want that to speed up? Yes. Yeah. Do I want to get back to a time where, you know, the Bostones are playing music and we're talking

about love and unity? Yes. So you're all about unity. that album. How do we get a hold of the Mighty Bostones album? Mighty Boston's album. Wherever you get your music, that's where it's available. It's on Hellcat Records. What's the name of the... When God was great. And you know, you've spent a little time, we've been talking, why now? Why did you finally decide

you wanted to sort of tell your story? I think it's, I think in my world, and, you know, which is punk rock and ska and music, and I think it's important for people to hear it, you know, and as many tentacles as you can have, and if I could provide one for you, I would like to be that and say, hey, scy people, wake the fuck up. And so I wanna be that guy. Okay.

Sorry I said that. That's all right. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're stepping out. I'm glad you're a part of this movement. I'm glad you stood your ground. I think you're real here. There's so many people out there in Hollywood

that we're talking all the time. You're talking to them. They're all afraid to step out and have this conversation. Are you worried about the backlash now that you're telling this story? Media is going to decide to perhaps celebrate Jimmy Kimmel for making the courageous and bold move of firing you. What are those headlines going to mean to you if that's the way this goes? Well, I think it's important to know it's Disney. Okay.

I did that. But let's not quibble. Right, right. Am I afraid of it? No. Right. I'm not. I think it's too important an issue.

You said you're not fully in Hollywood, and I get that as a punk rocker. It's not necessarily you're seen completely. But do you feel like there's a lot of people that aren't speaking out that are living in California, living in Hollywood, are probably visible people that are afraid to discuss the fact that they don't vaccinate their children?

There's got to be. And you've got to think of, you know, You know, what I, you know, walked away from money-wise was a lot. Yeah. You know, so then, and I'm just the announcer on Jimmy Kimmel Live. So just imagine if you're a big star or what, you know, so yes. I think there's plenty of people in the shadows as I like to refer to them. And that's in, you know, punk rock and rock and roll too.

Well, I want to say, I think this conversation is important as much as we have the scientists, on the show. It started out. They're way more important. Well, I mean, yes, but I just want to say that those scientists started out was just sort of, there were some friends scientists, but slowly but surely

more and more started recognizing this was the only place they could come and tell the truth. You're one of the first sort of celebrity side of this that I think, unfortunately, unfortunately in some ways, drives so much of how people think.

If Kim Kardashian is sitting in this seat and saying, you know, hey, I don't believe this vaccine, millions of people move with that. So I hope that by your, you know, having this conversation with me, that we're starting that conversation and that other, you know. If only more, you know, you can't go A, probably not B. It's not, if only more E-list celebrities would come out with the E-Lis. Sit in these comfortable leather chairs. Maybe this thing would be over. I think we need the A's that have made so much money in the end.

Maybe they're ready to retire. In the world of ska punk, though, I'm probably an A. All right. Thank you. That's fair to say. That's right. That's right. Thank you. The A of Scott Punk.

Yes. Well, Dickie, awesome, having you in. It's good to have you standing shoulder, shoulder with people like you. I've had a great time talking. I look forward to, you know, I think there's a lot more that we can do. I want to see art, you know, back alive. That's where I come from too. So it's a huge part of it.

But speaking of that, that song that you produced and put together with Bobby Kennedy, the lyrics, Graham Nash song, Change the World. How about we sting out with that? Okay. This is Change the World. Sound up down here. Stand up. Government.

For the people. Buy the people. Boom. Detroit. I'm an act. We have a brand casting system we're working with today. So a couple of glitches. You might have seen a few things, slides moving in strange places.

but we're going to work it all out. It's all part of our expansion. Sometimes we've got some growing pains with the new equipment that you're making possible. So sorry about that for those that you saw that. But moving forward, we're going to keep getting it better and better. Look, I just want to sort of before we close up this show, recognize that this is an international news show.

We are not just focused on the United States of America or even just the continent. We live in North America, talking about Canada all the time. We have brothers and sisters all around the world, Germany, Spain, know, Austria, and really one of the places we've reported on a lot, Australia, just had a gigantic march in Canberra, which is, I understand it's their capital, just massive protest. I mean, people, as far as you can see, I'm being told hundreds of thousands, it's believable when you look at the videos coming out of there.

And really, when I look at that, and I think about this conversation that I've been having, ever since I put out the documentary, Vax, one of the groups really discussing, you know, VACTS, freedom and medical choice, AVN, the Australian vaccination risks network. They even went as far as buying a bus, a Vax bus to go out and record their interviews, as we had done, as we toured with VACS. There's a VACS bus that is out there is at these rallies, and it's amazing to see how this has grown in Australia, just as it's grown here in the United States of America. But they have the fight of their lives there.

Australia is maybe one of the most oppressed nations in the United States. nations in the world. And to sort of discuss that in some of the lawsuits that are going on, I have Merrill Dory from Avian and Julian Gillespie joining me right now. Merrill, just first of all, amazing work. You've been at this a long time. We have been discussing for years, long before COVID. We were having these conversations, but boy, the climate is really changing here in America. What is it like to see those numbers coming out in Australia? Oh, it's so hard to describe, Del. It was just amazing. My heart swelled by the number of people. There are estimates between 800,000 and 1.5 million people in Canberra. And it was so incredible.

And, you know, it wasn't just people who didn't want to take the jab. A lot of them had been double jab. And they just felt that people should have a choice. They were there for freedom. They were not anti-vaxxers, they were simply saying everybody should have the choice over what goes into their body. And the day was a love fest. It was just incredible. So many people hugging each other, meeting each other. And when they saw the vaxed bus, the cheers that went up were just incredible, absolutely incredible. Fantastic. Julian Gillespie, I know that you're a lawyer. You have a background having worked in the judicial system in Australia. My understanding is you're not the lawyer for AVN, but you're here to sort of discuss the legal challenges

and what's actually happening on the legal side of these incredible draconian vaccine mandates, COVID vaccines. We're well aware of the issues with these vaccines. What's happening in Australia in the lawsuits that AVN is involved in? Yes, thank you, Del. The AVN is the applicant in the federal court, which is our second highest court in the nation.

The TGA, which is the equivalent of your FDN, the Secretary of Health, who runs the TGA, has an obligation, as all of these regulators do, to cancel any vaccine which proves to no longer be efficacious or for safety issues. So we're bringing what's called a judicial review application where the court is going to look at the legislation empowering the secretary and essentially tell the secretary, mate, you haven't done. your job because there's a very long history of the Secretary cancelling drugs for just minor health issue of complaints. But we're in a situation now where Australia, with respect to old-style vaccines, would average about 2.4 deaths per year. We're now with the COVID vaccines within

the last 12 months, we're witnessing 765 deaths, which is on a proportional basis equivalent to the, I think it's over 10,000 deaths that we're starting to see in the VERS American system. Yeah. So it is to bring the secretary back into line and tell him do his job. And also to look at the decision with respect to 5 to 11-year-olds and say that that decision was invalid at law and can't stand. So to pull that decision as well. Wow. And so what is the response?

I mean, do you feel like you have a good chance in the court system in Australia? I mean, I mean, how good does your system work? There can be quite a lot of criticisms leveled at our state courts, but this is the federal court. So this is for the entire nation. So the judges of the federal court would be in our highest court if there was more room. These guys generally play with probably one of the straightest bats that you can find in the judiciary.

They take their responsibilities very, very seriously. the case itself, we can't bring a case in Australia unless it's already seen prima facie to have good merits of prospects of success. So that's been recognised by the court. That's why we're running it. And we've had a lot of very learned minds pour over our arguments and our submissions

and they've all come back saying it's got to run, it's got very good prospects. And so we have to keep going for not only the entire community to have the vaccines canceled, but particularly with respect to the very erroneous decision by the Secretary to roll these things out to five to 11-year-olds who have no need for them. Yeah. I mean, that's absolutely right. I mean, you know, Merrill, you know this. I mean, we already have, you know, a conversation you've been involved with for years talking about vaccine injury. But when it comes to this COVID vaccine and children, I say for the first time

in history, we actually have proof, definitive proof, that the vaccine is more dangerous to children than the virus itself is. I pointed to the science done in Israel, where there's a three to six times increased risk of ending up in the hospital with myocarditis from the vaccine than ending up in the hospital from COVID itself. This is, you know, there's no sort of splitting of hairs here. It is so clear. When you're, you know, seeing yourself, you've been fighting this for a long time. How much are these facts now? COVID, this vaccine, we watched it, emergency use, didn't get proper safety studies, and now we're seeing it fail in efficacy and in its ability to stop infection, and we're getting reports that the increased risk to children is so much higher.

Do you feel like, you know, the footing you're on now fighting this in court is just stronger than a place that you've been before with all the work that AVN's been doing? I think this is the most important thing that the AVN has ever done. Right now, we are seeing children being injured. children reporting chest pain. I mean, you don't have children with chest pain. And we're seeing children having chest pain as one of the more common reactions following the jab. We have had deaths in the 5 to 11 year old age group. And we have said, not we, but the government and the medical authorities have said from the very beginning that children are not at risk from COVID. They

simply, unless they have severe underlying conditions, they're not going to die from it. But they can die and they can be permanently injured by these COVID jabs, by the Pfizer jab, which, as you said, has not been tested for safety. We know that it is not going to stop infection. We know that it is not going to stop transmission. And we know that it can cause immune system dysfunction and also kill whoever has received the vaccine. So we are taking all risk with children for no benefit whatsoever and that needs to stop. So we need to save the children and we need to save the rest of Australia as well. I have to tell you, Dale, for the first time in almost 30 years since I've been doing this, we are no longer the minority. The people who are questioning these jabs have become the

majority and I think that's really important. That's absolutely huge. Now I know it's very expensive. if we're involved in legal cases here. So for people in Australia watching right now, or for those that recognize as Australia is sort of leading this, the draconian measures, locking down their citizens in ways we really haven't seen in few other places except maybe Austria and New Zealand. But for those that want to donate, how do we donate to you right now? There is a give-send go page.

And it's been up and down because of the Canadian truckers. and we support gives and go. They've been brilliant. So anybody who can donate, you can donate in U.S. dollars, you can donate in any currency, we're about 75% of the way to our goal. So anything, $5, $10 would be very much appreciated. As you said, it is not cheap at all to take one of these cases on. But one thing is that our victory in court will be the world's victory,

because we will set a precedent. can be used in many other countries. So we're not just asking for Australia. We're asking for everyone because this is really important for the world that we actually win this case. Well, I want to thank you for your efforts there, and you are right. You are leading the world. You've been at this for so long, Merrill. Julian, any final thoughts as we sort of look to the future and using judicial systems

to try and stand for medical freedom all around the world? The courts have to, it's their primary responsibility is to protect and assist the community. We're seeing it with your US courts. Fortunately, you guys have the Bill of Rights over there, which gets you a few steps further towards justice. Australia does not have that. However, we have, I think, clear a legislation with respect to throwing the responsibility back at the feet of these regulators to say, do your job and pull these things when they've got to. be pulled immediately, not wait a year or two years later. I think we're on the verge of that

occurring and hopefully in Australia, and that will wake up judiciaries around the globe to say we've got to get back on the side of the community. Thank you very much, Del, for your time today. We really appreciate it. Thank you for your time. Thank you, Merrill, Julian, for your work and keep us up to date as this court case moves forward. There's their website, www. www.avn org.aua u just in full support here love what you're doing and thank you for taking the time to share with us today take care thank you thank you i want to make the point because i know you're all sitting there going you know rolling your eyes as we have to pull up uh give send go and think well i mean they just got hacked or in the government in canada shut it down a judicial system uh shut down

give send go and the money going to the truckers but you know let's be clear givsend go did not is not the one that made a mistake here. They didn't, you know, lock up or freeze these funds. These are attacks by the government of Canada by hackers, maybe even, you know, in connection with governments. Maybe we'll see if anyone cares to investigate. But we cannot back away from these companies that are trying to give us these tools in order to communicate with each other, in order to share with each other, in order to take care of each other. We've got to stand in the face of that. I know. I mean, you're like, well, I mean, the personal information was gotten to. This is what this is, folks.

These are the moments we live in. Are we going to run? Are we going to hide? And then what are you hiding from? What are you waiting for? Do you really think they won't find you if you hide? Isn't it better to stand in number, to stand in mass and show them we do not care. We will not back down.

We're not afraid of you. We are going to donate wherever we have to. Let's really help put that over the top right now. Let's get that lawsuit fully funded in Australia. Let's also continue to support Gives and Go. I'm sure they're going to four to five. We can continue our commitment to using companies like that. Just like here, we have to, you know, we're constantly upgrading, trying to do the work.

This is the world we live in, right? We're going to have to support those that are coming under attack. So please don't let this, you know, be something against Gives and go. Let's support them now and go and support this case in Australia. We don't kill a few birds with one stone there by standing here and saying, you know what, we will not be scared away. It's been an amazing show. I want to thank Dickie for sharing that beautiful story of his

and I think that represents so many people in this world. You know, when I look at all of the things we're reporting on, so many, I mean, every day it just feels crazy. People crashing, heads slamming into stages and people dying in their hotel rooms and nobody seems to care. And is it a comedy? And is it a cartoon? I mean, so many of us are like, what is going on in the world?

I just want to say, you know, we've got to stay calm. We've got to keep our sense of humor. We're human beings. I truly believe we're winning this. I truly believe that, you know, there is a golden, you know, sunrise on the horizon after this dark storm. But when we think about how crazy the world is you think about cartoons. You know, one of the things that keeps coming up is how, you know, these different comedians and different. cartoons. It seemed like they have, like, predicted the future. I mean, I've seen these

South Park videos that show, like, oh, my God, they were already talking about this five years ago in The Simpsons. And, you know, when we think of Matt Stone and Trey Parker, of course, they've made a lot of predictions with their cartoons. I just want to say they made one prediction that I think we should all pray does not come true. So pray that this prediction was not correct. And we'll see you. next week. AIDS, AIDS, AIDS. AIDS, AIDS.

And so this is the end of our story. And everyone is dead from AIDS. It took from me my best friend. My only true pal, knit bright star. He died of AIDS. Well, I'm going to march on Washington. Leave the fight and charge the brigades.

There's a hero inside of all of us. them see everyone has AIDS. My father, AIDS. My sister, AIDS, my uncle and my cousin and her best friend. Age, AIDS, AIDS, AIDS, the gays and the straits and the whites and the spades.