The Highwire with Del Bigtree - THE RIGHT STUFF

Episode Date: November 26, 2023

Power couple, Jenny McCarthy Wahlberg and Donnie Wahlberg, join Del in studio to share how they keep the magic alive in their high profile relationship on top of their prolific careers, family and tireless fight for autism awareness.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

Really, there's no one that I think that came before me in this conversation that stood out when no one else did. I'm talking about Jenny McCarthy Wahlberg, who was just a pioneer in waking up the world to the fact that, you know what? It turns out there is this pharmaceutical product that isn't necessarily perfectly safe and perfectly effective. She was all alone, but luckily for her, she found love. and someone that has supported her in all of her work. We have watched this meilloric turnaround in her career and their lives are something we've watched. It's a beautiful thing, and it looks something like this.

Hi, people. I'm Jenny. And I'm Donnie, and we're the Walgars. Welcome to our home. Oh! Here to the bottom. Shepton! Shepton!

Shepton! Yeah! I'm just! I can't believe we've been married. for seven years, which is a good thing, because it feels like it's only been about a year. Like, everything's really exciting. We still FaceTime sleep together every night. We're not together.

I can't wait for him to come home. My friends are being up crazy. We're just lucky in love, I will say. I love you so much that I want to line your body with felt and cuddle with you for the rest of my life. I want to take you and grind you up on a cheese grater and sprinkle you over my pasta. Don't let anyone hear you. It was whisper dirty to me.

His tone is. It reminded me of A-Con, so I think this could be A-Con. I've been sneaking in and out. Oh my God! Donnie also stars on Blue Bloods, so when exactly are you gonna find a comment? And Walburgers and Rock This Boat. How amazing that you went from being in this huge band to being like a serious actor who everybody really admires and respects. You can take care of him, all right? That's my brother. You hear me?

I know. Take care of him. Wait, right, right. She's a wonderful woman. She's very smart. She's very intelligent. She's a great mom. All the single moms out there think, God, I don't know if anyone's going to want to take me on with my child because, you know, you come as a package deal. That's right. And thinking about Donnie, how he's opened his heart to Evan, and Evan looks at him and refers to him as dad. He knows he has another dad, but really he feels that much love towards Donnie and the bond that they have. So great. Oh, my God. Did you draw this? Yes. Dear Donnie, happy birthday.

I've been having so much fun with you, and you are the greatest stepfather ever, Evan Asher. Watching Evan give Donnie a homemade birthday card made my heart explode. I really am an incredibly lucky man to be Evan's stepdad and to be your husband and to now be friends and standing side by side with so many people who are here in support and looking for

hope and help for their children. Welcome to the Autism Education Summit. It's now my pleasure to introduce Jenny McCarthy. Come sit by you guys. All right, it doesn't matter wherever you want to go. But if you get too close, my husband will kick your . We are so incredibly proud and honored to be executive producers on the amazing documentary film Spellers.

Whether you are impacted by autism in your life personally or not, this film, you will change your life. Donnie is so graciously going to perform his first solo concert for my charity Generation Rescue. Any time I can be associated with something that is about hope, that's something that's going to really be a draw to me. Every single day, I go, thank you God for him coming into my life. We're a couple first, we're parents, we're a daughter and a son and friends.

I mean, we're part of a community. You know, we're celebrities, you know, eighth or ninth on the list. magical powers. I love you. And we work. This is it's work. We love each other. It's fun, but we put in the time. That's my loving. Well, it's my absolute honor and pleasure to have Jenny McCarthy Walberg and Donnie Wahlberg in that house. You guys rock. Love you, Drew. So good. It's, so good. Yeah, it's today it's it's it's, it's, it's, it's Donnie Walberg McCarthy. All right. We can switch it up because that's what we do is that's the modern age. I'm just an of her so I just yeah yeah I'm changing my last name today it's uh you know I I we talk about

obviously this is a health-based show but one of the most important things in health is love absolutely right and happiness and joy and and Jenny you know you know you can do you guys do it I mean like you're so busy I mean I and people don't know this like I'll call you and say you know I'm learning would be in town or can we get this thing or or the fact like ask you, could you come out and be in studio together? I mean, that's almost impossible. I mean, you've got your whole world going, your show, Blue Blood.

You've got some incredible hit with Masked Singer and then all the other things that you're doing, the nonprofits you're involved with. We're all racing. We're in such a busy time. What's your secret, you know, to the moments you have together? Where do we start? But I would say it starts with a good foundation.

We also had similar upbringings, so we appreciate and understand our work ethics. You know, a lot of people can get bummed out, but we understand how important it is to have your own path, but to also hold hands with your partner on that path. Checking in with each other, doing the work. We did some work on the way here.

Work meaning relationship. What is that I mean? Communicating. Yeah. You know. Checking in. Yeah. Checking in.

And sometimes, you know, we go, we renew our vows every year. Wow. Some people make fun of that. We think it's great. It's like getting married all over again and we have that love and we reconnect on that deep way. But sometimes, you know, this has been a unique year. You know, I was away on Blue Bloods. Last season, we were still testing for COVID five days a week up until April.

Wow. Yeah, it was. He was like the last show, getting it up the note. I was like, I can't smell anymore. But, you know, Jenny was home, and it was like, all right, let me just be responsible, be here at the show and not run around and do all the other stuff I do. And, you know, so I kind of was there and she was home. And then I came home and had a long break. And she had to go do mass singer a couple times.

So we were just apart a little bit more. But the checking in on the plane, the work on the plane is just, you know, if ever we feel like we're just becoming that couple that's just existing and not connecting. and not connecting and not communicating and not being on the same vibration, then we check in. We reconnect to that higher love that we have because we don't want to become just a couple. And when, you know, Jenny says,

I have to go down to Austin. I got to go do this thing with down. I have to do some important time right now. Then you go. It's like, you know, in that clip that played at the beginning, it said we're celebrities ninth or tenth on the list. That's true. That's our work.

And, you know, I'm in a band that is blessed with the greatest fans in the world. I mean, truly, they are my extended family, and I love them dearly. But that said, you know, that's about love, too. That's not about celebrity, right? So when I know she loves something as passionate about it, I have her back on it, and she's the same with me, and that's just how we are. I always think that when you see celebrity couples that, you know, we all get invested, we see the table, and they break up, or it falls apart.

And I just think it's hard when the person you're with really actually loves what they do. Like you said, you're both have a major work ethic. You're everywhere. But it is a love, a passion. A lot of people go to work. They kind of can't stand it. They get home and she's like, oh, baby. But it's different when you have something in your life that you truly, you know, it's like your other spouse.

Like it's the thing I really actually love what I'm doing every day. That's right. That's right. I mean, if you don't have that, then you find a hobby together that you both really love. Could be pickleball. Yeah. But we learn from each other too, you know. If I, and we've just been successful at it.

And it is work. It takes time to question, you know, I'm a person who likes information. You know, it's why I love you. It's you give information. I love the high wire. I get information. I want all the information I can get to make decisions. You know, we give each other information and we seek it from each other.

You know, if Jenny's going to work, we talk about it. And when we're not asking enough questions, she'll say, you know, I want to I want to talk to you about what's going on with me, you know, at work and I'm okay, great, let's talk about it. But, you know, it's really important. Go ahead, I'm sorry. There's a great question if people want to know that you can ask your partners. Yeah. What can I do better?

Yeah. What could I be doing that? You actually ask that of each other. Yeah. You say, what can I do? Or what can I say or do to connect with you right now? You know, when we're disconnected as people in any situation. In work, right here, home, you know, it's very hard to let your guard down.

and reach, we call it reaching through the thorns or the barbed wire, right? To put your, be vulnerable and ask a question. And, you know, just saying something as simple as, you know, knowing you're disconnected, what can I say or do to connect with you right now? It's a very sort of takes the sting off of everything. It is really putting yourself forward to say, I want to be connected. You know, I want to feel that thing we feel and it's not here. What can I do to help?

And that's an invitation for your partner to come in and help as well. I love that, you know, simple, right? It's pretty simple. A lot of people want to know like how this beautiful thing started. I think we have a, I believe we've got video of like the first time you guys were actually. There's that. Take a look at that. Possibly. Take a look at this.

Jenny McCarthy. The dare is drawing a mustache on herself with this Sharpie. Will she do it, Donnie Walburne. Wow, you might have found one thing in the world she wouldn't do. I think, I think she would do like a cool. pencil than mustache so I would have to say yes she would do it jennie mccarthy yes i would oh my god my question is for donnie donnie can you just go back to the mustache go go back there you go look at that that is so hot that is awesome man i i wasn't even flirting with him i know i told myself do not flirt with her

because we didn't know each other you didn't know each other at all we did not how did you get chosen to both sort of be on that... Just happen to be that way. Show at the same time. Yeah, I knew who she was, of course. I knew some things about her. But I didn't know a lot. I didn't, right? Yeah, we can talk about that too. But I made a point, do not

flirt with her. She probably gets hit on every time she does an interview, every time it's another guy's, don't do it. And she told me she said the same thing, and we look back and we're like, oh my God, we're flirting the whole time. We were trying not to. We were trying not to. But then, you know, a few months later, he came on my talk show, and I was like, ooh, he's smart.

and funny and interesting and hot and all these things. And long story short, I gave my number. It took two weeks to call me, but it's okay. Too long weeks. But then we both started feeling it early on. And I think it was like a few dates that I kind of came to him with one of those warnings you see before a film. The old VHS days, like an FBI warning.

I'm like, I've got to just warn you a little bit about being with me. If you don't know my past, it could be you can walk around with a bullseye on your back. And I don't know, you wanna pick up the rest. No, I mean, well, first of all, to those who don't know, I know everyone does, but her past in terms of, you know, autism and Evan's journey and her, you know,

standing up, you know, to the machine. You know, for me, I didn't know a lot about that with her. I didn't know. We went into it, you know, we actually made another choice. Like, I made a choice, I'm not Googling about you. I'm gonna get to know you for you. And- It's gotta be so, I mean, honestly, like people, you can hear that,

but you're both, huge celebrities. See, you're aware that there is a ton of baloney about me. So why would I, like, we go and look up each other, but in that, in your space. We just didn't look it up. Yeah, why do it? We took each other as we came.

And so first of all, for her to sit down and say to me, you know, I want you to watch these videos. This is, you know, I saw the doctor's clip, you know, where you guys met and all this stuff. And I was humbled that she wanted to do. to share with me and I was like, okay. And she was like, you good with this? Cause, you know, it may put a target on you.

And I was like, I love you. Like I'm with you all the way. And in going back to the previous question, that her showing that to me and inviting me or warning me. I didn't really need a warning. I mean, I love her and adore her. And it's only made me respect her more. But that opened the door for conversation

and for us to learn, right? It's all about information. in relationships and life, in what you do. It's one of the great things you said when I was in the control of watching, you said, we're just trying to educate and provide information, right? Freedom of Information Act, freedom of information, right? I'm deviating from the relationship into other things,

but you know, if we only have one source of information, we don't really have information. And if we don't have information, we're not really free, right? And for me, I love information. And Jenny's too, like we, We love it. Buying a car, I wanna know everything, buying a house, I wanna know everything.

Yeah. Buying shoes, I wanna know everything. And certainly with our health and safety, we wanna know everything. And it's important to get as much information as we can, you know, and informed consent. It's, you know, when that starts to go away, you know, it's easy in the moment to say, okay,

you know, all right, well, just this one time. It's, you know, it's a very slippery slope because people wouldn't get a knee surgery without a second opinion. Right. For me, I just want information so I can say, okay, I'm comfortable with that or I'm not comfortable with that.

It's very simple to me. So so much of what I watch with you and what I learn with you and things that Jenny share with me, it's like, yeah, that seems common sense. To me, I understand people have other thoughts and other opinions. Everyone's different. The fact that we're all different

is all the more important that we need to respect our differences and get as much information as we can. We're information junkies. I mean, you picked a good one here. I wasn't sure if I would do it, but because you brought it up, one of the first videos you showed is somewhere where we, you know, I'm working on the doctor's television show.

I wasn't on this show, but we almost connected there, but it is a very powerful moment in this conversation. So for those of you that are new that are watching this show, and maybe you've heard about Jenny and things that were going on, this is a pivotal moment on the show I was working on, the doctor's television show around this concept of vaccines and autism. Take a look at this.

I wanna focus on your personal story and journey with Evan, who was diagnosed with autism, and how's he doing now? He is doing incredible. You know, two and a half, he had a seizure. That's what led me to the diagnosis of autism. And after one year of implementing biomedical treatment, which is diet, detox supplements, he was recovered from autism.

Today, he is typical, first grade, loving, so social, you wouldn't be able to tell at all that anything was wrong or the severity of his injury that he had. So Ginny with Evan, you don't use words necessarily like cure or what do you? Well, you know, a really good analogy that's Dan Kurtz, who's here today, a dad taught me,

was that we look at autism as an injury. So if you get hit by a bus, you don't become cured from getting hit by the bus. You recover from the injury. And these kids, a lot of them, weren't born with autism. Maybe a genetic predisposition, but something triggered it

that pushed them over like toxins, like infections. And we firmly believe that this is why these kids were injured and why we call it a recovery. Here's one thing, Jenny, and you know I've got an open mind. But we've seen a huge decline in some of the really nasty things that I don't, that I'm so glad I don't have to deal with. Let me tell you this.

We do not need that that many vaccines that we need. The chickenpox, I think, can be a parent's choice, the rhodovirus, the flu shot that still contains mercury. J.B. Habitatis B, go ahead. The devil is always in the details, and one of the problems with vaccines is they've been so great that people overly generalize

about them as if they're only great. We looked at other first world countries. We're 34th in under five mortality behind such luminaries as Cuba and Slovenia. However, we have 36 vaccines, the top five, which include countries like Finland, Norway, Iceland, average 11 and 13 vaccines. And why are their autism rates, one in 1,000, 1 in 1,500, one in 2,000? It doesn't take a brain surgeon or an ER doctor to figure out there might be a correlation.

In my opinion, and this is just me wanting to have an open debate about this, vaccines are really the one thing we have looked at as causing autism. I agree with you. That is completely bogus. That is such a bogus statement. How many vaccines have they looked at in these studies? How many? What's the answer? It's two.

How many ingredients have they studied of 35? What's the answer? It's one. You've looked at two of 36 shots and one of 35 vaccines, and you're gonna stand on the stage and say that vaccines and autism are unrelated. It is the most bogus tobacco science. It's a smokescreen.

Anybody who takes the time to read it would agree. I'm so sick of doctors who don't read the studies, who don't know the details, sitting here telling parents and reassuring that vaccines don't cause autism. It is irresponsible. And this is the biggest problem and the reason that doctors in this country are frustrated. Read the science! Listen, all you're doing is you're antagonizing a medical community that wants to help these kids.

You haven't done the research. You're antagonizing me. You're antagonizing Dr. Sears. Why would you do that? We are so frustrated by not being heard. We are so tired of not being heard. And we're so tired of hearing doctors like the second doctor there who says, it's been proven that vaccines and autism are unrelated. It's simply untrue and it's maddening as a parent to know the truth. It's always mind-blowing to watch that.

And you know, you, and I've said this before, you were there all alone. I mean, without you, that story doesn't get out. I think of all the parents out there that saw that episode and probably started thinking twice. Maybe this autism is the vaccine that my pediatrician is saying it's not. You were just so instrumental, but you were all alone. No. When you look at, I was saying to Aaron now, when you look at the shift now,

hearings on vaccine safety, you're watching the news, and politicians are saying, we've got to think twice about products that are just being forced on us, and that in using the V word. Right. Isn't it amazing?

It feels almost like a dream and a nightmare at the same time, because since then, I know there's been many people that have come up to me, say oh my god thanks to you you know i didn't maybe vaccinate my second child i don't want anyone to not do i just wanted to share my story yeah so people are informed because no one was informing them and so you know of the possibilities of the possibilities right right that's a just of the

possibilities she wasn't informing people of this will happen to all of your children if you don't stop right this is a possibility for some shouldn't that be enough yeah to cause concern and allow us to ask questions. And to just see when the whole coronavirus started coming up, I was like, oh, here we go. You know, the moment they started talking about it being pandemic, I said, here comes the mandatory vaccines. Yeah.

It's almost like if I wrote a script for my life before I was born, be like, this will happen and then this will happen. And in some ways, I kind of look at it and go, God, if this never happened with my own son, would I be awake right now? Yeah. Would I be standing in line at the pharmacy to get a shot? Like, people say, oh, my God, you saved Devon's life.

He saved mine. Yeah. You know, he woke me up early. And there was a lot of bad news about coronavirus, but the good news is, as people like minded people watching this show, and I love you guys, people are waking up. And I see that every single day. And I know you do too. And it's a beautiful thing.

I think I mentioned last time I had nurses and a lot of health people in the medical industry, you know, tweeting me saying, like, I. I apologize or not that I need one. But it just shows me that people are waking up. And that feels good. I've had a few of those people who come up. Like scientists that, you know, would pull me aside saying, even during COVID that you overstated like it's not, you know, the child. And then they've come up and said, now they've done my research.

I apologize for having really talked down to you and say, you know, you're talking about. You don't, you just feel grateful when people say that. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it.

A few hours later, same party. The person comes back and says, I can't believe you're not glowed. Like I'm not gloating. No. I'm so happy you are finally another person that is getting this. All right, let's just let's- She never gloats, by the way. She never, I cry sometimes because I'm just in the control room, some of the, to hear people say the things they say in the best ways, you know, you were there, thank you, you inspired me, there was no one else saying this.

And it's, again, you know, you showed that video. One of the videos she also showed me was, and she was, and she was. wasn't making a statement to me. She was showing me a lot of videos. And one of them was, you know, all I ever heard, all I ever hear about her in every article is anti-vax or Jenny McCarthy. Right.

I watched her on Larry King, Oprah, all these shows say, look, we're not an anti-vaccine movement. We just want safe vaccines. We want to make sure the testing is done. And we want to make sure that people know that different people are affected in different ways. And if your child could be susceptible, it's important mine was. This is the result in as far as I can understand it. And the thing is

is what I also discovered from hers, you know, we kind of, especially with the childhood vaccine stuff is we stop listening to moms. Indeed. You know, it's like the doctor there, I know he got upset and sometimes, you know, when you get really angry, and I would say this about myself. If I ever get angry, I don't get angry much. But when I do, I usually look and go, why do I get so angry? Yeah. What was my accountability in this? What did I do right you know if I have an argument with a friend of mine you know it's like I should have called you two weeks ago and brought this up instead of telling you after the fact my fault that's why I got mad right it's a deflection but so many

moms just weren't listened to you know we we've learned to to trust doctors and find doctors who we love a lot of people can't afford to do that all people don't have time to find a doctor that they could trust they just go to what they could do right but before any of that we learn to trust our moms usually when All these moms are standing up saying, something changed with my child. And people are like, yeah, no, you're just a mom, you're being emotional.

It's like, what world is this, that we live in that, we don't respect mothers? Yeah. And they're the closest person to their child, you know, and it doesn't even make sense with where we are in the world today. You know, it's like, why wouldn't we believe them? You know, that something happened.

And if it's, if mom, if this mom is mistaken, and it wasn't this, doesn't she have a right to at least inquire about it? That's what I was marveling at and really made me go, wait a minute. It's true. And it went from like moms also to even broader patients. Because people are coming in with vaccine injuries from COVID. And the doctors aren't believing them.

It's, it went from. Yeah. Definitely. And I think that a huge part of it was now it wasn't just moms being, it was doctor. Doctors saying I don't want to get this thing. Right. And then being called anti-vaxxers.

Correct. And probably even like, oh, you're going to be a Jenny McCarthy here? Why for that, by the way? Like, what? No, I just don't want this. They realized, is this all it took? Totally. Is this all it's going to take for anyone to become a Jen McCarthy?

Is actually asking a question? Like, hello? Yeah, the questions are to gain information, right? And information helps us make informed decisions. It's really simple math. And I respect people are different, you know, people. We have to. Yeah, absolutely.

Everyone has their own choices. It's just, you know, it's interesting because, like, you know, sometimes people joke about commercials. You see, if you have the TV on, you're going to see a lot of commercials about these things that come out. It's like side effects. People who need them and take them sometimes even go, oh my God, that's crazy.

Like when you hear those side effects, but there's a whole aspect of life where we're not given any information. We're not, you know, we don't even know we can ask for it. You just, you know, I brought my child in for a fever when he was, he had 103 fever, The doctor was like, well, while he's here, he's due for six shots. And I was like, I don't want to put him through any more pain. And he said, you know what?

It's fine. Come back in six months. Don't worry about it. And I was like, I thank him. Because, you know, even just injecting six things to my son on that day would have been the worst day of his and my life. Right. Now, I don't know what would have happened. I'm not saying, right?

But you listen to your instinct. My instinct. I was fortunate, you know, I was fortunate. I could afford to come back in six months. That's true. How many moms and dads in that moment have no choice, you know? And it's, again, it's just information, you know, the movie. I'm sorry, I'm going on, I'm rambling.

It's amazing. But, you know, it's amazing. People are loving it. It's really so amazing. I'm sitting here, Donnie, thinking that there's a chance that you could have slipped into my life. Like you're wired like I am, which is like all I'm asking is a question here. And the more you're telling me I can't ask this question. is making me realize I really gotta ask it louder.

You know what I really gotta, you know? And I like being asked questions. Yeah. You know, I'm gonna go on tour, my fans all wanna know, where are the tickets? How's this gonna work? How's that gonna work? It's like, the more information they have,

the more, the better informed they could be to make a decision, do I wanna go to this concert? Do I wanna do this? Do I wanna do this show? Do I wanna do these things? Or is it worth my time and my effort? And if they say no, at least I gave them as much information as I could.

I respect if they say no. You know, it's their decision, it's their choice, it's their life. I honor that. And we should all do that with each other. That's why we love the show, Del. It's information, the best information. Speaking of, I mean, and you asked yourself the question, you know, you said, you know, where would I have been had I not gone through this experience?

You actually, there's a lot of things you do with your life now. You have a makeup line. Like, I mean, like about cleanliness and health. I'm not a fan of heavy metals, as you know. Right. Except music. But really quickly, because I am really proud of this, and I'm addicted to the show, and I know you guys talk about in every facet, you know, toxins and stuff.

But when I started diving into clean makeup, I was really surprised back in 2017 that the last time makeup was regulated was 80 years ago. Now in 2020, they just came out with a little regulation, but nothing, you know, where it needs to be. And I don't trust anybody anymore. I don't trust any agency to govern any. So I said I'm gonna make my own and you know Donnie's been watching me build this from the ground up It's like little me by myself, but in there making sure the ingredients are as good as they can be Mind you the safest makeup is no makeup at all but I like makeup So we went in and found you know I like it too. I just she puts some eyebrows on me this morning

I beat down my chemist to really find because like there's hormone disruptors in mascara and almost all of them. So now we've got mascara that doesn't have hormone disruptors, lip gloss that is good for you, healthy, none of that crap in it. But I was just surprised by how much stuff is still in makeup.

So I'm hoping to, you know, I'm going up against the big giant, so any support is welcome. You're a big giant. What's the broadline call? Formless beauty. Formless beauty. And where do we find it?

Formless beauty.com. All right. She's good. I'm sure that, I mean, look, as hard as you've worked, you know what it means. You've detoxed your son, your family, and it is, it's, I say this. Like, I'm not into being just a lunatic about all the, we are being bombarded from every direction

by all sorts of toxic issues, right? We're doing a lot of investigation, all these things. But you can drive himself crazy. I'm like, some planes flew by. What do you mean? He's like, no, read this. I just feel like, do what you can. You know what I mean?

There's simple things we can do. Like I try to watch what I eat, you know, as much as I can. I don't drink tap water. It's just a thing that we don't do in our, you know, wherever we can make a difference. Makeup. These are things that like you're going to put it on every day. So why make that something you're doing? Why put toxins into yourself?

Like there's plenty in your environment that are getting you anyway. It's so true. And four seconds, it's you have to look at it like, and I said this on the view. It's like, how full do you make up your barrel of toxins? Yeah. You know, try to keep it as low as possible. so you can't have that wine or that vodka on the weekend, you know? Right.

Because we're still going to want some type of toxins. Right. But it's keeping that bucket as low as possible from overflowing. Exactly. Because when it overflows, that's when you get cancer, autism, MS, you name Parkinson's. So you want to keep it as low as possible. And if women are wearing this daily and maybe some men that you might want to consider, you know, what is the ingredients? What are the ingredients?

I absolutely agree. I have to wear makeup for this show just because these lights benches. I get it. I get it. So we're going to look into it. Well, I really want to thank you. No, we're not done yet. What?

We love the show, but that's not the only reason we came down here. I did want to talk to you guys. Is this my camera? Go ahead. That camera. It doesn't matter. Just look right in. Yeah, you're looking at it.

We need your help. And I say we, as in team freedom. I'm not associated with the high wire or I can. Just I'm a passionate supporter and a donor. And I know that you guys are doing such. Huge, listen to me, they're doing huge things right now. They've got legal cases that will change the future for yourself, for your children, for your grandkids. The time is right now, and I've been at this so long, and I get to see what's happening kind of behind the scenes

a little bit, and I can see this, there's this movement that's happening. And I know Dell, every week, because I watch them, ask for donations, and I know there's a lot of you that are donating. So thank you so much for the ones that have. haven't yet. This is your time, you guys. I want to activate you through the lens to say, we need you now. Our army needs to be activated right now, whether it's $1, $2, even if the $23 a month would help so much fund these cases that are sitting here waiting to just change the world, but we can't do it without you, without the collective, without team freedom. So please, Please, I beg of you to be donators with us because there's no, the most important time is right now.

And that's why we flew all the way here. I'm like, I've got to tell people we can't wait anymore. You can't go from a large Starbucks to a small Starbucks. Like save any way to the street you can. I don't give it to $1. Just if everyone watching did $1 right now, it could help so much. And thank you. And I'm sorry, I just had to get up my soapbox to save this.

Well, you know, another thing, too, is. you can also just spread the word that if you want information that you're not going to get you know yeah you can get it here and if you spread that word you know I didn't know what the high wire was at first I knew you of course I knew you know a lot about you and what you did and I would hear Jenny in the gym and I would hear this show and I was like what is that show and I'm like I'd go watch and I would see the jacks report and I would like I really like that guy I honestly fell off the show because of the Jackson report. Sorry.

I've embarrassed them all day. You can just meet him when we're done. Well, you know, because it's just information. A lot of times I told him backstage, I said, what I like about you is you don't tell me what is. You don't tell me this is it and there's no other thing. Sometimes Jackson comes on and says, you know, I don't know. We're going to look more into it.

We'll see we could be wrong. Hopefully we are. Hopefully we're not accurate on this. indications are it could be. You know, that's information that I liked again. I thank you for creating a form and a platform for that for me. And the best thing I could do is spread the word that if you want more information to make decisions in your life. You know, I don't usually, I don't even know if we're designed for cameras, but can we get a hug? Yes. For a second. I just want thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So much. Oh man, you guys.

I've been such amazing friends and supporters. You're a good friend, Del. I want to sting out of the show. We have a music video that you put together during COVID. I just read very quickly. Yeah. What happened during COVID? Tell me about this.

Really quickly. Well, no, it's all right. No, no, no. It was a funny story. We talked about it, so I know you wanted to play it. And I want to be very clear. I love this song. I love what we did.

You know, when, and I'm so grateful to the artist who participated, It's just the funny story about it is, you know, about a week into the lockdowns. Yeah. We were, team to do it. We were good, but we were here. We were here and we were supportive and we were making videos and trying to be, you know, spread love and help everybody get through it. And but I started to think about if I was a kid, the way I grew up, as poor as I grew up with nine kids in the house. And my dad often laid off from his union job and my mom working nights, we wouldn't survive for two weeks.

We would be starving. My dad would say, screw the lockdown, go out and steal someone's vegetables from their yard. We have to eat. And so I decided to do a song to raise money. And we raised over a quarter million dollars for no kid hungry, right? Oh wow, fantastic.

The idea was to help poor people like I was and Jenny was. Just have some assistance financially because the assistance from the government came 12 months later, right? So we did the song, but the irony of the song is, I got all these artists, Big Frida, Boys to Men, Jordan Sparks, naughty by nature, my band, Nukes on the Block,

and Jenny's castmates are in the video. And we did this video just to say, have a party while we're in home for two weeks. While we're stuck at home. Have a party, just get through it and feel good. If you can feel good for three minutes with this song, hopefully you'll feel better. And we got to a point in the song

where I was having to order microphones online, ship them to the artist. They would record. send the vocals back to me and my producing partner. And I literally, we were like nine days into the COVID lockdowns. And I said, I got to drop the song. I got to forget about it. And she was like, why?

I said, because we're going to be back to normal in five days. Is I going to miss the window. The whole point is we're locked down. Stupidest song in history. Like it's going to come out, you know, we're all going to be back to work and school and golfing. And I was like, I got to, if this song isn't done tomorrow, I'm not putting it out. I got it done by the next day we put it.

it out and you know six months later we were still at home dancing to the song I was like totally how did this happen it just you know it's love that the madness of of life and the unexpectedness and the wild turns that it all took but no regrets and I don't want to mock the song because it really did good for people who really needed help and I respect the artists and the fans who bought the record and stuff but it was pretty funny like who knew you know who knew I can remember the day I said Yeah. I got to put the scrap the song. It's never coming out. We missed the window. We found the window. You sure did. The window, unfortunately expanded. Thank you to so much for coming here, but more than that, for just being such awesome people.

Thanks. And so honest and sharing and transparent, it's just such a breath of fresh air. It's no wonder that you have such amazing success because that's what we see in you. Right. You're really heroes to so many people because you're fearless, you're bold, you're brilliant, you're beautiful. And I'm so honored to be able to call you. Thank you. Thank you. Ditto. Bold and brave. All right. Great. Well, look, you know, if you get nothing else from this show today, know this, that love is so important. Your children, your wives, your spouses, your husbands, it's about family. So how about this for marching orders on top of? of everything else that we need to do to make this world a better place. Why don't you just grab those that you love inside your home and have a house party? And we'll see you next week. For those about to lose their minds, we got to remember that in the worst of times, it the best of times.

Turn it up.