The Highwire with Del Bigtree - THE WARNING WE IGNORED

Episode Date: January 8, 2022

An almost 40 year-old interview with an ex-KGB Defector, Yuri Bezmenov, has re-emerged and is going viral. Why is it going viral now? Del sits down with the journalist who conducted that interview, G. Edward Griffin, for a deep dive into the Russian spy’s extraordinary warning to the American people in 1984, and why this warning must be heeded today.Guest: G. Edward GriffinBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are out there in the world. How about we all come together and step out onto the high wire? Well, it's New Year's Eve tomorrow. All around the world, we're preparing for that. And I and my staff and even Jeffrey Jackson are taking this time with our families, but we decided to put together a show that I think will be very special. One of my favorite people on this earth is G. Edward Griffin. He's author of The Creature from Jekyll Island.

world without cancer, the story of vitamin B-17, and the fearful master, a second look at the United Nations. He has been documenting for several decades the corruption inside of our banking system, which is really famous for, our medical system, and he's also the founder of the Red Pill Expo and Red Pill University. I've had the opportunity to speak at Red Pill Expo and expose that audience that had never really looked at this vaccine issue, and it's just been a pleasure to know him. And to understand, I think, the new year and where we're going and where we want to be and trying to understand what's really happening here, sometimes you've got to take a look back before you can understand how to look forward. That's what we're going to do today. Here is just a little taste of what Ed Griffin has been saying around the world for the last several decades.

Please join me in giving a warm welcome to G. Edward Griffin. We're talking to G. Edward Griffin, who's a legend in his own time. We are with the great G. Edward Griffin. Ladies and gentlemen, the plans and preparations for a communist revolution of force and violence are far advanced. Our enemies are deadly serious about their task, and it's nothing short of national suicide for us to continue to ignore their plans and their progress. The major cause of most of our social, economic and political problems, certainly in America and I think around the world, are the consequences of what I'm, I call Idea X. The name is collectivism.

Mr. Besmeanov was born in 1939 in a suburb of Moscow. He had an outstanding career with novicey, a front for the KGB. One of his interesting assignments was to brainwash foreign diplomats when they visited Moscow. In 1913, the Federal Reserve System was created because Americans made a wish to the government genie. To control the banks on behalf of the people, what they got was a banking cartel that now controls the government. I'm here to express my views and encourage people to look beneath the surface of the news and understand that there's an ideology beneath all of this, and that we've got to awaken the

consciousness of the average person throughout the world that this is a life and death battle. If you awaken the sleeping giant, then freedom of freedom. will prevail, it will be returned. But that doesn't mean it'll be returned without a lot of paper. Now, I'm not a winemaker, but I would assume that if you are, there's probably that occasion where you press a wine, you thought you had good grapes, you did it all right, but when you finally taste and it's done, you just think,

I don't know, it's just really not got it. They don't like it, so you just stick in a bunch of cases and throw in the basement somewhere, probably be forgotten forever. And then maybe years or decades, later, you open up that case and say, wait, what was this? You forgot all about it. You opened it up and it ends up being one of the greatest wines you ever tasted. Now, as I said, I'm not a winemaker, but I am a journalist. And I think of a lot of the work that we're doing here on the high wire. Many times we talk about it as being a time capsule. Whether or not we

fully understand what it is we're talking about now, it'll be amazing to look back and see what we're talking about at this time. Well, that happens to be the case with a video that has gone viral. It's an interview by G. Edward Griffin of a KGB defector named Yuri Besmanov. Back in 1984, he sat down with G. Edward Griffin to talk about the plan that the Soviet Union had to bring communism to the world and more specifically to the United States of America. This is a chilling and outrageously ironic interview and a time capsule that should a illuminate the situation we find ourselves in and make us ask the question, is this all an accident or was it planned for a very long time? This is just a piece of that video that you've probably

seen sweeping across the internet over the last couple of months. What is the difference between life under communism and life in the United States? Well, life is obviously very much different for simple reason that the Soviet Union is a state capitalist economically. It's a state capitalism where an individual has absolutely no rights no value his life is nothing it's just like an insect he's disposable whereby in United States even the even the worst criminal is treated as a human being he has a fair trial and some of them capitalize on their crimes they they publish their memoirs in their prisons and get handsomely paid by your crazy publishers the differences of

course in the daily life are very various depending on who whom we are talking about in my own private life I never suffered from communism simply because I was brought up in the family of high-ranking military officer most of the doors were open for me most of my expenses were paid by the government and I never had any troubles with the authorities or with the police so in other words I would say I enjoyed or I had good reasons to enjoy all the advantages of so-called socialist system. Well, what do you think are the chances of the people actually overcoming their system or replacing it? There is a great possibility that system will sooner or later be destroyed from within.

There is a self-destructive mechanism built into any socialist or communist or fascist system because there is lack of feedback because the system does not rely upon loyalty of population. But until this Soviet junta is being supported by the Western so-called imperialists, that is, multinational companies, establishments, governments, and let's face it, intellectuals, so-called academia in the United States, is famous for supporting the Soviet system. Soviet system. As long as the Soviet junta will keep on receiving credits, money, technology, grain deals and political recognition from all these traitors of democracy or freedom,

there is no hope, there is not much hope for changes in my country. And the system will not collapse by itself, simply because it's being nourished by so-called American and This is the greatest paradox in history of mankind when capitalist world supports and actively nourishes its own destroyer, destructor. I think you're trying to tell us something in this country. I'm trying to tell you that it has to be stopped unless you want to end up in Gulag system and enjoy all the advantages of socialist equality. working for free, catching fleas on your body, sleeping on the planks of plywood in Alaska this time, I guess. That's where Americans will belong, unless they will wake up, of course,

and force their government to stop aiding Soviet fascism. Well, that was Soviet defector and former KGB agent, Uri Besmanov, talking to G. Edward Griffin at that time in 1984, honor and pleasure to be joined now nearly 40 years later by G. Edward Griffin. So first of all, it's such an honor. Obviously we've been at Red Pill Expo. We've stood on stages together, but you know, this video is now going viral, I think, because as we see, he talks about if you don't stop what's happening here, you will have gulags. You will be living in a controlled world. And now we're seeing, you know, maybe not in the United States quite yet, but we're seeing almost

concentration camps for people that, you know, are sick from COVID in Australia. We're seeing discussions about those being built in Canada, you know, even ideas of FEMA camps and things like that in America. And, you know, people want to say conspiracy theory, you know, all of these things. But when you look at an interview with someone like this, and essentially you made a time capsule almost 40 years ago that now is proving to not just be a theory of conspiracy, but actually shows us that what we think is a surprise and is catching us by surprise was known, certainly by Yuri, this gentleman, but that means many other people. What are your thoughts now looking back on that interview? Well, my thoughts are that it took a long time to get the truth out.

And as you say, the truth was known. A lot of us had been reading the communist literature ourselves. We knew. Our government knew. Major personalities in the media knew. But it was very fattish at the time to hush it up. Don't speak ill of the Russians. They didn't say communists.

Don't speak ill of the Russians as though there was no difference between the Soviets and Russia. Because we're trying to be friends with them. We're trying to reach a detente. We're working to build this grand thing called the New World Order. And we can't do that if we're exposing the fact that they're trying to take us over, literally. So I understood what we were up against,

and so was Yeribesminov. He was greatly saddened and frustrated because he came at great risk to his life, you understand. He escaped from this system. That's a harrowing story in itself. But back in those days, they were running down these people. any defectors, they would chase them down no matter where they went in the world and kill them

because they didn't like that happening. And so Yuri was at great risk to do this. And he came first to Canada and eventually he made it to the United States, thinking that he would be welcomed with open arms by the CIA and the FBI. Oh, here's a real genuine source of information or what's going on. And they shunned him. They didn't want to talk to him. They took his testimony and they questioned him and said, you know, like they weren't interested.

And they wouldn't even pay as, I think, he said, said they wouldn't they would even pay for his hotel room you know and they said we suggest you go back to canada where you came from so he was crushed he had no idea that that his testimony would not be welcomed by the intelligence apparatus in the United States and looking back on it we know it's because they already knew this this is not news he wasn't saying anything that the CIA and the FBI didn't know but so he was crushed and he went back to Canada and then he died a few years later a very sad, sad person. So now what's my reaction?

All I can think of, well, it's about time that we get this word out. And it's because I think, because you can see everything he was talking about and projecting that would happen, mostly now has already happened. So now people are listening. And at the time, it was difficult for anybody living in this grand land of ours, where everything was wonderful and everybody had so much money and time off. And the standard of living was so high. We had a great deal of freedom.

Who is this guy from Russia talking about conquest from within? No, go away. You know, I'm going to go back to my golf game. Now, of course, a lot of this is happening before our very eyes. And now, almost too late, but not too late. Almost too late. People are saying, what was that again? So that's my reaction.

I think it's about time. I wish it had happened earlier, but it's happening now. And that's very good. You know, for me, I consider myself politically marooned now. I'm not a, I don't consider myself a political entity. I was a very outspoken, liberal, progressive growing up. My parents marched in the 60s. They were hippies.

They spoke of freedom. So I have a real sense of freedom and I think liberty. But as I've been involved in the process that has been on the high wire in discussing the issues of pharmaceutical interactions with our government, all of that has sort of eroded away. and I have to say watching this video, I realize I still have, you know, a fondness for what I was being raised to believe in liberal thinking that is just under attack throughout this interview. But we've got to come to terms with it because seeing what he predicted is so unbelievably clear. And so this next video, really, he talks about the leftists and how this.

they're going to be used inside of, you know, America to move the agenda that is not just, you know, a Soviet agenda, it's a worldwide communist agenda. Right. Let's take a look at this. But to eliminate the others, to execute the others, don't they serve some purpose? Wouldn't they be the ones they rely on? No, they serve purpose only at the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your leftists in United States, all these professors and all these beautiful

civil rights defender, they are instrumental in the process. of the of the subversion only to destabilize the nation when their job is completed they are not needed anymore they know too much some of them when they get disillusioned when they see that Marxist Lenin has come to power obviously they get offended they think that they will come to power that will never happen of course they will be lined up against the wall and shot but they may turn into the most bitter enemies of Marxist Leninists when they come to This clip is fascinating to me because I feel like that's what's happening to me.

Having come from, you know, that sort of liberal perspective, leftist perspective, that we're all in this together, right, and we should all work together and the good of the all in many ways over the good of the individual. And now as I see how incredibly dangerous that is, the destruction of the brilliance of individual, you know, integrity and creativity. I start realizing, and perhaps I guess there's a lot of people that would argue I'm a pretty strong voice now for independence. And so I feel that inside of myself. But when, you know, he talks about that, he predicts that these people running the universe, and this is a big conversation right now, right?

What's happening in our schools? What's happening in our universe? What's happening with our children in this schooling system? What are your thoughts now on education in America? Well, I think the larger issue there is, It's not just education, but every other field you can think of, the economy and health care and media. Everything is in a state of being destroyed. And I think there's the underlying issue that maybe wasn't made quite as clear as it could have been in that interview.

But the whole purpose of all of these revolutionary movements, whether they be communist, labeled communist or fascist or what have you, and going back to the – well, let me just jump to the chase. that the issue is not to bring about reform, but to bring about destruction. What do you mean? Destruction. They're not trying to change society. Yes, they are trying to change society

in favor of this collectivist beehive, but they know well that you cannot do it as long as there is any remnant of the old system left in place. And so everything they do is aimed, although they say it's to improve or protect, enhance everything. It's to destroy the,

existing system to burn it down to leave no nobody standing they want everybody on their hands and knees begging for food and shelter and protection from whatever it could be a virus it could be environmental destruction it could be terrorism it could be climate change you know it could be drugs and could be crime in the streets or whatever they want people shivering and fear and asking for protection that's what they want and in order to bring that about they have to destroy literally everything and once that's done the the ones that they've recruited to do this in hopes of building this utopia, they are now dispensable, of course.

And when they realize that they have destroyed, but nothing has been built on it except more or the same or even worse, now, as Uri says, they will turn against their handlers or their owners at the top. So they're very wise people, and they had that figured out a long, long time ago. And I'm glad you picked up on that because, yes, so many people today really think that they are destroying the system because they want to replace it with something so much more noble and so much that's not going to happen yeah there's a you know we've been tracking this group called the world economic forum headed by a klaus swab who's is almost perfectly cast as a James Bond villain oh yeah it's really outrageous but we see you know presidents of the united states going to these meetings

you know, discussing, you know, this greater system. And as you said that, this idea of telling us that we're going to build this utopian world, I think we're all hearing it a lot. And maybe it's going over our heads. But just as you described it, right now, what is being called is build back better. This is just sort of that slogan. Remember, not written by the United States of America as you see it in the voices of, you know, different national leaders coming from outside of our borders, but to see our own leaders,

leaders using this is quite incredible. Take a look at this. I see the need for action. I see the need for a great reset. This pandemic has provided an opportunity for a reset. History would look at this crisis as the great opportunity for reset. We have a unique but rapidly shrinking window of opportunity and reset ourselves on a more sustainable path. The great reset. The great reset.

The great reset. What does the great reset look like? reset look like? We can't just build back to what it was before. We have to build back better. This moment also gives us a much greater chance to be radical and to do things differently, to build back better and to build back bolder. We will build back better from the COVID crisis. We're going to take an economy that had a lot of problems and we're going to make this economy work better going forward. We're at the early stages of a sustainability revolution.

It's empowered by the IOT and artificial intelligence. It has the magnitude of the industrial revolution, but the speed of the digital revolution. The fourth industrial revolution in automation. The future is coming whether we like it or not. And we have to play catch-up as quickly as possible. When we talk about the great reset, it means also how can we do it to make sure

that a majority of people are benefiting from it and not just a minority. We must treat this new world order, this new world of COVID. We must treat this new world of COVID, even in our own homes, with a high level of care and caution. So, I mean, we're hearing this term. I hear it all the time now on the news. It's quite eerie because I know build back better was not a slogan, as I said, written

by an ad agency for Joe Biden. But I hear Nancy Pelosi saying, you know, this is Joe Biden's idea. Bill Glinton, build back better, Joe Biden, build back better. And it's exactly what you said. Yet I'm walking into grocery stores, and it appears part of building back better. As I see empty shelves, I think for the first time in my lifetime, in what I remember, as though, and I'm starting to think this is starting to look like what I read it was like to live in the Soviet Union. How is it that these people that are telling me this is all about building back better, I feel like my country is being torn to the ground? Well, it is, and that's the point. It's not an accident. They're not making a mistake. The goal is to tear it down to the ground. Notice the word back, not just to build better, but to build back better implies that it's been destroyed. And that really is the hidden objective to destroy it because they know that people who are struggling for survival are not worrying about whether the solution being offered to them is constitutional or even legal. A drowning man is not interested in a,

discussion on the Constitution. All he wants is air to breathe and they want everybody in that panic state of drowning for survival. They've got to just do something. And now under those conditions, these politicians and these social engineers can propose any madness they wish and say, well, people will survive and they will be enough for all and not just the few and all these slogans come through and people will not think it through. They'll just say, sounds good for me, let's go with it. That's the whole idea. It's very simple. And the funny thing is it's been the idea all along. I started to discover this back in 1960, and it hasn't changed one bit since then.

How often do you find yourself saying I told you so? Well, I never say that. I often think so, but I don't want to make people angry at me. And besides, it's not me telling them so. I'm just taking it from the literature of our would-be oppressors. They talk about it. It's their language. And I just happen to discover it.

And other people, as many people know about this, but their voices are being stifled. So that's the good thing about what's happening today, is now it's so obvious that this is going on. People are saying, what did you say again? And they're becoming interested. And this is essential if we're going to do something about it. In this interview with Uri Besmanov, he lays out sort of the plan as he was trained to do it, you know, working for the KGB. He came up in a military family.

His father was well respected, and so he sort of filled that out, had a very good life. You know, wasn't necessarily a spy, but he talks about becoming more of a propagandist. He sent into countries to manipulate their concept of the Soviet Union, of their own lifestyles. He sort of lays out these points. At one point, you asked him a really good question because it's sort of what his whole thing's built on, but is what is subversion. And so let's take a look at this as his answer. You spoke several times before about ideological subversion.

That is a phrase that I'm afraid some Americans don't fully understand. When the Soviets use the phrase ideological subversion, what do they mean by it? Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate, all word, and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do, all American mass media has to do, is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes, and they can see it. There is no mystery. There is nothing to do with espionage. I know that espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic. It sells more deodorants through the advertising, probably.

That's why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bone type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area, of intelligence at all. According to my opinion and opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, actively in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is to change the people, perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance

of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interests of defending themselves their families their community and their country it's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and it's divided in four basic stages the first one being demoralization it takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which requires to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy, exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generations of American students, without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.

The result? You can see. Most of the people who graduated in 60s, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, educational system. You are stuck with them. You cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic

information, even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still cannot change the basic perception and the logic of behavior. In other words, these people, the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To get read society of these people, you need another 20 or 15 years to educate a new new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of the United States society. There's a lot there. I can imagine watching it in its time and thinking, as you said, we have a great life, this guy's

depressing, he's a nobody, this is ridiculous, this is absolutely ridiculous. Now when we find ourselves, those of us waking up and wondering why everyone else is not recognizing what's taking place, but I still watch it. And there's something about growing up and believing in American exceptionalism. We're so fantastic. I mean, we've probably got the biggest egos, I think, of any nation in the world. We're perfect. We have freedom.

We have liberty. There's no way we would ever let an infiltration like that happen. On the one hand, and number two, at the time he's saying this, it's already. happening, right? He's already talking. We're already in here. We're already running your universities. In this interview, you didn't get into details on how they got there. How the heck did they get in there? How did this start? How did we let it in when we had a nation? And I always grew up thinking the Soviet Union was the enemy. So how had we let the enemy get inside of our education systems and inside of our media? Dale, that's a very interesting

question because the answer, which I suspect you probably already know, is very surprising to most people. It's surprising to me. And what I'm leading to is the fact that the infiltration of our educational system was done by people that we would normally call the enemies of communism. They would be called the great big capitalists. We're talking about the Rockefellers and the Carnegie's, who back at the turn of the last century decided that they wanted to change the thinking of the American people away from the

traditional values of America and encouraged them to accept the idea of collectivism, and they used that word, to be the ideal and the wave of the future. And in order to do that, they said that they had to change the curriculum in the universities. And in order to do that, they had to spend some money and make donations to some of the larger universities so they could control who got the chairs of the various departments. that they hired the professors who would teach the courses, and it was a very quick conversion to a program in the educational system financed by the big, quote, capitalists of the world

to bring about the change that we're seeing now. Now, they're not communists, but the, now this is why it's so important. They believe the same as the communists and the Nazis and the fascists. They are collectivists, and this is why most Americans and most people around the world, and at one time myself,

I couldn't understand this because I thought that the collectivists or the communists, the fascists, were all opposing each other and that the capitalism was opposed to all of them and so forth. And then I find out that no, they all believe basically the same thing, and that's collectivism, which is a study in itself, but you would recognize it immediately when I say that the main idea of collectivism is that the group is more important than the individual, and that the individual must be sacrificed, if necessary, for the greater good of the greater number. So the collective and the group becomes important.

The individual like you and me, any person is dispensable. They're like ants, as he said, they could be squashed. So that's why people like the Rockefellers and the Carnegie's and all of the great industrialists of the last century were actually fascinated by Adolf Hitler. That's how one of the reasons Hitler got an easy rise to power. he was funded by a lot of American capitalists and British capitalists, all of whom were not really capitalists at all. They were wealthy collectivists. And so this opens up a door that we

need to go through to understand that these old words of communism, fascism, socialism, Nazism don't serve us well. We have to understand that beneath that there's a common ideology called collectivism, and that's our enemy. And so as long as they think that you've got to be on the left wing or as a communist or if you're opposed to, communism you have no other choice but to be on the other side on the right wing in which case you're a nazi or a fascist where you lose either way but basically the same we have to understand that right and left is not it's not real it's a trick it's a trick for our minds that we think we we have to fight one or the other so we have to be on the other side and it makes no difference i think

of the best analogy is a professional wrestling match my grandmother used to watch wrestling matches on the television back in the day. She really gets into it. She said, look out behind you. He's going to get you. All this. My grandmother. And I didn't know any different at the time, but I realized now that both of those wrestlers probably were working for the same manager, the same paycheck from the same guy. And they probably met in the locker room and said, boy, that was a good fight. Let's go out and have a beer, you know? They have to put on a show. They have to make it look. There's one side opposed to the other side. Otherwise, the people won't come. This is politics in our age. So that's what he's talking.

about. And you know, when I think about what you're saying, honestly, I didn't know that answer. I mean, I appreciate you sort of trying to benefit me with more intelligence that perhaps I'm, you know, or a position I'm in yet, I'm getting there and trying to understand it. But when you say they believe in collectivism, it doesn't affect them. It's not collectivism for themselves. They still have capital. They still wreak the benefits. Is it from the dawn of this nation? Or is it that capitalism builds up wealth? It allows those that rise to the top. They got there and then said, now let's just close the door on everybody else. Now that is, is that what it is?

And we'll now move the rest of the nation now that we've got the power. We have the money. Oil was a big boom. You know, we industrialized the nation. Why let any other big players in here? Why don't we just move them into believing in collectivism while we, you know, maintain hierarchical independence? I think that's closer to the truth, Dell.

You know, historically, all systems lead to a, wealthy ruling class and the impoverished masses. I don't care what time in history or what you call it. All systems tend to do that. Under true classical capitalism, it's not just because somebody's rich that makes them a capitalist. Under the classic definition, it's the private ownership

of property and the means of production. When property and the means of production are owned by individuals and not by the group or the state or the corporation or whatever, then there's an idea of, taking care of yourself and competition. Competition is good because it leads to the finest products and the best services otherwise you fail. Right. So these robber barons as we call them from the last century rose up in a classical system of

capitalism and they had to out-compete their opponents or they couldn't have risen to the top but they became pretty ruthless at it and when they finally got to the top they said basically to themselves okay now we're on top of the hill we want to change the system so nobody can replace us. Right. So that's when they went to the old world and began to import the ideas from Britain primarily of the chartered corporation and all of that thing. We had to have permission from the Crown to run a business, then you got favoritism

so you can out-compete your competition. There was no free enterprise or very little, actually very little private ownership either in Europe at that time. So yes, I think you're actually right that these robber barons, so to speak, got the idea that now we're on top of the hill, let's put the gate up. Keep it that way. Yeah, and so they converted the system back to the old style, which is basically collectivism. Which I mean, I think is very, you know, when we talk about, I said, is the world economic

forum, which, you know, maybe I'm just locking on something that's getting a lot of attention. There may be something above it, but it certainly seems to be this idealism that's being shared. And I used in a talk recently at Red Pill where I was at with you, but I talk a lot about this video that was put out by the World Economic Forum, right? This isn't me mocking them. This isn't us. This isn't a conspiracy theory video. This came from them. They're saying this is your future. And, you know, it's a propaganda piece for what we're supposed to believe in. And under the circumstance of what you just said, this idea of collectivism, owning nothing,

you know, being back, we're all equal. We're told we're equal when there's truly something above us. It's no longer some old propaganda piece. This video that's circulating the world right now is exactly what their dream is. And they say it right to us. Yeah, they say it indeed, especially if you notice that middle word, middle word, build back better. Right. That means backward, doesn't it? And that's exactly what they're talking about, moving backward in the evolution of our economies around the world.

Moving back toward this situation where there's master and there's slave. That's what they mean by move back. Yeah. Better. But they make us feel like we're moving forward, and this is the video where to try to do that. You know, as I watched that, I'm thinking to myself, the audience must think that you and I sat down and planned how we're going to have this conversation to set up that video so perfectly. But the truth is, you have no idea what videos I'm going to play as we're sitting here.

We just found out you were in town. We decided to sit down here. And the reason I say that is because it's so clear that your knowledge, what you've been stating, in your books, in your interviews over the last several decades, has so clearly led up to what we're seeing right here. Now we are being told in a video that by people that are president, this current president of United States, you know, President Joe Biden, appears to agree with this principle. And we look at it from the beginning. Everyone will be equal essentially because no one will own anything, everyone will rent. And as you're saying, this idea that the Rockefellers,

and you know this is the final step right just accepting our lot is we don't own a damn thing down here and my friends i actually have friends i mean i have very powerful progressive liberal friends as you're saying i can show them all the evidence in the world and you know i'm not going to shift their minds they've i've showed them this video and they're like i don't see the problem with that we're all equal as like equal who are you renting from you know what i mean like somebody is not equal in this scenario and then you know all the things you've already discussed that that says that America will no longer be a leading superpower, which is a terrifying thought that we have a president now as the leader of the United States of America believing in an

ideal that says we aren't going to be that beacon of light and hope, of liberty, of freedom, of, you know, race relations, of sexuality, all of the things that we've always led, no matter where we're at, you know, we're better than the rest of the world, and we're always attempting to make ourselves, you know, stronger and learn. That's not our position anymore. said earlier in our interview they create a fear and a need transplants we're going to be able to save your lives without us you know you'll never die again you're not going to eat you know meat we're going to control what you eat I mean just the idea when we watch this that this is that there are people that made this video and said people are going to love this

I know it reminds me of a barker at a circus you know right you're going to love this show right well yeah and and the unspoken part of that is that people don't realize if they get all these goodies that are supposed to be so wonderful, you're going to rent everything. And if you can't afford it, well, we'll give you the money so you can rent it. Oh, that's even better. They don't realize that if you don't do exactly as you're told, you will have no rent to pay. You'll be out in the street with your hat in your hand begging for support for food. It's the ultimate control.

You will have no way to sustain yourself if you don't have money. And that's part of this program here, is to get really. of money. It's all going to go digital and it'll come from the central banks. And as long as you obey orders, you'll be fine. You'll have your little square platform to live in. You'll probably get a color television set even and some beer. But you step out in line and you'll be out on the curb. This is the end game that people don't see. Right. Well, and this is what Uri was telling us as he was warning us that it was about demoralization, we're going to demoralize you, you don't see it coming,

and then by the time it's there, you know, what are you going to do about it? Take a look at what he has to talk about when they've completed the demoralization task. The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already. For the last 25 years, actually it's over-fulfilled, because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously, not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore.

A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. even if I shower him with information with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures. Even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crashes his... Then he will understand, but not before that. That's the tragic of the situation of demoralization.

So basically, America is stuck with... demoralization and unless even if if you start right now here this minute you start educating new generation of American it will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of ideological perception of reality back to normal normalcy and patriotism I want to watch this video right now I mean there's people that watch our show all the time we are constantly showing the death the death rates of this vaccine for instance right now now, murdering, you know, countless people, the denial of hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin

in hospitals, you know, drug treatments that are proven of work in thousands of studies, tens of thousand people around the world being denied that and then being told 700,000 people have died in the hospital, we're watching them be killed. We show where, you know, and I know people reach out to the show, I show my friends, the science you're showing, I read it, you know, and the high wire, it's not just what I say. I have an email list. I send all of the evidence, Everything I talk about in every show on Monday, you know, our audience receives every link to every study because I don't want them saying, Del Bigtree said, I want you to be able to say, here's the peer-reviewed science that says. Yet they'll report back to me, Del, I showed it right to their face. They read it and just said, that can't possibly be true. And so when he's saying, once the demoralization is complete, we own your mind. Like it doesn't matter. You can show them all the evidence in the world and they're just not going to move. Well, as you've said so well, everybody's having that experience in their own families, their friends everywhere, and there are, of course, enough people breaking out of that spell to create some hope for it.

But I think that probably a good 50% at least of the population is not going to be able to make that transition. So that's tragic. But on the other hand, it's not as tragic as you might think because I have concluded that all of history any great change in history has been written not by the masses or the 50%, but by the 15% who were led by the 1% of the thought leaders. And that 15% mobilized against the 15% of the other end of the spectrum who were perhaps trying to build a totalitarian state. It's always 15% against 15%. And that 70% in the middle is just waiting around. they don't know what's going on.

They say, how is this all going to turn out? And no matter which side wins, they'll say, well, I was on your side all along. Right. So that's discouraging. The sheep as we talk about. Yeah. They'll always be there.

They'll always be there. Just who's going to be the shepherd. That's right. So the encouraging part is that we only need 15% of the population. And I believe that we already have that. It's just that they don't know it. They think they're alone. So our task really is to allow people who understand the truth of what we're discussing here,

to discover each other and to come together and create a coalition. And we'll figure out what to do at that point. I've got some ideas, but we really don't know until we have the coalition in place. That's it. You know, I look at the numbers a lot. When I, you know, of course, you were brilliant enough. And really in some ways, I guess also always ahead of your time. But after I had been touring with VACs, the Red PIL was really focused on banking and currency and issues like that.

And you said, you know what, bring that vaccine discussion in here. And so I remember talking to your audience, and at first, I think they were like, what is this about? Like, you know, and I said, this is going to end up being the biggest issue you've ever heard of. And now, you know, it's been fun. You did. You said this would be the biggest issue and the biggest challenge to civilization ever. Yeah. I thought, that's a big statement. Yeah.

But you're right on target. Yeah. It's been really wild to watch it. And it's been great to have the forum that you've created to be there. But as we look at that shift that's happened. And, you know, those people, I look at the numbers. When I started this, they would say unvaccinated people around 2 to 3%, maybe you could say maybe up to 10%

we're questioning or hesitant. And I look at this nation now where, you know, they like to tell us we have this huge vaccine push and it's working in America, but we, they haven't even hit 60% fully vaccinated in this nation. I think they may never really get there as they need more and more vaccines to consider them fully back they're moving backwards here but that says to me like when I look at these numbers and this is

just one issue of course and you know the alignments are coming from different places but when you see that questioning group that aren't going along that somehow haven't been fully brainwashed yet it appears to me that there's about 45% maybe and I think they'll beat on them you know I think we'll see you know this vaccine issue I'm saying is a really good monitor right now of who who do we think we can sort of, you know, get together. I think we're going to hold above 30% in this country, which says to me that I think we're double. I think we're past, you know, that 15% marker by long ways. We might be twice, we might have twice the size of that, but you're right. They don't know the there. They don't know we're here and they don't know how much power 30% of this

nation would have. Well, it is, it is power. And of course, I don't want to get too pessimistic, but we have to be realistic and that the powers that be do have some pretty powerful weapons. And numbers don't always count when you have weapons. But they always count in the end because there are people in the other camp. I remember we're speaking maybe this sounds off the wall to some of your viewers. What other camp? What is this? A military thing going?

Well, it's not military, but it is a camp. We're at war. And there are people in the other camp, so to speak, that don't want to be there. And they don't know how to get out. there will be defectors like Yuri Besminov and many of them. And when that starts to happen, I think you'll see that the weapons that we're afraid of or concerned about maybe will fall into disrepair or won't be used. I think the other side, the other camp, has got a big problem that may not have anticipated,

and that's holding its own people in place. Because when they see the outcome of this tragedy and they see the debts, their own family, their own friends and maybe their own children and so forth. They cannot continue the way they are. They have to see the light at some point. And then everybody will have that crisis of decision of what to do about it. Do we continue to service and pay allegiance to evil, or do we stand against it? We're coming to that point in history.

It's scary. But I look forward to it because after that point is reached, that's when we get to start rebuilding a brighter fuel. Yeah, I think that's absolutely right. You know, when you're talking to Yuri, he talked about the demoralization and that was complete. The next step, and I think the step we probably, and it's interesting watching, because it almost feels like he thinks it's going to happen tomorrow. If there's only the one thing maybe he didn't fully nail to the wall was just perhaps how long it was going to take that sort of takeover. I mean, it was still, we're now in those final stages.

And one of those final stages he talks about is the destabilization. After you've demoralized nation, you have to destabilize it. This is what you had to say. The next stage is destabilization. This time, subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption. Whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby, it doesn't matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from two to five years to destabilize a nation, it's, what matters is essentials.

Economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some areas, in such sensitive areas as defense and economy, the influence of Marxist-Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world, that the process will go that fast. The next stage, of course, is crisis. It may take only up to six weeks to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You can see it in Central America now.

And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have so-called the period of normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in 68, Comrade Brezhnev said, now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized. This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all this show.

allow all the schmucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and the paradise on earth, to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a big brother government in Washington, D.C., with the benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale, who will promise lots of things, never mind whether the promises are fulfillable or not. He will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of new generation of Soviet assassins. Never mind, he will create false illusions that the situation is under control. Situation is not under control.

Situation is disgustingly out of control. Most of the American politicians, media and educational system, trains another generation of people who think they are living at a peacetime. False. United States is in the state of war. is in the state of war, undeclared total war, against the basic principles and the foundations of this system. And the initiator of this war is not Comrade Andropov, of course.

It's the system. However ridiculous it may sound, the world communist system or the world communist conspiracy, whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hood. If you are not scared by now, nothing can care you. But you don't have to be paranoid about it. What actually happens now that unlike myself, you have literally several years to live on unless the United States wake up. The time bomb is ticking. With every second, the disaster is coming closer and closer. Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to. Unless you want to live in Antarctica with penguins. This is it. This is the last. country of freedom and possibility. As he was sitting there speaking about destabilization is the next step.

And then the next plan is crisis. That then we bring crisis and crisis only takes, he said, six weeks to have its effect. And as soon as he said six weeks, my mind just said 14 days to flatten the curve. You know, did we ever flattened it? And this crisis that we have found ourselves in. And not just the United States of America in every other situation, maybe you can correct. me, my understanding of history is there's never truly been a concept or a war or a leader or a dictator where its effect was in every nation of the world. This is a crisis. If there is a,

as he said, a communist global organization beyond just the leader in Soviet Union, it would attack the whole world. And I sit here thinking, my God, there's an attack on the whole world right now with one crisis, as he just described, that I would say, though we are a year, and a half into it, it took less than six weeks to get the entire world to buy into it in many ways. Right. Yeah. And you could argue that from their point of view, it's already over. Yeah. Because they're just in it. They would consider, I think, that they're in a mop-up phase right now. And but it's not really that way. I think they still have some more to go. And that's where I'm optimistic. Yeah. They have not locked it up. I don't think they anticipated so much pushback,

particularly in the United States. Fortunately, I think there's enough flywheel action in the U.S., enough left of our heritage, our culture, a way of thinking, it's so-called independence, even though they're overly cocky, we didn't really know what freedom was. Still, it was sort of a tradition and still is where people say, well, this is the American way, we do it ourselves, right? In spite of what they're teaching in the universities,

depending, still, that undercore is there. And they're a more privately owned fight. privately owned firearms in the United States per capita, then they place else in the world. And I don't think this issue is going to be resolved with weapons of that kind. But I'm sure that slows these guys down when they realize there are millions and millions of people

who probably are not going to... There's a few things slowing, you know, this, and I totally agree with everything you just said. When I look at the United States of America, there are other nations that have really fallen with this vaccine thing, even though they didn't want to. And they all appear to be socialist, you know, on the verge of communist nations.

And though there may be a drive to push there. We still have a very powerful constitution standing away. And when I look at the difference of states, you know, you look at some states where they're threatening going door to door forcing a vaccine on people. I was like, that's not going to happen in Texas. Yeah. You know, that's not going to happen in Arizona. That's not going to happen in Idaho. You know, there are places. So whether or not I don't think it should come to arms, there is something about the existence of that that changes the flow of a value system like this. It changes the game considerably. Yeah. So we have that. And no place else in the world does and I've heard from people overseas as I'm sure you have too they're looking to us yeah especially the folks in Australia they're saying save us save us we can't help ourselves anymore right please stop it over there yeah maybe we will benefit from it so once again we find ourselves in the in the hot seat it's not only us but it's a lot of other people as well it's a one huge opportunity it's also one huge responsibility so the big question

is will we be able to rise to the challenge I think we can I think we will because I've I've learned I think I've learned this pretty well that every time I as a person have met some kind of a crisis or an obstacle real tragedy no matter how bad it was and I look back in retrospect it's the best thing that ever happened to me true it forced me to go into a different direction that's right do something I didn't know I had the potential to do this also I see in history it forces nations and peoples to rise to an occasion and do things that were impossible,

anybody would have thought. We're at that kind of a point now. And it gives me great courage because I know that somewhere in the long-term future, we'll look back on this period of history. And I'm not just saying this to spread sunshine. People will look back at this period and say, that was a great period of history. And we, you and I and everybody listening,

will have had a chance to make it great again. You know, it's interesting, as you said, you know, They believe whatever that system is that's moving this, behind this crisis, that they've already achieved, right? The crisis, they've already won. They're just in the mop-up phase. And it's almost as though they really had a lot of planning all the way up to the wind, but never really planned the mop-up phase, which may be their weakness. And perhaps it's in that sort of how do we maintain what we think we've achieved and hold on to it. I think they forgot, just as you said, the spirit of humanity.

and even probably more aggressively or powerfully so, the spirit of America. And I totally agree with you. I've said it on the show so many times. There was a moment where I'd been watching around the world. It was really getting starting to feel defeated because I was seeing a million people marching in London against the oppression, the masks and the lockdowns and the vaccines coming. And in Germany, million people, you know, Robert Kennedy Jr. was there.

As far as you could see, there was people. and France, you know, just stepping up, Italy, stepping up. And I was just thinking, where is the United States of America? We just so full of ourselves that we're just going to sleep through this entire thing. And then one morning I woke up in the middle of the night, actually, very super early in the morning. And I happened to watch CBS News and it came on and said at that point, it was a few couple months ago, 42% of America is vaccinated. And I had been under the impression we were like at 75% or 80%.

I know that England was already somewhere around 65, 70% at that point. All these nations that were marching. had already given in to this wave and I just thought holy cow we may not be marching in the streets but there is a rebellious spirit there's still that that blood that DNA in us that throws tea over the side of a ship and says no way not today not any time and it seems to be truly alive in us I mean there's more to do right I mean it's not just to now rebel it's to now stand up and take hold and start making a difference you know absolutely yeah yeah rebellions seldom are in fact I don't I can't think of any

rebellion that was ever really successful and I distinguish a rebellion from a revolution revolutions often work yeah but the difference is a rebellion is like and without preparation without organization without a purpose it's just when people stand up and say I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore yeah and they throw themselves against the machine gun nest and they always fail right but revolution like the American Revolution are fought by, well, the American Revolution was fought by 13 governments,

13 nations, we called them colonies, of course, but they had a judicial system, they had a legislative system, they had taxes, they had a militia, they had an armory, they had everything that could be used in the defense or the attack against an aggressor. We don't have that unless we rely on the states. Okay, let's look.

Let's work on our states, not because we want to go into battle, but because that's our last line of defense. So we have a lot going for us, and I want to emphasize that because it's easy to get really depressed about the state of affairs. We should take it seriously, I mean, deadly seriously, but the game ain't over yet. It's just begun. Well, and you asked the final question of Yuri Besmanov. What do we do? So let's take a look at what he said nearly 40 years ago, see if it's still relevant. today.

Okay, so what do we do? What is your recommendation to the American people? Well, the immediate thing that comes to my mind is, of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in the spirit of real patriotism, number one, number two, to explain them the real danger of socialist, communist, whatever, welfare state, big brother government. If people will fail to grasp the impending danger of that development, nothing ever can help United States.

You make kiss goodbye to your freedom, including freedoms to homosexuals, to prison inmate. All this freedom will vanish, evaporate in five seconds, including your precious lives. The second thing, the moment, at least part of the United States population, is convinced that the danger is real. They have to force their government. And I'm not talking about sending letters, signing petitions, and all this beautiful, noble activity. I'm talking about forcing United States government to stop aiding communism. Because there is no other problem more burning and urgent than to stop the Soviet military-industrial complex from destroying whatever is left of the free world. And it is very easy to do. No credits, no technology, no money.

no political or diplomatic recognition and of course no such ediases great deals to USSR. The Soviet people, 270 millions of Soviets, will be eternally thankful to you if you stop a bunch of murderers who sit now in Kremlin and whom President Reagan respectfully calls government. They do not govern anything, least of all such complexity as the Soviet economy. So basic, two very simple, maybe too simplistic answer. to simplistic answers or solutions but nevertheless they are the only solutions. Educate yourself, understand what's going on around you. You are not living at the time of peace. You are in a state of war and you have precious little time to save yourself.

You don't have much time, especially if you are talking about young generation. There's not much time left for convulsions to the beautiful disco music very soon it will go just just overnight if we are talking about capitalists or or wealthy businessman they I think they are selling the rope on which they will hang very soon if they don't stop if they cannot curb the unsettled desire for profit and if they keep on trading with the monster of the Soviet communism they are going to hang very soon and they will pray to be killed but unfortunately they will be sent to Alaska probably to manage industry of slaves. It's simplistic, I know it sounds unpleasant, I know Americans don't like to listen to things which are unpleasant.

But I have defected not to tell you the stories about such idiocy as microfilm James Bond type espionage. This is garbage. You don't need any espionage anymore. I have come to talk about survival. It's a question of survival of this system. You may ask me what is it in for me? Survival, obviously. Because unlike, as I said, I am now in your boat. If we sing together, we'll sing beautifully together.

There is no other place on this planet to defect to. There's no other place on this planet to defect to. I mean, he really lays out you've got to stop funding communism. And I just think part of me just wants to say that's just that's then that was so old and then I just remember the first thing the Biden administration does is shut down an oil pipeline here in the United States of America and allows and signs of deal allow you in Russia to open up a pipeline so whether it's grain or its fuel or whatever it is this does appear to be still going on my question to you I guess would be

as we sit here now nearly 40 years since you sat in that interview this interview is getting more attention than it ever did when you first made it is there anything that that he got wrong? Was there anything in that plan or what would you say now, you know, is there a different answer? What do we do now? Del, he didn't get anything wrong. He understood it from the inside out. He got it right and what can I say? Except now instead of aiding Russia, we've been aiding China in many, many ways in the same way. We build up our enemies and I come back to something I said before. It's not just that we want to or that they want to aid. communism they want to create forces that will destroy us so that when everything

collapses it won't be the communists to take over it would be that other group of people that are causing us to aid these other countries we call them the the deep state but it's more than that this is the super financial interests in the globe they want their word for it is a new world order it won't be communist it won't be capitalist it'll be collectivism that's what they want and they will use anything to destroy the present system that they can. And whether they can use Russia or use China or whatever, they will use it. They will use our own people. Our biggest threat, of course, is people who have American citizenship,

who have been brought through the educational indoctrination process, and they now are the enemies of our traditions and our heritage. They are the ones that are trying to destroy us, thinking that when they pull down this terrible capitalist system, that then we get to live in this utopia of socialism where everybody is equal. It's insane, but they believe it. They believe it to the core of their being. So as Yuri says, we're stuck with them.

So what do we do about it? We have to get the word out to that 15% that we're talking about. And then we have to mobilize that 15% to get out and do something, not just sit there and say, I wonder what's going to happen next. So that's the phase that we're in now, is trying to mobilize and organize and create a coalition that will bring about political change and bring about change in the school system

and the monetary system all across the board. It's not just about who you're going to vote for. It's not about which party you're going to vote for. It's not about who's going to get in the White House. It's though one man can do anything alone. We have to build this thing from the bottom up, county by county, city by city. That means we have to become organizers.

We have to be activists. And we can't just sit in front of our computers and send emails to each other and say, gee, this is really terrible, isn't it? Right. And I think about, you know, as he began his conversation about the education system, I've been saying we've got to pull our kids out of these school systems or build new school systems, you know, work with each other in communities, homeschooling or homeschooling co-ops, start getting values. He said, raising patriots that believe in the Republic once again and start recognizing that there's something so beautiful. we must hold on to here. Those are things that we can do, you know, on the simplest level. You don't have to go and run for office, though it would be great if open-minded thinking people, critically thinking people did start getting into the political system.

Everyone at home, our children especially, that is, you know, that is the soil with which we've got to plant seeds to, I think, win back the dream of America. You know, as you sit here, I mean, I'm just astounded to be in your presence and to imagine, you know, the longevity, and the stalwart nation with way in which you have sort of held this truth you've been writing books and doing interviews and you never gave up and from my perspective you know it must have felt so frustrating yet and for me you know I only met you a few years ago there's just this swell now I started with a couple hundred followers and immediately were able to move into millions now and I'm feeling this this momentum do you I hope have some sense of

satisfaction that that foundation you built that all that hard work may be paying off perfectly said Dell that's exactly where my satisfaction comes from I go to bed at night and a big smile in my face in spite of all the bad news because of what you just said I've been able to lay some foundation bricks those bricks are in place. And as we speak right now, we're putting a few more bricks on top of that. And as your video goes around to those millions of people, be some more bricks go in there. And I probably won't see the complete structure completed in my lifetime. But I go to bed with a smile in my face because I know that I am building, helping to build the foundation. And someday it will be

beautiful. And it's nice to know that I've had a role in playing that. You sure have. Where do people go that want to sort of follow the work that you're doing and the next Expos and the great speakers you're putting together as you sort of Drive this mission forward? Well, we have many websites, but I'll just stick with two of them. I think for anybody that wants to find out what we're doing What kind of mischief we're getting into. We have something called need to know dot news It's a free subscription Need to know dot news and they can sign up and we publish that three times a week. Okay, great And we pull in all the stories that we think have substance to them,

you know, that really means something. And I try my best to bring the essence of the story to a little summary paragraph up front. For people who are in a hurry, which is most of us, those that find the story particularly interesting, they can then go see the whole thing. So that's Need to Know.News. And then for those that want to really get into the area of doing something about it, the door to enter is called Red Pill University.com. And I won't say anymore except just go through the door and you'll find everything you need to know if you're interested in becoming a change agent

Well, Ed, it's been an absolute dream to get to sit here and have this conversation with you and I only want to thank you because there's no way That I'm in the position I'm in now and those of us that are seeing this movement growing and the excitement of which it's happening and the resistance that is starting to take place I don't believe believe we're here without the work that you have done so I know very kind of you thank you for that and it's a pleasure to be here in your wonderful studio and I know you are making a huge difference out there so I salute you for that salute you too you take care all right all right well I mean part of our program is to try and you know Ed has this great thing that he does just as he said in his website to sort of take the short version of it up front and then to get in more detail even in his book the creature of Jekyll Island

and does a really nice job of that. If you just read the headings, then you can go through and get a sense. You can go a little bit deeper and then even further than that. But it's important for those friends of us that are that we're trying to wake up and maybe can't handle a long interview with perhaps a world-changing interview like you've just watched. They need it shorter. And that's why we started our program of get vaccinated. Folks, it's time for you to get vaccinated.

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and tracing of our lives. We deserve to be free. There's no reason that government has to be involved in every part of our lives, certainly not our medical decisions, our religious decisions, our life decisions are ours. And so that's what we're fighting for. And if you think about the work that we've done this year, if you look at the incredible progress that we've had, this conversation that no one was having about vaccines when we started the high wire just a few years ago, now it's the number one conversation and we're winning it. The government's moving our direction. The judicial system is moving our direction. All of the population of not just the United States of America, but around the world is moving in our direction towards the light,

towards the truth, which is what's being provided here. So as you think about that, I want to remind you that this is the last day of the year that you can really donate to the high wire for 2021. So we're moving into 2022. I almost forgot that it was 21 right there. I didn't sign it enough times on the check, but 2021 is about to move into our rearview mirror as we go into 2022. So please, if you haven't already done it, why did you become a recurring donor, become a part of our mission, or if you still have to, you know, work on a tax return and maybe you need to donate a little bit more money, I think this would be a great opportunity to go ahead and help us with our mission, both to produce this show, but also to bring the legal pressure we're

bringing in courtrooms around the country. That's the high wires mission. I know that it's your your mission now. You have been dedicated. It's incredible what you've joined us in and what you're a part of as one of the high wire superheroes. This is what it's going to take. It's going to take all of us. I'm looking forward to the new year. I'm looking forward to walking side by side with you. I'll be out there meeting you in person, in discussions and talks will be giving all over the country. But every single Thursday, we will be here bringing you the truth. I want to thank you for all of your support this year. without you. Even if you're not donating, I know you're sharing these videos and you're waking people up to the truth that you're discovering here. That's how we do this. One person at a time,

one step at a time, together, arm and arm, brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, grandparents, children, we're in this together. Let's win this. I'll see you next year.