The Highwire with Del Bigtree - TIMELINE OF TYRANNY

Episode Date: January 23, 2023

Texans Rally For Freedom; More Incriminating Myocarditis Data; Statins to Blame for UK’s Excess Death?; Former W.H.O. Scientist Connects Lays Out the Timeline of Tyranny; ICAN Forces Europe’s “FDA” Hand on AstraZeneca’s Covid Jab; Functional Freedom At Anarchapulco!Guests: Michelle Evans, Jeff Berwick, Catherine Bonandin, Astrid Stuckelberger, PhDBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Wherever you are out there in the world, it's time to step out onto the high wire. I want to thank all of you for joining us around the world. We're an international show now being picked up in countries all around the world. And, you know, no matter where I travel, whether it's, I'm going to be in Mexico, actually, in just a few hours. And I'm all over the place in Florida. And everywhere I go, people keep asking me, you know, tell. what is it I can do. Now, I've said it before. I don't know what your specialty is. I don't know, you know, what your talents are, but I know that there is something for you to do on, you know,

on this issue, on this earth. We're all here for a reason. But one of the things that we should all be doing, that we can all do together is get together with the legislative groups that are trying to stop the bills, block the bills, stop the laws. And that is true in every country in the world where you show up, where you make your presence known, you let your legislators, your government officials know we are here, we are present, we are accounted for. And so if you keep watching, and a lot of times we broadcast these rallies from state capitals, if you're watching them from your house, it's not having the same effect as getting out in person and standing in front of these capitals and letting know who you are. I'm going to be at just one of those events

in this upcoming week next Wednesday here in Texas. Texans for Vaccine Choice is putting on this event. Well, I'm super excited to be speaking live at the Austin Capitol. I think we're on the South Steps, 1 p.m. upcoming Wednesdays. Hope to see you there if you live in the Texas area. But putting this all together is Texans for Vaccine Choice, and I'm joined right now by Michelle Evans from that group. Michelle, first of all, you know, I think a lot of people feel like, you know,

We're through the roughest part of this. We don't have a mandated COVID vaccine. We can all go back to sleep. So why even have this rally when the sun is shining and all seems good? Well, you touch on something really important, which is COVID. So most of the legislation that's been passed or has been filed so far focuses singularly on COVID. So we're not playing offense. We're not looking ahead to the next pandemic.

And we're also not applying this to all vaccines for all. Texans. Okay, so you're, now are you bringing legislation? Is this something that you're doing? Are you just defending and fighting the legislation that's already there? We do a mix of both. We have some really strong legislators who are willing to work with us in the background to get good legislation drafted, bringing up things from past sessions that were good. And then, of course, once everything starts moving, as bills progress through the process, making sure that we have people at committee hearings, that we've got people in the gallery, we've got people making phone calls, emails, what have you, so they can keep having their voices heard.

Now, I've said it before. I've been one of the reasons I moved to Texas is you guys have done such a great job in activism. And what I mean is I've gone before the Senate Health Committee here and spoken, and I have done that all over the country here in Texas. And it could be the culture of Texas. There is at least a listening going on. There was really good questions coming even from those that seem opposed, but we're really starting to ask questions about that.

How much does that have to do with your interaction and groups like Texas for Vaccine Choice? How, you know, have you seen a shift through the years as you've been involved in this movement? Yeah, when we started in 2015, we were literally, just mad moms and minivans. That was what we were known as across the Capitol. But the fact that we kept showing up and we kept making calls and we kept sending mass emails made us known as an effective organization and a group of moms that really held legislators accountable for what they say in public versus what they vote for on the floor. So we were a formidable organization from almost the get-go and I think that that has had such an impact across party lines to and we and we bring

forth these stories stories of vaccine injury stories of people who are fired for not taking the jab and that really really that personal touch impacts these legislators more than we could ever know and there's so many news stories you know when we look at this COVID vaccine and I know you and I know And those of us that have been involved in this conversation, I'm not going to let them just package this up as a one-off problem with COVID vaccine. The rest of the vaccines are okay. But let me ask you, when it comes this COVID vaccine, so much of our show today is going to be about what a disaster it is

and how even mainstream media is now having difficulty avoiding the elephants in the room, like the thing doesn't work at all to stop. This disease isn't keeping people out of hospitals, maybe putting them in hospitals. Under these circumstances, do you feel like a door has been, opened into maybe reaching deeper into some of the things that we've been working at for years. Do you think it's going to make legislators a little bit more malleable? Absolutely. I relay the story all the time when my daughter was vaccine injured back in 2012.

All I had to look to was Jenny McCarthy. And there wasn't a single legislator who was stepping out of the narrative. There wasn't, there weren't many doctors who were brave enough to go public. But we've had an awakening since COVID because the public health measures were so extreme, people have had no choice but to start to question the entire system. And that's been sort of a silver lining. It's upsetting. You never want to see people go through this like sea change because it is rough. But at the very least, people are starting to understand. Now when you look at Texas, I think a lot of eyes are on Texas. Do you feel a pressure on Texas? I mean, one of the things here is it's not like it's a safe place. They are trying to change the politics here.

They're trying to move in. I've always said it, you know, California, you know, they say as California goes, so goes the country. But really, they want Texas. They've got the biggest, you know, Democrat, liberal states in New York and California. If they can get, you know, one of the largest conservative states to switch over. And I'm not meaning to make this political, but clearly there is a lot of pressure if they can swing Texas. I've said it before. If Texas falls, so goes the world. Do you feel that pressure as you're looking to the legislation and the work that you guys are doing? Yes, and sort of our theme of this session this year is Texas take the lead. We've seen in so many ways Florida has stayed strong and weathered the storm a lot better than we have. We're still under

emergency orders from the governor under COVID emergency orders. That hasn't changed in almost three years. We have become soft enough on this issue and others that we could easily be overtaken and have things Californized, I guess, is the only way to put it. I hate to do that, but I hear from people week over week that say we came from California back in 2016, 2017 after SB 277 over there, and they thought that they were safe. And lo and behold, it's become a lot less free. Look, I've talked to people from Romania and the Soviet Union that said that we came to America because we thought it was safe. And now you guys basically have KGB tracking people. You want to track us.

You want to not allow us in restaurants. What is happening to you? So it's so important. And I'm glad the work that you guys are doing is amazing. I can't wait to see you on Wednesday. You really are leaders. You've been at this. I think this is going to be a very good year for a lot of states.

if the people show up. I mean, I think the thing is, is, you know, I've said it. You know, a lot of people say, wow, Del, it's amazing what you're doing. But I'm standing on a stage all by myself talking to an open field of, you know, bunny rabbits and squirrels.

Nothing in this world is changing. It really makes a difference, doesn't it? When the crowds turn out for these events. Yeah. You talked about the importance of community, and this is one of our, you know, our big events to show people. that there is strength in numbers.

Fantastic. So everybody, if you're in Texas, definitely get out, check out. Texas, take the lead Wednesday, January 25th, 2023 at 1 p.m. I'm going to be there. I hope that you're there because I know I'm a busy person. I'm in about three or four different states this week, only to get back there. So I hope that you will take the time. Michelle, thank you for all the incredible work you're doing. Thanks for joining us today. Thank you, Del, so much.

Excellent. Now, for everyone out there, I was just thinking right before we started this, show. There's really no place if you haven't found your Texans for Vaccine's Choice, whether you're in Iowa or Ohio or Nebraska or Florida, or wherever it is, we're going to go ahead and try and build something on our website where that list exists for you. So I'm going to say this right now to all of you groups, watching the Highwire all across the country. If you want to be on our list of freedom fighters, then all you have to do is email us, info at thehighwire.com. and just put in the subject freedom group, and we will reach out to you.

We're going to make sure we vet everybody, by the way, so that only, you know, groups that truly are bringing the right messages will be listed, but we want to help. That's one of the things we just decided we're going to do right now. So that will be on Icandecide.org's website very soon. But if you're in one of those groups, do us a favor, reach out, give us all your contact info so that we can start making that list for everybody around the country to make this a lot easier.

But do your due diligence. Don't just wait for ICAN to set it up for you. Reach out to those groups that are local. Get out. Be present. It makes a serious difference. And speaking of a serious difference, man, this show is going to be talking about it. There is still some scary stuff out there. I'm going to be talking to Astrid Stucklberger from the WHO about, you know, this cabal that seems to be happening between the UN and WHO and these powers that be. What is she seeing in that? But on the flip side, mainstream media cannot seem to get out of the way of this giant snowball

called Truth that is bowling everybody over. And to get to that, it's time for it, the Jackson Report. All right, Jeffrey Jackson, what do you have for us this week? Well, Adele, we're going to tackle something we've tackled on this show a lot, which is myocarditis. And we're going to break this into a couple segments here. But let's start off talking. And hopefully this will be one of the last times we have to talk about this guy, Dr. Tony Fauci. There's a clip that resurfaced from 2017 about Fauci talking about the smallpox

vaccine. So to set up this clip before we watch this, apparently, according to him, he was talking to vice president at the time, Dick Cheney, who was vice president under George W. Bush. Okay. And they were talking about possibly inoculating the whole of the United States against smallpox, you know, in the event of a terrorism attack, bioterrorism attack or something like that. And this is what Tony Fauci had to say in 2017. during this interview about that meeting with Dick Cheney. Take a listen. Since smallpox, as effective a vaccine as it is, has some rare but nonetheless potentially very serious toxic side effects. If you're immunosuppressed, it could be deadly.

If you're one of those people who have the strange myocarditis associated with it. So if you're in the middle of an outbreak of smallpox and you want to vaccinate people, like you're in go back multiple decades and you're in Africa, the risk of the toxicity is far less than the risk of the devastating effect of the disease. So even though we accepted the toxicities of the smallpox vaccine, back then, it was because there was active smallpox out there. We would have some time to vaccinate people. If you all of a sudden vaccinated the whole country again, I think the weight of the waiting, getting a stockpile is infinitely better than just feeling better about vaccinating everybody. We decided that

we would not globally vaccinate the entire country. And by the way, the country would not have accepted being vaccinated. So we knew that. I mean, it was sort of like a fail safe. So this idea about kind of saying everybody should take it, it didn't make any sense. There's so much to it. I know you're about to make a point about the myocarditis, but there's so many things he reveals there that are quite disturbing. First of all, he talks about these very, very, toxic side effects, these very, you know, that exists, obviously, for some people. He makes the point that if you were, you know, immunocompromise, this vaccine could be deadly. And I think about, like, the COVID vaccine, they avoided having anyone immunocompromised in any of the trials prior to

releasing this to the people. It was part of the argument I made, you know, over the Neil deGrasse Tyson statements last week. I mean, if you know vaccines can have these types of side effects, then shouldn't you be testing for it before you do exactly what you said you wouldn't do, which is release it to the entire world. And then lastly, the similarities of this problem we now have, the myocarditis with that vaccine. And it just makes me think how many times we hear one in a million, vaccine ginger, one in a million. Why would the smallpox vaccine be toxic and other vaccines not toxic? Why would that vaccine cause myocarditis and others?

All you are is just taking a little bit of the virus and killing it or doing, you know, grabbing the RNA from it and injecting your cells. So, I mean, he reveals this, that they've been lying all along about the safety. To me, of all vaccines, why would one be worse than another? They've been telling us they're all the same. They're all great. Anyway, those are the things that sort of jumped out at me. But I know you have a more distinct point to make here. Yeah. And also, too, on that point, he says the country wouldn't have accepted it. Well, it seems like he went against all of the, everything he said in that interview, because moving into COVID, the country was arguably the most vaccine hesitant, in their words, as it's

ever been questioning the vaccine safety of the childhood schedule, but also moving with a vaccine with myocarditis risks, you know, and as you said, not testing the immunocompromised, all issues here, but they went ahead and did it anyway. So now let's fast forward to current day, Dr. Fauci. Let's listen to him on an interview, talk about this rare myocarditis risk. Listen to this. In a very, very rare case, some of the MRI vaccines can cause as self-limiting, almost invariably benign inflammatory response in the heart, which generally resolves in a very short period of time. It is very, very rare. When you compare that with the negative effects on the heart by myocarditis or pericarditis, which is inflammation of either the heart muscle or the covering of the heart,

and heart failure and heart medical problems, overwhelmingly COVID itself causes that in a dramatically higher rate than the relatively benign mild myocarditis that you might have with a vaccine, which is very, very rare. Did he make sure to mention that it's rare? I mean, what I want to say about this is, first of all, folks, if you ask questions, how do you know we're winning? You know you're winning when they have to go on a propaganda campaign in a defensive position. Clearly now, having athletes drop on the field, Monday night football, all of this is starting

to get to be a problem, the soccer players, all the teenagers. Now he's having to go out and spin. This is what we call the spin, right, that's taking place. So I think it's a good sign that one of the world's greatest liars is having to get out on television and start to spin a lie around this whole thing. Right. Correct. What you're seeing is a government bureaucrat, career government bureaucrat, doing damage control for a vaccine. Just as a side note, looking at the media, they would much rather not mention any of these things, never to have a conversation about it. So like you said, if they have to approach the topic, we're winning on this. This subject is coming to the forefront in a big way. And so let's break apart one of the main pieces of his argument there. He says, well, just catching COVID has such more longer term serious issues for the heart. That's actually not true according to the science. So we have a large study out of Israel now. Over 200,000 patients in this study and people. The incidences of myocarditis and pericarditis in post-COVID-19 unvaccinated patients, a large population-based study. So again, nearly 200,000 adults. And they found this. They write, post-COVID-19 infection was not.

associated with either mildcarditis or pericarditis. We did not observe an increased incidence of neither paracarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients, recover him from COVID-19 infection. So there is evidence right there. There's studies that he conveniently sets aside and says, it's rare for the vaccine to cause this, but if you get COVID, you're going to probably get this anyway because the effects on the heart are so bad. And we have another study here out of Boston, Boston Children's Hospital. And this is titled Circulating Spike Protein, Detected in Post-Covine MRNA Vaccine Myocrititis. They collected blood from 16 adolescents, young adults hospitalized in Boston Children's Hospital, Massachusetts General, that came to the hospital with chest pains, elevated

cardiac troponin levels. Those are the biomarkers they look for for heart damage after their COVID shot. And they compared those to kids who had received a COVID shot, but obviously never had chest pains, never ended up in the hospital, just received their COVID-19 shot. And this is what the researchers wrote. They wrote, quote, a notable finding was that markedly elevated levels of full-length spike protein unbound by antibodies were detected in the plasma of individuals with post-vaccine myocarditis, whereas no free spike was detected in asymptomatic vaccinated control subjects. Asymptomatic meaning they didn't come in with chest pain. They weren't in the hospital with elevated troponin levels. They just got the shot. They're going about their lives. And the kids with

myocarditis have this full-length spike protein floating around in their blood plasma, a lot of it, too. Well, I mean, and it seems to me as we look at this, first of all, how would it be possible? Like what Fauci is saying, just right at, if you just take a layman's perspective, without even looking at the studies, you made a vaccine that takes the spike protein and injects it and message to yourselves to start producing tons of the spike protein. We now know, unequivocally, the spike protein is the toxic part of the virus, the one causing myocarditis and periocarditis. So why would it be that a natural delivery system breathing

would have more effect on the heart that injecting it, especially, especially when multiple times they've bragged that they are creating more spike protein and the antibodies inside the body from vaccination, that that was one of the selling points. It actually gives you more than the virus itself. So how is it that having more spike protein floating throughout your body delivered by the vaccine into your bloodstream would have less effect on the heart than breathing it in at a lower level?

Or, I mean, it doesn't, the concept just doesn't even make any sense. Totally agreed. And so we have this vacuum right now where, you know, independent researchers, so to speak, are putting out these studies, you know, kids at Mass General Hospital here. We have Israeli patients here. So you have this vacuum that's being, they suggested these studies, there's signals, we're findings that, you know, suggest further findings. But what is the regulatory agency saying the FDA, the CDC in the United States? In a perfect world, they would come out and say something. They would say, we have the studies,

here's the science. You don't need to do these independent research. We've done it. We've taken care of it. This is a letter that the FDA gave to Pfizer in 2021, in August of 2021. talking about myocarditis. They tell Pfizer this about myocarditis. They say, we have determined, this is the FDA, we have determined that an analysis of spontaneous postmarketing adverse events, postmarking, that's where we are now, the fourth phase of the trial that's tested on people, basically, postmarking adverse events reported under Section 505K1 of the FDCA, will not be sufficient to assess known serious risks of myocarditis and parricarditis and identify an unexpected serious risk of subclinical myocarditis. That's a big deal. It goes on to say, furthermore, the pharmacolidilance system that FDA is required to maintain under

Section 505K3 of the FDCA is not sufficient to assess these serious risk. Therefore, based on appropriate scientific data, we have determined that you are required to conduct the following studies. So let me break the down for you. They're saying, we don't have this safety monitoring system to actually answer these questions. Our CDC safety monitoring system, all of these robust systems we hear about with these experts monitoring them in real time, they're not good enough to detect this. Clearly, we don't have the type of safety monitoring system for Tony Fauci to have made the statement he just made on national television, which is we know that the vaccine is causing less, a very mild form of my arc card. FDA say we know nothing like that. We have no answers to this.

We're looking at various systems. We're looking at all these systems and we don't have enough information. I mean, it's outrageous. And so why are they saying that? Because did Pfizer put a report in and say, here's our experimental vaccine. And by the way, we did the test internally and it does not cause marociditis. Rest assured you can give it to the whole population. Right. They didn't do that. In fact, they didn't do that at all. And the FDA is saying, since you didn't do that, we're going to give you a timeline and you have to complete these studies. And when is that timeline? Was it last year? Was it tomorrow? No, let's go back to that form that Pfizer received from the FDA. Study C-459109 entitled a non-interventional post-approval safety study of the Pfizer-Biointech COVID-19

MRNA vaccine in the United States to evaluate the occurrence of myocarditis, periciditis, following administration of Co-Minardi. And if you look at the bottom line, final report submission, October 31st, 2025. So you have five years after you put that vaccine out to maybe approach. this topic of myocarditis and to maybe get to the bottom of this, send it to us at the FDA so we can actually back up our quotes in the media here about not causing myocarditis. The quotes we made three years ago when everyone was dying and now it's too late. I mean, the whole thing, and by the way, I'm so tired of this. I mean, how long when we put up with this level of science? This is literally like going like Jeffrey Dahmer and saying, hey, Jeffrey,

you know, we've got like 15 or 16 bodies and a lot of evidence seems to point to the fact that you killed these boys. And so what we would like you to do is a study of all the evidence that you have and that we have. We want you to compile it all and get back to us and let us know if you are actually the culprit in the cases of these boys dying. I mean, you are literally going to the manufacturer that will continue. And by the way, they're probably like going, well, let me make sure. Can I still date while I'm doing this investigation? Oh yeah, Jeffrey. You go ahead and date. Give that vaccine to everyone you want. And then in three years or four years now when you finally figured all you let us know and and we'll take your word for it i mean how stupid

are we and this is why it's so important for doctors and independent researchers to speak up keep doing your work keep putting this information out there because you have till 2025 to fill this vacuum with unequivocal evidence which is you know arguably it's already out there that this shot is increasing greatly the myocarditis risks and especially young adults young boys young men So another conversation. What are the odds that a company that is going to have made probably at that point, $100 billion off this product that they will come out and tell us, oh, by the way, yeah, we are responsible for those millions of heart attacks around the world?

What are the odds that that's going to happen? I'd say about 0.0% knowing for the track record that we've reported on in the past with these agencies and these companies. And so another example of something that, you know, we've reported on for over a year is excess deaths. This is something that was a conspiracy theory in the media. Then they went silent. They didn't talk about it. Now they're having to confront it, just like the myocarditis issue. So this is a good step in the public awareness of this.

And this is in the BBC, big paper in the UK, excess deaths in 2022 among worst in 50 years. That's a huge headline. And so that is coming from the UK's technical report. This is one of the lead authors on there is Professor Chris Whitties, the chief medical officer in the UK, technical report on the COVID-19 pandemic in the UK. And they actually approach excess deaths in there, and they say this about it. There is little doubt that delays in presentation, reductions in secondary prevention, such as statins and hypertensives, postponement of elective and semi-elective care and screening

will have led to later and more severe presentation of non-COVID illness, both during and after the first three waves. And then it goes to this. The combined effect of this will likely lead to a prolonged period of non-COVID excess mortality and morbidity after the worst period of the pandemic is over. So hold on a second. The chief medical officer of the UK is saying because there's been a lack of statins being given to people, these anti-cholesterol cholesterol lowering drugs, because people aren't getting enough of these pills, that's why excess deaths are the highest they've been in 50 years.

You know what's amazing about this too, and I want to point this out, is it's called excess mortality in general, right? And this guy, they didn't go and say, well, there was a drop in cancer drugs or a drop in diabetes investigations or perhaps, you know, taking the drugs they needed. They specifically look at all cause mortality. We just said, hey, there's a lot of people dying and they go out of the way to say it's because they're not getting enough statins, meaning, wait a minute, we didn't say anything about heart attacks, but you're concerned about heart attacks. That's a little weird. What data are you looking at? It makes you understand they know exactly what the problem is, right? Yeah. Yeah, it seems like they're looking at data sets that may not

be public. And so we have two professors that have, you know, long been great independent researchers on several topics, Carl Hennigan and Tom Jefferson. And they both wrote a substack. And the title is, is everyone dying from statin starvation? This was in response to this UK technical report and they came to the conclusion that not really so let's look at a chart now this chart is the prescribing trends for lipid regulating drug statins across all general practitioners practices in NHS England over the last five years and what can you see on this chart del starting in january 2018 all the way to 2022 the prescribing has not went down do you see any huge gaps when the when the pandemic started in fact if you look it looks like it's going up to me uh gradually across across the

entire chart. So that is, you know, categorically untrue that statement that people are not just not getting their statins. There's no break in prescribing in the statins. So let's go to the solution. So now, you know, we've seen the solution so many times and it's no different here. More medication. So you have this artificial idea that there's a lack of statins. So NHS has come forward and cleared the guidelines for more people to take statins. So check this headline out. Now anyone over 18 can get statins. Huge shakeup of NHS drug guidelines could see doctors give millions more Brits, the cheap cholesterol-busting drugs.

Now all you have to do if you're 18 or over is walk into your doctor and ask for them. What prescription medication can you walk into your doctor and say, hey, doc, write this prescription now. It didn't work with Ivermectin. In fact, with Ivermectin during the pandemic, if you had a prescription, the pharmacist wouldn't even fill it for you. And there's lawsuits going on with it. that. Opioids can't do it with those either. Asma medication, can't do it with those, even though

you can't breathe. The doctor has to do a test write-ups on you and work-ups on your blood. It's not happening. But with these drugs, come in, we'll give them out like candy for basically a fake report from the UK technical report that has false information in it. I wonder, do you think there's any part of this that behind the scenes are like, yeah, we got this rise in teenagers dying of heart attacks? Maybe if they started taking statins, we can't really come out and say that, but let's just make it available like altoids and maybe, you know, teenagers will rush in and think that they have high cholesterol issues. I mean, it's so we do know that government's toolkit is very limited. In fact, it's limited to essentially

drugs that are approved. So if that conversation was happening and they said, what do we have that could combat this, that would be the main tool, the one tool, the hammer that continually bangs that nail down would be the drug, you know, increase in describing drugs. So we have Dr. Assim Mahaltra. He's been on our show before. He's a top cardiologist in the UK. And he had something to say about this. The BBC brought him on to talk about this NHS guideline change for statin drugs and check out what happened. One of the reasons I think this has come into the news just now is obviously there's been a big concern recently around excess deaths. Now the British Heart Foundation have said certainly during

the pandemic or since the pandemic, there's been 30,000 excess deaths. specifically due to coronary artery disease. That's my area of expertise. And they're trying to figure out what's causing it. Analysis I've done, even Carl Hennigan, the director of Central and Space Medicine in Oxford, suggests that statin pills prescription hasn't reduced since the pandemic. So it's unlikely to be a cause.

But what is almost certainly, and if you allow me to say this, Lequea, what my own research has found is that the COVID-MRNA vaccines do carry a cardiovascular risk. And I've actually called for the suspension of this pending an inquiries. because there's a lot of uncertainty at the moment about what's causing the excess deaths. Some of it will be ambulance delays. My own father, it was reported on BBC News in late 2021. I was the first to actually highlight the ambulance delays because my own father suffered a cardiac arrest at home,

and the ambulance took 30 minutes. And when his post-mortem came out, he had very severe coronary disease, which is unexplainable. I then published in a peer-review journal. They accepted my findings that the likely cause of his death was two doses of the Pfizer-MRNA vaccine. he had six months earlier. So what you're saying in terms of the MRNA link to cardio vascular risk, is that that is a proven, it's been proven medically, has it, scientifically? Yeah, yes, Lequestor.

So in medicine, you know, in any research that we do, it's very difficult to always be absolutely conclusive. So we go on likelihoods. And there are lots of data now. The original trials of Pfizer and Moderna with MRI vaccine showed, and I just want to put this in absolute terms, because we don't want to scare people unnecessarily. but the absolute risk of serious adverse events was at least one in 800.

Okay. And a lot of those are cardiovascular. And then you were more likely in those trials to suffer a serious adverse event than to be hospitalized in COVID early on. We should be reassured that Omicron and what's circulating is really no worse than the flu. And this is really time to pause the vaccine roll out and to really investigate this problem. Wow, BBC. It's, I mean, it's gone mainstream now. I keep saying it. The genie's out of the bottle, man. There is no, I don't know what Fauci thinks he's doing out there. He should have retired. This is going to get to be a massive, massive disaster now. We called it, right, Jeffrey? We've been saying from the beginning, in the end, this will go down as one of the great science catastrophes of all times.

Absolutely. In that interview, that full-length interview, has been viewed by 20.2 million people the last time I checked. You go, a seam. Boom! That is on Twitter. The clip is on Twitter. It's about almost an eight minute long clip. And just to put that in perspective, in 2022, some of the top views the BBC ever had was the Queen's funeral. That was 25 million people. We had the World Cup, which was the World Cup finals, 21.3 million people. So he's at a little over 20 million right now. He's approaching some of the top viewing. So as the mainstream media has been dying, this slow death, you know, entire departments being exited. being fired because they can't make budget. CNN Plus just dropping. You have the BBC who kind of just accidentally fell into one of their top viewing shows of almost the last two years. And you get an idea of maybe the BBC can switch their reporting if they really wanted

to viewership, if they really wanted to increase their market share. There's an idea. And avoid having, I mean, just last week, we had all those images of people sticking like all over the windows and doors of the, the, the, the, the, of BBC there in England, you know, images and articles about people dying suddenly. So, I mean, it's, it's clearly, and this is what we've talked about, right? The force of the people, the demand of the people, and the conversation has gotten to a point where they are having to have these conversations now in media.

It's really incredible. Yeah, and the people are hungry for this information, and it's a, you know, it's a testament to how our viewership has grown covering all this information even before. COVID with the vaccines, this is the topic people want to know about. And so one of the big things that also came out, another, you know, in my opinion, a forced topic that has come out was the FDA and the CDC has admitted that they found a risk, a possible risk of strokes after the new booster vaccine in people 65 or older. And here's the headline for that.

So it was just a couple days ago. CDC, FDA, see possible link between Pfizer's bivalent shot and strokes. This was the updated booster with both the Omicron and the Wuhan strain in it. And it is for people over 65. So remember, those are the people I've had the most boosters next to the immunocompromise people. So these are the people at the top of the list of, I don't know, five, I think. I'm losing track boosters. We're five total shots at this point.

And they found the risk in a 21-day window after the vaccination. So, you know, immediately after the shot. Now, the FDA came out and the CDC came out and said they never released the data fully. So you never got the full data set. You know, they said, we want to rebuild trust. They have an integrity problem clearly. They could have released the full data set so people could look at those themselves. They did not do that.

They've now come out and said, you know, our bad, no big deal, nothing to see here. We re-analyze the data and there's no risk, you know, carry on as you were. But on January 26th, the VIRPAC committee, that's the Independence Committee at the FDA is going to talk about this data. So there's probably me a lot of eyes on that. But remember here, the Cleveland Clinic did a study of their health care workers. And this was the study here just on that note as well. effectiveness of the coronavirus disease 2019 COVID-19 bi-valent vaccine. This was over 50,000 people, and they found this, quote, risk of COVID-19 increased with time since the most recent prior COVID-19 episode

and with the number of vaccine doses previously received. So the more doses you get, according to Cleveland clinic study, the more risk you're going to have. So there does seem to be some type of issue with this. Obviously, it's going to be up to the independent scientists because the CDC and the FDA is just not releasing that raw data for the rest of the public to see, which has always been a huge problem. And it's, I mean, this is a huge conversation now because now benefits and risk, reward ratio, you have a vaccine that is now really being reported to not only not stop transmission. It seems to be increasing your risk of catching and transmitting the virus. So what is the point? And yet here in America, especially, we've said it over and over again, they're doubling down,

tripling down, sending Fauci out on a propaganda campaign. But what an amazing investment. there, Jeffrey. I mean, you're catching them out in multiple places there, just straight up lying to the people on television, yet those same television news agencies that are spreading that misinformation are trying to figure out ways to censor us and continue to censor those that have been bringing the truth from the beginning. It's not working. I mean, you mentioned that last week that, you know, we are, we seem to be immune to cancellation, right? Cancel proof. What did you call it? uncancellable uncancellable they will lose this conversation because they are there's open source investigation going on now

and the media is no longer as tightly control as it used to be there's people waking up we have platforms that are allowing you know open debate and free speech like Twitter and others hopefully will follow we have rumble that they will lose this conversation because the data is out there

and the only way they can do this is put all of those people that are talking about this under this misinformation hood and try to censor harder. That's the only thing they can do, and that's what we're seeing. So keep sharing all of these videos out there. Keep putting this information out because this is the lifeline that people need to hear. Yeah, and this is what's driving mainstream media to have to deal with it.

So folks, you're a part of this, right? It's why this whole informed consent action network. We always saw it as a network, knowing that a network has made up of the people that are viewing as much of the people that are making the news. And especially in this time of censorship, it's your sharing these videos. And remember, I know we do a very long show here. week, but we're just accumulating all the data. And then within days, you will see all of these segments cut up in the smaller pieces. So if that's what you're interested in sharing, you can just

share those pieces. So many people sharing the Jackson Report specifically. You're doing a brilliant work, Jeffrey. Thank you for this incredible investigation you've done here today. You're welcome, Del. And thanks so much. All right, cool. See you next week. Well, I mean, as we've said, there's so many things that we're doing that, and luckily, more and more, you know, other news agencies out there and other bloggers and things are picking up the lead and getting on to this conversation. But what makes us a little bit different is when you are supporting us, when your members are a part of the group that donates to make this show happen, not only do you get to hear the news, then we go and fight for you to stop what's actually taking place or to reveal what's going on

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Remember when we were told that this vaccine stays located in the arm and that's it? And we've talked about, you know, with Pfizer and Moderna, which is what we're using here in America, we're not using AstraZeneca. We know that that fatty lipid that is wrapped around the mRNA technology was designed to cross the blood brain barrier and get into the brain for chemotherapy drugs. So they literally took a component that's designed to get outside of the muscle or where it's being injected and get to the brain. And they're saying, it'll never deliver this stuff to your brain or other important things. You wouldn't want to have that happen. Well, when we brought this request against MHRA, this is what we found out.

Here are the details. The study documents further revealed that in early 2021, AstraZeneca was forced to amend the data, a sheet. They had to change it for the vaccine after concluding that there may have been a causal association between the vaccine and serious hypersensitivity, including anaphylaxis, which can what, it can kill you. We went on to discover a final shocking revelation in the documents was the heavily redacted discussion of two individuals who developed serious immune, mediated, neurological demyelanating conditions following vaccination, although it states there was no evidence suggesting a causal between the vaccine and these events, the UK's clinical overview conceded that vaccinations could be

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We're making it easy to 72022 and send tax deductible donation today. Just the word donate to 72022. You'll get that in your text box. All right. Well, you know, we get blessed by so many, you know, great speakers and doctors and technicians. And every once in a while a scientist. In some cases, I would say a whistleblower. case a WHO whistleblower, some of those actually working with the WHO. We spoke to her over a year

ago. She was making the rounds and this is what that looked like at that time. The pandemic is organized internationally in a systemic way. WHO, what I see now is that don't communicate. They are dictating a will of not communicating. It is clear that Ted Ross and his team are lying, they're not doing science, and who can we to stop him. It's very shocking is that all the media's in the world say the same thing, the same words in the newspapers and they are paying the media for producing what they want. Where does this money come from other than our taxes? So we are actually financing the vaccine campaign and the death of people. You see how

unethical this is? The task force and the scientists that are built to lead this pseudopandemic are actually helping the rhetoric of the press, the way the press wants, the way the government one. And we don't have a debate. We have censorship. Censorship is the first sign of a dictatorship. They censor doctors, they censor treatments that work. They go to pharmacies and they take the whole stock of aeromectin that works really well.

They go and stop scientific people from doing good data collection saying it is not valid. And they put their own data that's completely in conflict of interest. So WHO with the media, the main media, they have very well analyzed a system and they're head of the International Telecommunication Agency. So you can put all this together and they have the whole system in their hands. We have to see that science is in a very difficult place. It is corrupt, conflict of interest. the definitions have changed.

People speaking and having the microphone are those who they want them to speak. So the news you get has absolutely no debate. They are trying to lock down the liberties of people. The freedom of people is really disturbing them. They want to annihilate any thinking, any emotion and cognition. So I'm just calling people to wake up

and take back your help. believe in the government they are creating a perpetual pandemic. All right, she's the former member of the research and ethics review committee at the WHO and is my honor and pleasure to be joined by Astrid Stucklberger right now. Here in Texas, I mean we've been doing this by Zoom internationally, so it's so great to have you here. For my audience that, I mean, we have a, you know, our audience is so much bigger than when I last spoke with you because of everything we've been through. A lot of people waking up to the world may not be moving the way that I thought it was. So to be clear, when you were working at the WHO in this sort of ethics review committee, what was it you were doing

there? Well, the ethics research committee was not under contract, it's a volunteer, but it is to be an independent expert to review the researchers that WHA receives international and to validate that they are compliant with all the ethical framework and this is about 10 to 20 pages you have to fill in. So I was part of the committee with other people from WHO. Okay. Now specific to the world that we're in now, pandemic, and what was your work and, you know, with WHO and your understanding there that's sort of specific to what took place? Yeah, following this ethics research committee, I got known and also the University of Geneva, Faculty of Medicine, where I was doing, heading research. and training in the Master of Public Health,

where they asked me, because of this experience and many other experience with WHO, to take the leadership for implementing a course with WHO on emergency management, pandemic management, and the implementation of international health regulation. So the idea of emergencies and management being widespread, continental, maybe even worldwide emergency management, management and you were part of sort of structuring how we would educate on that.

And did you think while you were doing that that there was anything nerve-wracking about the WHO considering this or did you feel like this is really important, good work at the time? At the time, when you read this IHR International Health Regulation in 2005, it's fantastic. You have a feeling that there is a soft governance of the world to protect citizen. not only an infection, but a chemical, radio nuclear, crossing your border and coming to your home. So it looked very good, or from farm to table, that an infection from peanut butter, you know, you remember the king's pink butter salmonella, that we would take care of it at the

border, containment, where it starts, at the border. So it looked very nice. And training, you know, country, member states, epidemiologists from... or WHO member states for three years to put up a course, to teach them the public health dimension. And the most important that they make exercise so they can adapt it to their country. It's full sovereignty. That looked perfect in the making. And so when we think about IHR, this is something essentially that the whole world has signed on to, right?

Like they've agreed that in an emergency, you guys are in charge and you just sort of basically will do what you. you say? 194 member states signed. No, the IHR has been adopted through the WHO Constitution, it turns up. It has not even been signed. But they all were agreed. So all basically on the, yeah, I'm in, and that's all it took. Yeah.

And that is the trick that is going on also now. But to say, it is a binding law that they agree that all those articles, it's like a booklet of law. All those articles, there is a compliance that everybody accepts. to treat travelers with ethics, to leave them a consent, to not put any restriction on travel and trade. That was one of the aim. It was to protect business, commercial, airlines, people, the right of the traveler.

I was in charge of the human rights on that. And it's not happening now, but it is a beautiful booklet for that. If people want to see it. And what is interesting is that, that a lawyer can use that booklet to you know attack the government because basically I was the expert for a lawsuit and I just said okay international health regulation says this your country is doing the opposite so this is totally unjustified to put people in lockdown airplane keep them on the floor and

because the international health regulation is precisely to protect protect the citizen and to protect trade and travel. So where has it gone wrong? Because that's not the impression that I get now, right? Are we to, I mean, it really seems, so you thought this was, you know, the work you were doing was so that we could all sort of have a global kumbaya moment or like, we're all going to get along. We'll share information. There's an outbreak. There's an issue.

This way we can all come together and work better together. All so that we'd be free to move about. to move about and you know because we're protected we're safe to have our lives when did you start realizing that this thing was sort of being turned on its head or was different than what you had signed up for well already so there was a problem because i was teaching that in the summer school on global health and human rights and a guy named bruce plodkin came up to me he was one of the legal advisor of WHO in the course we set up for three years. And he invited me to lunch at WHO and told me, you cannot teach this. You cannot, you have to stop teaching this at the university.

And I said, no, why this, everybody should train, everybody should be trained to know how to manage an emergency, to see the diagnosis, why it is this, why it is not. So I saw there, that's something strange. They stopped all the training. We were supposed to keep on training and train the trainer and it was very successful and suddenly Japan did not fund you we had the contract it did not work that was the first part but then on the ground I happened to have been in an international conference in South Korea end of January invited with some former presidents and some you know noble prizes and they were all talking of the new world and how the world is going to be great and suddenly they

were talking of this virus in China and And at the conference gate, they started to have thermic scanners. And I said, this is strange. Okay, it's Korea, it's normal. If it comes over the border, it's international health regulation. It's normal that takes security measures. But when I left and I traveled back through Frankfurt. And I remember stepping out of the airplane and hearing the same voice saying,

there is the pandemic, there is a virus, the same fear monger. And there I said there is something wrong. But what is wrong? You know, we cannot see a virus is invisible. So we need to take time. That's what we have been teaching. Agent characterization, analysis, little by little, like a crime scene, you know. So I saw there's something wrong. And then when I arrived, everybody was fearful. And then they started this test. And we never taught to do a diagnosis with the technology that has not been validated by the doctor. and is unknown. Right. So you're talking about like PCR testing and things like that, like tests that are not accurate. Guy, you know, Mullahs who created it said, don't ever use this as a diagnostic tool.

It's not really, it's, you know, not designed for that. With PCR, if you do it well, you can find almost anything in anybody. It starts making you believe in the sort of Buddhist notion that everything is contained in everything else, right? Because if you can amplify one single molecule up to something that you can really measure, which PCR can do, then there's just very few molecules that you don't have at least one single one of them in your body. This technology is for research. We know that. Carrey Millis said it. Nobel Prize for PCR. CDC, I always mentioned a document of 13th of July on PCR.

It's the chapter limitation and the chapter quality control were not respected. Usually you have to redo it and make sure it is this. And this limitation, it says clearly, the CDC said clearly, you cannot diagnose anything. This is not done for that and you can definitely not manage an epidemic before a pandemic. And then the third is that WHO produced during the year 2021 a document called medical product alert. Small written very small. They produced five versions and they said, And they say the PCR can not be used without giving the amplification cycle very clearly.

Right. Nobody did that. And everything was wrong. Right. But I would say another thing that was very important, I did some research. I did an article, ACTA biomedica for doctors who asked me to clarify with international health regulation. And I did something very simple in research. You compare Sarascov 1 and Sarascov 2.

Right. So, Raskov-Wan took eight months to touch 24 countries. So it's not like it went from Korea to Frankfurt in one day. And what it did is that I realized that the coronavirus is mutating so quickly. They never could develop or experiment a vaccine. It was failing each time, 30 years. So I said, no, that's not possible. Right.

To make a vaccine that's going to work for the entire world. No, and that mutates. if it is a virus and I have no evidence because normally you have to put the Koch postulate and you have to see if it is chemical, if it's radio nuclear or if it's something else. Why focus on that or with all the you know? Yeah. So this I saw but. So you haven't seen just to be clear because this is a whole other conversation. It comes a lot. You haven't seen evidence that this is necessarily even a virus. Is that what you're saying? Exactly. Well, I have seen evidence that the postulate of cor has not been applied.

systematically and that this is mutating so quickly that at each border you have to re-establish if it is a virus, a bacteria, a parasite, a chemical agent, you know, like a toxicity, any toxicity actually, or it is a radio nuclear or it is one of those bio-weapons that we have listed. And this was in the international health relation course. First you do a detective work and And the communication, we did some tabletop, simulation of a press conference, and the ethical communication was to say, we don't know, but we are searching. And we have this evidence, but we are not sure that this is going to be the same in your country, so check it again.

You see, and listen to what people say, go to the ground, re-establish the postulate of court. What has not been done in the court postulate? you have to isolate and purify the virus and you have to take pictures. As it mutates all the time, it should be always different. Yeah. And the third and fourth is that you have to establish what we do in science, evidence, you have to prove that the cause, the causality, this creates a, creates a being. In some ways you're supposed to read, like take that isolated element and see does it infect cells, right?

Take mice, put it back and look if it's the same change. change. You take another one, you do the same. You take this virus if it is there and do it. And the fourth is the transmission. Does this mice transmit to that? How, how long, in which condition, in temperature, in the desert, in the Antarctica? Right. It's not possible to do a standardization. It should be, every nation should be doing this on their own for their own environmental differences. And so none of this happened. No, on the opposite, it's standardized. And we got locked down after a month and then I said, no. It's impossible.

Right. It's impossible. Because the first one was 20, it was eight months to reach 24 countries. Yeah. So how come Strascov 2 is suddenly locking down in one month? Right. So, you know, there was so many incoherence. And I remember one of the issues when we first spoke that you were saying is,

why did none of the scientists and specialists that were all involved in studying SARS-Co? one not get called and invited into a room to weigh in on stars cov2 it was like they were banned from being listening not going to listen to them and we were running on computer models imperial models that of now and by the way some of this you and i were discussing we now know how wrong those things were because time has passed right so nothing was going as in and you made it very clear then people can go back and watch that episode on all that was wrong that really just shocked you in the work that you've done. Now we are, you know, a year and a half, nearly, you know, beyond that, moving towards two years since that moment, what is your message now? If you've been watching this,

where are you at now? What is your focus now? And what do we need to be thinking about? Yeah. Well, of course, you know, when you have a scene like that, you study, you look, you read papers, we all do this and sometimes it becomes totally incoherent. So I try to make some sense of coherence in what are they doing through WHO and through the UN by the papers they're producing. And what I saw is that they are changing slowly the agenda of WHO. Even the meetings they do like the General Assembly, which is each year in May, they have changed and made the extraordinary World Health Assembly in November 2021. And I thought that's very strange.

This is exceptional if there is a war. Right. You know? So a specific special meeting just for that conversation. Normally they can wait. The Creative Board is in January and in May in Geneva. It's the assembly where all the member states, ministers of health come. Right.

And they discuss the agenda of the future, the strategic priorities. And suddenly they have this. extraordinary. So some people alerted me and I started studying that and I said, oh, what are they doing? They're preparing treaty convention of a new type. And there was a paper there from a woman I have worked with Ilona Kikbush, which is a bit strange at the time already. And I thought, ah, she's there again. She was on mega cities, health in all policies, you know, this type of why are you talking about this? But so she did that with. somebody else and this paper was circulating for all member states and was rolling out how they were going to establish a new convention a bit like the tobacco convention and the idea that suddenly i saw in it is that they wanted to take down the constitution of the national member state our constitution and instead establish the future constitution as the only one government i take the

the shortcut. Yeah, right. And I was trying to say, how can they do that? And they were referring to some articles. So, yes, I went to see and go and look, your auditors can go and look at the WHO constitution, but you have to look at the right one where there are footnotes, because there's some they erase the footnotes. And Article 19 to 22, you have it all, how they can take a grab on the world and what they have already done since January 2020. They can, in the name of emergency, and that's why we're still in an emergency law. Yeah. They can change the definitions.

They change the pandemic definition. They change the immunization is a vaccine definition. They're changing who are health workers. They're changing what is the public health emergency of international concern in a regional one also. So that's one. The other one is the procedures. They can roll out the diagnostics and the products they want. They are the agency of validation, one health, one world.

And then you have all the marketing, all the products they're going to roll out. What they did, the measures, they can decide there are five items. And that was very strange. The other thing that was very strange is that, and that people who will listen will understand why it's dangerous. In Article 19 and 20, if a lawyer sees that, he's going to. to jump. If two-thirds of the member states agree, everybody agrees. The majority of two-thirds of member states saying, yes, we agree with this treaty or convention will make everybody submitted to that. That's, you know, we haven't seen this coming. You know, it's what's weird,

and I even thought about like putting ads out. Here in America, we have only ever thought of the WHO is this group that sort of overseas third world issues, right? Health in Africa, India, things like that. And it's always seemed like a good thing, great, someone. You know, I would almost say in America, I practically interchange like UNICEF and the WHO is the same thing. Like there's just these groups, these nonprofits out that they're doing good work in the world. And then I realized in COVID, at what point did WHO think they're in charge of us, right? I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, started realizing that we have a third world medicine group that is now treating America and the UK and Sweden and Switzerland or whoever will go along with it as though we're like a third

world nation. You can just rush in here, force vaccinate us as though we're not educated, you know, and I realized in some ways what have I been accepting happening to other nations? This is horrible. But who do you think you are? Right. We're the United States of America. How is this possible. The irony is that not President Trump, but before, they rolled out a plan to take over the world through the UN institutions because they could not rule the world on their own. Because I was looking for Paul Wolfowitz. He replaced James Wolfensen at the World Bank and I had worked with him and he didn't take care of health. But when Paul Wolfowitz came into the World Bank, he signed directly with Gabi. He sent with Gabi, World Bank and WHO to create this IFF IM. I think I talked about

it, the international finance facility for immunization, rolling down the money from World Bank, our money, into Gabi, creating CEPI, yeah, for epidemic and innovation. And he could go on with his vaccines and the IFFIM has vaccine bonds. Go to the website. I have vaccine bonds. Go to the website. I went the other day and is like, is it still there? And yes, you can see you can be part of the vaccine bonds. And are they playing roulette with us, you know, right? This is one proof that something was going on at that time already with Palfov, who was the undersecretary of the Pentagon policy and working a lot with defense.

Why did he do this move? And this paper says yes, because they could They could not take over the world and they were worried of the Russian and the Chinese and they cannot dominate that world. So let's use the United Nations. So hop to the World Bank with Gavi, they take over and submit everybody else becoming a world government. If you analyze what the World Economic Forum did in the last 10, 20 years, they went to Asia,

to World Economic Forum, Japan, Asia, a big forum. So they did go to China. A guy like Maurice Strong, who was always in the UN, and he was part of the Rio climate change hoax. Yeah. Yeah, he went to China. You know, everybody seemed to go there. So the United Nations started at that time, 2003-5, to start being in the hands of those warmongers, going through the United Nations and submitting, doing a submission.

act by papers and slowly by slowly. If you follow this very interesting Bill Gates, not a doctor, but he came to Switzerland in 2006, created a foundation. 2009 he signed this agreement who gives him total immunity with the Swiss government,

gives him the status of a member state, with immunity. And then he puts in his board, you can see, you have the papers that gave you about But in the people who were in the board, you see former UN heads of agency, like Mary Robinson, head of the Human Rights Commission. Abbot, you see also Tedrod Gabriyasu.

Before he became Director General, he was in the Gavi. So they're just using everybody in the UN system to turn over the world and seems to happen right now, whoever are those who direct the UN system beyond what we see. by doing it's amazing because you know and i've said this before on this show i grew up um is what we would reference as a progressive liberal in uh in america my parents would talk about the u.n like it was star trek like this idea of it's the melting pot for the world and we're all going to be the bread basket of the world we're all going to work together and it sounds like a really beautiful thing and now i realize especially in the united states of america where i think we have a

a very special constitution, one that in some ways kept us through this COVID pandemic from being totally assaulted the way I've seen Canada and Australia and other, you know, more like socialized nations. We still have some protections here. But this idea, you know, that we would all work together, I think in some ways as a little kid, and I think even my parents thought, but America would be in charge. But this thing wipes away at all. It wipes away our constitution. they don't want to see any of those things. And what's amazing was the use of these sort of NGOs, right? These nonprofit organizations.

And in many ways, they're criminals. I mean, Bill Gates is a criminal. This is a guy that was busted for trying to run monopolies, you know, looked at it as I think a bad guy in America. And then he said, you know what? I think he just said, I'll do the same thing, only I'll call it nonprofit work. I'll go and say, no, I'm investing in humanity.

and the future of the world. And it was genius, but now we are seeing the dangers of it. Like, it really seems scary. There was a video that came out of one of these meetings, talking about how to use the WHO to track the surveillance of people that are vaccinated. Let's take a look at this really quick, because I think it's a huge part of what we're talking about. So let's have a digital health certificate acknowledged by WHO.

if you have been vaccinated or tested properly, then you can move around. So for the next pandemic, instead of stopping the movement of the people 100%, which clock the economy globally, you know, you can still provide some movement of the people. Indonesia has achieved, G20 country has agreed to have this digital certificate using WHO standard and we will submit into the next World Health Assembly in Geneva as the revision to international health regulation. So hopefully for the next pandemic, we can still see some movement of the people, some movement of the goods, and movement of the economy. I mean, just what this guy is saying with a smile on his face is like this is a beautiful thing. Obviously, it's a room full of people.

But you were talking about some international body controlling the movement of people. right those that will be allowed to move and those that will not based on our testing our vaccine which in this case wasn't properly tested never achieved what it was promised to achieve now we're seeing all sorts of health complications around the world rises in all cause mortality i mean just really horrific things that for your average scientist i mean honestly is sending off red flags we have more scientists speaking out now against health departments and government agencies than any moment in the history of the world. I've never. And you and I, you're here because we were just at a speaking event. And I said, this is a room full of scientists that are all, you're all the top of your field, like literally saying, folks, wake up, wake up to what's taking place here. Do you feel like as you're speaking out about this that people are listening, are we getting it? Yes, it's getting better. But they don't see the magnitude. I still. I still. have a feeling they don't see how far it is. They have to take over their sovereignty.

And they have a hard time to think that the government lies. But once someone lies in your family and lies and lies, you know that he's going to lie on the road. So that's where I'm trying to show them that, no, we have to create a new world. You cannot just stay stuck with someone who lies to you. And what is going on, what is rolling up there is that the VHO is taking the grab in the name of values, in the name of ethics, in the, I'm going to help you, I'm going to be nice with you, but we are forcing you to put this vaccine, an experiment, global scale when it should be clinical. So it's very shocking, but what they have to, and that's why

I speak, is that all those values that you have, and I have also, it's, well, we're a good world, we're going to help each other and it's nice. You can see in the documents, I invite you to see the documents of the amendments of the international health regulation by the USA, health department. It is, don't strike, the WHO shall consult the nation. No, WHO will offer its aid, and if you do not obey, you will be on the commission of complaint

and we will force you, taking a shortcut, and you go, That's what we're adding in to the languaging. Yes, they're changing and twisting the language since the beginning, but now we see it. So it's less and less voluntary and more and more dictation. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Yes.

If someone has, what they're doing now, and you can go and see the text from 14th of November, US amendments is that they're trying to do quicker time span between alert and response. So there's alert and you have to do a preparation to alert, so you're going to do an intermediate alert and then you're going to do grades of alert and each time you have an action trigger response. So I see again they're going to, they want to establish a permanent alert response fear. So people are afraid and they will say, oh, I have to take a vaccine because they have put a standard. So they are changing the rhetoric in the name. We're going to help you in the name of equality. We have to do this with everybody has to have a certificate. Everybody has to obey and we are taking care of

of you. It's really like in fairy tales, you know, Hansel and Gretto, I'm going to take here, come and eat in my place. And it is this perversity that you see in the text. It's obvious. Any school could make an exercise on those texts or somebody who wants to do a work of study work on a master. It's very, very interesting. It is take away the power of nationality, of sovereignty, nations, and impose. WHO. I mean, just that term, national, take away the nationality, which is, you know, this idea of being a nationalist, they've done a really great job in the media. And you're saying WHO is behind the media. A nationalist is now a white supremacist, you know, um, psychophant. Like, they're the crazy people. They're the dangerous people that actually just believe we should have a national identity and care about it. Something that in America used to thrive here. It's really scary. How many people like see that. as a bad idea. I've even seen in terms, you know, there's now, you know, professors coming out with writings talking about we shouldn't call ourselves Americans because that somehow makes us

better than everybody else. We should just call ourselves, you know, citizens of the United States, which is just all of this is all part of the same thing. Now, you had a really cool graph where you sort of lay out the pandemic, and I just want to take a look at this as you can sort of talk this For the sense of coherence, people have to understand that this is a plan. It's a strategic plan rolling out. We can find in the text. Under WHO emergency law of the international regulation, we are still in emergency. We have to stop this.

Now, 2020 and 2021 was really the creation of fear through a deadly virus. It is invisible. It has not been studied. They're creating Omicron. five different variants at the same time now. Right. Five different vaccine experimental that have not been experimented. So be afraid is really the motto for the rest.

It's not finished. But then the scientific lies and deception have been rolled out under this fear very easily. Yeah. In 2020, it was really to establish a test that would prove or people and force the coercion again. to take the test with 95% of false positive. And it's a tyranny of tests and it is a terror of the media. You have to know that McKinsey is behind this. The firm McKinsey.

So they are rolling out a plan that is very carved. So the fraud and evidence is there, I've already said, the PCR, the post of the court. But that was the basis to say, oh, we need an experimental vaccine. Right. And we forgot the experiment. And in 2021, it was the year where they really rolled out this experiment clinical trial that should be on all of humanity.

Yeah, it should have been 80 people. Yeah. And it's open air. And I tell my colleagues, but this has never happened. Why did you put one million people in a clinical trial? It's not a clinic. It's open air. Right.

Right. And if something's going wrong, how do you stop it? I mean, if you have made an error, where does it go? So that was 2021. 21. And also all the ethics, there was no validation. still today, people don't realize. And there is no ethics because everything, conflict of interest, I don't pay the damage,

no liability, no consent, force consent, abuse of power, even giving back the results to the people, patient. Nothing of all the ethics research committee. So from your perspective as a former member of the research and ethics review community, none of this is ethical. This is not ethically how you treat citizens. and patients or doctors for that matter. It would not even have ticked the first box

because it is a company who is making a vaccine experimental who is leading the research and who is not paying the secondary effects. So no independence. Just that would not have work. Right. And they're not even saying what is in the vial. Right.

So you cannot. It's like if you give an apple to someone and you say, I tell you my apple is really good. It's going to heal you, but I don't tell you what's in it. Right. And if you die, it's not my fraud. It's the government. Let me give you the apple.

Right. It's poison apple or a fairy tale. Right. All right. So then we go into 2020. Take it like this. Yeah. Okay. So the phase two, total control. What does that mean? So total control means that their plan, and I have evidence of this through the documents of WHO, is that they want to digitalize the world. There are many documents that say digitalization of the world in different ways. The tech is extremely important in this rollout of phase two of total control. It's the digital biotech, AI, Internet of Things, Internet of Bodies that is on one side.

And the other side of the document is the genome editing. And when I saw that document from WHO in July 2021, they were prepared. hearing 22 24. I mean, let's talk about that person for genome editing. What the heck does that have to do with WHO? Genome editing seems to me to be a specialty. I mean, such a, I mean, incredibly experimental, exciting idea for the future of health somewhere in some clinic where I probably will pay a fortune to go and take the risk of editing my

genomes for whatever issue, okay? We can imagine that we are decades away from something. We've been watching just any form of gene editing therapies isn't working. It's causing cancer like crazy. Why would a WHO, which is sort of just the world health organizations we take it, we should be general things. Do you have food? Do you have clean running water?

Is your sewage being separated from your drinking water? You know, and then, you know, do you have a doctor or facility hospitals near you? That is what I thought was about. Why in God's name is gene editing? a part of any conversation inside the WHO, right? Yes, I absolutely agree with you. Genome editing is a no-go. The Convention of Bioethics of Yedo says, don't touch the genome.

It's an inheritance of humanity. Yeah. So when I saw that, I was shocked, really. You know, the decoding of the genome in 2000 happened. And since then, the price of doing your genome passport, has gone down, it's done very quickly, and that's where it says that they have not really disclosed everything about the genome. That's the first thing. They said that there was a junk genome and that you, this is terrible. And actually some people say, no, no, the junk genome is the most interesting.

That's where our power, our antennas are spiritually connected. I say it so people can go and search. Yeah. Junk genome or hidden genome. That's the most interesting. But now the epigenome is how you express your genome, but you don't touch the library. it's going to code and it's going to express your health or your disease. So when I saw that, I thought, oh, that's very weird.

Does that come with CRISPR? Yes. Right, the CRISPR is something already, by definition. You go in the genome, you take off a piece and you put something else. And I said, where is the ethics of this? And already there, if you think about it, there was no ethic validation. And when you look at the research on gene therapy, all the people who have been changed their genome died in the next generation. It cannot survive and it should not be touched.

Yeah, when you look at all these things and, you know, and I'm going to ask the same question, just trying to wrap this up and there's a lot to unpack. Yeah. The they, you know, I'm trying to figure this out. And I ask this, I think it's the hardest question, but I'm asking it now of every specialist I bring in here. Who is they?

And what are they, in your mind right now, what are they trying to accomplish? Yeah, you can, I look at a different level. Okay. Yeah. You can look at the policy level. You look at the UN, you look at the World Economic Forum. And there are different layers of international organizations like big crickens. Yeah.

Huge. And some are enhancers of the total grab on humans. some are contributor policy. So who is at the top of that? Well, there are the puppets of something above. Because the Secretary General of the United Nations takes all the presidents of the world in September every year in New York and he obeys to the Security Council, five states who have been the post-war, big.

countries leading the world. So, you know, who obeys to who? So already even on the UN, Secretary General and above Secretary General, there are a group of people who are trying to direct him. And then in WHO, there is Ted Ross and Gabi. For me, that's, but above this there is a public-private partnership. It's probably private. And what I see there is that the governments of the world are not governments anymore. There are CEOs of a huge, group. Yeah. Not so huge. Well, it's not. I mean, like for instance, we're just, you know, when we look at Jeremy Farrar, welcome trust, this name, we're watching in all of these, you know, conversations about who's funding legal or illegal gain of function, you know,

and these people aren't being arrested. They're not being, even while we are having hearings in Washington over ethics, did someone break a law here? They're very people that should be being called in or rising to places of power inside of WHO, UN, as though, and they all, what is so scary now is even how we're pushing a vaccine as a total failure, doesn't stop transmission, doesn't stop infection, is showing high rates of myocarditis, periocarditis. We have athletes dropping literally on television screens right before our eyes, and yet leaders, President of the United States says on New Year's Eve, what you need to do is go out and get vaccinated. I mean, why is there no fear in what they're doing? I mean, it seems to be a disaster

to anybody still thinking, yet there is an agenda going on here. These players are, what do we do? What are we going to do? I mean, you're obviously here. You're speaking out because you believe in humanity, right? What do we need to do? It's a big question. But first, someone to depopulation agenda. This, you know, that Gavi Bill Gates has had acted... Stated publicly, wants to reduce populations. And that is very scary for me because it means they want to go to children and babies. They are trying to make sterile men and women, and they want to exterminate the original human genome because they know that this is very powerful. We are powerful. We are scaring them. I'm reversing it a bit. Yes. We're scaring them.

I agree. And we have an incredible power. Maybe it's their last battle, probably. That's also spiritual. And we have to make sure that we are anchored in our own DNA and genome, up and down, you know, from the... You know, right there, what I find is how many scientists are talking about the spiritual life. You know what I mean?

And it seems like even I, as a journalist, avoided it in many conversations. It just isn't how we talk about science and it's not appropriate. But so many people are starting to feel that this is good and evil. Yes. Is that what you think is going on here? I cannot say something, anything, it's so evil that I even question if they're human. Because how can you, you know, all these pedocriminality I don't want to talk about, but there is a lot behind this that is unacceptable, ethically, morally.

And I have seen through my work that there were people that were horrible. But you avoid them and you're diplomatic. But I like a sentence from General Romero Rhoho Mdalen, who was the peacekeeper in Rwanda during the genocide. And he was Canadian. And he was there posted and he rang Kofiana and he said, you know, send me troops. They're going to make a genocide.

And he got a PTSD because he got genocide in front of his eyes. He couldn't do anything. Nobody helped him. So it's not the first time. He said, I have shaken. the hand of the devil, I have smelled it, I have seen it, and that's why I believe in God. And I think it resumes very well what's going on because it has forced us to say, this is so evil, what resort is the best for us? Where do you take your strength? Well, it's knowing that

you have not made yourself and there's a higher force and there's a universe and you need to be connected. You know, we're not alone, but we have to connect to our source. So in that sense, we are electromagnetic. We're not just flesh. So when you try and explain it, we're not just flesh. We have a heart, it's electromagnetic, heart brain coherence. The brain is electroencephalogram. And when you love, the frequency of love has been measured. Love is a very high frequency, even in the colors. And hate and fear are very low in energy and frequency. This where we're going with the next medicine, you know, and frequency health. Yeah. And this is what I like. You know, even churches, I'm finding out a lot of things that

I'm going to use in science in the future is that even organ, orgs, you know, the pipes in the churches. Yeah, pipe organ. Even the pipe organ were there to heal. And it makes sense because organ, the pipe organs are, have a frequency of equilibrium. So colors and all this art, which was art before, I think he's coming back to the scene. I agree. I keep saying that I think that what we're going through is the last, you know, white knuckle grasp of the Neanderthals of medicine and control trying to hold on to their relevance. I do think we're powerful beings. I think they are terrified of us. They're even more terrified after the lack of success they've had through COVID.

We can, I say, you know, we focused on those that got the vaccine and many of them are watching the show now and aren't getting anymore. We all find our entry place into realizing what's happening here. But 30% of America, and I think a good part of the world, even though the numbers are probably messed with, really stood their ground and said, no way. And we are seeing a rise now. I mean, here in America, they can't give away the new booster shots. I mean, nobody's taking them. And so we're seeing a real shift. When you look at 2023, we first spoke in 2021, lot happened over the last, you know, almost two years now. What are you, what are you looking at 2023? What do we need to be looking out for? What do you think we need to be doing? Specifically

in this year, it seems to be very important in the future of our species. Yeah, well, on the political level, we need to say no, but we need to cut the finance of all those people because the finance is keeping on that. I would love a finance expert to to do the flow of where our taxes are going. It's very disturbing to think that our taxes are paying for this campaign, propaganda, for experimental vaccines. But at the human level, we have to reinforce our power. We have to get together like in the meeting we had in Orlando, which was beautiful.

With the injured, vaccinated, be together, work together, find there are solutions. Yeah. Absolutely solutions that are not talked about. I'll give you my protocol. And we have to also create this new way of living. Stop always going for the best, the money. You know, I'm telling people, just live simply, you can be happy. It's not the Atali thing. You know, we have a French guy who says, you'll be be happy and own nothing. Right. You will own yourself and you will be happy with simple things. You don't need to do what the media says and what the marketing says because they try to own us also with this marketing. Come back to really simple, the best, you know, make your food yourself.

That's a way to save yourself. And we consider life very differently because we've been programmed through a lot of things. So it's our chance. we have to be positive it's an incredible chance. Those people were the humans were not, were there since the beginning, since a long, long time. So we're here on Earth at this time and in fact it's almost a celebration, even if the battle is still going to happen next year, this year. Are they going to try their best to do another lockdown? I can see that in Europe.

Environmental lockdown, you know, try with money. So we should really be in communities. that are very solid, has solidarity, get out of the city. Yeah. Get out of the city. Because that's, I didn't mention this, but one of the agenda is smart cities. Yes. You know that, because smart cities, you have internet of things.

We know exactly where you are. The prisons. I mean, they're basically like it's like going to be escaped from New York. I mean, literally you will be imprisoned in these spaces. They're watching everything we're doing. Even here in Austin, I think Austin's a big city looking at that. Boulder, Colorado, where I came from, I think they're looking at these very evolved liberal cities will be the first giant prisons. Yeah, as far as I was amazing.

We'll find a counter solution, definitely, but creativity. But we have to have a plan B and C and, and trust, we, you know, we protected. I have no doubt otherwise we wouldn't be speaking. Yeah. So. Well, those are all really great points. I want to thank you for the work you're doing is, you know, you're one of that, you're on that list of really brave, doctors and scientists and authorities that are telling us what's happening

behind the scenes I hope you'll keep us informed and posted on everything and all the work that you're doing I just want to thank you for taking the time to join us thank you though thank you all right good well look as I said and as we've discussed here you'll notice that many of these speakers are saying the same thing it all comes down to community and so you know just as Ashtra and I met at the speaking engagement that I was at here's a list of the places that I'm going to be speaking over the next month. January 22nd, Restore Freedom Rally in Orlando, Florida. That's this Sunday.

I'm going to be there if you in Orlando see me there. As I said earlier in the show on January 25th, next Wednesday, the Austin Capitol. And then February 10th, Anarkapoko, an amazing experience. If you're looking for an excuse to get to Mexico. And then February 12th, the Conscious Life Expo in Los Angeles. When it comes to Anarcha Poco, this is an event that I've been to a few times. Sometimes you'll see people like Ron Paul, even showing up a great event. It looks something like this. Honor and pleasure to be joined now by Catherine Bonandon, who's a producer at Narcopoco, and Jeff Berwick, the founder of Narcopoco.

I'm ready for some freedom under the sun. But what is it, what is an narco polo all about, Jeff? Why did you start this to begin with? Well, it's been coming up our ninth year. So it's actually been quite the journey. I don't know if you saw the HBO special, The Anarchist, but it's been quite a while and really nine years. But it's actually, I think you've been a few times, right?

And the last time was in 2020. And you were speaking on vaccines right before the whole COVID thing. And a lot of people actually said to me, why'd you have Delta talk about vaccines that I was like, you'll see. I knew this was coming. They did see, did they? I remember I titled my talk, I think something like, crypto won't save you from this. But, yeah, so amazing. Catherine, what are the types of me?

I know you're involved in producing, getting all of these, you know, people and personalities all together in one place. What are the types of topics that Narcopico gets involved with? Well, we try to cover in the entire spectrum of functional freedom. So the first day, we talk about philosophy of liberty and really the fundamentals of what we're building upon. And then each day has a separate theme. So we've got a sovereign living day where we're talking about how to grow.

food, how to build community, how to actually do the freedom thing. We have a whole day dedicated to health and honoring your body and becoming free as a human being. And we have a whole day about spirituality and the esoteric, something that I love about Anarchapoko. And I think that we really have a cutting edge when it comes to the liberty movement is because we focus on spiritual freedom. You know, we are spiritual anarchists. And we really believe that this is. is a spiritual experience that we are having here. And that's a really important part of finding your own freedom. And then of course, we also get into things like cryptocurrency and new technology that can

help us to subvert the man and become more free. You know, this concept of anarchy and an anarcho-pulco, people have asked me, Jeff, like, you know, Del, you know, why do you go to an event that sort of has anarchy at the center of it? And I'm like, well, Ron Paul is there and other great. speakers. And when I've been there, you know, there's other, like, there's a lot that I don't feel like I understood about, you know, anarchy or even volunteerism is something that we hear a lot about. You know, for people that maybe that term scares them, what do you usually say to them

about that concept? Well, it shouldn't scare them. The term just means, it's a Greek word. It just means and without archie rulers. So if you're not an anarchist, you actually believe in human slavery. So we're just against human slavery. You know, you've come to. You know, you've come to. It's not what anyone thinks who watches the mainstream media, where they always say anarchy is dangerous and all these sort of things. But we also call it voluntarism, which just means we think all human interactions should be voluntary. So if you don't like the word anarchy, that's fine.

We actually don't use it that much anymore either. Really what it's become as a complete freedom conference. It started out just being mostly about how we have to get rid of governments, how they destroy everything. We've seen that last three years. It's actually converted a lot of people to. to our way of thinking. But now we're just, we're looking at how you can be free in every single way.

And you're going to love it when you come back. It's changed completely where it's actually held in a secret garden now, in a botanical garden. People can watch from like swimming pools and floating pools and cenotes. And we have a whole day on, like Catherine said, on health. It's going to be people like yourself, Dr. Andrew Kaufman, Dr. Carey Medea, all heroes, including yourself, who have been standing. up to this incredible medical tyranny worldwide for the last three years.

You know, I'm looking forward to it. It's, you know, as a speaker, sometimes you tend to just be the only one there. This is one of those events that's really about for me networking with some of the other great thought leaders that are really working on how do we evolve the world that we're living in and make the world a better place. I love that you guys are involved in that. I can't wait to be there. If people want to sign up or they still want to register or get involved, where's the best place for them to go? Anarchapoko.com. Anarchapoko.com. There is anarchopoko.com. Not the great reset, the great resist.

It's time to resist everybody. I agree with that completely. I'm really looking forward to it. And it's a bit like going and learning something in the middle of paradise. So we're looking forward to it. Jeff, Catherine, thank you for staying in this space, giving people a place to really have these conversations.

And thank you for taking the time to join us today. Thank you. February 6th, it's still time to make it down. And if you can't, we have a live stream that you can sign up for on our website. Fantastic. All right, I'll see you all there. Take care. See.

All right. Well, again, I said we're going to start talking about the places I'm going just because it is about community. It's about starting to meet the people. You'd be surprised that your neighbor may think exactly what you do, but we've been so, you know what term I loved, the atomization of society, which is what Michael Yon said just a couple of weeks ago, really. stuck with me, that atomization of societies, how they're getting away with it. They're making us, you know, divide us by race, divide us by religion, divide us by our sexuality, you know, and they just keep dividing us to where we're all by ourselves. I want to reverse that. We reverse that by showing up by going to events, whether it's Texans for vaccine choice and hitting a rally

outside of a capital or meeting in Mexico for all the great events. They're taking place all over the country and all the world. Get involved. These are your people. You need to know them because, you know, we've still got a lot in the horizon here. Look at what's happening. In the face of the world's greatest scientists are speaking out. The, you know, whistleblowers from inside the WHO are speaking out. We have the best scientists now investigating this vaccine in studies and trials all over the world. You have mainstream now having to try and defend itself. Tony Fauci is out on like a Save the Vaccine tour trying to make up other lies to cover up lies that this vaccine would work or would not injure anybody. And everyone knows that that's not

true. So we're seeing this shift, but you've got to ask yourself, the powers that be are not going to step aside. What are they coming with next? How are they going to get over the biggest mistake they have ever made in history? What will they do to cover that up? We need to be talking about this. We need to get together. We need to prepare. This is not a time to fall asleep, folks. It is a time to put your foot on that gas and put it to the floor, baby, because we got a race to win. It's our time. This is our year. Let's make it happen.

This is the high wire. I look forward to seeing you all out there wherever I'm speaking, and I especially look forward to seeing you next week.