The Highwire with Del Bigtree - TURNING DOWN THE HEAT ON THE BOILING OCEAN NARRATIVE

Episode Date: April 20, 2024

For the past year, the media’s go-to climate change fear play has been boiling oceans. Yet simple research shows the inaccuracy of their reporting as many are looking past global warming to solar cycles pointing to possible cooling events.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

People may have noticed over the last year a new talking point towards the net zero push or the climate conversation. And it looks like this, if you haven't seen it. Take a look. A dire warning about the state of the world's air and oceans. The ocean is rapidly heating up, hitting record-breaking levels. Global sea and air temperatures are at record highs for this time of year. Scientists say the average surface temperature of the world's oceans has surpassed the previous record set in 2016. The world's warming waters are a dangerous trend, say experts. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, better known as NOAA, reported this week that ocean surface temperatures spiked in April and May to the highest levels recorded since the 1950s.

Ocean temperatures are warming at an unprecedented rate with 40% of global oceans currently experiencing a heat wave. Those warm waters could cause hurricanes to strengthen more rapidly than normal. You're more prone to get a rapid intensification, you know, where hurricanes can go from some intensity and very quickly become a lot stronger. The climate scientists are saying you can't even say new normal because it will keep ramping up if you can imagine that. Instead it's just going to get worse and worse and worse. So the sooner we get to work, the better. Bill and I, the science guy. Love him.

Got to love him. So he comes up in a lot of these conversations, doesn't he? So it's going to, as you're saying there, it's going to get worse and worse and worse until we act. So again, another climate issue, boiling oceans is our fault. And so these are the headlines, too. If you're reading, you can see these. This is out of the Atlantic. This summer feels like the start of an unsettling new era, boiling the ocean.

And then MSNBC, we've reached the boiling seas part of the climate crisis. And then Guardian, former VP Al Gore gives unhinged rant about environmental threats, talking about rain bombs and boiling oceans during a speech of the world economic forum. So you know it's a global talking point once it hits there. You would hope as soon as someone uses the term boiling with the ocean that we would just write them up as hysterical. I mean, it's such an absurd, you know, description of the ocean. I mean, whatever, but okay, let's follow through here. Where are we going with this?

Well, I mean, that's most people out there, I hope your gut kicks in there when the media starts throwing fear conversation like that out there and say, let's look at this. So what we've been in is something called an element. El Nino. And there's a little graphic here we can explain this. In El Nino, it's an ocean atmospheric coupling event, basically, and it impacts the Pacific jet stream. So you have these warmer climates, and then the opposite end of that coin is a La Nina. And it's the two sides of the same coin. So during winter, you have the warmer, at least in the U.S., warmer, wetter conditions than usual in the southern U.S. And then with the La Nina, you have the cooler oceans and different weather patterns. So So this is something that is continuously ongoing.

It can either be one side of the coin, the other side of the coin, El Nino, La Nino Nina, or just a neutral zone without so much variation between them. But it doesn't take, you know, I just search local news and you can see this headline here. So remember, El Nino means warming oceans. And that's what we're in right now. This is the headline. Confidence grows on El Nino ending quickly replaced by La Nina. It says there are several signs the current El Nino ocean condition is fading.

Now the forecast confidence is also increasing that the ocean temperature are going to cool and eventually turn into a La Niña. El Nino is when the Ecuadorial Pacific ocean water becomes warmer than the long-term average. We have been in El Nino since last year. The El Nino experts at NOAA are now finding much cooler waters just below the water surface at the equator. They say this colder water is working its way to the surface and will soon replace the warm El Nino waters. And you have a chart here that's accompanied this article. The orange is the warm waters. And you can see all the way back it's since last year. year you've had warmer waters but you can see just after january in a february you have this deep decline and now

it's cooler waters so we actually have noa this is the government's own website noa climate prediction center and it says on their website the odds of an la nina developing by june or august of 2024 is 62 uh and it has a chart accompanying that just to give the the ratios here so you can see as we move through the summer and into the fall you're looking at like 80 85% topping out there that we're switching directly over to a londinia not even going neutral we're just going to go right to cooler ocean water so you can probably understand here that some of those headlines about ocean boiling you're not going to see those very much anymore at least for the next year because those temperatures aren't going to support it so but this this brings us to a larger conversation we've

been we've been told so long about global warming warming warming we can't let the temperature rise two degrees or you know something may happen that we don't quite know yet what but it's going to it's going to hurt everybody so net zero we have to do our part reduce carbon emissions but should we be concerned more about global cooling this is a part of the conversation that obviously because of the narrative control has been left out but there is legitimate science showing this this is a 2015 study out of sweden it's called the approaching new grand solar minimum and little ice age climate conditions so it's published in the general natural science it says by about 2030 or 2040, the Sun will experience a new Grand Solar minimum. This is evident from multiple

studies of quite different characteristics. During the previous Grand Solar Minima, i.e. the Sporer minimum, 1440 to 1460, the Mondar minimum, 1687 to 1703, and the Dalton minimums 1809 to 1821. The climate conditions deteriorated into little ice age periods. So let's break this down a little further. We have a chart here from Space Weather Prediction Center, and this is a government, organization actually tracks the solar cycle progressions. So you can see right now we're at the peak of solar cycle 25 right at the right there. And that Dalton minima was way back in the 1800s where you see that lull. So we're talking about the peaks there and the back in the 1800s, you see this lull here. And that was when it was harder to grow crops. Frost was taking out a lot of the

crops, longer winters. They're calling it a mini ice age. So you can see the amplitude of the solar cycle 24 and 25 is getting smaller, and they're predicting smaller amplitudes. That would bring us into another grand solar minimum is what they're calling it. And the years were 2030 to 2040. So these are times when we're getting colder. And there's actually a climate researcher, John Casey, who wrote a great book on this in 2015 called Dark Winter, How the Sun is causing a 30-year cold spell. So this is documented science. He actually... Bring back that last... I just want to look at his last charge. That's why I fully understand what I'm looking at. So the peak, it says over there on the left of my screen that the sun spot

number meaning I guess the sun is very active that when it's at its highest point we see that peak and then we see it always goes back down. And so, and you're saying look at the tops of those peaks, like in the 1950s and it looks like 1960 somewhere there. It was really peaking high at like 350. but the last little sort of bump there's I guess that's somewhere around like 2010 it looks like or ish that we're not peaking even above 200 and it looks like we're on that cycle and when you go all the way to the left you look at 1800 1825 what they called a little ice age that's the only time we mirrored where we're at right now and we're about to hit the top of the sun activity where we're expecting it drops down if it does the same pattern that it's done since the in this case.

goes back to 17, whatever, 60, 50. And so we're about, at 2025, we're going to hit the top of the sun activity. And then we're expecting it to really drop down, which will be the second, really low sun producing period. And what a lot of scientists and what this writer is saying is, hey, folks, global warming is not your problem. We're going to, we're in that little ice age zone that we saw back in the 1800s. And if you're trying to stop us from being warm, you may actually start planning on how to stay warm. Right, and there's a lot of science saying we may be entering that. We're not quite perhaps in it yet, but we may be entering this.

And those are 11-year cycles. So each one of those amplitudes, so solar cycle 24, 25, they're estimated at 11-year cycles. So that gives you an idea of how long those are. Those aren't just like six months or a year. But you can see this trending downwards, and this is a long process. This is an elongated process. But something else besides cold weather happens during those processes. So the sun enters a minima, which is low sunspots, low activity.

And you can see an uptick in earthquakes and even volcanoes. So John Casey actually wrote a follow-up book to his book, Dark Winter. It was called U.S. Why Catastrophic Earthquakes Will Soon Strike the U.S. One of the charts in that is showing South Carolina, and it's showing during those low sunspot cycles. You have the Dalton minimum. You have the Mondar minimum.

You have these stars here. These are some of the earthquakes there at one of those earthquake zones in South Carolina. So there's a lot of, and you know, this comes into play just, recently with that earthquake in New Jersey, a lot of people, my wife and I were doing shopping, and that's all people were talking about that day. So it gave like a glimpse into something that I've never seen before. Everybody was talking about this on the East Coast. I mean, it was at every location you went to. This was all of it. So this isn't something that's just, you know, a part, a small part of the conversation. There's legitimate science. And even just a couple

weeks ago, our guest, Jim Lee, talked about what would happen, talked about this exact scenario. Take a listen. All right. When volcanic eruptions happen, rainfall patterns change worldwide. They know this. So if you start a geoengineering program, which we've had one going on for decades,

we're only two or three very large volcanoes away from throwing that radiation budget off so badly that we have a modern ice age, a.k.a. Snowpiercer, the film. Now, he's talking about that from a perspective of geoengineering but it works just just the same if there are these large volcanoes and something we should really talk about here too let me explain that to someone that maybe missed all of that part of what he was saying is that you know we're starting to contaminate our stratosphere with

particulates some of them there on purpose for geoengineering purposes also jet exhaust lots of different theories on it but it's starting to whiten out our stratosphere which means it's going to be blocking the sun and he said if we're doing that and we're going into a grand solar minimum where now we need all that sun. All you need is a volcano to go up and always those sort of block out, they get stuck. All those particulates go into the stratosphere. He's saying one, two, or maybe three volcanoes at the wrong time and suddenly you can't get enough sunshine and you are freezing. So that was sort of the really scary and probably extreme. Let's be honest. That's extreme perspective too. But it's one that is backed by science that we never hear about.

Right. And let's root this back into science. You don't even, we don't even have to go to the extreme point. There was a study in the Lancet just a couple of years ago. And it was called, the title of it was global regional and national burden of mortality associated with non-optimal ambient temperatures. They looked at almost 20 years of data, 750 locations, 43 countries, and they concluded this. Average excess deaths related to non-optimal temperatures accounted for 43 percent, 9.43 percent of global deaths. 74 deaths per 100,000 residents with 8.52% of deaths explainable by cold temperatures, 67 deaths per 100,000 residents and 0.91% explainable by hot temperatures, 7 deaths per 100,000 residents. So cold temperatures are taken out 67 people per 100,000, while warmer temperatures too hot are taken out 7 per 100,000.

We've been continually told by the media that hot temperatures are killing people. They're the most dangerous thing that can happen. But this study proves that cold temperatures are by far way more dangerous. And obviously, that's an intuitive thought. But that's science talking about it right here. And so what happens when you have just a narrow window, a narrow narrative, if you will, that science is allowed to look through, that academia is allowed to look through, and everyone else is blocked out of the conversation.

Well, you get inventions and movements that do this. Take a look. All right. That roar is not coming from a snow machine. Instead, the plume you see are tiny aerosol particles. It's the first technology in the country to test ways to brighten clouds in an effort to cool the globe. This system is composed of three main components. In these tanks, Jessica Medrado and a group of scientists from the University of Washington's Marine Cloud Brightening Program are mixing salt and water and using a compression system to test if this machine can distribute the right size particles.

They say Alameda provides the perfect cloud conditions over the bay. The goal? To mimic the effects of pollution in a cleaner way, using salt water to brighten clouds, which they hope will then reflect more sunlight back into space to help cool the Earth. With something like marine cloud brightening, you're not going to just reverse global warming. So it's really important how it plays out in the climate system will depend on where you could brighten clouds and how much. we are kind of locked in at this point committed to significant climate disruption. So the question is, are there other things we can do to help reduce suffering and impacts? And this might be one of them.

Tau State East Bay Professor Elena Given tell is excited about the research, but cautions that as Earth continues to heat up, the various ideas for cooling the world are not without controversy. While there are certain benefits from trying to cool the environment, we are not quite sure what kind of negative effects. So we're not really, we're not saying this is the answer. It's going to be global cooling and global warming is wrong. What we're saying is there's a whole slice of the scientific conversation.

There's real science that shows that we could be entering a time of limited solar output, which may cool the planet. There's a real scientific perspective with real data that shows this. It has been completely blocked out of the conversation. And so this has to come to the table if we're talking about global, doing any type of global movements, especially like changing weather patterns, this has to be at the table, a seat at the table has to be reserved for this conversation. Absolutely. I mean, we've all had that moment where we put on the tank top and the shorts rushed out without any other

options, didn't check the weather, and ends up clouding up, getting cold, and now all of a sudden we're freezing all day long, totally inappropriately dressed. This is like inappropriately addressing the entire world. If we're not watching all sides, and I want to say this, there's one thing I've learned doing the high wire is that these scientists barely know anything at all. I'm so dismayed at the amount of confidence that all science states when it's getting paid, it's millions of dollars to do its research, because it's only going to get its millions of dollars as long as it really sells what it's looking at right now. And time and time again, we keep witnessing that these assumptions, stacked upon assumptions, come crashing down like a house

of cards. And while we have all of our focus on blocking the sun, what happens if just a few short years away, we are desperately needing every single ounce of the sun we can get, or we can't grow anything, we can't move? As you said before, for everyone out there, I'm not saying that global cooling is the definite, you know, that's what it's going. What we are saying is there is a whole bunch of science knowing the media is covering that is just as plausible, has all the same timelines, even some of them, I think a little bit more obvious, that they're not being looked at correctly. And so we're going to do that for you.

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