The Highwire with Del Bigtree - UNCANCELLABLE

Episode Date: January 13, 2023

Neil deGrasse Tyson’s Misinformation; Twitter Files Reveals New Government Censorship Collusion; Major Influencers Speaking Out About Covid & Vaccines are leading the Uncancel Culture; Does Death Data Point Toward Population Reduction?; New Edwards Deposition Segment Admission on Childhood Vaccine Trials and Autism; Warrior Mom’s A Group that is Rallying to Restore FreedomGuests: Tracy Slepcevic, Peymon Mottahedeh#Uncancellable #UncancelCulture #TwitterFiles #BeforeCovidVax #ItAintJustTheCovidVax #EdwardsDeposition #NeilDeGrasseTysonBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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step out onto the high wire. You know, it's been said by a lot of people, you should never meet your heroes because you're bound to be disappointed. I kind of had that moment happen this week because of a podcast that went out. There's a podcast with Patrick Bet David. It's gone viral because it has one of the world's favorite scientists, Neil deGrasse Tyson, being interviewed, and he got into his opinion on vaccinations and mandated vaccinations and forced vaccinations and apparently our social responsibility it looks something like this.

If you want to get an abortion, get an abortion. If I want to get the vaccine, I get to choose. So you can't force, if I can't force you to get an abortion, you shouldn't be able to force you to get the... Because it's not about you. It's about people you interact with, and that's the social contract of public health. But we don't even know if the vaccine worked or not at the time.

Yes, that's what the trials are. Dude, that's why these trials... Are you missing data out there? But let me ask you a question. Are we saying only one type of scientists are right? No, we're saying that the system in place... The 16,000 that's signed... No, no, no.

The system in place to test vaccines... Yeah. There's an entire system that's in place. That with review boards and all of this. That's in place. Now, you can say... What you can say is, I have a better idea

than all these review boards and all these agencies and the CDC, I have a better idea, here's what you should do, and that would have made everything better. Okay, you can put forth that idea. But what I'm saying is, in a case where you can contaminate someone else, it's not about you. It's about the collective health. You're assuming.

You're assuming because somebody can take the vaccine won't get COVID, which, by the way, I don't need to play the clips for you to see it where everybody said, If you get it, you're not going to get, if you take the vaccine, you're not going to get a Rachel Maddow, Joe Biden. I can give you Fouchy. I can give you fit. And you've seen these clips before.

It's not like you've never seen it before. They were wrong. Hold on. So, so the strain evolved. Okay. So that the vaccine that prevented you from catching COVID was tuned to the variant of COVID at the time the vaccine was denounced. what was designed, okay?

Over time, there were variants that arose. The vaccine provided partial protection against the new variants enough to keep you from dying statistically and to basically keep you out of the hospital. All right, well, first of all, I want to say, I thought Patrick did a pretty good job in his interview. If you watch the whole thing, he's a great interviewer. I have been on his show, Valuatainment,

And he does a great job. But this isn't his wheelhouse. It's not a specialty. It doesn't focus on it almost every week the way I do. And so I just wanted to throw in a couple thoughts. And first of all, I've got to say, Neil, come on, Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil. We're talking about science here. And some of the statements you're making, I'm shocked.

I mean, if I was watching this having been an interview that took place, you know, back in like early, you know, 20, 20, 2021, maybe. But it's amazing you're making these statements now. it really makes me wonder. But let's just deal with a couple of points you're making. Number one, he says, the wind was tested. And this is exactly because, I mean, Patrick makes the point like it doesn't stop transfers.

Of course it does. Of course it does. And so I want to point out, Neil, I think the most important thing is, no matter what your belief is on what it is doing, the FDA got an emergency use authorization, bailed out of the trial's early justice. Patrick pointed out, should have been five to ten years long.

Instead, they just truncated that and you know, unleash this on the population. But this is what the FDA said when it was, was it effective? Well, when we were asked, you know, was it effective? We knew this before anyone outside the trials got it. Data are limited. This is vaccine effectiveness against transmission. Unknown benefits and data gaps.

This is the FDA saying it themselves. Data are limited to assess the effect of the vaccine against transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from individuals who are infected despite vaccination. They were incapable of having the trial. It did in that short period of time. This nine months you seem really confident about was not, long enough to determine, first of all, whether it's safe. And second of all, whether or not even does the job of vaccine is supposed to do.

Okay? Now, also, Patrick makes a good point. You're saying, well, look, I mean, this is what the body of science is saying. If we have a social contract, we're supposed to just hand our lives over to the body of science that understands this. But Patrick's pointing out, you have like 16,000 doctors that disagreed around the world, world-renowned scientists. And I'm talking about the Great Burrington Declaration.

They were screaming from the mountaintops. Everybody stop, stop listening to Fauci, stop the lockdowns, you're going to have suicides, alcoholism, all the different issues. Look at the amount of signatures. 953,000 total concerned citizens, 871,000 medical practitioners, now 479,000, 3179, jumping on and saying, whoa, everybody slow your role. And so this other idea that now you want to make an excuse. Now it's clear, I guess, to you that the vaccine isn't stopping transmission, but it was when they released it, your role. You're telling Patrick as though, you know, you don't understand. It was variance. It was variance that was, you know, that changed everything, that it was perfectly effective when it was for the

Wuhan virus, but it, you know, had variance and now it doesn't work as good. But the truth is, is that, and you pointed this out very early on, that this isn't your specialty, so let's talk about someone whose specialty he is that looks at variance. And I'm talking about Geert Vanne-Bosch, who's been on the show multiple times. He started screaming from the rooftops and, and maybe you should have sat down with him saying that if we deliver this vaccine, a leaky vaccine that will not stop transmission in the middle of this epidemic, we will cause variance we can't stop and make it impossible to get the herd immunity. It would be great if he was wrong. It'd be great if you could say, see, it didn't happen, but everything he said did. We can't

get the herd immunity. We're not getting there. And Rachel Wollenski is admitting that in a recent tweet. This is what she said about the current state of the vaccine program. and these variants. We can't. Let me make this clear. We can't stop the spread of COVID-19. But departure testing, the requirement to show a negative test result when flying from China to the U.S. can help slow the spread as we work to identify and understand any

potential new variants. They can't stop it. The technology didn't work, and none of the booster. She's not saying, but the booster is going to save us. She can't even say that because this entire thing is such a disaster. And now we have mainstream media starting to look into what the high wire covered with Gert Bannon-Botch years ago. We are now starting to see headlines like this, Neil? Our vaccines fueling new COVID variants, the virus appears to be evolving in ways that evade immunity.

We have never seen a virus mutate this fast and evolve this fast. And certainly, Neil, you must understand the concept of evolution and how pressure upon anything in nature can cause. an evolution, especially when you have everyone under attack everywhere, when we're all catching the virus and you have a vaccine that even if it did work doesn't have time to ramp itself up, so you're only getting half of maybe the protection it was even capable of doing. And so now you have all of these mutations being caused by the vaccine program. And by the way, you're going to say my social contract is to not put you in danger. How about your social contract? Your vaccine may very well be the reason that we all keep catching coronavirus.

because it has been a disaster and is driving variance if you look at the history and the science around this. And so all of that and to say, you know, wow, well, the CDC and the FDA, we should hand our lives over to them, you mean a group of people that don't fix a problem when they see it, but actually just change the definition? Because by the way, your whole concept of vaccination, the rug has been pulled right out from under you. What am I talking about? They changed the definition. Once the vaccine didn't do what it was supposed to do, they ended up changing it. This is what it used to be.

We all grew up with this concept. A vaccination is the act of introducing a vaccine in the body to produce immunity to a specific disease. This is the world you were living in, Neal, a long time ago, but it doesn't exist anymore. Because now all the vaccine can do is the act of introducing a vaccine in the body to produce protection from a specific disease. That's a big difference. That means you can carry this virus. You can catch it. You can give it to everyone you know, but at least you'll be protected.

Forget about the naturally immune person whose body went and destroyed this virus had a couple of days. They probably weren't out walking around because they felt the virus. At least if it's as dangerous you said it was, let's forget about the idea that so many people were handling this well. In fact, it was such a mild virus for the larger part of the population that we were complaining about how many asymptomatic carriers that were out there. So when you want to say, well, it reduces hospitalizations, really? You mean because most people didn't feel it. And by the way, I didn't sign on to your social contract. I don't believe being born in the freest nation in the world means that I'm supposed to be injected like a farm animal as though I live under someone in China.

So I didn't get it. And I had a very mild experience. And most of the people around me did. So there we have it. And when it comes to what this vaccine could and couldn't do, Deborah Birx, who worked for the government, much closer to all the trials that were being done, this is what she's now. saying about her knowledge much different than your knowledge. Before there was ever variance, this is what Deborah Burke's thought of the vaccine. I knew these vaccines were not going to protect against infection. And I think we overplayed the vaccines. And it made people then

worry that it's not going to protect against severe disease and hospitalization. Oh, so I was supposed to sign a social contact contract with people that were lying to me. Is that it, Neil? Is that what we're supposed to be at? And by the way, in case there's any question left to whether or not it was variance and what they approved in this nine-month trial, which was okay for you, not okay for me, and I'm going to hold on to my right to choose while products are being rushed onto the market. But let's go ahead and look at what Pfizer finally admitted when being asked by a decent group of politicians that are asking the right questions in Europe. This is what they finally admitted about all the trials that you trusted so dearly

that somehow this vaccine was going to make sure that I didn't contaminate you. Well, did they know that? Did they even look for that? Here is the honest truth. The Pfizer COVID vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market. If not, please say it clearly. If yes, are you willing to share the data with this committee? And I really want straight answer. Yes or no, and I'm looking forward to it. Thank you very much. Did we know about stopping humanization before it's entered the market? No. These, you know, we had to really move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place in the market.

And from that point of view, we had to do everything at risk. All right, well, there you have. That's Janine Small. That was the person I'm supposed to put my hands, my body and my life in her hands while she's not even looking at the thing you thought she was looking for. So, Neil, we're in really shaky territory here, but you went on, so let's listen to what else you had to say on the topic. I'm trying to make a statistical pointer, okay? If you say, I don't want to take the virus because it hasn't been tested for five years, and there could be some long-term side effect that worries me, okay?

In that same moment, there's the risk factor of you getting COVID. Sure. Okay? unvaccinated. At one point, 87% of everyone dying in the hospital of COVID was unvaccinated. Okay. So your risk choice is, I'm not going to take it because maybe somewhere down the line, something will happen and we don't know what that is. Or I will risk getting COVID.

And if I get COVID, depending on your age and other things, there's a 3% chance of me dying in the hospital. That's your choice. I mean, it's really disappointing when a scientist that knows what he's going to be interviewed on doesn't come in with the right stats or the right understanding of what's going on. But he condescendingly says to Patrick, you know, if you have some long-term concern, that shouldn't affect how we do this. I mean, that is what it is, but that's not actually science, because you have some bizarre concern about the long-term potential safety issues.

But here's the point, Neil. It's not Patrick that had the concern. It's not Del Bigfee that was the only one with the concern. The manufacturers themselves were concerned, so concerned that they demanded and said, we will not even put this vaccine out unless you protect us from liability. Look at what AstraZeneca admitted when they were trying to, when Belgium was saying, we're not going to give you liability protection. AstraZeneca, to be exempt from coronavirus vaccine liability claims in most countries.

In an article, it went on to say this. This is a unique situation where we as a company simply cannot take the risk, If in four years, the vaccine is showing side effects, Rudd-Dobber, a member of Astros, senior executive team told Reuters, they were so sure that they did not want to be responsible for this product if they weren't protected from what it could do long term, that they wouldn't even give it to a country that didn't give them liability protection. So you want my social contract to be with a company that is going to make tens of billions of dollars

of a product, but will take on none of the liability because they're too concerned about the long-term safety issues and can't be held responsible. Why? Because the trials were too short. That's the honest truth, Neil. The manufacturers knew the trials were too short, but not you, and apparently not whatever planet you're focused on that seems to think we have a social contract to take rushed vaccines. And lastly, you're talking about hospitalizations and, you know, that the unvaccinated were hospitalized and you could die. You had a 3% chance of dying. It's just simply not true. John E. Nied, he's one of the world's leading epidemiologists, has done multiple studies on this through the years. And what does he determine? It wasn't a 3% death rate. It was about 0.27% across

all demographics, or if you break it down for everybody not above the age of 70, 0 to 19, you had a 0.0027% chance of dying from this virus after you caught it. 20 to 29, 0.014%, 3039.013.013.0.018%. In fact, the only people that meet that 3% concern are the elderly over the age of 70. And so, okay, and many people, even Malone, you mean for what it's worth, said if we were going to tell anyone they could get it or should get it, maybe it was the elderly. I don't know if I agree with that. I don't believe in having any products out there that have been properly safety tested. But, again, it's the United States of America, and I believe in choice. And if you want to take a risk with a product that we have no understanding of its long-term effects, go right ahead.

It's your choice. And you should actually consider yourself a part of this important trial, which is all that really. did happen. We all became guinea pigs of this trial. And so when we break all of this down, why do I not believe I have a social contract? Because science has failed us so many time. Neal, do you really want to live in a world where the manufacturers of the product that are the only ones actually doing the safety studies that will only tell you years later, we never tested to see if the damn thing even worked? You want them to be, you want to trust, I'm supposed to trust my life in their hands that they're doing the best work possible.

Well, these are the same industries that created products like thalidomide. Can you imagine if everybody had to get something like thalidomide and then we end up having all of our babies be destroyed and looking like this? It's possible, Neil. It's possible. And there's no returning once the social contract says,

I have no way to opt out, even if 17,000 doctors in the world are warning me, we don't agree with Tony Fauci. There's also biocs made by Merck. It's caused so many heart attacks. lost over a $3 billion settlement. And in the end, we knew that behind the scenes, lo and behold, they didn't tell us the truth about safety. They knew that the product could cause heart attacks. I could go on and on with Johnson's baby powder and everything else. But the point

is, Neil, if we have some sort of social contracts simply by being born into the United States of America to allow companies that are now the number one lobby in Washington seem to have a revolving door in and out of our regulatory agencies are spending billions of dollars funding campaigns to presidents like Trump and Biden who maybe go to their cronies and say, hey, you know what? Even though it looks like this is only a death rate of about 0.27 percent, we think if the government made an emergency, we could mandate this product on everybody, even though it was never properly safety tested. And we looked at the history of this product prior to this really short. human test. It was a disaster in animal trials. All the attempts that a coronavirus vaccine was

written about and the immunopathology and the headlines were everywhere. Coronavirus vaccines, immunization with SARS coronavirus vaccine leads to pulmonary immunopathology on challenge with SARS virus, meaning it looked like the vaccine was helping the virus infect the host. And there was nothing in the EUA by the FDA that figured out and said we got around this issue. In fact, admitted when it comes to enhanced disease we don't know if the vaccine is going to do that. This is what science is all about, Neil. It's about a conversation. And when you have censorship by a very small group of well-funded scientists against tens of thousands

around the world saying we should have a voice, when they're censoring the body of science, I don't feel comfortable. And I believe that people are intelligent enough to make their own decisions. and we should never have a product that is forced on anybody, and that's exactly what we learned from the Nuremberg Code. After Nazi Germany, we said never again is the government going to force any medical procedure or product onto free citizens, certainly not in the United States of America. So I don't know what social contract you signed on to.

I did not. And lastly, you make a really good point, and this is what I want to talk about. are you for scientific debate? So in a scientific debate, here's how that unfolds. I'm in conversation with you. But let's call it a debate. We know, you and I know, walking into that room, either I'm right and you're wrong.

You're right and I'm wrong, or we're both wrong. We know that in advance. So we start having the conversation. What about these data? What about these data? I think those data are flawed. and here's why. Well, how about this? Yes, that's a debate. But you know how that debate ends? It depends where, you know, we need this new data set to resolve this difference. Now let's go have a beer.

I have never seen that happen in a political debate. All right, Neil, I mean, here's the point. Should we have a debate? I want to have a debate. I know that you think you're right, and I think I'm right based on things like what exactly the FDA said when they released this on everybody. You said that and I'm saying they did do. They did prove that it worked. Really on who? On who? On everybody? On everyone in the world? Because this is what the EUA said, Neil. We did check the source. We did take the primary source, which was Pfizer's experimental vaccine data that was submitted to the FDA for their emergency use authorization. And what did it say under section 8.4 unknown risks, data safety gaps in certain subpopulations. There are currently insufficient data to make conclusions. about the safety of the vaccine and subpopulations, such as children less than 16 years of age, pregnant and lactating individuals and immunocompromised individuals. So there you have it. These trials didn't include anybody with any issues. I think it's said that

nearly 50% of Americans have some form of an immunodeficiency issue or an immune problem. So you're going to take a total experimental immune product that was never tested in people that have problems with their immune system and then just say, hey, it was safe for the Justice League, the healthiest people who could find that weren't allowed to drink, weren't allowed to have intercourse. We've got to ask ourselves, why weren't they allowed to have intercourse and all those things? But because the healthiest little group that we looked at, now everybody can get it, those that are obese, have diabetes, all those other issues. Neil, that is so dangerous, man. We are talking about the most reckless way science could possibly act. And what would happen?

Can you imagine, maybe not this time or next time, but if we keep this social contract, where the most powerful lobby in Washington that seems to be controlling governments all around the world and the WHO keeps putting products out that have been properly safety tested, can you imagine if one day we're all given a vaccine that causes, you know, I don't know, like sudden death, things like blood clots and thrombocytopinia and myocarditis and periocarditis and over years they start getting cancers from these things. Can you imagine if that happened? What would the world look like?

Yes, doctors are baffled. Huge rise in all-cause mortality. So lastly, Neil, I want to say this. I've had debates before with great individuals. And even Alan Dershowitz, you know, I've debated this topic with him. We were friends afterwards, and so I want to say this. Neil, I'm all about getting a beer. Let's do it.

But first, I'm asking you to come onto the high water. And by the way, I just showed you a bunch of my cards. You get to study many of the things that I've said, and you can even go back and watch my shows. So come in prepared, and let's have a real debate. And by the way, don't go off half-cocked again. You are really starting to make me concerned about the state of all science. I used to believe in you. I trusted you. If you will just take people's word for it, I mean, is all science just reading the cliff notes of what scientists before them actually said, it's time to do your due diligence. And then come on the high wire.

I'm looking forward to it. I got a great show coming up. We're going to get into the conversation of autism like we haven't for many years and a great new book, Warrior Mom, coming out by Tracy Slapsavik. But first, it's time for The Jackson Report. All right, I'm a little worked up here, so I'm going to just head it over to you, Jeffrey. Take it from here. Hold on a second.

All right. Unmute yourself. I think you're muted. There we go. All right. I'm back. All right. Let a rip. I won't work you up too much. But we have, you know, you start looking at these things like Neil deGrasse Tyson. And he say, how can someone come to these conclusion?

Over the last three years, there's been so much information. So many doctors have come to the forefront and started speaking out. Well, it's really because of the overarching censorship that was directed now that we know by the White House. And people like Dr. Scott Gottlieb. This is the headline here. the new Twitter files. This is what came out of this dump recently. Twitter files, Pfizer board member, Dr. Scott Gottlieb, flagged tweets questioning COVID vaccine. Why is this a big deal? Because he was the director at one time of the FDA. He left abruptly to go to,

to become a Pfizer board member. Pfizer brings out the first vaccine in the United States. What does Scott Gottlieb do? He doesn't just sit back and chill. He's online looking through Twitter, looking at doctor's accounts and then calling people the Twitter liaison at the White House and saying, hey, I found some tweets to censor. Why don't you go ahead and do that? Not a conflict of interest at all. This is the email that was dumped on the Twitter files. August 2021, mind you, the boosters were being talked about here because the first two doses weren't really working too well. He says, this is the kind of stuff that's corrosive. Here he draws a sweeping conclusion of a single retrospective study in Israel that hasn't been peer reviewed, but this tweet will end up going viral and driving news coverage.

What's he talking about? He's talking about a tweet that by Dr. Brett Greyer, And this is one of the first studies out showing natural immunity. And now that we know is better than vaccine immunity. It says it's now clear COVID-19 natural immunity is superior to vaccine immunity by a lot. There's no science justification for Vax proof of a person had prior infection. He tags the CDC director, POTUS, must follow the science. But he also goes on to say he throws Gottlieb a bone here. If no previous infection, get vaccinated.

Not good enough for Scott Gottlieb. He had Twitter put a misleading tag on that Twitter post. What that does throttles the reach for that post and guarantees it won't be in the news coverage or be viral. So that was a big deal. And that study has now been peer reviewed and it's published. And it does show that natural immunity was longer lasting, gave stronger protection against infection, hospitalization. And we know that through tons of studies now. So this is- Oh, and by the way, tons of studies on the COVID vaccine.

Every other study of every vaccine since the dawn of man has shown that natural immunity is always better in every. every single circumstance. So it would have been an anomaly for this vaccine to actually break out and do something that no vaccine had ever done before. Somehow, in our really rushed trials of a product that hasn't worked for 20 years, we managed to make the best vaccine of all times. That was the assumption. You shouldn't even needed science to say that natural immunity was better. What you needed was science to prove that that wasn't the case, and no one could provide that. Right. And so there's a lot of talk about these Twitter files, but I think one of the more interesting things is this litigation from the Louisiana and Missouri attorneys generals

against the United States government and its collusion with big tech. And here's the emails that just keep coming out of this. And these are the actual emails. We're getting screenshots of the internal emails and we get to read the whole things ourselves. And this is a, we go to an email from Rob Flatterly. He is the director of digital strategy. And he is writing a Facebook exec. This is on August, I'm sorry, April 9, 2021. And he says this. And he's asking about the products. What kind of products do they have to censor people, basically? He says, really don't, really can't care less about products unless they're having measurable effect. I still don't have a good empirical answer on how effective you've been at reducing the spread of vaccine skeptical

content misinformation to vaccine fence sitters in the now folded lockdown. He's saying lockdown's over. We have people that are vaccine skeptical. What are you doing to make sure that they don't see this information that makes them more skeptical? So he goes on to say this. These emails are, you know, days, weeks apart. This guy is like an octopus. He's emailing Google, Twitter, Facebook.

He's trying to really quarterback this thing. So now he looks, he's talking to Facebook again. And he said, we're talking about vaccine hesitancy and misinformation. Since we've been on the phone, the top post about vaccine today is Tucker Carlson saying they don't work. Yesterday was Tommy Loren saying she won't take one. This is exactly why I want to know what reduction actually looks at. like if reduction means pumping out most vaccine hesitant audience our most vaccine hesitant

audience with Tucker Carlson saying it doesn't work then I'm not sure it's reduction please reduce this I love this reduction this guy is like it's just short of writing in all caps Tucker Carlson is everywhere man I mean come on this is a reduction what is this oh my God if it wasn't so tragic it really is funny but literally it is fraud it's government fraud upon the United States of America and all of humanity is what we're talking about here. Our lives were destroyed. So many now hang in the balance with a totally dangerous product that wasn't tested. And the more we know about it, the less we like about it. And so now he goes on to Google, and he's talking to a Google exec about YouTube because Google

is the parent company. And he starts to talk about this. Now we get into some really, really interesting waters here. In my opinion, these are some of the most damning emails that we've Brad. It says this here. As we move away from a supply problem, so they have enough vaccines now. It's not a supply problem toward a demand problem. We remain concerned that YouTube is funneling people into hesitance and intensifying people's hesitancy. How far does this go? We want to be sure that you have a handle on vaccine hesitancy generally and are working toward making the problem better. This is a concern that is shared at the highest and I mean highest levels of the White House, he says. So there you go. I mean, conspiracy theory just blew up right in everyone's face. It's coming from

the highest. And he means the highest levels of the White House. You know, it just occurred to me as we were reading these folks. We should really ask ourselves, if these vaccines are dangerous and they are having real side effects, what hope do we have that these people went that went this far out of their way to stop any conversation about the dangers, any conversation about the lack of proper testing and transmission. Do we really believe that after this big an effort, tens of billions of dollars spent to manipulate us in this product, that now they're going to admit that the bear's deaths is the highest, the vaccine adverse events reporting system is the highest ever recorded, that they're going to admit, yes, all of these teenagers that are dying of heart attacks at 16 years

old. That's just natural, even though we have no history of ever seeing that before. Athletes, thousands around the world having heart attacks and blood clots being pulled out that coroners are saying, we've never seen anything like this. Everyone's like, well, if it's really happening, not everybody. Those that are not with us that are still brain dead to this, like Neil, I suppose, like, what confidence can we have when there's this much propaganda by your own government, a government that is supposed to be for and by the people. Not the government for the people, for their conjecture, for their questions, not against them. We need strong legal action at this point and strong congressional action through committees at this point to investigate

and on the back of this type of reporting. The evidence is out there. And one final tweet here, and this one really drives at home. This is Michael Schellenberger. He is one of the people that had access to the Twitter files. but here he's tweeting about more from that litigation from Louisiana, Missouri. And he's talking about the levers that Facebook uses. The levers are basically the tools, engineers used to manipulate the control of information on Facebook. So this is what Facebook is saying about their levers for tackling vaccine hesitancy content.

It says, as you know, in addition to removing vaccine information, we have been focused on reducing the virility of content discouraging vaccines that does not contain actionable misinformation. this is often true content. He goes on to say, we'll remove these groups, pages, and accounts when they are disproportionately promoting this sensationalized content. So, Del, think about these groups that started to share about vaccine injuries, to share about problems they're getting after the vaccines. That's a true content that may make people hesitant about vaccines.

And we do know that these groups were vanished, disappeared, neutralized, gone. And here's the email that shows that Facebook was doing this purposely. knowing this stuff was true. It's amazing. I mean, they're admitting, we know some of this is true, but we're going to shut it down anyway just because you asked us to as the U.S. government. This is, I mean, it's everywhere, man. These stories are everywhere right now.

It is really shocking how corrupt our government has become and its influence and its control over media and now social media and the Internet, something that really needs serious, serious oversight to take place now. Yeah, and you may get your wish here, just to cap this off. This is the Hill headline just recently. House GOP approves resolution to create a panel to probe weaponization of the federal government. This was a party line vote, 221 to 211. All Democrats oppose the vote, and this is basically to protect the First Amendment.

They're going to be looking at how the government was weaponized against the First Amendment here. So this is a sad day for the Democrat Party, of which my family I grew up and is part of my parents marched in the 60s to have, freedom of decision and choices, and certainly freedom of a speech, the right to march in Chicago against the President of the United States of America. My parents were there, and now this party is against any investigation

into regulatory agencies, FBI, CIA that was sentencing American citizens, and even worse than that, world-renowned scientists and doctors. And, Dell, some good news here. So we're seeing, after the last, you know, really about five years, We've lived through cancel culture, and this is basically people piling on to get people canceled,

whether it's the public piling on somebody or even the government canceling people. We're seeing a new page turned here, and this would be really called uncancel culture. We're seeing people that cancel culture comes for in the past they would have gotten them, but now these people are uncancelable. And so really to start this to talk off, that happened to us. And the same theme keeps happening. I'm seeing a trend here. So let's look in 2020.

Media Matters. They were celebrating this. This cancel culture came for us here at the highway. YouTube terminates anti-vaccine figure Del Bigtree's account after he pushed dangerous coronavirus and vaccine misinformation. Instagram took us off. Facebook took us off. Those were our main viewing.

Here's the list. This is what happened to us, folks. July 2019, Vimeo bans us. We had, you know, I think our first video up. Instagram, February 2020, banned, the high wire. YouTube banned us July 2020. Spotify kicked us off August 2020. Facebook in November of 2020 and PayPal,

which was how we were allowing you all to donate to us in December of 2021. It was a blitzkrieg against us, but it didn't stop it did it? No, it did not. In fact, we created our own platform. We stream here at thehighwire.com, and we've become more successful than ever. We've become one of the most trusted news shows during the entire coronavirus response that people tuned into to the tune of millions,

around the world. So it actually backfired on them. And this is a trend we're continuing to see. So we saw this just less than a year ago with podcaster Joe Rogan. So when he signed up for Spotify, this was the headline people celebrated. A lot of people, Joe Rogan's Spotify deal

allegedly worth $200 million doubling initial report. And after that, he really went all in. He started interviewing people that we had on our show like Robert Malone, Dr. Peter McCullough, talking about vaccines, talking about therapies for coronavirus, even bringing up on Ivermectin, which he took, and the media went after him and the cancel, the medical cancel culture came after him.

And this is what it started to look like. And it really cinched around his neck pretty fast. Study finds ivermectin, the horse drug, Joe Rogan championed as a COVID treatment, does nothing to cure the virus. So then it goes on. Spotify must take action to block Joe Rogan's podcast, COVID misinformation, health professionals urge. You know you're in trouble when the health professionals come for you.

And even this, we had, here's who left Spotify because of Joe Rogan. at Joni Mitchell, you had artist Neil Young. The Spotify basically, they said choose, Neil Young said choose between my audience or my music or Joe Rogan, and they exited him out the door. So now here's the headlines just like with the highway that they're seeing for Joe Rogan. Spotify bet everyone would forget about the Joe Rogan controversy,

and it paid off. It's a case study of a brand staring down criticism and prevailing, and an individual as well. And so we brings us to the most- Joe. It brings us to the most recent person here that is in the crosshairs. And again, a person with a gigantic reach really kind of uncannable at this point is Jordan Peterson, Dr. Jordan Peterson. And his struggle here was private. And he actually drove the news cycle because he has such a gigantic reach. And he went to his Twitter page, which has 3.7 million followers. And he posted this just last

week breaking the ontario college of psychologists has demanded that i submit myself to mandatory social media communication retraining with their experts for among other crimes retreating pierre polev and criticizing justin trudeau and his political allies that was seen by over 25 million people named one news organization that can have that reach jordan peterson goes on to say this in the tweet i am to take a course of such training with reports documenting my progress or face an in-person tribunal suspension, my rights operate as a licensed clinical psychologist. I keep having images like clockwork orange where like Jordan Peters is just sitting. They're like having to watch these video screens in Canada.

Man, Canada, I'm so sorry for you guys. I mean, what a, you know, what a situation you find yourselves in. And as we've watched, growing up in America, there was always this idea in the education system that I was a part of like, socialism's not that bad. In fact, look at it, they get free health care and blah, as though we were being trained to move into socialist, you know, direction and now we look at Australian Canada what's happened and you're like oh my god I mean America it wasn't great here but we definitely did better with the amount of you know our

our little thing called a Constitution really got in a way of them kicking in our doors and sort of deciding to to strip us up our rights completely yes and so you know Peterson gets this this is 56 page complaint from the Ontario College of psychologists and they're waiting for him to become the victim and he goes on the offensive so he goes on the twitter and continues and says this i am willing if ontario college of a psychologist which they won't to make absolutely every word of all this fully public public public so that everyone can decide for themselves what is actually happening so he goes full transparency and says and to let the chips fall where they will in consequence and that is exactly what he did you can read the record at his twitter page it's it's tagged at the top there

record of ontario college of psychologist first dr jordan beaterson it's a 56 page complaint. You can see what's all about. But Peterson was pretty quiet. He didn't do the rounds on interviews, on talk shows or anything like that. He wrote an op-ed in the national posts. And that was his answer, his reply. He says, I will risk my license to escape social media re-education. The Ontario College of psychologist wants to retrain me to behave properly. And this should concern everyone. He goes on to say, what exactly have I done? That is so seriously and professional that I am now in danger not only to any new potential clients but to the public itself. It is hard to tell with some of the complaints. But here are some examples that might

produce some reasonable concern among Canadians who care about such niceties as freedom of belief, conscience, and speech. And he goes on to say, this is what the complaints were levied against him. I retweeted a comment made by a conservative leader Pierre Poliev about the unnecessary severity of COVID lockdowns. Okay. I criticize Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, I criticized Trudeau's former chief of staff, Gerald Butts. I criticized an Ottawa city counselor, and I made a joke about a prime minister of New Zealand, Jacinda Arden. So that is what he's guilty of. And boy, did they pick the wrong fight here, the Ontario College of Psychologist. Now, let's look at Jordan Peterson's YouTube page. So he has a reach

on Twitter, but YouTube, he has 493 million views so far, 6.18 million subscribers. He is his own news outlet by a long shot. So we're seeing. here, obviously he's in, he's in for a really hard road right here. This is not going to be easy. I'm not saying this is going to be a cakewalk for him, probably a very, very difficult time for him. He's worked very hard for this license. He prides himself with his license, and they're trying to take this away. But this is something that even if they succeed, they're going to be dropped down a notch in the public's eye because this is really authoritarian move. You will watch the population of Canada siding with Jordan Peterson because it's the value

that they believed they were endowed with being citizens in that country and realized that their government no longer sees it that way. These are the sort of the necessary birth pangs of real change in government. As we are seeing, the right investigations taking place. Canada will have its day. I know they will. Absolutely. And so let's switch gears here. A final story. This goes off a little bit from what we've been talking about, but nonetheless more important. So there's a gentleman. he just did the rounds on some interviews that have really received a lot of attention. His name is Paul Ehrlich, and he wrote a book in 1968 called Population Bomb. And if anybody wasn't around back then, it was a big deal.

It really went viral before viral was going viral. It created a lot of conversation. And this is what some of the interviews that he was on would look like. Check out the tone of these interviews. Given the population explosion, let alone in this country, what can the government, What ought the government to do about this? Well, what it ought to do is this. The first thing, you don't want to put,

I'm against government interference in our lives. You want to minimize that. So the very first thing the government should do is try and take the pressure off to reproduce. There's a lot of pressure in our society now to reproduce. If you're single, people try and push you into getting married. You know, your wife, you have a bachelor over, and your wife says, gee, shouldn't I have a nice girl over the ideas?

You know, nobody should escape. So there's pressure to get married. Young couples, if they don't have children, people say, gee, they must be sterile. never say, gee, maybe they like good wine and going to the theater and so on. They prefer that to scraping diapers. So there's pressure to have children. So the first thing that should happen is that the president ought to say from now, here on out, no intelligent, patriotic American family ought to have more than two children, preferably one, if you're starting a family now.

Not any law, but just say this is what responsible people do. He ought to make the FCC see to it that large families are always treated in a negative light on television wherever they appear. There ought to be a tremendous amount of television time devoted to spot commercials, that's what we've had against smoking. But ones in the middle say in the middle of Beverly Hillbillies, you get a scene which shows Los Angeles in the smog, and it just says this city has a fatal disease. It's called overpopulation.

So long. Now, that sort of campaign, you could have a census, a sample census, which would see whether that was having a desired effect. If that didn't, you could move to giving women bonuses for not having babies. That almost certainly would do the job. If that didn't have the effect, then you could move to changing the tax structure. so that people who had the money and had the children paid for the children.

In other words, you would increase taxes on people with children rather than decrease them. Since when they have the children, they require more services, if that doesn't work, then you'll have the government legislating the size of the family. And people say, oh, that's impossible. Government can never intrude and tell you how many children to have. Well, I got news. You know, it intruded a long time ago and told you how many wives you can have, and there's not the slightest question that if we don't get the population under control with voluntary means,

that in the not too distant future, the government will simply tell you how many children you can have and throw you in jail if you have too many. You know, I have to admit something here, which is I know there's a lot of people that are probably like shocked by these statements. But as I watched this and we were looking at this, I have to say being raised as a Democrat, these are kind of values we were carrying. I mean, and I never saw that video. I didn't know who this guy was. But I remember saying to friends in high school and debates that we were having on topics like population, that I thought, you know, you shouldn't be allowed to have a bunch of kivs if you're on welfare. Why not offer women money to use nor plant or something like this capsule that we did end up developing, right?

And it would be temporary. You can pull it if you get a job and everything. I mean, these are the kinds of conversations that are really commonplace for Democrats. And now that I find myself politically marooned, I'm really having to rehabilitate from some of the thinking, you know. And a lot of it is that people are too stupid to take care of themselves. I think it's a central theme. We're a disease on this planet and there's too many of us. And it really, as I sort of grapple with it, really conflicts with my Christian upbringing, which is I'm created in images and likeness of God.

So which is it? Are we created an image of likeness of God or are we just a vile disease on the planet? So I'm coming clean on that. These are some things when I said, oh, the party changed on me. I'm not sure that it did, right? And so listening to him back then was shocking because he was saying it so openly and flippantly. But this did, as you said, it folded into the generational thinking and actions of people around the world. And so it helped spawn, his ideas and thinking helped spawn the environmental movement.

And it fueled a crusade, actually, which was really the big problem of this anti-population growth, which led to human rights abuses around the world. And so his book, this is the headlines now, because 60 Minutes just recently did another interview. with him. And this is why he's back in the news. So that headline, humanity is not sustainable. 60-minute sites, discredited population bomb author as environmental authority. So remember, his book in 1968 originally predicted widespread famine, overall end of civilization within that next decade, which obviously never happened. So we're starting this segment out talking about him. But now what did happen within 10 years was he wrote another book with another person. So this is

1977 the book is called eco-science population resources environment and the book co-author was a gentleman named john p holdren so remember that name john p holdren because he becomes the director of the office of science and technology policy under barak obama when he was president so let's look at some of these quotes from the book from 1977 eco-science by john p holden and you can see this thought process is now starting they're starting to play around with ideas that you just heard heard in Erlick's interview. So one of the quotes here, we'll take a look at a couple of them. He says, the development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive

fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty. It might be removal with official permission for a limited number of births. Here's another one. A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation then might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men. So obviously these are some, you know, shocking quotes here, trying to think about how we can really bring this population down. But what brought, what got our attention here at the highwire was this quote right here, because now they're starting to talk about the medical piece of this in a really up-to-date way.

And here's the headline, not the headline, but the quote, indeed, with the rapidly increasing ability of biologists to manipulate the genetics of microorganisms, The possibilities for creating deadly agents seems endless. Furthermore, there is little sign that the U.S. action has led to the end of work on biological weapons elsewhere. Biological warfare laboratories are a potential source of a man-made, quote, solution to the population explosion. What a weird, weird statement that is. Are you against it? You're kind of like, but, you know, it has this really nice side effect that it will reduce population.

Right, right. So why are we reading a book from 1977? Well, this guy was working. He was the assistant to the president as well under Barack Obama and the director of the Office of Science and Technology. And he puts this out. This is recommended policy guidance for P3CO. This was on January 9th, 2017. He says adoption of these recommendations will satisfy the requirements for lifting the current moratorium on certain life science research that could enhance a pathogens virulence and or transmissibility to produce a potential pandemic pathogen and enhanced PPP. So John Holdren, who is the director of this office, basically releases this moratorium on this type of research. But when was this done? January 9th, 2017. Look at that date. That was a little less than two weeks before the inauguration of President Trump. Wow. I mean, we're talking. That is gain of function, right? That is gain of function. The guy that could potentially be pointed to as responsible

And we know Fauci's backed with funding and all that. But as we look at this, I love how you've brought this all full circle because there's a lot of conversations about population reduction. And a guy that loved that conversation releases the moratorium so gain of function can take place again. Having stated, what are the nice side effects of, I don't know if he meant a lab leak or just a weapon would be it can reduce population. Really, really distasteful connections you're making there. It's hard. Right.

And, you know, we're getting a string here to the population control piece, to the environmental piece, and to this gain of function piece. And we still don't know, you know, did it come from a lab? Was it release an accident? Was it on purpose? But this all adds to the conversation here as we approach this big question of who did it, where did it come from? Was it natural?

Was it not? This is just a data point here that I think is very important for people to know. It's really, really fascinating investigation there, Jeffrey. I love how you've put that all together, and it does give us, I think, a deeper insight into many of the conversations that are going on. You're the best, man. Thank you for this great work. I look forward to seeing you next week. Thanks, Tom.

All right. Well, look, you know, scientists are in different spaces when it comes to the COVID vaccine. Neil still believes in it as though he's still living in 2020 somewhere. But there's a lot of scientists that have, you know, jump ship on the COVID vaccine, but they're trying to button it all up as like a one-off and fired out in a space where maybe Neil will see it in his telescope. What I mean is something that we pointed out at a recent panel that was put together in Florida by Ron DeSantis.

And nothing against these guys, but I just want to point out that this is a lot of the conversations happening right now. There's been a tremendous loss of trust in public health, and I think you can see that in the decreased uptake of vaccines that have been traditionally used in other states. This isn't just anti-vax people. This is people who have really lost trust in the system, and I think in order to restore that, you have to restore that trust to get those people to believe in, and and the efficacy of these vaccines that have been used for decades without problem and that have been very effective.

The other vaccines actually are quite effective, quite safe. The fact that the public health authorities in the United States have destroyed confidence in public health should not extend to the other vaccines as well. The people who said that everybody should get vaccinated are just as unscientifically wrong as the people who say that nobody should have vaccines. So we have to try to get away from these two extremes. Do not take this information that we are saying here about the COVID vaccines and spread that across all of these other vaccines that we've been giving with very, very, nearly none,

nearly no side effects. We have one in a million. These are safe. One in a million. That is an incredibly rare side effect. So please, parents, do not spread this into other vaccines that have been used safely. Well, this is why we've created a new segment for our show called It Ain't Just the COVID Vax. You know, this is our wheelhouse.

This is what we've done. If you've been following us before COVID, you know all the work we did both legally and as reporters and in our investigations into the safety and efficacy of vaccines. Last week, we played you one of the installments of the Catherine Edwards deposition. Remember, we send Aaron Siri out because you are. the ability for us to say in cases that aren't even our cases, but they're going to have a world-renowned scientist like Catherine Edwards, who literally wrote the book on vaccinations along with Stanley Plotten, somebody else Aaron has deposed. But we are able to say, Aaron, we will pay to have you go and get involved in the depositions because no one is better at getting

the truth from scientists than Aaron's theory is. And so we played you a clip. I'm going to play you a clip in second, but I want to give it some context because it's really this interaction that you have as those that are supporting the work we're doing, what you are making possible because it all builds on itself. It builds on this this library of information we now have that Neil deGrasse Tyson doesn't have. And many of the scientists who I, you know, I'm fans of the work that they have done, but they don't know their space here, but let's get to it. This idea, you know, that vaccines are safe and the MMR is safe and all of this. and especially is always this really pesky conversation about autism.

Do vaccines cause autism? In fact, when you go to the CDC's website, which you'll do if you get a VIS, a vaccine information sheet you're handed when you're supposed to give your child a vaccination, that's all of your informed consent. You're supposed to be told all of the benefits and potential side effects, but they hand you the sheet. Most times they hand you the sheet after you already got the vaccine on your way out the door, which is actually a violation of the Nuremberg Code.

But whatever, the sheet basically says you might have some swelling in the arm and some other things. If you really want to know about other side effects, then go to this website. When you go to that website, this is what pops up in the headline. Vaccines do not cause autism. I mean, it's really weird because you didn't even ask that question. This is literally the top of the page about vaccine harms. And you just want to know what potential harms are out there. They go out of their way to start the conversation with vaccines do not cause autism.

So in the way that we do, we asked Aaron Siri, would you please, you know, and look, there's a lot of weird studies that were done on MMR vaccine, which is given at two years old, and you could get into thimerosol. So we wanted to say vaccines, that means every vaccine, you're pretty sure that every vaccine doesn't cause autism. So we said, let's bring a lawsuit about the vaccines we've never talked about, the ones given in the first six months of life. If you look at the CDC schedule, it looks something like this. These are the hepatitis B, the rhodovirus, the diphtheria, the hemopulose influenza, pneumoccal, inactivated poliovirus and influenza. And look at that. Many of those are on their third dose by the time you're at six months.

You could be somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-something vaccines inside of your kid within that first six months, which is more than any adult ever got back before this program was liability protected. but that's a totally different story. So let's get to it. So we said, we would like, and this is a FOIA request, freedom of information act request. Remember, the government works for us.

So we said, will you please provide us with all the studies and trials that you rely upon when we're discussing the vaccines in the first six months of life, the ones I just listed, that make you feel comfortable with the scientific statement that none of them cause autism? Well, obviously they didn't answer us the way they usually do,

and then they pushed back and we kept resubmitting and finally said, we're going to sue you and we did sue them. We sued them and brought them to court and the judge says, what's going on here? Why will you not just answer this FOIA request? And they're like, well, because we don't really want to. He's like, well, you have to. So they did.

They ultimately, after a long, fought out battle, ended up saying, okay, here's the studies we relied upon for those first six vaccines. I named them all. You saw them. It was about 20 studies. And in those 20 studies, it sort of breaks. down like this. You had one of them that was about the MMR. We didn't ask about the MMR, so that didn't work. One was about MMR and DTAP vaccine. So DTAP was on the list, and I'll get back to that.

MMR and thimerosol. Thimerosol is the mercury-containing preservative in vaccines. So they did separate studies on just the mercury, but there was no mercury in the first six months of vaccines that we were talking about. And then there's all these just thimerosol studies about mercury. And then, And lastly, there's one study on antigens, which we never asked about and really isn't about vaccines, about total amount of antigens in vaccines, high antigen vaccines against low antigen vaccines, not our question. And still, not the vaccines we're asking about. So what's really ironic is of all the studies they showed us, of all the vaccines that we

asked about, only one contained one of the vaccines that we asked about, and that's the D-TAP vaccine. They had nothing on the rest. So when you look at that one study that they sent us. saying, see, we did look into one of the vaccines you're asking about. It's in this. This was a study done by the Institute of Medicine on Adverse Effects of Vaccines, and this is what it says about its investigation of the DTAP vaccine.

Conclusion, the evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid, tetanistoxoid, or accellular pertussis. That's the DTAP containing vaccines and autism. It's also the DTP or TDAP, any version of that. In fact, they said no studies really exist, but there was one study that they did look at. So there was one study, and this is what they said. The committee reviewed one study to evaluate the risk of autism after the administration of DTAP vaccine. It's the only study on the planet that actually exists.

This one study by Guyron Geyer was not considered in the weight of epidemiologic evidence because it provided data from a passive surveillance system and lacked an unbearable. vaccinated comparison population, meaning it didn't have a placebo group. It was using VAERS, our only reporting system, which we don't trust. So we're all screwed. There you have it. But that's all they have. They literally put in the one study that made our point. You never looked at this. You've never looked at this. But this is how this works. So once we won that, now we get to go into courtrooms and challenge scientific professionals that write the book on vaccines literally and say, well, what do you have to say about this?

You know, we're just waiting to see if they try to lie because we now have CDC confirmed court one evidence you never did the proper studies. This is this week's piece of the deposition of Catherine Edwards. One of the leading scientific officials on vaccinations, grab some popcorn, here we go. There are a number of peer-reviewed studies that have looked at and surveyed parents with autistic children

with regards to what they blame as a cause of their child's autism, correct? Yes, sir, that's correct. And many of those studies have come back with results that show that a significant proportion of parents with autistic children continue to blame vaccines as a potential cause of their child's autism, correct? Object to the form of the question. That is correct. Now, in the expert disclosures for this case,

it asserts that among other things you will testify that quote the issue of whether vaccines cause autism has been thoroughly researched and rejected end quote let me ask you do you believe the issue of whether vaccines cause autism has been thoroughly researched and rejected yes sir I do okay you have also repeatedly provided interviews in which you stated categorically that vaccines do not cause autism correct that's correct When you made those statements, did you mean that no vaccines cause autism? That's correct.

So it is your testimony that none of the vaccines that you receive can cause autism. That's correct. Okay. It's your testimony that MMR vaccine cannot cause autism. That's correct. It's your testimony that Head B vaccine cannot cause autism? That's correct. It's your testimony that iPod cannot cause autism?

Yes. It's your testimony that hit vaccine cannot cause autism? Yes. Your testimony that Varicella vaccine cannot cause autism. Yes. It's your testimony that Prevnar vaccine cannot cause autism. Yes. It's your testimony that D-TAP vaccine cannot cause autism?

Yes. And do you have a study that supports a D-TAP doesn't cause autism? I have. I do not have a study that D-TAP caused autism. So I don't have either. Do you have any study one way or another of whether iPol causes autism? No, I do not, sir. Do you have any study one way or another of whether Endrix B causes autism?

I do not have any evidence that it causes autism nor that it does not. And what about Hidtiders vaccine? Any evidence one way or another whether it causes autism? No. What about Prevnor vaccine? Any evidence one way or another? No, sir. And how about Veracela vaccine? Let me just finish.

Are there any studies one way or another that's report whether it does or or doesn't cause autism? Part of MMR, but not as varicella by itself. No, sir. No studies that say it does or no studies that say it doesn't. Right. There have been studies that have found an association between hepatitis B vaccine and autism, correct? Not studies that I feel are credible.

Okay. which study, which study are you referring to when you say that? Well, why don't you show me this study and then I'll see whether I agree with it. Folks, this is a part of you. And there's so many of you that I know are new to this show because of the COVID vaccine. And you're a little bit dismayed at what you just saw take place with the trials of the COVID vaccine. And there's not enough Neil DeGrasse Tyson's in the world to talk you into the fact that they would be a good idea to take it. But I have news for you.

We have done years and years of investigation in the entire vaccine. program and frankly COVID vaccine is one of the best tested. It's a horrible safety test, but that's how these are all done. And what you are seeing is what this really is. What Neil deGrasse Tyson is showing you and the scientists that were appearing in Florida on that panel, which is we have just a simple religion of wishful thinking that exists. I will state that none of these vaccines cause autism, yet I cannot point to a single study that can back up that claim. And by the way, when we have demanded, when every parent of an autistic child has demanded, will you just look in the database? In fact, Bobby Kennedy and I appeared for Donald Trump at the National Institute of Health to have this conversation.

We said to Tony Fauci was sitting right across from me, Francis Collins right across from me, and a whole host of other scientists, will you please just do a retrospective study using your VSD database that has the health records of over 10 million people, tens of thousands of them are unvaccinated. All this has been investigated, just compare the two groups and ask questions like which group the vaccinated or the completely unvaccinated have more autism. And you know what they said? We will never do that study. This is the world as we know it. This is the faith Neil deGrasse Tyson, these other scientists have. It's just faith. It's a religion. And why won't they do that study? Perhaps the best it's ever been stated is why, one of the greatest world-renowned scientists who ran the National Institute of Health for the United States of America.

I'm talking about Bernardine Healy. Before Francis Collins, she was the world-leading scientist running the NIH, and this is what she said honestly about the conversation of vaccines and autism. This is the time when we do have the opportunity to understand whether or not there are susceptible children, perhaps genetically, perhaps they have a metabolic, issue, mitochondrial disorder, immunological issue that makes them more susceptible to vaccines plural or to one particular vaccine or to a component of vaccine like mercury. The fact that there is concern that you don't want to know that susceptible group is a real

disappointment to me. If you know that susceptible group you can save those children. The reason why they didn't want to look for those susceptibility groups was because they They're afraid that if they found them, however big or small they were, that that would scare the public away. It sounds like you don't think the hypothesis of a link between vaccines and autism is completely irrational. So when I first heard about it, I thought, well, that doesn't make sense to me. The more you delve into it, if you look at the basic science, if you look at the research

that's been done in animals, if you also look at some of these individual cases, and if you look at the evidence that there is no link. What I come away with is the question has not been answered. There you have it. There you have it. The question has not been answered by one of the world's leading scientists. They refuse to do the proper studies. Why?

Because they are so petrified that they, even if they see a small group that is having this issue with vaccines, that that will scare the public. I mean, doesn't matter, whatever you think, maybe that's true. Maybe we are so reactive that we would over- react or whatever the concern is, but what she's giving you is the motive for the biggest lie ever told in why science isn't doing its job. They're terrified to do the right job. And now we have seen one of the greatest declines in our children's health ever recorded, especially when it comes to autism. It used to be one in 10,000 were being diagnosed in the 1970s. And because of these

mute scientists that are afraid to look at what they're doing, it has been a 241% increase. And now the CDC admits to one in 44 children. New Jersey has it about 1 in 33 because they track it better, 1 in 35. I'm sorry. And then ultimately, it's four times more prevalent in boys, 4.2 times more prevalent. So that means if you just isolated boys, we are looking at somewhere around 1 in 18 to 1 in 20 are being diagnosed in the United States of America. This is a pandemic. This is one of the worst pandemics that has ever happened.

which is why I am so proud of my next guest that is doing her best to help all of the parents in this country, whether it's you that's out there right now or your brother or your sister or your friend, Warrior Mom is going to be the book that you are going to need, unfortunately. And this is what is being stated in multiple speak engagements by one of the world's greatest Warrior Mom's Tracy Slepsivik. Take a look at this. presenter is a certified integrative health coach, a U.S. Air Force veteran. I'm the proud author of Warrior Mom. Tracy Slapsovic is an Air Force veteran, public speaker, and integrative health coach. We turn to Tracy Slapsovic, author of Warrior Mom and a U.S. Air Force veteran.

Ladies gentlemen, please stand to your feet and great Tracy Subsivik. For about 10 to 12 years, I wanted to write a book on my journey of healing my son. Our son, was diagnosed with autism. I could have wallowed in my own self-pity and played the victim and been like, whoa, it's me, my kids got autism. Or I do exactly what I did, and I stuck the tears back up into my eyes,

and I got to work. I started Googling, because back then, in 2009, when he was diagnosed, you could Google healing autism. And you could get a lot of resources. You got books, resources, nonprofit organizations, some which are still around today. And I just started doing my research. A lot of people were spending thousands of dollars

on attorneys to get 40 hours of ABA. When I was the one who just went and took the classes and bought the books and was like, you know what? I'm gonna learn this myself. They really dove in to address those underlying biological issues so that he could speak and he could function. My main thing is to really just reach as many parents as I can and teach them that healing is possible.

It's my purpose to create awareness and from a complete space of love. All right, the book is Warrior Mom. It is out an e-book just as a couple of days ago so you can get it. You can also order a signed copy. The hard copies are on their way. It is my honor and pleasure to be joined now by Tracy Slepsabic. Thank you. so much for coming in.

Thank you for having me. Finally. I know. We've talked about this. We've been at rallies at the capital in California. We've been at some of the same events, Autism One and things like that. You're kind of everywhere. This is a big passion issue as it is for so many parents that have gone through this experience.

But because we haven't really sort of dove into this conversation, we've been really focused on COVID vaccine for the last couple of years, can you take me back? to your experience of your child and how does it work? I mean, the stories are all unique, yet there are similarities. For you, what did you see in your son that sort of started making you think twice? So every parent's story is different, but a lot of parents are claiming that the MMR is the slow regression. and that was my son's low regression. I can tell you that he had a reaction to every set of vaccines, fever.

He became very colicky after his two-month shots, and Mike had just screamed nonstop. That didn't stop his development. He was fully developed when I took him in for his well-baby visit at one year. And then he received his MMR and Vicella vaccine. Within 24 hours, my son broke out in a full body rash and had a fever for about five days in a very high grade fever. So a new mom, he is my only child, I was so paranoid, and all I ever got from the pediatrician

was this is normal. And what is normal about? To break from a head to toe, body rash, a fever for five days, which if that happened without a vaccine, your doctor would be alarmed in doing something about it. But all the vaccines doing it, oh, this is normal. So this is a common reaction. What she had told me was, oh, he may be allergic to an ingredient in the vaccines, but we'll just keep an eye on it and we'll keep an eye on him.

His fever will eventually go away. They actually eventually had to give him a mild steroid to flush it out of him. But some experts are telling me that he may have had the measles from getting the MMR. And that's what that full body rash is. I'm not 100%. I can't claim that. But soon after, as the months went by, my son at one could walk and talk and play. And he was doing so well.

We actually called him our little monkey, or as my husband says, Mymoon, because it's Serbian for monkey. He would climb everything. And then slowly I started to see him lose his motor skills. no more climbing, a lot of spinning, no more eye contact. He was very closed off. You sent us in some videos. Let's just take a look.

This is just a couple of home movies. This is prior to the vaccine. This is what our son looked like. Hi, Sidney. Walk back and forth. Yay! Rocks, goodbye, me, me. Are you rocking on a horsey byron, maybe for Chris?

So I sure am, Mama. Say Barney. Say Dada. Uh-huh. Say Mama. Mama. Say I like to say Dada. Say buddy.

Buddy. He's like on my own time. Daddy, mommy. On my own time. All right, so that suits the was perfectly normal, looks like most of our kids. And then at three years old, so this is about two years later or so, or a year and a half later, At one. At one.

Soon after he got his MMR and Vicella and then the rash and the fever and everything, there was a slow decline. He went from saying mama, dad-da. He also had baby signs. I took him in, we did baby signs classes so he could do sign language and he lost all of it. Here's just a video at three years old. This is good. Let's show you how you were whining when you were a little kid.

Noah, are you getting tired, sleepy boy? You know, I think people could watch this and say, well, it just looks like a cranky baby. You know, we were watching this, and Catherine Layton, who's my COO, who has been through this experience, said, oh, that high-pitched squeal, I know that well, it's very specific. And was that fairly constant, does those sounds? So the thing is that they're frustrated.

They can't speak. He's three years old. He should be talking in sentences. And he can't. And he can't get those words out. So, of course, they're going to scream. They're going to scream. They're going to tantrum.

They're going to do whatever it is that they have to do to get across their message of frustration. And I never knew because repeatedly I had gone back to the pediatrician who had told me, over and over, it's normal. He just needs speech. It's normal that he lost his speech and regressed into his state of autism, which when I asked her at his three-year visit, is it possible my child could have autism? It is a very hard question for any parent to ask because we just do not want the answer. And she looked me in the eye and was like, nah, he just needs speech. You know, he was spinning her stethoscope round and round and round and round. Repetitive.

It's repetitive play. And she's like, no, kids with autism, don't too pretend play. So as I spoke to so many clinical psychologists afterwards, they're like, that is completely incorrect, and she should have never said that to you. And she should have, you know, referred you to a clinical psychologist. But you know what she did? She blew me off.

And then there I was still wondering what's wrong with her. my kid because we had been through two preschools that are like, I'm sorry, your kids got special needs, we can't care for him. Harbor Regional Center lost our paperwork, was supposed to forward it on to a clinical psychologist, and this is where God sends me angels. So I tell you, no joke, I walked into the office, literally ready to put my head through a wall, and my husband's like, oh, hey, honey, meet our new front desk woman. And I was in tears. I'm in tears. I'm like I'm sorry, you know, I don't want to meet you like this. And she's like, what's wrong?

And lo and behold, this woman had a child with autism. And she worked for us long enough to tell me what to do, where to go, and how to do it. So I ended up going through the school district and getting NOAA evaluated, per her advice me. And when I did that, they did a phenomenal evaluation. I give my hats off to launch preschool and children because they were. were wonderful. And so from there I had answers. You know, they did this free evaluation. They said, I'm sorry, but we do find NOAA is autistic-like,

because that is the term that school districts will use. I took that report. I went back to the Harbor Regional Center. But as soon as I had those answers was when I got to work. And I would not have done that if it wasn't for a very special doctor who intervened in my life. Now here's my number two angel. I go back to the office because I had to go grab something right after the evaluation. In the hallway is Dr. Joshua Burka.

Now he's one of the lead scientists for Beamer. And I was part of the Beamer study back in the day in 2007. So we were really close friends. And he sees me in the hallway. I'm very blubbery. And he's like, what's the matter? He reaches out and gives me a lot. a hug and I said Noah has autism and he looks me down in the eye and he said Noah is going to be okay.

I want you to go home and I want you to do your homework because I truly feel Noah can make a recovery. He said doctors are making great strides with biomedical intervention and I feel like Noah can for someone that's watched this for the first time. What is biomedical information? What does that term mean biomedical. So the way I look at it is finding those underlying conditions. The number one thing I tell parents, find yourself a good functional medicine doctor that treat kids with autism. They don't all treat kids with autism. So I usually refer them to Maps doctor. By the way, you know, we are talking about. We're sort of getting into, you know, your book. And I really loved how it's laid out, you know, because you sort of just have these basic sections.

It's a very easy read. In fact, a very quick read. Most of this book is all the references that you have and places that you can go and what you can do. But for someone that's going through this, this is what they need to know, that there is hope, right? And there are people you can go to.

So you are sent to do an investigation into, you know, this biomedical help. A whole new world for me. So I went home and I started Googling Healing Autism. And I felt at that point, I was at a crossroad in my life. Here is the point in my life where I could be like, woe is me, my kids got autism. Play the victim, feel sorry for me,

or I could suck those tears back up in my eyes and I could get to work. And man, I tell you, you can ask my husband, he didn't see me for a good month. I was reading book after book and doing all this research, but I set a very clear intention that I was gonna heal my child. So the purpose of me writing the book was to give parents and families hope and inspiration

because I knew back then I felt I felt hopeless and lost when I first found out. And I felt alone, even though I have a wonderful husband, I have a great family, and I just, I didn't know who was going to relate with me. So I put my story in there, and it's a story of trials and tribulation. and tribulations, as you already know, my husband fights big insurance for a living and wound up on the front page of the LA Times and a smear campaign because he exposed the insurance companies

and the California State Insurance Commissioner for fraud and collusion. Yeah, that doesn't usually make you, you know, a big hit in newspapers that are funded by insurance companies, and in this case, doctors and things like that. You know, what I love about the book is it's, It's sort of broken into the three sections.

So, folks, you know, you want to get this book. I assure you, you know, you know somebody that you can hand this to. It's such a beautiful read. It's not invasive. But the three sections of the books sort of break down like this. You have part one. It's my journey with no labor of love moving backwards. It's really the story, you know, of what you went through.

And then part two is where to begin, signs and symptoms like you just discussed. There's a lot of different versions of this, but there's similar areas. and things to be looking for so that your doctor's like, oh, that's normal. This book is gonna tell you what really is not normal, and you shouldn't be listening to that. And then you get into the statistics, the schools, all things you can do.

And then finally, part three is all of the different things with healing autism, which is, you know, it's important to have that caveat out there. When you see all that list of things, some things work for some, I mean, my experience. Right. But here's some things work for this child, didn't work for this child,

Or as many autism parents said, if you've met a child with autism, you've met one child with autism. Right. But so, you know, on this journey, what is the, what was the sort of, there's one thing to read and, you know, to say, oh, there are people out there telling stories.

There's doctors saying they can do something. What was the moment of proof? Like, was there one thing that you did where you said, oh my God, that just worked? Diet. Yeah. I have so many parents tell me, I can't afford all these fancy treatments.

And I'm like, well, I couldn't either. We lost our business, our house went into foreclosure. I bartered for treatments. But diet, really, because there's the gut brain connection. This is your number one brain actually. And your nervous system is connected from your gut to your brain. And if this is messed up in any way, which I'm I know Noah was because he was put on antibiotics every month for ear infections.

Hyperbaric was really good, but you have to be very cautious. My kid had tubes in his ears. He didn't need to learn how to clear his ears. So that's a very important thing. They can't clear their ears. Let's talk about the diet for a second because this is a huge component. When we're out there, for parents they're out there, that maybe you're already, like, I just need to get started.

I'll order the book. I'm sure they're feeling right now, but let's talk about Dr. Andrew Wakefield just for a second. Because, I mean, this is the big baddie of the vaccines. A lot of people would say he's the godfather of the, you know, the anti-vaxors. But all he ever did, he was a gastroenterologist that did the first study of 12 kids, tiny little, you know, just is there an issue here because a mother said your work on Crohn's disease is reminding me of the issue I'm having with my child, my child has autism. He says, well, I don't know anything about autism, but I do you know Crohn's disease. So he started the investigation and found that there was a connection between the gut health,

which did look like a form of Crohn's disease, either, you know, diarrhea that was like chlorox burning the skin off of the children or a constipation that could last for weeks. And in that investigation of those kids, what he, and by the way, you know, 12 world-renowned scientists all concluded, as there appears to be a real connection between what we thought was just a psychological issue, right, or some sort of neurological disorder, but it actually may be a gut disease. We can't tell which is coming first. Is the gut coming from the brain or is the gut causing the brain issues, but there is clearly a connection?

Of course, his license is stripped, he's attacked, and just to sort of sum all this up, because I've done some investigation to this, Really incredible studies done in Arizona University, in California universities, looking at gut biome. Studies like taking, you know, the fecal matter of an autistic child putting it in a mouse, and the mouse develops autistic tendencies. And what they discovered was the more severe the autism, the more severe the autism in the mouse that they put it in. All sorts of things like that. And every time I see these breaking headlines, I just think,

The headline should say Andrew Wakefield was right, because that's all he said. He never made the statement with his first study, the Lancet study, vaccines are causing autism. He says, that can't be determined here, but more studies should be done on that. But what I can say is there does seem to be a gut biome connection to this disorder. And lo and behold, there's a lot of science now backing it up. Yes. And Andy is my hero. I absolutely, I have so much.

respect for Dr. Wakefield and everything that he's done to protect our kids he's put his neck out there on the line he forked up his medical license he did not do the puppet show like he was asked to do to get his license back he said you know within all good consciousness I cannot recommend that you get all these vaccines the MMR all at once he never said at that that time don't vaccinate. He just said don't get them all at once. And so I did write a piece in the vaccine section of my book. Now when you go into the vaccine section of my book, I give you a lot of history and vaccines and I paint a picture and then I do talk about Dr. Wakefield's journey and everything that he's done. But the best book in

regards to the link between autism and vaccines is how to end the autism epidemic by jb hannley and you had a incredible yeah um that book is amazing so for those parents in family members or anybody who is looking for for for that book that has that i would say before you have before you have your child if you really want to ask the question what's going on here that is a brilliant book, if you are finding yourself in the situation where you are seeing reactions that aren't making sense, you feel like you're losing connection with your child, this is why you need to get on this immediately. So, you know, you go through and there's all sorts of treatments, you know, which is why the book is here. People can read the book. What do you believe, what is your

belief about what autism is now with all of the research? that you've done. How would you describe it to somebody? Because I feel like science, we were told it's always been here. We're just diagnosing it better. Mark Blacksville has a brilliant book denial that just rips that concept to shreds, going back historically. Really, it's always been here. In Egypt, it was 1 in 44. You know, back when, you know, you had Charcot and Tourette's going into every insane asylum there was to describe the maladies. There's no description of autism in there. And you would imagine it was difficult back in those times, early, you know, over the last century or back, you would have just put your kid right into it and insane asylum because it's not, they're doing these repetitive disorders,

they're not speaking. And yet none of these guys, none of the greatest diagnosticians in the world ever described this thing. So that has slowly fallen apart. In fact, we were looking into it. I was like, show me where they're saying that. They're not saying that anymore. Now they're saying, well, it's partly genetic. It's partly environmental.

It's partly, you know, that's kind of where there's. this thing is like in this gray area, but for you, what do you think it is? So you can have a genetic predisposition for anything, right? You can have that cancer gene, whatever, and the chances of you actually getting a gene from your parent, as doctors don't typically say, is only about 3%. So environmental, it's going to take an environmental factor to trigger that genetic predisposition. So even in cancer, there's so many environmental triggers these days. But in autism, do I personally feel, and this is my personal opinion, I am not a doctor

by any means. I've worked with some great doctors. Do I feel that vaccine slung shot my kid into regression, as they would call regressive autism, which is just another label? But there's this broad spectrum and they're all unique and they're all their own beautiful, wonderful human beings and they all got their own very good contribution that they give to society. But really, I truly believe just how J.B. said it in this book, it is an epidemic.

And every time the number of vaccines on the childhood vaccines. the vaccine schedule went up, then the rate of autism went up with it. And if you asked me as a parent, the reason I wasn't so sure what was going on with my kid is because my idea of autism was Dustin Hoffman's character in the Rain Man. I didn't see Noah like that.

He was a little more high functioning than that. And, you know, so I couldn't understand it and I couldn't put it together. But is it because they're just better testing for it, that's a crock. That's, that, I don't believe that at all. And you know, maybe they should better test the vaccines and do an actual placebo study. That'd be great.

That'd be great. I'm not, I wouldn't be anti-vax. I would, I'm just pro-health. Why can't they just call us pro-healthers? Because we would be fine with a safe vaccine if they actually were. In fact, I mean, just so let's talk about that for a second, because it really bothers me when, and by, you know, when they sort of shut down all these parents saying, oh, you're anti-vax, every parent that is claiming they're seeing autism in their child was at one point totally pro-vaccing. That's why they're in that issue, right? That's why that is happening.

So obviously you're pro-vaxed, and you have a military background, right? So I stood in line. I got, it was probably around, you know, today it's 13. 13 vaccinations. You know, you stand in line and you just go from one to another to another. And every year I got the flu shot, I got the flu, worse than I had ever gotten it before. And one year I questioned my supervisor when she told me to go get my flu shot. I said, well, I keep getting the flu.

I don't understand. It doesn't work. And I got written up. So I was not to question it. But then I was programmed to believe that. this is what was keeping me safe. And, you know, they dump vaccines into our poor military. And they're getting sick.

I was on the phone with a doctor last night. And I was listening to his story. Now he's reached out to me since my e-book came out. And he was in the military for eight years. And he had to go on a mission. They gave him his set of vaccines. The next morning, he woke up and he was paralyzed. he cannot walk.

Wow. And I think God, every day, this did not happen to my child. Yeah. Or me, for that matter. I'm truly grateful that Noah was able to respond to biomedical. Not every child does. You know, there are so many parents, they throw everything at their kid, but the kitchens think to try to get them better.

and they still can't speak or even J.B. Hanley, he's gone the distance. He has. And he wrote the S2C portion in my book because I didn't know a lot about S2C. In fact, we were talking right as you were finishing up this book, the S2C, which is spelling to communicate, which J.B. We had J.B. on the show, a spectacular interview, if anyone hasn't seen it, look up the J.B. Hanley interview where his son is nonverbal until I think about 18 years old, gets into spelling to communicate and through, you know, apparatus and mechanism and the whole approach,

go watch the show, he finally gets to start talking to his father and his family. Yeah, the video is actually when you go to his book, he uploaded the video for where you purchase this book online. He has your video on there. It's really amazing. I want people to read this book, so I don't want to go through every part of it. It is so beautifully written. It's heartfelt, it's easy to read.

But you said something. You said when I finally realized what it was, I just went to Google and typed in Healing Autism. Is that all you have to do now? No, you can't do it anymore. So the Internet's been scrubbed when it comes to healing in the word autism, you put those two words together. You know, they're going to start bashing you or Andy or whatever,

saying the anti-vaxxers of the world are saying this and back then I could so what I'm really focusing my attention on is building out my website warrior mom.org so I can have as many resources as possible for parents now it's not there yet it's almost there we're getting there and so I can give that because I couldn't fit everything in a book honestly I really can't I meet new people new organizations that are just phenomenal and they're doing their due diligence for people in all different kinds of new treatments. You contacted me right before I turned everything into my publisher and you're like, there's

this EE system. Right, right, right, yeah. So I was able to reach out to Dr. Sanjo-Ros-Michaels and, you know, she endorsed my book as well and I did a little research. So I have to, I'm not just going to put something like that in my book. I did a lot of research. I watched all the different videos. She has a lot of scientific studies on this system and, you know, with kids with autism,

and it making such a huge difference. Well, you've been through this journey, and I think the most important part is that, that you used to be able to Google these things. You know, we had an internet that was doing what it was supposed to do, allowing one parent to write a book, one parent to say this is working for me. And one of the tragic moments is Adam Schiff, I remember, went and, you know, around this conversation, said to Facebook and YouTube and all the sent a letter, take down all these conversations about the dangers of vaccines,

and any book and, you know, went to Amazon, stop from one of these books that say that you can heal vaccine injury or autism. I mean, it's so sick. It's so twisted. these parents are out there. The doctors don't know what they're talking about. They mislead you and say this is normal as your child has plunged deeper and deeper into the issues.

I want to be clear. I don't think vaccines are the only cause of autism. I think, you know, when we look at it, you know, there is, it seems to be a toxic load that these children are having trouble detoxing the way other kids can. Why your kid and not my kid, well, some kids can detox really well. Others can't. And if it's building up,

There's going to be that final insult or several of them that can drive them. And this, it could be I've had stories of a fluorescent light bulb falling and smashing on the floor, and the people lose their child after that. So there's multiple environmental toxicities that are happening. But the fact that parents can't talk to each other the way they did, that doctors that are finding treatments have to hide and be quiet about it. There are treatments that parents are worried their child would be taken away for using them. this whole thing, the whole experience of an autism parent makes you the most

spectacular individuals, those of you that have gotten through it. You're lied to, you watch the destruction of your healthy child, you're told you're crazy when you start really demanding saying I want to do something about it, I know what I'm seeing, and then when you start doing that work you're attacked for doing it and now you have our own government trying to make sure that you can't talk to each other. This is one of the biggest tragedies and I will never stop talking about about this conversation. And I am truly grateful.

I really am, because there are so many parents out there. I had dinner with a very dear friend of mine last night or the night before. And her son was normal functioning. He was doing so great. And then all of a sudden he couldn't walk and he couldn't function and his motor skills just literally plummeted.

And then they're putting them on mild chemo treatments and this. And I'm like, oh my goodness. And of course, her ex is a doctor, so that doesn't help. So it's working against her. And I just, I see the sadness in her and how tired she is.

Because, so the number one thing I tell parents, take care of yourself, please. I mean, if we're not 100%, then we can't help our children. And I was told a few doctor's visits ago as I'm sitting in the doctor's office and I'm like, oh, but Steve needs this and no one needs this. And she said, Tracy, I know what your problem is. And I'm like what? And she said, you need to take care of you and let this visit me about you. So I get it.

I need to take my own advice at times. But it is really, you know, parents need to pick up books. people need to pick up books. You can't get any information if you want the truth. People are forced to write books anymore. I never at a million years saw myself writing a book. I mean, I always wanted to tell my story to help other parents. And it just, you know, I just never got to it.

Obviously, I was busy getting a PhD and how to heal my kids. Right, right. And organizations, they're good and then they're bad, and so you have to watch out for them. I just got fired from being a parent mentor for networking at a conference. I'm like... You're amazing. And I'm glad you finally got around to writing the book. It's going to be a huge difference maker.

As we said, we were talking, you know, one in 35 children being diagnosed. Boys, it's even more prevalent. This is one of the great epidemics of our lifetime. It needs to be stopped. It can be stopped. But while we're working on that, making the lives of these children happier, healthier is so critical. And I just love that you're out there doing that work. And I want to thank you for coming into sharing yourself and your story and this book with us.

And I thank you. I'm truly grateful. My son wanted me to say one thing to the public. Please. And that's to find that special thing in your child and just love on them and appreciate them because they all have so much to contribute. And autism is not the end-all be-all. And I don't claim in my book to cure autism.

I healed the underlying conditions that, you know, caused my son's autism as to where he could function again. Autism is still part of his life. He's very much honors that. And I am so grateful to you, to Dr. Andrew Wakefield, for not just writing my foreword, but for standing up. And all the doctors, all of them. My doctor, Dr. Rachel West, she's so phenomenal.

She's a sitfire, and I love her, and all her education. But all the doctors who are putting their necks out there to... Yeah, and they are. They're putting the necks out there to do this very important work for a massive exploding population. But I feel God is leading us in the right direction, and I truly believe as angels will watch over us and protect us on our journey. And, you know, I always say if you believe it to be true, that's the first tackle and then just leave the rest up to God.

Amen. Thank you for joining us, Tracy. Thank you so much. Really great. The book is Warrior Mom. Don't miss it. Even if you think, well, I mean, that's not my issue. Thank God. Say a prayer tonight. Thank God that this isn't something you've had to go through. But I know you know somebody that is, and this is a very gentle way to approach the conversation. It's going to be so helpful for so many parents out there around the world. So warrior mom, go ahead and order your copy, get it right away. For those, you know, we are showing you the work that we're doing from the scientists that seem to be reading clip notes or part of a religion where they're not doing proper investigations to the parents.

The reality is what we're seeing, the actual injuries they're being, you know, are appearing here. All of this, all of this is made possible because you make it possible. And every once in a while, we should really give ourselves a pat on the back from me. making all this happen, for creating a space where truth could be heard. I want to thank all of you out there. And let's just have a little moment to shout out for High Wire in the work that's being done. The Inform Consent Action Network. You know them as I Can. The High Wire and I Can fighting on your behalf. The High Wire, you know Del Big Trick. Thank you to all the individuals who are watching

on the High Wire across the world. Without further ado from the High Wire, friend of mine, a friend of yours, Mr. Del Bigtree. We did it! Here we are present and accounted for. You were at The Doctor's Show. You were being forbidden to talk about what you were seeing and what you knew needed to be talked about. So you went out and created the High Wire. Wherever you are out there in the world.

How about we all step out onto the High Wire? When the whole pandemic stopped, this was really where I got my knowledge from. I saw all the scientists, all the doctors. Religiously, every Thursday, we need that encouragement from each other. You allowed a lot of us to take that dive into the science and really get immersed in it. So thank you. This is why I love watching your show. This is why I love watching you.

It's a comprehensive overview, but it's also built and supported with detail and with evidence. CNN and Anderson Cooper has been reaching out to us and all the other mainstream guys. I need to share my side of the story and I know that there's only one person who's going to do it right and that's Del Big Tree. You guys are the mainstream media now. They're done and dead. It's over. The media like the Highwire in Del Big Tree not only reporting the truth every week, but also fighting in court for justice. I think what we have in common is the passion for the truth, right? I see you as somebody who's investigating, you know, what are the real facts and data. You are one of the beacons for all of us.

When things get really dark, I turn on the eye wear. It lifts me back up every time. Del, your confidence is so inspiring. Thank you for doing all that you do, fighting the good fight. Del, I really appreciate your hard work and you team. Thank you for giving us a voice. I appreciate you so much. It's an honor to be here, thank you.

What can we create when we connect together? Good to be with you, Dill. You too, brother. Thank you for your continued support and your friendship, Del. We're just grateful for the chance to talk to you and for your support and interest in our latest declaration. It's great to be on your show and thank you for everything you've been doing in terms of providing the truth to people regarding COVID and the vaccines. You've been in a war zone of your own.

It's a really lethal war zone, right? When you get into the realm of big farmer and all that money, that is at stake there, all the power players. This is a war for survival. Survival of the soul of humanity. Ultimately, it's going to have to take people ready to sacrifice everything in order to bring the truth to the world. I've been one of the silent people with injured children who have hidden. behind you, rooting you on for years, and it's time that I stand beside you. We're standing up and we're fighting for you. We're fighting for those who cannot fight for

themselves. That is what the truth is all about. That is what being alive is all about. And that's what the high wire is about. I'll see you next week. I just want to thank my team for making this incredible experience of the high wire possible for me and all of you out there. Thank you for all of your support. Look, every week now, we're interviewing people, and it's all about community. Whether you've been injured by a vaccine, there's a community there, whether you have a child with autism, there's a community there. If you worried about censorship, there's a community there. It's all about building community, and part of what I'm doing to make that happen is I go out and I speak live.

And it's a very, if you can tell, like, when I'm live, you always like see me all, like, fire it up in those videos. I get pretty fired up, and I want you to have the opportunity to come check that out. So as I promised last week, every week, I'm going to tell you where I'm going to be next. Here is where I'm next. Dell is speaking, January 18th, the greater reset in Mexico, the greater reset.org. Then January 22nd, Restore Freedom Rally in Orlando, Florida, restore freedomrally.org. Then on the 25th of January, the 2023 Freedom Fight in Austin, Texas at the Texans for Vaccinechoice.com. Check out where that's going to be.

Anarkapoko is coming up in February back down in Mexico with an amazing. group of speakers out there to narcapulco.com. And then Conscious Life Expo in Los Angeles. Consciouslifeexpo.com. I'm getting all over. Come out, see me, say hi, and show me how you highwire. Okay, one of those great events is coming up right now, the Restore Freedom Rally, and I'm joined right now by Paymon Matahade.

Did I get that right, Paymond? Is that close enough? Close enough, Doug. You can call me Paymon. All right. Hey, Mom. Tell me about this event. Is it still open to the public? Yes, it is. Okay. What do we expect to see there? Is it a line of speakers? And why are you putting events like this on? What is the goal? Well, I'm immigrant from Iran of Jewish descent. From a country where we had basically very little freedoms. No freedom of speech. You could.

could not criticize the government. It could be put in jail and tortured for simply air and out some problems with the government. Right. So when I came to America at age 14 in the land of the free home of the brave, the greatest country ever, in my opinion, ever existed, I was surprised that, you know, this is not as free as it was advertised to be. on television that I saw in Iran, and when I read about the America and the Westerns. So when I became an American citizen in 1989, at age of 26,

I became immediately a Libertarian Party activist to do my part in restoring freedom in America. And since 1999, three years after I have, I started Freedom Law School, I have put on annual freedom rallies most of those years. And what I've done is amongst everything else that I do, I bring experts from important areas about truth, health, freedom, things that really affect America's lives, our families. I bring the speakers together like we have right now this event, 14 great speakers like yourself. Yeah. Because people need to be informed and empowered to be able to take action to do something about it.

One of the things happened to me, Dale, is I got tired of a lot of what I call meat, eat and retreat. meetings where we spoke about the problems, but there was not much solutions besides voting for better people in office, which does not seem to work on, fortunately. And so that's what I've kept this going on for the last 27 years. I've been teaching Americans about the law, the U.S. Constitution, their rights. You know, we're not taught these things in high school or university. when I went to university, Dale, I had two business law classes during my studies of business, but yet I knew zero about the U.S. Constitution,

are God-given rights and how to defend them. So when I heard about the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence, all these things, I thought, wow, look at this. rich not just history but these documents that guarantee our freedom are god-given rights that were not taught all we have to do is plug it in and start exercising right to bear arms right to jury trial by you know jury of your peers right to due process these are such incredible rights guaranteed to every American through the U.S. Constitution that we need to use these things, not just speech and press assembly, but all these things. So that's what got me the impetus to

get going in for over 30 years, been a freedom activist. Well, I am so happy that you've invited me to be a part of that quest to help people, you know, find all the tools that are are available, the tools, especially being our own constitutions and Declaration of Independence here in the United States of America. It's an amazing lineup. I'm looking forward to it. Everybody check out Restore Freedom Rally. If you're anywhere in the Orlando area, we will be there.

Go to restoref freedom rally.org to sign up and get involved. Paymond, I want to thank you for your dedication to truth and freedom, and I look forward to getting to talk to you about it more in person just next week. I think it's the end of next week. You're there. Thank you for having Medell. Absolutely. Take care. All right. So to wrap this all up, look, I mean, I've talked about how the fact that I'm politically marooned. And one of the things that really bothers me is when I started realizing that the way I was raised, you know, I hate saying, you know, Democrat, Republican, but one of the ideas that people are too stupid to govern themselves. You're just too stupid. Therefore, the government has to do everything for you. I used to be offended by this idea that, you know, it was like a sugar. mom or a sugar daddy that was taking care of the planet. We're all like going to let the government do the work. But in the end, I'm starting to see it more like that. And you see how they do look at us. I mean, look at how the government handled us during COVID. If you've seen the movie idiocry,

it was just like waking up and thinking, am I surrounded? Certain they think we are just a pile of morons. Look at how they try to push out the vaccine. Look at this. The rule is very simple. Get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do. Washington, D.C. locals had an extra incentive to get a COVID-19 vaccine on Tuesday. Activists staged a Joints for Jabs campaign, giving anyone who'd been inoculated free weed. Nashville residents who are fully vaccinated now have a chance to enjoy a free beer or a cup of coffee. That's one of the many perks being offered to encourage people to get vaccinated. Did you say free fries when you get vaccinated? I got vaccinated. I got vaccinated.

You're saying I could get this, you delicious fry. My mat. But there's also a burger element to this. The state of Utah is considering a sweepstake style cash giveaway to some lucky recipients of the COVID-19 vaccine. And it would be an unprecedented move in a state that prohibits lotteries and all forms of gambling. There is no amount of money that that is too much to help us get an extra five. or 10% of people vaccinated. We will announce the winner of a drawing

of all those 17-year-olds under who have been vaccinated, and the winner, the winner, will receive a full four-year scholarship to any one of our state universities. This will include tuition, room and board, and books. Today, thanks to our incredible partners here at Six Flags Great America, America. We offer our latest summer fun award for getting vaccinated. The park is dedicating 50,000 free tickets to help encourage vaccinations in the region. That's a $200 value. We're calling this one Vax and Visit for every New Jersey who has at

least their first shot by July 4th is that is eligible to receive a a free season state parks, VACs pass, good for entrance at any one of our state parks for the rest of the 2021 season. We will announce a winner of a separate drawing for adults, adults who have received at least their first dose of the vaccine. And the winner each Wednesday will receive $1 million. It's VAC said or masked. Get vaccinated.

If you're just a little bit hesitant, or you just were unwilling in the past, but all of a sudden you think, wait a second, I can really use $50,000, just get that vaccine. You've got to vax for the win because you're going to protect yourself, protect your communion. Guess what? You might have a chance of winning great prize. If this is appealing to you, just think of this when you think of vaccination. Mmm, vaccination. I'm getting a very good feeling about vaccination rate this moment. Oh, okay. Well, I guess I did sign a social contract anyway, and I can get some free fries.

It didn't work. It was stupid. It was stupid. They were stupid. We're not stupid. And by the way, I'm not handing my life to any of those fools. And there's a study that just came out. I believe it's out of Ohio. This is by the Journal of the American I can't read this. Board of Family Medicine. Financial incentives are associated with lower likelihood of COVID-19 vaccination in Northeast Ohio. This is hysterical. They looked into it, and this is what they found out. The 471 participants surveyed 0.95% reported that the Ohio Vax, a million lottery, increased their vaccination likelihood, while nearly 30% reported that it decreased their likelihood. 6.8% responders reported the $100 incentive increased their vaccination likelihood, while 17.4% reported to decrease their vaccination chances.

That was the best they had. That's how they see us. We need to get some new people in office. We need leaders that see us as human beings, intelligent beings, capable of making good decisions, trusting those decisions. I heard they want to ban gas stoves now for all of you chefs out there. Trust me, I'm going to fight for that too because I like to cook, and I'm not just letting that happen.

But it's these types of things, put a label on it. You want to, like, go ahead and say, you know, we think this is dangerous or whatever it is. But stop mandating this stuff. Stop having lottery tickets and trying to coerce me into something that hasn't been properly tested, only to see all the devastation that's left behind. We are fighting all of this stupidity and we're fighting for real for the military. I want to announce there's a huge breakthrough just this week, the Pentagon now announcing officially. I think after all the attacks from multiple law firms, not just Aaron Syrian Glimstad,

they are now declaring that the mandate for the military, is over, Pentagon drops the COVID-19 vaccine mandate for troops. So we should all say a hip-hip, hooray. Obviously, the government realized they have lost this battle. And so to finish out, I want to thank you all for joining us for another spectacular episode of the High Wire. Definitely go out and check out this book, Warrior Mom and Neil. I got a beer waiting for you, an intelligent and fun conversation.

I know you're a good person. I know you mean well. you think you know that you're right, I do too. So why don't we put all the chips on the table and see who wins the poker game. I'll see you here on the high wire. All of you, keep up your diligence, recognize how dynamic and spectacular you are. I know how smart you are, and I'm going to continue to treat you like that with some of the best information that we can find in this crazy world. So until next week, I'll see you on the high wire.