The Highwire with Del Bigtree - UNVAXXED WOMAN DENIED TRANSPLANT WINS FIGHT OF HER LIFE
Episode Date: August 7, 2022In 2021, Leilani Lutali was denied a life saving kidney transplant by a Colorado hospital for her vaccination status. Watch the tearful follow-up to this life or death story as she and her donor rejoi...n Del.#KidneyDonor #TransplantDenied #LeilaniLutaliBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.
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When you think of those that were hanging in the balance, when they were pushing this agenda, this dangerous agenda, vaccinating when they never did the proper safety studies or any of those things.
So many people's lives were hanging in the balance.
We talked about the jobs that were lost and, you know, the economy that was destroyed and our poor kids wearing masks.
But there's been an issue we've covered so many times, which is what about those people that do need to get into a hospital, that do need life-saving interventions.
Yet this vaccination is getting in the way.
Of course, I've talked about those that needed heart transplant, I mean, you know, liver transplants and kidney transplants.
Hospital system says it will deny transplants to the unvaccinated in almost all situations.
The Washington Post was bragging back in October 6th of 2021.
Well, one of those stories was on our show.
I'm talking about Lelani who found Jamie.
Laylani who needed this transplant.
She was not vaccinated because she had a kidney issue.
She also had a religious belief that she didn't want to deal with.
boarded field cell lines being used to develop these vaccines, but she found her own donor who
also was unvaccinated. They were ready to go. But then the hospital said, nope, I'm sorry,
you're going to die because you won't get a vaccine for what we're calling a deadly virus.
Made no sense then. Doesn't make sense now. But for those of you that missed it, this is what
that story was about. I was diagnosed January of 2020 with stage four kidney disease.
was a little bit of a surprise because I don't know what happened to stages one, two, and three.
If you're on a list for a transplant and you're waiting for years, dialysis can keep you alive.
But once you've had dialysis, it also kind of shortens up the number of years that you live.
I met with the transplant team to discuss what my options would be with them.
And after a month of testing, I was then accepted to the transplant program.
What happens if you don't get a transplant or do dialysis?
Death is certain.
is 100% certain.
So Laylani and I met in January of this year.
We started a Bible study.
So it's about the end of July that Laylani announced
she had been approved for the transplant list.
And I said, what's the link to sign up?
And I signed up that day to be a donor for her.
I went over to the hospital, had the blood work done.
I got the call saying, hey, we got your test results back.
Everything looks awesome.
And it looks like you know, you could be the potential.
potential donor for her.
And I said, awesome.
I said, what's next?
What do we do next?
You know?
And then she says, have you been vaccinated for COVID-19?
And I said, actually, no, I haven't.
And I can't because of my religious beliefs on the vaccine.
And she said, oh, well, then your journey ends here.
And I said, what do you mean?
She said, well, we now require our donors to be vaccinated.
She says, we require our recipients to be vaccinated.
be vaccinated as well. So both of you will have to be vaccinated in order to continue this process.
I got the news at that point that they weren't going to move forward. And I think it was an
utter shock. I had not been vaccinated for COVID because of my faith belief about the sanctity of
life. I knew that fetal cell tissues lines had been used to develop and test the vaccine.
And those were taken from aborted fetuses.
I have to be honest, I ask myself, would I, would I give up my beliefs to get some extended life?
And because of my faith, I just could not find a way to go forward knowing what I know.
This decision really comes down to a life or death decision.
But don't let the tears make someone think that there's no peace because I have peace in my decision.
Even if I don't get help, my prayers that others can get help.
This is a life and death decision for you.
What does it finally come down to for you?
As I looked around and I see people losing their jobs, their livelihoods,
as I see parents coming forth saying, my eight-year-old has just been removed from the transplant list.
And they're already on dialysis.
So if there's nothing past dialysis, that child will die.
I couldn't stay quiet any longer.
I had to come forth.
We're people.
We're not ideologies.
We're not some random thought.
Anti-vaxxers.
We're humans.
Here in Texas, we saw a headline in the newspapers.
This is what it said.
Texas welcomes patients denied life-saving organ transplants
in Colorado because of COVID vaccination status.
They're really hospitals in Texas that are looking into this?
Those words are sincere.
We have several hospitals in the great state of Texas that are offering to do the transplant.
We've begun the transplant application process and hopefully we'll have an answer here soon.
There's such an amazing story of faith and conviction while so many of us were having to ask questions,
am I just going to get the vaccine so I can go to work.
Can you imagine the question, am I going to just get the vaccine so that I can survive?
but we have an update I'm told and so I'm joined right now by Laylan and Jamie so
Leilani Jamie tell me where you're at right now and what's what's the update
we're alive okay I can see that and we're here at the twice bless house which is a
housing medical center for transplant patients and so we had our surgery last Tuesday and
And I came skidding in with about five kidney.
And today I sit at 69% of my kidney function,
which is in the normal.
Yeah, so it's awesome.
Wow, congratulations.
So you're in Dallas, you just had surgery.
You know, Jamie, it's always amazing to see people
that are willing to sort of give a part of them
But this has been an especially, you know, it's one thing to make the decision, but to go through this journey with Lailani and how difficult has been.
How do you feel now that you're finally through it and there's been success?
Dahl, I feel so blessed.
We have been through the ringer over the last several months, just trying to get to transplant.
but every step of the way God has been extremely faithful in walking with us through this journey.
And we're just so amazed that we're on the other side of this and just able to give him glory for
where we're at today.
I know one of the questions is, you know, when people are going through these, you know, should I be
public about it? Does that make my situation worse?
You know, we weren't the only, I know mainstream media didn't really cover your story,
but you did, you know, go on several sort of alternate media spaces, including the high,
wire. Do you feel like that had any effect on, you know, your ability to find a hospital
and get to this final result?
You know, I think there probably was some added effect, but we, this was a lone journey.
I think there's so many people out there trying to figure out what to do, how do you go about
getting to another hospital. We've heard repeated stories of hospitals actually denying transplants
and then on top of it, not providing a referral for those patients to go elsewhere.
And I'm so thankful that Jamie and I are just stubborn cusses because once I was told no,
I wasn't going to take a no.
And I started looking for myself.
And it really came down to, I need to value my life.
And so I needed to be my own advocate.
And God gave me Jamie another warrior to stand beside me.
and we went out and did our research and looked around and made endless phone calls and decided for myself that Texas is going to be the best spot for me to come.
When you finally got in to the hospital in Texas, was there any talk of the vaccine issue?
Was it just not on the table?
How different was it from your experience in Colorado?
Very different.
Actually, I started first with Medical City in Fort Worth.
was introduced to a surgeon there, a transplant surgeon,
from a connection that I have on LinkedIn.
And when we met with them, you know,
I'd ask the surgeon, but the philosophy was around the vaccine.
And he said, you know, we highly recommend it,
but it's your choice.
That's a decision you have to make.
And that's all I needed to hear was that it was my choice,
not their choice.
So we started initially down that path with Medical City.
and there were some circumstances that happened where Jamie had some complications in terms of how her kidneys are made up,
that we weren't able to ultimately go to Medical City, which is what took us ultimately to Baylor.
And Baylor was fantastic.
On my side of it, you know, they asked had you had COVID,
and I actually just recently had COVID this past January, and he says, oh, well, you have natural antibodies.
That's all you need.
And there was no other further discussion about COVID or the vaccine at all.
The same for me. I was never, I actually was never asked whether I was vaccinated or not.
One of the nurse practitioners had asked me if I had COVID and I said yes. In fact, I had gotten
an antibody study done before I came to Texas and I had my first and only case of COVID,
July of 2020. And back in February, this past February, before we came down to Medical City,
I have that antibody test done and I'm still kicking strong and healthy with those antibodies in me.
I'll say, Lailani, you look fantastic.
I mean, you know...
I feel a thousand times better.
I mean, you do.
Jamie, it must be amazing to just, you've been around her so much.
I mean, to just watch that life force and it truly is.
I mean, you know, it's one of the things I want to make clear because, you know, I get attacked from being anti-science, anti-medicine.
What just happened? This surgery you just got truly is the miracle of medicine.
There are so many great doctors and great scientists that are out there.
We just reported earlier scientists that are leaving the CDC, leaving the FDA because they're so tired of the lies and the deceit, the lack of transparency, the lack of good science.
But it's so important that we remember when we allow these doctors to do their job, and we don't get the government forcing upon them.
And I wonder how many doctors in Colorado
that are having to tell you you need that vaccine.
Don't want to have to say that.
Don't want that to be the policy.
And as we sit here in the United States of America,
it's like two different worlds, it seems.
For you, in one hospital,
it's like the world's going to come to an end
if you didn't get the vaccine.
And in the same country, just across, you know, a state line,
you have a hospital's like,
oh, we don't care if you want to tell us, great.
But, you know, you're free to make the decision on your own.
what do you think, you know, just when you think about the repercussions of this nation,
what has to happen? What type of healing beyond the physical healing you're going to have?
Do you think about what we need to do to start sort of being more open with each other
and moving to a better place?
Well, first and foremost, Jamie and I both feel like we've been allowed this experience
so that we can continue forward helping guide and direct others.
in our sphere of influence, telling our story,
being encouraging.
We've created a Facebook group on Facebook called
Medical Mandates, Are You Kidney Me?
And we've had a number of people join that
with their own stories similar to ours across the states.
And so people are sharing information.
People are saying, hey, if you can't get it here,
here are some states around you that you should explain.
So I think being willing to tell the story.
There's a scripture that I love out of revelation that says that we overcome by the power of our testimony.
And so it's the storytelling.
You know, as a Polynesian, we're storytellers.
And I think when we share with one another hope and joy and encouragement, it takes light and it puts it into the darkness and
it obliterates it. And so just I think be an advocate also for yourself. Do the reading,
research. Stop, stop relying on others always to do for you what you should do for yourself.
I think that's been an encouragement that we've been giving to people. If you're told no,
go away from the no. Go find your yes. And so I think just on a practical
everyday level that we share the story, we get information out, we provide resources,
people such as yourself are telling the truth, you know, other people that have come
around us continue to tell the truth and stand bold and courageous in that truth, I think
is super important. And I think as we've seen over this past three years, you know, there's
a weariness that has set in on our nation because I think even those who had believed
that it was important to get a vaccine are now at a place where there's huge buyers remorse for many people.
And I think there's a light that's starting to turn on for a lot of people who are saying, wow, what did I do?
You know, I trusted.
And I think you always have to test all things and ask yourself, is this truth or is this propaganda?
And we've been fed a lot of propaganda over the last three years.
Indeed. Jamie, did you ever lose faith? Joy's feel like this would be the outcome?
Well, you know, when we found out I had three vessels on my left kidney, which made that kidney not transplantable.
And Medical City had turned us down for that, you know, for about, I said I had about a 12-minute tantrum
where I thought, what are you doing here, Lord, because I don't know what I don't understand.
And then God came through.
He pointed us in the direction of Baylor and Baylor said,
that's fine, we'll take your right kidney.
Your right kidney is perfect.
So, you know, I had about 12 minutes of lack of faith, I think,
in frustration where I thought maybe this isn't the path we're supposed to be on.
And God said, no, I'm just moving you somewhere else.
And as soon as I gave up my kicking and screaming,
throwing water bottles across the room. I saw God work. And I said, if you want to see God work,
just get out of the way and hang on. And we held on and here we are. Well, it's so great to see you.
You seem so happy for all the right reasons. And I love your message. You know, we're here.
We're not, you know, we don't have control of how this all turns out. But what we can is we can testify to
the truth. We can keep speaking to the truth and push that light into the darkness. And that's how
get through this as you've come through this incredible journey your story really is i believe a metaphor for
all of us that there is light at the end of this if we are not afraid to stand in our truth and
nothing represents that better than the two of you standing in your faith standing in truth with
literally life hanging the balance it's an honor to know you and i want to thank you for taking the
time to continue to share your story with us thank you so much dell and all glory to god
all glory to god amen thanks for time
Ruth and share in our story.
You bet. You guys take care.
