The Highwire with Del Bigtree - W.H.O. IS IN CHARGE?

Episode Date: May 20, 2022

Biden’s Disinfo Board Dissolved; Fauci Gaslighting Again; FDA OK’s Shot for 5-11 yr olds; Vax’d Pilot Collapses After Flight; The W.H.O. Pandemic Treaty, and The Better WayGuests: Bob Snow, Josh Yoder, Tess Lawrie, MD, PhD, Shabnam Palesa Mohamed#StopTheWHO #StopTheTreaty #Fauci #CovidVaccineInjury #W.H.O.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are out there in the world. It is time to step out onto the high wire. Well, you know, back in many years ago, I spent my time in New York. I did some acting, I did some traveling and musical theater, all of that, you know. And I remember watching the Academy Awards longingly dreaming maybe someday that would be me and Tony Awards and all those things. And through the years, every once in a while, one of those actors would step up on the stage and do some diatribe of about some political issue. And I remember all the pundits going crazy.

Who are these actors? Who do they think they are dictating upon us their knowledge as though they have any knowledge beyond, you know, how to hit a B flat without a piano or to do a two-step across the stage? And, you know, it was always offensive when I was an actor. But now when I look back, there are these moments and it can be a little bit disgusting

when an actor comes to some sort of self-aggrandized moment to pontificate upon us. their own opinions about a subject. Well, I don't think anything has exemplified how disgusting that can be more than a video that is going viral this week. This is out of New York City, I believe. This is a Broadway show. And Patty Lepone, one of the great singers of our times, decided that she had something to say to an audience member who apparently was letting their mask slide below their nose. Take a look at this. I mean, the irony of the fact that she's sitting with like co-stars all around here, none of them are wearing masks, but apparently if you're sitting next to each other and you're

not an actor, who do you think you are? In fact, I was thinking, you know, if you're writing this into a script which Patty Lepone is used to reading, I think that screenplay would read something like this. Ms. Lepone screams at the audience member, pull your mask over your nose. Who do you think you are? If you don't care about the people sitting next to you, then get the out. Cut to the two co-stars sitting directly next to Mrs. Lepone, wiping her saliva from their faces, the results of her frothing, spit-spewing tirade. At least that's how I would write it if I was writing the screenplay. Ms. Lepone, you're totally out of line. You're totally hypocritical. And what do you call these two things sitting right next to you on both sides? Are those not people too? Are you not

disrespecting them? I mean, wake up and look around you. This is the type of insanity we're all with this type of madness. And maybe it's not Patty Lippone's fault. You know, she's a part of that brainwashing, you know, insanity. She's watching CNN every single day. It's really getting her overly excited. And so she's lashing out.

And maybe she feels like she's lost too much salary already from the COVID pandemic. And now that they finally open up and allow me people wear their masks, she gets to get paid, which is what one of the audience members points out, we're paying your salary. And she didn't seem to like that response. very much. But this masking issue has really been one of the big juggernauts since the beginning

of the COVID pandemic. In fact, I found myself in the middle of this. I have questioned the use of vaccines. We have had professionals on here many, many times before. But, you know, one video we did in particular, and this made me think about it because it's sort of come up again for several different reasons. But I brought my son ever on over a year ago. I think it's probably almost a year and a half ago onto the show to test masks. We had gotten a CO2 monitor and we decided let's just see what the CO2 levels are in his mask. Just for those of you that haven't been following us for that long, this is just a little experiment, the types of things we do here on the high wire, this is what that look like.

This is my son ever. Ever is 11 years old. And here in Texas, the mandate right now is that 10 and over have got to wear a mask. ever has to wear a mask wherever we go. And so we bought this thing this week. This is, this measures the amount of CO2 that's in the air. Can we just look at the ocean numbers? Carbon dioxide levels and potential health problems are indicated below.

From 250, 350 is the background normal outdoor level. 350 to 1,000 ppm typical level found in occupied spaces with good air exchange. 1,000 to 2,000 level associated with complaints of drowsiness and poor air. Obviously, I don't want ever to have drowsiness or poor air. 2,000,000 levels associated with headaches, sleepiness, and stagnant, stale, stuffy airport concentration loss of attention, increased heart rate, and slight nausea may also be present, and then 5,000 ppm or more. This indicates unusual air conditions where high levels of the other gases also could be present.

Toxicity or oxygen deprivation could occur, meaning do not hit 5,000. All right, here we go. Right now we're at 848. So I'm going to go ahead and just insert this right like as he did, right? underneath and try and keep it. That feels pretty tight right there, right? Okay, so you can breathe naturally and let's just see what happens.

Okay. All right, so we're at 1,367. We've already just passed two. So now we're in the place where he can be having headaches. He can be, oh, we're at 3,786. Look at this. We've just passed 5,000.

Now we're in the toxic level, right? Now we can be doing this. 7,000 inside this mask of the CO2, 8,000 parts per million. And now this thing's gone off the Richter scale, folks. It can't even

register how high the CO2 levels are inside. And look how many seconds that was. All right. Can I just... Yeah, you want to take that off? I'll be totally honest with you. And I suppose there's people that would say, how could you

subject... I did. Actually, people did write it and say, how could you subject your son to that if you knew that it was dangerous? I mean, These are the types of things, but we did test every type of mask. The bandana did it. There was the surgical mask. Got up there pretty high also, and then even the face shield collected some CO2 under the shield. Well, I think this is one of the most viral videos we ever had.

And it was one of the most censored videos we ever had. Virg Sheel and almost every platform it played on, it would eventually be taken down millions of people saw it. And because of that, we were attacked with many, many fact checkers writing articles. about it. This is AFP fact-check. Flawed experiments exaggerate risk from CO2 concentration in masks. Another one by Medium Matters, YouTube videos, falsely claiming that masks are harmful, have gotten hundreds of thousands of views. And even look, our own Steve Kirsch, this is a guy that has been a great supporter of this movement in the work just a few weeks ago. He put this article out was the Dell Bigtree CO2 mask demo misleading. And he goes into some very specific argument that

ultimately agrees that master dangerous, but somehow the CO2 machine we used and we didn't use it properly and things like that. Now, you know, I'll be honest with you. We were just playing around. We did use the monitor. We just want to see was the CO2 there. We were shocked that it went way above the ocean numbers that were recommended. But for all of those out there that have been attacking us again, fact-checking the high wire in this experiment that we did, I just want to say, you know, the science always comes around. The truth does prevail. And, you know, there is a study that is now coming out. There's a brand new preprint.

I believe it's coming out of Italy. Take a look at this. Inhaled CO2 concentration while wearing face masks. A pilot study using Kepnography. I'm assuming a technology far more sophisticated than we had with our little experiment here at the high wire. But let's read what they discovered. None of the available evaluations of the inhaled air carbon dioxide concentration while wearing face masks use professional real-time

capnography with water removal tubing. Yeah, we definitely didn't do that. We measured the N-title CO2 using professional side-streamed capnography with water-removing tubing. At rest, without masks, wearing a surgical mask, and wearing an FFP2 respirator. That's our N95 mask, essentially, in 102 healthy volunteers aged in 10 to 90 years from the general population of Ferrara Province, Italy. What did they discover? Well, the mean CO2 concentration

was 4,965 on average, I guess, and that was plus or minus. It could be off by about 1,000 parts per million, so above and below, depending on who is getting it, with surgical masks. That was the blue surgical masks. They were up there around 5,000, which is about the number we were seeing with our little experiment. And look at this. When I told you it went off the Richter scale, that was 10,000 on our little monitor with an N95 mask. Their N95 mask came at it, 9,396.

Some of them went plus 2,254 parts per million, so they went up to 11, 12, 13 parts per million or below with the N95 mask. The proportion of the samples showing a CO2 concentration higher than the 5,000 PPM acceptable exposure threshold recommended for workers was 40.2% while wearing surgical masks. And 99% of those wearing the N95 masks were above that healthy standard moving into places where it would be bad for your health. And so adjusting for age, gender, BMI, and smoking, the inhaled air, CO2 concentration significantly increased with increasing respiratory rate. We know kids breathe fast. They have a faster respiratory rate. And thus it says, and was higher among the miners who showed a mean CO2 concentration of 12,847 parts per million while wearing the N95 respirators. So for all of you haters out there and yeah, Steve, we've had a great.

little back and forth on this, which I love. Look, I love the debate. I love the, you know, the conversation. But in case, you know, you want to know if I would be exonerated, well, or even that I cared if I was exonerated, do what I care, I didn't care. The truth is, is we knew what we did. We knew what we had said. We're simply showing you CO2 is collecting. That can't be good. And we're not talking about one hour. We're not talking about two hour. Your kids have been wearing this eight hours of freaking day every single day of their life. there is no way that that is increasing their health. That is a problem.

That was all we were trying to show. But now we have official science with even better machines proving exactly what you would have found had you been watching the high wire a year and a half ago. That's the kind of thing we do here. We do it all. We'll do studies. We'll bring in graphs. We talk to international scientists. And all that's made possible by you.

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They're going to be voting on amendments, decisions. And a lot of the press around this has been people saying that they're going to take away our sovereignty here in the United States of America. There's real dangers around the world. This is the complete and total takeover by the WHO. I'm going to talk to a couple of people that not only are focused on this, but have even worked at the WHO. course, Tess Laurie is going to be joining me and Shabnan Palaisa Mohammed, who are both members of the World Council for Health. They are dynamic individuals and they're going to sort of drill down on what's actually happening this week. That's coming up. And I have an incredible personal

story of a pilot. If you've been flying and wondering, I wonder how those pilots are doing up there in the cockpit. I know most of them had to get vaccinated. This is an incredible story of a pilot that was vaccinated, Bob Snow, and moments after landing plane collapsed, had to be shocked back to life all after receiving COVID vaccine. That's coming up, but first it's time for it, the Jackson Report. All right, Jeffrey, you know, you're one of those guys. You do a lot of great research. We think about what we're going to say here, what we're going to do. And we'd be the first to retract it, right? If we were wrong, people asked us to retract that mass study that we did with ever. I kept talking to science. In fact, I just want to say right now,

We even spoke to OSHA representatives that said we did the study just right. Let me just play that really quick. I actually did a video with my son ever. For anyone that might have missed it, I got false flag information, false information. This is not how you do this. So in that video, now number one, it said false information. That Dell is saying that it reduces the oxygen, wearing a mask, and that's not true. Now, number one, I didn't have an oxygen monitor.

So they were wrong right there. I didn't buy an oxygen monitor. I bought a CO2 monitor. I mean, we went online, we found a good CO2 monitor, we stuck it up in the mask. Now, I can say, and then I saw arguments, well, he didn't have it there long enough. If you watch the first mask he's wearing,

he's there for over a minute, half, two minutes, and it just keeps going. The CO2 goes off the charts. I mean, we go above 10,000 parts per million so the monitor couldn't register any longer. But, I mean, I get it. I'm taking the monitor. I'm just sticking up under the mask. Is that, did I just get an incorrect reading? Is that not how you would do this? No, we saw that and we were like, he's doing it right.

Dell, you did it exactly right. In the world of industrial hygiene and I'm a senior industrial hygienist, when you are going to test breathing environments or hazards that can be inhaled, you test in the breathing zone. The pulse oxymeter tests are dealing with oxygen blood gases. And it just blows my mind. And you did it exactly how we're trained to do it in school and out in the field. That is what you do. And the type of meter that you had is instantaneous. And it's designed to be instantaneous because a lot of times those meters are used in confined spaces where you have oxygen deficiency and you immediately have to know. And another aspect of that is you don't even need to do the meter test.

The studies have been around since the 1970s that, yes, mass can decrease oxygen by 20%. This is exactly why prolonged mask use is not approved in the workplace. Well, there you have it. I mean, it's not like we just say what we want. We go to the professionals. We go to the source. We go to people at OSHA to say, are we doing this right? If we were wrong, we would be the first to say it. This time, science backs us up as it has so many times. So knowing that vetting process, knowing that we've worked all week to put this show together, what made the cut list? Well, we're not only investigating, but we are teaching the audience some very valuable life skills. And there is a great teachable, moment that just happened. So for those audience members that don't know, we'd like to introduce you to the word gaslighting. This is something that we've seen over and over again throughout the media. And here's the definition right here. It's the technique to psychologically manipulate a person, usually over an extended period of time so that the victim questions the validity of

their own thoughts, perceptions of reality, memories, et cetera, et cetera. And so what we have here is a perfect example of this by one of our nation's top public health officials. Take a look and see if you can see what's wrong with this picture. During the times of the lockdowns, the data that we have seen following these lockdowns has shown that we have had increases in depression among young people. There's no doubt that when you put... Yes or no if you could just... I'll answer the question. There's no doubt when you put restraints on society that it causes emotional and mental stress.

There's no doubt about that. But you have to have to have... have a balance of saving people's lives from getting infected in hospitalizations. Would you agree that suicide rates have increased among young people? Indeed, they have. Would you agree that domestic violence rates have increased? Yeah, well, the answer is yes, but I'm wondering what that has to do with the question you're asking me. Would you agree that drug and alcohol use increased during these lockdowns? Well, I'm not sure the lockdowns itself did it, and I'm wondering why you're asking me about lockdowns because there were not complete lockdowns in this country. There were restrictions, obviously, but there were not lockdowns.

China is now going into a real lockdown. So I would disagree with characterizing whatever went on in this country as a full lockdown. You know what's amazing about that? And that's probably the third or fourth time I've watched since we knew we were going to discuss this on the show. But you actually catch him. We get to see how his. mind works when he's putting this together. And for the first time ever, there's like really a hiccup

there. He's usually pretty good at diverting the conversation, but he actually agrees to the premise. He keeps responding to lockdowns and then even says, I don't know what point you're trying to make, you know, when it came to the lockdowns because, and then he, then he realizes, oh, his brain goes, wait, wait, get off the word lockdowns. That's what you do. So after having said, you know, the lockdowns, you know, why are you asking me about the lockdowns as though they did this? Then he says, and by the way, we never really locked down here in the United States of America. Lou, lo, lo, everybody go back to sleep. China, China's the one that locks down.

We don't lock down here in the United States of America. But you see that shift, but it's too late. He's already made the point. He knows we locked down, right? I mean, by definition, this guy, you locked us down. I mean, tell that to all the people that could not walk into their jobs and make a living that went on to unemployment. If that's not a lockdown, what the heck is? talk to all the people whose children were at home, unable to go into school to have that interaction.

We're not allowed to play their sports. If that's not a lockdown, I'm not sure what is. And the representative there is talking about some devastating stats showing just the degradation of America from these lockdowns. And here he is doing wordplay back and forth. And so we go right to Johns Hopkins. We've covered this study several times. It came out in January of this year. This is a literature review of meta-analysis of the effects of lockdowns on COVID-19 mortality. They looked at almost 100 different meta-analysis and reviews. And they say this. This systemic review of meta-analysis are designed to determine whether there is empirical evidence to support the belief that, quote,

lockdowns reduce COVID-19 mortality. And they say, lockdowns are defined as the imposition of at least one compulsory non-pharmaceutical intervention. That's an NPI. NPIs are any government mandate that directly restricts people's possibilities, such as policies that limit internal movement, close schools and businesses, and ban international travel. So there you have it. Any one of those measures is considered a form of, quote, lockdown. So who is the biggest promoter of those lockdowns? This is what the record shows. Take a look. Mitigation means to be prepared to do things that would slow down the spread, such as closing schools, social distancing, teleworking.

We've got to double down very, very strongly on the things that I've been talking about with regard to the universal acceptance of masks, distancing, and avoiding crowds and congregate settings. When you have containment and mitigation that may seem like an overreaction will keep us away from that worst case scenario,

whatever it takes to preserve the health of the American public. The fact that we shut down when we did, and the rest of the world did, has saved hundreds of millions of infections and millions of lives. Now is the time to do what you're told. And I think it really is something that we should be doing right now.

Those are the good old days, huh? It's amazing, isn't it? I mean, just, you know, the giggling and laughing through the destruction of lives from his little ivory, well-paid tower there in Washington, D.C. It's just it's getting hard to handle. And in Tony Fauci's mind, as you heard him say, these were lockdowns in America.

You want lockdowns. China has lockdowns. And in his mind as well, he says you have to balance. There's a balance here. Well, there's no balance in China. So in his mind, you would probably think, well, if China is going all in, they must have the best COVID mitigation techniques in the world. But we go to England.

And they were really one of the first, if not the first in the world that, you know, world that people are locking down in America and European Union to end the lockdowns. And this was in late February of 2022. Here's what the headlines showed. England ends all COVID restrictions, including isolation law. And we covered at the time. We were kind of scratching our heads because it came out of nowhere. But now the headlines are looking like this. Ending England's COVID restrictions was divisive. But the data shows we were right. It says what will perhaps be surprising to many is that England has actually had a similar rate of infection and a lower rate of COVID deaths during the Omicron wave. And that's since 19th of July

2021, England's Freedom Day, then Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, despite having fewer mandatory restrictions and none after the 24th of February. This quote, natural experiment shows that having more mandates did not lead to better outcomes. And lo and behold, they go on to say this. Since the removal of restrictions in England, we have also seen an improvement in measures of personal well-being, economic performance, and unemployment, all of which are very important to our health and that's these deaths of despair. We've talked about so many times. But what's really interesting here is, again,

Tony Fauci talks about China and saying, well, they really did the lockdowns. And Del, you and I go back and forth to say, why is this, all these videos coming out of Shanghai? Are they really trying to kind of train us, in train us that these lockdowns are what's needed? And this is what the Lancet, the journal, the Medical Journal of the Lancet

is now publishing Shanghai's life-saving, they're calling it life-saving efforts against the current Omicron wave, of the COVID-19 pandemic. And they say this, this is the key point in this, the persistence of dynamic zero-COVID community transmission in Shanghai and other cities will overcome weak links in the immunological barrier in populations across the country.

So they're calling zero-COVID dynamic. I thought it was a complete failure. And what's interesting is the authors on these two of the three of them, one of them works for the municipality of Shanghai. The other ones on the government of China's payroll, works for their National Science Institute. Foundation. So this is what's coming out of the Lancet, this journal, we covered this so many times in the show. I mean, the fact that the Lancet even publishes of Chinese propaganda like that

is just as though they hadn't lost enough credibility with the false papers that they've had to retract over the year dealing with hydroxychloroquine, now publishing clearly Chinese propaganda. The state of science is truly appalling. It's really, really scary. And having just, you know, had, you know, Malone and Ryan Cole and all these doctors coming together to try and save scientific integrity. It's clear why they're shouting from the mountops how bad this is getting. And reading through that paper, they're talking about the immunological barrier. There is talking about the people that aren't vaccinated because China apparently had this low vaccination rate. So they had to do zero COVID until they got enough vaccines.

Well, that brings us into our next segment here. We've had the vaccine coverage in America, in the UK, in Ireland, in Scotland. And we've covered on this show nearly every week showing that, you know, in spaces, the vaccinated have higher cases, the vaccinated have higher hospitalization rates. And no one's really able to explain this correctly within the public health agencies or the government. In fact, they don't even admit it. But we have here, Good Morning America. It's really starting to sound a little bit like the high wire now.

Take a listen to this. All right. There's a new published study out in Lancet, the journal Lancet Infectious Disease, about the fourth dose and what happens to our antibody levels. It is not a surprise that they've released new data confirming that after the fourth dose of Pfizer or Moderna that antibody levels rise significantly. They surge in the several weeks after that dose. We've known that for a while. But here are the caveats. We don't know how long that lasts, number one.

And our immune response, remember, is not just about antibodies. It's about that T-cell response also, which you can't really measure as well as just a pure antibody level. And it's about whether or not they're blocking or neutralizing antibodies to the variant that we're seeing. So when people hear these headlines, they shouldn't be surprised. Yes, of course, you're going to get a surge in your antibody levels. But how long that lasts is the issue. And it's certainly not just about more boosting for every. one, people who have high antibody levels, there's the potential. I want to underscore the potential.

We haven't seen any evidence of this, of this immune phenomenon known as tolerance, where if you already have high antibody levels and you get another booster, that your immune system can start to say, well, what am I needed for and can kind of start to shut down? So we, if you're in that category of people who the FDA and CDC is recommending to get a booster, 50 and over, 65 and over with a chronic medical condition. Yes, by all means, but everyone else don't think that more boosting is the answer. We don't know that that's the case yet. What? More boosting is not the answer.

I have to have full disclosure here. Jennifer Ashton, I have worked with on the CBS show The Doctors. Both me and the executive producer of the High Wire worked at the Doctors. We won an Emmy Award while working on that show. Jennifer Ashton did some great work. In this case, I just want to let you know, Jennifer, that we covered this months ago. We have been on this, and I'm glad you're finally, you know, bringing this known science to the forefront. But the problem and the reason why I no longer work the doctors, and I probably wouldn't work on Good Morning America or a today show or anything else,

is you are making a very important point. There are people that are really at risk for immune fatigue or whatever other, you know, language we use to talk about this. But that little moment you had, which was really trying to, you know, needle your way through a very uncomfortable reality, how many times is that going to be said on ABC amidst everybody else coming on and say, get your booster and people not knowing how high their titers are, not knowing where they're at, or the most important point you made, Jennifer, how about a vaccine that's no longer even addressing Amacron at all? We are talking about a vaccine that is absolutely antiquated and virtually useless. So why are they going to risk destroying their immune system response?

But Jennifer, I've worked with her. I want to make that clear. So anything I'm saying, we do have a history. Okay, Jeffrey, it is amazing, though. And I've watched Jennifer through the years. We didn't always agree on the doctors either, by the way. So that's not new. But it really is amazing to see mainstream backing away from this, just this, you know,

this unstoppable belief and faith, religious belief, as you will, in the safety and efficacy. And man, you could take a million of these things and it just keep getting better and better. Right. And one thing she said is your immune system might kind of shut down. I grew up in the 80s and I was taught that was AIDS when your immune system shut down. That was the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. So that to me was really disturbing to hear, even though we've reported on it several times and here's one of the studies that or one of the headlines you're covering one of the studies that she's talking about this is vaccine sealing approaching for some as studies suggest fourth jab

may not be necessary so they're talking about limiting boosting effect for the fourth dose indicating that there could be a vaccine sealing but we're hearing these terms like you mentioned immune exhaustion vaccine sealing she says immune tolerance there's booster fatigue but it's all pointing to kind of one one central target is these things aren't working and why are we taking in the first place because the first two weren't working. And that brings us to the next story here, which is kind of a hand-wringing story, but we're going to have to report it anyway because it's happening. This is the FDA's latest emergency use authorization. They're authorizing boosters for kids. The first booster, FDA authorizes Pfizer COVID booster dose for kids ages

five to 11 years old. None of this could happen if it wasn't for Javier Bacera. He's the secretary of HHS and he extended, we reported this about a month ago. He extended the COVID public health emergency for another 90 days. That was in the headlines. And what that did was it allowed these emergency use authorizations for vaccines to stay valid and also for them to do what they just did with the FDA is to push more through for these kids. So even though there is no emergency for kids, we've covered the numbers, there's no hospitalization emergencies, there's no mortality emergencies associated with COVID-19. These are you. kids have almost zero percent risk on those two factors and a low case correlation to that.

But let's go right. Okay, so let's go right to the FDA press release because we didn't get a VIRPAC meeting on this one. We received a press release. Coronavirus update FDA expands eligibility of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine booster doses for children five through 11 years old. Let's dig into this great press release. It says here the safety. Now, how did they determine the safety? The safety of a single booster dose of the Pfizer biotech COVID-19 vaccine in this age group was assessed in approximately 400 children who received a booster dose. So there you go. You're going to send it to about a million plus children throughout the United States. Now it says here, the FDA did not hold a meeting of its vaccine-related biological products advisory committee on today's action as the agency previously

convened the committee for extensive discussions regarding the use of booster doses of COVID-19 vaccines. And after review of Pfizer's EUA request, the FDA concluded that the request did not raise questions that would benefit from additional discussion by committee members. That is so, there you go, committee members. It's so terrifying where we're at now. We're talking about a vaccine and brand new technology. I'm just going to try to recap like the last two years of our lives.

A brand new technology that killed animals in the animal trials had a serious problem that no one could figure out to overcome. We warp speed the vaccine. Then we do something called an emergency use authorization, meaning just give it to everybody, They just make it available to everybody because it's just such a big problem. This cold is killing nearly 0.26% of those that are catching it. We got to get on this. And so they rush this vaccine out without a long-term safety trial.

No idea of the long-term safety effects. Can you imagine if we keep doing this with every product that the pharmaceutical industry makes? We're all going to die if this isn't the vaccine or the drug that kills us. This approach towards medicine will be. And now they've gone a step further. Now are they not only rushing these things out, the one little kind of stop gap you had was this, you know, well-paid, you know, insider group that you would at least address. Most of them work for Pfizer or Merck or Sinofia Ventus.

We've been complaining about it, Burbank, but at least they were getting in there and hopefully making some comments, and they've made some comments, right, that we're not like that positive. Even though they're funded by most of these industries, they constant, some of them kind of came out and said, I don't know about this, and then they just cut them off completely. it's like it's it's just like we're just going to make decisions without any scientific debate over the you know and if there's debate we're going to skip it i mean it's such a dangerous precedent and what we're watching here and what's interesting about that press release is it they slapped every one of those members in the face i hope members if you're watching this or if you if you read that press release you have just

been disrespected by the agency that you're supposedly advising they said all all of your all of your uh in front of your name, doctor, right, right, immunologist. That means nothing. You can add nothing to this discussion, they said to you. And so let's look at what the FDA in all its wisdom looked at, and let's see if this would offer a discussion. It says here, this is for the effectiveness.

Antibody responses were evaluated in 67 study participants. Okay. So not even the 400. There's like 607. Okay. Small fraction, who received a booster dose seven to nine months after completing a two-dose primary series of the Pfizer or biointech COVID-19 vaccine.

The antibody levels, which levels we don't know, the antibody level against the SARS-CoV-2 virus one month after the booster dose was increased by how much we don't know, compared to before the booster dose. So there you go, shut up and deal with it. So luckily, we can go back to the future here, back in time, and go back to when the FDA did have

its independent expert committee deliberate on the two doses for that same age group. So this was before the booster dose, They talked about two doses for ages 5 to 11. This was in October 26, 2021. Take a listen to what Michael G. Carilla, he's an immunologist. He had some interesting questions he brought up at that time. Take a listen.

And while the benefit here is assumed to be prevention of severe disease, which is what we're all hoping for, my one concern I have is that particularly for that population that has children that has undergone previous, as has experienced a previous COVID infection, which CDC estimates is 40% of this population, which I think is probably a floor. I think it may actually be higher than that.

The question really becomes, does this vaccine offer any benefits to them at all? Are they actually very well protected? And the other aspect here is for children who have undergone, for example, adult infection, does now vaccinating them with a strain that goes back almost two years from the vaccine, from the time they're getting the vaccine, does that actually help or hurt their current immune system with regard to ongoing variants?

I don't think we know that. We have no idea. I think for many children who have experienced COVID already, they're probably more than adequately protected. One dose may be sufficient. I think for the high-risk children, it's very different. but I will emphasize again that this dosing interval, the way it was put together, is suboptimal in terms of durability.

And I think that there can't be any expectation that the antibody decay rate is going to look any different from the adults, and then these children are going to be expected to have a booster in another six months. And I think the focus on cases, reducing cases, is really what's going to confound us, because I don't think we're going to be a good to be a lot. don't think we're going to be able to do that we're going to see vaccine breakthroughs in this population

and it's going to cause all the same problems that covid does whether or not they're vaccinated what a wise sage i mean here we are like you said six months later we're about seven months later voting on the booster no voting at all and he talked about the the serial prevalence they said at that time there was 40 percent of those kids in that age group right now we we covered last week the CDC's own MMWR said about 75% of kids zero to 17. I mean, all that really encapsulated really what Jennifer Ashton was talking about. 75% of this country, these kids have probably high tighter rates. They also the T cells and B cells.

And as Gerevan Bosh has pointed out, they are immune to the current Omicron. You're going to now vaccinate them with the old alpha, the Wuhan strain vaccine? Like what possible benefit? That can have no benefit. So what if their antibodies are going up? If they're useless antibodies that don't recognize the current strain, you reported this last week, Peter Marks basically telegraphed that he was going to do this, saying I don't care if the rates are below 50% in effectiveness,

which was that milestone we told they would always stay above. We will recommend it for kids anyway. They did it. I mean, it's just, you know, can we bring up a picture of Peter Marks? I just have to make the, do we have a photo of Peter Marks? I think we have to remember this moment in history. history because this is the guy. This is the guy that has made decisions under all these situations where we know the death

rate is virtually zero amongst children that catch COVID. He already admitted that this vaccine is totally ineffective. We know that they are seeing no better benefit amongst that we're seeing with the adults. Everyone's catching Omicron. The vaccine isn't working. And now with a 75% technically that's herd immunity. When you have that much natural infection in this group, Those kids are living at the space we should all be at for herd immunity.

Now you're going to subject them to all the dangers of the blood clotting, all the myocarditis, all of the issues that you know exist. This is no longer hypothetical. You know there are children being put at risk. I just want to say, don't ever forget the face of, you know, Mr. Marks here, Peter Marks. And with all due respect to Dr. Carilla, saying really just the obvious, anybody that looks at any of the science could have said that as well. He did abstain from the voting.

was the only one that abstain from the voting during the two-dose recommendation, emergency use authorization for those five to 11-year-olds for the Pfizer vaccine. But let's look at what the journals say. Let's look at what the medical journals are saying. This is the journal of the American Medical Association, or JAMA. They came out with this study just recently titled Association of Prior BNT162B2, that's Pfizer's vaccine, COVID-19 vaccination with symptomatic SARS-CoV2 infection in children and adolescents during the Omicron predominance.

Now, this is important because the Amherst, Pachron predominance is one we're talking about here and symptomatic. So we're always being told the kids are always asymptomatic that you can never tell what's going on. So they looked at symptomatic cases. And let's look at the conclusion that this study found among children and adolescents estimated vaccine effectiveness for two doses of BNT 162B2 against symptomatic infection was modest and decreased rapidly. That's exactly what Carilla said. That's exactly what we knew. And let's look at this in a chart.

We see this on the left side. that's the adjusted vaccine effectiveness as a percentage. And then at the bottom is the month since second dose. Now, remember, those kids just started getting vaccinated during the time of this study. So you have the 5 through 11 year olds that are now ready for the boosters. They have just, it's peaking under 30% effectiveness. But we had those 12 to 15 year olds who's had the vaccine for quite some time. They start around 60, but, uh-oh, they go under zero.

And when you go under zero, that means you get into a negative. and that means you're more at risk of symptomatic infection after those two doses. Yeah, I mean, just for people that are watching this for this first time, let me be perfectly clear. You see an orange line going across right there at about four months, it's nearing the zero line. And then once it goes negative into then down, it looks like negative 20 by seven months out, that really means you can flip that over. That's a 20% increased risk of developing a COVID infection. You were increasing your risk.

So these days, people wrap your head around this, the days of this idea that your kids going to get a vaccine and then they'll be protected for life are over. This prediction is lasting months, meaning somewhere down the road, you are increasing the risk of your child being infected, increasing the risk of them being a carrier that's going to spread it to their classmates, increasing the risk of infections throughout schools, increasing the risk to those that have autoimmune issues and couldn't get vaccinated. So forget about this argument. It is gone. It is dead that you're vaccinated in order to protect those that can't vaccinate to create this cocoon. You are doing anything but you are putting us all at risk for being around your infected child that's going to be more infected because you gave them the vaccine. Let's not mistake what we're seeing here scientifically. And Dell, unlike the FDA's advisory board, we can speak freely.

We can talk about this stuff. We can raise questions and we can debate. Right. This is something that's been under attack recently in a big way here in America by what was it was been called the disinformation governance board. Well, this is breaking news just yesterday. The disinformation governance board is paused. This is the headline here. Biden administration considers shutting down disinformation board amid blistering criticism. This is the report.

And it says in this article, DHS reportedly decided to shut down the board entirely on Monday. And its director, Nina Jankwitz, tendered a voluntary resignation letter on two. Tuesday, she has now resigned. That letter has been public just recently. She's out. The board is in disarray. No more songs about the loss of our privacy and our free speech. I mean, that's gone. I don't get my little nursery rhymes at night sung to me by, what is it, scary Poppins? Is that what they're called? Who would have thought? It turns out that Americans don't like people lording over their free speech, especially a government who purports to protect. them. But there's an end around happening right now that is really relevant to our viewers, to our

guests, and that is coming through the medical boards. That is coming through disinformation from doctors in the medical community. They're trying to really regulate that. And we have 14 states. This was a recent article title, 14 states were pushing back against this. So it says here, some state lawmakers push back on medical board misinfo stances. And it says 14 states have proposed legislation aimed at weakening boards abilities to discipline for misinfo. Well, you know, MedPage can be a little slant. Another way of saying that is these states are trying to protect the freedom and autonomy of the medical community to have these discussions. You know, how valuable was it to have Dr. Peter McCullough talk about early treatments and how it was shut down and trying to get

these early treatments to people so they don't just, you know, go home and wait until they turn blue in the face and have to run to the hospital, get put on a ventilator. But now what's happening is state medical boards are adopting policy throughout the entire governing structure. And this is the headline right here. It says FSMB, that's the fed fed federation of state medical boards, adopts misinformation policy, provides guidance for state boards licensees in order to reduce misinformation harms. So this this board, let's go directly to that policy paper that they have now put out. This goes all to the individual states. It's called professional expectations regarding medical misinformation and disinformation. The word discipline appears like 18 times throughout this document. And one of the most

chilling passages from this document is this here. It says when adjudicating cases regarding misinformation and disinformation, state medical boards are encouraged to consider the full array of authorized grounds for disciplinary actions in their medical practices acts. So they're asking for full teeth on this one to go after doctors, osteopaths that talk about it. And it also, it distinctly says on social media as well. So not just behind closed doors to their patients, whatever they disseminate to the public on social media or a website, anything. This is going to be grounds for the full array of disciplinary actions, as they say. I mean, I just try to think about how many lives were saved by doctors that still talked about hydroxychloroquine and got it to their

patients. Those that talked about ivermectin and got it to their patients. Those were using high doses of vitamin D, which when your, you know, when your levels are high enough, They see no COVID deaths. You know, all the doctors that said, I'm not going to use a ventilator. I don't think that's a good idea. We're not seeing good results from that. All of these people will, you know, be seeing, you know, be being censored and perhaps even looking at losing their licenses. How many lives were saved by doctors that said, you know what?

I wouldn't trust that Johnson Johnson vaccine. It wasn't tested long enough. And now, you know, over a year after being delivered FDA withdrew sort of that recommendation, pulled back from it last week as we reported. we know and I want to point this out these are milestone moments this means again the end of this idea that you're creating you herd immunity which I just talked about a second ago and now the idea that vaccines never hurt anybody we now know that that is not true the Johnson and Johnson vaccine admittedly now we know it's the others but I just want to point out that this this cathedral of safety and effectiveness is crumbling down around them this idea that the word vaccine can be

you know equals vaccine equals safe and effective not the case. They can be dangerous. They can be deadly. Wake up world. I know many of you, all of you watching the show are awake, but do you see how this conversation is changing? This is what's going on and how many lives were saved by those that admitted it and now we have to worry about them losing their jobs in the future. Should other crazy things be pushed on us without testing, without verback, a part of the discussions? It's so scary. It's so scary what they're attempting to do, but obviously we report on this attempted takeover by the health establishment that's been happening

through this entire pandemic. And it's from, it's largely coordinated from the federal level. Recently the US Surgeon General put out a request for examples of misinformation and disinformation to be sent to his office, the Department of HHS, for them to kind of collate this and really formulate some type of plan.

So Todd Rakita, he put together a really good list for him and I think it might be pretty helpful. I thought I'd share with the audience here. This is the, this is what it said, here. This is the actual paper that was sent in. This is from the Department of Health and Human Services, Office of the Surgeon General. He says here, we agree that misinformation has been a major problem during the pandemic. The spread of inaccurate scientific information has made it difficult for the public to make the right decisions to protect themselves, their families,

and their communities from COVID-19 and the collateral public health damage arising from the pandemic countermeasures. He goes on to say, we submit the following examples of disinformation from the CDC and other health organizations that have shattered the public's trust and science and public health and will take decades to repair. He sent them nine examples with documentation. And here they are right here. We can go over them if we want. But over counting COVID-19, questioning natural immunity, saying the COVID-19 vaccines prevent transmission. They don't. School closures were effective and costless. Everyone is equally at risk in hospitalization and death from COVID infection, saying there was no reasonable policy alternatives to lockdowns. There's

Tony Fauci for you. Mass-mandated. are effective in reducing the spread of viral infectious diseases. Number eight, mass testing of asymptomatic individuals and contact tracing of positive cases is effective in reducing disease spread. And number nine, the eradication of COVID-19 is a feasible goal. All laughable now. And these are the things that were sent in. And I thought I'd add a couple more from our favorite people.

So here's Tony Fauci. This was 2021. Here's the headline in case you don't remember it. Fauci, vaccinated people become, quote, dead ends for the coronavirus. Here's CDC's Rochelle Wilensky from the same year. It's official. Vaccinated people don't transmit COVID-19. Wow.

And then even Joe Biden, here he is. U.S. president claims you won't get COVID if you have the vaccine. And it goes beyond Biden. It goes straight to the White House. Let's look at the White House's Twitter feed. This happened just recently. They posted this. When President Biden took office, millions were unemployed and there was no vaccine available.

Then they go on to talk about some economy stuff. Well, reminder, he took office. His inauguration was on January 20th, 2021. So here's a tweet from December 21st, 2020, just about a month before he took office. He said, today I received the COVID-19 vaccine to the scientists and researchers worked tirelessly to make this possible. Thank you. We owe you an awful lot.

And the American people know there's nothing to worry about when the vaccine is available. I urge you to take it. This is, again, on their own Twitter feed that said that the vaccine wasn't available. Now here's January 13th. Still before he took office, President-elect Biden received his second dose of the COVID-19 vaccine because he trusts scientists. Our administration is committed to doing everything possible to ensure every American has all the available information they need to get vaccinated. And this force after the White House is completely roasted online.

This forced them to go to Twitter and apologize. They said we previously misstated, I think that's called misinformation, that vaccines were unavailable in January 2021. We should have said that they were not widely available. vaccines became available shortly before the president came in office one month. Since then, he's responsible for fully vaccinating over 200 million people. Whoops. If this was your idol, we'd no longer have a Twitter account. If one of these people were a doctor, their license would be up for review from the medical board.

But I guess apology is good too. Maybe that's how we should just have a world. If someone misstates something, people call them out like they did to the White House, roast them online, and then they correct their problem. They correct their misinformation. But there's always these looming facts you can't get around. Of course, just this last week, Biden announcing with masks, you know, flags flying at half-mask, the one-millionth person has died from COVID.

And I just, when I look at all this, I think, for what? And what have we gained? And how are these people still making the claims and still in power? I mean, we were, I think, just under half a million that had died when Trump left office. He had, you know, that was 2020 to 2021. We're 21 to 20, 22, just in the beginning of that. In that same amount of time, over half a million more or so have died. So the vaccine came.

What did it do? The lockdowns happened. None of it seemed to stop any of this. The only thing they achieved, if we're to listen to what Geert van and Bosch is saying, and look at these high infection rates around the world, the only thing we achieved was eradicated the possibility of achieving herd immunity. And yet we have to listen to these people tell us about boosters that we do not need and that may even give us, you know, immune system fatigue.

Jeffrey, just incredible reporting. And, you know, the beauty of this is that we've been right. It hasn't been hard to be right. You just had to really look at the science and understand what we're talking about. You do such a great job of delivering that. And one thing I can say for sure, though they've tried to censor us and censor you, I want to thank you for your work because I know you have saved lives of the information you're providing.

You're making a difference in this world. and I'm proud to have you be my partner on this adventure of the high wire. So keep up the good work. All right. Safe travels and good luck in England. All right. Sounds good. I'll talk to you soon.

See you next week. All right. Well, you know, there's so many stories, so many vaccine injury stories. I know we're at that point. It just feels like it's everywhere. Whether, you know, I talked to a professor this week that told me that five of the 100 students he had this year had to take time off due to myocarditis. I mean, that number, I said, wait, how many students at 100?

That's 1 in 20. We are at 1 in 20. Just sure, it's anecdotal, but how many people have these stories? How many these stories are going unnoticed while Peter Marks refuses to talk to any expert body and just keeps promoting this vaccine everywhere? And then the people that have been forced to take it, those that apparently we weren't locked down, but we couldn't have our jobs or we couldn't go to work unless we got the vaccine, all of this. It doesn't matter what they say. It doesn't matter what they try to gaslight.

Unfortunately, there's been video cameras rolling the whole time. And I said this. I said this from the beginning. I said it with my team and I said it on this show. One of the issues they're going to have, unlike all the other vaccines that have been mostly people volunteer, they put their kids up for it. It's what you do. It's been really hard to get the word out that there's some dangers there. And it's been really hard to get doctors to recognize the injury to a child because the child most of the time can't speak. They're an infant. They can't, you know, They're not looking at the eyes anymore or they've lost the ability to say, mommy, daddy. Well, that happens.

But I said, this time it's going to be adults. Now it's going to be walking, talking, adults being injured. And by the way, you take a doctor, you take a nurse or anybody else that only got the vaccine because they're being forced to get it. And Houston, you're going to have a problem. You won't be able to silence those parents. You won't be able to tell them their kid that's just normally what was going to happen, what's going to happen to them. these people are going to speak out. They're going to say the only reason I took this stupid vaccine is because you made me and now my life is destroyed. I guarantee you those videos are coming.

Well, they have been coming by these shiploads, dumping on our beaches all across this country. In fact, every nation in the world, everywhere you look, these stories are coming in. But there's one that went viral recently for a good reason. This is not just an injury to one person. This one person potentially holds. the lives of hundreds in his life every single day. Should this happen at the wrong time, how many could have died? I'm talking about a video from a hospital room where a pilot of over 30 years in the business, he finds himself in a hospital waking up after having been shocked back to life. His last memory was being in his cockpit and taking one or two steps out

when everything in his life changed. that video that went viral. My name is Bob Snow. I've been a captain for a number of years. My total service with the company is over 31 years. On November 7th, I was mandated to receive a vaccine. Quite literally, I was told if I did not receive the vaccination, I would be fired. This was from our director of flight. So, under duress, I received the vaccine. Now, just a few days ago, after landing in Dallas six minutes after we landed. I passed out. I coded. I required three shocks. I need to be intubated. I'm now in the ICU in Dallas. This is what the vaccine has done for me. I will probably never fly again based upon the criteria that the FAA establishes for pilots.

I was hoping to teach my daughter to fly. She wants to be a pilot. That will probably never happen. all courtesy of the vaccine. This is unacceptable and I am one of the victims. You can see that this is the actual result of the vaccine for some of us. Mandatory, no questions asked, get the shot or you're fired. This is not the American way. Well, clearly another American hero that decided the most important thing in the middle of his own demise was to get the word out and try and protect.

others out there. Obviously that is a shared mission on the high wire. And so we reached out to that pilot Bob Snow and said, can we send our camera crews down to get to the bottom of what really happened here? Our amazing team went down and spent, you know, a day in the life of Bob Snow. This is what they came back with. When I was seven years old, I had the desire to pursue aviation as a career. A lot of toy airplanes and a lot of interest in aviation. It was just a natural for me. I was also a military brat growing up. I was introduced to the military lifestyle. It was competitive, but fortunately I prevailed and became a pilot in United States Air Force. And I have been a commercial pilot, airline pilot for a major airline here in the United States with over 31 years

of service. I live in the central Texas area. Coming from the military background, I've never categorized myself as being anti-vax. Of course, we didn't really get a choice. You're We were told you're going to get a round of vaccines and I never gave it much thought. I thought that anything that was presented to me would have been tested and safe. When it came to the COVID vaccine, I was a little more introspective on that, I would say, because of the lack of testing and the rushed nature of the vaccine. We were encouraged to receive the vaccine as early as possible by the company. Of course, at that time we had no idea as to what the efficacy was or if there were any sort of downsides to it.

They were offering the extra vacation day and they were offering the stipend into our company account. But a commercial business mandating that their employees should be required to receive an experimental vaccine as a term of their employment was not something I initially signed up for. The company did early on say that people should apply for religious exemptions. In my particular case, I can't say that I have any sort of spiritual or religious opposition to receiving a vaccine. To step forward and to request a religious exemption for a vaccine would be under false pretenses. In my regards, I think it was more reluctance on an ethical background, forcing me to receive something that I really didn't want to receive and really didn't need. Given that I'd already had the virus and had antibodies, why would I need to receive a vaccine if I've already had the virus?

But in lieu of being terminated, as I am the sole provider for my family, my wife doesn't work and I still have two kids in the house. I made the difficult decision to go and receive the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. And in retrospect, that was a wrong choice. I did notice that my arm was very sore for almost 10 days after receiving the vaccine. This was unusual for me, to the point where if I would roll over in bed at night onto my arm, it would wake me up. And my initial presentation of any sort of abnormal symptoms began in early to mid-January. I was working on the overhead panel of the aircraft, and I noticed that, I had developed an interesting pain in my right shoulder,

kind of worked its way down through my lower white quadrant, and then from the right quadrant up through my chest in between my shoulder blades. It resolved itself quickly, and I thought nothing else of it. Interestingly enough, after that event, I contracted COVID again, and no complications during the course of that. It resolved itself rather quickly. When I went back to work, I started noticing that I got another one of those little instances of pain, And having had a minor history of gastrointestinal issues, I thought, I'll call my gastroenterologist.

And so I actually had gone in for an endoscopy and an abdominal cat scanned and to see if there was anything going on. On the morning of April 9th, we started our day in Denver. And we were going to fly from Denver to DFW. It was a normal morning. Had an uneventful flight, flew the airplane to DFW, landed, taxied to the gate, arrived on the gate, did the shutdown checklist. I stood up to grab my bags and that's the last that I remember. I'm standing up to collect my bags and apparently I collapsed in the flight deck. I am joined now by, you know, veteran pilot Bob Snow who's just shared this incredible story with us.

Let me just take it back a little bit. You know, the first video we saw was this video that went viral from inside of a hospital room. sort of brought this story to the nation's attention, something that got our attention. Why did you make that video? Well, I think at the time, you know, coming out of this disorientation, waking up in a hospital going, oh, how did I get here? You know, you're coming off a massive dose of propofol being intubated.

Once I started to realize, you know, what had happened, I think I got angry, to be honest. I kind of realized that this, is not right. I shouldn't be here. And I started putting two and two together and I basically came up with the premise that, looking back, you know, at the vaccine that I received in November, I started to kind of think that probably the two incidents were related, the vaccine and my sudden cardiac arrest in the flight there. Was that the first moment you, I mean, so, I mean, you're not, there's a lot of pilots that would just line up and take this vaccine, I'm sure did.

And, you know, but you weren't. You went through this process of considering, I thought it was interesting, you were considering the religious exemption, but to you, it seemed unethical because it wouldn't be sincere. You did not have a religious reason. You didn't want it. You didn't want it because you didn't think it'd be properly safety tested, correct? That is correct. And so once you finally give in, I'm guessing you took it down to the wire, right?

You waited to the last minute. They're actually pressuring your job. So once you take it, were there concerns, were there things that you had seen out there that had you concerned? Or were you just in general just didn't like the short duration of time of testing? Or were you seeing health issues popping up? I think it's a compendium of all of it. You put it all together. And initially the company during the spring of 2021, when the vaccines were introduced, put the emphasis on voluntarily receiving the vaccine.

And at that point, it's like, no, I'm not really too satisfied with the testing regimen that these vaccines have been through. And this full court press that we're receiving about, you know, safe and effective. Well, we don't know that it's safe and effective yet because there really hadn't been any studies. And these vaccines, of course, were released on an EUA. Having not gone through the regular testing regimen was, you know, I hate to use the word hesitant because it obviously implies that vaccine hesitancy, which I'm really not hesitant to receive vaccines. flu shot every year. Yeah.

We've received lots of shots. But then going forward, of course, you know, the company, they used the carrot, and then they switched to the stick later on. Around about October 1st, they mandated, came on and basically said, okay, we're going to mandate the vaccine. And there was, as I said, there was no ambivalence to their statement. It was, you will receive the vaccine or you will be terminated, unless you request the exemption.

I guess what I'm really curious about, there was. just what, you know, what we're always trying. We, I mean, you, I'm sure don't watch the high wire every day. So one of our major investigations has always been, I've been investigating vaccines, how they're approved, the safety, all of it. So we were immediately looking at the emergency use authorization. We had issues that it seemed like it was rushed. But from a guy who's well educated, you know, obviously a pilot, I'm just saying you were looking at emergency use authorization. I'm just curious, that bothered you. Like I'm just trying to get the pulse of a person who is not dedicated to investigating pharmaceutical issues, how was it that you sort of

looked into those things when so many people do not? Do you think you're different or do you tend to read things? I mean, just what made you reticent? Well, I tend to do, I look for, you know, backstory on things. I look for why. I want to know the why's of certain issues. I've always been kind of that way to kind of delve into understanding what's going on. I come from a background surrounded by a lot of medical personnel, a lot of legal personnel. So I've always been kind of inquisitive when it comes to certain issues. And this issue really came to the forefront, you know, with the whole full court press basically on COVID. And we're all aware of, you know, COVID COVID COVID, COVID, just nonstop 24-7, 365, just go, go, go, go. Right. And then, you know,

here's this miracle vaccines. Well, where did they come from? You know, if COVID just kind of popped up out of the blue and all of a sudden we have solutions, but they're issued under an EUA. I understand the concept of releasing a manufacturer from liability, that's significant, particularly manufacturers that have lost some serious court cases over the years for some serious money. And you're basically absolving them of any responsibility as to after effects or harmful effects of these vaccines. And I find that disturbing, that somebody is waived of all liability. And they're going to inject something into me that could be significantly life-life

altering. And obviously it was, at least in my estimation. So let's get to that. So you take the vaccine, you're reticent to do it, you sort of wait to the last minute. At that point, were you, would you say you're more sensitive monitoring your health, where you like, did it make you actively think, am I doing okay? Or did you do it? And then moving on, not thinking about it? No, I think I was a little more introspective and careful about what was going on initially. What I'm wondering is how many other pilots may be out there that weren't as sensitive as you are, that are thinking, oh man, I really pulled a muscle or something that are flying around right now, because ultimately what we discover is these are precursors to an event that is about to happen.

An event that should it happen in the air is going to have a lot bigger ramifications than right after the flight. And how long after you had landed just to remember, did you find yourself, you know, laying flat out. My understanding, going back and looking at the numbers that I put on my log, we were about six minutes. If you land on the proper runway and you have the proper gate, sometimes it works quite well. And yeah, you can turn off the runway, you can be almost right into the gate. We have a three minute cool down on the engines we're supposed to comply with. So we don't like to turn straight into the gate because we'll have to run the engines and people like to get off the aircraft, along with us. So we were about six minutes and then

we shut down, did the shutdown checklist, which usually you can have that complete under a minute. Okay. The FO excused himself to go to the lavatory. And so while he was doing that, I got up to collect my bags as we were supposed to go to another flight. It's the last I remember. And out of nowhere, there's nothing in that flight that you were feeling anything at all. Nothing. No, no precursors, no warnings, no tweaks, no pains, nothing. Wow. This is literally like somebody pulling a plug. Wow. Well, speaking of that plug, a plug that went on to change your life forever, you were candid with us and really talked about what it's like now, a day in the life of,

you know, of a pilot who was perfectly healthy prior to the vaccination. Take a look at this. Since my discharge from the hospital, I get to wear a what's called a life vest, which is basically a wearable monitor and AED. So in the event that it detect any sort of irregularity or fibrillation, I will receive a shock and basically to try to shock my heart back into a normal sense of rhythm. So I get to wear that 24-7-365. I wear it when I sleep.

I wear it throughout the day. I'm wearing it now. It's been described from what I understand when you receive a shock as being kicked in the chest by a horse. So you can imagine that you're probably not a good idea to be flying an aircraft to have this thing zap you. The plan going forward is to devaluate the necessity to have this. And if it's clinically necessary, then we'll have to do is get an implantable cardiobrter defibrillator. It's implanted in your chest in a pouch. and it runs leads to your heart.

Obviously, when you have an ICD, you're not allowed to drive commercially, you're not allowed to fly commercially. I don't think you're even allowed to fly at all. To be able to fly commercially, or even as a private pilot in this country, requires licensing, it requires medical certification.

So at this point, I'm considered surrendered of my medical certification to fly. So I'll be placed on disability. We're going to take a huge financial hit compared to what I would be earning, you know, flying as a line, as a senior captain with over 31 years of service.

I think one of the things that I find most disturbing about my situation, the situation that others have been placed in, is that we have been almost relegated to the status of collateral damage. That, oh, well, those guys just had something wrong, or those girls just had something wrong with them to begin with. You know, just this willingness to overlook the potential for harm that has occurred as a result of that has occurred. as a result of a mandated vaccine.

That's not how we should be treating our fellow man. That's not how a civilized society behaves. We take care of each other. We're supposed to take care of each other. We're a community. And for people to just look at you and go, well, it sucks to be you. You know, too bad that happened.

To me, is just infuriating. Thinking about this sort of change in your life and this idea of like right now, you're wearing it as we speak, a piece of apparatus that will shock you. Now that's, we didn't really get into details, but when you collapsed on that plane, did they have to use defibrillators to bring you back? Like what exactly was the process in that, in that moment? Oh, of course, my understanding was that one of the passengers noted that I had

collapsed in the flight deck and asked the flight attendant in the Ford galley, hey, is everything okay up there? They noticed, uh-oh, that's not right. Yeah. So I was removed into the galley. Fortunately, we had passengers deplaning the aircraft. One of which, which was a Navy corpsman, the other was an RN, and they began to render immediate assistance with CPR. At that time, I believe the AED was retrieved, hooked up, and that's a situation where the AED is exactly what is required. Right.

Your heart is in fibrillation. You need some defibrillation. So I received three shocks, so CPR and three shocks. It still hurts when I sneeze. It still hurts when I cough. No ribs were broken. It's just going to be sore for a while, which means, you know, that's CPR, you know,

it's to keep you alive. Yeah. So there's drastic problems call for drastic measures. So I did receive the shocks. The other thing that was quite fortuitous in my case was that apparently the fire department had been called out for an unrelated item at the very next gate or very close by to the aircraft.

So the paramedics were almost immediately on site. Wow. They didn't have to get in their car and drive from the remote fire station. They were right there. So the time from my collapse to the time that I was receiving care was minimal, which was integral into my survival, because if you look at the statistics for out-of-hospital sudden cardiac arrest, survival rates somewhere around 10%. And of those 10%, many suffer from

debilitating illnesses or problems, either mental faculty, optic nerves can be damp due to the anoxic conditions. So I consider myself extremely fortunate to be here and actually being able to talk you yeah I hope to maintain my somewhat high functioning status that would be nice and I think I have so I feel like I'm here for a reason yeah well I mean obviously it's important that you're telling the story and we you know we've covered a lot of these stories of people that are you know Bob Sagitts and whether or not it's caused by the vaccine is the question when you see these stories people just dead in their house and say well there's no proof there's no anything but when you think of your story had that happened in any other situation had you been in a hotel

had a flight you know your wife's not even in the the house you're all alone whatever the case do you survive that moment should that happen by yourself in a hotel room the odds are definitely stacked against you i would say if it is a actual sudden cardiac arrest where your heart doesn't restart itself into sinus rhythm you're not going to survive now what's sort of the the dark irony to this story is that you know the health of pilots is of all the professions out there There are very few that I think are, is, you know, rigorous about managing and observing the health of pilots. Am I wrong about that? I mean, we get the sense.

You hear about, you have sleeping, you know, rules of how many hours of sleep between flights you have to get. Obviously, alcohol consumption, you know, going up to flights. Are there physicals? Like, what is a part of the process of maintaining health and being secure so that the lives of hundreds of people on the plane are not? being put at risk you know what is that process it's highly regulated so I as a captain for a major airline here and I'm subjected to two FAA physicals a year okay which includes an EKG and that is sent to FAA or medical in Oklahoma City for review so you're looked at you know pretty closely then of course as I think in part of my

backstory is I have also been seeing a cardiologist for the last 10 years just for some very low blood pressure issues. Okay. Very minor, you know, kept on very low doses of lysinephryl just to manage that. So I also had that secondary EKG and the benefit of seeing a cardiologist for that period of time, just because it's mandated and they want to make sure that everything's okay. So yeah, we are, you know, looked at and scrutinized very closely. Yeah. And again, no warning signs whatsoever that of anything, any potential for this, no family background, no history for me, at least. But as far as pilots in general, yes, we are closely scrutinized without a doubt. very closely because of the safety sensitive nature of the job, obviously.

Yeah. You want the guys to be in good shape that are flying you commercially across the ocean or, you know, from point A to point B. Because the potential for potential downside of any sort of health issue in the flight deck can be significant. And so the, as I was saying, the irony is that you're forced to do something now that probably put that airplane and that cabin at more risk than at any other time. in your career and it's being done to improve your health, supposedly. As you look at this now and think about your story,

are you concerned with fellow pilots that are out there that, you know, may or may not be, you know, having similar issues and what could happen in the future? I mean, have you thought about beyond your own story? Is there more stories like this? Oh, I'm absolutely concerned. You know, this is the one-size-fits-all solution, and that's not really how health care should actually work.

Yeah. Just because you take 100 people in a room and administer an injection to them and everybody gets the same thing, the outcome may be different for different individuals in that room. So I have received phone calls from people that have expressed concern over their health, that they have presented issues and they are afraid to come forward. You know, I will certainly not go into great detail on that, but, you know, since this story has come out, they want to share with me that they have concerns also. Are you talking about other pilots or talking about other people that work in the airlines?

Absolutely. Absolutely. Wow. And obviously when you're saying they don't want to come forward, I would assume that's because as soon as they do, their potential for losing the job that they support their family with. Absolutely. Yeah. Once they, if they come forward and they indicate that they might be having some sort of cardiological issue, that's a stop right there. You know, now you are not technically fit to fly. Right. That's going to require some investigation. And I wholeheartedly encourage anyone who thinks that they may be having issues with particularly their heart to recognize that. Don't just push it under the rug or put it on a shelf somewhere and say I'll address this later that I don't think that this may be a major issue because it can be. I'm here to tell you this is a major issue. And if we can do the investigation, now that I feel is warranted in this case.

But unfortunately, there seems to be a lot of pushback against wanting to investigate any sort of vaccine injury. that this is such a politicized issue. But in the interest of safety, well, take me there. I mean, what's the airline at now? I mean, obviously they told you to get this. If you're saying there's other complaints, it shouldn't be lost than anybody.

The very vaccine you just took Johnson and Johnson last week, the FDA just basically pulled back from this recommendation saying there are real blood clotting issues, you know, associated with this particular vaccine. I think when we look at the others, but that one now has been selected out as being. problematic. American Airlines knows that, United Airlines knows that, Delta now knows that. They know their pilots have received this vaccination. Are they working with you? Are they

now saying, look it, for the benefit of society, help us with your story, let's use this to try and get a better understanding. What has been the interaction by the airline with you? You know, in a perfect world, that would be exactly the case. Yeah. The airlines would come to me in. We'd say, let's get this worked out. Let's figure out what's going on. The sad fact is I haven't heard one word from the airline. Really? Nothing. Not a word, not even a sorry that happened or some flowers or nothing. How does that make you feel? I mean over 30 years in this industry, you're at the top of your game, you already, you know, were sort of reticent and then this industry just turns a blind eye on on you in the moment where, you know, you've done what's right. I mean,

I would think, so no compensation, no special compensation, look, you're one of the rare few, even if it's a casualty of this process, we're going to take care of you and your family. I mean, if it's really rare in an industry that makes incredible amounts of money, I think we would assume that your family was going to be taking care of thanks for doing what was right. The only communication I've received is basically, have you gotten your disability paperwork filled in yet? So you can get that off to us for the standard disability that you fall under with. within the corporation. I've heard from the union.

They have contacted me, so at least I have received support from our collective bargaining association. As far as my employer is concerned, I have received nothing. Do you have any thoughts of bringing a lawsuit? You know, I think I'm not even contemplating all the options at this point. I'm still just trying to figure out going forward

what's best for me. I just had a cardiac MRI last Monday. So that's, you know, an hour and a half laying in an MRI and having at least imaging done to see what's going on. Then I'll, of course, have to consult with an electrophysiologist to ascertain what the plan will be going forward. Do they know what, I mean, did they really, have they diagnosed exactly what it is? Is it myocarditis? Is it something like that or is it still unknown? You ascertained. We don't have the answer to that question at this point in time.

Okay. I wish I could give you more definitive information, but I don't have it. When you look at your future now, you've got kids. College still ahead, right? I mean, big expenses. What is that, what are the thoughts going through your mind now? As a father-to-provider, I'm in the same position. You think about, you know, how important is we take care of ourselves. You were taking very good care of your health. As you look forward, what are the thoughts now? Well, obviously I'm concerned. You know, I'm an older dad. I'm 60 years old. I turn 60 in January. So it's not like I can go out there and just restart my career or you know, hope that, gosh, I hope I can finish out the last five years of my career here. You know, banging on the watch going to tick talk. So there will be a significant effect on my plan going forward. We were not making the salary that I was making as a senior captain for major airline. It's just it's not there.

So once I go on to disability, it'll be a. significant cut. But we're fortunate in one form in that, you know, we've planned going forward for the kids college. There are, you know, we put money aside and, you know, Coverdells and 529 plans. So at least, you know, some foresight into that. But no, it's going to hurt. It's definitely going to leave a mark. Now on the personal side, you know, many athletes like to teach their children to play the sports they're playing. Did you have thoughts of, you know, teaching your kids to fly, getting into those sort of talents that you have and sharing that? Absolutely.

My oldest daughter, Alexandra, she's 20. So she's a geology major because I insist that she has, you know, a marketable skill, if you will, outside of something that might involve sitting in a cockpit and working in the controls of an airliner or an aircraft. Yeah. But she does want to fly. I've got, you know, some time watching her, some time in a Cessna. and she's really put most of her attention into her college studies, which is where I want her to be.

I want her to get the degree and then do the flying on the side. So she still would like to pursue aviation. She's expressed a definite interest in that. So as any father, I was looking forward to sitting next to her and instructing her and watching her progress, but I'm not going to be qualified to do that now, as far as I know. How does it make you feel when you think about that? It's awful.

It's an awful feeling. It's part of the thing that I look forward to as a father has been taken from me. It's not going to be there. It's just the harsh reality at this point in the game. So your thoughts right now is, I mean, obviously you're going on to any talk show that you can, which I totally recommend. We need to get this story out there. I mean, for multiple reasons.

Those that have received the vaccine in all walks of life, very important story. Because so many doctors are just saying those aren't, that's just anecdotal, that's anecdotal. But if a lightning keeps striking the same spot at some point, you've got to take a look at what's happening there. We're just getting so many of these stories. But I'm flying this afternoon. I'm heading to England this afternoon on an airplane. And as you sit there, you want to believe that those pilots are in perfect health. And I am concerned because I know I have looked at what these vaccines are doing.

So I think it's so important that you're doing this. And we spoke a couple weeks ago. Obviously, you put that video right out. What is it that you hope by being public? What would you like to see happen? I just want people to understand that, you know, there are those of us out there, that the vaccine has potentially had a significant effect on their lives, up to the point of death.

You know, if it hasn't made them sick, if it hasn't given them myocarditis, paracarditis, then there are lasting effects that can happen, but it can also kill you. And this is, you know, the fact that they were willing to look at people like me as simple collateral damage is not acceptable to me. And I also want people that, for instance, other pilots, if they have issues concerning their health and they're fully vaccinated or they've received the vaccine and they think there might be having problems to absolutely step up, don't hide it. Don't shovel it under the car. Yeah. Get out there. See a doctor for your own health and for the health of those around you, particularly. if you're a pilot for the potential health of your passengers and the safety of the operation pursue it don't ignore it all right well i appreciate you getting that message out um you know

we're happy to be helping you with that mission it's a very very important mission uh i think you're a hero for speaking out so many people i think would remain quiet try to keep their you know life you know out of the limelight but i appreciate you stepping forward and just want to thank you taking the time to join us today. Thank you, Del. Right. Thank you very much. Well, you know, at the beginning of all this, when there was discussions about a mandatory vaccination, there was one pilot that was one of the first to speak out about it. Of course, I'm talking about Joshua Yoder. He was in the news and he made a lot of waves for saying, I don't believe pilots should be forced to get a vaccine. This is what that looked like. Joshua Yoder, he's a commercial

airline pilot. He's co-founder of the group U.S. Freedom Flyers. He joins us tonight. Mr. Thanks so much for coming on. Pilots who have raised questions about these mandates have been, as noted, dismissed as criminals, terrorists. Tell us your motive in resisting this mandate. My motive for resisting it is primarily religious for myself. Basically, I saw among my friends, I saw a need. Many of us don't want to take this. People were being coerced.

I believe in freedom. And I'm here to support the freedom of my fellow employees. and all people across this country. I'm not going to take a mandate. I'm not going to be coerced to doing something that I don't believe in. Well, it's my absolute pleasure and honored to introduce you to Josh Yoder, who joins me now. Josh, you've been a hero. You stood up when many others would not.

But in many ways, the mandates happened. You know, pilots complied. And we just spoke to the pilot Bob Snow, who shared this incredibly detailed you know, story, this horrific story of just moments after landing a plane collapsing, bringing in defibrillators, he had to be brought back to life, and now he's wearing, you know, as a form of a heart monitor that will shock him any time of the future should this happen again. My question to you, because you've sort of been on the front line to this, you know, one of the founders of the Freedom Flyers, is this story, is Bob's story an anomaly

because he said something that I found really shocking. He said there are other pilots, reaching out to him saying, I'm having health issues. I'm afraid to report it because I would lose my job. So my sense with him is he's not the only case. Are you hearing similar stories? Yeah, first of all, thanks for having me on, Dell. And I can tell you that no, Bob Snow is not an anomaly. This is something that I hear about every single day. I talk to pilots every single day. We're getting them health care. They're coming forward. They're actually afraid to come forward to the companies or to the unions because they're not receiving support there. And so, So essentially what the companies have done is they said, you know, we're going to beat you until you bleed and then we're going to beat you for bleeding.

You know, that's what we're seeing here. And these pilots, you know, when they come forward and they actually have a medical issue, their long-term disability is only a very small fraction of what they make, you know, when they're actually flying aircraft. And so pilots are essentially de-incentivized for coming forward with these issues that they're having. I can tell you, I know of so many cardiac events, people with myocarditis, paracarditis, they're being treated off the books who actually aren't telling the FAA and the companies. and they're flying and they're hoping that it goes away. And this is a major safety issue. This is something that the FAA and the companies and the unions need to address that on,

and they're not doing it. I can tell you, I've had personal meetings with the unions and with the airlines, and there is no appetite to go after this because they're admitting civil and criminal liability if they do so. So, Wynn, I mean, that's incredible. You make a really good point by, you know, not paying these pilots, like just saying,

look, sorry, you're a casualty of a decision we made for whatever reason. Let's take care of you. Your family. Bob said the exact thing. He's getting no phone calls back. He's getting disability pay, which is far below what he makes. He still has kids at home. They're going to have to go through college. So when you think about these pilots, he's not the only one out there. We as the passengers would hope that they would be incentivizing these pilots to step forward. If not, and these are guys that are going above altitude, right? Pressurized cabins. All of these things where the heart. is so important and you're saying that and it makes perfect sense, they're not coming forward

because they're going to be docked pay, they're going to have to try and figure out how to survive. Most of them having spent decades of their lives in this profession, where do you go? In Bob's case, where does he go? I mean, he's right on the verge of retirement age, what other, well, you know, paying job is out there. And so really great point. Now, these pilots then that are talking to you that are on the books for having periocarditis, myrocardias, blood clotting, things like that, that's not really legal for them to be flying. They're taking a risk. Are they not? Yeah, they totally are. It's not legal. But, you know, like we talked about, they're being

de-incentivized. And the FAA is not going to come forward and say, hey, we made a mistake. And we're going to make sure that we fix this. The companies aren't going to do it because they all have civil and criminal liability as to the unions. So essentially, we're in a standoff of sorts here that's happening. And what I'm trying to do at U.S. free employers is to find a solution. And these pilots are, you have to be a civil liabilities. need to know that they can come forward and they can get medical care and still be kept on on board at full pay. And that's why U.S. Freedom Flyers is bringing massive litigation. We're assuming the Department of Transportation for the FAA, all the major U.S. airlines. And these are going to be multi-billion

dollar lawsuits going after damages. You know, it's not just for the unvaccinated. It's for the vaccinated and the vaccine injured. It's for all of us. And we're going to hold these people accountable because if we don't hold them accountable now, they're going to do this again. You know, we know that airlines have been, have been exceptionally totalitarian over the last 40 years. And this is something, we're going to change this once and for all. This is something we're going to put a stop to it. And we're going to make this process so painful for them that they're going to think twice before they do it again. We partnered with the John Pierce Law Firm.

And I can tell you that firm is growing by leaps and bounds. And he's the only elite attorney in this country who is willing to take on these cases because they are very controversial. Wow. I mean, and so when you started this, when you sort of started speaking out, did you imagine it would get to this point where we, you know, we would be sitting here discussing pilots that are flying around. with, you know, blood clots, myocarditis, pericarditis, really risky not only their own lives, but the lives of the passengers. I mean, I know that's not what they want to be doing. I know these are good people, you know, pushed into a really bad situation. But did you think it was going to get this bad when you first decided to speak out? No, Del. I knew it was going to be a problem,

but I could have never conceptualized the size that U.S. freedom virus has grown into. You know, Now we have international partners as well in Canada and Europe and in Australia, Aussie Freedom Flyers and many other groups across the nation and across the world. And we're all banding together. Screen Actors Guild actually members are joining us here as well. And we're all experiencing the same issues. You know, it's ultimately totalitarianism. That's what we're fighting here.

And I never had a concept of just how bad it was going to get with the pilots. I can tell you that I have conversations every single day. And the things that I'm hearing are shocking. And honestly, it's heartbreaking. you know to hear these stories i had a flight attendant that called me here not so long ago she's just had her fourth stroke and she called me and said josh i don't think i'm going to live much longer and that started you know immediately after her second fiser shot so we we have a major issue on our hands here and it's literally going to take every single one of us banning together

to find a solution you know i would prefer i would prefer if we didn't have to go to litigation i wish these companies would step up to the plate and and actually do the right thing that's what we're trying to get them to do but in the absence in the absence of of uh voluntarily doing the right thing we're going to force them to do the right thing because ultimately here it's the human toll that we're concerned about whether that be the employee themselves or the passengers they fly well look i'm sure there's lots of people watching right now that i mean i know our entire audience supports your cause we here at the high wire and our non-profit informed consent action network has been very litigious we too i mean i never thought i would be bragging about lawsuits we're bringing

uh and winning against government agencies and and private institutions uh but this is the time we live in And as you said, people are not doing the right thing. Our governments are not doing the right thing. Industries are not doing the right things. Certainly our regulatory agencies are not doing the right thing. So we're left with no other options but to get out of sort of the government system and go into that judicial branch and try to make a difference. And I'm just so glad you're out there and so ferociously fighting,

both, as you said, for those pilots, for those flight attendants, but also the passengers that are riding in it. Where do we go? For those that want to support or get involved in the work you're doing or see more about it, What's the best place for us to find and track what you're doing? Sure. If you'd like to support us, please go to usfreyfrientliers.org and click on donate there if you don't mind. I can tell you everybody at US freedom flyers, one thing that makes our organization so unique is we're all volunteers.

I have never taken a salary from this organization, nor do I intend to. This is all about taking dollars and putting them to the best use, which is holding these large corporations accountable. What people need to understand is that airlines transcend national borders. And so when we make changes at the FAA, many civil aviation authorities around the world actually base their policies and procedures off of what the FAA does. So when we can force change at the FAA and we can force change at U.S. airlines, that has the ability to transcend borders and actually bring worldwide change. That's why these cases are so landmark, so important. And I'm asking everyone to please support us if it's $5 or $10, you know, give up a Starbucks coffee for one day. You're going to make a fundamental difference, not just for the employees involved, but for yourself and passenger.

Well, look, it's such an important point. I'm glad you pointed out, you know, volunteers. It just shows how dedicated you are to this. And believe me, I know these cases are not cheap. You're going up against multi-billion dollar industries that are also being backed by government funding that force this vaccine onto these pilots. So it's a tall order. But I know that truth prevails. And I know that, you know, at the end of this road, you know, we've had a lot of success in the lawsuits we've had. I know that this is. is the way forward. So you're doing the right thing. I guess my final question to you is, as we sit here in just a few moments, as soon as I finish the show, I'm going to be heading to hop on an airplane to go to England for a conference that's happening there. And I think the question on all of our minds, is it safe to fly right now? You know, what the FAA and the airlines and unions are counting on is something we know is pilot redundancy.

You know, so in the case of Bob Snow, you know, that was a near miss. You know, if that had happened at Cruz, you know, we obviously have policies and procedures in place. to deal with the incapacitation of a pilot, you know, it's not the first time that it's happened. Where we really run into an issue, and as Greg Pearson, who's a major airline captain, says, he says, you know, if I was at 100 feet and that's when I had my cardiac event,

you know, there's a strong possibility I could have pushed forward on the side stick, you know, flying an airbus, you know, with 40 airplanes lined up on the taxiway next to me. He said the outcome could have been very different for a lot of people. So, so, you know, pilot redundancy, that that's the word of the day,

that's what they're hoping for. So the co-pilot, that does work. Jumping in and saving the day, should lose but there are these fractions these moments where at the wrong time that may not be good enough take off and landing and we're looking at the law of averages here you know when you look at you look at the thousands of flights that go per day and then you look at the number of side effects that we're seeing at some point you know the genie comes out of the bottle wow well look Josh

I want to thank you for taking the time to join us I want to thank you for all the time and energy you're putting in this I know how much work that is you're busy we see you everywhere everyone. These are the types of things here at the high wire where you're not just a news organization that's going to sit here and tell you to sit on your your couches around the world and say, oh, that's too bad. We have one of the most active audiences that is out there. It's one of the things I'm most proud of. Not only is our audience intelligent and able to really drill down on science and things like that, they also step up to make a difference. This is how we make a difference, folks. This is how we vote with our dollars. This is how we, you know, make America that beacon of light

that leads the world, as he said, with the FAA. Please go to www.usfreedomflyers.org. Again, give up that Starbucks coffee this week and do it every once a month, and you can really make a difference. There's so many of us out there, you know, in some ways we're all competing for you, for that limited audience that is intelligent enough,

bright enough, and recognizes how important this is, but this is who you are. This is how you're making a difference in the world. And those of you that are donating to the informed consent action network and to freedom flyers, I hope that every time we win a lawsuit, when we announce those lawsuits and when we bring Josh Yoder back on to talk about the lawsuits, he's won and how we're changing the world, you get to be a part of that. This is how we come together. This is what this community is about.

So, Josh, thank you for leading our community of pilots and flight attendants and passengers on this journey. I want to thank you for your work and thanks for joining us today. Thank you so much, though. I appreciate it. All right, take care. Well, I mean, you know, all of this insanity, where did it come from, right? Where did this? Is this born in Wuhan? Who was behind saying this virus was so deadly that we all need to lock down? Who was behind saying that our only way forward is going to be a vaccine?

Who was behind saying that no other drug was going to work? I mean, you can point to Fauci's and you can point to different things. But throughout all of this, there has been one voice, one global, international voice that kept chiming in and telling us all what to do. Whether we were in America or Bangladesh, they didn't seem to care, but it was the same people. Of course, I'm talking about the World Health Organization, and this is what they've been bloviating about for the last two years. The World Health Organization declared the outbreak an international public health emergency.

I'm declaring a public health emergency of international concern. The World Health Organization has just declared. that this is a pandemic. COVID-19 can be characterized as a pandemic. When the World Health Organization, the WHO speaks, we listen. Although older people are the hardest hit, younger people are not spared.

I have a message for young people. You're not invincible. This virus could put you in hospital for weeks, or even kill you. Now we need to go and look in families to find those people who may be sick and remove them and isolate them. To change the course of the pandemic, we must change the conditions that are driving it. We feel very strongly that what has been demonstrated in a number of countries of reducing transmission can be done elsewhere. What that means is ensuring that aggressive, there's an aggressive and a comprehensive approach by all of the countries of reducing transmission,

by all people, by governments that really attempt to find all cases, find all contacts. The World Health Organization has told the BBC it believes the coronavirus pandemic will go on for a year longer than it needs to because of the unequal distribution of vaccines. It's dangerous to assume that Omicron will be the last variant or that we are in the endgame. The World Health Organization has just released a report estimating that 15 million deaths occurred globally, due to the pandemic around triple the current estimates. The paradigm shift in world health that's needed now must be matched by a paradigm shift in funding the world's health organization.

Well, as though the World Health Organization didn't have enough power through the pandemic, dictating policies around the world that it seems that almost every nation adhered to. Now they want more power over every nation. and the ability to move faster in their regulations and decisions to govern us. This is being voted on. A set of amendments are being voted on. The World Health Assembly agrees to launch process to develop historic global accord on pandemic prevention, preparedness, and response. To get into the details of this, I have invited two of the leading voices for the World Council for Health,

Tess Lorry and Shabnan Palaisa Muhammad. Thank you for joining me today. Absolutely. Thanks, Charles, for the invite. All right, you bet. And, you know, on your website, you have really laid out a lot of details that people can read about your concerns with these votes that are taking place, these amendments to the international health regulations. So, Shabnam, I've seen you, you've written many articles, just sort of give me a rundown of what you see is the problem or what we should be concerned about. with this meeting that's happening this week and the these amendments they're going to be voted upon.

Absolutely. So essentially the WHO is looking to use this coronavirus chapter to centralize health and take power for itself to make decisions on behalf of sovereign countries such as America, such as South Africa, such as the UK. And they're doing this through the amendments to the 2005 international health regulations. There are about 13 amendments there are looking at. to change or to amend, including increased surveillance, including unilateral power given to the Director General Tedros to decide if your country or your region has a public health emergency of international concern. Now, prior to these amendments, the WHO and Tedros would have to consult with our countries to decide whether we do have a public health emergency of international concern.

These amendments make it such that there isn't any consultation. He may consult. He doesn't doesn't have to. So of course this has massive socio-political and geo-economic considerations, especially when we're hearing rumblings about sanctions being enforced in certain countries that perhaps might not tour the line. So you're quite right 22nd to 28th May. These amendments are going to be proposed and potentially

adopted by the secret delegates to the World Health Assembly. Nobody knows who they are. And it's coming up in a couple of days. So no transparency, no public participation. And just to mention also, Dahl, that these amendments have come out of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. They were sent to the WHO on the 18th of January by the 20th. Ted Ross announced to the member states. So those representatives, we don't know that these amendments have been put on the table.

No participation process. That department did attempt a sort of manufactured consent process a couple of days ago. But as you know, that really isn't proper public participation. And so our position is the World Council for Health, but of course our many allies. I mean, this movement is growing at an exponential place because people know not only what the WH has done over the last two years with the mismanagement of the so-called pandemic, but also has a history of corruption and mismanagement due to conflicts of interest. So there's an exponential movement that's growing under the hashtag stop the who.

Right now it's stopped the IHR, but we'll get to stop the new pandemic a little later on. All right, you know, Tess, one of the things I've seen reported out there, and I think it's misreporting, is this idea that this is a brand new council being put together or, you know, treaty. But this is actually a treaty that goes all the way back to 2005. Just many of us were not paying attention to it. So when you look now at what they're attempting to do, it seems that we're already on a slippery slope. When you look at you have worked with the WHO and for the WHO. WHO, can you give us some perspective why now a group that you've worked with successfully and had good relations with? Why are you speaking out against this now?

You know, the WHO is made up of a lot of people, you know, working there. And the teams that I've worked with have been really hardworking and dedicated. But obviously, you know, this is a power grab from the very top. And this new, these proposed amendments to the international health regulation, you know, the most worrying for me is actually Article 12, which says that in the event of a potential or actual health emergency, so this doesn't just relate to pandemics. This is any health emergency, and that could be anything, that the Director General shall determine on the basis of information received. and that can be secretive information. It doesn't have to be declared. But it's potential or actual, so on a whim of a potential emergency in your region or in the world,

the Director General, this one individual who, you know, who there has been, there is a lot of concern about his history and experience, that he should have this power. And then, of course, we get 48 hours. Each country gets 48 hours to give a reason why they don't wish to accept the author of collaboration it's called. So I think... So hold on a second. So 48 hours. I mean, when I think about this pandemic, it seemed to me it took weeks at least for there to even be a consensus over what was really happening.

Here are the United States of America. Donald Trump, our president at the time, was saying, I want to shut down all flights coming into America. America right now. Everyone says, you're overreacting. That isn't, this isn't that big. You had here, Tony Fauci saying, this virus will not get here. It's not going to be a problem for the United States of America. And then some, you know, within 10 days, a week later, all of a sudden, you know, the, the languaging started changing. So it's hard for me to imagine in the face of any future pandemic, real or feared or whatever it is, that 48 hours is enough time. And I'm to determine for, you know, world-renowned scientists and the best of the best to come to some

understanding of what we're going to agree and not agree to. How, who came up with a 48-hour time period? That seems absurd. Yes. I mean, it is, it is absurd and the fact that, you know, this is in black and white in this document and that there, and that we, you know, as nation states, we have to give reasons why we don't want to have the Director General of the WHO making our health decisions for us is patently absurd, but it's there in black and white. Shabnam, when we look at these amendments, do they affect different nations differently? Do you think that they are more dangerous, perhaps, for, you know, smaller nations or those that are not well-financed?

You know, I would have to imagine no matter what's going on, the United States of America and England will probably be able to say, you know what, we're just not down. But, you know, does Africa, you know, do African nations have that type of power or, you know, New Zealand or somewhere like that? Can they stand up against this? I mean, do you think it's going to have an equal sort of footing with all nations, or will there be a difference in how nations are treated by the WHO? So that's, of course, a really good question. If you're asking a country that doesn't have the resources to come back to you within 14,

hours and then they don't. Not only do you malign them to the emergency committee, but you say, you know what, maybe we should look at sanctions against this country. And maybe this country has got resources like oil and diamonds. Wouldn't that just be very convenient? And so certainly there are certain considerations we need to bear in mind. I mentioned sanctions earlier on. And it is going to be quite a challenge to ensure that the delegates that are going to the World Health Assembly, whose names we don't know, are aware that we do not consent. And so therefore, there is this massive campaign now in every country. I mean, this is, this is massive. We've just heard about a legal action being launched at the High Court of the United Kingdom.

Basically, to have these amendments interdicted or stayed, there's lots of talk about it happening within the US, and I believe the US has to lead on this because that's where these amendments are coming out of. But in terms of Africa, we have the African sovereignty coalition with South Africa, Zimbabwe, Uganda, Kenya, and growing. We also have the Afro-Asian sovereignty coalition because we are trying to form a South-North collaboration in taking back our health, in building the better way. Surely there's got to be a better way than depending on the WHO and the farmer cartel to make decisions about our health. And of course, that's what the World Council for Health is all about.

There is a better way. We have no conflicts of interest. We're really interested in people's health and well-being. And so we're looking forward, Dell, to also unpacking the power grab by the WHO and to building the better way. At the Better Way conference, it's coming up, and we're delighted that you're going to be the program director there's going to be a very special spotlight on the WHO power grab on day three, which is Sunday in a panel called Law, Justice and Human Rights. I'll be co-hosting that event.

And we'll be in a nation with experts like Astrid Stichelberger, who also worked with the WHO and James Rogaski, who's just done brilliant work in this area. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to this. I mean, first of all, this is going to be one of the first times I'm going to get to be in person with many of the great scientists and experts around the world that have been appearing on the high wires. So for everyone out there, this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Starting tomorrow, the Better Way conference is being held in Bath, England. Of course, you're sold out, I know, for the in-person, but everyone, you can sign up online. And one of the beautiful things, these panels, this is, I like the format because it's going to be

these scientists and doctors interacting with each other, not just giving up and, you know, standing, giving, you know, a diatribe on their perspective, but challenging each other, trying to find, you know, camaraderie, ways forward. And even better is the fact that you have this question and answer at the end of every one of these panels, which is going to allow everyone out there, you're going to have the opportunity to write in, I will be on the other side of this, you can write in questions that I will be able to ask people like Dr. Robert Malone, Geert van der Boch, you know, Ryan Cole. I mean, I could go on, test, just give me the list of people that are going to be speaking at this conference over the next three days.

Yeah, well we've got a whole lot of people arriving in person which is amazing but also those who can't make it in person are appearing via Zoom. So for example to address the question of how do we reclaim science we've got Paul Alexander and got Brett Weinstein, Robert Kennedy, Robert Malone, Jessica Rose, Peter McCullough, Fair Fandand Bosch, Mary Hubna Mogg and myself on that panel. And Majid Nawaz is actually the host who will be asking the questions to those panelists. But, you know, every panel is just full of amazing doctors and warriors, people who have put their head above the parapet in the last two years to say something's not quite right.

Can we please ask questions and offer suggestions? So we've got Dr. Flavio Kedegiani from Brazil, Jackie Stone, Dr. Kat Lindley and Richard Erso, Ryan Cole, Alexandra Oman Corday from France. These are all, we'll be discussing how do we address the health consequences of the COVID-19 chapter. And we get to move on from that. It's not just about COVID these questions,

because what the last two years has shown us where we haven't been able to ask questions is that there are many. that there are many that we need to ask. So we have, how do we actively create a world in which people thrive? And that really is to motivate and inspire people and give them actions they can take to help create a better world. So I can go on, Del, if you want me to. Well, I mean, look, I think people can go to the website. Let's bring this up right now. And, you know, one of the things you said, Tess, that I like when we were talking right before this, you know, obviously, you know, right now people can pay to see this online. But you said,

Don't just, you're not looking for everybody. Pay, have a party. Have five, ten people come over to your house. Get online. Everyone sit around and get in the conversations that world-renowned experts are going to be hosting with each other. This is going to be an amazing event. That's why I'm flying all the way to England. I'm so honored to be emceeing this entire event for the whole weekend.

I mean, really, these are the best of the best from around the world coming together to try and make sure that this insanity that we've been through over the last two years, years and is really being promised to us to start again right around the corner. We've got Bill Gates saying, you know, don't count out Omicron next. The more deadly version could be coming. I mean, these people seem obsessed with the idea of a pandemic. When prior to this moment, a pandemic tends to happen like once every 50 years. You get this sense with where the WHO is going, how Bill Gates is talking, that we're going to have

pandemics like every year, every other year. I mean, I hope I'm wrong. But it sure seems like this is like this new way of getting us all to comply to how we move about this world and being put in the hands of a much smaller group of people. That's why I think it's so important. And the voices that you're bringing in, you're, I mean, you hadn't originally been set up at a public location for this, but got kicked out essentially, right, Tess? Yes, yeah. Well, our locations are very secure now and we have no doubt it's going to be a great success, bringing every. together to create this better way. We don't have to accept the dystopian option.

We can make our own way and it's going to be beautiful. All right. So everybody just starting tomorrow. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead, Shabna. I've got this big news that I want to share with you and your audience and that is that the WHO is very well aware that there is a resistance to this power grab. How do we know this? Tedros had a media briefing and I'll quote what he said. Unfortunately, there's been a small minority of groups making misleading statements and purposefully distorting facts I want to be crystal clear. WHO's agenda is public, open and transparent. Of course, it's none of those things. WHO stands strongly for individual rights. We passionately support everyone's right to health

and we'll do everything we can to ensure that that right is realized. Talk about sovereignty and the WHO's job and essentially says the WHO's mandate is 100% determined by members of what they agree. So he's not laid all the blame on these delegates to the World Health Assembly, not necessarily I think. I just think this is something to be excited about. They know there's a resistance. We're in the most part of history. The great awakening is here. And the power of the people is always greater than people in power.

Well, I agree. And I want to play a video for you. This is, you know, Tadros. And one of the things that bothers me about this guy, as you pointed out, my understanding is he's up for re-election, but he's running unopposed. apparently he's like the best guy in the world the guy running the WHO is not a doctor himself which means he's totally vulnerable but to all the pressures of the funding and where the w h0 funding's coming from bill and melinda gates foundation and bill gates himself being one of the major funders china's involved in that pharma obviously hugely behind this but i have a problem

when you don't have a doctor that is saying give me the power to unilaterally make decisions that i don't even have to ask any of the other scientists around the world especially when i see videos like this. This is him talking about herd immunity, which is a term that all of us learned in school, even in high school, and he's flipping it on its head as though he has no concept what he's talking about. Take a look at this really quick. There has been some discussion recently about the concept of reaching so-called herd immunity by letting the virus spread. Heard immunity is a concept used for vaccination in which a population can be. protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached. For example,

her immunity against measles requires about 95% of a population to be vaccinated. The remaining 5% will be protected by the fact that measles will not spread among those who are vaccinated. For polio, the threshold is about 80%. In other words, herd immunities achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it. Never in the history of public health has heard immunity been used as a strategy for responding to an outbreak, let alone a pandemic. It's scientifically and ethically problematic. All right, Tess, you're, you know, a scientist, a doctor, you are, you know, have been to deeply involved in helping people around the world, both in using pharmaceutical products and

developing studies around it. But herd immunity is a term that has always been based on natural infection. It has been commandeered by the pharmaceutical industry to say what the new definition that Tadros is giving it, that herd immunity references being vaccinated. That I'm correct in saying that is not the case. Herd immunity is a term that is based ultimately beginning, you know, back in the early 1900s just following things like measles and how it would sweep through a county or an area and then once it had that immunity that was achieved from the infection and then blocked it from coming back. So when you hear him making statements that are factually not true and then furthermore saying that we've never used a policy of herd immunity,

I mean whether or not we named the policy of herd immunity up until this pandemic, that's exactly what we did. During the last SARS outbreak, which was a far more deadly, looked like a far more deadly virus. We didn't rush out and vaccinate the world. We, you know, we made some attempts of vaccinations, many of them a failure, but we let people make their own decisions. And that virus went right away. I mean, it disappeared on its own, didn't do the damage we thought. In this case, we vaccinated the world to achieve this vaccinated herd immunity. And we're now being told we will never hit herd immunity. We're going to have to learn to live with it for the first time ever. So I have major concerns.

that this is the guy that's going to make decisions when every decision they made in this pandemic is the first time we've ever done it this way. We broke away from natural herd immunity, and now we're in real trouble because we can't get there some saying because of the vaccine program. Tess, what are your thoughts on that and the statements he's making as a doctor yourself? Well, that's not the first redefining of terms that the WHO has come up with over the last two years. they keep redefining terms that we have been, you know, that are in our dictionaries. So, clearly, they think we're idiots, and they can tell us any old thing and we'll believe it. And, you know, secondly, it's very Orwellian, the way that they are redefining things

and removing evidence, removing previous webpages from their... their website where the old definitions have existed or where some sort of evidence exists or some sort of document exists that they should have of a process they should have adhered to so it's like they're there they're you know it's very deceptive and and it's and owellian as i say you know it is literally 1984. Yeah. No, I've been saying in many ways, this feels like the prequel. We didn't know how they got the control in the books 1984, Brave New World, what had happened that set up that world. Well, as it turns out, we gave the World Health Organization power over every nation in the

world to be able to start a fake war with a virus that was, you know, invisible and thereby locking us down or doing whatever they needed. Shabnam, I know you're about to catch a plane We got to get you moving on. You're in an airport. You're heading to the Better Way conference. Just any last thoughts? I know you're going to share a lot at that conference. And we're all looking forward to that.

But any last thoughts on this issue with the WHO? Well, I want to say that the WHO and the UN and the W.E.F and all of their handlers have grossly miscalculated. In my analysis, these amendments to the IHR and their new pandemic treaty, they want to finalize in 2024. Operating in lockstep is the biggest mistake they've ever made. I think the people are going to pressurize national delegates to the World Health Assembly to defund and to withdraw this dinosaur organization that does not serve the needs of the 99%. We have the wisdom and the intelligence and the compassion amongst us. We're going to build a better way for a better world. And I look forward to seeing everyone at the Better Way conference this weekend.

Tess, it's one of the things I've been saying. We could get really negative and depressed about what we've seen. but in so many ways the world has woken up because of what we've been through so many people, as you're saying. Tadro is seeing what he wants to call a minority. Bill Gates has said the same thing. A very vocal minority. I think it's the majority now.

You have the majority of Americans now resisting the booster shots that are being recommended by the CDC. I think we've lost confidence in these governing bodies. It's amazing that at the moment where we have less confidence than we've ever had, that they're grasping for more power. But this is the opportunity to take this momentum that we have and build a new world, a better world. In some ways, going back to the scientific method that I think we've abandoned, get back to what science does. Tess, just tell me, you know, what are you hoping is achieved by the Better Way Conference that's coming up starting tomorrow? Well, we all come together and seize this opportunity for great change and, you know, design the world that we want, really from scratch.

That's where we're at. It's the most amazing opportunity. Let's do it. All right. Well, if you want to be a part of that test, thank you for joining me. Shabnam. I really appreciate you taking the time. I will see you just in a few hours in Bath, England. And for those of you that can't make it, but want to be a part of it, this is the Better Way conference. I'm about to race out of here and run to the airport so I can get out to the UK to Bath for this incredible event. I don't normally travel that far, but this really, I think, is a special event. And I think if you have the time, it can be, you know, make yourself a part of it online, virtually, ask, you know, some of the leading authorities, the questions you want to ask, it's going to be a wonderful thing. I also don't want to point out this whole World Health Organization discussion.

Tess Lori and the World Council for Health have a website they put up where it really gets in the details. You can read about it there. And then also sort of a, you know, things that you can do. You can go to hashtag stop the treaty, World Council for Health's open letter on the WHO's pandemic. Treaty and that gives you links to the WHO so that you can write in. You can send an email. It has some templates. For all of you watching right now, all of this is made so much easier. You don't have to like write it down. All you have to do is be on our newsletter right now. If you sign our newsletter right now at the end of the show, go to the highwire.com right on the page

most of you are watching it, just scroll down and just put your email in there. We don't share it. We don't sell you anything. This is just important information. You will get the links to the WHO to the World Council for Health's website so that you can, you know, be involved and make a difference. I also want to point out just a couple hours from now, for those of you in California, especially in the, you know, San Francisco area, a huge rally going on. I wish I could be there. Of course, I'm headed the U.K., but a rally to stop censorship. In attendance, great speakers, you know, Robert Kennedy Jr., Kevin Jenkins, Dr. Brian Hooker, Naomi Wolf, amongst so many others.

So Thursday, May 19th, Menlo Park, California, location 3 to 6 p.m., of course, that's on the West Coast. Definitely get out there. That's going to be an amazing event. We support all of these rallies that are trying to make a difference. Censorship, such a big issue. When I look back at this show today, there really is a theme, I think, that is going on here. It's one that we have to remember because there's been a lot of panic around this WHO meeting. As, you know, some of it's warranted.

If it takes panic and getting our adrenaline up to make us actually go to a website or send an email or do something, then by all means, go ahead and let your adrenaline come up. But I want to make this point. No WHO governs my body or the bodies of my children. I still live in the United States of America. I have a constitution that protects my rights. I have a bill of rights. And I elect politicians that enforce my rights, those rights given to me by God. They don't enforce rules against me.

Our government is not there, though we seem to have lost track of this. The government is not there to tell me what I can and can't do. And our Constitution is not there to sort of control me. Our Constitution is there to control our government, to keep them on a leash. Remember, our founding fathers essentially said government is a necessary evil. We've looked across the world and all of the different ways to govern. There is no perfect solution. This capitalist system, this republic is the best that we could find.

But they warned us. Do not overfeed this rabid dog. Don't ever let it get out of control. Don't ever let Central Reserve banking. Don't ever let your free news get censored. Or you will see this entire thing we've built. It is on fragile ground. You will always have to be vigilant to hold on to your freedoms, to hold on to your liberty.

So far we've achieved that. so many in this world are waking up. So before you really lose your mind over this WHO issue, remember, we just saw a courtroom say that masks and the mask mandate on airplanes was not constitutional. And then suddenly everybody took their mask off. Why were we wearing them to begin with? What we now found out was we were living a lie. We were giving power to a law that had no authority over us. We gave it that power. We are the ones. We are the ones. We are the people in charge. We are the majority.

We are the voice, especially in free countries like this great nation, the United States of America. So in some ways, yes, write the WHO, stand up. We don't want to go down this slippery slope. But remember, the WHO has no authority over this country. Now you know the questions you better be asking, though, in these elections coming up this year. Do you believe in giving the WHO authority? Should the WHO override our Constitution?

If you even see them stutter on that question, that is a gigantic no box when it comes to the elections here in the United States of America. We have rights. There is no international global body that is going to take those away, not while I'm alive on this earth, not while the high wire is here, and not while we stand as free citizen in this country. Don't worry about it. We got this. And we're going to lead the world with our light, with our liberty, with our friends. Freedom. Watch how we do this and join in. This is what the Highwire believes in. This is what we're about. We're going to stand in the truth. We're not going to bow down to illegal authorities or illegal laws. I'll see you next week.