The Hilary Silver Podcast - #86: From Walls Up to Wide Open: Meryl’s Reset on Love & Life
Episode Date: October 17, 2025If you’ve ever rejected a man because his name annoyed you… this episode is for you. Hilary sits down with award-winning interior designer and unapologetic former love-skeptic Meryl Stern, wh...o admits she once dismissed perfectly good men for crimes like “bad vibes” and “unfortunate first names.” (Her words.) But beneath all that discernment? A woman hiding behind a beautifully curated emotional wall. Inside Ready for Love, Meryl didn’t just “work on herself” — she resigned from decades-old childhood roles, stopped earning love by overgiving, and rewired her identity from martyring do-it-all to woman who actually receives. Now, she runs a luxury design firm with her daughter, just completed a 12,000 sq ft project featured in Architectural Digest, and treats dating the same way she treats client selection: You don’t pick me. I pick YOU. She’s single, self-possessed, and fully uninterested in settling, which, around here, counts as a success story. Episode Highlights: When “I’m just independent” is actually code for I don’t trust myself to choose well Why nitpicking men is just fear in fancy clothes The homework assignment that broke her identity wide open How healing self-worth bleeds into business, leadership, and money Dating rule #1: You don’t get picked—you pick Episode Breakdown: 00:00 Meet award-winning designer & RFL alum Meryl 02:00 The moment she realized her “independence” was actually a wall 05:40 How journaling cracked her open 08:10 The resignation letter that rewired her self-image 12:30 Building a business with her daughter (without killing each other) 16:45 Her three-year AD-featured dream project 18:50 Current relationship status? Selectively single 20:30 The real measure of success: Would the old you tolerate this? ✨ I’m Hilary Silver, LCSW, former psychotherapist turned master coach and founder of Ready for Love. I help high-achieving women show up in love as confidently as they do in their careers. 💡 Through this podcast, I share my WOMAN-centered, SELF-centered approach—time-tested methods that blend psychology, brain science, relationship skills, and no-BS dating advice. 🎙️ Since 2017, we’ve helped over 10,000 women with a 98% success rate, making Ready for Love the #1 program in the world for women who’ve tried everything else. ✨ Ready to stop repeating the same patterns and finally create the love you deserve? 🎯 Watch my free masterclass to learn the proven 4-step Ready for Love Method: https://readyforloveinc.com/masterclass 💬 Apply for a free Love Breakthrough Call with my team: https://readyforloveinc.com/apply
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It took me until, you know, after graduating your program to realize, to realize that
the imperfections are what make me me and make me special.
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Hey, everybody.
Welcome to the Ready for Love podcast.
I'm so excited because today we are joined by a very special guest, Merrill Stern.
I'm going to tell you about who she is in just a second.
But one of my favorite things about the Ready for Love platform and company and program
is that we get to work with the most elite and extraordinary women on the planet, people who I would never
have got to meet otherwise because they're all around the world doing the most amazing things
and they're smarter than me in so many ways and talented. And so today, Merrill is one of our
graduates. And she, in her own word, says, I'm many things. But she is actually an award-winning
interior designer. And she just co-founded a new design firm with her daughter called the Stern
studio and it is a very luxury global inspired residential and hospitality firm. And you can tell
if you're watching this on YouTube, not just listening, that you can tell her style because right
behind her is all this gorgeousness. We were joking that we have a similar aesthetic because her
background looks very similar to mine. But welcome, Merrill. Thank you so much. It's great to be
here. I'm so happy that you're here. You're one of my favorites of all time. We've just really bonded
over the years.
Absolutely.
So I'm excited to talk to you.
We're going to dive in and we're going to share with everybody kind of what your experience
has been from the very beginning, like where you were and what you were struggling with
when you signed up and then where you are now.
So why don't we start with that?
Tell everybody kind of what was going on with you and what were your, what was like
your pain points, I guess, at the time.
I had gone through a whole kind of journey, a traveling journey and I had moved
across the country and for like, I don't know, I guess.
five years then I moved back. And it was very obvious to me that I was not focused on dating at all
and that I had kind of built a wall. I dated a little bit, you know, here and there. But I was just,
everything was a no to me. And I knew I needed help. You popped up on Facebook. Thank goodness.
And, you know, that's how it started. Yeah. So were you aware of the wall? Like you started to notice the
wall that you were closed off? Yeah, totally. It was aware of the wall, didn't know how to break it down.
Yeah. And what was that looking like? Were you just, everybody was, you were picking apart
the people that were interested in you or you felt yourself being closed or you weren't going
out anymore? Like, what was the wall? I think I was just very comfortable being alone.
And I, and from doing the work that I did with you, I know why. But yeah, I think, like,
the guys that I would go out with, I would find what they didn't have for me.
instead of focusing on the really important things, I mean, honestly, like, if I didn't like
their name, I would swipe left. Like, that's ridiculous. Yeah. Well, that's like nitpicking because
women do that when they're like backing themselves into a corner, right? Like, no, not him. No,
not him. No, not him. Because it's scary to say yes. It's scary to it's, I guess I just didn't
trust myself or anyone else at the time, you know, that this could work out. Everything was a no.
and I needed to really do a deep dive and figure it all out, which is how I started with you.
Yeah. And how long had you been single? Do you remember at the time?
I mean, I had been divorced, I guess, about 10 years. I had a few, a couple on, you know, on and off long-term
relationships. But I, the reason they were on and off is because I was never going to fully commit to
them. I knew that they weren't the right ones for me. But they were great guys. So,
you know, you kind of wonder back and forth, you know, is this the guy? Is this not the guy?
You're balancing like the pros, the cons. When you pick the guy that you know isn't the one,
it's easy to just kind of be half in and half out, you know, like it's kind of like you're non-committal.
Okay. So then when, like what was going on in the program that were, what were some of the
takeaways, I guess, the breakthroughs or the ahas for you early on in the program?
So early on in the program, the most incredible thing to me was the way you structured it,
honestly. The modules, we had weekly Zoom meetings with a community, which was so supportive
and so, you know, wonderful. And then we also had the recordings that we could listen to over
and over again. We could, you know, we're busy, we're working. We have kids, whatever it is.
We could stop it, pick it up again. You know, I loved doing that. And then I think the really most
important thing was the homework, was the writing down, the journaling, the questions, and
really forcing you to do a deep dive. There's something about pen to paper that is different
than typing. And, you know, I think I just came across some research study about that. I'm like,
yes, that's why we do it. And that just reinforced why it's important to do the pen to paper for
sure. You actually, I remember in the first module, I think it was like figuring out what your role was in
the family when you were young and how that, you know, came forward with you and how is that working
for you now. And then you had to quit, resign and you had to write a resignation letter, which was
brilliant. Yeah. Because you literally have to think of, you know, the reasons why you're resigning and why
you don't need to be that role anymore, you know. Yeah, I love that. And,
actually that is one of my favorite tools of all time. I learned that in undergrad when I was
19 years old, interestingly enough. Like I didn't make that up, but I, it stuck with me all these
years. It's just so profound. It is. It works. And what were some of your roles? Like,
what were you doing that you, do you remember that exercise? Yeah. I, when I was younger, I had to
prove that I was brave and kind of do everything.
I was very opposite from my mother.
I kind of had to take on all these roles that I didn't like.
Like she worked.
She had to work full time.
My parents were divorced when I was very young.
And our house was very dark.
And I just remember like having to find ways to bring light into my life.
And to this day, light, physical light, is very important to me.
And I know why. I think I know why. You've been doing it since you were a little. I was doing it since I was little. I, because we didn't get along, there were a lot of reasons. I kind of grew up behind a closed door. So I think that's why I like being alone. Very comfortable being alone. Yeah. It's always alone. My mother, I'm not saying bad things. We're just very different. She didn't like to spend time together. She would get home from work and go right up to her room and shut the door, her bedroom. You know?
Um, we didn't always have dinner together. We just, we didn't do any family vacations or anything like that. So,
um, I had to find ways, you know, for it to work for me. I love that we got to dismantle all of that
bullshit. I know. And it's gone. Bye. That was goodbye. Does it work anymore? You don't need it anymore.
Right. Okay. So, so, so that was one. Anything else that like, you feel like you've really carried forth?
There's so much. I don't even know where to start.
I mean, I learned who I was and why I behaved the way I did. And I learned what I had to do to rewrite, you know, my story. I was a people pleaser. I wasn't, I thought I needed to be like a martyr. So I would be good enough. And actually, that is the opposite to me now. I needed to learn to take care of me because I was taking care of everyone else. And that wasn't working at the end of the day. You were care. I mean, again, like we go back to the
our programming and our conditioning and our training. And this does always go back to childhood.
And what we don't do in the program is belabor that and sit and spin in it like therapy can do,
right? We look at it, but it's really to go back to those origin points, find those really
seminal moments. Right. It impacted us and chart a new path forward and rewrite that. And that sounds
like what you were saying about rewriting the story. Totally. I mean, I think probably my biggest thing was
not being good enough. In so many ways, I was not good enough, I thought. Or I was told that I was
not good enough. Which is crazy. Which is crazy. And it took me until, you know, after graduating
your program to realize, to realize that the imperfections are what make me me and make me special.
So what does that mean? Not good enough. Like, okay, so I've got like old looking arms right now.
you know what that's me and that's great you know people who have like you know a little freckle or a dimple
that's what makes them unique and like admirable yeah we can appreciate it in other people can't
we right so it's hard to just mirroring accept it in ourselves yeah right you know like all the
plastic surgery and everyone's getting a facelift now and like everything's going on I look at some
of these people and I think you're so beautiful and literally it's not all about physical beauty
like you're still your person and everyone's still going to love you it doesn't really matter
you know that you got you know work done so and people want to get the work done and they're
going to get it done but it is about the inner like making peace with the things that we
learned about ourselves that were unlovable which we thought were unlovable yeah didn't have
confidence it's really a lot about confidence and a lot of what I learned in your course also
translated into business.
Oh, tell us.
Absolutely.
Like mentoring and teaching others, you know, it just, it's all wrapped up.
It's really, you know, it's not like, what's the word, like separate boxes, you know?
Yeah.
It's not isolated to just love.
And that's what I love.
I mean, all of our business owner clients write this off on their expenses because it is really
identity work.
Oh, it is.
When you're working, when you expand your identity, that part, like you're, I, I,
I call it being the sun in your own universe, like everything orbits around you.
Right.
So, of course, like, so we, we shared at the beginning of the show that you just started a new
design from with your daughter.
Right.
So that's interesting.
I mean, that's got to be loaded.
So how have you, how do you navigate that?
She has worked for me on and off her entire life, obviously, because I've been doing this
over 30 years.
And she's taken on projects on her own, you know, her friends or friends of friends.
And she's done a beautiful job.
is really incredibly talented.
She also has a set of young eyes where I am 30 years into the business.
So that's really important to me.
You know, I don't know that generation like she does and what they like and what they're
looking for and how to promote it, how to market it, all of that.
She knows all of that.
She did not go to school for it, which is totally fine.
I think it's great to go to school, but you learn so much when you're in the business.
So after this back and forth, she finally decided she would join me.
and didn't want to work for me, wanted to partner with me.
So we literally rebranded.
It used to be Merrill Stern interiors.
Now it's the Stern studio.
So we're equals.
And we have an 10 a.m. phone call every single day and, you know, different jobs and things
that we unite.
And it's going great.
That's amazing.
I mean, that is the ultimate dual relationship.
That's what it's actually called when you.
in your lane. Right now, I'm not your mother. I'm your partner. You know, you have to know
how to do that. Yeah. Yeah, you kind of code switch. You code switch. But I mean, I think that
requires really strong emotional intelligence and boundaries and communication skills. How has your
business mindset grown or how has the business grown or what, how has has the work on yourself
transferred over into business. Well, most of it has to do with confidence. You know, when you are
picking your person, that's kind of the same as picking your client. It's not that your client
picks you and it's not that your guy picks you. You pick them. Yeah. So that's a big thing. Can we just,
let's just stop because that's a really big paradigm shift, especially in the business world. Right? We've talked about
that because after ready for love, you stuck around for a little while and did some of the business
mentoring too with me. And it is. We don't, ready for love doesn't just take anybody. You know,
our coaching programs, we, we are very selective because we're looking for the women that we know
are going to actually do the work and get the result. So for you, you're not just going to take
any client who's willing to pay you. You get to pick too. Right. 100%. I mean, they're, you know,
red flags for boyfriends. They're red flags for clients.
yes yeah yeah so being discerning and trusting your gut and paying attention to your intuition and
knowing your value which is also part of knowing you're good enough you know learning um how to
communicate that's a whole other there's just so much there's i'm a student forever you know as well
as a leader and a mentor you know or a teacher whatever you're both that's your journey yeah i love
that i do too i mean i do too and i but i also
want to say like there comes a time when yeah we want to be open to learning new things otherwise
we're not growing but i truly believe at the end of the ready for love program women and this is
because one woman told me this her testimonial that she gave me years ago was i can stop seeking
the answers to what's wrong with me like it didn't feel like she was constantly seeking how do i
fix myself what's wrong with me she was able to just start reading books for pleasure it was no longer
about self-help, self-help, self-help, fix me, fix me. So yeah, we want to learn and be open to
things, but there's just a difference around like what you're being open to learning versus
needing to prove that you're okay or something like that. Yeah, it's not the proving that you're
okay. It's like you get yourself into a different situation. For example, I was just reading a book,
I forget the name of it, but it's like learning to speak to your adult children. Yes,
they're still your children, but they're adults now. So you have to shift. That's important for a lot of
parents. They do not do that. Yeah. What are we celebrating? I know you had that big feature in
architectural digest. Tell us all about that. I really was so lucky and grateful and deserving to
win this amazing client. It's a younger couple. When we started, they had just gotten married.
The project took three years to complete, and so now they have a three-year-old, well, almost three years, three.
And they trusted me 100% to start from scratch.
I literally drew this house on paper based on, you know, our discussions and what I thought would be great.
And they totally went with it.
I then handed it off to an architect.
I'm not an architect.
but I love space planning.
It's almost like a puzzle.
Like how does it make the most sense for things to come together?
And where do you want to spend?
How do you want to feel in your space?
Where do you want to spend the most time?
Are you a big entertaining family?
Are you a private family?
Do you work from home?
All of these different things, you know.
So they just, usually I do all these big presentations.
They really trusted me so much that they didn't even want to see
most of it. I mean, they would look at it and just say, oh, just do it. Well, that's a dream
client. Like, who doesn't want that kind of a client? But you know what the, the reward of all of it
was that obviously it worked because my goal, my biggest business goal was to get into AD.
Since I'm like a young kid, that was the top magazine. So the fact that they took this was just
it worked out like all around. That's amazing. So they got what they wanted. You got three years is a lot.
long time. Yeah, well, it was a build, you know, it was a total build. Yeah, wow. 12,000 square foot
house. Every little detail, like all the little vases and stuff. There was nothing, nothing that I did
not do, I think, except the gate in the front. Oh, my gosh. There is. Can you, do you know exactly,
I'm sure you do? Share with the listeners in case everybody wants to go check it out. What is the,
what is the volume or the, you know, which year or month?
It's digital.
Okay.
So if they go to the Stern Studio, you can see it on there.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's not like, that's not how they do it anymore.
So it's, it's digital.
It's not in print anymore?
I mean, it's very, AD's print is like a pamphlet right now.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
I mean, I have it on my shelf, I think.
You probably have it on yours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And of course, I still, you know, get the physical ones.
I love them.
Yeah.
But, yeah, it's mostly.
it's mostly digital and if you're on you can sign up for it and they also take a lot of
celebrities like that I'm not a celebrity so but that's what they're interested in so it's
really amazing that you got in there then that's like seriously yeah so exciting I love so yeah see
we love I just love celebrate I told you all that I get to work with the best the best of the best
most interesting dynamic powerhouse women and so of course everybody wants to know what's going
on in your love life tell us the wins the loses the ups the downs you know tell us i can't say i'm
with anyone right now i i think i am just really aware of who i am i'm not the swiping left on
names anymore obviously but um i'm aware of what my real priorities are and needs are and if
that person is not aligned with me then we're
not a match. I would rather be alone than be with someone, you know, that's going to be a lot of work
and we're not aligned. So yeah, that's kind of where I'm at right now. Yeah. Well, I mean,
our 98% success rate has nothing to do with women finding a person. You know, a lot of women do.
They have rings on fingers and, you know, houses that they build. A lot of them do. But actually,
what I love the most is when women just show up differently, more powerfully, more aware,
more knowing their worth and their value. And women say the old me would have stayed with this
person and made it work, but the new me broke up with him. So I love celebrating breakups
because of that very reason. So the success rate is based on women saying, I came away from
this experience, a better me in so many ways. That's the win. That is the way. That is the
win. And that is 100% true. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think the world should take your course because it's not
just about love, like you said. It's really about being the best you can be. Your first printout was
get the love you want. I crossed it out and wrote, get everything you want. I love it. That's the
truth, though. Yeah, that was the name of the program when I first started because honestly, I didn't
have any idea how big it would get. And I knew there was a book by Harville Hendricks called Get the
Love You Want from a long, long, long, long time ago. And I couldn't think of a better name.
So I was like, that's exactly what I want to be teaching. So that's what I'm going to call it.
But as we grew, it became a conflict. You know, they're, of course, trademarked. So I had,
I think I just didn't realize how big we were going to get and how that that would be a problem at some
point in the future. So we had to rebrand and change the name from get the law. I mean, I mean,
I mean, and look what happened.
It just so bold.
Yep, it did.
Mike, look where we are now.
Yeah.
Thank you for coming on the show and telling everybody your story and being vulnerable.
I know it's not easy to broadcast, you know, the intricacies of your psychology and your relationship, love life story.
But I think when women are willing to share, it just helps other women see what's possible.
I love to do that because I get value from them doing it too.
so yeah i'm so happy to that you asked me to do this and i had this one area in my house that i
want you to help me with will you help me absolutely we yes i can tell we we get along style wise
in every other way too but we're aligned we can have a relationship we can and dual relationship
even well thanks merrill and and check out uh the stern studio dot com so that you can see all of
Merrill's amazing work. And I'll see you guys next time. Thanks for being here.
