The Hoely Hour - E107 Women In STEM!

Episode Date: October 21, 2022

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Initial plan term only. Greater than 50 gigabytes. May slow when network is busy. see terms i feel like i should apologize for my level of tipsy this is like no this is so great season one tipsy liz i'm so sad that i'm not drinking now that you're tipsy well we're gonna have an episode where we just like maybe we should do like a um drunk history yeah both of us just had the worst idea we've ever had welcome to the holy hour a podcast about sex relationships mental health and everything in between i'm amelia samson and i'm liz ball follow us on instagram and tiktok at the holy hour i'm on instagram and tiktok at amelia samson and i'm on instagram and tiktok at liz ball so hard you

can also watch us on youtube or listen ad free on patreon at patreon.com slash the holy hour check out our merch at theholyhour.com and email us your spicy stories at holy hour podcast at gmail.com i feel fancy as hell today i do too i got my big scrunchie and my high pony yeah you have a whole like moment going on yeah covered in cat fur but i like to dress up for you wow i want you to think i look nice you literally always do i'm so happy you sent me that video of you of like asking about the scrunchie because i would have shown up a total fucking mess but i tried today i think you always look so beautiful thank you so much for saying that you're like a little ray of sunshine that is so nice of you to say when i went downstairs i don't know how you're

gonna pull off my goth birthday party i'm so excited you are an angel i'm like go i'll be a goth angel okay i love that i'm so excited actually i might steal that idea for a future costume goth angel what are you doing do you know what you're wearing for your birthday oh yeah yeah i can show you it's not anything special i shared it in i think the group chat that we had oh that's right yeah yeah yeah it's like a selkie dress that kind of looks like an elevated wednesday adams fun and i was gonna get some fishnets and i just got these like knee-high uh giant steve martin boot or steve martin steve madden boots i would love steve martin honestly Steve Martin boots would probably be a serve yeah absolutely just like banjos all over

them and shit um did you know that that man plays the banjo in like a band I did not he's like a really good banjo player what is that reference because I maybe I haven't seen enough Steve Martin to know he is in a band he tours with his banjo band I love that yeah um Liz's birthday is the only holiday that I or party in general that I always that I will ever buy like costume pieces for and I feel blessed and honored to be that person it's true I mean that from the bottom of my soul I'm so excited do you want to talk about your birthday coming up because this is the episode before your birthday that's true my birthday is on Saturday so the day before this comes out maybe you're listening on my birthday so um happy Liz's birthday to you happy Liz's

birthday to you and i'm just having a little uh goth cocktail hour and um i encourage my attendees to wear whatever goth means to them like if they want to dress like edgar allen poe here for it if they want to dress like a 90s goth here for it whatever it means to you i'm personally going to be kind of like you know like edgar allen poe era goth it's i'm loving that so much yeah it's gonna be so what a fun theme I just I don't know it felt right and it's gonna be very low-key not too many people definitely a switch from my last year 30th sleepover gathering that was quite a large party and then the one before that was before the pandemic and that was the turn up I did have a different pandemic birthday where I didn't really do anything

yeah right and then yeah previous before the pandemic 2019 yeah yeah that was the that was the big one that where we were on a party bus what birthday was 28 i think so yeah 28 was a really good year for me yeah so kicked it off in like the best way that party was so fun i think about that all the time i look at videos of that all the time and i was like at my most depressed during that time too so it's like wild to look back and be like i was having so much fun that day that like never happened in that era of my life so i look back emilia had a whale tail oh if you don't know what that is it's when like your thong is purposely outside of your pants and bella hadid brought that back recently love that it's gonna be a thing again soon because

she she makes the rules i feel like she brought it back because she is like doing a partnership with victoria's secret is she i don't really like that me either victoria's secret sucks yeah uh anyways how are you what's going on in Amelia's world um what is going on in Amelia's world oh god I don't know y'all there's so much there's actually a lot going on right now my days have been like really like chill and low-key oh my god sorry grandpa's making biscuits and his paws are getting really really big they hurt I've never seen such large paws in my life they're huge they're the size of my palm that is the cutest thing I've ever seen I also I'm loving this moment for me with like a cat in my lap and then like a cocktail in a fancy glass Liz made

the most wild cocktail it's average I don't even want to say it's average it's like weird but I will drink it because I made it and I'm not going to make another one uh it is a martini and i only have like spicy olives i also have blue cheese olives i'm just not feeling blue cheese right now no so i used some spicy olive juice and then i used some banana pepper juice only a tiny bit but it's very strong it's good you only used a tiny bit yeah because i really if i use that for the whole thing it would be it would only taste like that yeah so it's it's fine it's good i would say it's a pretty color i would just prefer maybe more of a traditional martini and i don't have those olives right now so i'm drinking sake we're having like a weird drink day

yeah i'm also just like somebody for sure going to white lotus which is a good it's a good feeling i feel good but i do feel strange because usually i roll in here looking like i just rolled out of bed which a lot of times i had just rolled out of bed just so you know the first time i ever heard the word wook I heard you say it yeah you were like I look like a wook yeah and I didn't register I was like I don't know what that means but I didn't ask because you know sometimes you're just like not thinking to ask about something I was like okay sure and then uh Mr. Liz and his friends when we went on a ski trip they were like calling people wooks and I was like what is a wook and then they're like it's like a dirty hippie ski bum and then everywhere we went I would like

stop them and whisper is that a wook and then by the end of it I finally understood what a wook was and I described your outfit I was like I heard Amelia say wook and I described your outfit and they're like that's not a wook oh a wook is like in like the festival world like a like a typical like festival goer like glitter and like like minimal clothing and like moon boots there's different like versions of wooks oh my god i'm learning so much the more you know so just like a regular ass rave baby yeah okay yeah but like in like a kind of like an extreme obnoxious way like it's kind of used like derogatorily yeah that's what i gathered is that a word derogatorily it is now sick and i'm impressed you were able to say it so smoothly thank you because

that was a mouthful i misuse words frequently but you know what you're confident and that's what matters that's true and you don't challenge confidence language is always changing to fit our needs so am i saying them incorrectly or are you just close-minded think about it we love women in stem you need a drink for every occasion yeah not you specifically no people in general yeah and we have a few occasions right now we do we're hanging out we are occasions yeah we're the occasion and we have a podcast always and grandpa's really cute that's an occasion yeah any anything can be an occasion if you want it to be you holding that glass like how you are that's an occasion um i'm trying to remember to hold it by the stem because i don't want to get

it warm women in stem yeah women in stem that's also another anytime you say stem you have to say women in stem damn okay amazing i'm on board okay so i have like a whole list of topics today okay that i'm pretty excited to talk to you i'm i'm thrilled because i have no topics okay amazing i have one interesting tiktok i can show you but that's about you know how much i love that because you do love tiktok i do and i love when you send me tiktoks so i love sending you tiktoks not anything about it also you know what's kind of embarrassing is um the guy who's staying with me who i came up with a nickname for him and he hates it that means we have to use it but his nickname

i think should be duracell we've been having conversations about how i'm going to talk about our relationship on the podcast because he's like it's not fair of me to like suppress how you talk about it i'm like well it's your business too yeah so we'll talk about it and we've always had that approach yeah it's an open discussion hello anyhow um but when i came downstairs um he was like he's like i already know how you're gonna be sitting and then he sat like this and was holding a mug like this and that's how i've been sitting the entire time what a booger i know that's funny though and cute yeah he's like this is how you're gonna be well it's the most welcoming for cats so and that's how i conduct my life yeah i just want to be approached by cats yeah because who

doesn't and when you are chosen by a cat you know that you're elite because cats don't just choose anyone no they don't i've actually like watched a lot of videos about how cats choose the people that they sit with oh i would like to know the answer to that there's a there's a few different um schools of thought but um most of them are just like it actually doesn't track with your cats i specifically grandpa but like apparently cats are always gravitating toward humans that don't put them out of their comfort zone so like you'll notice their own business yeah that like the people that are like i'm a cat they're like but then people that don't want to touch the cat the cats always go to apparently that makes that's what makes sense hit me with these topics have

you heard i just read about this like an hour before i headed over here that means it's fresh content this is a hot topic a very very hot topic sorry i keep having to like so i'm wearing i need to do laundry so i'm wearing like all my old underwear that like the backup undies yes and they're so fucking uncomfortable it's just a constant wedgie i know exactly what you mean it sucks i'm out of laundry so i'm wearing no underwear yeah you i mean i'm wearing a body suit so that's like underwear yeah especially sometimes i'll wear a body suit when i don't have clean underwear for that exact reason it's it's a hack yeah women in stem women anytime one of us says something slightly smart i'm gonna say women in stem

i like that okay if you are a woman in stem it's an homage i'm sorry yeah it's more of a compliment than anything we think y'all are really smart we're aspiring to be you we support women in stem yeah any kind and just women not in stem just women and that we'll even call them women in stem well yeah if you're not in stem yes you are what's happening today define stem anyways yeah i mean you can call anything science technology engineering or math yeah you can really call any give me give me a give me a job uh princess princess that's fucking you you that's a science it is a science you also have to like engineer how you rule and also you probably have to do like a good amount of math like just in terms

of like how much money you have and you have to just like there there are the everything is very calculated yeah so so princesses are women in stem women in stem and i love that that was the first job i thought i know yeah i was like i wasn't expecting you to say that oh shit i was i don't know a princess what about what about um a stripper absolutely we know women and they're a woman in stem yeah i mean like the physics of going up and down a pole pretty incredible absolutely the the math that you have to do with all the ones that you get they make so much money that requires a lot of women in stem women in stem let's get it trending guys hashtag women in stem strippers are in stem the s in stem is and the t that's actually

Rippers. Okay. Okay. Topics. I'm ready. Okay. So there is I don't even know how to like jump into this topic because it's just wild. But there is a man named Mike Itkus who is running for

a congressional seat in Manhattan who is running as an independent and this dude. So we hate this man? No. Well maybe. I actually want to get your thoughts on this. Perhaps. He Is running, a lot of his platform is run on, um, like, sex positivity.

Mm-hmm. So, he recorded. That's bold. He's 52. He's, like, this, like, old, bald 52 cybersecurity, 52-year-old cybersecurity man. White man? White man. Might get kissed.

A white man! Yeah. No! Okay. Okay. So, here's all the facts that we have right now. Mm-hmm. Middle-aged.

Yep. Bald white guy. Mm-hmm. advocating for sex works in tech yeah okay he took it upon himself to record a sex tape with an adult film star and released it for his platform i'm gonna read you some i'm gonna read you some tips here somebody the reason i saw this was not tips not what comments no just like fucking fast facts what do you call those bullet points okay i'm falling apart already but somebody tweeted this and was like his pr team is working hard right now because what if it just

got leaked and he was like it's part of my platform just kind of genius yeah i watched it you watched the sex tape i mean i'm not surprised me and duracell we're not that's not gonna stick me and the guy that's staying with me watched it while we were eating gnocchi tonight just call me your guest my guest the guest yeah the guest I actually like the stranger the guest the stranger I like the guest and you have to say like that every time the guest the guest no but me and the guest were watching it during dinner tonight and it was his suggestion he was like you should if you're gonna talk about it you should watch it and I was like bet so I like propped up my phone on the table we're just like eating gnocchi just like watching this old man's sex tape 52 is not old

he looks old and it was really i was expecting it to be more like produced than it was it was really truly just a sex tape but it's called i actually respect that more yeah same it's um called uh bucket list bonanza is the name of the sex tape but it's on pornhub if you're curious um i'm like i don't know where am i so he said he it was a huge learning experience for him which is interesting he had a good point which was that he was like I can talk about being sex positive as much as I want but like unless I like do something to show that I'm like supporting like sex workers and like you know like creating like making prostitution legal and blah blah blah like all of that he's like I can say all of that but it doesn't show as much

is when I actually like participate in it which I think is an interesting approach because I'm trying to apply that same logic to other uh like types of platforms that someone would be running on yeah so I think it makes sense but I think the world is not ready for it so that's exactly what the guest said the guest is not american and and that's why we trust him yeah right exactly yeah that's a big piece of it and he was like when i said this to him his first initial reaction was like the world's gonna like laugh at y'all for this they're already laughing yeah that's what i said i was like i'd rather have them laugh about this yeah like listen there are so many worse things that could be happening other than someone having consensual sex on camera

like yeah totally we have had so many people in office who have done far far worse yeah like mike wiener sending like a picture of his actual wiener mike wiener it was wiener his last name's wiener i don't know if his first name's mike i don't know you know who really gives a shit yeah good point anthony wiener anthony wiener is his name um all i know is the last name's wiener yeah but like sending a picture to like a an intern of his dick like there are so many things that happen and like for him to kind of take it upon himself to make a point i think is kind of dope he's not gonna win because he's running as an independent and like they never get enough votes but good for him for like making waves like that i'm gonna say my one hot take please about donald

trump i wish he ran as an independent because then it would bring more attention to the independent party and ideally break the cycle of the two-party system george washington warned us against it and here we are yeah and everyone's sucking the forefathers dicks and won't listen to that they were like 20 the founding fathers isn't that weird to think about that makes me want to drink in one gulp starting a fucking country the 30 year old men that i know if they started a country it would be a disaster i don't even want to have kids like yeah and the fact that people were like let's start a country no that's way too much work absolutely it absolutely is but i mean like what would your like if okay this is kind of jumping from topic to topic but if you

were to run for president on one platform and one platform only like what is your like main platform that you're running on like for my kid because it's um sex work that is such a good question um i think my platform would have to be um women in stem no uh actually i think my platform damn there are so many things you know yeah let me reframe the question like what platform would you run on that that is like very unserious um a non-serious plot do you have an idea what would yours be mine would be animal rights animal i mean that's serious but there are other things that like are way more like you know immediately important i mean arguably i think so that one's like still important so you want like a something that's still important but less important than

like the obvious yeah i just don't want i don't want it to be like uh you pick one thing and then it's like this whole thing of like wow you know like homelessness i would want to focus on like the pink tax hell yeah that's a good answer yeah yeah because some shit just should simply not be that expensive just because you're a woman and women are already paid less historically so what's the game plan here other than to keep women poor so they depend on men for being alive that was a women in stem thought thank you yeah that was big brain thanks no but that's that's a good answer i'll accept that i'm trying to find a specific exact quote that might get said about this oh my god yeah that's like watching if my dad made a sex tape

a bald white man in his middle ages here's the porn star that he made the tape with too hot for him yeah she's beautiful nicole sage um why that's also another issue i have like why would you pick a sex worker who's clearly like very young damn that's a good point i mean i think that she was probably like on board for the cause i'm sure that they had some sort of like connection like family friends oh no okay so this isn't what i was gonna but this is important to to read ikas's campaign page states his background as not married no kids not celibate atheist and says he dedicated he is dedicated to making sexual rights explicit by ending adultery laws and decriminalizing and legalizing

sex work i think that's those are dope platforms to to run on but like well because i think a lot people don't realize like if sex work is legalized it protects sex workers it demands that there are laws in place to protect sex workers yeah so that's what is positive about legalizing sex work what are the negatives um i'm sure you know there are some but i don't know what they are i think the pros far far outweigh any cons that would exist this is from prostitution.procon.org Opponents believe that legalizing prostitution would lead to increase in sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS, global human trafficking, and violent crime, including rape and homicide. But if legalizing it would put protections in place, then like...

Yeah, there would be protections in place for those specific things. I would think that it would be harsher on sex trafficking because there are laws in place. Right. and there would be more like over it's not gonna be perfect right away obviously but over time there would be more laws and rules in place as we figure it out to protect sex workers yeah right and you know potentially like unions and things like that to to give sex workers the advocacy that they didn't receive before right so yeah yeah i mean those are just those cons are just like they feel like just kind of like scare tact tactic like cop out excuses so maybe we can

transition into a new topic and i'll read that real quick fuck yes okay so someone dm'd us i'm assuming from a burner oh god and i super appreciate that they even messaged us in the first place but they said hi just started listening to your podcast love it so far though i am genuinely confused where someone got it cost ten thousand dollars to keep a placenta or fifty thousand to buy it i think well the person who commented it would have cost them ten thousand maybe like they were uninsured but who knows they i also don't know where they were located um and then 50 000 to buy it i think it's like hospitals buy or like other companies buying it shit is expensive anyways it costs 100 to 400 to encapsulate it at most and insurance covers it

the reason you can't just take an organ home with you is because it's a biohazard which that feels really obvious we should have thought of that we did read that that was one of oh that's a biohazard yeah uh it can spread infection and diseases it's why we wear ppe paperwork has to be signed because it protects everyone from contracting hiv hepatitis b and so on anything that is sold has to be tested and verified which is a cost and some of it is used for beauty services but so is everything else scary um everyone is welcome to take it home encapsulated so it's safe to consume um even just in a biohazard as long as it's discussed before possible issues i work in the medical field so having people spread

misinformation is frustrating there are a lot of evils for women especially with giving birth personally i haven't seen this be one maybe certain private hospitals or different countries but it's not the norm so i appreciate that they let us know like some insider details because maybe it might not be misinformation entirely but i definitely agree like that those costs could totally be feasible in like a private hospital or something like that right so maybe different country there's so many different factors but yeah i mean that was also when we first watched that video we were like we went and we looked at comments and like looked it up yeah people commenting like unbelievable yeah and we were seeing some like conflicting like some places

let you keep it other places don't so i really think it makes sense that it costs something to like encapsulate it and make sure like yeah everyone is protected from any biohazard risks right so just wanted you guys to have the information that we have as well correction corner we love information it's i've never loved anything more than information and that's why we love women in stem women and yes speaking of listeners yes we're gonna share a couple of listener reviews because if you guys rate and review and subscribe that helps us a lot like a lot and we might shout you out yeah which i i don't i like shout out corner i like being shouted out yeah i love attention and you guys probably also love attention i implode without it

someone named blueberry george on apple they said um listening to the holy hour is like having your friends in your back pocket i love listening to liz and amelia because i feel like i know them they're funny and smart and i really look forward to their episodes i even listened to them to pump myself up for a first date because i was so nervous love you guys we love you blueberry george this kind of feels like we're just like tooting our own horn but like actually these reviews means like so much to us so I always look to see if there's a nice new one when I'm having a bad day my favorite is someone who one of us pissed off online oh my god I have to read that they're like they like gave us one star and they're like I'd never listen to this podcast

like you how are you rating this then if you would never listen to it hands down one of my favorite things I've ever read I think it was I got into an argument about why people should get vaccinated under uh stephen crowder's one of his dumb ass tweets anyways i think it's from that because i think they say something about getting vaccinated they do here it is the title of this review is liberal propaganda one star um fuck you it's socialist propaganda yeah bernie bros for life trash podcast i would never listen to somebody who supports getting vaccinated and boosted because that just shows the lack of intelligence that these people have with like a shrugging emoji also their stories are boring and made up wouldn't believe a word they saying never listen to this

ever it's horrible trash horrible wow i just threw up from listening to this so bad frowny face zero out of 13 i love their rating skill that they're using 13 stars absolutely zero out of 13 yeah absolutely wow um i love that they added extra stars i love that um they thought all the stories were made up but then also they were like throwing up also would love to know what episode they listened to because our more recent ones we're not really telling stories we're like talking about no yeah our our thoughts um we're also sharing y'all's thoughts so and so what if we're liberal propaganda wait what's the name of the reviewer primetime 1996 thank you primetime uh anyways leave reviews but only if they're nice because unfortunately we do have feelings i have

a lot of them i cry kind of frequently it's just we need to yeah we're strong but also we're we have feelings yeah it takes a strong person to show emotions and that's why you should be nice to us amen crying advocacy club be nice to us but actually if you do like this podcast please like rate review subscribe it actually does make it makes a huge difference and now you can rate on spotify that feels like that's really old news now but i keep forgetting that it's a thing yeah you can't leave uh reviews but you can like give us stars and we like stars we love that okay moving along chugging on along do you want me to show you a tiktok yeah okay i was trying to describe this to mr liz when i was drunk and i was getting so mad that he was not understanding what i was

saying oh god i mean he was asking all these follow-up questions and i was like listen i am inedible and four drinks deep i need you to stop asking questions i need you to just know exactly what i'm talking about so this is from feminist icon barrett pal paul oh you did send me this yeah uh b-a-r-r-e-t-t-p-a-l-l love him love his content um his whole premise too if you don't know he is a gay man who um like used to be a womanizer before he came out and he has spent his time advocating for women and like making it right and exposing the way that like talk toxic masculinity operates and um he'll like stitch a video or something and like break it down but this is from him very interesting I've decided I'm looking for a husband now hear me out hear me

out I'm looking for a straight man that would like to get married to another straight man I've been summoned y'all tagged me in this one a lot like a lot a lot so let's give the people what they want shall we as always please remember to save and share this as it helps it in this world i'm gonna let him take it away and then we'll talk about it so here we go man you can date any woman you want to you can have many girls you want to i don't care i'll never bitch about it i don't care i just want a joint two-income household honestly i'll remodel the house i'll make it have two master bedrooms i don't care and as far as i'm concerned you can have the master bedroom now i'll remodel the house and then take it when it's done because we'll have two

incomes we can afford it i said it once and i'll say it again majority see i said majority of cishet men do not actually like women you are there to be their maids their mothers and their you know what pieces because here's the thing everything that he goes on to describe is what you can have with a woman partner it'd be nice to be cleaned up around the house that'd be cool but you know what? Don't care. We can get a maid. We can afford it. We'll pay a little extra and have her clean topless. Wouldn't that be nice? That'd be nice. Guess what? No bitching. Don't care. You won't care. I won't care. It'd be nice. It would be nice as if he wants you to do that. But because it's with another man, it's acceptable because you bring an income to hire a maid and have her do

it topless. There it was. Because you're just there to be a maid, a mother, and a you know what piece i'm gonna play just a little bit more and then we'll wrap this whole thing up nice to have some nice things and not have to deal with all the shit that goes along with a normal marriage normal i'm okay with that i just want the tax benefits i want the two income household and none of the problems that come along with marrying someone of opposite sex you can like i said date whoever you want to has many in minis you want to you bring them over guess what ow high five good for you she's a pretty girl guess what ow i mean this is not the most evolved version of myself right now but i told you so like this is the thing i know he doesn't speak for all men right

but enough have proven the point over and over out of my love for you i need you to repeat it with me and that is that they think of most of you like a maid a mother and a you know what piece they don't actually like women they like female anatomy they like the validation that they get from showing you off to their boys pow high five right there think of it like this a lot of grown men look at marriage as a roommate that they get to have you know what with that is also their maid their mother they're not looking for an equal partner they're looking for someone that is submissive to them in the ways that serves their needs and wants you know what i mean serious question and i want the answers please how much do you really have in common with the people you are trying to

date or are married to can't just be that you both want kids anymore it doesn't align with where we are today my favorite part is where he's like it can't just be about you both want kids yeah that doesn't align with where we are today um on top i mean everything he says he does not miss a beat because i he does have a point like when i was watching this like the first clip he played i was just like rolling my eyes and then he paused it and he was like you could have all of these things with a woman yeah i was like shit you could you have a dual income because there's no way this woman is not working and like you could even have an open marriage and still like have that kind of experience yeah right so I mean like I don't like I don't even know where to begin with this shit

because it's like it's like you said he covered off on fucking everything but like seeing I'm gonna make I'm gonna talk about something else to make my point that I want to make you heard did you hear about the serial killer oh I sent it to you like there was like a rumor that there a serial killer in Seattle targeting women in their 30s and my first reaction to it was like okay because I'm kind of always acting like there's a serial killer around same we kind of always have to to keep ourselves safe but I say that to say I watched this video and I was just kind of like not shocked that there was somebody making this video about like marrying a dude because like then they don't have to like put up with the bitchin I saw it and I was just like yeah

that's how like i'm so used to that narrative that it like i don't even register how fucked up it is anymore because we're fed it so much i'm like oh yeah we it's like the saturdays are for the boys mentality we're like yeah you can hang out with your friends it doesn't fucking matter but the fact that they like make it such a thing like no women allowed it's like if y'all could just marry each other you would and like that's you know not every guy not all men but like it it's this idea of like the old ball and chain and like women are around i hate my wife yeah so it's like i watched this and it's like i love that there are men like barrett paul that like speak out about this stuff because like it's so i have so much internalized misogyny

about this shit where i'm just like yeah that's like how dudes think about women i mean i have to admit that when i first started watching it because it caught my attention but when i first started watching it when he said these are all things you can have with women like specifically after the like we could get a maid we have two incomes i was like yeah oh fuck you could you could yeah just hi you have two incomes so you could hire a maid if you wanted to yeah isn't that wild whereas like there is just this underlying expectation that it's up to you to manage the household and i think that that's why i actually don't think i know for a fact that that's why um people aren't getting married at this age as much as they were before because

women are so independent i'm part of this i got added to this facebook group where um it's like are you dating this guy and people can like check to make sure that they're not like scary dudes it's actually a very respectful group i was expecting it to be like i was expecting it to be petty and like mean but like the mods are very very good about making sure there's no bullying it's like just for safety but anyway somebody posted in there and they were like I don't know if this is the right place for this but like I don't like how do I meet guys that like make money because like I make a lot of money and I've worked like really hard to get here and like all these dudes that I'm trying to date here don't have jobs and like all of the comments I was

expecting girls to be like don't be so picky and that's so awful and shallow all of the comments were like yeah no that's not that's not shallow at all like it's so hard to find men at your level now because I think like a lot I don't think again I know I keep saying I think like I don't know these things before like women were just they weren't making the money and it was like a like a masculinity thing it was like like you were saying it's like emasculating to not make more than your wife and now women are making more money than they ever have still not as much but more many more money than they ever have yeah and it's allowing them to be more independent and that's also why divorce rates are up because like it's not so scary to get a divorce anymore because

you're able to make an income for yourself that's huge so anyway it's like this is just this like outdated thought of like we'll hire a maid and like you and i could get married we'll have dual incomes it's like well that's not like specific and unique to two like cishet men getting married like what a weird fucking way to think about it regardless like i don't know in a romantic relationship it your end goal shouldn't be like i want to be in love with you and like want to like desire having sex with you forever yeah that would be great yeah wouldn't it i don't think that is necessarily conducive to like the way humans operate yeah you know yeah the the less exciting feeling is gonna like dim down but it's gonna like simmer into something that is longer lasting

and your end goal should always be like companionship like sincere companionship not someone to take care of you not someone to have sex with like true trust because at the end of the day that's all anyone wants especially i've noticed i you know i can't speak on behalf of men or their experience but i think like i can speak on behalf of people all we want is to be seen and loved the way that we are yeah that's what it comes down to you want to be seen and accepted and loved exactly for who you are and through your mistakes yeah and like you have to provide that for another person to receive it you can't just be like i need someone to fix my childhood trauma for me you have to work on it too and that's inevitable that's going to be in

any relationship you are in so it's all about giving both yourself and the person that you're with space to be themselves and maybe it's easier to do that in a platonic friendship than it is in a romantic partnership because there are a lot of societal expectations projections projected onto a romantic partnership versus just a platonic friendship damn based it's so true it's it feels like like whenever I've been I don't even know how to work like I don't I don't really have very we've talked about friend breakups I haven't gone through that many of them but like ending romantic relationships is so much more traumatizing than ending friendships like maybe not for everybody but like there there's so much more emotion at play in a romantic

relationship that like it makes sense that it would be like it would feel better to like work through all that shit like in a platonic relationship like you're saying then like actually having to do the hard work to like become like a good healthy partner but like i think maybe also we're giving this man too much credit for these thoughts that he had in this video because like i think he just like it felt like a very like head empty thought process oh absolutely which is he thought he was saying something like fucking amazing like like chuck and larry didn't do it first yeah right yeah like yeah that was a problematic movie and we all saw um yeah it was it was a very like head empty thought there there was zero self-awareness

zero he is not a feminist icon no nor is he a woman in stem no he's neither of those things he's exactly what you think he is and looks like unfortunately yeah actually it's just we're i know you're not playing the stereotypes no but he is he looks like if i were to draw a cartoon based on that man's voice it would look exactly like him just like middle-aged chubby white dude ponytail bad facial hair pattern yeah like there's just an obvious reason he's single and it's not by choice obviously if he's like announcing on a social media platform he wants a straight husband what if he's married can you imagine oh my god i feel so bad for his wife but also wouldn't you feel like fucking vindicated if you were his wife being like look look at these

comments uh-huh you rube you donut you doorknob yeah all those things i think i like doorknob no doorknob i was about to say doorknob absolute doorknob of a human what is the reason behind that insult because i say that yeah like what is what like why did that become a thing do people say dumb as a doorknob am i making that up dumb as a doorknob poor doorknobs what did they do they open doors and maybe he's not dumb as a doorknob what what would he be uh as dumb as i think donut i think i feel like donuts a good one yeah donut is donuts are delicious they're also completely empty in the middle so that's i think that that's why he's a donut yeah he is soulless no i'm just i'm just kidding i'm sure he has a deeply wounded inner inner child

absolutely honestly like anytime you get into some kind of like disagreement just what I I don't know what I inherently do because um my therapist is training me probably I I like to think I'm like her little social experiment um but anytime I like get frustrated with someone I just think about what their childhood trauma probably was to lead them to react this way and then it melts away a lot of my anger but sometimes not enough for me to clap back yeah but still it helps it helps humanize people and it helps you level yourself and so just being like this person is aggressively being an idiot on purpose yeah whereas like sometimes it's just like you don't know what you don't know so maybe this person doesn't know something that you know

yeah just like don't like make like you being a shitty person other people's problem that's all that we ask i have another sex joke for you okay i meant to tell you last week and i was so i got home and i realized i hadn't told you and i was so sad and then you were like it's a good thing we have a podcast because i could tell it next week that's exactly right but time moves really slowly when you're excited to tell someone a joke that's fair that's fair hit me okay liz i'm ready to lol what is the difference between a lima bean and a chickpea a lima bean and a chickpea i know the punchline's gonna be good and i'm mad at myself that i can't just see it i'm gonna tell you yes hit me i've never had a lima bean on my face but you've had a chickpea on your face

do you get it nice i get it i've never had a lima bean on my face can lime this bean on your face i don't know what that means but it could mean whatever you want it does feel like it it means something it does it feels yeah it feels sexual in nature yeah absolutely because have you ever you've heard the click called a bean yeah what oh yeah flick the bean yeah exactly when i was posting our video on tiktok by the way i know you probably listen to our intro but follow us there because please do um i work really hard on the videos yeah watch us in real time how are you i put on a full face of makeup and a fit for the video i'm dressed like a fucking hbo character today

yeah she is giving um what's it called white lotus she's giving white lotus look white lotus look you're not giving look look lotus your hair is getting it's just dirty i had no choice no it's giving like um what do you call it slutty puppy yeah i think this is slutty panda she's white lotus slutty panda slutty panda goes to hawaii she's got her freckles out ready to play and like a fun little bodysuit with like an ab cut out and it's just a crop the oh oh i fully thought it was bodysuit yeah it's it's highlighting the abs love to see it thank you so much um and then like these fun uh hibiscus floral pant they're they're loose they're fun they're flirty she's got it going on if you could guess what brand what company made these pants what would

your first guess be uh i mean to be honest my first guess was gonna be something fast fashion because that's just what i associate loose pants with it might be i actually don't know if it is billabong i had not seen the billabong label in so long where have they been since 2014 i don't know does paxton still exist because it was like only in paxton i did work there in 2014 i loved paxton i stole a lot of stuff from there did you allegedly i don't know why i just felt like i needed to just i allegedly brought home a lot of brandy melville whatever that shit is like so problematic you did the world a favor I don't regret stealing because fuck capitalism fuck you capitalism allegedly stealing anyways right this is all just hearsay I did not steal when I went

to Abercrombie I became a cop actually and that's why they offered me the cop job because I was so good at being a cop because I had been a thief allegedly that just reminded me I had a dream that I got made a manager of a retail store on my first day oh no it was a scary dream yeah that was my life first day you're in charge it was a sex shop i became maybe you had a dream about an alternative life maybe different timeline wow what if that's what dreams are i've i've thought maybe it was at times and that's why sometimes i don't like going to bed high because my dreams are just so wild and vivid that i'm like it's an alternative life it's an alternative type life that yeah i'm sorry for fucking with your life other liz sometimes i'll think of something

completely like horrible and absurd and i'm like oh my god i thought it and now it exists somewhere because everything's possible at every point think it into existence that is a saying but no that's not true don't think that way well i hope all the other versions of me are doing okay they're you know i'm sure some of them aren't some of them won't be anyways but they'll figure it out because they always do they do okay i thought it would be fun for us to close out this episode with a few more would you rathers from men's health okay because this list is phenomenal okay i love this i love this for us i feel like i should apologize for my level of tipsy this is like no this is so great season

one tipsy liz i'm so sad that i'm not drinking now that you're tipsy well we're gonna have an episode where we just like maybe we should do like a um drunk history yeah both of us just had the worst idea we've ever had we're gonna do it we should drunk history yeah we need to have a supervisor on set well that's why we have gatsby and grandpa what do you think as long as you're not driving i'm in what are we paying them for yeah no let's do it okay dope okay i'm all on board okay this is so much more fun now that you're a little tipsy this this next game we're playing you're so much more interesting when you're drunk no i fucking love this it's like when we played um mad libs when you were high it was just like i felt like i was a dumbass during

it was more for me than for you and i feel like maybe this is how this is also going to be okay would you rather be terrible in bed or a terrible kisser um i fully would rather be i think oh you know shit because you can be terrible in bed as someone with a vagina you could just be a bottom you know yeah you can just not be priceless every time second time i've said that this episode i also think yeah if you're terrible in bed just be a bottom just let someone else take charge so i think i would rather be terrible in bed than a terrible kisser because if you think about it being a terrible like kissing is the the entryway to everything else that you're going to be doing so if you're a bad kisser that could just like turn someone off

immediately it just could set the vibes off it's a good point so i think and as someone who is historically a very good kisser at least in my experience i have never not been told that which sounds very conceited but it's true i wouldn't say it if it wasn't true right um the only person who has not said that is mr liz and he also doesn't like tongue huh i know you know i also don't like tongue really that is my favorite thing so i think we're in at a little bit of a disagreement uh maybe you and me and maybe me and mr liz what is considered good kissing because i i love some tongue some tongue action i like to like brush the upper lip with my tongue and most people freak out when i do that in a good way

and he hates it okay and i was like what am i supposed to do this goes against everything i stand for i do like that i like i like when people are creative with it but like when like every i would say 95 of the guys that i've made out with just kind of like like shove their tongue in there and then just kind of start like like going in circles and i'm just like i don't i can't what am i supposed to do one time i straight up laughed in a guy's face because he you know he had only he i think he had only like maybe he's kissed a few people and if you're like drunk in college no one's gonna say anything um and maybe it was fine in those instances and then he was in a serious relationship for an extended amount of time but when we made out for the first time

his mouth was all the way open and i'm just gonna i'm just gonna do it for you yeah he was just like oh no oh no oh no oh no like his mouth was so wide open and big and then i just kept like pulling away and then he was like what's wrong and i was like um nothing and he's like no like why are you like laughing and uncomfortable and i was like well i just why is your mouth open so wide like my mouth isn't that big that's what i said because i was just like you know we're in our 20s it's fine maybe like he was just like weird in high school and not everyone is like in a relationship in high school where you get to like kind of experiment like that that's fine yeah but by that point we were juniors and he should have been

better at this especially like you would think someone who is in a relationship for an extended amount of time is better at kissing yeah you think and he was not and that's why i was so surprised and then he was like well will you show me what you want and I appreciate that that is hot boy behavior feminist icon no he sucks and he's really weird now oh um feminist icon moment moment feminine honestly feminist icon moment so then I was like I just like put his chin up and then we did mostly like lip tongue stuff and I was like see it's so much easier yeah yeah he improved immediately i love that and then we severed ties uh didn't talk for like maybe a year and then we both were drunk at a party and he was like i'm sorry i was an asshole and i was like

huh you want to make out yeah and he was great i'm glad he took the notes oh yeah yeah he kept improving on your lesson and we love that yeah keep working on yourself you know what maybe now he's a good guy i haven't checked don't we don't conversate but i hope he's doing well me too you know i hope everyone's doing well and has continued to be a better kisser i'm sure you you did god's work i guess i wonder like now i'm like how much of this is subjective okay so that's what i was gonna say that i was gonna answer this so i was gonna my answer to this was when i hear people say that someone's bad in bed i'm just kind of like okay but like it was probably just a bad experience for you when i hear someone's a bad kisser i'm like oh no that

sucks yeah i'd rather get their bad kisser what else are they bad yeah exactly and like why would somebody lie about someone being a bad kisser somebody would lie about someone being bad at sex if they did not perform well themselves that's fair you know so i feel like i would rather be bad in bed would you rather never be able to have sex again or every single time you drink water there's a little drop of pee in it i mean probably the first one because that's probably like already likely the drop of pee one yeah so you would rather you would oh that's true so you would rather have the second one wait you would rather you would rather have the p1 because it's already happening yeah yeah what was the other one again never have sex again yeah that's

not happening okay fair okay that was an easy one i agree i'm gonna do one more do it would you rather never watch porn again or have your mom read your porn search history um i would rather never watch porn again really yeah just because i know i could do that and also i just my mom and i aren't on that level even just once if she just had to read it one time just one time that's not the stipulation but now i'm curious it's my porn search history yes um i mean nothing i search is especially like shocking or like taboo in terms of porn um she's just such a buttoned up lady yeah i can't imagine it now mike it kisses in my search history so i'm fucked i would have to pick the first one i'm just kidding i would i feel like my mom already

know my porn search history yeah i was gonna say your parents probably already know to be honest my parents probably already know my porn search history because they were my parents yeah they don't know it was my porn search history they assume it was my brother's fair because sexism all right shall we wrap up let's wrap it up cool well send us your emails rate review subscribe is that answer these questions is that only on youtube you can subscribe yeah um and subscribe and rate yeah and all of those things email us preferably smash that subscribe button smash that subscribe button we love you our children it was so so flat might have been my favorite yet i did my best