The Hoely Hour - E121 Where Is The Love?

Episode Date: January 27, 2023

Studies show only hot people listen to The Hoely Hour. Amelia quizzes Liz on her knowledge of "phelias," possibly including the erotic interest of Sims 4. Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction is affecting men at younger and younger ages; could you be one of them? *Cue Twilight Zone theme song* Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

couple girlfriends and they all a little crazy yeah coming down the street like a parade macy's that's what it is yeah so good couple girlfriends and they all a little crazy and then i picture just me and the girls like walking down the street like a parade yeah macy's welcome to the holy hour a podcast about sex relationships mental health and everything in between i'm amelia sanson and i'm liz ball follow us on instagram and tiktok at the holy hour i'm on instagram and tiktok at amelia sanson and i'm on instagram and tiktok at liz ball so hard you can also watch us on youtube or listen ad free on patreon at patreon.com slash the holy hour check out our merch at theholyhour.com and email us your spicy stories at holy hour podcast at

gmail.com it was so embarrassing i interviewed on um that like sports show on um amazon prime and was drinking out of my seattle mariners cup during the interview because i was pandering and then i couldn't answer any questions about baseball because i know nothing about baseball like i just go for the drinks and the general vibe i'm not ever paying attention i admitted to it i was like i don't fucking know i'm there for the vibes yeah you know some people are there for the game and the sport but i am there for the butts yeah for the butts and the beer the butts the beer and the boys butts the beer the bathroom boys um maybe uh i'm trying to think of something else that starts with the b bathroom lines are shorter at baseball games because it's mostly men

uh i was thinking the the baseball field food oh but the dogs hot dog the brats the brats the brats are disgusting they're fucking gross i was trying i was trying to stick with the theme yeah the b words yeah we're just a couple of b words it's also the only place you can still get dip and dots oh fun fact i've actually never really liked dip and dots really i think i just like the novelty of it yeah that's why i was like i was like these aren't even good yeah well i mean that's slander freeze-dried little uh they why would i do this when i could just eat ice cream the novelty i do want to know like what the business they were on undercover boss dip and dots and like the number one complaint was that they were

like way overpriced and they were like wow you're paying for like a luxury item that's like what what where what do you mean anyway they went out of business that's why they're like only in stadiums now stadiums and then like some kind of like weird stand like weird uh vending machine at the airport yeah yeah next to like the cell phone vending machine those are so fucking weird i have a story for you that has been it's from my childhood and it has been haunting me oh my god okay um because you know when you just get these intrusive childhood thoughts oh yeah okay so when i was like i don't know 11 um or 12 do you remember the black eyed pea song where is the love yes i was watching the music video for the where is love song and then i was like very moved and

i called my parents and i was like we need to i need to show you something and we gathered around our old family computer oh my god and i i sat them down and i showed them the where's the love music video and then it ended and i looked at them like expectantly and then they were like wow cool and then i was like we need to do something like how are you not moved by this are you not feeling anything we need to get up and start a movement like people feeling like they ain't got no mama yeah people killing people dying children hurt and you see them crying you should practice what you preach don't you turn the other cheek i just and the fucking bop i regularly think about them just looking at me like our

daughter's fucking weird you know and that's just i think that's just proof that i have been sensitive my entire life if my daughter showed me that music video versus like you know any other music video from that time I'd be proud I would have a sense of pride because that was like the video hoe era yeah which I would like back I think it might be coming back I feel like like Megan Thee Stallion and Cardi B doing WAP like might have been a very strong foray back into the video hoe era because like there's always been women feeling like empowered in music videos but that was the first one that really pissed off the right and so I feel like we're re-entering they're just they're reaching for things to be mad about at this point like we were very much

trapped inside when that song came out yeah so those of us who have any sort of like social life and um bigger problems to deal with other than like finding something to be offended about uh we had a good time we enjoyed that song and then tech girl carlson it was no it's ben shapiro and Shapiro um and then all the drama about the M&M's I was like they're fucking M&M's what drama about the M&M's uh like M&M they had like a the green M&M looking like she was on a date with a brown M&M and then there's a new purple M&M and then they were like this M&M is obese it's a peanut eminem and it was not like tucker carlson said something about it and he seemed like slightly self-aware where he was like he's like because apparently that's what we report

on well good i mean like at least he seemed a little bit aware that it seemed like some clown shit even a broken clock is right you know they ran with it they they ran with being offended about the eminem and her little green her little white boots her little white go-go boots um so they changed her boots again uh and then uh i don't know they came out with some kind of apology statement today eminem right now is the number one trending thing on twitter wait they eminem apologized for their their purple eminem for having woke eminems i don't know like that has fucking eminem that has got to be the dumbest thing like if this is something you're upset about you really don't have any problems like i think that we can agree on that they're they're

m&ms honestly i am a socialist they're dusty ass pieces of chocolate with a candy coating on the outside okay first of all i only chill i know i'm sorry you're talking about milk chocolate they're they're iconic but milk chocolate is mostly like powder now it's not even like real the percentage of it isn't real chocolate you're right but i'm still mad um i consider myself very far left but like this is why the left loses so much because getting rid of the the the candies like um the spokes candies they're getting rid of the little guys and then their new m&m spokesperson is uh maya rudolph let me read this a black woman america let's talk they're gonna have something to say about that in the last year we've made some changes to our beloved spokes candies we weren't

sure if anyone would even notice and we definitely didn't think it would break the internet but now we get it even a candy's shoes can be polarizing you know the copywriter writing this was just like you for rolling their eyes yeah um which was the last thing m&ms wanted since we're all about bringing people together therefore we have decided to take an indefinite pause from the spokes candies in their place we are proud to introduce a spokesperson america can all agree on the beloved maya rudolph we are confident miss rudolph will champion the power of fun to create a world where everyone feels they belong i bet that they're going to use her as a way to like make fun of this whole thing and they're not getting rid of the spokes candies fun little fun little way

to kick off our conversation now i'm mad now i'm just gonna be steaming mad the whole time m&m stands for mad and matter yeah that's fact um by the way i posted like an hour ago on instagram um studies have shown that only hot people listen to the holy hour it's true super interesting yeah um that's that's backed by like i'm pretty sure the cdc actually did that study um the disease is being hot that's why the cdc got involved yeah it is a disease and if you're hot you understand why but um i just wanted to let you know that that study got published and you guys are all really really hot you know what else is a disease men jealousy oh and men i guess jealousy yeah jealousy is a disease it is a disease get well soon get well soon haters no one is jealous of me

i bet you anything there are a lot of people that are jealous of you i'm not jealous of me well that would be weird if you were i'm gonna take my first sip okay tell me how it is out of this booby mug well while she's sipping I'm going to tell you what Liz is drinking here today she's drinking turmeric and ginger tea out of a mug that um Hansel Mondays created who is one of our friends it's a boob mug it's the most beautiful thing that I own it is very beautiful I love I love tits she puts so much quality into her work check her out support support your local artists we're in a boob friendly household this is going to get taken off of TikTok for sure if i make it we'll have to blur it um anyway we're gonna blur the tit mug and the tit coasters

boobies we'll have an intermission and i'll just sing what's wrong with the world mama people acting like they ain't got no mamas i swear the whole world's addicted to the drama only attracted to things that'll bring us trauma overseas yeah we're trying to stop terrorism but we still got terrorists here living in the usa the big cia the bloods and the crips and the kkk okay why did this stick in here so i had this idea for a new game you and the game i know it's not as fun as the last game it's not really a game it's more like a how good are you at guessing things oh okay um you know it depends on the thing that i'm the topic of the thing i'm guessing incredible well we're about to find out today how good you are at guessing different paraphilias

which are words for different fetishes oh i'm going to give you the name of the paraphilia so there's like a lot of etymology involved here yeah well you'd be surprised you know i don't even know if i just used the word etymology correctly i think you did study of bugs no no what's the study of bugs etymology is definitely the study of words but but the study of bugs is similar entomology and then etymology so it is very close so there's an etymology yeah entomology okay I know things I know words sort of yeah I'm impressed prefixes and suffixes and the middle part whatever that's called okay I'm gonna give you yeah I mean that's that's all that this is really but yeah it's actually difficult I'm gonna give you the name of the paraphilia

and you're going to tell me what you think it is a fetish of okay I love this okay um agalmatophilia agalmatophilia can you spell it a g a l m a t o p h i l i a huh well um everything i learned in elementary middle and high school has left my brain so i'm just going to be guessing in the dark here okay um what is it again edema a gal matophilia a gal matophilia um just when you have like a lady fetish like a gal fetish you know uh but actually i'm gonna guess um it's probably unconventional yes is it a body part fetish or is it like an act fetish neither but i would say it's more so the

former than the latter okay um i'm gonna guess it's like a fetish where like when you push your boobs together that's just the first thing i could think of i have no reasoning or logic what if that was correct that would be incredible yeah i would definitely be cheating i would just quit the podcast and let you host the whole thing from now on i would never do that you're stuck with me it is the um erotic interest of statues mannequins and immobility i thought that this was specifically interesting because i stumbled upon a porn category called um mannequin porn kind of it's like it's like time freeze porn where like people like have like a remote and the person can like pause and play this and they can like this isn't what it's fascinating this isn't what adam sandler

wanted when he yeah when he starred in what's it called click click pause pause i don't know i i haven't seen the movies oh my god it's super sad i remember that i heard that i don't remember why it's sad but i do remember it being sad which is the story of my life um why was i crying yesterday so you pause them and assault them essentially basically that's but they wake up like into it that's like they're like wow how did you know while i was a mannequin that's what i wanted well they were like it's like my tutor came over to help me and i and i had this time freeze remote and so i got to do whatever i wanted with her and then he like unfreezes her and she's like oh god this is why this is why we can't have nice things this is why i keep any porn i am

watching very simple that's smart sorry on the occasion that i'm watching it face right now amelia's face went into just like immediate i mean there's some like pretty fucked up shit on here um i believe that people are disgusting uh broke bitches so crusty disgust me keep a couple wet ones case a bum try to touch me ew nikki minaj yeah how did i know i regularly have this nikki minaj line stuck in my head from that song um did it on him by nikki minaj uh from pink friday album iconic um and it's you if you could turn back time share you used to be hair now you're gone nair i love that i like her rap cadence she's incredible she has a very specific rap cadence

yeah she it's like word yeah that is a pun it's it's like lil wayne's rap cadence is the same he always says like a phrase and then it's like i don't i can't word that ties the whole thing together okay i'm gonna give you one that we've talked about in the past that's your that is your clue okay but it has a name a proctophilia e-p-r-o-c-t-o-philia i have to it's something that we've talked about a fetish that we've talked about long time ago i feel like it is some kind of butthole thing okay you're yes um and a fetish for eating ass no i'm impressed that butthole was where your your brain went i feel because what is uh what's it called when you get your butthole checked

when you're a man when you have a penis oh yeah sometimes when we're recording this podcast i'm like we're fucking dumb butthole doctor a proctologist yeah you see we don't even need google i'm trying to think of what the specific word is when they're investigating your asshole anyways oh yeah um we don't need to know right yes we do proctologist exam is it the fetish of putting things in your asshole no okay well it just as a rectal examination that's not helpful whatever um it's an erotic interest of flatulence that's when you started talking about the farting on cakes cake farts hashtag cake farts i can't believe we haven't ever talked about these that i i am i have been

scrolling for a while and i'm only on h geez um pick pick one from the bottom okay towards bottom give me a letter um let's do s i was already scrolled to s well done sexophilia no so many of these are like sexophilia the erotic interest in sex um okay simphorophilia s-y-m-p-h-o-r-o sim for ophelia um the erotic interest in playing sims 4 is what i'm gonna guess yeah no sims for ophelia isn't that what it was close enough no it's witnessing or staging disasters such as car accidents

that is an erotic interest and then you like jerk off on the car accident i guess like oh my god the way that that car crumbled oh my god a tornado is coming you guys oh i'm gonna come oh man wow there's you know there's a neurotic interest for everything that's what liz says if you can think of it it probably exists yeah unfortunately i'm gonna do one more give me another letter okay uh let me think of letters um let's go with l because my name starts with an l well technically it starts with an e there's only two under l wow oh okay this is something that sounds like um it could be something else but liquid ophelia oh so it sounds like it could be about liquid but it's not well i'm not saying that um i'm gonna say

an erotic interest in bodily fluids no that's a good guess it's the erotic interest in immersing genitals and liquids that's harmless dipping a wiener in potentially milk or something because the one above it is lactophilia interest in breast but it would be weird if you have an erotic interest in so an erotic interest in like putting your genitals and liquid yeah man you could just be like minding your own business and someone could just like put their dick in your drink this is maybe that's why oh dude's profiles are always like i like my women like i like my coffee without another man's dick in it and i feel like at that point maybe you're just admitting to that you have liquid ophelia maybe potentially and this is something you should look into

and we're not shaming talk to your doctor we have questions yeah you know don't be like dipping your your junk in other people's beverages without consent i don't want i don't want your dick in my turmeric ginger tea i want my coffee the the way that um some people want their women which is without someone sticking it same i like my coffee like i like my men quiet silent just in complete silence i think this ties into a little bit what i wanted to talk about um last night as i was just scrolling around on the internet um i learned about something called pied and it's porn induced erectile dysfunction and i was reading about it on reddit um because you know people talk about things and sometimes sometimes you can get better information on

reddit than like just a google search so yeah um anyways it's basically like a porn addiction essentially like you're so addicted to porn that um like that is the only way that you can get off and um it causes erectile dysfunction when you do actually try to like have an intimate relationship like when you try to have sex with with someone else with like a real person wow you can't perform because you're you're like so you've basically trained your body to like consume porn to be the only way that you can climax um and it was just really interesting reading what people had to say it was like a lot of stuff from i was reading a lot of things on ask men um the masturbation subreddit and um like i think just sex subreddit um where you know people are asking for advice

of all sorts of like uh are like how come men younger and younger are starting to use things like viagra and cialis is it cialis cialis cialis cialis yeah there's a lot of commercials a lot of s words yeah sounds involved um and it reminded me of a tiktok i think i had even sent it to you but it was like a younger person like a younger girl um and by younger i mean someone just younger than us like early 20s uh and she was saying how like she doesn't want to date anyone who watches porn and when i saw that i was like questionable that's like kind of strange because I would say a majority of people can probably consume porn normally where it's just like a sometimes thing like yeah you're not constantly like you're not just like looking

forward to going home and like watching porn and masturbating non-stop you know yeah and at some point like it's also gonna be harder for you to masturbate because this is what you're doing all the time um anyways she was saying that like because like she was talking about she she dates men so she's talking about men specifically and like from a very young age like boys are able to look up like naked women's bodies doing whatever they want so just like from like a prepubescent and like all through puberty like boys and men are consuming this is their first exposure to a naked woman is in porn doing anything they want so it teaches them at a young age to like sex is is purely for them and um like that women are objects essentially yeah it is a very it's it's

like a very clear pipeline to objectifying women yeah um and it can be dangerous and like I thought that was just such an interesting like observation that I hadn't ever considered and it might be because like we did grow up with the internet and like we could look up porn but it wasn't the same as it is now where like you have access to the internet on your phone yeah you can watch videos on your phone you can you have a lot more like it's just so much more accessible than it was when we were growing up totally there's porn everywhere twitter is like a big place for porn now um like uh tumblr tumblr yeah yep so it's it's like you know we used to have to like go on like dot net websites to like watch porn and now it's everywhere it was very

interesting seeing all of these men telling each other it was you could tell it was like you know probably men in their like mid and young 30s telling these other men who are in their 20s like you don't need viagra you don't need cialis it is because of porn and they were explicitly saying it's pied this is porn induced erectile dysfunction like just stop watching porn and stop like masturbating to porn and maybe even just like give yourself a break from masturbating and like just reading these firsthand stories was like very eye-opening and i've even seen like um i i saw a comment like on porn i think where someone was like i don't know who's or maybe someone told me about this so like i don't know who's reading this but like don't like consume

a bunch of porn or something um because it will lead to you not being able to have like real connections with women like take it from me there are some interesting conversations happening in the comments of porn in case you guys are curious and i know that because that is what i'm more interested in than the actual porn itself yeah i don't and like i you know you telling me that story earlier about freeze porn is just another thing reason why i don't need to know a disposition i don't need to like that's cool that it does it for some people but like how did you get to that point right totally i and like that seems very non-consensual oh absolutely it's like they become aware and then they're like wow thank you it's like a cnc thing i think like they i don't know

that should not be something that is easy to look up well so that's the thing porn hub has now like taken it upon themselves to block certain searches that they think are harmful so you can't search like rape um or like non-consent you can't never been able to yeah totally but that's like a kink like you know that the cnc kink is a thing and people were searching rape and so like that non-consensual you can't search you can search cnc um but there's like you know and it's so i think the thing that is scary to me about a cnc kink is like it is very different to have that kink between men and women you know um because like men are typically aggressors of rape so if they're fetishizing rape whereas like you know someone who has been assaulted is might

be like fetishizing it as a way to cope that's very very very different totally and i don't know yeah yeah there's it's interesting there's like um have you heard of evolved wrestling uh is that where they like wrestle naked or yeah they like try to get each other naked and then they try to like get each other to like tap out yeah but they'll like force sex on each other in like a way that's like they're both consenting to this but it like looks like rape consensual it looks non-consensual and it's interesting to see like people trying to get around this and like convince themselves that it's not rape you know because it's like you know it's not in these instances but yeah it's just been interesting to watch the internet try to get around find new ways

to label it hey you want to do some naked wrestling um okay so i'm going to read real quick just a few things um so this is just like a google search of porn induced erectile dysfunction pornography habit is linked to arrest erectile dysfunction research says survey says more than 50 with erectile dysfunction problems during partnered sex don't have a problem when watching porn according to the survey 45 of young men with a porn addiction have erectile dysfunction these are very wow these are like some pretty serious numbers and that was from 2022 um and it's from everydayhealth.com and uh like it was like i said it was very interesting to see how many men were telling other men to stop watching porn um and a lot of them i saw were recommending

this website called your print your brain on porn.com and they have um like the evolution it says start here evolution has not prepared your brain for today's porn and um they just show an example like a study done on rats which you know is not right you're like okay it's a study on rats yeah but that's where they all start it's just like about like um they would change like the rat's female partner every like few minutes um and it it like turned into an addiction because of the novelty of something new like your brain just does this it it like the novelty of having a new sexual partner is engaging and that is the um the thing that porn provides is because if you're just like i don't want to look at this like you have some you have endless options of

what you can be watching you can just search anything and consume it however you want so wow um that's interesting that's the it's called the coolidge effect the automatic the automatic response to novel mates um interestingly men ejaculate more motile sperm and they do it more quickly when they view a novel porn star this powerful automatic response to erotic novelty is what started you down the road to getting hooked on internet porn like that lab rat you have a primitive mechanism in your brain urging you to fertilize the two-dimensional females males or whatever on your screen um the coolidge effect also occurs in women herbal females is what they say uh studies show that when given the opportunity hunter-gatherer females no less

promiscuous than males are no less promiscuous than males um i think that uh also like this is a very interesting overlap between like like alpha males and then just like like the ideation you know of like your brain's not ready for this and like it's not manly to be doing this it's just it's a very interesting overlap between like uh sexual dysfunction and like this kind of like old school alpha male idea yeah um yeah and it's like related to just like instant dopamine but the website's really interesting it shows you like the entire uh like all kinds of studies everything is has citations like whoever made this was very very dedicated to sharing this information with people um and I think it's worth exploring because after I was like reading more

about this and reading what people were saying to each other about like um porn addictions and thinking more complexly about pornography and how it's consumed um I like have decided that I'm not going to watch porn anymore wow I'm including it in my 75 soft okay yeah because I just want to experiment I know the way that I consume porn is probably very different than the way like men or like younger boys are consuming porn because it's not so much like of an objectification situation yeah and that is also like societal societally it's not going to be the same right for me yeah or for any femme person right so interesting that was yeah i wonder a new take on porn from us because i do support sex workers yeah but i want it to be safe totally

absolutely i mean i love porn like so it's like it's one of these things where i also hear listening to you talk about like you know the um like dopamine that's released with like new like sexual partners or new like porn that you're consuming makes so much sense when like i've gone through so many phases of being so so into something so specific like audio porn like for a while i was like oh my god this is fucking amazing because i get to like ascribe my own like visuals to like i get to have like a whole and now i listen to it and i'm like i need a break from this because it's like not so like novel and exciting anymore so it's just like it's interesting to know that that's like because people will always make jokes about like the