The Hoely Hour - E171 P*ssy Goblet

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

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the people yeah and we do everything that we do is for you guys they said it was a little treat everything you do is for our children that's what happens when you become a parent i'm a big fan of treat culture welcome to the holy hour a podcast about sex relationships mental health and everything in between i'm amelia sanson and i'm liz ball follow us on instagram and tiktok at the holy hour i'm on instagram and tiktok at amelia sanson and i'm on instagram and tiktok at liz ball so hard you can also watch us on youtube or listen ad free on patreon at patreon.com slash the holy hour check out our merch at the holy hour.com and email us your spicy stories at holy hour podcast at gmail.com

did you grow up with um those like jelly candles no they were like um like kind of like jello consistency but like thicker i think i've seen those i was obsessed with them you could have they had like little like toys in them like little like plastic spiders or i thought they were the coolest shit ever and then you would burn them and then they would did you know that like parafan wax like the wax doesn't just disappear it clings to like the walls and stuff oh i saw a um a video of like these people cleaning out someone's house like professional cleaners and you're like what the fuck is on the walls and they're like this is actually candle wax so if they're like burning a lot of candles um the wax like evaporates and it is on the walls that makes so much sense yeah

there's a hoarder house i was being cleaned out have you ever seen those crime scene cleaners that shit's wild the shit that they have to do i've cleaned a hoarder's house i've probably talked about this yeah it was a family friend and i got roped into it oh you just it was my mom was like we're doing this because it's going to be helpful and that is so gross she was very upset that we clean yeah in your house well yeah you can't just like take all of a hoarders no there's so much emotional connection to so much of their stuff i didn't know that i was like 12 right of course i was like oh my god it stinks in here yeah it smells like when we dissected pigs there's this woman on hoarders that um she would like save all of her piss and

shit in bottles and she had all her dead moms dead moms piss and shit too in these bottles and she just like horrified yeah it was awful the people on hoarders who like see this shit all the time you know they were like literally they were like what the fuck like this is on this is next level they had to like knock down the house because it was just like toxic yeah yeah it was like a health hazard nauseating the people around the house it was bad yeah and she was so like you know they're always so like whatever about it because it's it's in your mind oh yeah She was sleeping on a tiny corner of her bed and everything was surrounded by newspapers. And then most of her groceries never, like, made it into the fridge.

There was. And then, like, a few years later, it was back to the same way. Of course. Yeah, because it's like, if you don't get to the root of the problem, it's not just the stuff. Oh, yeah. There was an episode of Hoarders where this guy felt like he was honoring his mom by, his dead mom, by, like, keeping everything that she ever had. like and she was a hoarder and he was like if i throw these away i'm like i'm like degrading her honor basically like she wanted these things so then he started hoarding his own stuff so then

he had all of her stuff and all of his stuff sometimes i watch hoarders because i have so much shit i always feel so bad for hoarders with like the kids of hoarders oh yeah um i'm wearing a shoulder brace mr liz said that i look like a spy kid when i left absolutely do because i have this well i didn't want to buy the pink one but it was the only one that they had that was like my size of course and mr liz was like well now we won't get it confused with mine um which he was fucking with me and i was like oh do you have one and then he was like no but what if i get one it's pink so you know it's for a girl's arm yeah i was gonna say that's why it's the only size that fits you yeah like well we're gonna make the super small one feminine yeah yeah because women are so

tiny can why can't you just make it black please yeah and then the rest of my outfit is all black um and then i have pigtails so you're wearing black yoga pants i just bought yoga pants like kick flare pants i haven't bought those since like sixth grade i'm so excited they're very comfortable yeah they look comfortable what brand are they i i bought them on amazon and uh i bought them because i like the v that's what that's what i was asking that's what i bought it's very sexy got mine from fabletics because i keep forgetting that i'm paying for a subscription oh my god so i just have all of these member credits i know i need to go through all my subscriptions there's several i don't need that reminds me this episode is sponsored no i'm just

kidding but this episode is not sponsored but you should um get rocket money okay that's what i i was like i know there's one that i always hear about on podcast yeah it's it's truly the best like i got roped in because the only time it's not an ad yeah right i know this is probably the first time you've heard about this and we're not being paid to say it but casual conference it has actually been amazing like i went through and just they just canceled all my subscriptions that i didn't want you just like type in your login yeah and they just do it for you except for like gym memberships because like gyms never want you to leave oh yeah charge you a leaving fee yeah right like i haven't i got an la fitness membership like six months ago law fitness and just haven't been

to law fitness just haven't been the fitness honestly if there was that's the fitness kind of feels like like a cool new york gym fitness welcome to the fitness i like that let's start a gym how about fitness dick in your mouth and that's that's a wrap i think that's all we need thanks for listening um what do we have oh do we want to start with the email yes so we got a listener email that um is exactly what i wanted to talk about today so i think that it's a good lead-in okay my movement is so limited i'm limited let's face it i'm limited wicked oh wicked i'm also not very excited liz texted me and said that this whole ariana grande and ethan slater stuff is like taken away from the hype of wicked for her i agree it made me less excited to

watch it because at first i was like oh my god this is gonna be so fucking cool to see this musical made into a movie because it's just like such a big musical you know right people who don't like musicals like wicked yeah totally and then just knowing that like everything that happened with ariana grande and ethan slater and i don't know yeah it just made me not excited to see it and then it also made me sad for the rest of the cast because that really put a stain on this movie no completely agree it's i feel like they were maybe hoping for like how um don't worry darling you know that whole like olivia fox no wild i went to high school with a girl named olivia box that's why I always get them confused um Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles their whole like

thing made a lot of people want to see the movie and that ended up like people didn't like the movie but there was so much other tea yeah because the Shia LaBeouf was supposed to play Harry Styles role and Florence Pugh was like I don't want to be in this movie with this problematic guy yeah and then Olivia Wilde's like blaming it on on Florence Miss Flo and then uh what else did she do oh and then she like is telling people publicly like we don't we didn't want to cast him because of his problematic past yeah I'm like no you what we have receipts sister begging him yeah she she has she got exposed all over that whole all of it but you know it did make a lot of people interested in seeing the movie yeah but i don't think that wicked's gonna have that

same effect yeah i mean people already are don't really want to go see a musical you know yeah it's a lot it's a lot i don't believe that wedgie maybe that's why i'm in such a that's the worst the wedgie flick that made me feel instantly better okay all right the subject line is mailbag question travis kelsey andy reed and red flags are you familiar with what happened on the sidelines um is andy reed the coach yes okay i just saw a picture okay hey amelia and liz i listened to episode 170 yesterday and it got me thinking about how i sometimes have a hard time telling the difference between behavior i should accept in relationships and behavior that's actually a problem, especially when it's complicated by anxiety and fear. I have a lot of examples that

I'm working through in therapy, but I'm curious what you think about Travis Kelsey's behavior with Andy Reid at the Super Bowl. I didn't actually watch most of the game because sports ball has never been interesting to me, so I didn't see him lose his temper until after the fact, but I'm seeing a lot of people saying that's just how it is in sports and other people saying it's completely unacceptable. Even Andy Reid and the quarterback are excusing it. Personally, I felt afraid watching the recap of it and it seems gross when i read that him pushing andy reed has apparently become just quote-unquote bumping into him but what do you think is it too sensitive to be concerned with how travis might lose his temper with other people

in his life or do you think being wary of him is valid is this one of the times when he can write off aggression sorry is this one of the times when we can write off aggression as him quote-unquote just being passionate about the game and it's actually something the rest of the team should aspire to. How do you think our perceptions are affected because only men are involved? And is there a difference between what is acceptable for people of his status versus everyone else? Can't wait for the next episode. So if you're not familiar with what happened between Travis Kelsey and Andy Reid, Andy Reid took Travis Kelsey out of the game for a few plays. And he didn't think that that was a good decision to be taken out. And the cameras caught

him yelling at Andy Reid like in his face and he ran up to him and like shoulder bumped him and Andy Reid wasn't expecting it so he kind of stumbled a little bit but he just stood there and just like got yelled at and then Travis like one of the other players grabbed him and he walked away and the conversation that's happening online is like how big of a red flag that is and how yeah maybe it is normal in sports but like should it be because that's like a big red flag and personally I think that I'm like the number one fan of Taylor Swift getting a lot more people to watch football that hadn't previously but at the same time it's bringing in an audience of people that just aren't used to how it is they're just like not used to seeing like how players are

during a game so of course that looks scary because people like aren't like familiar with seeing that kind of thing i think that it's being scrutinized heavier because it's him and so many eyes are on him and so many people are feeling protective of taylor swift but at the same time and i want to caveat that too feeling triggered seeing something like that is so valid like everybody has different experiences with like being yelled at or like being in like situations with men that have and women that have like explosive tempers like that so feeling a type wasting that is you know valid and like this is how and andy reed was the first person to say this too it's like that dude is like my son like this is how we talk to each other

during the games like that's why he didn't really react when he was being yelled at because it's like yeah okay like be mad throw it throw a tantrum it's the super bowl like stakes are so high and he cares about his job you know and it's like yeah it was like a little cringy and like all right calm down bud but like that's the sport so I'm gonna start off by saying the people who are criticizing this specific the men specifically who are criticizing Travis Kelsey doing that um i want to see that same energy brought to the rest of the violence that is yeah part of football and football culture yes like men breaking their tvs men punching walls um what about the super bowl ad last year for some streaming service remember where the super

ad um it was like the game had come back and then they like pressed a button and it went to their home screen so like the men were like reacting to their wives or whatever violently because they thought that they missed something when it had returned i'm like so like if we're going to so heavily scrutinize travis kelsey for like to be honest i'm just gonna give my opinion it doesn't i don't think it's that big of a deal no it's truly not like looking at it watching it i'm like okay yeah he like bumps him but like this is not the most violent thing that we're seeing amongst this sport so i'm just gonna say like if you're gonna bring the criticism and energy go for it but do it fairly like yeah there are so many worse things than than this guy doing that

and um i i don't think that it was really like violent to be honest but no it was like it was a high stakes game yeah and i'm not i'm not excusing it i'm like no i mean there are plenty of times i want to lose my shit at work too totally and i think maybe i am excusing it because it is like i you can understand it without it bothering you exactly yeah totally yeah absolutely it doesn't bother me specifically um but i can understand why it might bother people especially because they're like i said there are so many eyes on this that weren't before so it's like oh shit like what the fuck was that like should taylor be worried and like you know who knows maybe in a few years he's gonna have like very significant cte and maybe

she should be worried then you know but there's no way to know that like this is a very violent sport a lot of people have significant brain damage from this and i think that there are instances where there is actually very scary behavior that is shown by people that play this sport that felt like a a passionate moment and the reason that Andy Reid stumbled was because he wasn't expecting it you know yeah I think that what you're saying well and he still grabbed his hand like to kind of like make sure he doesn't stabilize him right right and like everyone's like oh no this is see this is what happens with abusers everyone's making excuses for them and it's like okay like sure yeah can you stretch before you reach right you know it's just like

I like I do see where that's coming from and like the two of us are the last people to make any excuse for a man you know yeah but it's like like please just go watch every single football game then and like let us know your thoughts right right through every single football game you've ever seen totally but i think with this question too it's like i think that this is another example hockey oh totally hockey glorifies violence you want people i know they're too different like and the reason that this is being like criticized so heavily is just because he's dating taylor swift oh exactly and there are so many there are like people are so protective of her too like there's such a parasocial thing with her where it's like oh my god she should

be worried it's like i think she's a big girl she can make decisions for herself there was um did you see the footage of him like making the speech at the end of the game no i i heard about it oh my god like she he sang viva las vegas like screamed it into the microphone and she was in the audience just like with the most like icked out face it's so funny but it's like the face that you give someone when you're like so in love with them and it's like that's my man you know it's like she was like smiling but kind of like oh you know it was so good like he chose that yeah i love him but he chose it that was a decision come on who amongst us hasn't been icked out by our partner at least once absolutely and it was kind of refreshing seeing taylor swift

date someone who like he has so much media training but not like the taylor swift level of media training like yeah and to just like she's been doing this since she was a child right so but she was still so hyped for him she wasn't like oh my god you know she was like smiling and it's just kind of like she is an adult we don't know what we only know as much as we see yeah well and i was gonna say um before i forgot uh we don't know like what practices look like with all with any football team yeah you know we don't know the dynamic and like even the coach saying like this guy's like my son yeah totally yeah it I don't know but it is with this with this email specifically I think the there is a line like absolutely this isn't to say like oh yeah well if someone like

explodes at someone like just forget about it like there are just so many like like what's extraneous factors here that are like influencing how we're talking about this but like that's not the case for everybody that loses their temper like I got yelled at once by a man and I that was game over for me you know like it's you have to like kind of consider the source and where it's being directed and for what reason like like if you're going I don't know if you're going to criticize the culture of football players and coaches amongst each other then you need to hold everybody accountable yeah but also like that's not an industry that a normal person works in no right and that's so true i don't know like i would say the violence glorified amongst fans

is more than anything that you're going to see on the field yes yeah so like can we address that first did you see all those videos of like 49ers fans like smashing their tvs uh no but that doesn't surprised me frank is loving watching i went to a raiders game and that show is their fan base is fucking scary a lot of a lot of teams fan bases are terrifying it's like there is there are so many videos of dudes like just like smashing their tvs and then like starting to like threaten their friends that were chiefs fans like i'm gonna kick your fucking ass dude like fucking hey get up get the fuck out of my house and it's like these are just colors yeah you know and like our can we bring the same level of energy to other people who are unnecessarily violent at their jobs like

police officers yeah who also bring that violence home um there's a survey that it's like what 70 percent of cops are uh perpetrators of domestic violence which is insane i saw someone call it working cops work from home anyways i could go on another a cab rant but i just like don't really think that this is that big of a deal as people are making it out to be um and you know if you're upset i'm not gonna stop you yeah you you can be prerogative yeah be upset about whatever you want and like that's also valid but but also it's worth noting like this this passionate response from the both of us is not toward the person that wrote the email oh no this is definitely not the overall vibe of this whole thing is just like so wild to like like i'm hearing more about this than really

anything else that went on at the game which is really yeah i haven't really been paying attention oh my god it's just like i don't know um like you said though like there is a line and the email that was sent to us i i interpreted it as more of like a general thing like where is the line totally um and i would say like mr liz is not a violent person by any means i've never seen him become like physically enraged yeah but he does get confrontational and he said in the past that like not with me like he'll get confrontational in public um if there's something that is like uh shitty i don't know like one time someone tried to cut us in line and he was like are you serious damn and since he's like a big dude the guy was like oh sorry yeah yeah and then he's like

come on man damn but um and then there was another time where uh there was construction by my old apartment and um they tried to tell us we couldn't park somewhere when they didn't have like a no parking sign or anything and then um they're like oh well we need to put our truck there and then he's like do you guys have like a permit or something because like fuck yeah we live here right like no that's you can find another spot and they're like yeah but it's okay and then the next day they finally got them but he's like he should they should have had this anyways good for him so like little things like that if it's like seems unfair one time he did fuck with a tsa age i was like that's the wrong place yeah i was like they're gonna he brought a full thing of

shampoo or something and i was like why would you do that it's like i brought it before and they've never stopped me and i was like oh you're still an idiot and they were like do you want they asked him do you want us to like take this and then he was like um no you can just put it back in the bag and then they were like but it like it's a full thing of liquid and he was like oh so will you just put it back in the bag and then he just kind of kept saying that and then he's like they were like do i need to get my manager and he's like no and then once i made it through he's like okay i'm done fucking with them oh my god you cannot fuck with the tsa agent because they could ruin your entire trip and life you could get like put if you get the wrong person

they could put you on a no-fly list oh yeah and i don't know there are some douchebag tsa agents oh yeah so um but he had told me that like his ex hated when he did stuff like that and he's like does that bother you and i was like no yeah it's kind of cool because then you know that it's like if somebody fucks with you in public like you're covered oh yeah you know like that's a very like safe feeling because i well because it does kind of take like gumption to stand up for something that you think is unfair yeah the tsa agent thing i was like you're an idiot like if he got in trouble i'd be like bye yeah i'll see you on the other side yeah good luck i'll bail you out i don't even know if i'd do that yeah i'll support you while you bail yourself out

yeah um anyways kombucha makes me the the booch burps i just trademarked that just now does it make you burp a lot because it makes me i don't know i don't really pay attention i'm sick no me neither um it probably does uh we could move on to our next your topic do we need do we need a i just liked the uh screenshots of ice spice people explaining things to ice spice that was so relatable so good so good she's like i'm just here for fun there were all of these comments on the um picture of travis kelsey yelling at andy reed and people were like i knew i knew there was something off about him it's like no you shut the fuck up shut up no you did this is what i hate about being online yeah in present day it's like i know that you want to have a hot take to feel

interesting right and and i love that for you but like this is not the one no right it's like use you could use that energy towards something like a little bit more productive talk about your your your thing yeah um the only topic that i'm prepared with today is a public complaint about um the copper iud hell yeah town hall so the only copper iud that is fda approved in america is paraguard and um it was made in the 80s the early 80s and there has been no new copper iud created or approved in the u.s and it was originally made for women who um had already given birth yeah so that's why it's enormous giant yeah uh and you just see like a lot of horror stories on Reddit of like people with the Paragard IUD. I mean, there are also obviously

positives, but this thing is like a big ass IUD. So I was looking up if there are any smaller ones and there are smaller IUDs in a bunch of other countries, including Canada. And I was getting so fucking annoyed. And I was like, do I just need to go over the border to get a smaller IUD? because there's something called the mona lisa mini five um why do they have cute names i know paraguard skyla it even has a scary name yeah skyla i did have the skyla but um so they the mona lisa uh is available in canada and since we're in washington i was like maybe i could just go across the border so i was like doing some research into how i could get um the mona Lisa mini and someone commented someone comment had a post that they got the Mona Lisa five

inserted in the U.S. and didn't have to go to Canada for it and she was like anybody who has any questions can DM me so I DM'd her because I was like how did you do that and she's like I bought it from a pharmacy in Canada and had it delivered to me in the U.S. and then you need to find a private um practice gynecologist or whatever uh who will agree to insert it for you because it's not fda approved so you just have to sign something that's like yes i know that there are risks is not fda approved and i am letting this person put it into my body that and she was like i haven't had any complications and i love it that's amazing yeah wow i mean so just even knowing that that can be an option yeah um and you do have to

i don't know if you'd have to pay out of pocket like i'm sure it is dependent on everyone's insurance but you would just need to find um a an ob-gyn who would be willing to put it in for you yeah have you looked at the price of it without insurance the the actual id itself yeah um yeah Yeah. It was like a hundred bucks or something. Nothing. I know. I mean, for what it is, I, she sent it to me. Let me click the link really quick. Okay. Okay. She got it from Queensborough community pharmacy and it is 81 USD. Wow. Yep. And it's like 10 centimeters or something smaller than the Paragard. That's insane. Yeah. And, um, for those who don't know the copper iud is like the only non-hormonal uh birth control option um besides like condoms and

stuff um that you can or i guess it's only non-hormonal iud that you can use yeah um which is bananas yeah because a lot of people i just don't understand why there aren't more options available i mean we know yeah we know yeah yeah i mean the fact that it hasn't been improved since there hasn't been one approved since the 80s and it's the most barbaric looking piece of hardware ever oh yeah you see it next to um a hormonal iud and it's like enormous gigantic and the moreno was also made for women that have given birth yeah like so it's just it's just crazy to me it's just it's crazy there's like a variety of non-hormonal options like a diaphragm which that sounds you just you need to be good at using that for it to be effective yeah a diaphragm is

like a little hat that you put on your cervix and you put spermicide on it and then you insert it and then you have to leave it in there for a few hours after you have sex before you take it out okay this might be the dumbest thing that i've ever said but i didn't know so i was watching a dr mike video um and he was do you know who dr mike is no oh my god i'm obsessed with him he's this he's a youtube doctor he's like a family medicine guy and he's so hard and really he just like explains things really well anyway he was interviewing his nephew um like doing like sex questions with his college his nephew's in college and he was like what do you think spermicide does and his nephew was like oh i don't know i don't know and so he broke it down he was

like what do you call it when you murder someone and it's homicide so that's why it's aside spermicide homicide is the bait is this why was it what did you know that that spermicide kills sperm no that that's where the word comes from like aside like homicide i think so was because of death i i mean like this i i was listening to this and i'm like sometimes i hear things about the english language and i'm just so bewildered by it because what's it called when you study that i like we studied etymology yeah yeah in school like the prefix or whatever it's so interesting to me i'm like oh it kills sperm spermicide that was just um anyway if nobody else knew that now you know now you know i was i mean i was pretty high i get

so fucking lit on words i mean yeah it's cool you would like dr mike i would he is he has such great videos and like anyway i'm not gonna get on i'd love to learn but he had a really good i should get some questions from that like sex ed video and and we should talk about them because there were there were some really good questions on there um uh okay oh this did you have any other thoughts about your iud no that was about it just that i wanted uh i wanted the general public to know that there are some workarounds and options i love that that's good to know i would have never i've known that because i would like to get one yes yes definitely and oh and you can ask for a cervical guard um when you get your iud inserted um and if they try to say no they're gaslighting

you yeah and then if they're like it doesn't hurt for most women like you're not most women okay no you're you and yes it does yeah i've never heard anyone be like oh that was easy peasy no me either every single person i know who's gotten an iud who's like yeah and i almost passed out yeah like i'm traumatized i threw up in the parking lot like yeah just like the most painful thing so you can demand a cervical guard and it makes it so much easier i heard reviews from that they were like why isn't this just common practice yeah why not i think that people just like to normalize causing women pain yeah and inflicting pain on women i don't know it's fucked up i bet that the cervical guard is like an additional like three thousand dollars onto

the procedure too i feel like they always do that shit like they just hide all these ridiculous costs and like necessary things it should just be part of the procedure i don't know and then you can also get locally in a anesthetic we should get laughing gas for that shit yes what like i don't know it's just like bananas show me the fuck out i want to laugh about some shit yeah just just I'm getting mad you want to hear a fun fact that I learned that I you probably already know that I will make you more mad even more angry yeah you might already know this ready but I read this today and it enraged me that um August of 2023 was the first time that period products were tested using actual blood what yeah they hadn't been testing them with blood

until august of 2023 last year six months ago is it because is it because they just didn't want to pay people to use them in trials or something maybe i don't know if they were using like fucking like hawaiian punch or whatever they like i don't know what it is in those commercials did you know the ingredients aren't like checked for no uh feminine products yeah it's like really toxic shit that they put in tampons uh-huh yeah but like the person who um they can just say what it is and no one checks yeah which is atrocious yeah the person who posted the video that then like led me down this rabbit hole of researching was she was saying that um she's like i spent 20 years of my life wearing a diaper sized pad wondering why I just have like this ridiculously

heavy unusual period but like there are so many women that have that experience like oh my god my flow is so heavy like why do I go through so many pads a day and it's like wait hang on like shouldn't we look at that and be like maybe this is normal and the products that we have just aren't meeting our standards and it's because they were never testing with actual blood i mean that makes so much sense is that not the most annoying thing had like a terrible leak through your tampon um and that is why i can't say enough about using a diva cup yeah or whatever you want to call the diva cup is just like i think the most well-known brand yeah but using a cup a menstrual cup is so much better yeah but even those weren't being used with blood not no products were being

used we're being tested with blood like only in the u.s uh maybe because i know that cups are very popular in other countries other countries and they're made with like medical grade silicone i should find this article um and if you're sensitive to literally any product i don't know like i'm i'm quite sensitive to um pads and tampons if they're not like i mean i like to hope that the ones i'm buying that say they're organic actually are but i so rather prefer using a cup and you only have to uh empty it twice a day oh wow i mean sometimes it does leak and you'll need to empty it but um like you can wear it for up to 12 hours that's amazing because i grew up with i think i've talked about this before with such a fear of toxic shock syndrome i thought that

it was just something that like yeah because we all read that one horror story and like teen vogue or something right cosmo girl yeah i don't know i just highly recommend a cup and they come in all different sizes and shapes um if you do if this does inspire you to get a cup um i recommend the kind of cup where it doesn't have a stem at the bottom but it has a ball and you use you grip that to pull it out um I prefer that because the stem it can poke you oh and you can trim the stem but I I would rather just have like the rounded ball at the tip and you just pull it out yeah I've never used one never tried one I'm a big fan there they are a little difficult to master at first but it's just like so much easier I mean I do still like use tampons occasionally yeah if I'm just

like i don't have time to do the whole uh cup thing right now how do you clean it just soap you boil it oh yeah well so you're supposed to boil it when you before you use it as well because it softens the silicone um but you boil it i know there's like special soaps you can use for it um for me i this is maybe this is weird i clean it with apple cider vinegar and then i boil it wow and that's worked for me don't put it in the dishwasher i uh it ruins it and you can't use it ever again it'll just be like fucked up and you just have like vag all over your plates no i'm just kidding it's not how we're um pussy plates pussy plates so apparently they have been using saline solution to test these products which is nothing like blood no they don't even

have the same like viscosity right radica doc at the direction of the fda in the 1980s companies turn their focus to creating menstrual products with a range of absorbencies so somebody can pick the least absorbent product that they need to manage their period and hopefully that will reduce the risk of toxic shock i know that the eu has so many more laws in place around like these types of products and especially around like skincare and makeup products too yeah america is too fucking big it why we don't need to be this big no we're we're not efficient no when we're this big right you would think that we would have gotten over like the growing pains by now i i mean 1776 we've had a lot of time to figure it out if you look at how small other countries are

you know what what are we doing what are we doing guys yeah what are you doing america once again a controversial yet brave opinion that i have is that uh i think states should be countries that's a really great way to get into a civil war yeah it wouldn't be a civil war though it would just be a war so you might be onto something liz i mean do doesn't need to be a war you know yeah can we can we all just like hug don't you think if states were countries we could all just do our own thing war is war is so dumb it really is what are you doing what are you doing yep no one wants to be doing this what are what like what is this a is this a rational way to react to anything no no i mean i would have preferred you know like a very long time ago

states were like we're gonna be our own country yeah i think that would have been better like this is too much land this is too big you sound like texas this is what texas has been wanting for forever that's why they're the lone star state yeah they want to be their own country i think california does too i think we should have cascadia you know like us idaho oregon and i don't know about idaho yeah idaho's like kind of like why why do you want to was it idaho was it it wasn't arizona who was it it was oregon california washington i'm pretty sure it was idaho but maybe i'm wrong but i don't i don't but you know i'm saying i don't know if they should be no i agree and that's why i'm second guessing a little suspicious and maybe maybe canada can

adopt us i would love that can i have some daddy justin daddy trudeau so we could have some better health care i don't know anything about just some health care canadian politics apparently their health care system also kind of blows even though everyone has it there's no win no there's no winning i bet i think we can all agree that american health care is the fucking worst absolutely um okay i got some answers here the research uh that they then eventually did once they realized that saline was probably not like the best um that pisses me off i know august of last year that's crazy like maybe we should try dish soap yeah like you know that it's all men on these boards um the research also offers doctors a better approximation of how much

blood someone is losing during their menstrual cycle based on the types of products they use some of the period products examined in the study were more accurate at approximating their saturation point than others menstrual cups were extremely accurate it says period underwear absorbed much more saline solution than blood to no one's surprise yeah tampons typically absorbed more blood than the reported capacity on their boxes which is very interesting so anyway um that's uh absurd and disappointing and not surprising i can't say enough about menstrual cups guys like you save so much money yeah first of all right that makes sense because you just have the one cup yeah and you get really familiar with your cervix which i think is a good

thing shake hands with your cervix you kind of do have to it's like you're putting a little hat over your cervix almost getting it ready to head out the door yeah and it is like a bit of a learning curve with a menstrual cup but the money you save is really nice you know that you're not putting any bleached products in your body um and it's like not contributing to as much waste which i think is nice and i've also seen people water their plants with their menstrual blood but that is oh my god that's not something i would water their plants with their menstrual blood under what no fucking way you know her it's not even some like internet weirdo i don't know her well but she would um like post pictures of her hand covered in blood and like write some poem

about her period and um that is great if that's if that if if you love your period and that's how you feel about it and you i do believe in embracing the stages of your cycle totally um i don't need to post about it on instagram this is the thing like there was so much like there's such a narrative around like normalizing period blood for so long and it's like this isn't gross this is part of being a woman and it's like true and i don't want to see it don't you remember that phase of like crunchy white girls like bleeding down their legs yeah yeah there was there's like a picture of like some like nasty lady she she's just like bleeding and her baby like her kid is like near her leg and then i remember reading a comment i was like what is this kid gonna think

when he sees his mom like or her she's letting her period bleed on his head yeah right i don't know it's like ma is that you is that me we're doing too much yeah okay it's because i love my period i love everything that my body does for me but like you know there are there are a lot of things in my life that i love that i like i love when i shit i'm not gonna like post it online yeah you know what i mean like there are things that our body does naturally that should be embraced and not and normal and should be normalized but like this just gets to a point where it just kind of feels like a little performative yes that's exactly what it is it feels performative i am gonna tell a story um about someone who again doesn't think about me

at all she accused someone of giving her an std um because it was like burning when she peed and i think something she was like itchy um and she accused this guy she's like you gave me an std or an sti i guess that's what we call it now and then he was like i definitely didn't um and he got tested he was like no and then she went to go get tested and the doctor was like um you just need to wash your vagina oh you know it smells crazy though oh no it's like i don't know you shouldn't be that uncomfortable you know and you also don't need to use any special products just use some unscented mild soap preferably oh and like what what is it boric acid yeah i love that shit all day just so simple but okay so i just googled i can't stop thinking

about it now i hope she started washing her vagina i just looked up watering your flowers with menstrual blood uh-huh and this is a thing okay your period okay or um and just like store bought plant fertilizers your period blood contains rich minerals that can help your plants thrive i was gonna say it doesn't have nutrients yeah but still and i get like we are like nature you know we're like animals that you know enrich the soil i guess when we die but but like you know like harvesting it and then like using it i'm just gonna say it's just like a lot as um such an advocate for menstrual cups the process if you have as heavy of a flow as i do it's not a pretty process okay yeah you're you're gonna be like jesus christ i can't believe i'm leaving i'm

losing this much blood every month yeah no wonder i'm in a bad mood um no wonder i'm in a bad mood and I'm craving sushi um but it's it's it sounds like I don't know that sounds like way too much work I mean for me personally although I have to say I am curious I won't do it I'm not gonna try it yeah but I have to say I'm curious like what if you had a period plant I would like to see if that plant grows well I'm certain that somebody has done that research we should we should look that up yeah but it's like you know it just feels a little like i was friends with a girl that used to she would like feed her bird like chicken sometimes that's fucked up super fucked but she didn't think about it like that she was just like oh he really likes it i'm like this is

barbaric that's also how mad cow disease happened what do you mean uh cows are vegetarians and mad cows from farmers feeding cows dead cows that were sick that's the saddest shit i've ever heard i didn't know that that's how mad cow disease started more like sad cow disease what a bummer it's disgusting anyways humans are the worst but like the same feeling that i got when i was like you your poor bird has no idea what it's eating is the same feeling i'm getting when i'm giving my plants my period blood it's like what they have no idea i think the connection though is people are like i'm connected with my plants and with the earth sing them a song um i'm also looking up what's in tampons wow cotton bleach i don't know what any of these mean but did you

ever use those scented tampons or pads yes oh yeah those would make me so itchy and also they smell bad yeah they do but it was like you know when you're growing up it's like oh my god i probably smell crazy well because my mom would buy them like she's the one running the errands you know and then if you don't look at she didn't use tampons first of all um so when you're not looking at the box and you accidentally buy a scented one yeah so then i was like do not get these again she's like oh shit she never would have anyways right my mom is very much like but they're also prettier boxes when they're scented so it's like oh she'll like these ones um i don't know it says sport there is okay carbon disulfide um which was the most frequently detected

chemical and what is that do we know it's usually it it's a uh commonly found in the production of rayon um i don't know what that is but it's it is a reproductive toxicant don't know what that means um methylene chloride which is a carcinogen methyl ethyl ketone is an irritant fucking carcinogen yeah wow and that's found and we're like why do so many people have fertility problems it's not in all of them it's in playtech sport um scented and safe and soft which is a dollar store brand which is fucked yeah um you're you're giving carcinogenic tampons to low-income women yeah which is just you know like environmental racism like in a tampon yep wow and just like environmental because it's it's not just like a race like it's like low

income everybody low income is being exposed to these like awful things the government is just like putting these horrible toxicants and why is this shit fda approved and but a smaller copper iud is not yeah i we're too fucking big yeah we really are okay there are more most of these are in playtech sports scented and the dollar store brand by the way okay um ethyl acetate which is an irritant mp xylene which is a neurotoxin and a repro toxin heptane which is a skin irritant and a neurotoxin hexane another neurotoxin why are these things in them first of all i have no clue it seems like that's more expensive wow okay so the first one carbon disulfide that's in most of them um it says exposure to carbon disulfide among female workers in rayon manufacturing

plants has been associated with increased risk of menstrual disorders early menopause and hormonal disturbances and that's going direct that's being inserted directly into us yeah since you're like first period that's that's just it's just disgusting and not surprising wow anyway so in my opinion this is just an ad to get a menstrual cup yeah this episode is sponsored by diva cup it's not but if you would like to yeah you're listening it's a goblet for your pussy okay gobble me swallow me and it does do that sometimes fuck yeah um so consider it you know i'm not gonna make you do anything you don't want to do but i am considering the 12 hours is nice so not having not having to

worry about it yeah uh totally i don't know i so i have to get my i just called my gynecologist office um to see when i need to replace my iud and it's next april that i have to do it not this year 2025 but i was thinking i was like do i want to get another one after i don't know because i sort of honestly miss getting a period it is such like a welcome it is a good indicator of where your health is at yeah because i get the i get all of the everything anyway like i get all the anger and the zits and the boob pain i just don't bleed so i'm like am i pregnant this month is this the month that i'm pregnant i don't know because i don't bleed it's horrible i i i believe in the um science of the iud so i think that i do too i mean hormonal iuds are the most effective

they're super effective I don't know if it's still there my heart just got lost my string got absorbed my strings curled up right when I got it inserted so I can't even feel for it it I forgot that that happens yeah so anyway I know it's still there but there's that little piece of me that's like I'm crying over nothing so many days this month am I pregnant and that there's just no way to know what are the strings for to easily take it out and to also feel if it's there yeah it's like to just to for like a gut check but mine mine got um swallowed up like in the first two days so i went back like pretty soon after getting an insert and i was like is it still there i had to get when i had one i had to get the strings trimmed they usually

have to do that but sometimes they leave a tail so you can have like peace of mind yeah you can just forget that it's there my first iud that i had was a skyline i could feel it when i would cramp like i would feel the arms oh my god it was awful but now i have a marina and it's bigger and i don't feel it so who knows maybe it's not there maybe i'll have a little amelia you'd be in way more pain oh absolutely but like sometimes like my boobs look bigger like one day compared to another and i'm like it's they're growing for a baby and they might be but if this is my pregnancy announcement it's a shock to everybody yeah right yeah um anyway check what's in your tampons look into a diva cup or the government varieties government doesn't have cups saline

is not the same as blood no these are all the takeaways from today the diva cup i bought it was uh it was super cheap i got two for like 30 bucks um and you can pick which two you want because so i picked i didn't know what size i would be so i got the one that has the small and the large oh which one which one's better does it matter um i haven't used the large i've only used the small okay because i was like i'll probably need this one because i haven't given birth yeah um because the diva cup they have two versions there's one for like before you've given birth and one for after that makes sense yeah because your body changes and that's why there should be multiple options for the copper iud yeah it's bananas anyways what else we're at

an hour we are you're probably gonna have to cut out like 15 minutes of this though i don't know 15 minutes does it feel like a lot maybe five minutes maybe five minutes okay well when we can we can wrap all right well thanks for listening we love you you are children that was amazing i'm inspired i'm inspired i thought about adding an ad lib in there i wouldn't think of anything that's i would have panicked fly away uh frank said we when i was listening to last week's episode he was like you know that's not my favorite part oh the end of us singing yeah it's not like this either i mean we know we heard from the people yeah and we do

everything that we do is for you guys they said it was a little treat everything you do is for our children that's what happens when you become a parent i'm a big fan of treat culture yeah anyways okay bye bye that's our real ending we're always like