The Hoely Hour - E209 Bimbofication

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

Have you heard of “micro-cheating”? TL;DR: don’t think about hot people. The girls (of course) dissolve into a conversation about the state of the country, but this podcast is nothing if not the... diary of Two Very Scared Girls. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm, I feel like I'm still coming back to life, you know, like I feel like I'm not alive. Welcome to The Holy Hour, a podcast about sex, relationships, mental health, and everything in between. I'm Amelia Sampson. And I'm Liz Ball. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok at The Holy Hour. I'm on Instagram and TikTok at Amelia Sampson. And I'm on Instagram and TikTok at Liz Ball So Hard.
Starting point is 00:00:26 You can also watch us on YouTube or listen ad-free on Patreon at patreon.com slash theholyhour. Check out our merch at theholyhour.com and email us your spicy stories at holyhourpodcast at gmail.com. Me and Liz are recording the Monday after Thanksgiving week. I and Frank both got food poisoning the day before Thanksgiving. I know. That's like Amelia's favorite holiday. it's for so many reasons i look forward to it every like the day after thanksgiving i'm excited about next year's thanksgiving you know i'm one of those well and then amelia will have a thanksgiving dinner made for her birthday as well and now for christmas two a year and for christmas
Starting point is 00:01:09 oh my god i forgot that we do it for christmas my parents flew in i mean to be fair i would say like most holiday foods are the same totally we used to eat ham for christmas like a christmas ham but i don't eat ham anymore so we now do i've like conned the whole family into doing three thanksgivings a year i was thinking about how american holiday food like low-key kind of sucks yeah like a christmas ham i'm sorry this is i was thinking about this last night because i was like i don't want to eat a fucking turkey because i think turkey is like unless it is sandwiched me i'm not interested yeah it's very polarizing food um it just is so dry and then everyone's like well you just haven't had the right turkey or like you just haven't i'm i'm 33 yeah okay this
Starting point is 00:01:52 is my 33rd thanksgiving yeah and i've hated turkey forever yeah so i don't think it's a turkey uh or how it's made i think it's just that's how i just think it's it's just dry ass poultry some people don't like things that's why they that's why it's served listen i'll eat it with some gravy and some cranberry sauce that's fine right um but on its own i don't know yeah there's a reason it comes with gravy and it's because a dry ass bird yeah people really like like annihilate turkeys when they make it like they it'll be like dust my parents are so good like they're such good chefs both of them it was the most heartbreaking thing ever having them be there and they were so it was so nice having them there when i was sick i haven't been around my parents
Starting point is 00:02:38 when I'm sick since I was a kid really and I cannot remember the last time I was that sick like it was miserable but like having my mom there I mean having your mom there when you're sick is it's the best there's just something so comforting about your mom being around when you don't feel good yep like when you feel physically unwell yes it's just her presence automatically makes you feel a little bit better it absolutely does mom magic but then it also sucked because they were here to see us and we were both sleeping for 48 hours so like hang out and then you also can't like eagerly enjoy like your favorite celebratory meal you know exactly so like they still made it um and like we each ate just like a tiny bit we just like sat at the
Starting point is 00:03:25 table and did our absolute best you're both sweating yeah yeah oh my god dude like you're disarming a bomb i my friend had to come over on what day was that i think the day after thanksgiving or saturday to give us ivs my friend that's a nurse oh i just saw that came and brought like saline bags uh it honestly brought me back to life like so fast because i had sweat so much in 48 hours yeah your bite your body is it was trying to is working overtime mega struggling oh now grandpa has things to say he was so quiet when i first got here come here y'all i wish you could see this cat's meow face it is the most intense thing i've ever it really is it's like he's like screaming like angrily yeah i feel like it could put like a
Starting point is 00:04:06 really good like screamo soundtrack over videos of him i should start doing that um hi buddy did you have a good thanksgiving list i did um i was very high for all five days love it um or well i guess six if you're counting wednesday oh okay because wednesday is like friday yeah you know before thanksgiving no but but the weekend starts on friday you know right so in this circumstance it was a wednesday yeah uh and we went to a friend's house for thanksgiving i was consistently high it's to me one of my hobbies is getting high and eating hell yeah um and you know what no it's not a good hobby no hell no um i did gain like no joke like five pounds within a couple of weeks if you're gonna do that at any time winter is the best how
Starting point is 00:05:01 how else are you gonna keep me warm yeah um it's a survival tactic i and it just the sensation of eating and the food itself i just love being high and eating a snack um especially thanksgiving meal are you kidding me that's the perfect time to be high as fuck so um i was pretty consistently high the whole time and then they just kept putting off dessert there was always like something else that needed to be done before we could eat dessert for some fucking reason and i was losing my mind games no they were like like we went on a walk and then we started to get lost and then i was like what the fuck is the address and then we're like i think we should go this way i'm like mr liz give me the goddamn address now we need to go back i've been walking for too long
Starting point is 00:05:49 no he doesn't consume marijuana at all does he do weed um he used to okay um but he no longer uh does weed do you think weed is cool i do uh anyways i do too we yeah we go on a walk for fucking 45 minutes or something it's cold as shit i couldn't feel my hands i'm high i'm like all right let's wrap this shit up i want to go eat pie um and then we're sitting around people are playing video games and i'm like okay i can like chill a little bit longer before we eat pie i guess um and then we start putting away the leftovers and then there's always like something else to do and then i started just kind of like picking at stuff and then the host was like are you good liz and i was like i'm just waiting for dessert because like when the fuck are we
Starting point is 00:06:41 gonna it's 10 p.m this is like a seinfeld episode like i didn't even want to be here this late i'm just here for dessert i we've been here for a little while now and uh i would like pie yeah i would like to eat my pie and then leave i understand that we left at like 10 30 i was like all right let's go yeah three different pies oh so fucking phenomenal i mean pumpkin pie oh i love a heavy hitter you can't miss with a pumpkin pie um apple pie okay delicious okay good good uh homemade apple pie um oh homemade yeah all the pies were homemade wow um but pumpkin pie took the cake for me so to speak to the pie uh and then there was a mochi cake a pecan mochi cake yum a little too few too many pecans but god the texture of mochi especially when you're
Starting point is 00:07:37 god you're like paul hollywood so good what do you who's paul paul paul hollywood he's like the hollywood he's like the the tough critic judge on great british baking show okay i haven't seen it oh this is the best pie i've ever had one too many pecans though stodgy boredom it had too many yeah why what you don't need to have some point right it's because it's a very robust nut robusta nut it's a very robust it's a very rich nut yeah hell yeah and i just you don't need it and i feel like there's also like a lot of fat and calories in pecans um they're delicious they're like they're nature's candy guys they really are uh too many on that cake though have you seen where cashews come from blissful no can you please google it what what where how cashews are how
Starting point is 00:08:31 where cashews born yeah every time i think of cashews i think of that 70s show when they have cashews delivered to the hotel room and kitty is like cashews that's the most expensive nut is it i don't think it is okay i was gonna say they're kind of everywhere anymore i think maybe in the 70s maybe in the 70s cashews were the most expensive nut nutflation i didn't know that there was so much work that went into cashews and now you'll appreciate maybe that's why they were so expensive in that 70s show probably i do love cashews but they're not my favorite nut what's your favorite nut i was as soon as i said that i was like what is my favorite give me a top two i mean you can't go wrong with peanuts i feel like peanuts are classic you can do a lot with
Starting point is 00:09:19 peanuts they are a versatile nut um they are a versatile nut um big fan of almonds i love it almonds i i like almonds i mean obviously they're good plain but i also like almonds when they got some some fun seasoning on them yeah or like in chocolate the ooh in chocolate covered almond that is almond peanut or what hello almond m&ms 20 out of 10 i i do love a good almond it does make everything feel a little bit fancier it does i don't like almond milk no almond milk to me tastes burnt it's also bad for the environment so good for you oh okay yeah the amount i'm just gonna stick to my oat milk all all almonds are bad for the environment the amount of water that's needed to like grow like a pound of almonds is it's insane i don't know why i'm coming at you
Starting point is 00:10:12 with like all of these like produce facts today almond facts i think they're important nut facts nut facts hashtag nut facts i uh i'm nuts about nut facts nice uh i feel like i was gonna tell you something and we haven't really talked because i've been dead yeah sure we have a lot to catch i wanted to talk to you so badly but i was like she's dying i know what i it's like i'm just gonna i'm just gonna text her all my thoughts it's very bizarre coming out of like a like a hole and being like i haven't talked to liz in like two days because like we're like kind of always talking yeah you know yeah consistently throughout the day yeah and it was like yapping i couldn't even look at my phone i was that kind of sick it's just like every time i opened my phone i was like oh no
Starting point is 00:10:55 i wanted to talk about micro cheating what i sent that to you oh i've been so excited to talk about this what have you heard about the subject of micro cheating so i have i've never even heard that phrase until you brought it up to me that was so i sent amelia tiktok of examples of micro cheating and i was like i need to know what you think about this that was the my first exposure to it and then i've seen a couple of other things um so just for quick definition uh according to psychology today what is micro cheating micro cheating involves behaviors that lead someone to question their partner's emotional or physical commitment to the relationship so i think that's okay i was about to say like isn't all cheating just cheating like but that
Starting point is 00:11:45 makes sense that it's more of like a it's like a small behavior yeah and i think that we've talked about this before like couples need to be we've talked about this a long time ago couples need to be on the same page of agreeing what cheating is yes like is this cheating yes or no that's that's gonna clear some some ground rules yes absolutely clear it up real quick yeah um so i'll read what was in the tiktok i had sent to amelia it's just this tiktok is just a list of someone's uh notes app with things listed as micro cheating so super legitimate but i do want your thoughts on some of these okay um things that this person considers to be micro cheating secretly messaging someone deleting messages complaining about your partner to the to other people seeking
Starting point is 00:12:41 friendships with new people you find attractive maintaining contact with your exes slash people you used to talk to lying about your relationship status online or offline being touchy with someone else liking stories or posts of women knowing your partner is like knowing your partner is uncomfortable with so i think maybe like the woman in question you know um having secret friendships stalking someone you find attractive who isn't your partner always like i think like online stalking is probably what i mean like okay like we're doing i mean yeah like actual stalking is questionable i'm gonna call that micro um always commenting on and liking a person's pictures turn turning to someone else for your needs when your relationship is rocky
Starting point is 00:13:29 thinking slash daydreaming about someone you have a crush on so I mean there's a lot there I do feel like they're these kind of like toe the line I know everyone's different and like you're saying like to have a conversation with your partner to establish what you both consider to be cheating but it does kind of toe the line of like some of these are just like friendship behaviors like venting to a friend about like yeah if you're frustrated with your partner obviously also talk to your partner but like yeah little things that you're like i know this is a stupid thing for me to be annoyed about so i'm just gonna text my friend about it yeah and like if they're like of a gender that you are attracted to like i can
Starting point is 00:14:13 understand why that's like why are you talking to this person about yeah it's like why talk to anyone else you know so I could I can understand why it would be upsetting but it is also just kind of like it does like kind of like it's a little bit of a gray area um but then all like a lot of these other things don't feel like they're even like I think that it is very black and white like like deleting conversations with people like if you're trying if there's something that if there's something that you are trying to hide yeah regardless of the reason like if you're attracted to them that's one thing if it's because your partner would be upset if you're talking to them it's still that's still like a shady that feels there's no like good reason to be doing
Starting point is 00:14:55 that like there's no reason that I can think of where it's like oh okay I understand why you're deleting these conversations you know what I mean so it just feels like a lot of these are legitimate and a number of them are um like insecurities yeah well and it like it can be so specific like i can totally see someone like being a shitty partner and then gaslighting their partner yeah and they do these things that are can be classified as micro cheating i feel like micro cheating covers that gray area yes of like i consider this cheating totally because if you are trying to hide something from your partner if you know if they're like i don't like when you talk to this person if that person genuinely like you don't have any like romantic or sexual
Starting point is 00:15:42 attraction to them and it's just your partner's insecurity that's a conversation you need to be having yes absolutely you need to create some boundaries with each other around that like okay i know that you're uncomfortable talking with me talking to anyone of the opposite sex but that's not realistic yeah that's a problem that you're having internally yes yeah seeking friendships with new people you find attractive come on now come on you know better um maintaining contact with your exes or people you used to talk to like I don't think that that's big that big of a deal because I think I don't know some people have like dated or hooked up with someone that they're just friends with now and totally I think it depends on like what the history was and how
Starting point is 00:16:25 long ago it was you know what I mean yeah like if it's someone that they dated in high school now they're just like really good friends yeah it's a high school relationship come on totally there are different reasons why people want to be in contact with their exes and but like you're saying not all of them like it could just be like a nothing burger you know like it could just be somebody that like you like hooked up with like you're friends with someone that you hooked up with a couple of times yeah like good friends you know like it and it doesn't that's not it doesn't put anyone at risk of anything so it really is i mean i guess all of these are kind of like there's an asterisk next to all of these you have to be um a pretty like both emotionally intelligent and
Starting point is 00:17:12 a secure person yeah for these to not count yes does that make sense yeah like you and your partner both need to be pretty secure and trusting of each other and like be on the same page in terms of communication style but otherwise i think that like yeah most of these can definitely count as cheating um oh thinking slash daydreaming about someone you have a crush on i'm like okay you can't really control your thoughts that's so like you know mormon of them yeah i thought that one was a bit much i'm like okay yeah you can you can't police someone else's thoughts you can't even police your own thoughts and like when you tell you that's why we have intrusive thoughts yeah that's like the um the white bear study that i was talking about i think i talked about
Starting point is 00:17:58 on the podcast of like they put participants into a room and they're like you can think about anything that you want but don't think about the white bear and then like people couldn't stop thinking about the white bear when you're like like forcing somebody to not think about something they're going to think about it yeah definitely it's just how that it's how the human mind works well and i mean like if you just if you have a crush on someone like just acknowledge that feeling and let it be benign right now I think that's like a like you're going to have little like tickles of excitement about people throughout your life yeah because you're a human yeah that part of your brain doesn't turn off when you get in a relationship yeah yeah not to say that's like
Starting point is 00:18:38 an excuse just don't act on it yeah don't be a fucking idiot don't start befriending them don't be messaging them and deleting it yeah from your partner like don't lie about your relationship status to them right like it's just really obvious things yeah but that one you can't you can't police anyone's thoughts including your own that's ridiculous just be smart um i was thinking about how like it seems like younger generations are having like an even harder time dating than just like millennials like to me it seems a lot like both gen z and the older like gen alpha kids like have a very difficult time dating i'm sure that that has to do with like being raised just being on line all the time and also there's like a lot of kids that have like went through
Starting point is 00:19:34 high school or like the beginning of high school from zoom you know because of the pandemic so like they're not used to interacting face to face the way it seems like difficult from my perspective is like they're they're so intensely obsessed with each other but also boys like really fucking suck like they're they're shady and like not very emotionally intelligent or respectful and that's you know that's always going to be true for like teenagers yeah they're not always going to be like the most considerate or self-aware emotionally intelligent people but it seems like young boys and teenagers have this kind of like obsession with treating girls like shit yeah i don't know how to explain it like
Starting point is 00:20:38 because when i think about when i was dating as a teenager these boys were like busy trying to fucking sack tap each other yeah at lunch they were like doing dumb shit they were playing with those little skateboards tech deck yeah they were playing with tech decks they were like just doing shouting penis in the hallways yeah pretty like yeah they weren't thinking about girls as obsessively as it seems like boys do now and i also you know my opinions have changed so much since we started this podcast but i hate to point the finger at porn but i definitely think porn is a huge reason why so many boys are like emotionally underdeveloped yeah like the older they get it's not like they're growing out of this yeah like this mindset like I don't know
Starting point is 00:21:34 yeah no I agree I do think a big piece of it too has to do with just like the like there's no need for face-to-face communication they're just like like how much I had to lean on like my first boyfriend in sixth grade his name was Tom he and I were in a relationship and like interacted in person like one time over three months you know and it's like that was just like an insecurity thing and now like kids kids these days like they don't have to text each other they don't have to like interact in person it's so much easier to not so it's like i don't know i feel like it's there's like more social anxiety around face-to-face interaction when you didn't have to like force yourself out of that bubble out of yeah it's so true i don't know i feel like such
Starting point is 00:22:23 a boomer talking like that but like no it just feels like that has to be what's going on yeah there well i think that screen addiction like comes in so many forms like obviously i think porn addiction is a huge issue but i think that coincides so easily with screen addiction yeah because at any given moment you are consuming exactly what makes your brain go like crazy yeah you're you're always able to find like if i don't know i was like looking at something my therapist had sent me it was like a powerpoint deck about ocd um and how we understand like the neuroses of ocd from a stereotypical standpoint of like counting and cleanliness but um not from the standpoint of how your brain works with OCD. So like, um, not to say that I have OCD, I'm just
Starting point is 00:23:22 using this as an example of something that could be that behavior. So for me specifically, like having, wanting to know the answer to anything, like just having a thought of like, oh, I wonder how, uh, I was going to say how lava lamps work, but that's actually a trade secret and nobody knows. Um, are you serious? Yes. Um, and I could be wrong cause I'm just repeating what Mr. Liz told me um but i do believe i'm gonna choose to prove i'm gonna choose to believe that that's true yeah well mr he he he cares a lot about lava lamps you know yeah well okay so back to the ocd point of just um if i wanted to know literally anything like what's what's that actor's voice i recognize it and then being able to immediately find the answer instead of being like i don't know
Starting point is 00:24:06 yeah yeah do you remember a time where you could just not know things yeah yeah that shit's crazy I know. And I think about that. It's like the idea of just like having to just accept or like have to go to like a library and like find an answer. Yeah. Crazy. We're so old. I know we're talking like this. Well, it's true. I think, too, along with that, like this whole like abundance of information thing is like the idea. I've probably said this on the podcast before but I had a friend who was like we're living in a time of dating where people are like viewing dating like like Amazon like oh yeah if you have a vacuum that breaks instead of like going in and trying to fix the vacuum you like go and buy another vacuum and like that's how dating has become it's like oh this person's like good but like I don't know like we kind of communicate a little bit differently so you go and find another person instead of like let's fix this communication problem it's when the whole world is an option
Starting point is 00:25:07 you don't work hard on making something right because you'll you have this idea that you can just go and find it somewhere else you know what i mean it just feels like the idea of having everyone be an option has made everything more difficult with dating yeah does that make sense it does um i would love to see the comparisons between like just different like segments of life like dating and how we feel about politics and how people feel about like their home and all of that how the patterns between all of those like all of those things and late stage capitalism you know what i mean yeah like where where are the patterns and how people are feeling it has to be like a psychology like a psychological economist that's doing that study right now for their phd
Starting point is 00:26:01 thesis there has to be because like there that there's no way that that isn't there's not like a correlation i absolutely think there's a correlation between late stage late stage capitalism and how like agitated everyone seems to be doesn't it seem like that is it just me or is there just kind of this general vibe of like we're all fucking pissed yeah you know yeah i mean i think about that a lot but then i'm like are we just cognizant of it or has it always been like this like right I ask myself that too I'm like is it just always like this yeah is this how like our parents viewed things like or I was watching Forrest Gump which then inspired us to watch Tropic Thunder and I can see the through line yeah and like I realized I mean
Starting point is 00:26:51 like the vietnam war was so there was it was so pointless in general and people were so angry about it and it's like i think about that headspace that they were in and like how people feel now with everything going on and it's just like is it the same is it more is it more readily available because people have the internet now like i mean everything now is so shocking like like people's values are I don't know I think people just don't even know what their values are because they're so overexposed to information that they can't even like find the thing to believe yeah like anything that you read could be untrue I was talking about this earlier with frank like elon musk is actively making people dumber by paying people to get
Starting point is 00:27:50 engagement on tweets because like people are rage baiting for engagement farming so that they get paid and so they're saying things that are untrue that are just like how many of them are probably bots right and but it's people making money and people will do anything for money well and then i don't i don't know like elon musk isn't actually the richest man in the world he spent all of the money he had to buy twitter and that isn't even money he had he wagered other other businesses he owns yeah against this purchase like i don't know it's fucking bullshit um and i was talking about buying um msnbc yeah okay i'm at a point where like instead of feeling enraged i mostly am just like shut the fuck up yeah i don't care everything that he does is for is to get people
Starting point is 00:28:51 upset at this point just him just like just maga republicans in general i'm like i don't fucking care yeah like we're done talking yeah I'm done hearing anything you have to say they're petulant babies they got what they wanted well and like I have so many thoughts all at one time because I like I was saying like with people generally being angry but not knowing what to be frustrated about there's always i mean like we learned from from wicked people love having a common enemy um true but this is this is my little tangent not that i haven't been on one for the past 35 minutes um like i think that it's fine that there there needs to be a discourse so like we can't all be in agreement about everything all the time so i'm like yeah sure a republican party should exist
Starting point is 00:29:55 because we just we can't be not everyone can be in agreement and there's like not even internally are people all in agreement right but if you are a MAGA republican shut the fuck up yes we're done talking yeah i completely agree i don't have an okay here's i have issues with republican views right yes yeah of course i don't agree i don't have issues with republicans a lot of the time exactly this is not that and like i think that people are starting to realize that or maybe they have for a long time but i feel like people are starting to speak out more about that being the case that like there's republicans there's democrats and then there's like whatever the fuck y'all are and like it's the second that trump like kicks the bucket or whatever the whole cult
Starting point is 00:30:40 is going to fall apart and it's going to be is it yeah i think so i think so just because like there is no he is such a figurehead of this cult that like if jd vance like if trump dies if fbi don't come at me i know y'all want him dead too well he's old as shit he's super old he's just old not the picture of health no uh but like if jd vance even rfk jr has some things to say about what this man consumes in a day yeah okay i have so many things to say about him but like jd vance i think you me and frank were talking about this when we were recording last time he like doesn't have the sauce that like he does not that people are like so drawn to about trump like trump is say what you will about him like he's funny he really is i hate to say it but
Starting point is 00:31:30 some of the things he say he says are pretty funny he has they're funny in a way where you're like if my grandma if my grandpa said that yeah i would laugh yes absolutely not i do i want my grandpa being the president of the united states absolutely not yeah he has he had dementia and then he passed away from it and there needs to be age limits on presidents there absolutely does there just has to be um there also needs to be uh we need we need some parameters in place for SCOTUS yeah I agree but so I do think like
Starting point is 00:32:05 getting stressed it's when the whole thing with MAGA like they are so in love with Trump like Trump is my homie shirts and like the like Trump raising his fist flag like that it isn't
Starting point is 00:32:21 the viewpoints because what the fuck does he even stand for like people are so culty about him and i feel like when he's out of the picture the whole house of cards is gonna fall and it's going to be so beautiful to watch hopefully it won't be too late hopefully we won't be living in like like a north korea point like 2.0 at that point but it's fucking scary it's terrifying like to give such a small extremist group so much power is scary my thoughts have just been all over the place and i i just feel like no one wants to hear another political rant
Starting point is 00:32:58 from us okay you know yeah that's fair as much as i want to go on one but you and i can do that in our free time and we will yeah i love i love hearing you and frank talk about politics it's so much fun to hear him talk about it because he's so animated yes and he's so smart it gets me it gets me amped and you guys are both funny oh good it like makes me feel both like happy and relieved i have been so now that i'm like out of the headspace of because last time we talked about this i said like when people try to talk to me about politics i shut down like i'm being yelled at like that's starting i'm starting to come out of that now i'm like i'm mad you know what i want to enter i i'm i'm really wanting to enter like a bimbo mindset yes have you seen i'm sure you're
Starting point is 00:33:49 familiar with like like the bimbofication of girls online like where you are self-aware but saying like dumb shit you know what i mean yes where you're just like you're doing it because you like it's a joke yes and people are gonna get pissed yeah but it's not in a trolling way um like the perfect example i can think of is it was like a man on the street type thing and this guy uh was talking to people who had just seen wicked and this girl's dressed up as glinda and um he's like what do you think about um immigration policies and then um she's like let people in you know she was just like she was like the more the merrier and then he was like how do you think uh people should enter the united states and she was like any way that they can
Starting point is 00:34:43 and i was like i love that i she i and she was like the more the merrier like we should just like let people in and i was like yeah i love no i do i do love that like in any way you can it does feel like we're like like the um oh my god what what's the what was the show with the robots that didn't know they were robots westworld oh yeah it feels like we're like realizing that we're like we're west world robots right now like democrats specifically like it because we have been like like poked and prodded by like all these like trolls and people that just like say shit just to like make us mad and now we're just like at this point where we're like sure like i don't give a fuck like do whatever like let them in there are no fucking rules yeah our president
Starting point is 00:35:31 elect is a 32 time convicted felon and has been impeached twice yeah and and those are just like two really obvious things where you're like that shouldn't be happening that is kind of now now now shit is just everything's a joke yep so like i it doesn't matter what any of your other like social or economic beliefs are those two factors alone is that should be the point where you're like this is ridiculous this is getting out of hand and that's why values work is so important because if you write down and assess your values and how you reflect them every single day in your life by just what you are doing then it's not going to be so easy for some charismatic guy to come along and lie to your face yeah right and grope people right in front
Starting point is 00:36:27 of you like yeah it's fucking insane it's crazy to see like this is my last thought on this i feel like i need to be cut off like it's crazy to look back on like how much shit has happened as a result of him being such a cult leader like i was thinking about ashley babbitt the other day oh my god it's like that woman like fought for our country and then lost her fucking mind stormed the capital and got shot doing it for what like this for someone that holds the bible upside down like for a photo op like it doesn't make you he doesn't he's all sauce and no no flavor you know what i mean no seasoning all sauce no seasoning it's it's crazy what he has managed to do to people oh um also did you hear the news about nick fuentes no oh there is a leaked video
Starting point is 00:37:20 of someone sucking his dick yes um of a man yes uh it's alleged it's good because the view i did see it on twitter um not entirely purposely um you know you look it up and you're scrolling and there it is you're gonna see it you know um but i did hear a tiktoker explaining the video before i came across it so when i came across it i was like oh that's what it is so um the person giving uh the person fellatioing okay um is a far left vlogger his name's destiny yeah oh yeah is destiny gay he's been openly bisexual i didn't know that yeah okay destiny it's also a little problematic well you know he was sucking nick fuentes dick yeah um and people are like it's definitely him because he has very peculiar thumbs and you can see his thumb in the
Starting point is 00:38:27 video and i was like he does have peculiar thumbs like amongst this whole video happening i'm like yeah those are those are some strange thumbs interesting okay i do want to preface this with saying um i'm obviously anti-revenge porn however don't you just love that like this is when the far left and the far right become a full circle yes yes i'm like oh you guys did it we made it happen full circle into an oh the homophobes are always the the gayest yes the the most deeply closeted loudest gays yeah yeah also he must have been the one recording what did he think was gonna happen he was the one recording what was like what was the plan there that's a great question um and then uh a lot of the commentary was like all i learned from this is that destiny
Starting point is 00:39:18 gives shit head yeah i was like how do you know when watching if someone if how do you know that that's good head or bad head you know what i mean yes how do you know i think you could tell like the like the the level of moisture i think is big well how i mean this was like pixelated it was grainy it was dark you could definitely tell like what was happening yeah you can make out the faces and and whatnot so was he like not going very like far down the shaft no he was no hands in that shit oh my god he was giving him the the gluck gluck 9000 or whatever it is that they call it yeah what do they call it the i don't know but that man was eating like he's never had a meal in his life so okay well then good for him i don't know why that would be bad head but also destiny
Starting point is 00:40:13 like i didn't realize how much of like a hated figure he was because when they were doing that like jubilee series of like i have no idea what that is it's um this youtube show where they it was um oh my god who's the guy that's like oh my god he's the fucking worst his name is like charlie i don't know who any of these like something youtube players are well so it's it's like a studio it's like cut but in la and they do this thing called surrounded where they have one for this example it was like one republican versus a hundred um uh like woke college students and so like everybody would come up and like debate this guy what was his name regardless um they ended up having destiny like everyone was like do it with destiny do it with
Starting point is 00:40:58 destiny and i was like who the fuck is destiny so i thought everybody loved this guy and like i was watching this video of him and he is like wholly unlikable and i hate when like left wing figure heads are unlikable because it's like you have we're the only thing that we have going for us is that we're like good people at this point yeah like you can't show up and don't be a bad guy making a bad name for everybody yeah i do often feel like there are i mean there can be kind of a lot of people who are like that where they're left aligned for the sake of uh trumpeting that they're a good person yeah you know what i mean but it's not like it's not the like the lucrative
Starting point is 00:41:42 like grift to be on you know like if you're going to be loud about something like lie about being a republican because at least you'll make like a shit ton of money doing it it's true like why are you being loud and also just like annoying about something that is so because like the shit that the left believes in is so it's like human rights shit you know like don't be unlikable arguing for human rights shit you it says you're this is counterproductive we need you anyway okay we should stop talking about politics yeah this is a political show i mean being a woman is inherently going to be political whether you like it or not it's so true you know it's no matter what kind of woman you are your existence is going to be politicized
Starting point is 00:42:30 against your will i i made a video about this today being this like on the topic of being a woman because I was thinking how much I fucking love when you compliment a woman and they're just like thanks instead of being like oh stop you know because like we're so socialized to be like the example I used in my video was like when somebody compliments my hair I'm always like oh my god thanks it has a mind of its own and it's like just say thank you like why are you being weird about it like and whenever I compliment a woman and they just take the compliment I'm like that is so that's the hottest thing ever she's just like yeah I am always a compliment taker good you should be oh my god thank you so much but do you ever do do you return a compliment
Starting point is 00:43:13 sometimes I I don't actively think I should return the compliment you know what I mean yeah yeah I usually am like um oh my gosh thank you so much and then I give a little factoid about something like i'll get a lot of compliments on my jacket oh yeah you're you're fuzzy one uh-huh fuck yeah and then um i'll i'll give a little factoid about i mean my favorite thing is uh it's very warm yeah totally i do thank you so much it's very warm but it is not waterproof and then they're like i do something similar i'm usually like i'm usually like oh my god thanks it was like four bucks you know something i love telling people the price of something when when the price is very low yes yeah like thanks i got it at goodwill but it's it's truly it's like
Starting point is 00:44:05 i don't i've always been so bad at just like being taking a compliment yeah without turning it into a joke and then i was reading this article about um do you know caroline lusk is no she is a sounds familiar tiktoker she's very you've seen her she's very pretty she has like bright blue eyes and blonde hair and like she made this video i'm gonna look her up you'll recognize her while you're talking she made this video being like next time you're feeling bad about yourself like just think about the fact that like i got cheated on like me i look like this i have this face and i got cheated on and you're probably wondering like oh you probably have a shit personality then no i'm very smart and i'm very funny so like if you ever feel bad
Starting point is 00:44:42 about yourself think about that fact i've seen her before she's so funny people were enraged people were like yeah this is it says one of the most important vids on the internet and it's her and people like super humble too and then she was like people compliment how i look all the time yeah so god forbid i acknowledge it like and it doesn't she is very beautiful she's beautiful and like what how does it like make your day worse to have her know that it doesn't i just and i'm just like it is such like a a symptom of the patriarchy that's the most like like liberal feminist thing ever but it's a symptom of the patriarchy that like we don't feel like we're allowed to be to feel good about ourselves yeah that you're allowed to like how you look yeah what the fuck that would
Starting point is 00:45:32 make us too powerful if you liked how you looked if you felt good about yourself then like we would the men wouldn't have any power over us well one last political thing okay um more and more women are receiving higher education and um i just think with how desperate a lot of markets are for like new employees to do entry-level work that are reliable and like have these like education qualifications and more and more of them are women that means more and more women are going to be the ones making money so decisions yeah i just i'm curious to see how that plays out in the future like are businesses going to just give up their expectations of qualifications so they can hire men explicitly or are they gonna be are they gonna have this
Starting point is 00:46:34 mindset of like well i had to have a degree so you have to have one too yeah because that's how they feel about student loans yeah i have student loans so now you have to have them right i don't know it'll be interesting to see just like how the tides shift in general with like more and more boys than growing up to be men being raised by women that are working and their dads are staying home and how that shifts like how then when those boys grow up and treat women in the workplace or like treat like the kind of jobs that they have like it just because it could be interesting to see how the pendulum shifts with how like those i mean like money kind of controls everything so if all the money being made is going to women like
Starting point is 00:47:18 inherently the pendulum's gonna shift i love that this is happening in our lifetime and i hope by the time i'm dead something like cool happens in a feminist way you know i want some intersectional feminist shit to happen would that be so nice it would be it would just be like a breath of fresh air it doesn't even need to be big no you know like you have christian nationalist groups that are like women shouldn't have the right to vote and it's like okay well if i'm not gonna have the right to vote then i'm not gonna pay my fucking taxes yeah get fucked yeah you can't demand i contribute to society no taxation without representation that's the whole thing exactly that is the whole thing so um take that but i also wanted to add um from a business standpoint
Starting point is 00:48:10 most venture capitalist investments go to male-owned businesses but statistically so 98 two percent of venture-backed businesses are owned by women um but statistically those businesses that are owned by women outperform and are more successful than the other businesses owned by men so i just feel like if you were a smart investor you'd look at the numbers you'd look at the data and you'd be like well investing in women is going to be more profitable it's just like if you look at like the countries that came out of covid the fastest and the most efficiently they're like women run countries like new zealand like figured it out really quick and they have like a female leader it just i don't understand what the disconnect is here you think
Starting point is 00:48:57 like if you can't manage a household without a woman you certainly cannot manage government systems right without without women yeah uh anyways anyway should we call it yeah it's like an hour of us ranting i love that it's been a while since we've had like a good rant episode a rantisode that sounds like a dinosaur i wish my ranting points had been more um concise and well thought i love this retrospective no well i mean we didn't go into it with a plan no i'm just like here are my ideas i'm gonna talk about them no this is great who cares honestly like we this is everyone knows what to expect from us at this point that's true sometimes we just sometimes we have sometimes we have a good plan sometimes we just need to yap and today we just needed to
Starting point is 00:49:46 yeah we haven't we haven't we haven't yet we haven't even gotten our regular yap time in because i've been i've been traveling you've been dying and then you're also like hosting a million people exactly i was gonna say like you're like a b&b yes i left a note on their bed today being like welcome i'm like i'm really functioning as a b&b right now i'd love that i'm turning into providing top service thank you they're gonna talk about it forever i hope so i like making people feel comfortable the joy of being a good host is so rewarding it really is like when we hosted my cousin and his partner they were so thankful and also mr liz host extraordinaire i love that i don't think i've ever been more in love with him yeah i remember you saying that
Starting point is 00:50:34 he's such a great host um but just knowing that they went home to my extended family and told them what great hosts we were yes i love that it carries a lot of weight uh-huh and i just know it's gonna get back to my parents and then right you're gonna be so proud knowing they're gonna be proud of me yeah that feels good absolutely absolutely knowing they're gonna be proud knowing that other family members are gonna be like maybe i should visit liz oh god see that's where i draw the line i'm gonna go buy prilosec otc not sponsored because my heart feels like it's on fire oh am i dying maybe we all are would you like to call it uh lead us into our prayer sure okay we love you our children
Starting point is 00:51:26 i was trying to do like kind of like a weird like spooky church music thing it translated like you know when you're like oh yeah and it's like echoing and like there's like yeah yeah yeah and shit yeah yeah that's what i want that's what i was channeling

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