The Hoely Hour - E30 A Black Hole of Pleasure

Episode Date: March 11, 2021

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Initial plan term only. Greater than 50 gigabytes. May slow when network is busy. see terms my tits are out could be worse it could be worse it could be tits out for the pot tits out for the pot oh i like that Welcome to the Holy Hour. I'm Amelia Sampson. And I'm Liz Ball. Welcome to Mass. Your parents tell you it's an hour, but sometimes it's longer. Sometimes it's 56 minutes. Can we give you a snack in the middle? A snack and some wine? Yeah. The body of Christ. The blood of Christ. It's just four loco welcome to the holy hour where uh the blood of christ is just a four loco and the the whole the body of christ is um pizza you found on the ground on capitol hill

capitol hill pizza capitol road pizza gross all right i'm cracking this bad boy open why is this so difficult long ass monday oh my god i had a call at 8 a.m this morning cheers and then I just had a call until 7 30 p.m. are those grays they look like highlights those are not grays you kidding me I've been finding grays recently they're like thicker and coarser I want a gray I want just one you should try dating the guys that I date get some grays um I found a gray in my boyfriend's hair the other day and I was like oh I think you have a gray and he's like really and he was really excited typical man response yeah he's gonna be a silver fox oh I know I really love salt and peppermint yeah and he was like will you pull it out for me

I was like you want me to pull out your first gray he's like yeah I want to see it and I was it in his hair or his beard his hair does he have a beard he has scruffy yeah so I pulled it out and then uh he was looking at it and observing it and then I was like wait can I hold it it's my turn to hold it it is thicker and coarser it's my turn to hold the gray hair i hope i gave this to you yeah i'm responsible for it i should hold it i don't feel like i'm a very exhausting girlfriend it doesn't sound like i think if i was uh he wouldn't date me but also i used to be an exhausting girlfriend so to him or to uh no in john i i exhausted myself as well as anyone in my immediate vicinity I feel like everybody needs an exhausting girlfriend or

boyfriend phase yeah you need to exhaust yourself so then you just like by the time your frontal lobe's done developing you're like tuckered out I'm tired I'm done I have no more fucks left yeah it's like letting a kid run around all day so they sleep well at night yeah I'm like am I allowed to give this few fucks before age 30 wow that's power i don't it's i feel like my fucks have been reallocated like my fucks used to be given about my personal life but now my fucks are for like equality fuck yeah that's more that's a better use of my fuck oh for sure that's probably arguably the best use of your fucks yes for equality fucks for equality fucks for equality but also like it's good like you used up your fucks on caring for yourself and now you can

use your fucks on other things a dumb ass selfish teenager and in my early 20s everybody needs to get fucks about themselves like my mid-20s and then you tuckered yourself out everything kicked my ass all at once ain't that the truth but look at me now rocking hoop earrings yes uh-huh you look so pretty i love that jumpsuit thank you 10 out of 10 experience i feel pretty good good i feel good wow we're really like the yin and yang right now I like rolled into I rolled into Liz's apartment wearing gray on gray my hair we're recording film so I'm sure you'll see it go to our Instagram see my hair I think you look cute that's nice of you to say I really one of these days I need to try harder when I come over here because I always walk in and Liz always looks

so good it's because i am self-conscious just the bang i got an alfalfa going on um so last week after my crazy ex made a twitter account to harass me from and i found out it was him um i posted on our instagram story and i asked uh some of the some of the peeps some of the angels um like what does your crazy ex do and you guys told me some of the funniest shit i've ever read um one of them was particularly alarming um so first i'm gonna read some of the answers and then we'll get into the story i made it a a story on our on our instagram it's so funny uh so i said um what weird shit does your ex do and then someone said exists love that answer same um another person said lie in an almost euphoric manner whoa um and then this person said message

me every once in a while to tell me they wish they hadn't fucked up which that's power isn't that the dream yeah um and another person this is the shocking one she paid a friend to follow her in his car call me up asking for help i show up and the dude hits my car i said what the actual fuck yeah did he did they say what the dude hit the car with another car he hit on purpose yeah he sacked he murdered his own car yes he was trying to fuck the girl for sure i unclear um but that's the story i asked this person to tell us the story why else would you say oh is there a full story yes so he gives us a full story and i'll tell it after oh i read the rest of these okay wow cliffhanger um and then this person said uh texted me that he's going to pleasure himself

imagining me with other men and ladies and gentlemen if that is not the definition of a i don't know what is what the actual fuck um this one said sends random snapchats of stuff he's programmed haven't talked in five years stuff he's programmed yeah i guess maybe he's a code programmer probably get that amazon dick out of here i was about to say the developer dick developer dick it will disappoint you but he has money developer dick i feel like developer dick is designed for um like uh femdoms oh yeah dominatrixes oh for sure get you that developer dick make him your little sub step on his balls and stilettos yes you said that we both were like she did that you're such a ride or die you were like yes

yes step on his fucking balls whatever you say amelia step on those developer balls um hang for a moment of silence uh okay and this next one said uh sends random snap oh no i read that one married but writes me letters to check in also no idea how he got my address oh no and i said time for a restraining order i wonder what the letters letters is he like in world war one like why is why doesn't he just like hit her up on the phone my dearest harriet i noticed you have blocked me i'm writing to you to let you know it hath been a fortnight oh he switched accents up in the middle yeah i don't know from british to to southern that was all right yee yee

okay um uh this next one showed up to my workplace twice kept calling to solicit business had to go to the police i said it's a bold move cotton let's see if this one pays off um and then this next one uh text me to cuddle while i'm in a tent with my boyfriend at the same festival and he really shot his shot i wonder if he knew that the boyfriend was he must i'm sure he knew i bet he was like it would be such a flex if i got her to come into my tent balls of some men are just oblivious and do not care yeah right selective attention um this next one uh bought the house next door to me and i know her and she's married what a fucking nightmare he's just living next to her with his binoculars like that is the i would be what the hell they

doing over there what a fucking night if my ex moved in next door i can't imagine anything worse i think i'd put a sign in my window or maybe i would just like intentionally fuck in my window oh yeah just a bunch of why not yeah just what's that called when you want people to watch you have sex voyeurism i answered that too quickly yeah you did i didn't even finish my sentence voyeurism anyways okay moving on um this one said message me on valentine's day i dream about you almost every night give me a fucking break i want to know like all the statuses of all of these exes like were they like a long time ago ex like how long did they date yeah did they still talk breakup are they

dating someone else are they still fucking yeah are you still fucking if you're still fucking makes sense why you know they're hung up uh this one this one was rough it made me sad sent me a photo of him kissing another girl two days after we broke up for what what a piece of shit or what also to me that's just like you are the one who is like not handling this yeah misery loves company what else what other reason would you need for sending a picture of that to your ex yeah i don't other than you just not wanting to be the only one that's depressed that's fucked up the level of petty I can't imagine a scenario unless I got cheated on and I was feeling like mad petty and like deserved to be feeling petty I can't think of another reason that that would

ever be okay yeah like girl if you cheated on him like maybe love came yeah otherwise fuck him yeah we haven't decided whose side we're on yet no we need the whole story we've just decided to turn this into a whose side are we on game no she she's our listener we're on your side we will what did he do to make you cheat on him yeah you get you get your dick queen i hate all of this yeah we we do not support cheating in any no aspect if you're gonna cheat just break up you know that's the best thing you can do yeah we're also going under the assumption that you cheated yeah i'm gonna assume that she probably didn't and this guy's a turd goblin

fuck that guy i hate him i hate him we hate him for you um and then this final one said uh my ex tried to steal my dog after we broke up and then i had the dog before we dated like that would that's actually probably like next level heartbreaking for me i can't even imagine that yeah someone tried to steal gruffin from you i would if someone tried to take my cat that's that's probably the only time I would get violent yeah you're gonna die yeah like actually wow ew um so let me get into this reader story because it was a just a wild ride so this is a guy um and I was like wait can you please tell us the whole story this is wild I need to know more and he said absolutely i also asked if i could tell it on the podcast he said yes um so he said

um we were we had remained friends but it was pretty fresh after the breakup so i was still holding out hope at work she called me up one night and said she and a friend of ours were driving around near where i lived and some dude had started following them and they wanted me to meet them nearby i drove down and they pulled in as well as this dude i pulled my car in front of his to shield them he claimed he was lost and was trying to find the freeway i told him it was easy to find explained but he played dumb so i agreed to lead him there and my ex and my and friend were going to follow him in case he tried anything funny when we got to the mall right next to the freeway we pulled in and i u-turned to tell him where to go from here and he ran into my bumper

while u-turning as well i thought he was just dumb as fuck and pulled further up and he floored it and side swiped me until his window was next to mine and he had this rage face oh that's terrifying yeah i peeled out of there um and looped around the mall he took off another in another direction i pulled back into the parking lot and my ex and her friend were parked there shaking a cop was across the street and came over my ex told him it was an organ plate it wasn't and then the cop accused me of being involved in some drug deal gone wrong a cab what the fuck are cops good for a cab absolutely nothing that was me not not the narrator i'm the one who said it um oh even grandpa says a cab um my ex was in tears and

apologized uh for asking me to come out to help them years later she shows up at a friend's party and drunkenly confesses to setting it up the dude was some new friend of hers but he wasn't supposed to hit my car or anything just play creepy i was so livid but i didn't want to cause a scene so i just told her how fucked that was and left the party wow i know was that the whole story yeah okay what what the fuck who okay new friend is all sorts of 50 shades of crazy who who sacrifices he's like one of those like crazy guys that's like yeah i'm gonna protect i protect women yeah but then would like hit you with his car like what the fuck and then like her lying about it being an organ plate too so fucking calculated what that's fucked up i

like hate her at that point she should have reported the car yeah I I don't know what the fuck that guy was definitely trying to fuck who why else would he sacrifice his car I I will die on this hill and not even that like how many people you put in in danger yeah like this guy's like yeah I'm holding out hope it's gonna work with my ex we can mend things i don't i mean like that you dodged a bullet my guy well uh yeah but also like the guy that she hired like he he doesn't know that's some illegal shit the guy that wrote this story like could have been packing you know what i mean true you don't know you pull up window and give a rage face yeah damn fucking hell what oh no could it be me i can't imagine doing

anything that crazy but that shit's wild yeah that's a crazy story i'm trying to think what the craziest thing one of my exes has ever done and i don't know sleep with a bunch of people while we're together that's pretty crazy um yeah i think that shit's insane yep um i don't i haven't really had like crazy exes do you want one of mine yeah no i so after i told that story last week um like a couple days later wednesdays is when i have my therapy appointments and i was like talking to my therapist and i was like i was just reflecting on like that my ex does this like clockwork every 1.5 years where he pops up in some way because he can't handle the idea that i don't think about him or something um i know that has nothing to do with me and uh i was just

kind of like replaying in my head like all of like the fucked up things that my exes have done and for a while i was like okay well at least like scorpio was not he's like not the worst of my exes like sure the last guy i dated like i forget i dated him because he was so normal yeah i and like nice uh but other than that like of my like badly behaved exes he is i was thinking he was the best because like the firefighter ex tried to cheat on his wife with me yeah and he knew i had a boyfriend and he was like waiting for me to like decide the boundaries and i was like what do you know right because it's your idea it was your idea yeah i don't know no god i really can't fucking deal that's and then uh my other ex did cheat on

his now wife with me and then i was like oh okay well at least he hasn't done some shit like that he just kind of like won't leave me alone and at that point i was like at least now he leaves me alone yeah like it wasn't great it didn't end great there are some things that are frustrating and weird but then so he pops up with some next level shit and i was just like what the fuck is wrong with me like this is a pattern where i've dated like men who behave like this and like the common denominator is me and then my therapist was like you could also argue like when you were in these relationships you weren't living consciously and you've done a lot of work to like work on yourself and change and become very self-aware and like now you would never date

someone like that and it also made me feel very thankful um that I am not in relationships like that yeah I mean you were saying last episode that like you would just kind of date whoever wanted to date you yeah I'd be like well we can like if something didn't feel right it's like I would know in my gut and in my heart like this wasn't right for me but I'd be like well maybe like this will change no and then that's why they that's another reason that they have all of this like really immature behavior is because like you were just ignoring those red flags yeah and then i think both of us are in this mindset we're like okay well we can change these things about a partner but you should never date someone with that mindset no and i'm gonna blame my virgo venus

who likes to fix broken things i found out what my venus was i almost texted you last name tell me Taurus oh I know I like that I feel like it's accurate yeah oh I started talking to a Gemini man I've been meaning to tell you it's birthday's June 7th it was an accident god damn it why I know you do that game over for me for sure I feel like Gemini men are only good for having fun with mm-hmm yeah and I mean that's really all I'm looking for so come on over fair enough come on over baby in the words of christina aguilera did you want to talk about love bombing this episode i have things to say what what angle were you hoping to take i was just gonna let you take the reins on love bombing okay look at this what's happening i feel like i'm falling apart

um yes a little blanket and some tea yeah some tissues i'm okay my little mealy i'm so tired um I'm so tired of bullshit yeah I'm tired of all the bullshit uh so I have been doing a lot of research on like clinical narcissism recently for reasons I don't want to dive into because it would be a whole other episode together yep um and I always thought I'm sure I've said this on a past episode I've always thought that narcissism was like am I such a narcissist like cocky yeah and it's so much more than that from a clinical standpoint to the point of it being if we're talking about legitimate narcissism it's a whole different ball game whole different ball game being egotistical and a lot of people were telling me to research narcissism for a lot

of reasons um unrelated to me as an individual i just want to point out i mean everybody has narcissistic traits that's the issue with personality disorders everybody has like some of the characteristics of them but when there's a lot of them that's when it's like a diagnosis so I started reading up on narcissism there is a diagnosed narcissist on TikTok his at is mental heelness and he just he has like 300,000 followers he has a lot of people following him now but he talks about narcissism so through that I found out about love bombing which I hear from a lot of my friends that are going through breakups deal with with exes that they believe are narcissists because it is such a like keystone to narcissism I've been experiencing love bombing as of recent

with a very casual fling but what love bombing is is when you like intensely you just like throw all of your affection on someone all at once and just like shower them with all of this attention and then you can just turn it off and move it on to someone else easily because then they freak out and then they're like begging you for attention they will do anything and then they're like what did i do wrong that you are no longer giving me this kind of attention and like you likely did nothing wrong yeah like they're just love bombing you because you're giving them this satisfaction and attention that they want right then and there and then you think they're this amazing person and that you did something wrong and then they

like go and move on and love bomb someone else in front of your fucking face um and sometimes it's more complex than that yeah i mean that's the very basic yeah explanation of it but that's really such a characteristic of it too is that they then do it in front of your face yeah to somebody else it's disgusting and it fucking hurts because you get so attached to that kind of attention and then they're able to just like turn it off like it was nothing yeah and that hurts that fucking sucks because then you have that as your bar to not wonder like what did I do wrong exactly it's an unrealistic standard for how someone should love you and I got caught up in that a lot when I was getting out of a love bombing situation um because I was like trying to fight for a relationship that

wasn't right for me because I was getting that level of affection and it was because it was it was a love bomb it wasn't and it's not to say that it's not genuine but it is a little fabricated and when someone love bombs you they will never give you that level of affection and comfort ever again and I think we've all probably experienced something like that and this isn't the same as like you know once you're comfortable in a relationship like the excitement turns into more of like a comfort level yeah like you you know each other you don't need to be anxious all the time um but I definitely felt that way in a few relationships where at the beginning you are just absolutely love bombed by them and they like do all kinds of

things to gain your trust and your affection and then they take it away from you and then maybe they'll give you bits and pieces so you continue to stay in this relationship with them and pine for their affection and attention and how you do that is going to be different like person to person like for me you know I defaulted to my attachment wounds of starting a fight because if you're fighting with me I know you still care about me and now I just can't even imagine that yeah oh my god it's such an ugly feeling like if my boyfriend ever started yelling at me the way my exes and I would yell at each other I would be like oh my god call 911 one yeah yeah I know yeah longing for that like attention in any form that you can get it I was

realizing like I was staying angry at my ex was keeping me feeling close to him which I think is kind of like a similar thing it's like love and hate are so closely aligned absolutely and it was hard for me to see him be able to just like turn it off so quickly because it really does make it feel like you've done something wrong and then love bomb someone in front of your face uh-huh pretty fucked and recently the reason we're talking about this now is because i got super love bombed by a super narcissist luckily i didn't get emotionally attached and luckily we didn't talk about it yeah that too this is like news to anyone listening yeah yeah this is not someone you've heard of no it's not no it's not i and this was very short-lived i mean like what we were we

started he messaged me in mid-december or end of december and um yeah he like was doing the whole like i want to fly you out to see me um he was like calling me just like in the middle of the day just to tell me he was thinking about me he was making me feel super special he was like talking shit about a bunch of other women in his life which is a number one red flag for me and my dumb ass ignored it and it was those were people that he was also talking to that he was talking shit so that if i saw them interact with his shit did i not tell you that no yeah so if i saw him interact with their shit it was just because he was being nice this man was polished it was scary scary so yeah he kind of like blipped off the he called me on valentine's day to say happy

valentine's day and then that was the last that i heard from him i'm going to throw this man to mercer island like i'm going to drop kick him into the sun yep i cannot believe this it was the hoops are coming out oh yeah no they're coming out to play they're jumping out hold my earrings they click out pretty easily perfect they're perfect for fighting um but yeah he has a new lady now he flew her out to see him for now for now I know I'm scared for her um she seems really really sweet but um and that's how you I think that's also how you especially know that like you aren't personalizing this like the fact that you can recognize this other woman and not be jealous of her and like be like yeah she is really great and she's very she seems like really

lovely and I'm scared for her yeah no 100% and honestly like I was I was really enjoying the attention I was getting from him but but a part of me felt a little scared of him because it was so intense and like it was like too good to be true all along but I was still kind of like whatever YOLO like I'll fly out and see him like I was in that mindset because like I don't know you're not going anywhere without me I know we're not going to meet any man without me that's true that's true that's the second time that we've almost flown out to like meet someone together I know someone nearby so yeah I guess we're going yeah but I mean I'm really glad that he showed himself before I got in too deep or like told him too much personal information or before I went out there or but he

was just like I don't know a scary man but I'm watching him love bomb this new girl and pretty publicly too which is a sign of a narcissist and um I'm just kind of waiting for it to play out but I really do feel badly for her because she's nuts about him she's like tweeting about being in love and like all this shit so I don't know we'll see that's rough it really is it sucks and she's young too and she's been married before how old is she 24 oh my god a baby she's been married before a child anyway he definitely uses his position to like gain the trust of women but then behind closed doors like treats women a completely different way yeah that is not aligned with what he says yeah he believes yep his whole image is about like kindness and like treating

women right yeah and then he has this like charles manson never actually killed anyone yeah he just had everyone else so he has this like charismatic way about him and he's attractive which gets people to like be on his side so like i know exactly what you're talking about and i've seen people talking about it on twitter but like this is why women don't have such a hard time coming out about being sexually assaulted by a man yeah because they're immediately questioned their intentions are questioned they're dismissed as being jealous like yeah I don't know yeah no it might warrant a further discussion I think it definitely will and I really do believe that it's going to I think it's good that we've primed it before it like

does blow up because it's this is not the end of this no I'm for sure going to be hearing more about this so i think in april it'll be a good conversation to have so the definition of love bombing as told by the people of wikipedia is an attempt to influence a person by demonstrations of attention and affection it can be used in different ways and for either positive or negative purposes fuck that psychologists have identified love bombing as a possible part of a cycle of abuse and have warned against it critics of cults use the phrase with the implication that love is feigned and that the practice is psychological manipulation in order to create a feeling of unity within the group against a society perceived as hostile fuck holy shit yeah this is on par

with everything this guy does and has been doing my hair is standing up i i mentioned charles manson you never actually killed anybody but holy shit he inspired people to do it by creating a cult holy fuck welcome to redux a podcast about music by a music lover for music lovers i'm van berryman math teacher by trade podcaster by hobby former radio host and production coordinator and avid music lover step into redux for deep looks into album reviews with a concise but thorough comparison of an artist's first album to their most recent and their journey to get there plus top 10 lists best ofs and other musical inputs to get you through the day if you like what you hear drop a follow on instagram at redux podcast and feel free to let me know there what

reviews you want to hear come along on this journey with me sit back and enjoy the ride so today's march 1st when we're recording right now um and this marks the year anniversary of me flying home from costa rica and coming home to everything being shut down and i was like the fuck is going on over here it's fucking scary um so this is the story of my flight home from costa rica to canada uh this is one of my favorite stories i can tell i feel like i'm like like getting ready for bedtime i'm like let's tell me the story about the flight from costa rica it's because it was so unbelievable and i was just on this emotional roller coaster like watching it happen yeah so the flight is probably like six six and a half hours long um i sat i i

got the window seat which is i'm a window seat girl i feel like you're either a window seat person or an aisle seat person i'm an aisle seat person towards the end of boarding this woman rushes on and she is wearing um like a big floppy hat and she's wearing her bikini top as bra and like this big loose shirt and a maxi skirt and uh she sits down next to me she just came on in rushing in with chaotic energy and she like sits down in the aisle seat and then she looks at me and she says hola and you know i fucking hate a white girl saying hola hola hola i've been in costa rica for two weeks hola god also i hate that it's always the last person on the plane that sits next to you and just with the chaotic energy and it's true it's always like you're like

oh i might get this whole ass road myself and then like someone comes like huffing on the bag whatever uh but i i let she seemed nice she had like positive energy so i was just like okay like whatever but i was just like hi i was minding my own business yeah i was like um i'm gonna watch riverdale this is when my little riverdale stint unfolded i was just like i have nothing better to do i guess i'll fucking watch riverdale did you know the world was about to shut down yeah little did i know and then i'll give a little preview to the future which was me getting high as fuck watching riverdale and it making me so confused and i was like wait is riverdale kind of good

or just stoned out of my mind watching fucking riverdale and i was like that thing isn't that bad oh wait hold on wait which of the Sprouse brothers is in Riverdale um Cole I think it's Cole I saw Cole when I was in Vancouver fun little insert he was in a bar I was in this is so relevant I know I was in Vancouver I know and you were watching Riverdale this is meta as fuck yeah what the fuck but yeah they film in Vancouver fun fact apparently the whole city of Vancouver hates them I'll send you a tiktok yeah they're all like dicks I guess cole spross is nice lily reinhardt's apparently awful oh i know don't you hate that she seems so sweet apparently she's not okay go on well that's the tea folks um so chaos girl is looking around

and then there's this guy who's sitting like across from us he's like across and one row back and he's in the window seat and he's all by himself and he's pretty cute um and she decides she's gonna move over to that seat and I was like first of all respect like yeah shoot your shot the balls and then I also was like what the fuck is wrong with me that you don't want to sit by me even though now I have an entire row to myself I was like um excuse me I am clean and polite and small I said hi when you said hola yeah we were friends I thought we had a thing but I guess not even though i was mad when you sat down because i wanted the road to myself so anyways she gets up and she's like is this seat taken and he's like no and then she like i feel like she was

like cute enough you know yeah so she gets all her shit and she moves over to that aisle seat and then uh homegirl wastes no time they start she's like chatting him up and he started showing her videos of like this rave he went to um and like all i could hear was just like oh my god no and then she just who knows what if she's like wow yeah and then um i i could only really hear him i could not hear her but uh they were talking about astrology at some point because he said he was a Pisces which yikes I know big yikes um oh also he's wearing elephant pants no yes he was wearing elephant well they sound like a match made in heaven he was wearing elephant pants she was wearing a bikini top as a bra can I make it any more obvious I'm so happy I caught your

drift on that so uh like we take off and by the time we're like stabilized in the air which is maybe 10 minutes um she is in the middle seat and they are holding hands like close together like um they're like intertwined and their faces are like super close together and they're having some very intimate conversation this is like this has to be at least only 20 minutes into us being in the air jesus and then i'm like watching and there's like a woman directly across from me too and we're both like low-key making eye contact like what the hell and i wish i was her because i wish i could hear what they were talking about anyways they are like an inch apart from each other's face and then i'm looking i'm like okay they're gonna kiss at some point and i like look

over maybe like a couple minutes later they're in a full on makeout section fully making out in this row i kind of love her i like i have no i i have no choice but to stand no how do you pull that off i know right oh my god i could never have that level of confidence and they both were cute so like yeah good for them um but like they're just like having this steamy makeout session and i'm like going in between the two most dramatic things ever which is watching this love story unfold and riverdale and it's riverdale like season one so right that's arguably the best season yeah you were just yep yeah it was great i was like oh my god this is a pretty good show um you're watching little did i know split screen going on yeah i have

split screen happening i'm watching riverdale on my ipad i'm watching this couple have a flash romance in front of my face making out like it's not love train it's love plane i just had to say it it popped in my head i was like i can't miss the opportunity zing um what if they were actually secretly married and they were just like doing a little bit wait i love that i kind of hope that was the case except probably not but yeah probably here's the rave i went to yeah loud enough for just me to hear i will say tweet the whole thing if i had a row to myself and someone's like can i sit here i'd be like go fuck yourself this is my row homegirl did like she was like that guy i love her she's like i am going to

fuck on this flight i wonder if they did because she was on his lap at one point yeah i was watching and there was no i think maybe he grabbed her boobs nice um she was wearing a bikini top as a bra so who's to say but I was like if they start getting like super sexual on this flight I will be very upset I did not sign up to watch this but I will is that a fake lizard on your floor yes why does it look so real I just my heart just went into my butt I have um so my cats when they lived with my parents for a few months in Las Vegas when I first moved up here uh they loved like chasing the lizards in the backyard so they for Christmas they got my cats little lizard toys that they have absolutely demolished I was like I've never

that's someone's pet lizard i'm like we don't have wild lizards here what is that gatsby loves it that's so cute okay sorry i interrupted i'm fully panicked what the fuck is that uh yeah so and even the even though like flight attendants were like commenting on like their little romance unfolding but the funniest part i think was the woman directly across from me like she put a blanket over the crack in the seat so she didn't have to watch the thing i love that she's just trying to read her fucking book she's like are you kidding me right now god oh my god wow they were really didn't you get a picture of her on his lap yes i got several pictures do you can i see yeah i want to see again i think that's so fucking fun i love that story i want i mean very off off small chance

that like either she listens or like somebody that she knows listens like please i i want to talk to you yes please contact us because you might live in oh well you flew in like low key yeah they're probably canadian but like low key i hope they got married wouldn't that be such a great love story married amazing love story i'm here to tell it and memorialize it forever yeah on my twitter i live tweeted it obviously of course you did that's that's the only way to live through in a moment like that you know it's the year anniversary of covid lockdown and it's the year anniversary of this couple almost fucking in front of my face happy anniversary to me and that couple the only thing worse than getting shown rave videos is being told stand-up jokes

in bed after sex with someone what can you think of like what is something cringy that men do and i'm going to put men i'm going to put men under the microscope men do um one of them is tell stand-up jokes yeah in bed if they tell stand-up jokes i cannot tell you guys so that guy fake dom i've talked about on past episodes i've had multiple women from tiktok reach out to me and be like i think that we're we've hooked up with the same guy and it's always him have i not told you this no i've gotten two messages are you kidding me apparently he asked one of the girls if she's autistic to her face are you are you fucking kidding me i had to move away from the mic for that he's just wildly inappropriate he yeah i okay okay listen we are going to create a glass

door for these dumb ass fucking guys seriously like shit like that is unacceptable he like sure maybe i could dismiss like okay maybe he's not entirely a turd goblin like yeah i can i could see that i guess like he just sucks or maybe he was just shitty to you yeah you know right and we would still hate him but exactly yeah and like obviously there's nothing wrong with having autism obviously but like to ask somebody and you know and knowing him he meant it in like a venomous way you know what i mean like that's autistic yeah that's exactly right and he was actually asking like she was like i think that we might be um eskimo sisters is what she said and i was like uh-oh who and then he she said his name and i was like oh haha yeah he was kind of a dick to me at

the end and she was like yeah that tracks and then she just told me like all of these stories about him yeah oh my gourd apparently he ended up with her and then they kept having sex for a while too so at least i dodged that bullet i want to ask her about the vibrator oh my god i didn't even ask her about that we need to ask her about the vibrator but also i hate him no honestly fuck him i finally unfollowed him i can't believe you were still even following him he had a private instagram so i just wanted to keep tabs because i wasn't feeling a type of way like where it was detrimental to how i was feeling so i was like but then his existence just started bugging me so i just unfollowed his existence bugs me oh he's such a piece of shit i cannot fucking believe

that yeah oh god we need a glass door for dating apps like yeah we really do because do you remember lulu did you have lulu in college yeah but i do remember having lulu but i also think it was fucked up it was so fucked up and that's why i think that it didn't last long yeah was because it was obviously problematic because it was like rate is dick yeah and like sure a guy can have bad dick game and still be a great guy yeah and dick game you can change that yeah you can be taught dick game yeah and that's beautiful we but you cannot change a man who is fucking 30 years old and thinks he's a dom but he says that and uses that so he can manipulate women and abuse them and be like it's okay i'm a dom go fist yourself in the butt and he was not he didn't

know what aftercare was he didn't know what after like that is the basics of being a dom there is very there are very few people that i dislike so strongly i'm going to punch him in the dick two out of ten man moving on less than he was hot then he's a good looking no no you cannot see his eyelashes or his eyebrows and those are traits of a sociopath to me okay i'm sorry to those of you who are dating a man who you can't see his eyelashes or eyebrows i know of one good one he's the only exception oh my god that's such a specific but so funny well anytime some like fucking vanilla ass looking man that comes up to me and i can't see his fucking eyelashes i'm a dom get out of here the fuck out of here straight up i i cannot

i cannot i'm getting sweaty right now the fact that we had sex i told him that i didn't come and he said i'm sorry and didn't do anything about it you're not a dom is a red you're not fucking flag i'm never in my life i am enraged right now like i already thought he was a piece of shit yeah and a fake dom and you just uh multiplied that by a million yeah he was a garbage he was a garbage human god i hope he's listening you're a turd i hope you fake dom you're a turd he would only be listening if he thought that i would be talking about him because he's a narcissist bring this episode full circle should i find a sex fact oh i have one oh you have a sex fact sex fact of the week sex fact of the week sex fact can we do like a little shuffle

version like it's a sex fact of the week i think that is the winner okay so the sex fact i have is very loosely a sex fact and i'm really sorry i cannot find the woman on tiktok who shared this information but she shares a lot of information about genitalia and just like scientific things about it so um when you when a someone puts their penis in a vagina it like sucks it in what yeah and that's i mean that is also like your body like allowing someone in to it i love that well i was thinking of it as like a black hole i'm like yes kind of everything oh okay continue i'm intrigued a black hole of pleasure uh so for any of my fellow cup users out there i feel so

fucking stupid that i didn't like put two and two together because i use a cup and when you like put it in it like your vagina just sucks it in that makes so much sense well there's so many muscles in there yeah and it also is like your body is um accepting like you are touching your own body yeah and that's also how it works with tampons is like your body registers it as your fingers are down there um so with a cup like you know you know what's going on yeah you're allowing it to be in your body yeah um so your body will naturally like accept someone that you are comfortable with and like are allowing into your body wow yeah i asked my boyfriend and i was like um are you like do you get like sucked into a vagina and then he was like yeah they know this

yes i have some people ask questions too it's our 30th episode and i'm sure you know that based on the number of the episode and the title that's kind of crazy to me that we have 30 episodes I know that's wild it's what it's crazy to think about yeah people are like are you running out of material I'm like me and Liz could talk end to end like for about 60 years and not run out of shit to talk about but we are going to be having guests soon yes we're starting to think about that I mean we've been thinking about it all along we've we've always our intention was always to have guests on the show but uh no one anticipated that covid was going to be happening this long yeah so we're getting the technology in place to safely have um guests on the show

and i'm really excited for that me too i think it'll be a lot of fun to have um because you and i are so aligned in a lot of our views yeah that it's going to be really exciting and interesting to have um people with other views and like they will have expertise in other areas that we might not know much about and it's just gonna be really exciting and I also can't believe that we're just like at 30 episodes I know I know we've come so far I know it's crazy to look back on our first few episodes because they it feels like a different podcast oh absolutely and it's again we said this a couple of episodes ago but it it was genuine like we weren't putting on a show and so it's been interesting seeing how much we've kind of grown as individuals like I don't know about you

but I would get like pretty drunk when we were I was yeah I don't remember recording episode three and I did it the next day episode three that was chaos it was chaos because you were I feel like you were pretty drunk yeah and I was on truth yeah that was that was a that was a wild ride i don't even remember what did we talk about dating apps i have no no we talked about dating apps episode two anyway go go back and listen to episode three fun fact we were both so we're a lot we're a lot more sober now and i also think we're a lot more and not not like i don't think we ever had a problem it was just also at that point we were so anxious yeah we were so nervous about recording well we were so nervous about putting so much of our personal lives on display i wonder

if we can find the texts that we sent each other when we released our first episode that would be cute to find because we were both freaking the fuck out we get our very first episode we share so much intimate stuff about ourselves that we have never shared especially publicly and we knew long term that this was going to have some kind of impact on us like it was going to impact our dating lives it was going to impact like how like the amount of information that other people have about us and like we're talking so openly about our experiences that the people that we're talking about that are in these experiences are going to hear it yeah and it just it raises a lot of like questions for you you're like okay i'm not trying to hurt anyone but what if i accidentally do yeah

and what if this hurts me in the future so it's just like yeah there was like there were like series of breakdowns I think when we were like realizing all of that because it came kind of cascading it was like oh my god like this could have implications like oh my and like the implications hit like one by one like what if I can't get a job in the future like what if like an ex hears this what if somebody doesn't want to date like it was like a like a wave of shit but then like it was kind of a cool experience I think for both of us too to recognize like we're freaking out but then remembering why we were doing this in the first place of it like trying to do our tiny little part in normalizing just like women speaking openly about sex casually

um like that was a pretty cool fucking feeling like setting it live and being like fuck like this is out in the open now like and then even like before that when I had um gone on vacation with a like my little group of travel girls I remember we started talking about like when did you figure out how to masturbate and like the conversation we had was so honest and funny and I was like I wish I could talk to all of my friends about that why haven't I had this conversation with more friends like we so openly accept like boys masturbate they just know how to do it and then like I didn't figure it out until I was 17 and then all of these other people all these other girls I knew had it figured out way before me and I was like holy shit I want to talk

to more people about yeah so I was kind of like my first experience of like why aren't we like just talking about stuff like this like what why is it 2021 and it still feels taboo to talk about sex because we also like there are women who are trying to like change the way we talk about sex but then they talk about sex the same way men talk about sex in that it reflects like internalized misogyny well i'm just like so happy that we've kept doing this i think that it is such a stereotype for people to start a podcast and do it for like five episodes and then leave and i don't feel like we've lost any sort of steam with it I feel like we're more inspired than ever to keep doing it and it's so interesting to see how we've changed yeah in 30 episodes we have like a time capsule

kind of it's yeah I definitely think that we're a little more serious now yeah I think but I don't think that's bad I think that it's honest I think even though we were being genuine in the beginning we felt such a pressure to be on but when we say that we love hearing from you I feel like I need to get it tattooed on my forehead we love hearing from you I love hearing from you like seriously though because like it this podcast I think like necessitates a dialogue a bit and like we're missing that again by not having guests and so it's important to us that we hear from you on opinions or thoughts that you're having or things you want to hear if you have any ideas for guests that you want us to talk to like tell us all of that we love that shit like it's I'll say it until

i go blue in the face if you if you guys let us know something you want us to talk about guaranteed we will talk about it yeah and we're gonna start having guests uh so it'll be even more fun when we have a guest thank you for listening if you're listening on apple podcast please throw us a rating the little reviews that people write are so nice and we got a one star which means we've finally made it that's the sign the haters we love the fans we don't want to brag but we got a one star review it was probably your ex oh yeah probably probably anyway it was it was either my ex or someone i pissed off on twitter maybe it was um french press he finally threw us through us a rating maybe he might have he's like you guys didn't talk about me after that

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