The Hoely Hour - E41 Bring Your Own Vibrator

Episode Date: May 28, 2021

Do you grunt at the gym like a cave man? Let's talk about baby names. Were you named something completely normal and still teased by little asshole children? The girls answer listener questions! What are some go-to sex positions, and when is a good time to tell someone that you haven't been ~intimate~ in a while? Also, some lady gives her employees a masturbation break at work and we have some questions... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hi, Snookons! Come here! Yes, we hear you. What's your deal? Welcome to the Holy Hour. I'm Amelia Sampson and I'm Liz Ball. I feel like our intro to me is like how fart jokes are to you. Like I can't help but laugh. It's like giggling in church. Yeah yeah it's like we have to be serious for a second. Giggling in church that's on theme. Before you came over I was working out obviously I went to one of my workout classes and there was one guy

in the class and I have a pet peeve where like I just hate hearing men at the gym yeah and they're like oh yeah oh oh and he it sounded like he was in labor and he did it for almost the entire class and he was right next to me and I was like this is he wants to be perceived so annoying I'm like do they know that they're doing it oh my god of course it's like i understand like you're lifting heavy but like not everybody needs to hear it and also like i'm going all out i'm going balls to the wall and you don't hear me right we're gonna get so many emails from weightlifters that are like you know it really helps sure it doesn't mean that we don't want to hear it it doesn't mean that we want to hear it like i if i make any if i make any noise it's me whispering

fuck god damn it jesus fucking christ i would love to hear that from men at the gym so different from the grunts the grunts are really it's like god i hate this but i like how i look you know what i think it is about the grunting at the gym though is that it's paired with so many other like peacocking behaviors like the like checking yourself out in the mirror and like obviously trying to lift heavier than the guy next to you not every guy at the gym does this this guy's very nice I feel like he was not aware of how much noise he was making see that's different yeah but it still pissed me the fuck off yeah yeah just like especially when you're trying to like focus and be present in the workout and it's like that's the shit that really got to

me settle down before I started Adderall if there was anybody around me like if somebody was like tapping their foot across the office I was like get me the fuck out of here like I couldn't I couldn't think about anything else so i feel like with like people grunting in the gym it would really i throw me way off this is why i usually wear headphones if it's like an open gym situation but like the music was blasting and he was still like giving birth to his muscle baby i was like please stop congratulations on your muscle baby muscle man i hope you two are very happy what should he name his muscle baby thor baby thor there are people that name their kids thor isn't that hilarious

that's a hate crime i don't know how but it's a little baby thor oh my god crime against humanity if anybody introduced their baby to me and it was thor this is baby thor like um i lost a bet with my husband that's really the only reason that i could think of anybody naming their child thor i will say thor is a pretty great character in the avengers but but a baby just name him chris yeah chris pay homage that way yeah name it chris hemsworth yeah and then whatever your last name is his first name is Chris Hemsworth yeah and it's not ch we're calling him Chris Hemsworth Chris Hemsworth and if anybody tries to call him Chris no Chris Hemsworth Samson wait but you should marry Chris Hemsworth so then Hemsworth given the longest name ever Chris Hemsworth

Hemsworth the second Chris Hemsworth Hemsworth yeah or would it be Chris Hemsworth the second hemsworth samson the second samson the first i'll throw the first at the end of his name just to just really fuck with him put my name somewhere in there chris hemsworth chris hemsworth elizabeth the first hemsworth samson the first and hopefully the last the first is in there twice chris hemsworth the first elizabeth hemsworth samson the first phd for sure yeah and then he'll write a book my antagonizing parents we have to we have to really haze them like straight out of the womb or they're never

gonna learn oh my god i saw i saw an am i the asshole story a long time ago about this this man's sister was going to name their unborn son hitler because they knew he would have to overcome challenges with that name and like stigmas as if the world isn't going to challenge this poor child enough and I was just like it's not your job to like make sure your child grows up with adversity like not even Adolf you're gonna give him the last name maybe it was Adolf that's still shitty that is still horrible yeah okay it was Adolf sorry I wonder if anybody's named their kid Adolf since Hitler I'm sure that I'm sure that there are Adolfs like Rome in the world yeah that's awful but yeah so that was her intention and i was just like okay i get it you

want your kid to be understanding of what like prejudice is but like you can teach them i was just about to say you don't have to teach them through a lesson like of their own personal experience right yeah she's like oh i'm going to be raising a white man and i want him to have a hard time I I don't know I had a teacher like you can just raise them to be a good person right yeah I'm not named Adolf and I I can empathize with people yeah no name Adolf it can be done I had a teacher in high school who had a niece who was blonde hair blue eyes and they named her arian like what yeah like the like hitler dream arian is that why well she was blonde pair blue eyes i'm like why arian is a that that is that's not even a name were

were they white supremacists perhaps arian like there's not there's no bouncing back from that i feel like you have to go by like ari or something yeah or just like liberate yourself move out of the house at 14 and change your name arian anyway i'm like really hyper aware of like scarring my children with whatever name i give them because kids are so mean like even the name i've had some friends come up with like very normal names like olivia and then be like well i don't want them to be called olive i don't want people to call them olive i'm like i think all is a cute name but people are why would they call them that i don't know i don't know but people are always like well i have to think about like every angle of this like does the name rhyme with

something that they can get tormented about did anyone ever make fun of your name people call i was a little um what i would say big boned in middle school and people would call me hamelia like ham that's so mean that was a good one um people were always calling me amelia bedelia like it was like an insult i'm like those books rock yeah they're the best books she was a she was a boss i don't say what you what you will about amelia b and you know what that book it exposes a lot of classism problems so fuck you we were learning about classism at a young age yeah go fuck yourself i'm thinking of like there's probably other names that kids would call me but hamelia hamelia was like the number one what about you i mean my last name's ball so oh

what would people say elizabeth balls liz balls um just things along those someone once said elizabeth they're like ball like bald and then the older you get they're like balls ball sack my brother had it the worst because he's zach ball ball zach ball zach and then oh no it's just balls with a z if he has a his last name first initial um and my parents always joke that they were gonna name me crystal my name would be crystal ball but uh by the time i was like in eighth grade or something when people would be like like balls i was like wow i've never heard that you're so funny wow how'd you come up with that yeah i wish that was as clever as you and then uh kids are so fucking mean that's how liz ball so

hard came to be you really embraced it and i really love it i went liz balls to the wall hell yeah you did all the way i can't imagine myself with a different last name i don't even think of your last name as something like balls like i never just like i didn't even like think about that when i asked you you're an adult yeah but like i'm also not like i'm a child that's fair like I feel like I would have Liz Ball I'm Liz Ball kids are just so so mean if I pass a group of kids like the bullied child in me I'm 27 years old if I pass a group of like 12 year old girls I'm like they're gonna judge me be cool am I walking normal don't make eye contact don't look like you care like I'm still so I'm kids scare the hell out of me

run around a corner and start crying when they're out of the site call liz this group of 12 year old girls walked by me and did a once over of my outfit i'm twice the race i knew they were whispering about me i know that they were they were whispering about my straight leg jeans why don't they want to be my friend now i'm like super aware of being on tiktok with all the youth so i'm like i'm so uncool i don't know what anything means anymore i still don't know what a lot of stuff means no cap no clue i okay i realized i got to a point i realized this this weekend there was something that i was out of the loop on that i just did not understand oh someone i kept seeing mids people

kept saying like this is mid well oh yeah and then i was just like you know what i don't know what that means and i don't care i don't feel like i need to learn what it means i'm gonna let the kids be kids because i'm almost 30 so yeah i don't give a fuck what the youths are saying no somebody with their slang six i'm happy for them used mid all the time with me so i'm starting to realize well he is an act he behaves like a child so that makes sense he does but and also i've heard a lot recently about how all of these like tiktok trends and like all these sayings that kids are using are rooted in black culture yeah the like ice in my veins thing that kids are doing i don't i didn't understand that until i saw that tiktok you're talking about right now

like he was explaining um uh what is it AAV yeah it's like the the African American vernacular English and how like it becomes appropriated it's like a cool culture moment yeah so that was a lot to I thought that was really interesting to learn about yeah because sometimes you just don't know right you just see it like blow up yeah you're like oh that's funny and i get it right yeah i'm gonna use it because i'm in the loop yeah i am cool like the kids me a white woman me wow approaching her 30s i am so hip and in the loop ice in my veins yeah sheesh yeah i didn't no cap took my cap off I think you explained no cap to me I still don't really understand I explained it and I still don't really understand and I was like you know what yeah that's what that's when

I came to the conclusion I was like you know what I don't really care that I don't know yeah I'm gonna let the kids be kids yeah I just feel so uncool and like I really have always felt very uncool when I was a kid that should have been thanks Liz I think you're pretty cool too thanks thank you for accepting me I do go through those little phases like a couple times a week where I'm like god I'm actually like probably really bad at my job and no one likes me and um it doesn't matter if I find a new job because if I don't I'll get fired anyway that's an anxiety disorder oh it is fun and then i and then i tell my boyfriend i'm like hey um my anxiety goose is telling me that no one likes me and i'm bad at my job the anxiety goose i love it so much and then

he's like you know that's not true yes thank you you're right i just need to hear you say that that's the case wait i have another bit to go on a rant about um so my other bit is um i was thinking about this earlier i i fucking hate adults who don't drink water like i don't like water i don't like how it tastes like yeah that's the difference you are a grown adult it's water like i yeah i had a roommate in college that didn't like how water tasted and she was so it doesn't taste like anything no it doesn't and stop being a fucking baby about it it's what's the noise what annoys me about those people is that they're being like so unique and not liking water that that's the thing when people when people are just like i'm a little baby i don't

like water yeah you have to give me kool-aid yeah can i put the mio in the water i don't want it otherwise like it's just like it's to be the point when people don't like something just to be like a contrarian what a weird thing to be a contrarian about water yeah i'll be a contrarian about anything it's purposeful yeah your your body actually needs this just fucking drink the water nobody you know what go outside go for a little run and then you'll be very thirsty and then when you hit an ice cold glass of water after a brisk walk it is like an orgasm i truly believe if anybody feels the need to let you know that they don't like something that everybody likes or needs it's just for attention yeah it's like who who gives a fuck it's like oh believe it or

not i don't like game of thrones it's like okay you and a lot of other people like just you not liking it doesn't make you unique um I'm special I don't like Game of Thrones yeah I've like never seen an episode of Friends like okay a lot of people haven't shut up just because it's like a cultural moment doesn't mean like anything about like me and my David Dobrik videos except actually you it's good that you don't like me I don't like Friends yeah I don't know a lot of people don't yeah it is and I the thing is is I don't go marching around i mean i said it right now because we're talking about the friends but you're not like i have something to say excuse me um i know you guys are all talking about friends i hate that

that's another pet peeve i i don't like when people are like you're like talking about something that you liked or enjoyed and someone's like i hate that yeah i hate that thing that makes you happy like okay well you don't have to fucking don't contribute to the conversation then damn yeah take a coloring book and sit in the corner i don't care what you do just don't just shut up oh i hate coconut flavored things okay well good thing that it's mine and not yours i don't yeah right you're just trying to start conversation i'd prefer if you did it do you want a high five i regret you being here who invited you friendship revoked no you just go up to them you go up to them and you're like

who do you know here it's like what we've been friends for like 10 years what the fuck liz you invited me yeah what do you mean okay i know you have some things you need to discuss and i'm excited to hear about them oh my god i don't even know where to begin well something that wasn't on the list that i prepped you with is i have a date tomorrow you have a date okay it's a guy that i knew in college okay is this the guy you sent me a screenshot of yes today today i feel like he had a hat in this picture no like something something this what did it now i need to look at what you sent me oh i sent you a picture of a cat was that the one maybe i sent you a picture he's the one that like lost all the

weight i i know you've sent me a picture of the guy that you from college we text a lot i'm realizing yeah we really do oh okay yeah also i matched with this guy in hinge and then yeah that's the cat oh yeah this is actually a story i want to tell on the pod yeah so that's a different story that's actually not really a story but it's just like me being a and i wanted to talk about it but so this guy tomorrow is like so i've always thought he's cute and he was in a long-term relationship in college he got engaged after college they called off the engagement he like got his mental health in check lost all this weight and he's just like the nicest

person i've ever talked to love to see it but he is like saccharine like i think it's like a little he's so nice that it's like i it'll be interesting to see if he's that nice in person you know what i mean um and there's nothing wrong with being nice but whenever i haven't really like seen someone in a long time and they're like way over the top nice i think i've just talked to so many guys and then when i meet them in person i'm like you are nothing like you were on text they're like douchey yeah yeah i feel like you do have that experience all the time i was telling my boyfriend that like the guys you date remind me of jeremy from broad city and i know you haven't seen that show this is like the kind of guy that Amelia ends up going on dates with like they seem great

initially and then they do like they just like are always the fucking victim like somehow like flip the flip the scenario and they're not empathetic or understanding at all but then they put it on the other person yes it's really weird yeah but then they're like trying to be woke about it that was like the guy that fucking shamed me for not wanting he thought that me not wanting to have unprotected sex with him after he told me that he has herpes was me stigmatizing herpes but then and then he had the audacity to be like i have herpes but like didn't go get tested or anything yeah but made it my problem didn't do any of his own research like yeah and this is why when men are so kind and like understanding with me i'm like what's up or something what

hey i've been with my boyfriend for like eight months and he's been nothing but great and supportive he gives me hope and i still am like oh wait what yeah because we've been it's been proven to both of us over and over and over again that that's not how guys are valid right yes come here so whenever any guy like the guy that I'm going out with tomorrow is like so nice and like I've been so distant because I I you're being held dude I talked to you I talked to my mom and I talked to Katie that's basically the only three people that I text I hate texting so like he'll text me and I won't answer for like five days and so the other day I was like I'm so sorry it's not you I like cannot get back to anyone he wasn't like

he like responded right away usually guys will be like I'm also going to not respond for a few hours you know yeah and he was like completely understand I can see how busy you are like it's very it's really okay like just let me know when you're free that made me want to hang out with him I was like fuck okay so and he lives near me so we're just like going like two minutes from my house which is really nice I'm just I don't know I'm looking forward to it and it's low pressure because i already know him yeah so yeah i don't know it'll be fun i'm excited does he know about the podcast he must because he has me on social media so like i talk about it so much so i wonder if he's listened to it maybe hmm it'll be interesting to see how this goes i guess we'll

say we'll have some updates he has such a happy smile like he just seems like such a good dude i'm excited to see him um but so this guy that so i sent liz a picture of this cat today that's fucking beautiful but the reason that I sent it to her was because the cat was beautiful it was from the Instagram of a guy that I met on Hinge but there's a bit of a story because anybody that follows me on TikTok that's listening knows that I have been in this ongoing battle with Raya they will not accept me but one of my best friends Demeter got on Raya in literally two hours which um still pains me to my core he's that is sexist yeah well he's like very convinced that it's a pyramid scheme which is a whole other thing um but he I wanted to see

it I was like oh my god you're on Raya like let me see it so I was like scrolling through the app and the cool thing about Raya I looked at his also yeah yeah on Thanksgiving yeah I was like wait can i see what it looks like because because with raya you can see everyone every exactly so that's so i was looking at it and i could see all the guys in the area well and then like even looking at the women i was like is this a scam yeah because they just like their job is not yes it's like they don't have one they're like marketing or it's like something like very made up yeah yeah it's not even like a marketing coordinator it'll be like something like aesthetic curator oh yeah but there will be people that have the same job as me i'm like

fragrance uh specialist I don't know um celebrity fragrance smeller it's a very it's a strange app but it's beautiful I was going so I was going through it and I was looking at the guys in the area and this guy popped up and I was like I'm in love with him he was just gorgeous and attainable he didn't have like a like celeb job so I followed him on instagram he was a celebrity perfume sommelier no no i did follow that guy though i'm just kidding he was i think he's in marketing somewhere but i followed him he never followed me back somewhere so true we're all marketing ourselves at the end of the day if we're on dating apps we're all in marketing true we're all marketing ourselves all the time it's deep as fuck even in

our dreams so he never followed me back because of course he didn't um because who the fuck is this person don't mind me i just found you on raya which i don't have an account on like how am i gonna explain that explain that so i ended up matching with him on hinge nice like six months later and i'm the biggest idiot in the world and i was like i saw you on raya and followed you on instagram and he was like oh i didn't i didn't see you on there and i was like a weird it's but i was like oh strange i don't know i don't know how the app works i'm not on raya anymore i deleted it i'm such a fucking idiot and then that same day i posted a video about how raya won't accept me and he liked it immediately and now i have not heard from him he's like this

bitch is crazy like wow she is a so i need to tone it down on the sugar daddy chaser oh for sure i'll choose well i mean this reminds me of that time that you went to great lengths to find the guy on hot dudes reading and you almost told him and i was like do not do that that was before you and i really knew each other you're like don't yeah because i was like yeah like take a risk and i was like every single person your friends are bad friends don't do that you're like i'm gonna be honest don't i like sent liz the the text that i was wanting to send this guy that i had gone to great lengths to stalk and find i wrote out this text that took me like three days to type i was like convinced this man was my soulmate it was if you want to hear i think it was episode two

we talked it's texas if you want to go back and listen to that episode i talked in great lengths about texas who by the way ended up listening to the episode which is on our first episode of the new testament but he still talked to you after so it was fine he did and now he does not anymore but he moved r.i.p he moved and we we knew it wasn't gonna happen god so it's just so hot he's probably not listening now so i'll just say he was kind of boring he was kind of boring he was great until i facetimed him and i was like there's no that we just weren't compatible yeah did not communicate the same way but i would let him blow my back out in a fucking heartbeat that man is so hot so i set out i sent liz this text that i had been expertly crafting and i was like liz is going

to be my final line of defense because i trust her judgment and she texted me back literally right away and was like i'm gonna be honest do not send this well because i was thinking from my perspective like if a guy said that to me I'd be like are you gonna murder me right and it's different I think the other way around yeah you know and my dad said the same thing he was like if a woman if I was his age and a woman said this to me I would be flattered and and then I thought about it from my perspective I was like I would be scared and you said the same thing so I was like I don't know I just but anyway he listened to the episode if I don't want to receive it I'm not gonna put it out there you know but that's just me that's a good that's a good call me boring that's what they

call me boring liz i think that's the golden rule treat others the way you want to be treated the platinum rule is to treat others the way they want to be treated in that circumstance you don't really know that though no like you wouldn't know i've never heard the platinum rule i like that i learned that working at abercrombie in my training manual it's like we all know the golden rule and treat others the way you want to be treated but the platinum rule is to treat others the way they want to be treated because some people want you to talk quietly to them one-on-one and some people want to go to a fucking party with you and have a good time it's everyone's different i think people gotta meet them where they're at all of those rules too much of the

time yeah that's because people are only thinking about themselves but like bitches i mean all of that's how you're gonna survive you know if you're considering everyone else all the time life's about balance baby but like there's not a whole lot of people in my circle you know what I mean and like there aren't a lot of people in a lot of people's circles so I feel like it just doesn't take that much effort just to be kind that's I'm just kidding yeah or to just be like how are you right what do you need from me that is my favorite question to get what do you need for me i love getting that question because at the end of the day we are communal creatures like we like our biology is to exist in a community and there are people that are always like i'm just

looking out for number i don't know if i'm gonna take care of myself i'm just like be nice at least at the very least yeah it's just wild to me that some people are so awful and to themselves constantly and i mean like there's there's exceptions where they're like depressed or like going through something and i'm not talking about that but people that are just like i don't like to talk about anyone it's like yes you do you must because our intuition is to be in a community like right now i'm thinking about the most inconsiderate person i've ever met and she seemed like clueless about how inconsiderate she was that's so that's confusing to me we did not get along at all yeah i believe it me and my group of friends did not like her or her group of friends

but we tolerated each other you can politely tolerate each other yeah and it doesn't need to be a big deal right keeping that arm's length but i will disclose right now i did not like her and i probably wouldn't still like her it's on the record yeah she's probably listening like i bet that's about me no i'm inconsiderate as fuck that's me i'm inconsiderate yeah the only thing i know about myself is i don't care about anyone else yeah that must be me one truth that i hold close to my heart okay so we're finally getting around to some dms from folks thank you for being patient with us um okay so this one i'm gonna read i'm gonna read it out what is this um first off i'm going to say that i've listened to you guys so much this week that my inner monologue

now has amelia's voice and i use as liz liz's speech patterns when i talk i'm interested to hear what my speech patterns are that sounds like the best combo yeah just like a liz amelia a monster in your head uh but i wanted to ask about sex positions like what are your favorites what feels best and do you have a go-to position for the first time you hook up with someone also what the fuck is up with really old men thinking they have to explain your own period to you my uncle literally tried to tell me i didn't need pads on our drive from iowa to texas because i don't bleed in the car anyways that's what i wanted to ask lmao love you guys so much well we love you love you so much for writing in i wish you could see my face hearing about

your uncle talking about your period it's just like what i have no words i would just hold it in the entire drive yeah can you just clench i just that reminds me i don't know like i hate how some dudes are like uh won't acknowledge any of anything about vaginas unless they're having sex with it yeah and then that like they do other things and they're part of my body it's part of me uh-huh it's not like its own thing and also women have been having periods forever so grow the fuck up anyways that's so straight i'm just trying to think i'm thinking has thanks weird uncle jerry i don't think a grown man has ever talked to me about my period really because it's weird it's very infantilizing for an old man to be like i know more about your

period than you do have you gotten a period yet it's like i am 27 years old i haven't i don't think any grown man's ever talked to me about my period i think probably no except for my gynecologist i don't really think that they should no they shouldn't that's that's to be like i know more about your period than you do i'd be like fucking no instant throat punch um but to the original question yeah uh like favorites what feels best go to first time so favorite and what feels best there is a position I don't know the name but on my stomach with like one leg like um bent up and one leg straight oh oh I know what you're saying not up like off the bed but just like kind of like like you're on your your stomach yeah you're on your

stomach and everything's flat but one leg is bent and the other one's straight is is does the bent leg do something extra it feels like he can get deeper oh and it doesn't hurt no it's phenomenal interesting great I highly recommend how do you feel about doggy I don't like doggy because it hurts my IUD like how my uterus is tilted I can feel my IUD every time I'm doing doggy yeah usually it hurts my cervix yeah that shit hurts you have to be pretty small for me to enjoy it in that way yeah but uh i always loved the view is nice but i can't do it i feel like the one that i was just describing it's really good to get yourself off when you're because it's like you're it's a good position to like get some clit action in you know do a little reach around and for him too he can if

he wants to so it's just all around great position i am also a fan of missionary missionary i saw a tweet some where someone was like it's not exciting but it hits yeah and it's true I really like when I'm having sex with somebody that I really like and we're in missionary because I'm a big eye contact person that's I think that's what I like about it too is like you can see them I think my favorite is and it's hard when they're tall my favorite is when like I'm laying down but like they're standing up and like the my bottom half is i don't know probably do yeah yeah yeah yeah um and then because you can get some like vibrator action you can see like legs on the shoulders see that hurts my cervix guys love that because or or like or if they like are holding

your legs like if you were in a little mom's class together or something like if you're like knees are bent and they're holding your ankles okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i i think i like that because i can see uh-huh um i'm comfortable they have good leverage yeah yeah yeah and then i can access uh yeah action with the vibrator uh-huh you know yeah the opportunities are endless they really are so i think like i think i like that one um i like the one i like being on my stomach yeah too yes or if i am doing doggy the only way i can do it and it doesn't hurt is if you're all the way down yeah yes all the way down but then uh like then you get a little queefy god the queefing is the worst in that position guys really love face down ass up and i

that hurts that hurts so fucking bad with my my cervix and my iud it's like oh my god it's like unbearable but luckily a lot of the guys that I've been sleeping with consistently have been very like in tune with what I'm not enjoying myself because I I will speak up when I'm like oh nope don't like that but they like always catch it before I have to say it which is great but it sucks because like I want to do whatever makes them feel good yeah you know but I also don't want to be in pain how do you feel about uh being on top I love being on top me too it's a fun place to start i feel like it's fun to start on top yeah yeah i also really like asking guys like can i ride you and they're like they're like yes it's like instant because i don't think a lot of

women like being on top at least a lot of women that i've talked to don't like being on top i like it but it's tiring it is it's so much harder to be on top than it is for guys to be on top it ain't much but it's honest work yeah seriously my knees are really like because guys like when you're on top and your feet are flat yeah like you're doing like a squat that shit is a fucking workout oh my god you look if you are a man who likes that try it yourself that shit fucking blows i'm not having like flashbacks i can last in that position maybe 30 seconds oh my god you know what music man likes that's like the exact same kind of pain is we're talking about the same position right yeah like yes it's like froggy yeah yeah yeah like why yes i don't know i don't

know but i think it's because they can go way deep so okay so music man likes this when he's sitting like this i feel like people that are listening can't hear it but we'll put it in a video yeah froggy this and then like me like kind of backward like this while he's that's straight of that's an actual literal workout yeah shit fucking hurts and then I'm trying to impress the guy because I'm like will you just propose already I'm tired I'm tired and I'm like this is great because he's like very in shape he like runs every day I get tired after like 15 seconds of that so I'm like I hurt for like a week after doing it yeah that shit's not easy no but I do it for him i love you no i'm just kidding no i'm not but yeah it's like that being on top is

it's a lot of work it's a fun place to start it's a lot of work and it is a lot of work if you're also like you know what i'm gonna do this beginning to end yeah i like when i'm on top and then he grabs you and then yes moves you i'm like oh my god you're so strong big strong man i know i'm on top but you're in control oh my god i have to make a mental note to tell my dad not to listen to this episode this is i would say this is the most sexual we've gotten in a while yeah yeah because i don't know we've been talking about smart girl stuff or something yeah like talking about other stuff yeah therapy and mental health this is this is misogynistic

and it just leads back to the patriarchy now like run that dick yeah i really like this question another part of her question that she asked was um first time like what position when you're having sex for the first time it really switches up for me it depends on if i'm drunk what my mood is my relationship with the guy because sometimes it's like if it's like a one and done like i'm not going to be here again kind of situation I'll just like really go like no foreplay go right into like freaky sex if it's somebody that I like it every single time starts out missionary yeah I feel like I always start missionary but also I think part of that is I typically go so long yeah between having sex

with people about like I'm like all right I know this is gonna be a little sore because I haven't done this in a while so yeah that's a good point let's start a little slow yeah missionary is the easiest entry point for sure do you have the issue of when you change position this happened a lot with my ex and actually it hasn't happened in a long time so now i'm thinking i just like wasn't turned on enough but seriously like changing positions and not being able to get back in yes because you dry it up a little bit yeah you're like yeah and we weren't using condoms because we were together for so long we weren't using condoms for a lot of the time so we didn't have any of the lube from the condoms but we would be doing one position and I would be like I thought

I would be very turned on by the like what was going on but then there was no you couldn't get back in I I would say some that has happened to me where I've been like into it so I think it's just like friction if you're yeah if you're using condoms like and there's no more lube or you said you weren't using condoms so there was no lube to begin with yeah i think that's normal i think it is too i'm a big fan of lube it helps you out a lot i just i'm always so aware like i don't want anybody that i'm having sex with to think that i'm not into it and guys don't people people that don't have vaginas or have never had a vagina don't understand the mechanics of it it's not like when they go soft you know it's like like you just kind of the friction kind of rubs it all

also what's going on in there is different yeah each week yeah even even each day depends on the cycle yeah depends on where like if i am about to start my period or have just gotten off of it i feel like i'm not it's like harder for me to like become moist yeah yeah i know a lot of people hate the word moist and that's why i said it moist yeah i just feel like i don't get as wet if if it's like around those times it makes sense it's nothing personal man no and also sometimes it can be more painful i recently was like i wonder if i have endometriosis it might be worth looking into yeah i bleed a lot and your cramps are pretty bad yeah uh yes you should get that checked out yeah you've had an iud before uh-huh you should get checked out no no i don't think so i think

if they're not looking for it they don't know ah but i don't know for sure huh just goes to show you can be 30 and not know anything about your own vagina so you know we don't really get taught anything about it no makes me mad every day and that's why we have this podcast welcome to the holy hour talk about vaginas all day um okay let's move to another one of your topics okay okay um i wanted to ask your opinion on how long you think a casual hookup situation can stay casual um so speaking from personal experience i have never been able to do that interesting i'm not able to casually hook up with anyone like and even when i was like when i finally was in a headspace where I was like yeah I could do that I ended up just falling in love with them

and dating them and I'm still dating them yeah that's fair but I just I've never really been able to do that and um like I I don't um sorry I'm trying to think of how to work like I I think I like admire people who can do that yeah but everyone's different so like that's just my experiences I haven't been able to like just be friends with someone that I'm hooking up with that's fair it really is it depends on you yourself and then it also depends on the person you're hooking up with yeah because I've been friends with people after I've hooked up with them where we're like hmm that wasn't let's never do that again and then yeah I forget I ever hooked up with them yeah I am in this space in my life where I just want to have casual hookups but

then like I keep getting emotionally invested in these people like after I've been hooking up with them for a while and it just feels like I'm trying to figure out like what the signs are that it's getting a little bit more serious in my head before it's too late because I never really realize things until it's too late I never realize that I'm on the verge of a breakdown until I'm breaking down I never realize I'm like I don't know like getting frustrated with something until I'm all the way frustrated and I'm having this experience with these hookups now where I'm like I don't know how to know when it's time for me to start like easing up on the gas because I get so invested and when I first wrote this question was like weeks ago but um when all

this stuff started with music man I should get some context about that actually that actually might be helpful to talk about so if you've been listening for a sec you've been hearing me talk about music man who has been just the best sex I've ever had and he is just a phenomenal human being huge fan and him and I have been in this kind of relationship where it's been agreed between the both of us that is just going to stay casual and we haven't talked about anything other than that and I've gotten feelings for him I did basically immediately and I and I always knew that i did and as so amelia has feelings for him and has not told him i haven't said anything it's been a year since we've been hooking up i've not told and it's because whenever i mention to him

that i'm like a fan of his or i like allude to anything and trust me guys i've told her she's told her to tell to tell him and she's been right and you know you can you can lead a horse to water you can't force it to drink every time i drive over to his place i'm like i'm going to tell him today i'm going to tell him today and then i get in front of him and he's such a force and he's so like like confident in how he moves and like he's so intense with his eye contact when you're talking to him that it's just like i just go like brain blank nothing in head and i just don't want to say anything anymore it's scary oh and i also just like it's overwhelming i don't want to lose him because he's just so great it is worse for you to continue doing this

than to not tell him I agree but it's gotten to the point where that's actually 100% the case because he said something to me last time I saw him so he's like been the whole time I've known him he's been very anti-relationship with anybody and last time I saw him he made some comment about like he could see him like if he meets someone that he wants to be in a relationship with he won't rule it out and I fully spiraled when I heard this I was like oh my god he's gonna get a girlfriend and i'm not gonna tell him how i feel about him and i haven't seen him for a month and a half since he told me this like little tidbit of info so i've been by the time this episode comes out you all have seen him yeah yeah so i i'm trying to figure out what this what the moment

is that i realized that i'm getting too into these guys music man is a different story because the first time i hung out with him was the first time ever that i felt like a guy is too good for me that i'm going out with ever i was like i don't ever think like this i usually feel like i'm on the same playing field as i want to bop you in the face for saying that i know but the second literally liz the second he walked up who could ever be too good for you and that's that does not exist i i typically agree and i still i still do but it's like the only way he would be too good for you if he was literally jesus if he was jesus christ and he abstained from sex it's so funny my dad i feel like your dad like yeah like this guy better be walking on that's

exactly right yeah he said my dad was like oh me and pete were like no no i'll believe it when i see it I just like there's something about it you're a dad call me daddy literally the second that he walked up to me like his energy when he walked up I was like oh no too good for me I was like he's not gonna he's not gonna hang out with me again and I'm very confident I think I'm I think I'm great but I I don't know so I he's a different instance because I've kind of always been obsessed with him but like i'm trying to recognize myself you've made a you put him on a pedestal in your head and i'm i'm sure he's great i'm sure he's as great as you're saying he is but i don't think he's as special as you're making him i agree i think that i've been talking him up

in my head because it's been safe too because he hasn't wanted a relationship and i've been pulling that apart in therapy too i'm like why what's your therapist say she's basically like I think that it's good that you're questioning things like you are um she she it's hard because I've talked to her I've said shit about him in the same breath that I've been like I don't know if I'm ever going to be monogamous ever again so she's like it's very clear that you're working through something so she helps me work through it but she hasn't really said anything in particular about it um what I have noticed is like when you are talking to someone you are always in control of the circumstance yeah and this is the only instance where you're not I'm completely out

control so I also think maybe part of it is like being enamored and like excited by like not having control over this that's a really good point um but it like triggers that like anxious feeling that is kind of addictive yes it feels good and awful I feel chaotic 100% of the time I texted Liz last week and I was like I have the sneaking suspicion I don't miss that at all it's the worst goddamn feeling and i hate feeling that way and i actively leave situations that make me feel like that i feel like when i would feel like that i feel like my like pupils would get giant yeah there's like something like pulsating in you and you're like i'm excited and i also feel like i'm dying yes you're like let's fucking go i will fight anyone it really brings out your fight or

flight and i've gotten really good now after going through that with my ex for way too fucking long that i can recognize now my therapist i've talked about this on the podcast my therapist has talked about halt with me if you feel anxious think about if you're hungry angry lonely or tired if you're any of those things you're probably not actually genuinely feeling the emotion as deeply as you think you are it's been a minute since we've talked about that that is amazing advice i forgot about that i love halt yeah i remember the first time you told me about it i was like huh i should address those things i always run through it in my head whenever i'm feeling extra anxious I'm like okay what's going on and if I'm not any of those four things I'm

like okay this is something I need to pay attention to if I'm any of those four things I'm like this is why I'm feeling that way with I like that your therapist does that for you and my therapist is like oh attachment I'm like totally different approaches I just want to go to bed okay sorry oh my god that's so funny and it's really funny hearing you debrief what your therapist talks to you about is like we have two totally different experiences in therapy therapists are so different from one another and i hate thinking how they're just they're also just people sometimes i'm like no she knows everything you're a god you're applying to neat i take her word as gospel i have no god she really is great it really i feel like we both have

therapists that we need to have yeah i agree if she if she got too chummy with me it would be problematic yeah yeah no kidding my therapist is so careful about being like friends with me which is totally different from our psychiatrist our our bestie who texts us i love her i saw this picture and it reminded me of you yes god she's just the best she's so amazing she's truly the best she talks about the podcast i'm pretty sure she listens she knows that we're in love with her good we're gonna change this podcast to be only about our psychiatrist it's a psychiatrist fan pod now yeah okay wait continue with the music man yeah i mean i could rant about this for literally five episodes so I'm gonna cut myself off there but the reason that I brought it up

was because I think that it's important for people to recognize in themselves when a situation is no longer serving them in the way that you're hoping that it does yeah and being able to pick up on like your like body reacting to things because our brains and our bodies are so intertwined if you start feeling like ill and like tired by a situation like there's a difference between like being like butterflies and like in love and feeling kind of nauseous sometimes and feeling like run down and like gross and like always worrying about it like that's not something that's serving you in a positive way anymore and I think it's too late a lot of the time by the time people realize yeah no I think that it's it's important for people to be able to like

pick up on these things for themselves yeah and it's a case by case basis too it's so hard when people are like maybe like a good indicator is like if it's like 11 11 and you're gonna make a wish and you're like i wish that this guy would like me or something leave that is such a good fucking ain't the one if you like your entire heart is like i wish that he would text me back or like I wish he liked me and told me like no and I also think that like even though I'm 29 like it's insane that like you can get to a point where something is triggered in you that you still kind of like feel like hopeless and stupid like that like you did when you were like 14 and had a crush on someone my god it's exhausting it's exhausting and it's fun until it isn't I remember

feeling that way as a teenager and I liked it and it was thrilling and then when I felt it again for like the very first time at age 28 I was like I hate this yeah I was like oh this is anxiety wow right yes yeah it shifts it goes from being exhilarating this is this is worse than my normal anxiety level yeah fucking hell that's so true I whenever I start to feel that actually happened today with sunset like I was starting to feel negative I was starting to feel stressed out about something that I shouldn't have felt stressed out about and going through it so much with my ex has made me so adverse to just like sitting with the feeling the second I start feeling shitty I just want to squash it yeah because well what's the fucking point of feeling

shitty I don't that fucks with my skin recently you and I had had a conversation where we talked about how like falling in love is kind of sad and no one really talks about that like there is part of it that is sad and you don't know why you're like I should be happy because I love this person so much and I'm so happy I have them in my life but it's because like I think the older you get like the more you depend on yourself and when you fall in love with someone you have to trust them and it's really hard to sacrifice like your independence to trust someone with your feelings and they're like the most delicate feelings that you can have for another person yes yeah so and you like lose this level of independence in that like you're just

inviting another person to handle your most sensitive feelings it's very vulnerable yeah it's a very vulnerable place and when you're not used to being vulnerable it's very very hard i want to understand the brain mechanisms of that because i know like i can explain you can partially okay well i was gonna say because like i know grief and your libido are very connected interesting when you're i didn't know that something there was a moment with my ex where somebody close to him died and he was crying and it was it was awful it was really sad but then he we had the craziest sex like right away and I was like so I googled it now and there's something your brain like the grief part of your brain and your libido part of your brain are like very connected interesting

so I'm wondering if there's like a and you say that you but there's maybe something related to that something about sadness and and falling in love what were you gonna say so I see a lot of avoidant attachment slander where they're like these people are toxic blah blah blah but as someone who is avoidant attached it is because I in so many of my relationships including my relationships with my parents I have been taught that my emotions are inconvenient for other people so my safe space is to experience them alone I feel the safest when I'm alone wow I can let my feelings out when I'm alone and I know I'm not gonna be punished for having them so that's profound and it it sucks and like I hate when I see people who are like avoidant attached people

are like toxic and like they don't actually love you and I was like excuse me I love people so much it hurts and then it hurts even more that I'm afraid to tell them um wow so like it's just safer to experience feelings when I'm alone and like it has been like pulling teeth re-teaching myself to have like healthy and open communication with my partner like it and he's amazing and it always goes well but it like it doesn't mean it's not hard it doesn't just go way because it's easy to talk to one person about it exactly totally wow that's interesting so I wonder if that's a universal experience of being sad when you fall in love or if that's if that's a product of your attachment style then I feel like with an anxious attachment like you're almost

waiting for like an argument to pop up because arguments can be a little thrilling like I hate I do not want an argument but for a long time I always was like the other shoe is gonna drop and I don't know when yeah that's our safe spaces to assume that something bad's gonna happen because you can protect yourself yeah from any potential fallout you're like well I knew this was gonna happen mm-hmm or you look for a way to make it happen yeah you're like you're like well I didn't talk about this thing because I knew this is how you would behave yeah but like you set it up that way yeah totally and like as i always say worrying puts you through it twice like i've had to get to a point where if i'm assuming that somebody's going to be shit to me

then i have to just talk myself out of it i'm like if they're going to be an asshole they're going to be an asshole but like there's no point in me like preparing for them to be because then if they don't if they aren't an asshole then i put myself through the stress for nothing and if they are an asshole then i had to live it twice yeah and like those are both scenarios that suck so like and it's so much easier said than done it's this is one of those things that's like it's had to be a muscle for me yeah I just have to keep repeating it to myself it sucks when you like yeah you have to practice it and then it becomes a habit and even then you have to continue to practice yeah like um my another cool thing my therapist talked to me about so my boyfriend hurt

my feelings for the first time ever over something stupid and I knew it was not like he did not hurt my feelings like the circumstance hurt my feelings and I was like why am I taking something so like trivial so personally and then I was able to kind of like dig through it and like realize why it had hurt my feelings and like it was not because he hurt my feelings and um I didn't like I was having a hard time telling him but I need I knew I needed to tell him my feelings were hurt because I was acting weird and uh I ended up explaining it to him and I was like you know I'm I'm over it now I just needed to like sort through it before I could tell you because I didn't understand and then um I struggled to tell him because I didn't want his feelings to be hurt

that he hurt mine you know I didn't want him to feel bad that I felt bad yeah and I was explaining that to my therapist and she's like i get that but like you can't protect that other person from experiencing feelings right you're not responsible for how they exactly and she's like by explaining how you felt like giving him the opportunity to like meet your needs and if you didn't give him that opportunity he wouldn't know what they are and i was like right you know you're right and you always are but it also in a sense devalues the importance of your emotions by worrying about how the other person's true and like when I tell him that like I told him I was like well I feel bad that you feel bad and he's like no yeah and I told him what my therapist said and he's like

that's a really good point and I was like he's really so great he really is let me read another yeah and then I'll do my thing back to have the week hi I love the podcast so much I'm a new listener so not caught up all the way sorry if this has been talked about before I just saw your story and wanted to ask anonymously your thoughts on my situation um it's a tad long I was in a serious relationship for around five years and we broke up about two years ago then I spent those two years getting my master's and totally focused on myself I started going on dating apps and stuff but with the pandemic and school and work it just wasn't happening all that to say I'm ready to start at least casually dating but I haven't so much as kissed a guy in two years let alone had

sex and I definitely want to but like when in talking to someone do you bring that up do you need to I feel nervous about intimacy again but generally thank you so much for doing this podcast and destigmatizing open conversation about sex it's so important thank you and so sweet that's really nice and also sorry we're getting to your question so late oh did she send it a long time ago yes I started from the bottom so they wouldn't disappear start from the bottom now right here yeah sorry but this is a great question yeah how do you get back into dating and even getting intimate I think if you want to disclose how long it's been that's your prerogative I don't think it's necessary I think a lot of people get caught up in the like how honest do I have to be it's

nobody's business your sex life is never anyone's business unless you want it to be which is funny coming from us because we're making our sex life everyone's business but we chose that like I think if you haven't had sex or kissed anyone in two years and it's not something that you feel personally is important you're concerned about it being important for other people don't tell them yeah you don't need to know that's a good point I hadn't thought of that because I was thinking in my experience um I probably wouldn't be like I haven't kissed anyone in two years but if it came to sex I would be like I haven't had sex in a long time just because I would want to be like this will be the most comfortable for me like in this position or um I'm just nervous because I

haven't had sex in a while yeah and that's a personal reason and I think that's totally valid to bring it up for that reason yeah never do anything for anyone else I I'm a big fan of like being a little vulnerable too because if you're it's so easy like early dating on like when you are first about to like hook up with someone for the first time it's like a little nerve-wracking um because you don't know anything like you don't know what they're like so that's something like I would share if we were like about to hook up I'd be like so it's been a while since I've had sex I'm a little nervous yeah and then I think just admitting that takes some of the nerves away but but like Amelia said if you're not comfortable doing that then don't yeah you don't need to

you don't need to impress anyone yeah ever no i realized your safety and comfortability are the most important things when i started dating after my eight-year relationship i was always like i battled with this a lot i'm like do i tell people that i'm freshly out of a relationship and i realized when i didn't it it allowed it to not have as much power it's like they don't know they don't need to know there's no reason that knowing would help them in any way so I'm not going to tell them and then like I would get a few dates in with them and then it would come up and they were like oh and when I saw that their reaction was like I didn't need to know this until now that that allowed me to feel empowered to just like exist as an individual that isn't tied to my

past like it doesn't need to be a thing unless you want it to be a thing yeah so like if it's really just like is it unfair if I don't tell them that I haven't kissed anyone in two years fuck that if anybody gets mad about something like that it's not something you should be dating yeah really really good question I think a lot of people struggle with this I've struggled with it I'm sure you have like it's I think that that's a universal thing if anyone's rude to me about anything that I share that's intimate like that I'm like next cool bye thank you next yeah speaking of which Ariana Grande got married I saw that I felt betrayed a little bit because you wanted to be taken along for the ride I just yeah I wanted to know yeah how dare she not invite us first of

all yeah Ari rude I call you we're on nickname basis yeah thank you next got me through my breakup so much of her music has gotten me through my breakup yeah she's great her her sweetener album came out right when I moved to Seattle so I have a special attachment to it i don't know what she says but i know she sings it well that whole album was phenomenal oh god i love her have you listened to the positions album she's great always bangers all right sex fact of the week sex fact of the week it's different every single week it's different um i want to sing it like that ariana grande song do it when sex fact of the week

get it get it get it get it wait y'all what about what does she say anyways weak weak okay all right somebody actually sent this to us liz did i i had no idea i found this and this was like somebody sent this to us and so this is kind of like a a sex fact and a listener message erica lust is hoping to normalize masturbation by allowing her 36 members of staff a half hour masturbation break every day and has even set up a private masturbation station in the office i love masturbation station lust decided to offer the break after noticing her staff were agitated and performing with less energy those two things during the pandemic so she launched the initiative to coincide with masturbation month which is may

fun fact but plans to allow staff to make the most of the extra 30 minute break for the rest of the year i feel strangely about this i don't like it if my boss i don't want to think about it like if my boss had any i don't i don't like that at all and i'm very masturbation positive but if my boss was like hey take 30 minutes to rub one out I'd be like please don't I feel like there's something like inherently sexist about that oh I was being like you're being rude like go get a vibrator like interesting get a dildo go get yeah you haven't had sex like um so I think we're agitated because we're in the middle of a pandemic Erica lust yeah I uh it seems unsanitary it's just also like do you want to masturbate where you know your co-workers are masturbating like I

don't want to think about anyone I'm working with like masturbating at work I feel like it's just like and also in the middle like when I'm thinking about it I'm like hmm I've never really like when we were in the office I was like I can't think of a single time where I'm like damn I wish I could like go yeah go rub one out in the bathroom i don't i it's when i'm at work i'm like oh god i just want this day to be over or yeah i'm focused on work i'm not if your staff's agitated it's not because they need to masturbate it just feels like because like we're obviously very sex positive yeah i'm trying to think of it in the terms of like what if there was like a break to like fuck a co-worker for 30 minutes it's inappropriate to have any yeah any sort of hand in what your

what your employees are doing in a sexual sense yeah it feels very out of pocket there's something violating about it and then and like why would that be the thing that you are gravitating towards like sure we're all probably jerking off at lunch for fun i've done it a few times who hasn't we're working from home why not you can got a slow day it's called uh what procrastination oh my god i love that procrastination yeah um but like in the like in an actual work setting i wouldn't be like wow i'm really horny right now but also like why would that be the thing you think about first like morale's low what do my employees need more money nope masturbation station i want to know what exists at the masturbation station i'd assume tissues do you

bring your own vibrator byov oh my god what if they have what if they have like vibrators with like little like sanitary socks on them that's not what is it what is her company does it it's called it's eric it has her name in it it's like a consultation for him i think hold on let me pull it back up i have it the company is called erica lust films it's a film company that tracks film people are weird it's coming from a film person um who is oh oh the head of communications and content said a masturbation break at work can result in more focus from your employees less aggression more productivity and better teamwork i don't think that that's true like i mean there might be science behind it but like after i masturbate oh she's an erotic film director

that makes a lot of sense because the people that work very different that changes everything that we've said yeah but but in in the sense of her trying to normalize masturbating at work like as kind of a blanket thing of like you should consider this for your employees as well because it's working for mine it doesn't translate past like adult films yeah but her being an adult film director well they were probably all masturbating at work anyway would jerking off like i have a lot of questions is this in the office is this on set because i would think that if you're jerking off on set and it's not part of the film wouldn't it be hard to like film those scenes i don't know I don't know a lot about filming porn and the and things like staying hard and lube and

I don't I just don't experience sexual frustration like I don't feel pent up I think I probably masturbate enough that I don't ever need to feel sexual frustration but like be having it I can't imagine having that interfere with my job to the point of where I need my boss to like establish time in the day for me to do that yeah and even if i was a an adult filmmaker i would feel weird about my boss being like go it's your masturbation break i'd be like i don't want them to know that i'm stepping off to masturbate yeah still even to this day i don't tell anybody when i'm masturbating no that's a that's wait what it's a solo project when would you tell someone that sometimes guys i'm talking to like one oh and i feel uncomfy about no this is my thing yeah like

this is just for me thank you but i mean so i said that recording the sunset so that was a different scenario but like normally i'm like i just don't i don't know there's something very weird about opening up about masturbation and i think because it's always been such a personal thing it's just always that's what it is yeah like private i don't masturbate so guys can sexualize me masturbating no it's a me thing yeah it's special liz time yeah yeah no one else needs to be a part of my masturbation you don't need that info except my imagination and maybe porn if i can't think of something interesting enough or remember a porn i've seen that i liked that's real yeah where you just replay it in your head a little bit that's so true you're like

remember that just tap into that memory you know what i've thought okay we're i feel like we could talk about this for forever but i've noticed about porn like something that is very hot to me one day that like can get me off oh yeah then later on you're like why did i like that yeah i was gonna i was just about to ask you have you ever masturbated to a memory yes i feel like that's kind of orgasm most of mine is I it is a different orgasm masturbating to porn than masturbating to a memory like there's something so different it hits different to like be like I don't know put yourself back in a scenario the best would that be weird with that like if you were dating someone and they were masturbating to a memory of fucking someone else I feel like that's normal like it's

natural if you're just like horny and masturbating but it would still hurt my feelings and I wouldn't want to hear about it I wouldn't want to hear about it for sure I think it would be normal what would hurt my feelings and I know that this is kind of kind of ignorant to think that it's not a thing is thinking about someone else during sex because somebody told me that when you're doing doggy without fail every time the guy is thinking about somebody else that's fucked up and also not it's a lie but since i heard it i'm like there's something in you that hyper aware of it yeah interesting and i and i it's i'm sure it's the case for some people but like not everybody it's this with everything it's never the case for everybody but i'm always like when i think

about masturbating it's like whatever you need to do to like get you there i don't fucking care think about like anybody unless it's somebody that i'm like unless you're cheating bitch i don't like yeah yeah think about anybody that her I mean if if there are obviously exceptions to that but like during sex I just it's like no no am I not doing it enough for you that you can't like be in the moment yeah that's when I don't have an issue I will say when I was having sex with shoe man out of obligation I was never thinking about him and that is I was never in the moment if you need to be thinking about somebody else you shouldn't be having sex with that person you should not be in a relationship with them at all point blank period yeah that's that is a good

indicator it does i also think this is a good place to end i feel like this is a topic that i could really dive into for forever we should end here i i hope that this uh us discussing these conversations makes you get into a fight with your partner yeah you're welcome hey hey what do you think about when you master are you thinking about someone else when you do doggy what the fuck where is this coming from are you pretending i'm olivia munn oh we love a full circle okay thank you for listening um email us on holy hour podcast at gmail.com now we have proof that we are reading it uh-huh look at us go um those were from instagram dms which thank you for that segue lives at the holy hour on instagram twitter and

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