The Hoely Hour - E69 Dirty Little Pig Boy

Episode Date: January 14, 2022

It's episode 69! NICE. Liz admits to making Sims porn over the break and using it like a sports play-by-play. Amelia shares a DOOZY of a cheating story and the two discuss their secrets to taking the best nudes and thirst traps (thanks TikTok!). Also... did Moscow LIE about having a girlfriend? 👀 This is just the tip of the iceberg to all the hot topics this week on The Hoely Hour. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Initial plan term only. Greater than 50 gigabytes. May slow when network is busy. C-terms. Oh, can we hold hands? I'm so excited. Yes, me too. Okay. One, two, three. welcome to the holy hour i'm amelia samson and i'm liz ball we're back happy new year yeah because we didn't we have this is our first one in the new year and episode 69 nice this is my favorite number uh i we are so excited to be back like yeah we were thinking about it for weeks yes we kept texting each other like we have to talk about this we have to talk about this yeah because we actually even though uh we only took one week off from releasing an episode we had recorded in advance so we've been we haven't recorded in a few weeks yeah almost a month now

i miss you too the holidays felt like an eternity they were very long you were not like you were on an adventure you were across the globe i it was very scary was it oh just with like omicron yeah well and like i know if i get omicron or any if i get covid i will likely be fine right uh but that's not my concern like yes i don't want to get anyone else sick and i also was like selfish if i am stuck somewhere i can't come home yeah that's gonna suck ass but like all of these flights have been getting canceled because of like the airline employees have been getting sick it's just this is wild i read today that they're expecting half of europe to get infected in the next eight weeks um i read that they're saying office air uh cove cove office air kills

covid in the first five minutes and then people are like are you fucking kidding me yeah the cdc is like yeah you just want us to go back to work who sponsored this study what is office air farts and like microwave salmon yeah it kills covid and just you and all of your hopes right your morale yeah it kills morale especially the salmon the the old fish in the microwave oh my god i really do not miss the office no at all i miss socializing we haven't socializing with the whole time we've been doing this podcast we have been working from home isn't that wild yeah we started this in june it is actually insane i have literally not been to the any office at all so i downloaded sims as many of you know i got sims for christmas thank you mr liz um what an elite present it's

sims 4 well because i've joked about it and it was like on super sale on steam so he was like i'm gonna buy you sims for christmas and i was like you are not gonna see me until 2023 is it the so is steam where you download games yeah steam you can download games from oh i should buy it if it's still on super super sale i should buy it sims 4 i miss the sims so i got all wrapped up downloading custom content fuck yeah including a um like sex modification what so that's been kind of fun to mess around with um you can like make settings like um like the set like you know how when you like woohoo as sims it's like you're under the covers it's boring yeah this removes all of that love that it is very graphic i was like i was like this is really fun and funny but also

now i feel weird like i'm one of those weird people like watching porn but as like a video game you're like that's like a weird form of voyeurism yeah i well no i made me and mr liz on sims your sim looks just like you thank you you did a good job i to make you feel better i had a cheat for the first sims that would take the covers off of the bed during sex and it would take the blur off of the sims in the shower that's weird like you have a you have a modification that is supposed to exist no the modification you download like it's not even hosted through sims you download it separately it's way worse and you can change this setting to make your sims like cum sluts there's a cum slut setting so it means you respond enthusiastically to cum

or you can make them cum repulsed so they don't they think it's gross and like it ruins their mood but they have you can like you can like decide like and it also kind of like the download also It comes with, like, stripper poles and, like, these signs that prompt, like, the Sims to, like, want to be naked. I don't have a ton of experience with it. It's called Wicked Whims if you're a fucking weirdo like me. So, and I asked Mr. Liz, I was like, wait, is it weird that I downloaded this? Because I want it to be a little bit like real life. Like, I downloaded all of this custom content for decorating my home, which, as you know, is important.

Yeah, I mean, yeah. I'm like, you know what? I want to practice decorating a mansion that I'll never have. no i actually don't even want a mansion i don't even want one yeah um okay i know i can't afford one but i didn't want one to begin with um so i was like is it wait do you think it's like weird and he's like i actually think it's like kind of hot and i was like okay nice so you know like most couples not most couples some couples will watch porn to get in the mood y'all will just watch your sims having sex yeah we just decide what we want what we're gonna recreate later

we do like a like a gameplay like a like you know how like sports commentators are like drawing on the screen yeah yep and you'll go here and then you do like slow-mo replays oh just espn and the s is for sex so that's what i've been up to wow that's great i've only been playing candy crush i want us i want to twitch stream us playing sims uh-huh that'll take a while and me playing candy crush yeah i feel like this could be i've spent so much time doing it anyway subscribe to my i didn't know i had no idea you played candy crush i'm on level like 3400 i was playing stardew valley on the plane and a guy wearing a twitch shirt stopped to like on his way back from the bathroom and he's

like is that stardew valley that's so cool wow mr liz like so we were flying back from um his hometown and um he i love him but we don't need to sit right next to each other because neither of us want to sit in the middle oh yeah i'm a window person he's an aisle person because he's tall i was about to say his long legs out his legs um so now i compromised by booking us both in the aisle so we can hold hands across the aisle i really love that my parents do that sometimes too what that's so sweet they're like i love you but it's fine if we're not immediately next to each other plus we had just spent a bunch of time together but the other thing i wanted to tell you is did you know that putting an orange in the freezer for like 30

minutes makes it so fucking tasty i saw your tweet oh my god i was like i had heard someone mention it they were like oh yeah you should like put an orange in the freezer I think it was um one of Mr. Liz's friends like a long time ago he's like yeah it's like really refreshing and then I don't know what motivated me to be like yeah I'm gonna try that did you it's still in the skin or do you peel it and I had I put it in there while it still had the skin on okay like 30 minutes 45 minutes and then you take it out and peel it and it's just like dessert i don't know it's so like sweet and refreshing and it's like a little frozen try it one of the only people that i still talk to from college he was in town for the holidays

and we were drinking and he told me this story that he was he could have sworn he had told me and there's no way i would have ever fucking forgotten this story but after he told me he's like you could tell us on the podcast hell yeah i was like oh i was going to ask you if i could so i have his permission to tell this but i'm not going to tell it as good as he did because he was there but um he was dating this girl all through high school or for most of high school and they were dating freshman year of college when i first met him um and then they went to a watershed festival at the gorge and they were fighting a lot and she was just like being awful and she ended up like doing this like dramatic exit after one of their fights and like

getting in the back of a pickup truck of like some guys that she did not know and just like leaving with them what the fuck yeah on the campground and he was like okay bye like fuck you um this is a really short story how he was telling it was so fucking good later on in the day they were um at one of the the sets at the main stage and he was just like in the back with one of his friends and on the jumbotron the camera panned into the audience and he saw her making out with one of the

dudes that had left with her. In the pickup truck? In the pickup truck on the jumbotron. Is this a country song? Yeah. No it sounds like it but that's how he found out that she was cheating on the jumbotron at this music festival. Can you

imagine anything worse than finding out that way? I would have taken a picture and been like find a ride home yeah well so then they had to drive home together she was driving him home and i was like you couldn't find a different yeah and so he like she was driving him home she pulled up he got into his car and then they did not say a single word to each other the whole way home and then they they were done yeah so that was freshman year of college and she was just hitting him up like a month ago being like i missed you fucking college thing to happen i know can you fucking

stand it can you imagine audacity to be like and his friend was like is that her and he was like yep wait what did does he did he remember like what band it was or he told me it was someone like Garth Brooks it was like some like big name oh god I don't know someone that like I recognize the name he needs to write into this singer or band he needs to let them know yeah like you were instrumental you are a core memory of mine now I'll never listen to your music again but during this song that you were performing at this festival i saw my girlfriend cheating on me it's poetic it's like that really is a country song and then it was at a country music festival and it's just like what the like if i i can't imagine that kind of pain they had been dating

for like years and then here she is cheating in front of 50 000 people well just i wonder how he how did he respond to her did he ever confront her he must have they had to have had a conversation about it because like they broke up broke up and they were together for like years and years so it had to have been a conversation but he said he was just like numb when he saw it he was just like yep that's her but i guess like how else would you respond you know it's it's so unbelievable like there is your girlfriend cheating on you in on a big screen i would lose my shit i would i would i would black out it i don't know oh i have a tip oh this is like okay so i wrote down this this uh tiktokers handle great because i took the tip from her um she's a boudoir photographer

her handle is the caitlyn scott so the k-a-t-e-l-y-n-s-c-o-t-t the caitlyn scott beautiful um one of her like tips was if you are gonna take like a sexy picture um you use video instead so she shows how to like lock the screen and change the brightness and whatever and then you do a video and then you go like just screen like frame by frame so I did that last night fuck yeah that's how I take my that's how I take my thirst traps is that way they're so good are you happy with them oh absolutely so fuck yes to go even more into this story i um recently bought some lingerie from honey burdette i've never heard of that um i was get i started getting ads from them and then i like followed them and like i just have been keeping an eye on their stuff to see if there's

anything i really like because some of their stuff is a little kinky love that um so they had a fat sale around Christmas and I was like I'll check it out and see what I can find and the deal was too good for me to pass up so I bought a bodysuit and then I bought a two-piece set I'll show them to you too they're great to see them um and I was like whatever I don't like you don't know how like something's gonna fit you especially something like lingerie um because our bodies are all so different you know unfortunately and fortunately they both fit great so I spent I spent like 200 bucks and um how often do you buy lingerie though you know it's like more often than most probably okay well like I haven't bought lingerie in years and years and years so it's like when you find

like a good piece well and I've learned because they've had something that I like I loved it and I was just like eyeballing it and then it sold out so fast and like they never made it again and I constantly regretted not buying it so I was like I'm just gonna like if they have this great sale I'm gonna buy it anyways um Mr. Liz and I were getting a little spicy last night and uh he was like why don't you like because I haven't shown it to him yet and he's like why don't you model some of it for me if you want so I was like I'm gonna try this video tip because it was like right before bed I already don't have makeup on and then I tried taking pictures and I just felt really awkward so then I was like I'm gonna do this like I'm gonna try this video thing and

it's so much easier when you're like dynamically moving and then I ended up also like making some of them into short clips that was fun too that's my favorite thing to do that's my pin video on my twitter is me doing that exact thing so you get natural poses out of it exactly you need to do it i can't believe that you also already knew that the that tip i don't remember who told me it one of my friends told me about it it was like oh it's the oh no it wasn't one of my friends it was this girl that was it was this girl that was on are you the one her name was kenya and i'm fucking obsessed with her she's perfect in every way and she was saying that she'll because her thirst traps are like like she's just such a natural but it's because she's just when you're moving

exactly it's like you're not so aware of that like i don't know there's something very empowering into your you're a little more into yourself like the the pictures i was taking like while i or just the videos i the video i was taking while i was moving like you you aren't just kind of like stuck trying to like pose in a certain way um yeah you just and it like it boosted my confidence i was like oh i am like kind of hot good for me like oh yeah because i always think you know trying to pose for these like pictures that you feel awkward and then when you're moving you feel more human and like when you're like looking back at it and like taking screenshots of like what's good you're like wow i look hot when i'm moving just like in the world yeah yeah yeah you know

what's so funny is when i'm putting together the clips from those videos i always go to our sex playlist which reminds me that we have a sex playlist just type in the holy hour same spell the same way and you'll see it it's a great playlist but i'll always like listen through it i'm like what vibe am i feeling and then i'll just take one of those songs and use it as the background for like my thirst trap videos highly recommend you know what i'm also gonna recommend um i have a subspace playlist oh my god that's right i i removed it from i like removed me mentioning it from a previous podcast because i think i removed like part of the conversation that makes sense or something uh i have a subspace playlist um also recommend that

um and like the the holy hour playlist is like under me as a creator oh so you can still find my subspace playlist yeah just click click her name i was thinking on the way over here a tip about the benefits of top i'm gonna say the tip after i tell the story so it'll make more sense i am i don't know what you're gonna say i know i know so i haven't talked about this yet yeah it was a few months ago um when i hooked up with my co-worker my old co-worker when we were just like friends for a while and then like we ended up having sex um he he listens to the podcast which is probably why i didn't talk about it honestly it's not like i was like hiding it i was just kind of like i don't know anyway um we were like strictly platonic there was never really any sort

of like sexual tension or anything we just like hang out and like whatever we were really comfortable with each other and then there was one night when we were both single at the same time which had not happened and we were out getting drinks and dinner and we just had this like really open honest conversation about sex and like what makes sex good for us and like what's been like bad sex and what made it bad and like all we were just like being really open he's the one that put me on to come as you are originally oh thank you i don't ever shut the fuck up about that book so i have you to thank god you and my therapist and he read it so that he would be a better partner in bed i know i love that he's he's a quality dude whoever he ends up with is really

lucky he is a good guy no matter who reads it you will become a better partner in bed because of it A hundred percent. Yeah. But he, him and I, we went to dinner and we got drinks. We were just like talking really openly about sex and not in like a way that felt suggestive at all. We were just like talking about it. And we went back to my apartment just because we were like not done talking. And there was a lull in conversation and he was like, would it be weird if I kissed you right now? Because we had never had that kind of exchange. And I was like, no. And we started making out and we had sex very quickly, very little foreplay. It was just like it happened and it was phenomenal some of the best i was gonna say isn't that like the closest you've

gotten to kind of like a dom experience yeah yeah except he's like true dom very switchy yeah yeah which i think is interesting he tested as a his 100 he had 100 rope bunny on his bdsm quiz i know but then he also had 100 rigor so like he just is under rope yep and tying up he is indeed he i really but my tip is having a an explicit conversation about what makes good sex before you have sex with someone obviously that's not the case for like every situation but it was so fucking good because we both knew what each of us wanted and what would get each of us off from the jump it was so and we were talking about like eye contact is like really important to me and he was like oh my god me too it's so weird when people don't make eye contact and then like

during sex we were just like locked in and it was like so it was like we had it didn't feel like it was the first time we were having sex because we had such open honest conversation about it and that was the first time i had done that yeah you also like had some history too so yeah you have kind of like a basis of already knowing each other a little bit totally but it is a total game changer to talk about sex in that kind of way before you even have it yeah I've never done that before it was well like with Mr. Liz like when we first met you and I already had this podcast yeah so he was already listening to it like understanding what I was interested in and then he was like that's me yeah it sounds like you'd be into this thing yeah he was like

um have you heard of this and I was like no tell me more and then he was like this is what I like to do and i was like i want that i remember you texted me right after that you were like what the fuck yeah my mind is blown i know i had to like it was like i had to process it for a few days like what had just happened i was like oh i didn't know like i knew sex could be fun i didn't know it could be this fun yeah yeah and that's good yeah so which is the perfect segue way for me to talk about the best orgasm I ever fucking had you and I haven't talked about this in person no I had the best orgasm I've ever had like two weeks ago and it like the sex was already really hot I think it's because um like I had just been like non-stop like going and going for

like while I was traveling like you know I had to see my parents and my brother and all of like I just had to see all these people and it's already so stressful one traveling to traveling during a COVID surge and three just like COVID yeah so all of that combined I was just not really thinking about like sex or masturbating or anything like it's just and I was working remotely there's a lot going on so then there was like a night that Mr. Liz and I were together and I was like do you like maybe want to have sex tonight and he was like i was gonna ask you the same thing hell yeah and then i think it was just kind of like the build-up like neither of we had both been so busy like and then um spending time together but like with other people so we hadn't

had time to like be alone yeah so it was just kind of the build-up of that but then the sex itself was really hot yeah and um like i didn't it it felt amazing and i always use like a little bullet vibrator do you guys you know yeah um and i didn't come from sex i almost did that's big yeah well like while we were having sex so um i'm not like oh see what you're saying okay yeah and it's it's has been harder with the lexapro like if i wasn't on lexapro probably would have come immediately um so it just takes a little more time than usual yeah and then um he like came first and then like he always takes care of me like we'll like snuggle for a couple minutes and then um he also asks because sometimes i say no yeah sometimes i'm like you know what no i feel like very satisfied

and like not even just fine like um like my brain is still really high so I'm like I'm like I don't need to like have an orgasm I don't think I can because I'm just so like yeah mentally deep in it that's the only way I can explain it and um so anyways he took care of me and I have been doing this thing where I just like will intentionally try and be in a position where I can make eye contact with him too i don't know it was just so fucking good being able to like look at your partner while you're coming it changes the game i also love watching when my partner's coming yes me too i love watching i'm like let me see what i'm doing to you right now you just it just is there's something so satisfying about it and then um like like being able to look at him and like

make eye contact and seeing like how much fun he's having that's so hot to me like the the idea that gets me off is knowing that he is also enjoying it like he's having so much fun doing it so that's super hot to me yep and then afterwards I was like my body was like shaking he was like I had to I like slumped over and then he was like um sorry to interrupt but he was like I think you should put your underwear on because you're kind of like dripping a lot damn oh my god and I was like sorry and then I was like trying to put my underwear on and I could like barely stand I had to like hold on to him and then um he was just like holding me and then he was like I love you so much and I was like I love you so much too and then I was like I just like feel so safe and like

I could be myself with you and then I was like I think I'm gonna start crying because I'm just so happy oh my god and I mean I can talk more about this like I have a really interesting sex fact of the week so it'll make yeah the crying makes sense a little bit okay it's just yeah just this overwhelming um like level of emotions like you know having this massive orgasm and then like just also like being with someone I like love and trust right then right um he was like I feel so seen with you and I was like oh I was like doesn't it feel so good and then he's like it really does and I was like I can't I can't with you too I truly truly can't it's we're honestly very annoying like no I love it if someone looked through our text it'd be like I love you so much no I love

you so much that reminded me I talked to Moscow again because I told you that I had talked to him and we had kind of like cleared the air whatever whatever and like I didn't really feel like the air needed to be cleared but yeah you did um i am still feeling like a little bit petty about like not thinking of this like girlfriend exists but this is gonna get to how i got to this conversation so um i asked him he made some comment about like he he was like watching a tiktok about like guys that are like um when girls are like i'm gonna go take a shower and guys are like without me you know and he was like I'm so happy I don't need to be on dating apps anymore and I sent him like a mocking gif like you know like I'm good for you and he was like

well you're a cat you'll get swooped up soon and I was like yeah but I just have to stay picky and then I was like I've been wanting to ask you like how's your girl so I can stop calling her your girl like what's her name you know I want to interrupt you a little bit because him saying like you'll get swooped up soon i hate the idea that people have that like women are waiting to get swooped up like i'm fucking like we're fucking not yeah we're not waiting for like some guy to come swoop us up yeah it's we're we're true that's like that was my first thought when he said it's just like if i meet you and i don't feel the way that like i want to be feeling in the presence of someone who's like you know someone i'm i might want to start dating or have a romantic relationship

with like it's just not i'm just gonna say goodbye right i could have settled a long time ago yeah my therapist reminds me of this she like when i'm like the times that i would mention like oh well like these people are married so i just feel like what am i doing wrong and she's like have you considered you're not doing anything wrong like you could have had those things but like you weren't happy so you made a different choice and i'm like oh shit you're right i i did yeah isn't it so funny how therapists will say things and it's like oh yeah no shit you're right i actually was miserable right and it's like why did she need to say that for me to realize my therapist says the same thing to me when i was talking about my ex and his new girlfriend she's

like well you could add that and you decided not to yeah like if i had comfort if you would compromised your values and who you are as a person then sure you could have had those things but do you think you would have been happy if you had those things no that's the biggest thing no I wouldn't have the life that I have right now if I would have compromised my values so anyways no one's waiting to be swooped up yeah remember that especially Amelia like yeah I'm sorry but like a lot of people have tried to lock it down and then she's like adios it's been real the most like like squints has gotten the farthest yeah that's true and it's because he's like okay i'm okay with that i'm okay with you taking your time and yeah it doesn't we don't need to decide

anything right now that's so fucking true and it's because he was about to get married mm-hmm he is he is such a fucking gem he has he is so aligned with my experience and your experience that it makes a lot of sense like where he is and why he is so stable yeah and secure and like understands boundaries and has his own one of our listeners figured out who he is this is an anecdote actually um our pisces bestie is who it was she messaged me and she was like love squints on like a post that I posted of him I'm like girl how the fuck do you know she like pieced it together and I did and I did I was like and he doesn't care like you know he's like but I still want to respect his privacy but I messaged her back was like you can't tell anyone she's like

I won't I mean I'm out here just straight up tagging Mr. Liz and I'm like hey is it okay people probably know who you are and he's like whatever yeah I mean he doesn't really post on social media no he does nothing yeah so it's like he replies to my stories and that is literally it squints squints is um on tiktok now i edited his first video for him he's like trying to i'm not gonna give any more information because our pisces best you already figured it out with shit that i said but he's on tiktok now but this okay back to moscow he um i asked him like what's your girlfriend's name so i can stop calling her like your girl like she has a name but i was just being nosy but also like i do not like calling people like your girl because she's not his

anything and he was like he sent me back this long text this long text that was basically like he was like I don't like my last relationship was so public and like people were like in our business and da da da and like it was like so toxic and like we were miserable like behind the scenes but then like we were like happy like online and I just decided I want to do things differently this time and I was filming all weekend so I didn't answer and he was like kind of like he sent me another message and he was like does that sound a little ridiculous and then like hours later when I still hadn't responded he was like I'm sorry I'm starting to think that that probably sounded ridiculous and I wrote back and I was like I mean like you have to do whatever

first of all I don't believe that there's a girl but that's beside the point I was like I thought he was gonna reveal to you like there isn't one no I mean like he kind of did but like I I messaged back and I was like I'm coming from an opposite side of it where like I was really private about my relationship for multiple reasons and now everything is on the table because it has to be because we have this yep and everyone that I date has to be okay with that and like the I mean we use nicknames but people like our Pisces bestie is gonna figure it out because like I've given enough clues for people to figure out who it is and like Virgo people figured out who Virgo was literally immediately when I posted that video yeah people have to be okay with and Virgo didn't

really like opt into this because i hooked up with him before we had the podcast but i don't really care because he's a public figure so but neither here nor there i everyone that we date like kind of has to opt in to like being people knowing who they are really like even if we try our best to keep it a secret that's just the reality of it but i just thought it was an interesting juxtaposition say that this girl is real i want to give them the benefit of the doubt whatever like having this approach of being like I'm not gonna post her anywhere I'm not gonna say her name I just want like nobody to know who she is like we don't really have that anymore which is interesting I'm okay with it we opted into it but like I don't really give a fuck like

we do keep things close to the belt like there are things that we don't share on yeah the podcast obviously but like identities are eventually going to be known because people care like people care about what we're doing they care about our well-being and if we're happy and who we're with and like who this person people are who these people are that we talk about in such great length on the podcast it's like if it's in the present we make sure like we ask like hey just so you know it's okay are you okay with this yeah um and then i feel like when it's something that happened in the past we always like we'll give it some time and then when we give it some time it's free game yeah that's so true there's been so many things where i'm like i have to like give it

like a grace period of like a month or so well now we do early on we didn't oh my god like french press yeah i was literally just thinking about him wow he's such like a he's like the the star of the he really he has come up so many times and we've both been blocked for so long whatever what are the odds of him listening i'm like oh my god that's so cute you think i think of you that much yeah anyways kinky katie texted us about this and then i started seeing i know we both forgot to text her back but it's while i think it was while you were filming and then i don't know what i was doing okay also i'm notoriously not good at texting um should i pull it up if you want uh you don't know she sent us a post that uh this has been going around like

on i've seen it on twitter i've seen it on tiktok okay um apparently pushing on your like lower stomach while you're like having sex or like being fingered um makes you orgasm what i've also seen a video of a girl doing like um she was hanging and like doing like leg ups i don't know what that's called but like it's for your abs it's for your lower abs and she had an orgasm while she was doing that yeah so it also applies like during during sex like when you're having if there's something in there and you're pushing down that makes so it makes your orgasm more intense because your g-spot's like right here yeah so that makes sense so she was like did everyone know about this except me and i'm like wait my high school boyfriend used to do that

and i didn't pay attention like if he was fingering me you push he would like i've been thinking about this more recently because i kind of like didn't really remember that this is how he did this like he would be sitting behind me and fingering me and pushing down on my stomach sitting behind you would you that's the only time i've had an orgasm from being fingered really yeah were you on all fours or like no behind you like like his legs would be i'd be between his legs like the comedian used to do that shit to me yeah yeah but also the thing about that is it's hot because like sitting in that position's hot like like coming up behind someone or something yeah like i was sitting on the ground and like doing something on my computer at uh mr liz's

place the other day and he came up behind me and was like touching my neck and playing with my hair and i was like you're making me feel away right now it's just like something something feels nice about it but i think it's because they have like a good range of like motion you know because it's way it's in front of you you're not like doing anything like it's right like the person's in front of you you could do like a little reach around situation you have more mobility that way right so maybe that's why maybe it's there's something like so hot about it because they have maybe like a better angle it was just something whenever the comedian would like put me in that position it would be it would be like a helpless kind of thing that would like turn me on

you know like i can't do anything really it's like i'm just like kind of in your i had a sex dream about him last night it happens hate that for me yeah hate that for me i haven't i haven't thought about him in a long time i woke up i was like sometimes it's fuck you have like these weird intrusive dreams hate it hate it it was also like a nap dream because i like oh those dialed into a meeting and those don't even count as real dreams that's so true they feel so much more like vivid though um i also wanted to mention i was reading the comments on a video because i've seen a couple of videos pop up like this after kinky katie texted us um and uh someone was like if you're talking about what i think you're talking about this also works for trans girls and i know because

i'm trans so fuck yeah but i think you could you could easily accomplish this from like kind of like a sensual missionary type thing you know where you're on your back but i used to call it over the edge so you're like on the edge of like the bed or whatever and then they're standing up oh and you know i love that one your feet are up and they're like holding on your ankles it's the fucking it is a really fun one missionary had a different name yeah no one likes missionaries we should one of these days i'm gonna i'm gonna put a little bit of brain power behind this we should rename missionary um over you know there's over the edge over the edge well because technically that's like missionary but not but missionary

fucking hits it really does i just really love feeling like close to the person that i'm having sex with but then i feel like both parties are like this is missionary we should change positions you know because it's like there's such like a stigma with missionary but like it's the it's I think it's top three positions for me, for sure. The only thing I don't like about missionary is you don't have as good of clit access that you know. That's a good point. That's a good point.

So when you spice it up and, you know, maybe like your back is on like an incline or they're standing on the side of the bed and, you know, holding your ankles, there's a little more mobility there. I like that position because you have good clit access. That's so true. You really, really do. without that that vibrator damn that is true I wonder if there's and especially when you have

long nails and you're just doing missionary you always kind of end up scratching like you're the dude's torso I don't even try it at that see I always try and it's just I'm the way I always regret trying get distracted so when you're on your stomach and you got the leg up you have full access and it's just like there's a lot going on it's very it's like a very cerebral experience it's pretty amazing and and i'm saying that as someone who has not tried that at all until you explained it thank you kinky katie thank you thank you kinky katie anyways push it on your lower stomach it's the moral of the story yeah regardless of your genitals apparently yeah so this is a win for everyone i couldn't imagine anything better sexual win all around so my

parents have been getting ready to move to florida they move into my apartment on thursday for five days before they leave because the movers are coming to move all their stuff i say this because they were cleaning out the storage area and in the storage area was a bunch of stuff from the house that i lived in before i had moved home and they started to go through the box and they were like we figured it was probably best for you to go through it and then there was like a vibrator handcuffs and like serious handcuffs i don't remember buying them those were like police yeah handcuffs why did i have those we had a friend screenshot it and send it to us with and it said a cab

i honestly i want to make it my background it's such a good it's just a great photo is that i'm gonna post it i'm gonna put it on the uh podcast instagram go look at our instagram oh my god yeah when this when this is this episode is live liz will have put it on the story um but in that box of my things there was this a thousand sex games that i had bought with my ex and i remember distinctly we were both very disappointed with it but my brother was home for the holidays and he saw it and he was like i don't know what's in there but you should talk about on the podcast i was like brilliant so i brought it the cover is two people kissing if you have us on patreon i'm trying to get the light out of it this is uh it's it was

sold at lovers um if you live in washington that's a sex store yeah it's on the way to the airport yeah there was one right down the street from my parents house i don't know if it's still there um i didn't know it was a chain i don't know what is in here but there are this is the first time opening it since okay so we got a little roulette there's sex dice so there's a spinny thing and dice that's a lot of things oh oh okay so these could kind of be like along with our sex fact of the week there are like tips in here okay okay so i'm just gonna pull a random one um oh there's stripping charts in here oh a thousand is a lot i wonder if anyone's ever counted it well so these die have like it's like you know kiss back or something let's see what

this one says oh yeah okay if you're listening and you have a partner you need to do this to your partner decide which of you will do it in three two one you have to stroke lips weird oh yeah i'm gonna put some balm on there baby subscribe to us on patreon so watch me awkwardly stroking me in those lips okay and then the other person you have to lick inner thighs i like that one i remember me and my act this is the only game from here that my ex and i played and we would always just roll the most like ridiculous shit um okay this card is called dirty talk oh there's little pictures of positions fun this is just froggy we've talked about this one okay you filthy beast you and your lover are to talk dirty to each

other during lovemaking if you're not sure what to say begin by telling your lover what you are going to do to them then progress to playful names like filthy pig boy and hot little whore who broke those try not to offend your lover but still call him or her names and be very aggressive with your dirty words fucking idiot it's just degradation you dumb motherfucker no degradation can be hot depending on the words you use little pig boy is not a little pig boy i hate that oh my god don't call your partner a dirty little pig boy unless you're like into that yeah agree upon that little pig boy what was the other one filthy little whore or something like more kind of filthy little whore okay we all know slut is the word you need to go

to oh i love being called a slut in bed how do you feel about dirty slut i love dirty slut see filthy little whore it it means the same thing as dirty little slut yeah but dirty little slut feels so much better like like yeah yeah yeah i've been called a whore yeah you fucking whore oh my god i don't like that i love it i there is something in the moment it depends on who's saying it you know my ex used to do this thing where like he would find out that i was like in degradation or i was into like being slapped you know and he would do it at like really inappropriate times i remember us talking about this we talked about early episodes i don't remember if i told you this but i asked mr liz i was like i think i might like that and

i want you to try it yeah did you try it yes and it fucking hurt we haven't done it since what it was if you're new to the podcast i like went through a phase where i loved being slapped in the face during sex and my ex knew i told him that and then he would just like slap me in the face when we were like passionately having sex and it was it was like wait hold on it's not that kind of like what the fuck and it was just like you have to build into that yeah it was just there's a time and place slap someone in the face no or like be like yeah just having like a very like you've had a romantic evening it hasn't built up to like something that's not gonna be vanilla like right i've said this before i like vanilla sex yeah you just have different kinds of sex

and you can't be having vanilla sex and then just be like yeah you're my little slut what did i do to upset you uh that wasn't where my head was at but i guess yeah like yeah it's just there's a time and place there's a time and place and you just have to be good at recognizing when that time and place is how does one be good at slapping during sex is it like you hold their face and you slap a little bit yeah yeah see it just slapped me uh-huh that's what my ex would do too just slap oh you don't hold your face now people when i tell them that i'm into that they'll hold my face and slap my face see i think they're that's different because there's a little more control there yeah in

terms of like yeah in terms of like pain yeah because if you don't know you're about to get hit yeah it's like exactly that's the thing is it would always catch me off guard and i feel like slapping area it needs to be in the cheek zone because when mr liz hit me it was like i feel like it was like his hands are bigger than mine so it's like you know he's also getting this temple area that's so true and it's also like there's something about like it has to be all wrist and not arm that changes the slap my ex would just like full like arm and he was so he hated doing it because he he was a very gentle person so i mean not with my emotions clearly but like he would be really gentle so he would do it and then be like oh and i'm like there are ways to

do this and not be not feel bad about it and part of that is just holding and slapping part of it is being good at it yeah yeah well because there is something so different between slapping an ass than like slapping someone's face yeah exactly it's more it's more wrist look at the flick of the wrist a little a little more of this fishy like this a little more princessy here a little more princessy a little less elbow elbow wrist wrist elbow elbow wrist wrist you know anyway and then slapping slapping some ass hell yeah different that wrist is it's firm it's firm and the arm is doing all the work you're just you slap it it's there's a there is the yeah you have to figure out the form for each body part yeah just do a little bit of face you know that's

a that that's the delicate part of your body with caution i suggest watching balessa porn which and i want to move on to our sex facts because we've been talking for so long now but oh and our pottery died god damn it but our um i got sent a package from balessa the vibrators are actually life-changing and i want to talk about this a different week when we have more time highly highly recommend and that's all i'm gonna say because the camera died and i really really want this to be a key feature of our conversation because it's changed my it's change my mind on vibrators we'll talk about it next week that's that's a big yeah that is huge i know it okay so your sex fact of the week i have a sex fact of the week sex fact of the week

beautiful i feel good about that one that's not rehearsed i don't think it's in key but no I you know what is key the vibes right the vibe was on there there's definitely some kind of vibe there was a vibe and it's threatening so I just scared me um I'm doing the sex fact of the week I know it's a rare occasion but I've been excited to talk about this love this so it's kind of like a two-part sex fact of the week um and this one I have to give some credit to I wrote it down emily arnold is her handle on tiktok okay um and she got this information from the book called beyond shame and a listener actually tagged us in this tiktok and i was like holy fuck i'm adding this to my reading list oh yeah um but she explains like reiterates from the book

like when you're having sex and like when you're orgasming um the hormones that are released like when you're having sex and such um are dopamine testosterone oxytocin and vasopressin and vasopressin is in charge of like feeling close to someone wow and then prolactin which is that comes in when you're having an orgasm and it's that feeling of satisfaction so when you have an orgasm like after that those all leave and then the one the like hormones that stick around are oxytocin and vasopressin and those stay at the same level that you already feel for that other person so if you have like a relationship like a good relationship with someone and you're maybe you're in a relationship with them and you already have those feelings for them

like it's you're not going to feel as much of a drop so it goes on she goes on to explain just in the home stretch of course she goes on to explain that like you go chasing this like feeling of from like dopamine which is way more fleeting than those two other hormones and that's why like maybe like um one night stands aren't as satisfying or you'll have a bunch because you're like chasing this feeling of satisfaction relatable but you really only have that if you have like this connection and trust with another person yeah yeah damn that's so true i think about all the time how like i in that time in my life where i was just like fucking whoever you know and like leaving their house and being sad yeah i'm being like why the

fuck am i sad a big part of that was aftercare and we've talked about that but i did feel like it was like a chemical thing that ties in exactly to the next thing hell yeah if this is a totally different tiktok i got both of these within a few days um so this information is from um with love wick so with love wick w-i-c-k um and she is stitching like these other creators who are talking about aftercare and they're they're saying like um aftercare is better than the orgasm and like the couple is like showing the things that they do after they have sex and um she goes on to explain that like aftercare is like scientifically proven to like be beneficial and she's like we could learn a lot from this couple but um post-sex bonding so over like

post-sex bonding is beneficial to people because over 40 of people experience post-coital dysphoria which just means that feeling of like sadness or irritability and she also explains like it doesn't matter like who the person is like everyone kind of feels this and I think that also might be why like I was just so overwhelmed with like all of these like hormones like after like having this the biggest orgasm ever of course I'm gonna start crying about how much I love this person right right there are chemical components to why you're feeling the way that you are and then for it to be proven that like afterwards I will continue to feel high because I already have this like really deep level of like vasopressin and um oxytocin for Mr. Liz

because I like I love him so much yeah so like that continues to stick around and I've had like just this surge of hormones and I start crying about how much I love him yeah yeah sex when you're in love with someone is so different it's so different and not even just that but like knowing you are fully safe and can be yourself with that person it just hits different like it does hit different it hits different when you're like i can have like crazy kinky sex with you and also tell you that i have to poop immediately yeah it's not gonna change it's just a special level of like connection of just being able to be fully honest and just like be yourself and not feel like you have to like show up a certain way in their life for them to accept you yeah right

exactly you just are who you are and they love you for that yeah that's like it's such a rare and like freeing feeling it really really is yeah being feeling completely safe with somebody is such a gift like yeah it's it's so true like being knowing that you can have this like crazy sexual experience with someone and that like you can have like a completely different experience with them like five minutes from then that is like a different kind of love and like you're going to feel like like held by them in a different way like five minutes later it just feels different and that's not to say like I mean I had a lot of really great sex when I wasn't in love with people so you can still it's like obviously we're not saying that it's like bomb ass sex but it hits

different when you're in love with them and you know more than 40 percent of people do feel like some sort of like sadness or irritability or disconnect after they have sex or like I would say after you have sex and also after you orgasm potentially like you're gonna have this feeling of like i'm not even connected to this person yeah yeah you feel sad yeah um and some people so she was like saying that um like scientifically it's proven that like it's clear that aftercare is a solution to this like having some sort of bonding activity afterwards does create like a dynamic between you and your partner that alleviates that feeling a bit yeah and i think it's just because you know like the first part of this bit of just having

this surge of hormones that disappear afterwards that's gonna fuck with anyone yeah right any any sort of like brain chemical that like surges is going to make you feel like out of your ordinary yeah you know so being aware of it and being aware of what you need afterward or like being aware of how like you react to different kinds of people and just being keyed into it i think is like really beneficial to yeah yourself talk to partners about aftercare even it doesn't matter like we've said we will always say this it doesn't matter if you're having kinky sex no like after care is a key to just you know being intimate with literally anyone what stop what he's back hi gorgeous you've been so quiet the past few weeks i'm sure our listeners have missed

you he's like i know oh my god he's so handsome i've missed you baby there we go hi anyway so i thought that was really interesting just the combination of like understanding what is happening in your brain and with your hormone levels and um also understanding like how after care can benefit everyone yeah just like pay attention to how you're feeling and what you feel like you need and communicate that with your partner and it's going to make it better for everybody involved and then also like asking your partner maybe what they need afterward too yeah that's exactly what i do i did with mr list when we started and he was like knowing that you are taken care of makes me feel like taken care of yeah exactly and i mean that obviously plays

into like our like dom and sub dynamic totally i am to feel taken care of i need to know that you're taken care of yeah yeah yeah yeah that's true that's a good point yeah it's also like i don't think that people everyone that i've talked to about aftercare that wasn't exposed to it prior is like oh wow like can i think about that because i want to put thought into it and it's like people are just waiting to be asked it feels so fucking good after like having an orgasm with someone that you care about um to just be held or like yeah just having this like you know experience where like you have just climaxed yeah that like just like snuggling into each other because it's like yeah we i didn't do this because i felt like i had to yeah like i enjoy doing this and i enjoy

making you feel good and you enjoy making me feel good and i care about you as a person right that's the most important part i care about you as a human as someone who has let me like have sex with you and seen we've seen each other naked like i care about you as a human yeah yeah and it's like being able to connect in a different way after having that rush too is like it's an interesting experience like laying in bed and talking to someone when you haven't had sex feels different than laying in bed and talking to someone after you've had sex like it just feels different and that's also like part of aftercare is like being able to have a conversation like I love kind of like I've said this before like recapping what just happened yeah debriefing and

then going on to do some sort of bonding activity like maybe you get dinner together or like eat a snack in bed or yeah play a video game or like cuddle up and watch a movie or show that you've already been watching like just doing something that shows that like it's not just like hooking up and like leaving yeah you don't have to stay the whole night but just having some kind of like connection afterwards it could be five minutes it could be an hour it's like just talk about what you need and don't overthink it i have been wanting to talk about this for a few weeks this is this is a short thing but part of me and squints is aftercare i don't know what it is i love watching him get dressed oh i fucking love it more than i like watching him get undressed

and it's become like kind of like a running joke like i'll like go to the bathroom or like take a shower after we have sex and he's like I'll wait to get dressed like he knows like I love watching him get dressed and I'll like applaud him after he does like each article that's so that's so cute it's just so hot to watch get dressed well and then that's also like an example of like something that you two have created yeah yeah yeah yeah like he's aware of something that you like yeah so he's gonna make time for it and like yeah I think that's really sweet and like it's so like unique to the both of you totally and he'll like wear a certain amount of layers sometimes like when he knows we're gonna have sex like i love it put on his bracelet oh my god i wish someone would

applaud for me when i was like deciding what to wear they're just like yes queen killing it put on that sports bra oh my god i don't know what it is i've like oh you know there i've i have hooked up with a lot of beautiful men there's something about watching squints get dressed that really really does it for me and it's funny we both laugh about it but i genuinely love it well and then also like being able to like laugh about something that you love too just makes it even more enjoyable that's so true i think that's really sweet yeah okay well thank you for listening i have um cannot forget to plug our socials at the holy hour on tiktok instagram twitter um holy hour podcast at gmail.com

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