The Hoely Hour - The New Testament E2

Episode Date: July 13, 2020

Amelia stars in Crank and keeps her heart rate up in a unique way while she drives, and Liz wants to be crushed by a brick house like the Wicked Witch of the East. In this mini episode, Amelia answer questions from listeners about threesomes, masturbation, and porn. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

I'm a slut because I really want to, like, live out Mamma Mia, IRL. I'm doing this for my future child. Dancing queen, young and sweet, only 17. It's going to be our new intro song. it's the new testament of the holy hour baby i'm amelia samson and i'm liz ball thanks for joining us welcome to it's a mini update story corner are there two masses a week because i feel like maybe because in christianity there's like wednesday church um mass is just whenever you want to go yeah just pop in it's good it's happening right now my papa is a deacon and

um from what i know he is at the church when whenever so i think it's just uh whenever you want to go just pop on in yeah just pop in my papa might be there pop into her papa pop in see my papa it sounds like a pizza commercial we're not making okay all right we recorded for 30 minutes before this i think we're both just so so we haven't recorded in two weeks yeah um and i think we're just giddy and we also worked a whole eight hour day before this so i think we're just you know really running on fumes here anyway okay so one of these questions that was submitted to us uh also if you want to submit questions to us you can email us or dm us so wait

what's our email holy hour podcast at gmail holy hour podcast at gmail.com there's no the at the beginning it's just holy hour we got the email before we locked in our name yeah or you can dm us once again everything will always be anonymous except for mine and amelia's identity and fucking reese who i will fight i'm challenging you to a duel anyways i'm gonna get into this this question so it says threesomes yes no why or why not weird fun taboo glorified by hollywood but what's the reality on them i love how this question is written there's a lot there's a lot it feels like like the a west side story song okay anyways i've been talking a lot so i'll like i'll let you answer first amelia oh fuck well

have you ever had a threesome i've never had me neither so maybe we shouldn't be speaking on this but i've had a three-way makeout you like all just kind of kissing at the same time yeah like in a triangle yeah well it's with a couple oh i feel like i did it a few times okay yeah would you ever have a threesome um i actually think i would what are your terms and conditions t's and t's and c's okay uh i don't know i would prefer to be the third in the situation yeah um but also a lot of my preferences have changed and been challenged in the last week who's to say you never know um but i do think i would i do think i would be down for a threesome Um, I, um, two dicks sounds overwhelming to me.

Um. Not to me. Oh my god. This fucking cop car. It's honestly, it's too, it's a lot. Yeah. I don't, why do they do that? Oh, he's going away.

Because they don't get enough attention. Boop, boop, boop. It's, is it just like not start? And then it's like. Yeah. My siren won't start. Smacking their dash. Like when you're trying to get your cars to start.

Yeah. okay fuck hold on yeah um a threesome with a man and a woman sounds appealing to me um i think i would prefer to be the third uh just because i feel like it takes a lot of trust between that those two people yeah um to decide to have a threesome so yeah i think i would prefer to be the third just because i wouldn't want my first experience having a threesome to be that like challenging to try and navigate um and then if i ever decided if i wanted to have a threesome in a couple like if i was dating someone and we were like let's have a threesome i would at least have that like other side of the experience under my belt that's a good point

knowing what it feels like for the other person yeah exactly that's a really good point um and i think i would want to like probably have threesome with a couple who have already had threesomes because i think no matter what like from all aspects it needs to be like safe everyone needs to be on the same page yeah um i don't know sex can already be kind of like a lot going on with just one other person yeah so and you already have to be like in tune to what that person wants and like where their feelings are at yeah so I think I'd be down um I I think I feel like the people I know who have had threesomes I they had them in college and I can't imagine like a threesome in college would be good um just because like the guys I

know that have had threesomes in college like I wouldn't say that they're good guys at least they weren't in college anyways so um I think in that aspect it was like everyone's drunk and they're just like yeah this is a cool thing to do and less like less of like a complete sexual experience yeah yeah what do you think I don't know I've actually thought a lot about this in my relation my last relationship it was a hard no um but there was also just trust issues a lot of history there that I just didn't want to even entertain the idea I feel like if I was in a relationship and I had a threesome I would it would have to because I see a lot of couples on like on hinge that are looking for another person um and I think that that would have to be my approach

like I couldn't ever run into this person again because like I don't I'm not jealous until I'm like in a relationship you know what I mean like yeah I not in like a if my boyfriend flirts with somebody like i don't give a fuck you know what i mean but like if i know that they've had a sexual history i'm like a little bit like like is there or do you still like kind of like you know i don't know that reminds me of like so um with my ex with shoe man he did this all the fucking time like we would be at something or he'd invite me to something where like a um a girl he used to sleep with would be there and it wasn't like always the same girl i think this happened like two or three times um but one time he brought me to this girl's fucking birthday party and didn't tell me that's

what we were doing like the girl he used to sleep with and like that's the part that bothered me i'm like why aren't why are you keeping all of these secrets from me like why do you feel like it needs to be a secret why are you being so suspicious about it because that's the thing that's making me feel like um insecure and even jealous like why like why is this being kept a secret from me um anyway but like when it comes down to it I realize like I'm actually not a jealous person it's just like when their behavior is like they're trying to keep something from you then you're like why aren't you just being honest with me yeah because I would have been like oh yeah like we can go and do that I just wanted to know that's what we were doing so I don't look like a fucking

dumbass yeah everyone else knows except for me yeah and that happened all the time I'm like okay well just tell me next time and then he wouldn't yeah I would definitely rather know it's it'll be interesting to see how I feel the next time I'm in a relationship because I think that a lot of my insecurities were rooted in immaturity in my last relationship and now I'm at this I'm approaching dating with like not having any feelings involved and I'm like adamant about it like the second that I start to feel like anything deep I kind of start to panic because I know that I get like that or at least I that's what I'm used to getting like um I don't actually know how I would be now so who knows like maybe the next time I'm in I'm in a relationship I'll be

like well let's introduce a third person like why not that sounds fun but again like I don't think that it could ever be somebody that we know because there's always going to be something in the back of my mind that like I had a couple of friends in college that hooked up with somebody that was in our friend group like as a threesome and yeah and like that was always kind of like a yeah it's chill like they're always playing it off like it's chill like everything's like we decided to do it and it was fun ah ha ha but then it's like they were always kind of there's like a little bit a little bit of like maybe like we don't you know maybe you don't hang out with her one-on-one and stuff like that it's like I think that it's a kind of a delicate balance to strike

but speaking outside of my own experience if the if the t's and c's are worked out early on and like you both are interested in doing it then why not it's just another sexual experience to yeah experience and you have to like you really have to think about what um you do and don't want and like what your triggers are before you like engage in something like that yeah like maybe if it's like a um a man and woman seeking a third like and the third is another woman like maybe there's just no like p to v contact like that's something that i've heard a lot of it's like you can make out with her and you can touch her but like do not have penetrative sex with her when I was talking to music man about what I was willing to do sexually that was one of his questions was

like would you ever have a threesome and my gut reaction was like but I don't know what that is I honestly think like I've I've been cheated on in multiple of my relationships in the past so I think that there I have some things to work through in therapy before I would ever be comfortable having a threesome but my gut reaction is always like nope I would not do that but maybe I'll be the third but then if I was the third like I feel like I might have an insecurity around like these two people have sex a lot and like now I'm introducing myself into the equation like am I gonna feel out of place like are is their sex life struggling and so I need to be there and it's like it's hard to know it's already um I feel like it's already kind of like

vulnerable to hook up with someone for the for the first time in the first place because you're learning about like how to be intimate with them um yeah and like everybody's different you know so i think that like having to do that with two people yeah might be a little overwhelming i think yeah i think it would might make me anxious like i don't know if i'd be able to get out of my head yeah I think it would just have to be like you know the tide was right and like and then it just happened but I don't know if I would go seeking it out yeah that's the thing if I was like going to someone's house being like I'm about to have a threesome with this couple I probably wouldn't be so into it but if it was like yeah that's what you're gonna do maybe what

if you like go on a date first like what if you with the couple yeah like you just go on a regular date with the couple and then like you know maybe the second time you go on a date is like when you're like yeah i'm totally comfortable with hooking up or something i really don't know yeah what's like i'm i'm curious what is like the i don't want to say the best way to have a threesome because it'd be different for everyone and there's always like everybody has different reasons because you and i are highly sensitive yeah so i think that would be yeah i feel like I'm talking like I might like you know I would but I actually don't know if I would but I don't know how I would feel if I was actually presented with the situation but like talking now and I have

nothing against people that would like no fucking dude yes go for it yeah like if you have a sexual prowess to fuck two people damn like respect but I don't I don't know if I have like the I don't know if I'm confident enough and I don't know if it's confidence that you need I don't know what it is but my gut reaction is to say I wouldn't do it but I support it would you count giving two guys hand jobs at the same time as a threesome I call it like two shake weights I love that I know a few girls who have gone skiing I heard in in high school somebody um two guys Eiffel Towered a girl have you heard of Eiffel towering fucking hate it they're just like high-fiving like i don't i don't know i don't

like that i don't i've heard of something like that in high school too like what are y'all doing yeah in high school i was too corny and nervous to do anything i kissed a lot of people in high school i did a lot of people i had a list in my phone of all the guys that i had kissed oh i used to have one of those uh in college and then i think i was really drunk one night and i was like this is stupid and people think i'm a slut so i'm gonna delete it and then i like i went to go look at it one day and i was like no where'd it go no that's so sad i know and i just want to say to past liz even if you are a slut it's have fun it's a good thing yeah live your life who gives a shit like i said as long as you know you're you're being safe that's it if you're

being safe and you're not hurting anyone be a slut exactly we love the word slut in this household love the word hoe slut hoe skank skank that word hits hard hooker hooker um floozy do we both just say floozy at the same time i don't think i've ever used that word floozy that's such like a 50s word she's such a floozy such a floozy that's something you would hear in greece mean whore i used to love the word whore whore stupid whore she's such a fucking whore i would call people a whore just if i didn't like them it's crazy i mean in in lieu of bitch like oh she's such a whore damn it's crazy that these words have been weaponized yeah you know like what are are there male equivalents because i mean like man whore i'm doing air quotes but

you guys can't see it like a man whore is a thing a gentleman collar i don't know like what is like a like a male equivalent what's the male prostitute a male prostitute like all these words exist for females and then you just put male in front of it we have fuck boy that's true fuck boy is a good ass that's an all-encompassing it just hits hard fuck boy fuck boy uh soft boy soft boy i almost think sock boy is worse than a fuck boy i think it's more offensive for them yeah yeah i'm not a soft boy i am woke i voted almost i filled out my ballot i just never mailed it i filled it out on the last day and then i forgot to walk to the drop off

i went to the women's march and i held up a poster and took a picture and then left but i was there. I have the picture to prove it. I have the picture to prove it. Sure. Maybe I do love espresso. Okay. But that doesn't mean I'm going to write a novel while I drink it. So I've noticed that the people that I've had the best like dates with and stuff are guys that i've liked them first okay interesting well i yeah i actually i get more gratification out of when i like somebody and then hinge is like it's a match like i liked you back it's a match i'm target lady why can't it sound like that it's a match um well i like i don't know i like saying something fucking weird because i feel like

when a guy likes you they just like your picture they like a picture maybe they'll like respond to a prompt yeah but usually it's I've noticed it's mostly like so and so liked this picture I'm like can you give me something to work with yeah like say something I think men are so like jaded by like straight boys straight boys are so jaded by these because I've heard from a lot of guys that they'll like message a girl and then she'll message him back and then and then that's it like she doesn't answer after that so I think when men are going through like all of the women they're just like whatever she's not gonna respond to I'll just like throw a like on her photo and I mean I understand if it's like oh she's cute but you know I'm not gonna put in all

this effort like if she wants to talk to me she'll talk to me yeah and that's fair like I get it predominantly like we put it on like men to to talk to us and to approach us so i don't know um one guy i went on a date with last week i had liked one of his pictures that and then he didn't answer like a day went by and i like i am already shitty enough at checking him so i was like fuck it i'm not gonna wait for this guy to answer and then i was just like hey i don't really like messaging on hinge and about it checking it so um you seem fun and cute and please text me that is some alpha shit and then he texted me right away and then we went on a date and it was awesome care to elaborate more i'm wondering if i should elaborate in in this mini episode or

in the actual episode maybe a little like commercial for the next a little commercial okay i'll elaborate a little bit you can cut it out if you want to also i want to i would rather like save it for the whole thing yeah okay because stay tuned keep listening stay tuned but i do have a nickname for him yeah yeah so the nickname i'm gonna give him is brick house because he's got a body like a brick house and i want him to crush me like i'm the wicked witch of the west with that brick house body i want somebody to call me brick house this is she's a brick house what a compliment yeah but um but yeah i don't know i think like liz and i have been talking

a lot about like how we feel about how what we say must be affecting people and like I don't know I think it's important for us to establish that like like you were saying like these are just our experiences like this is just our side of the story and we're we're talking about how these things have made us feel and I think that that's okay like we're just talking how girlfriends talk well and I yeah exactly we're talking how we would normally talk about something and I also think it's like i can't speak on behalf of another person and their experience yeah it's a little out of pocket to try to do that yeah and i feel like it would almost be even more exclusionary to try and like speak on behalf of everybody right it just would make things too convoluted

not make sense this is just like because all of us have had maybe similar experiences where we've been like oh shit i've totally like felt like that before or i've been in a similar situation and it's less about like telling the whole story it's because we we only have our own story to tell you know yeah absolutely and like we've never we have never gone into this saying that we're like trying to educate people on things yeah we're not we said on our first episode and i think that it's important to say again that like the whole point of this podcast is to like destigmatize just speaking openly about sex that's it like and so we're talking about our own experiences we can't speak from the perspective of people that have different walks of life and we would never ever

pretend that we're trying to so like in our situations and how we talk about like how these men hurt us or like you know didn't hurt us and like made us happy like we can't speak about how they're feeling like we don't know how the person that's listening thinks about things we all think about things through a different lens but all that we have ever wanted to do is just like allow people to feel empowered to speak about their own experiences yeah that's it yeah that is it and since i've i don't know about you liz but like since we've started doing this people have just opened up to me about their sex lives and i fucking love that me too like it's like people have there have been a lot of people that i think have been waiting for like an open door

to talk about sex because like we said in the first episode like nobody knows people's level of comfort with talking about this yeah it is a very sensitive and vulnerable topic but also it's a lot of fun it's a fun thing to talk about yeah it is it's super fun to talk about and like the more we continue like doing this podcast um i don't know so many things have been changing my my viewpoint um it i mean and also like kind of trying to navigate like we're being very we have subjected ourselves to being in a very vulnerable position by choosing to tell people about our sex lives um and i don't think amelia and i like either of us are embarrassed about it but it is also you're you know we're putting it out there for the world to judge

so um that's the part that is sensitive for me anyways um just because like these are my personal experiences and for someone to tell me like it was wrong for me to experience something I don't know so that's the part that's been difficult for me but then also accepting that every single guy that I date or will want to to date is gonna have to be okay with this um and so far like everyone I've like gone on a date with has or at least have given my number to has listened to the podcast so that's also really interesting because they will go into a circumstance with me knowing some of my preferences in bed and just and also I mean learning a lot about you so sometimes I'm sure it probably feels like they know me in a more intimate way than I know them

yeah it's an interesting dynamic but a good example is um brick house I can't I'm not ever gonna be able to brick house I'm not ever gonna not be able to laugh and say the nickname I picked but it I have to keep it um yeah so when I went on a date with brick house he was like oh you said something that I didn't agree with and I was like oh what was it and I guess I had um in the first mini episode that we had um I had said I feel like guys just always want to have sex and he was like I think that's like a harmful narrative to to like talk about and I was like oh my gosh well first of all I like didn't remember saying that because that's also what I've experienced you know yeah um so again like that's the experience I had had to speak to and he was like I mean my

sex drive like has changed so much over the past few years so um i the more i thought about it after we had talked about it and like our date was over i was thinking about like how it is it is a harmful narrative to men because they'll be trapped in this idea of like what masculinity is and that's already like complicated to navigate in the first place yeah for for for i don't know like straight men um of what masculinity means and if there is this expectation that men are always horny and men always want to have sex and like if one man doesn't then it might be a threat to how he feels about himself so I like I love that he pointed that out to me and like I was able to think more in depth about it and I also like how he handled it like he was just like oh

yeah I didn't agree with one of the things you said like he didn't attack me at all he just like explained like why he thought that and I was like damn I really appreciate that you said that and I like respect him for for telling me that and we only can go off of like we've been saying we can we go off of our own experiences we don't know how you know so it's like I don't know it's been I don't want to cut you off but like being able to like hear that from people that have experienced it too and having people feel comfortable talking to us about those sorts of things it's like very eye-opening you know like me and Liz are not we're not experts we haven't gotten to school for this like we're really just speaking out of our own experience this can this is not an educational

podcast it would be hilarious if it was we have no we don't we don't have the grounds to be educating anyone no we're not doctors we're not experts no google it yeah well and then for us to try and educate you on something would be like it would be immoral yeah oh my god because we don't have any educational background no but um back to what Amelia was saying just like with people coming up to us to talk to us more openly about sex and also even the people I've like gone on dates with and given my number to like they are super it's super easy for us to have these candid conversations about sex and dating and all kinds of like preferences in general and um I don't know I I appreciate it I do too yeah it doesn't need to be a hush hush thing and I

think it's really it's like a respect thing for people going on dates to be like well I don't want to talk about this until she's ready to and knowing that you and I do this I think it makes them a lot more open and I think that I was expecting it to almost be um a detriment like oh she must be a slut and it's like first of all I love that word you're like yes I am thank you so much but like you know in the negative sense like oh she must be like easy you know and it hasn't been like that yeah at all worried like oh these guys are gonna go on a date with me because they think like I'll sleep with them or something and a lot of the men that know that I have this podcast haven't I've been on two dates with this one guy

and i was at his house and he didn't try anything with me so it's like i don't feel like it's been like uh i don't think that people's respect has gone down for me which i was worried about talk about yeah this question says can we talk about masturbation and porn this may need to be broken into two parts most of my girlfriends watch porn but i feel like many of us don't talk about it what we watching folks why is this so weird to talk about i say that as someone who feels weird talking about it too i totally understand that i porn is one of those things that like i love talking about sex but like the second i start talking about porn i'm like like i think porn is a sensitive thing anyway because there's a lot of issues with the porn industry so i have some

like moral issues with porn hey gatsby has some things to talk about he's like he's like wait this is my topic he's like wait every time my mom tries to masturbate i jump on the bed this is my area he's like i have a six cents for these things um if you have a cat you know exactly what i'm talking about okay don't even act like you don't know luckily they mind their business when i'm having sex but that's good it's too much activity for them um but yeah no i don't know like i am really i don't even know how to approach this question yeah um well we could start talking about masturbation yeah um I mean yeah you know masturbating I feel like it's what it is I I have um two different kinds of vibrators

one is for one is the one that we already talked about that can be used remotely and during sex I got so many texts about that by the way oh really people that didn't know that it existed they're like wait hold on yeah what yeah it exists i didn't know either um and then the other one i have i keep seeing like like insta single or whatever that account is on instagram i keep seeing them posting ads about this um like a vibrator that also is like it sucks oh yeah like the clit sucker yeah clit sucker yeah yeah i have one of those you do oh shit is it nice like does to do what it sets out to do it does a good job it has like a bunch of different settings and like speeds and intensities so it offers a wide variety because you don't want the same thing

every time you know uh get to play around with it i think that um i think masturbation is an important thing because not every woman is able to have an orgasm i've recently learned which again is just a byproduct of not having conversations with people about it but i recently learned that some women have never had an orgasm and i think that masturbation is such a beautiful way to explore that like trying to figure out what makes you have an orgasm like some people are lucky enough to just figure it out during sex like I have some friends that have I'm so jealous of women who can just come from like sex I was just about to say like a lot of my friends can have like g-spot orgasms yeah I'm like what the hell what I'm so jealous I'm blessed with that I know

my g-spot is very um sensitive like it's it but I also need to be there has to be clitoral I'm like do I have one like really have you not have you not experienced what it feels like to have your g-spot hit no not that i know of i would know right i don't know it feels kind of like for me it's like it makes me feel like i have to pee yeah that's it well okay so i remember the guy dated in high school like he was able to make me orgasm from fingering holy he's hit your g-spot then okay yeah yeah well no one else has done it since so it's like uh there's there's some um helpful little illustrations out there um anybody that is fingering a vagina myself have you masturbated in a weird place ever I've masturbated while driving

I respect that which like I don't know why but it's there's something about being on the freeway and having an orgasm that is that is thrilling like I'm going 65 right now and I just came i'm 65 and i'm coming it's like that movie crank you know that movie where that guy has to keep his heart rate up or i'll die listen i have to masturbate or i'll die i have to jack myself off on the freeway or i'll die jason statham oh my god oh man um i don't think i've masturbated anywhere like just at home yeah or like you know

when you're on the road when you're traveling i masturbated on an airplane once on an airplane on an overnight damn i was like fuck it he's like so have i do you have something to say hey um uh yeah now i'm like oh shit maybe i should try masturbating in other places but i hate airplanes they gross me out yeah okay but i have i have thought about i would love to like go in public and have my like remote control vibrator yes but i want someone else to control it oh for sure yeah yeah that would be so fun like at a restaurant or something i would love that or like if you're traveling with them like on an airplane yeah that would be fun oh i know you could just like you could just be like walking around the park and nobody knows uh-huh so your neighbors

are being so clunky right now that's why i need to move yeah i've been so um aware of the porn that i'm watching now that i've learned so much about the porn industry and how some women that are in pornos are being trafficked um and I recently learned that and so I've been trying to watch like very obvious porn yes yeah and it's tough to find that so much porn is not ethical I've been watching um this is so I don't know why I'm embarrassed to talk this is I'm like like I said in the beginning like porn is such like a it's the one topic so many people watch porn it's the one topic I feel weird about talking about I don't know why but I don't want it to be that way so I want to talk about it but I really love narrative porn like I love like there's there's

this guy on the internet who jacks off and talks about what he's going to do to you oh and I don't know what it is about it but I'm like he's a British accent like that this man I finally saw his face because I feel like we've reached a new level in our relationship I found what his face looks like I'm like wow we're there you and I are there I get to see what you look like now but he's just like has these videos and they have like a ton of views but he just like and he he he narrates from different scenarios and it's really sexy it's just like I mean I can yeah it's like sexting it's kind of feels like sexting so it feels more like I'm involved in it I can see how that would be appealing which is which is different from like oh I'm watching this to be love sex it's like oh

I'm actually like a I'm involved in this yeah exactly and that's hot to me so that's been like a new a new thing that I've you know gotten into recently um I've talked like I would say I was gonna ask like do you have like a type of porn that you like a category yeah no it depends on the day yeah that's how I feel too yeah you know because some days you want to watch some amateur porn and some days you want to watch a full orgy happen yes yeah I know some days I'll like watch something and then the next day i'll be like oh why i saw this i saw this meme once that was like um porn before and after you're you like get off yeah uh and like before it's like a beautiful pizza it's just like a pizza that you'd see in commercials and then after is like a picture of

pizza but it's like greasy yes that's so true sometimes we'll yeah like after you come you're like oh yeah why am I watching this what did I what did I like that yes not funny it's called um post nut clarity yeah I only have sex with men but I love watching lesbian porn because it's like women know what feels good for other women and it's so clear in porn like that they're all they're just both on the same page about what's going on and what needs to happen um and there's just something sexy about it to me and like when we first when me and my friends first talked about it we were we were all like do y'all like how like how do you feel about like two girls in porn all of us were like oh yes that's my favorite genre well and girls are hot yeah the female body

is a work of art christine yes chef's kiss yeah i think it's just like normal to be like yeah women are hot and watching them fuck is hot also hot yeah yeah and like the the confidence of like there's the energy in lesbian porn is totally different because it's like i feel like in a lot at least in a lot of the male and female porn that i watch there's like a power dynamic of like the man in the scene always because i think that like porn is a lot of the time directed for male viewers yeah um but with two women it's like there's no power dynamic there it's just like we're both boss bitches and we're both like we're just having sex and having a good time and we know what feels good and like it just the energy is just different in those videos it seems a little

more genuine in my opinion more genuine um a little more romantic i think a lot of the time trans porn i have i fucking love trans porn yeah what do you what like what is it about it i don't know um i think like both trans men and trans women they're so hot uh i don't know yeah i there i i wish i could explain why i think it's so hot but it's so because i i agree it's so difficult to know what is like kind of bordering on um fetishizing it oh yeah because it's like there's like not just with trans porn but with like asian porn and like you know like me watching this is this fetishizing it like i don't know and it's so it's like then i feel like maybe a little like i need to not be approaching porn as

like super deep like that but i start thinking about it i'm like is this appropriate like what i'm watching right now but then it's like there are certain things that it's like well maybe i just find that attractive yeah and like that's not fetishizing it no fetishizing fetishizing it like that's just like i just think it's hot yeah that's kind of where it ends and that's about as deep as it's gotten for me too yeah it's like damn that's hot yeah totally and then that's about it and i think when people are looking at porn um i don't think i think most people are not fetishizing anything it's just like yep this is this sounds good to me right now yeah yeah totally i'm gonna check this out uh-huh and then that's about it yeah yeah i mean it's like

i really like bdsm on certain days it's like am i fetishizing it maybe but like what constitutes said it you know what i mean i've just like i feel like i've started recently having these conversations with myself as i've been learning more and more about the porn industry yeah um so i don't know it's just it's interesting to to start really like thinking about it looking at it introspectively yeah and then also trying to find ethical porn yeah just i guess do a little research so you can like support ethical porn yeah mia khalifa has been like super outspoken recently i fucking love her she was apparently only in the porn industry for like three months and she's like a top porn star and she only made like something like twelve thousand dollars her

whole time she was yeah and that's fucking obscene it's ridiculous god she's such a boss bitch i fucking love her i'm like such a huge mia khalifa fan now um but yeah there's just all of this stuff coming out about the porn industry that it's like i have such a difficult time watching porn now which is good that's how it should be like you should be questioning these just like what you're consuming but I just had no idea you know for so long yeah before um I knew all the stuff that goes on with Pornhub sometimes I would like read the comments just in general yeah on the videos yeah there's just like some of the funniest fucking comments but what could a person like take a call like i want to know yeah make an account

and leave a comment i don't know yeah have you ever made an account on a porn site no me neither me neither but i was on a guy's phone once and his notes app was open and he had his um what is it browsers browsers browsers browsers i think it's browsers he had his browsers password and username on his notes app i'm like wow i met i finally have met somebody made an account who pays for porn there's so much free porn maybe it's a good thing maybe we should start paying for porn i mean now i'm thinking i probably should like but like there's so much free porn maybe we should like support people with only fans hell yeah or something fuck only fans has been such a liberating experience for so many people like it is so fucking cool how

everybody now has a platform to to share as much about their bodies or about themselves as they want to share that's fucking dope to me i love it like if you just type in porn on twitter you find a million dope ass only fans accounts yeah i know i haven't paid for only fans but i'm just like kind of like a window shopper at this point but it's amazing i'm like fuck yeah people are feeling so empowered to use this platform get the bag hell yeah all right i feel like maybe this is a good place to end this episode yeah thanks for joining this episode of the new testament um see you on wednesday love you love you love you mean it