The Hoely Hour - YAPPY HOUR: Make It the Girth of My Wrist

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

Celebrate the biggest Deepfake porn site — MrDeepFakes — beng shut down by giving yourself the first FDA approved at-home pap smear! How much money would you spend to switch bodies with your partner during sex? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Chachi BT, am I overreacting? Yeah, Nick Kroll had a show, Kroll Show, and they had a bit called publicity and they were a publicity firm and they both were named Liz oh my god publicity that's incredible I don't know I'll send it to you it's so fucking funny I already love it I used to quote it all the time I feel like the internet is not what it used to be I mean I know that it's like that was a television show but it does feel like that like with how sketch shows are now there aren't as many quotable moments because everybody is trying to create a quotable moment yeah and you just end up seeing it as a clip on tiktok yeah and not like the whole

show but sometimes i will see something that i like on tiktok and seek out the whole show like i got suckered into one of those um like movie apps like they have they have like little like short stories to be kind of like or wait what's that what's is it was it to be that like tanked in 2020 was it i don't know tubi or yeah i mean i think tubi still exists what's the one that i think i started with a q what quibi quibi yeah no but this is an app that has like like spicy short stories that are like oh people like that are like vampires and stuff that like wow dude i and i ended up downloading one because there was um it's so fucked are they actually like acting it out or is it yeah they're acting out it's bad acting it's bad script but it's so addictive and

like they show like three minutes on tiktok and then you like want to know what happens next and this one story was about this very rich like college girl whose dad sends his very very hot best friend to like be her bodyguard temporarily yeah and he is like a dom daddy and i guess he's like gardening age or beekeeping age that's what it is what is that it's a it's a clip from rick and morty oh and um one of the girls is like hanging out with summer who's like the older sister and then uh the dad jerry is outside beekeeping like he started beekeeping and then she's just like only talk she's talking to summer but she might as well be talking to herself and she's like she's like oh my god your dad keeps bees that's like so dorky but it's kind of cute

and then she keeps like commenting and then and then at the end she's like I want to fuck your dad she's like I get it but one of the lines is like I get I mean I guess he's beekeeping age so now whenever you see a tiktok with a hot dad you I guarantee you'll see a comment in there that says he's beekeeping age okay and now i'll be in the know yeah now you know all i've ever wanted is to be hip with the youth i always think it's so interesting where where you and i fall on the the content i know spectrum it's very i was just thinking that at the end let's share each other's um for you pages okay i love that i told frank at our anniversary this weekend that all i've ever wanted is to lay in bed with him and look at my liked um tiktoks and he was like i

didn't know that yeah and then he powered through how tired he was to watch no because like we're always in bed at different times like oh that's fair you know yeah so we don't ever have the opportunity mr liz well well so i have all my notifications turned off for all my social media apps because i need some peace um but he's like did you see the reels i sent you because he's not on tiktok yeah and i'm like no i haven't opened them yet and he's like can i watch you watch them oh my god that's the best that's like our our i think our main love language is watching each other watch videos that we sent to each other. Oh, I will be sitting on this side of the couch and Frank will be where you're sitting and I will hear the videos that I sent and just have so much

pride. I'm like, Oh my God. Did you think that was funny? Did you like it? Yeah. Okay. Shall we dive in? Yeah. We have a bunch of topics that came together quickly. A bunch. So my one, my quick one is a talking tits, breaking boobs. I don't know which one it is. I don't know. I feel like breaking boobs is more like it's it's new yeah it's happening right now right and then talking tits is like did you know this information um okay so did you know that the first at-home pap smear was just approved by the fda that's cool it's super great a little horrifying yeah but i understand a step in the right direction like go into this kind of like invasive environment is very i mean it's good that it's sterile yeah but i mean there's there's no need for a speculum

with this one no need for a speculum so here's how it works and now i'm listening so it's called the teal wand it's developed by teal health which is why it's called the teal wand um and so here's how it works self-collection the device resembles a tampon with a soft rotating sponge tip users can collect a vaginal sample in under five minutes without the need for a speculum is this um insurance covered by insurance it should be especially because it's covered by the fda i mean honestly who fucking knows at this point with what's going on with like government agencies like what's actually going to be like do i want to put this in my vagina yeah if it's like it is sterile something that the government is well here's the thing i don't want the government to

know things about my reproductive health that's you know what i mean that's true especially now that they're being so weird about it i'm like do you want five thousand dollars to have a baby well we know it costs more so this is specifically so okay after after collection the sample is made to a certified lab so I think that it's privatized which is good and I don't know if it's covered but I don't know if it's covered by HIPAA because it's I mean think about what's happening to uh what's the DNA one oh my god 23andme yeah yeah that's a private company that's selling now selling your that's true but I wonder what the difference is though between like the the labs that are testing the pap smears that you get in a doctor's office versus the ones that you're

taking at home. I don't actually don't know. But so it's tested using the same FDA approved HPV tests employed in clinical settings. And results are provided through Teal Health's virtual care platform. If the test detects high risk HPV strains, users are connected with health care providers for further consultation and necessary follow up care. So I think all in all, this is a good thing obviously I think like there are some questions that people should be asking obviously but I mean at home HPV tests already existed and they weren't always accurate in fact they were pretty faulty and now this is the first one being approved and specifically it's a pap smear like it's like I guess if it's being approved well I guess the previous one probably had to be approved

yeah well like vitamins aren't so like that's fair I think that there's a lot of things that are like i don't know touted as being yeah it's like is it legitimate yeah if it's approved by the fda because we know vitamins work yeah but they don't work in a way that can be tested in like a controlled environment like because everybody's that's fair you know what i mean so yeah when they are fda wildly differently yeah hmm so fascinating anyway so that's my that's my breaking boobs um my thoughts are a question for you which is kind of random and not related to this um what's your go-to airplane movie what do you like to watch on the plane is there one that you are always like oh i want to watch this no but you know what i do always want to watch on

the planes is um friends i always want to watch crazy rich asians i still haven't seen it it's a great plane movie the first time i watched it was on a plane okay i was crying on the plane i think i cried three times i was also going through a breakup oh so i was like yeah yeah um every time i yeah i don't think i've watched crazy rich asians on a normal size screen okay honest i do feel like if you've watched something for the first time on a plane it automatically becomes a plane movie yeah yeah and i know i'm not the only one who feels that way so it's either crazy rich asians or like one of the lord of the rings movies i don't know lord of the rings is just a great plane movie it's so long maybe that's why yeah that's it's long enough that you're like

oh i'm i'm landing yeah oh my god i'm here yeah just halfway through the first one um well then you have something that you can watch on the way back that's true that's such that's such a good strategy the bummer is is you know if you're using like the airplanes like their movie thing you know they have like a movie app or website yeah sometimes they don't have the director's cut of Lord of the Rings no something about the director's cut I can't even say it hits different because I don't know if I would be able to I haven't seen Lord of the Rings enough to know what is what is director's cut and what is not that makes sense the director's cut is like substantially longer well the trick is to have a man near you who can tell you this is the

director's cut uh-huh did you know when they were filming this blah blah blah men do love a directors could i also love that men just know little facts about a movie and it doesn't i that's one of the things that i could say like i appreciate that about about all men you know that they know a little fact about a movie and i like when they tell me that fact so progressive of you live i didn't say i liked men okay don't i just said i like don't get twisted i like when they teach me something sometimes which is rare my yeah and a lot of the time the thing is about a movie my dad will read when we're watching a movie and for some reason it's always when it's a movie that i really want him to watch and pay attention to he goes on the wikipedia and starts like learning

little factoids about it and he'll like tell everyone during the movie and i'm just like you can do that after the movie your dad and i have that in common it's so crazy i i always i always recognize voices i'm pretty good at it um especially if i'm watching like a cartoon i'm like that is an actor's voice and i recognize it from this thing and i can find it wow okay let us pop off I have special ears yeah I mean I'd say they're very small yeah they can hear people's thoughts that's actually a very good segue into my my little game is it how to hear thoughts no but it's um it's it's uh adjacent okay this is the game that I have come up with I was thinking like first of all I wanted to play a game today so I scrounged this together within the time you

got here to now and the game that i came up with was how how much money would you pay to do x oh and i'm a little stingy so well i'm so i think it's difficult to be like okay i'd pay like 100 for that so i'm going to ask you and then i'm going to give you a range of of dollar amount like would you pay a million dollars to do this and then i'm going to keep going down until you like hit a place you would pay okay okay and i mean we're going to play this like we had all have all the money in the world I like this yeah okay I love pretending I have a lot of money stupid money yeah I do that every day and that's why I'm in the position I'm in okay and that's why I'm employed I asked chat GPT for some help because again I scrounged this together 10 minutes

ago but I like what they've provided okay and so today chat GPT is a girl because of her she's when she gives me good ideas she's a she okay how much money would you pay to make your ex fall madly in love with you again just so you can ghost them i'm gonna start at a million dollars no i'm feeling like i need to go way down to forty thousand dollars no not even that pay for my ex to fall in love with me again so i could go so that you can like break his heart i don't want to talk to them okay there is a reason that they are my ex okay and it's because i want to forget that that was a part of my life it's like that ariana grande song um thank you next i i mean thank you but not that one it's like the newer one um

i i meant to send it to you describe it to me because i know it it's the new song that is like i i don't want you back but like remembering you just feels like a a dream i'm gonna read some of the lyrics to you did i dream the whole thing was it was i just a nightmare different dimension stuck in the twilight zone does she know you're not who you say you say you are because I might give her a call or was it just not me at all and it's not like I'm still not over you it's so strange this I never do not that I miss you I don't sometimes I just can't believe you happened damn it's true yeah yeah it's not like I'd never I'd ever change a thing because I'm here I'm right here where I'm meant to be it's true it's like I can't like do you feel that way about any of your

exes when you think back to your relationship with them are you like that feels like it was someone else's life that literally is how I feel when I think about my past relationships I'm like oh I can't believe that I dated that person I'm so different now you don't know and like interestingly and I mean like there are some people that I dated where I was like what the fuck was I thinking but it was still a version of me like it doesn't feel like it was a different person doing that I feel so ashamed really yeah and then I'm like why was I in that relationship and like why i knew like even if i knew deep down in my gut it wasn't like the right relationship i still wouldn't leave and then like remembering like what kind of person they were i'm just like

what was i fucking thinking like these people didn't share any of my values they treated me poorly i was they made me a like not my best self too yeah you know yeah you're both just being reactive to each other anyways i would pay zero dollars because i want them to stay where they belong in hell all right okay see that's good to know but like some people that i was like obsessed with that turned me down yeah i feel like i would walk a little bit different in that era of my life if i turned them down okay do you see what i'm saying yeah yeah i get what you're saying so i would pay if i had unlimited money i'd pay like 25 000 a pop okay i like this one how much money would you pay to switch bodies with mr liz during sex for science we're gonna start we're gonna start

the bidding at a million dollars I have unlimited money yeah I'd pay a million okay let's fucking do it hell yeah okay that's pocket change for actually you know what this is the better way to play this game I feel like is we have a bank of five million we have a bank of five million yeah okay um then I guess I would pay less than a million okay 800k maybe less 700k I was thinking more maybe like five okay yeah half a mil yeah okay yeah sick i mean honestly maybe maybe even less i'd probably drop a milli on it and i feel like like i feel like i'd feel good about that because i'm just a little curious like not specifically like switching bodies with frank yeah so i'm like we'd switch bodies yeah just to know what it feels

like i don't know if i want to see what i look like you know what i mean i don't i don't need the image of what I look like while I'm being penetrated you know I don't want to see it I kind of want to see it I want to continue I mean I guess that's what like making a sex tape yeah that's what I was just thinking I just don't want to have to I want to be able to experience enjoying it without thinking about what I look like yeah you know yeah I already get so in my head that if I could I would just have headphones on the whole time okay it helps me dissociate yeah or not dissociate that sounds bad no it helps me it helps the internal monologue stop okay yeah word anyways all right do you want to unpack that I'm like I want to know I want to

know what it's like to have sex as as someone with a penis because that sounds interesting i want to compare what it feels like yeah yeah um that's how i feel yeah but i want to know specifically me imagine having your genitals just out yeah and not tucked away nicely like a little coin purse like i can't imagine that like you're just hanging out like genitals are just out you're just you just it's what is it doing when you're running just swinging back forth like a grandfather clock so you're now 500 000 in the hole okay i am a million and 25 000 in the hole okay 50 000 in the hole because it was 25 a pop and there are two people whose hearts i would love to break okay oh okay how much would you pay to see a powerpoint presentation of

your ex's entire browser history during your relationship oh my god i looked through my ex's shit so I know I mean yeah I looked through my ex's shit and I was like is this guy a pedophile yeah and I wonder if I had a little more time what you would have uncovered yeah I guess maybe that's a blessing yeah um I don't know I think you and I have maybe different mindsets because I'm like you know what I don't want to know yeah I feel like I've always been this kind of person like if you were I guess you've been cheated on and found out would you wish that do you ever wish that you hadn't found out no you you're glad that you knew yes sometimes I'm like I don't think I want to know I don't think I want to be carrying around that trauma I would rather our relationship

just end because it probably would inevitably you know I guess that's true yeah I wouldn't always have that mindset one time I asked Mr. Liz well because I was thinking about that I was like would I want to know because I saw someone else maybe on Reddit I don't know someone was like I wish I didn't know that because it like fucked me up that's interesting I wish we could have just broken up and i didn't have to know that um and i was like honestly yeah i'm like i don't do i want to deal with the trauma of that and bring it into another relationship where you're like oh my ex did this and they were cheating on me and there's always tiktoks where people are like my man would never and then i the their man starts nevering like they've never before

you know so I just I just like don't want that to be me yeah yeah but I asked I was thinking about that and I was like I asked Mr. Liz like if you cheated on me would you tell me and then he doesn't even entertain that shit and I was asking from the perspective of like would he tell me because I don't know if I'd want to know and then he's just like I would never cheat on you hell yeah right answer he's literally always like i've anytime i've asked like cheating related questions and that's weird to say because i'm not like are you cheating on me will you cheat on me i know if it's just a topic of conversation he's like well i would never cheat on you and then the way the way he says it to me too he's like it's like he's annoyed it's like i would never cheat on you

and i genuinely i genuinely believe he would not good yeah like just break up with me that's you don't need to cheat on me you don't need to be in a relationship yeah if you're the kind of person to cheat and if it's that easy to cheat on me just break up with me yeah i don't know that's so real you see i feel like i i don't like i wouldn't want to go back and not know because my intuition was telling me that he was and so that is really reaffirming i guess that's yeah you i think it is almost worse though when someone makes you doubt your intuition oh absolutely everybody thought i was fucking nuts i don't know if i've told this story when i we were having sex once and his bed was hitting against his wall and it was the first time we

had had sex in his new room and his bed was hitting against his wall and he knew to pull it away from the wall to make it stop and in that moment i was like he's fucked in this bed in this room oh shit and i told my roommates that and they were like you're fucking crazy and i was i was right i because i don't think i would have thought of that oh i was fucking crazy i was like to straight up okay that maybe this will sound bad but like at that age when you're in college you're kind of fucking stupid so like at that age if like you cheated on someone just by making out with someone at the bar yeah i feel like that's not that serious but straight up fucking another person is crazy. Yeah, another few people.

Crazy. That's insane to me. Yeah. Well, because I mean, yeah, when you're drunk and stupid and in your 20s and you go make out with someone else, I'm not saying it's like completely forgivable, but I'm also saying like you weren't gonna

you probably weren't gonna marry that person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, true. Dark things happen in dark bars when you're blacked out in 20. It was like, it just feels like there are like moments like that where I found out that I was right about shit has made me trust myself so much more moving forward so for that reason I don't regret finding out um ever since

I was a kid like you know that question like if you could have any superpower what would it be I would always say I want to read people's minds and all like every adult was like you don't want that like you that's the worst thing that like you don't want it but and I've never understood why like I would love to read people's minds I do not want to know what people are thinking yes I've I've I don't want to and that's a lot of people feel that way and I've always been like the kind of person that's just like well I'll have thoughts that are like I know are not very nice but I'm I know they're not nice and I'm just like I shouldn't think that yeah yeah yeah you know yeah you can't unthink it that's true I think no one needs to be in in here I don't even want

to be in here I would like a break yeah I feel that I would pick teleporting that's a good one I would I think now I would choose um stopping time because I feel like you could you could beat any other superpower if you were like you wanted to sleep yeah or you needed a little extra time to like put on your makeup or if somebody's like about to kill you just like luckily that hasn't happened to me yet yeah but if you were a superhero yeah that's true could stop a lot of bad things from happening exactly if i was on the plane 9-11 wouldn't have happened i didn't say that do you know who said that no mark walberg oh yeah oh my god to stop 9-11 that is the craziest that is so out of pocket i really was i think someone else said

it too like another fucking celebrity seth mcfarlane was supposed to be on that plane are you serious yeah he like crazy he like overslept or like he falls asleep at the gate or something crazy like that yeah he's like the only person that's been able to like prove it you know how there's so many people like i would be projectile vomiting she was late to work in the twin towers that day there's so it's so weird how many people insert themselves into like the tragedy of 9-11 yeah it's like a i don't know i listened to a podcast about a bunch of people who lied about that yes there was a video on youtube about this woman who pretended she was a victim of she was in the twin towers and she wasn't like anywhere near it

insane um you know how i sent you a video of that guy with the apple goggles on and he's like or like vr goggles and he's pretending that he's iron man and he's like jarvis make it bounce know when did you send me that months ago okay but I started writing my own Jarvis incredible and I had texted you about it too you did oh what the fuck I don't know you were doing something you never acknowledged it okay um and I was like I absolutely think it would be funny I absolutely would have if I had registered it so I don't think I ever registered that you sent those okay um I have I have about three I wrote five but only three of them I think are really funny okay Jarvis give him goat legs like Mr. Tumnus could Jarvis do that Jarvis make it the

girth of my wrist Jarvis give him fairy wings oh I like that make it the girth of my wrist is a crazy that's that is so that is out of pocket that's crazy if i saw someone's penis that was the girth of my wrist i would be like you need to leave get the fuck out yeah that would be a little daunting i could not receive you i mean i have a pretty small wrist so i feel like honestly that feels you do too that's not that girthy this would be a wide dick okay i'm gonna do an experiment next time i'm fucking hold still yeah i need to see if it's the girth of my wrist not my forearm okay that's a lot bigger yeah that would be that would be a problem maybe it is the girth of my wrist yeah because if it's like this yeah maybe a little smaller i don't know

okay everyone tell us the girth of you know what close your eyes and feel your wrist no feel your wrist if i did a reach around how would my hands clasp around it no i'm thinking like forget it's your wrist does this girth feel correct i mean it feels a little my fingers are straining okay or more strained than i feel like they would normally be i want to feel your wrist it's you have a smaller wrist than me i have a tiny wrist but you have a really tiny wrist damn girl yeah i mean those are some girthy wrists yeah some big dicks thank you

you know what they say about girls with big wrists they fuck big legs girls with big grists fuck big dicks the other two that i wrote aren't as funny um jarvis increase cake by 30 i like that one jarvis put him in booty shorts make a clap thank you yeah no that was that i honestly they should put you on the team for the next iron man movie jarvis okay so we have a a topic that is related to something we were talking about last week yes with the take it down act so um i want to give a shout out to taylor lorenz once again because i subscribed to her newsletter and this was just one of the links at the bottom of her newsletter so she'll have like the body of it will have a story that she wrote and then um

she'll also cite like other articles she read that week um and have just like a brief description of them so this one is about mr deep fakes which is it was the biggest distributor of um deep fake pornography i'm pretty sure yeah yeah that's i mean that's what uh and i want to read the article i'm going to read the full article from bellingcat.com um and it's titled unmasking mr deep fakes canadian pharmacist linked to world's most notorious deep fake porn site this article is a result of a collaboration with tech debt denmark's fact-checking media outlet danish newspaper politikin and the canadian broadcasting corporation cbc and cbc has a documentary about it and maybe i'll watch that when i get home just some light some light fun yeah fun news before bed yeah

mr deep fakes build itself as the largest and most user-friendly platform for celebrity deep fake pornography the website which was visited millions of times every month hosted almost 70,000 explicit and sometimes violent videos which had collectively been viewed more than 2.2 billion times they show mostly famous women whose faces have been inserted into hardcore porn with artificial intelligence and without their consent in the background an active community of more than 650 000 members shared tips on how to generate this content commissioned custom deep fakes and posted misogynistic and derogatory comments about their victims for years the website has been shrouded in secrecy existing in a legal gray area and concealing the identity of those who control

it until now bellingcat in collaboration with danish outlets tech debt there's a little j in there tech debt politican and the canadian broadcasting corporation has conducted an investigation to reveal the identity of a key administrator behind mr deep fakes david doe is a 36 year old canadian pharmacist who based on open source information lives an unassuming and respectable life in the suburbs outside of toronto photos and videos posted online show him with family friends and colleagues the university graduate has a well-paying job in a public hospital and drives a new tesla but doe has been living a double life in secret he is the most prominent figure identified to have had control over the administration of mr deep fakes

he was also an influential member of its growing online community producing his own deep fake porn and assisting users who want to make their own online posts show doe is a technically minded individual with a long-standing interest in creating and distributing adult content and provide an insight into efforts to obfuscate his identity obfuscate i love learning a new word we identified doe by cross-referencing data from massive credential leaks which are publicly available via breach databases a series of burner emails ip addresses repeated usernames and unique password reveal a more than decade-long digital trail that allowed researchers to link him to mr deep fakes i'm like where do i sign up for that job i know i was about to say i'd be so good

at this like if there's been anything good that's come out of like data breaches oh yeah it's getting this guy caught bellingcat tech debt politican and cbc have sent doe multiple yeah multiple requests for comments since late march but did not receive a response as a publication last month the cbc hand-delivered correspondence to doe setting out the findings of this investigation but he declined to comment honestly smart yeah he needs he needs like a person to do that for him shortly after doe's facebook page and the social media accounts of some family members were deleted doe then traveled to portugal with his family according to reviews posted on airbnb only returning to canada this week they let him back in boo on sunday the mr deepfake site

was shut down a critical service provider has terminated service permanently a notice on the platform says we will not be relaunching any website claiming this is fake cbc approached david doe again on monday but he refused to answer questions about his involvement with mr deep fakes i don't want to be recorded please he said i have to go i'm busy right now oh you don't want to be recorded without your consent oh that's too bad oh fake it till you make it the identity of the person or people in control of mr deep fakes has been the subject of media interest since the website emerged in the wake of a ban on the deepfakes reddit community in early 2018 but the porn sites hosting providers have bounced around the globe and premium memberships can

be bought with cryptocurrency which have made it virtually impossible to trace ownership the mr deepfake logo is a cartoon that resembles u.s president donald trump holding a mask source mr deepfakes that's a screenshot that's the ugliest logo i've ever seen in my life i think it's kind of no don't no i i think it's like perfect for this fucked up website you think so it should be donald trump i mean absolutely donald trump should be the face of the worst thing to happen yeah you're right you're right adam dodge the founder of end tab and technology enabled abuse said mr deepfakes was an early adopter of deep deep fake technology that targets women He said it had evolved from a video sharing platform to a training ground and marketplace for creating and trading in AI powered sexual abuse material of both celebrities and private individuals.

Our digital world is really good at empowering people who want to do harm by allowing them to remain anonymous while simultaneously making it almost impossible for victims to unmask them. he said in january bellingcat in collaboration with the german youtube channel strug strg underscore f examined the companies behind two apps used for creating deepfakes that it advertised predominantly prominently on its home page for this investigation researchers conducted a forensic analysis of the forums on mr deepfakes website the forums are virtually are the forums are a virtual marketplace where members commission deepfakes and trade tips on making videos with the same technology that is used for creating revenge porn videos posted to the tube sites are described strictly as celebrity content but forum posts include nudified images of private

individuals forum members referred to victims as bitches and sluts and some argued that the women's behavior invited the distribution of sexual content featuring them that's fucked up you exist you exist as a woman in the world and there's pictures of you online you deserve to be sexually exploited against your consent users who requested deep fakes of their wife or partner were directed to message creators privately and communicate on other platforms such as telegram why telegram needs to get shut down yeah nothing good is happening on telegram um wife and partner are in quotations so we can safely presume that these were not individuals that they were probably in a relationship with or like obviously there were people who did not consent to having like

nude photos of themselves artificially created um a search of the forums returned two accounts for mr deepfakes staff members one joined in march 2019 and is also listed as a moderator the other joined in february 2018 and is also listed as an administrator two additional administrator accounts created in 2018 and 2021 were not listed as staff members and one now defunct account previously tagged as staff and moderator was created in the year after the site was set up therefore the focus of this investigation was the oldest account in the forums with a user id of one in the source code which was also the only profile found to hold the joint titles of staff member and administrator the longtime handle used by this account was dpfks which is deepfakes

without any vowels researchers began by analyzing the profile the deepfakes bio contained little identifying information but an archive from 2021 shows the account had posted 161 videos which had amassed more than 5 million views it earned the badge of verified video creator forum posts document deepfakes involvements as a creator and leader in the community archives show deepfakes posted an in-depth guide to using software that creates deep fake porn published website rules and content guidelines advertised for volunteers to work as moderators and gave technical advice to users deep fakes post carried the tagline fake it till you make it oh my fucking god like you're not gonna fuck rihanna buddy in 2019 archive in a 2019 archive in replies to users on the site's

chat box deep fakes said they were dedicated to improving the platform there there is a reason why we are the biggest deep fake site i care about the community and teaching others wow so noble of you i don't think other site owners care enough to make their own deep fakes and keep up to date with it my first few deep fakes were shit too the more you make the better you get don't give up on your dreams everyone legitimate online platforms take measures to protect users personal information but data breaches are common and can affect anyone from the average user to senior u.s government officials in this case data breaches allowed researchers to link email accounts that had been reused across porn sites where's which is pirated content um where's forums and server

admin platforms to to a key operator of mr deepfakes central to the findings was one email account deepfakescom at gmail.com that was used in the contact us link on the footer of mr deep fakes official forums in archives from 2019 and 2020 this is some of the best fucking investigative work i've ever read i know and they did it with like all public information using breach data researchers linked this gmail address to the alias asian rico it's spelled azn this alias appears to to consist of a known abbreviation for asian and the spanish word for rich or sometimes sexy the inclusion of asian suggests that the user was of asian descent which was confirmed for through further research on one site a forum post shows that asian rico posted about their

adult tube site which is a shorthand for a porn video website the asian rico alias was frequently associated with a personal hotmail address in david doe's full name which appears in leaks alongside uh this username 22 times that's also something that I've done before I've googled like exes and whatever I've googled their usernames or like known usernames because other things will show up yeah and you can see I found a dating profile from when they went out of town yeah this was after we broke up too though so I was kind of like damn if you cheated on me i'm not surprised um researchers also uncovered a cryptocurrency trading account for asian rico later that later changed its username to uh die david david doe d-u-y the analysis showed that

mr deepfake's gmail address was used to register a profile on a separate porn website this profile used a unique 11 character password which was also used across other accounts including a profile on the ashley madison dating website that was registered with doe's personal hotmail address i know who the fuck a search of the unique password in breach databases returned 17 results linked to other email addresses that included doe's full name further searches of doe's hotmail account led to more leaks that displayed his date of birth the hotmail account was also linked to a residential address in ontario which public records show is the location of a house owned by doe's parents this email was also used to register a yelp account for a user named david

d who lives in the greater toronto area real real quick i love that this article if y'all go and read the article as you scroll down it shows you the tree of how all this information came together and how it's all connected it's really interesting this is such a this is a side note and i was going to wait till the end to say this but this is such an amazingly done article it uses like multi-forms media the storytelling is very like precise this is a beautiful piece of journalism yes and it goes into great detail about the investigation into finding this person's identity yeah um anyways let's continue doe has never publicly acknowledged operating mr deepfakes but a single email address published by the porn site formed the basis of a digital trail that led us to usernames passwords

and other email accounts which overlap with his personal and professional data since 2008 and then there's a picture of him that was shared on either Instagram or Facebook and these account handles have been blurred and I think it's you know it's because like these other accounts that have posted David's picture like they're not associated with this so they shouldn't be like doxxed um yeah describe what he looks like he i said this to liz when she first sent me the article it's terrifying that these men are just amongst us because he is the most unassuming looking dude like he's just like a normal he looks just like a normal he just looks like your regular pharmacist yeah he looks like somebody that would be dispensing your drugs yeah you wouldn't think

that they're the ultimate fucking gooner yeah you know yeah um pirated movies to deep fake porn david doe keeps a low profile under his own name but photos of him have been published on the social media accounts of his family and employer he also appears in photos and on the guest list for a wedding in ontario and in a graduation video from university i know i need to shake these people's hands doe's airbnb profile displayed glowing reviews from trips to canada the u.s and europe doe and his partner's airbnb accounts were deleted after cbc approached him on monday his home address as well as the address of his parents house have both been blurred on google street view a privacy feature that is available on request and then it has a collection

of the few pictures they were able to gather of him and they're so like unassuming like they're from like far away and like they're like pixelated it's crazy in the late 2000s while studying at university doe is involved in the creation of zenoa zenoa.net awares forum doe's personal hotmail address which includes his full name is visible in source code and as an admin contact for the site archives from 2008 show the profile page ddoe is tagged as the root admin and ziana owner and lists a date of birth matching that of doe the profile includes download links to television shows, one of which was accompanied by a comment about exam week in 2009 when Doe was studying at university. This username is also similar to Doe's Instagram profile,

d.doe.jpg, which is now deleted, a link to which was included in the bio section of his Facebook account under the name Doe Dave. Both social media accounts have been deleted. An account on an internet marketing forum was registered using a zenoa administrator email address breach data shows that account was linked to an ip address owned by the university of waterloo where doe earned degrees in biomedical science in 2010 and pharmacy in 2014 according to rocket reach the 2015 ashley madison data breach shows user d doe 88 registered on the dating site with doe's hotmail address and was listed as an attached male seeking females in toronto brief pause how would you feel if you found out your partner was running the biggest deep fake porn

website and then also fucking signed up for ashley madison i mean like i just feel like i would feel so scared especially if there were no signs like i wasn't like picking up on anything in like like the air because that because that's like a psychopath if you're able to like hide all of this shit you're running an entire double life yeah i would probably get a restraining order just like for my own protection because this person is capable of some really well i'd be like what the fuck do you have of me then yeah anyways they describe themselves as being of asian ethnicity 173 centimeters tall and weighing 66 kilograms i'm american so i don't know what that means the breach profile was linked to a toronto-based address and also contained a date of birth which

matches doe's birth date in public records zenoa would become the springboard for a more sophisticated operation in february 2018 when doe was working as a pharmacist reddit banned its almost 90 000 strong deepfake community after introducing new rules prohibiting involuntary pornography in the same week mr deepfake's predecessor site deepfakes.com which is dpfks.com was launched according to an archived channel log an analysis of the now defunct domain shows the two sites share google analytics tags and back-end software as well as a forum admin who use the handle deepfakes archives from 2018 and 2019 show the two sites redirecting or linking to each other in a sense deleted mr deepfakes forum post deepfakes confirms the link between the two

sites and promises the new platform is here to stay mr deepfakes.com was formerly the vowel list deepfakes.com and we opened our doors shortly after the reddit ban in 20 the 2018 post said i know joining a new forum or community feels like starting fresh and starting over but the community is small and all the important players will stick together i promise to keep this community running as long as i can so that the deep fake community does not have to scramble and relocate again i just you know i'm all about community but not everyone deserves community go the fuck outside yeah talk to someone in real life i don't know pet a dog yeah feel the feel the wind on your face get a life yeah later in 2018 in a post on vote the defunct online message

board similar to reddit deepfakes said they own and run mr deepfakes in response to another user deepfakes referred to their life outside of operating a porn website i just got home from my day job the post said now back to this imagine your your man comes home and immediately sits down on his computer to start working on fucking deepfake porn one of deepfakes first posts on the mr deepfakes forum was a link to a deepfake video of a video game streamer pokey main do you know who pokey main is yeah that doesn't surprise me at all she's like so overly sexualized by her community i know it's so fucked up sad other targets included the american politician alexandria ocasio-cortez who for whom deepfakes shared a folder containing more than 6 000 images

that could be used to create deepfake pornography before it shut down this week mr deepfakes hosted 125 graphic videos tagged with ocasio-cortez that had collectively received more than 5.3 million views after discovering that she had been transposed into a deepfake porn video last year ocasio-cortez told rolling stone that digitizing violent humiliation was akin to physical rape and sexual assault. Another target of deepfakes was American YouTube personality Gibby ASMR who gained popularity with her ASMR videos. Deepfakes created and shared pornographic deepfakes of the YouTuber on the Mr. Deepfakes forum. In a statement published by Equality Now in 2021 she said they're running this business profiting off my face doing something that I didn't consent to

like my suffering is your livelihood. It made me really mad but again there was nothing I could do so i just had to leave it in 2018 deepfakes posted a two-minute deepfake video of an academy award-winning american actress with the description name omitted doesn't do porn but this fake video she is completely naked with her legs spread in the air watch her face while she struggles to take it forum posts under various aliases match those found in breaches linked to doe or the mr deepfakes gmail address they show this user was troubleshooting platform issues recruiting designers writers developers and search engine optimization specialists and soliciting offshore services the username asianrico was commonly associated with doe's email account and could be found across

several postings online in 2009 years before mr deepfakes was launched this now banned user posted to an internet marketing forum discussing online money making techniques including the monetization of video traffic asianrico also posted an auto lighting forum in 2019 to ask for advice about fixing headlights for a car in canada a 2006 mitsubishi lancer rail rail art what a piece of shit just like you in another thread on the same forum asian rico uploaded several images of the car one of which was archived and contained metadata indicating that it was captured on a sony ericsson k850i um in 20 in 2008 on a separate forum asian rico said he had this model phone and posted about troubleshooting the device that forum was subject to data breach exposing david

doe's personal hotmail address and unique password damn this dude has a fucking footprint yeah well and i think that the extent of this footprint like shows that no matter what you do you are not going to be able to erase your digital footprint right and i hope more shit like this starts to happen because i'm sure it will as more of us become educated with like the back end of technology um and the more it becomes accessible um i think that more information like this will come to the forefront yes public records obtained by cbc confirm that doe's father is the registered owner of a red 2006 mitsubishi lancer rail art while doe's parents house is now blurred on google maps the car is visible in the driveway in two images from 2009 and in apple maps

imagery from 2019 cbc confirmed the car was still at the house last week in 2011 on a freelance job board asian rico asked for help building a video streaming plugin this profile also listed the user was based in the same ontario city where doe's parents home is located in 2018 the same year mr deepfakes was launched asian rico asked for advice to fix slow load times on their porn site which they said received about 15 000 to 20 000 visitors a day breach data shows this account was linked to doe's personal hotmail address in one forum post from january 2020 user dj01039 complains that paypal had limited their stealth account which was used to sell virtual goods paypal was intermittently available as a payment option on mr deepfakes the username dj01039

matches the abbreviation of an email address davidjames01039 at gmail.com that was linked to a paypal donation button on mr deepfakes in december 2019 i don't want to say like oh that's the smoking gun but there's so many smoking guns oh yeah in june 2020 on another forum a user with the same alias who later changed it to ac2124 said their stealth account had been permanently closed and wanted to know about front companies that could accept payments on their behalf the user described themselves as the webmaster of an adult tube site who takes a cut from creators who post original porn videos and also earns revenue from running ads by december 2020 ac2124 said their website was earning between four thousand and seven thousand dollars a month i think another

thing that is especially fucked up about like deep fake porn like this they're taking hardcore porn videos that already exist so that create those creators are already not getting paid yeah and then they're also exploiting yeah celebrities who are also not getting paid and didn't consent in april 2024 dutch outlet algemeen dagblad reportedly made contact with the owner of mr deepfakes who was anonymized in their subsequent reporting ad reported that this person claimed to have sold the website but did not provide any evidence to support this claim our investigation could not confirm whether the site was ever sold and if so when david doe did not respond to multiple requests for comment about his involvement with mr deepfakes absolutely fucking insane i love

this so much and i really hope that journalism continues to go in this direction because it's like it feels like up until this point it's been like a breach of privacy and like oh we have to like make sure that we're like the ethics in our journalism are like being taken into account but it's like for this kind of shit like this guy doesn't welcome this is the last person that deserves any sort of like ethical treatment yeah i really hope that the people who are victims of this or discover that they're victims of this like legally go after david they absolutely will i also hope that the investigators of this um article like were able to track down who else participated in this i don't know maybe there's gonna be some other kind of data breach of

who had a an account on this website yeah i wonder what what it's like now that it's like taken down if that information i mean the way back machine is so powerful so who knows maybe they are still able to access that kind of thing but i mean it's really it feels like up until this point and i think somebody was even quoted the the asmr creator was like there's nothing i can do so what the fuck can that like i just have to kind of take it but now it's like oh there's actually somebody to point to and be like you did this to me yeah and now and there's laws yeah yeah i love that he's like i don't want to be on camera like you fucking piece of shit yeah oh there's so sad womp womp i'm so sorry oh you don't oh you're not consenting

that must suck i yeah i am really appreciative of the journalists who took all the time to investigate this to discover the identity of this person to write this beautiful article and i'm also thankful that we do have like now a newly passed law and it'll be interesting to see how it's implemented um but i overall think that like this is the reason why there needs to be more regulation in place yeah regarding i mean especially regarding ai uh-huh because for how many for all of the people that are going to do good things with it like there's always going to be people who are going to do bad things and it's important to think of those things yes and the fact that like ai is so relatively new like if this shit's already happening in the first

like blip of time that this is existing what else is going to be happening i remember listening to a podcast i think it was an npr podcast um that was talking about the progression of ai in like 2016 and when we were listening to it like um i was in a car with a group of people and then we like pulled up the video it was referencing and it was like um a deep fake of obama but it was like so long ago that it was like not at all believable it didn't look good and then they had in in the podcast episode they were talking about the potential problems that this could cause with misinformation in the future and it is fascinating to be here 10 years later and to remember that listening to that podcast and seeing what is happening and watching different groups of

people like fall victim to believing false news that is literally like not real yeah literally made up yes yeah with ai it's really scary like the the power of because like you just said like deep fakes used to be so fucking bad and now they're so good like you can't tell the difference a lot of the time ai videos are different because they're a little uncanny you know like you can like yeah that person doesn't like that looks a little what's going on with their face well and one way to like i mean even though even video ai is starting to get better yes like learning we were talking about the like avatars i i can't remember if it was through cap cut or what but they're like the avatars that are talking head oh yeah and if you like they do look off but if you

make them small and they have something going on in the background of the video you're more likely to believe that that's a real person and this is real information because that's what i saw at first when I was like what the fuck like I was listening and watching and I was like something isn't right but I was only half paying attention and then I watched it again I'm looking at the comments because I'm like is anybody else noticing that this isn't fucking real yeah and then there were no comments about it and I was like what the hell is going on yeah and then um finally I saw another creator making a video about this feature with with these avatars that are believable and I mean they look like they're walking outside it's it's crazy there's a creator I don't remember his

name and i should remember it he's so fucking great he did this like he like played the long game of like posting some videos on his page he has like five million subscribers um that were had little pieces of ai in them to see if his audience would notice and every time he got away with it he would like up the stakes a little bit on it and like include more or like so he started out with like an ai script and then at the end it was like ai him yeah i watched a video where a girl was she's like guess what's AI in this video yeah she's like pointing out the different things that are AI and it's it's crazy it's very good yes it is really scary I mean like there are some things that can be cool of like oh yeah if you have maybe like an ugly picture where you want to change

like for my job there was a picture that I took that I wanted to post um for our company but there was a photographer in the front and then there was like a weird like speaker thing and i sent it to our designer and i was like is there something you can do with this and she just used the photoshop like ai feature yeah yeah and it just replaced it with like it blended it in with what i was taking a picture of dude facetune does that like it's like we have such powerful technology that we pay like two bucks a month for it's crazy and so yeah like you're saying there are ways that it could be used like for good but then you know these things that when i see ai and marketing and it's really obvious too i'm like this should be fucking illegal yes agreed like when it's

straight up just like not a real product yeah person yeah i don't know all right on that positive note would you like to sing us out um yeah i'm trying to think of how i want to start thank you so much thank you give her a grammy Oh, yeah.