The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler - 339: Shapel Lacey's Survival Guide to Grandma Guilt

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

My HoneyDew this week is comedian Shapel Lacey! Check out Shapel’s latest special, Three Dads, Two Moms, now on his YouTube. Shapel joins me to Highlight the Lowlights of grief, guilt, and the complicated nature of family after losing a loved one. Opening up about his grandma’s recent passing, Shapel and I dive into what it’s like to navigate emotions that don’t always make sense. We also get into the importance of breaking generational cycles, and the role empathy and education play in making that possible. BALTIMORE! I’m coming home! Catch me at the Horseshoe Casino on Saturday, June 28—one night only with special guest Justin Schlegel! Grab your tickets now! http://tixr.com/pr/ryan-sickler/142608 SUBSCRIBE TO MY YOUTUBE and watch full episodes of The Dew every toozdee! https://youtube.com/@rsickler SUBSCRIBE TO MY PATREON - The HoneyDew with Y’all, where I Highlight the Lowlights with Y’all! Get audio and video of The HoneyDew a day early, ad-free at no additional cost! It’s only $5/month! AND we just added a second tier. For a total of $8/month, you get everything from the first tier, PLUS The Wayback a day early, ad-free AND censor free AND extra bonus content you won't see anywhere else! http://patreon.com/RyanSickler What’s your story?? Submit at [e-mail] Get Your HoneyDew Gear Today! https://shop.ryansickler.com/ Ringtones Are Available Now! https://www.apple.com/itunes/ http://ryansickler.com/ https://thehoneydewpodcast.com/ SUBSCRIBE TO THE CRABFEAST PODCAST https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-crabfeast-with-ryan-sickler-and-jay-larson/id1452403187 SPONSORS: Cure Hydration -Go to https://www.curehydration.com/HONEYDEW and use code HONEYDEW for 20% off your first order!

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The Honeydew y'all. We're over here doing it in the night pan studios. I'm Ryan Sickler, RyanSickler.com, Ryan Sickler on all your social media. Look, we're just going to jump into it today. I promote stuff all the time, but I'm just going to say thank you guys for supporting everything we do over here. And I always say these are the stories behind the storytellers. I'm very excited to have this guest back on the honeydew. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Chappelle Lacey.

I'm here. I'm here. Highlights or lowlights. Highlights and lowlights. But before we do, please promote everything you like. Tell them about your special that's out now. Congratulations. Yeah, but a 30 minute comedy special out now on YouTube

through Don't Tell Comedy. It's called Three Dads, Two Moms. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Two True. Yeah, Two True.

Three Dads, Two Moms, Two True. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It true. Yeah. Too true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's out. I loved everything I did with it to build up for that, all that stuff. And, uh, and I have tour dates.

Um, where will I be? Chappelle Lacey.com is where you'll find that. And I'll say, I'll say a matter. I can't remember exactly right now, but, uh, yeah, yeah. I think that's all I have for right now. Where can they find you on socials and all that socials at Chappelle Lacey? Um, all your dates are there and everything. All dates are there. Every literally everything's there. I want to ask you a question. Uh, comic to comic here.

What you said a 30 minute special, do you feel the need to put a time disclaimer on it? And if so, why? I don't know. I just, I just if so, why? I don't know. I just, yeah, I don't even know why I said it. It's a special. I'm curious. I don't know. It is a special.

Yeah, I don't know why. You know, this is why, this is why. I think it's just because of that old mentality of like, we were like Comedy Central Presents, they'd be like a 30 minute special, and then like HBO or somewhere. They had a half hour on Comedy Central, then they did the hour.

Hour, yeah. But what people may not know, a lot of people are savvy enough though, but an hour on network television back then was about 44 minutes. Forty-eight roughly, yeah. And a half hour was 22 because you got the commercials and stuff. So it's neither of them are really a half hour or an hour. You're right. I know.

And the hour from HBO and those things come because there were people sitting in a room going, what the fuck can we do with this 60 minutes right here? And they create an hour. Yeah. You know what I mean? They create an hour. The show at a club is not meant for the comic. It's meant for the establishment to sell drinks, to sell food, to get their

checks paid and everything before the clowns get off the fucking stage. So what I think was in the movies, right? Anywhere. Oh yeah. I went and saw that in the theater, in the theater. So that, that was like, you saw an actual, yeah, you saw an act. You're right.

But what I'm saying is like, I saw, that's crazy. You saw that in theater in the theater, bro. And let me tell you something. I just, I didn't, I promise you, I didn't go to the white suburb theater. We went to Randall's town. Look it up. Randall's town, Maryland, Baltimore County. What's a theater off Liberty road. We were, so you guys are the only white dudes there. Listen, it was me and my friend, Matt Schilling and his mom dropped us off.

And we went in and saw, she went with us to Rocky in that theater. Rocky was wild in that theater too. Like yeah, yeah, Rocky IV to be specific. I'll never forget, cause that's what I learned, like black people like to talk in the movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's all black people and like us over here in the corner. And he was training in Russia and the aliens showed up

and they were all like, don't do it, right right you're gonna fucking try swear to god i swear i swear i never in my life i we started laughing like oh my god it's true it really is true oh my god people are laughing too they weren't even mad they were like shut the fuck up you never let the true movie, black movie experience. Telling him not to do it. Damn. You got to beat that Russian, right? So you were at all black theater for Raw. Predominantly. I'd say 80%. Yes.

For Raw, yeah. And it was wild, dude. And we were in high school. Because Eddie was like, oh. He came. When you saw him in the ridiculous leather suit and he came out, you're just like, oh my god. And it's this fucking, it's, you know, it's this fucking,

it's a movie screen, a massive, and hundreds of people in there with, and you know, it's so different to see a standup movie where everyone's loud and laughing and energy's bouncing off the walls versus Star Wars where we're all like, everybody's shut the fuck up. This is the opposite of that.

I just did that recently. So I think it's called the New Beverly Quentin Tarantino's, the theater he bought on Beverly and like La Brea or whatever. So they did a night. It was Richard Pryor live in concert. And then the next one was Eddie Murphy Rock. Now, that was like the coolest way, cause I didn't get the experience that you had.

So like, it was like, I didn't know how I was going to be in the movie there. I've never watched a comedy special in a movie theater. It was so dope. And like, like Raw, we know what Raw is, but like Richard Pryor's... 1979, you don't need to tell me one bit. I watch it yearly. Yearly.

And you know what? Every year we all get older and shit changes and every year, that's specials. It's so on point. I can tell you what I was thinking about it. How accurate is it? It is so accurate. All the shit with the police. Yes, the police.

All the shit with all of it. And like his level of vulnerability. You can drop it today and it is relevant and current today. Isn't that crazy? From 1979. I think it's the greatest Dan's special out there. I was literally gonna say it's the greatest special of all time. No doubt.

It's number one. I will say that and I mean it with all my heart. That special was, he gave you everything. Everything. Everything. Made fun of his own heart attacks and everything. Yes. Oh yeah, what he was doing. The monkey and shit.

Yeah, the monkey and. All of it. The German Shepherd. Yes. Yeah, the box. Yes, all of it. And a guy came up to take pictures and he still was like, sit the fuck down.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, he was just. So cool about it. So smooth about it. So cool. And I'm telling you, when the applause breaks, what happened in the special, people were already doing it in the theater. That's what was crazy. He would do a joke and people were like... And then it was like literally matched. It's timeless. It's crazy. It's incredible.

Incredible. That man was on a different level. He was so open and it really inspired me, especially with his three dads, two moms, because a lot of it's my life. I'm talking about a lot of things in my life, my anger issues, having this different sets of family and trying to juggle that and being the black dude that likes a bunch of white shit. You know what I mean? And that special just makes me want to open up more and more and more and more and more and just let it all out. And as a fan, we're going to get into your story.

Let me just say this too again about the time limit of these specials. I know purists and everything, it's an hour, my hour, my hour. But look, I just saw, not just, it's been a minute, but earthquake has a special hour. I want to say it's under 40 minutes. It might be like a 30, it's so fucking good. I think Chappelle produced it. Oh, it was recent.

It was like a few years ago. Yeah, not that long ago. It's so fucking good. And I, look, I leave wanting more because I love earthquake, but also earthquake didn't need to give me anymore. That motherfucker came in and throwing haymakers. You're right. And he throws haymakers.

Nonstop. And then when he gets on them, he rides them. He rides them. He's so good at tagging and jumping on and stuff. And it's so funny to where you're like, how did he think of that? Yes, it's so good. There's a story, one of the door guys at the comedy store,

he used to be a door guy, Matt Lockwood. He told me one time, there's a show going on in the main room, it was a sold out show and they had brought Earthquake up. He goes, he could tell the crowd knew, they had no clue who Earthquake was. But he said, he destroyed that room so hard. He goes to people who didn't even,

they didn't know who he was, didn't know what he was about. They were just like, who's this guy? And then he just fucking- He's absolutely one of the best. Murders, murders. Just set it on fire. So if a guy like that is gonna do it, and Chappelle's gonna produce it,

and they're not gonna say, Hey, my 38 minute special. True. Just start telling everybody you got a new special. You got a new special. You don't. New special. That's it. Angry about it.

I know, right? You are right. You are right. You are right. I'll say back to the prior thing too. Gosh, I love that special. Tom Segura did the Long Beach Convention Center a couple years ago. Which is where he filmed it, right?

Yeah. And he's like, do you want to come work with him? I was like, Tom, yes. And not just because, that's where Pryor filmed. And I think he opened for, it was either Patti LaBelle or Aretha Franklin. They opened the show. It was Patti LaBelle. Patti LaBelle opened the show. That's what I'm saying. He's going up after Patty Labelle. That's another thing. Like who wants to do that? That's crazy. Yeah. Like following a musical. Not a DJ. You know what I'm saying? Not some house music. Patty Labelle.

She probably lit that crowd on fire. Yes, yes. Probably lit them on fire. Like Richard lit himself on fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's the one that told that joke, the match and all that stuff. He told how he shot, he was shooting his car

so his wife couldn't, yeah. It's so good, dude. Oh, that was another thing too. The way he, like the way he portrayed certain things, the way he portrayed the dog and he gave them dialogue, the way he portrayed the deer. I was like, I'm still going to eat them. Yeah, yeah.

I'm still going. Life still sucks. All of it. Oh my God. It's so good. It's timeless. Listen, if you've never seen it and you're a true standup fan, you have to see it. 1979, Richard Pryor. 79. Which means it was probably shot in 78 if they had to do,

you know what I mean? Like it'd be a little older. It's crazy. Yeah. He's the, he's the greatest. He's the greatest. Um, all right. So leaning into your story, you said you relate to three dads, two moms. We know your past is certainly mixed and split and everything, but recently we were talking before and you said your grandmom passed. Yeah, it's my grandma on my mom. Yeah, so tell us. I know, I got to say which mom.

My black mom, black mom, not white mom. Okay, your biological mom. This is your biological grandma. Yeah, biological grandma. And did your biological grandma. Biological grandma. And did you have a close relationship with her at all? So it was interesting. This was like a time where I lost someone and obviously I've known her since I was a kid.

She's always been in my life, but it was just interesting because I didn't feel anything, which is crazy to say, you know what I mean? Hear me out before you, but why did you not feel anything? Anyways, sorry, I should be getting mad and shit. But anyways, yeah, it was the first time I didn't like,

feel that, and I, and I, and I felt, but I felt bad that I didn't feel what one is supposed to feel in that situation. Well, let's start here with this. Was this something you knew that was coming and she'd been sick for a long time and it was sort of expected? Yeah, yeah.

I think it was stomach cancer is what she had. And did you maybe process the grieving already and it was more of a relief that she was out of pain and stuff? You know what it was? No. I'm trying to help you. No, no, no. You're trying to help her out.

I know. You know what? It's because I didn't get... I'm telling you, this woman's been in my life, you know, my whole life. And I've been trying, and I'm still in like the area of like processing all of it, cause I need to, like, I'm one of those, you know, ever since Chip, you know, I just like dig to find

the root of it all and like find where I can be at peace with it, right? You know, cause I, yeah, I feel like guilty that I didn't feel anything, but I think it was just cause I didn't get to like learn about her and, you know, this is before like, you know, being adopted into the white family, but like I didn't get to, I didn't get this thing of her

that, you know, you would get from a grandma. You know what I mean? I wanna ask you this, why, when, why didn't she take you? Why didn't she take me? Hell no, I wasn't going there. What you talking about? To your mom's mom? Never.

Why? It just wasn't that relationship. No. There's just no way. She never wanted to step up and say hey. You know what, so, you know, she did struggle with addiction for a bit. You know what I mean?

Like she drank a lot, stuff like that. That was a big thing of hers. You know, I mean, we all stomach cancer. No, because she stopped drinking. She stopped drinking like later on in life. You know what I mean? I want to say before she passed, probably like maybe maybe she stopped in like 2013 or 2014 or something like that or whatever. So she had stopped drinking, but I mean, she did. I remember when she, because there was a point in time

where she lived with us, right? And she would get off work and I remember that she- What'd she do? I can't remember. She worked for Motorola. She used to work, remember that? Yeah. Yeah, Razors.

Razors ran our life for a while. Yeah, right. Yeah. So she Razors. Razors ran our life all right. Yeah, so she used to work for the motor roller building headquarters or whatever. But when she would get off work, she would come home and she'd have a tall can of ice house and then this little thing of pop off, vodka. Remember that pop off that you can get it at Circle K

or whatever, like the corner store or whatever. And she would just, but like, I didn't see- Like she'd chase it or she'd add it? Nah, this would just be her shit, both of them. Boom, boom. Yep, and then she'd go to sleep. And Ice House had more alcohol than the light beers did. That was the thing, yeah.

You know, and so, you know, I think the thing was, it's like, you know, there was just like, I never got to connect with her because there was this disconnect of like seeing her dude. Even though she's in the house, she had a routine and it kept her away from me. On addiction she had. Yeah, she was always nice to me and I was always nice to her. She wasn't huggy or lovey-dovey.

Never took you out one-on-one like, hey, let's go do something together. Not that I can remember. Man, I remember one time though, she used to date this one dude. I remember he spanked me and my brother one time. Yeah, bro. Hold up, bro. I remember. Grandma let a dude come in the house

and put hands on her grandchildren? Bro. Oh, my grandma would've shot people. Hey James, if you out there, I'm kicking you in your chest, bro. Fucking James. Seriously. Man.

Put your hands. Ooh. This was like when I was a kid, kid. Me and my brother. But wait, what'd you all do? What we do? No. We, so we, we were, they let us go play outside, but we, we, we just went a

little further, you can, we can still see the house. We just went a little further away from the house, you know, but you can still see it and then he got mad and he spanked me and my brother with a belt. Man. I'd never forget that. What man? I hope he's still alive. Who went first? Uh, no, I'd never forget that. Yeah, he did. A belt too? What? Man, I hope he's still alive. Who went first?

No, he attacked both of us. Same time? Yeah, he was just, you know, he just came, like it was none, like it was none chucks or whatever. He had that Bruce Lee in him, you know. And your grandma let him do that shit? Yeah, she did, but that was, those were the days. You know?

Man, I'll tell you, they were, but also, I'm older than you. I will never forget one time, my mom took us to a friend of hers' house, and they had kids that were all older than us. The youngest one was maybe two years older than us, and then it got older from there. They were already in high school

when we were in middle school. And my mom's walking past their stepfather, and she goes, if my kids don't listen, feel free to hit them. Right. And I'm looking at, and this dude looked at us and he looked at her and he said, I'm not hitting your kids, Judy. I've never forgot that, but she was dead serious. She was like, hi, I'm just walking around.

She was just like, if they don't listen, hit him. He's like, he's watering his lawn. Yeah. You're hitting your kids. Yeah. She was like, hi, I'm just fucking around. She was just like, if they don't listen, hit him. He's like, he's watering his lawn. And she's like, I ain't gonna hit you, dude. Yeah, but James, I never, I remember that day so clearly too. I said, we didn't even go that far. But anyways, so no, yeah, I think there was just such a strong disconnect.

And I, you know, like, and she passed in January. I went to her funeral and stuff, you know, and you know, I'm like, I've seen these like younger pictures of her, you know, like, and she passed in January. I went to her funeral and stuff, you know, and, you know, I was like, I've seen these like younger pictures of her, you know, like she was gorgeous, you know, gorgeous woman. And I'm just looking at these pictures and I'm just like, man, I feel bad that I didn't get to like, get that, you know what I mean? Like, I have this weird, I don't know why I have this like weird guilt to it, you know, like, you know, And I'm trying to find this balance of understanding how to come at peace with that. Because it's one thing that I feel bad. Well, that's what I want to talk about because I'm no therapist or anybody. But also, you have to

remember this, and I have to remember this myself too, is that you were a kid. You were a kid. The responsibility shouldn't have been on our shoulders, but it was. For sure. So you carry the responsibility of like, how did I fail that? What could I have done differently now that you're older? But the truth is, nothing. Nothing. Yeah, I think you're right.

And also, if you're going gonna get whooped with a belt, y'all should have gone to the lake fishing and shit. You know what I mean? Not just off the property attack. I know, yeah. We could have done way worse. Way worse, man. Me and my brother, we were crazy.

You could have took your bikes and shit. Yeah, we could have done so much worse. Man, I wanna suck that dude in the face. Was he at the funeral? No, I haven't seen him in years. I ain't seen him in a long time. But every time he would come through, I think he was with my grandma for like,

I don't know how many years, but every time he'd come through, I'd still be mean mugging him as a kid. I'm like, bro, what you looking at? I can't wait till your hip breaks. That's what I'm elbow is all about. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you got a new hip? Yeah, not as good as that other one, huh? Now that's a change of hip, right? And my brother loved wrestling.

Just fucking him up, man. Old man now, too. He's all sad, pathetic, and you just fucking him up. Let's run it back. That was the funny thing. I tell you, this is funny. So my stepdad, I used to be terrified of that man. I used to be terrified of my stepdad so bad. I mean, he was crazy, you know? And I remember, you know, there was one day I was, this is like when I was getting reconnected back

with my biological mom or whatever. And they were still together, partially, you know, they were on their way out of their relationship. And I just remember sitting at her house, looking at Jerry, and I'm looking at him, I'm like, oh, so you've been five-five this whole time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay.

Okay. I was like, I'm 220, what's good? You might be a little Tasmanian devil. Yeah, I was like, come on now. You gotta be careful, this little guy. But it was just so crazy. You never think about that, because when I'm a kid,

he's like the biggest thing in the world to me. Everything's bigger back there. You go back to an old house and you walk in, this is so much smaller. It's so much smaller than I remember. And then, yeah, seeing him sit there, I'm like, this is the dude that was running it on me? I'm like, bro, let's run it back.

Let's run it back. Let's run it back. Just three point stands. Yeah, right. You just got to do it respectfully. You got to be, let's all go play some football in the yard. You know what I mean? Yeah. Put that shoulder in that chair.

No, it was crazy. My stepdad, he's short, but he was really good at basketball. I remember you saying that. Yeah, he was good. Crazy. Break dancing and basketball. He's Prince. He's like Prince. Seriously. And they got the same skin tone, which was good. Yeah, crazy. Break dancing and basketball. He's Prince, he's like Prince.

Seriously. And they got the same skin tone, which is funny. And the same curly hair, whatever. He's the GOAT though, I love him, I love him. He's the GOAT, but yeah. But yeah, it was just funny seeing him and realizing how short he was. I'm like, man.

Let's go back to guilt. What is it you feel guilty about? You feel, is guilt really the right feeling? Do you know if that really is accurate? See that's not wrong, that's not wrong, if it's guilt or whatever, but like, I feel guilty that I don't, that I didn't feel anything. You know what I mean?

Like I remember when my, you know, when my mom told me about it or whatever, you know, and called me that day, I was just like, I just felt, I was like, am I dead on the inside? You know what I mean? Sometimes I be thinking that, you know, but sometimes it's like there's just felt, I was like, am I dead on the inside? You know what I mean? Sometimes I be thinking that, you know, but sometimes it's like there's a deeper reasoning as to why. It's not like I'm trying to feel that way. Well, if you were dead on the inside, you wouldn't be searching for all these answers and shit.

You would just accept it and zombie through life. Exactly. You wouldn't wonder one bit about what's this doing to me? Not even one level lower. You just zombie like all fucking drugged out. Yeah, and I think that makes sense because this, and I think this is why I feel it. You just made me realize something. It's because like whenever I did like all my anger outbursts and anything that I did to people,

I never felt bad afterwards. Like all the things I did. When I swung on those teachers, so, do something about it. You know, I just never felt bad about the things I like did to people. You know what I mean?

Cause everything I thought, you know, I thought that was like, you know, like, yeah, they deserved it. Yeah, they made me mad. That's, yeah. That's what you got. You feel bad now about it? Or do you just look back at it?

Some of that shit I don't. Yeah, I'll wave. I'll wave. A lot of the things, yes, 1000%, you know, I do feel bad for like a lot of the things that I did to people back in the day, but like, you know, like I said, some of those things, you know, they're gonna have to see me again. But anyways, yeah, so I think, you know, knowing that and like having that kind of

like where I never felt bad about the things that I did to people and then like having this feeling where I don't feel bad about this, it makes me like, you know, it's like, I think it just triggers back to like that time when I didn't feel bad about the things, if that makes sense. So I think that's why it's like playing with my head so much. And here's the thing, like I never looked at her like crazy or whatever, like she was lame or something like that.

It was just like nothing. You know what I mean? But this is my blood. Yeah. You know what I mean? But this is like my blood. You know what I mean? And she always said,

you know, nice things or whatever, but I just never, I guess I just, I felt bad that I didn't get the relationship that I, you know, would have wanted to, you know, like, you know, I feel that with, you know, grandparents, you know, I didn't even know my dad's, my biological dad's grandparents, but I, you know, I know, you know, from what I remember, they would bring me and my brother toys and stuff or whatever on my father's behalf, but I didn't get to know them. So being at that grandma's funeral, I didn't feel anything either. You know what I mean?

So I'm just trying not to... I don't want to feel dead on the inside. You know what I mean? Well, let me ask you this, the white family that took in, are they all alive and well? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If any of them passed away right now, do you think you'd be pretty fucking upset at their funeral?

Yeah, probably, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think it's just cause the way, the way that relationship worked out, you know what I mean? I think it's just because, cause I think, I wanna say that was the first time I ever felt like what a family was. You know what I mean?

Not that I was searching like, what does this family feel like? I thought what I was living in was just, this is life. You know what I mean? Yeah, it is your life though. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is what my life is.

Seeing this side of like, you know, you encourage each other, you're saying nice things about it, you're just taking care of each other. There's this level of comfort. You want everyone in the house to feel good. And like that, being adopted into, you know, with my white folk, that's like the feeling I got.

So I think I would, whereas like where I came from previously, I didn't feel that, you know what I mean? Like, and I try to explain like a lot of this stuff in my standup, but like the thing is, is like over time, I've been able to like, have love for, this part of the family. I've been able to feel that and stuff like that and a little bit more. How old are you now? 38. Yeah, bro. You got a minute.

Here's what I... In my opinion, counts for nothing, but here's what I think. But I love these conversations. Always good insight. I think it's about the connection you have with that person, whatever that is. And then there's times where you also cry or you mourn what could have been, what should have been. Not necessarily this person dying, but this whole relationship that should have been not necessarily the this person dying But this whole relationship that should have gone another way could have gone another way Yeah, but you're left here to deal with that. They're gone and in that time they had all that time to Make that also work. So I guess it goes both ways

Yeah, but when it's two adults, that's one thing when it it's an adult and a child, it's on that adult to initiate, especially if you're in the fucking house. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, I mean, my grandma lived with us. My mom was my little with us for a few years and she was not lovey dovey, you know what I mean? But she was also there, but she was, then she stepped up.

It wasn't till my, so shit went down in the family where she stepped up and she's like, no, no, no, no, that your mom's wrong. Your dad's right. And your kids are right. And I was like, oh shit, mom, mom. Yeah. Mom, mom, Tom. Hey, hey, hey, good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yup, so I think it's really about that connection

with someone you have and no matter who it is, is there someone who's the closest person in your life? If they died to you, would you be sad? Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah, 1000%. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess I just have to- But I don't think that applies across the board

to every single person in our life. Some of them you're like, that's a damn shame. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess I don't think that applies across the board to every single person in our life Some of them you're like, that's a damn shame. You know what? It's not like they were yeah, that sucks man. Yeah gone Oh, yeah, but I got like I said, they you know They had these montage pictures over at the funeral and I was like man. I wish I I wish I could have known that lady I wish I got to like know that that person right there, you know, I wish I got to did anyone did they there. I wish I got to- Did anyone, did they get up and speak? Did you hear things you never heard about? Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, I did. And I was just like, wow, this is what I felt like I missed out on. Would you hear that you, would you learn about or you didn't know? Just like her presence and she was such a big ball of energy towards a lot of people. A lot of people spoke.

You're like, not in this house. Yeah, yeah, I was just like, you know, a lot of people spoke. Yeah. Yeah. I was just like, y'all must've got Jews on the ice house and pop. Just chilling. You know what I mean? I'm like grandma, what that tastes like, you know? Shit.

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But yeah, like, you know, there was a point in time where like, and I felt guilt in a lot of areas, you know, like when I was adopted into the family, you know, I felt guilt that my siblings were still in that household. When I was adopted into the family, I felt guilt that my siblings were still in that household. You know what I mean? I felt guilt on a weird black level that I'm like, I live with white people. You know what I mean?

Like I felt this like, you know, I felt like a- Imposter. Imposter, you know? I was like, Malcolm X gonna come after me. You know what I mean? Yeah. The white man. No, I'm just kidding.

But yeah, I felt that in all these areas. So yeah, I think at times I do still feel that in the weirdest ways and trying to dissect that. Everyone thinks I walk around life so smoothly, and for the most part I do, but there's a lot of things that I do, I feel, I feel like I still struggle with, you know, family-wise, you know, and I've gotten better about it. And, you know, doing this comedy special,

three dads, two moms, you know, was like, I talked about things that I thought I would never, ever talk about as a stand-up comedian. Like what? I never wanted to express that I was was like living with a white family. Why? I, it was just like, you know, cause it wasn't my family. I wasn't born into that family and, you know, but also I didn't want to express

the things about like where I came from. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, I felt like I was not that I was like a judgment thing. It was just like, I just didn't feel comfortable expressing that. You know what I mean, it's like, yeah, I felt like I was not that I was like a judgment thing. It was just like, I just didn't feel comfortable expressing that. You know what I mean? So it took me a little bit to like, you know, it's like, how do you find the funny in that, you know, cause it was a weird, all of it was a weird time for me. You know what I mean?

It's also an angry man who's got to be completely vulnerable to a crowd of people who are 100% going to be judgmental, good or bad. Good or bad. You know, good or bad, you know. Look at you letting your shoulders down over the years. Over the years. Over the years. It ain't easy.

It ain't easy. It ain't easy. It ain't easy. My suggestion, one at a time. Listen, I'm telling you. Keep one up, Seve time. Listen, I'll tell you. I'll tell you. Keep one up, Sevelle. Man, let me tell you. If I could go back and tell myself,

I wouldn't both equally drop them like this. I would've still kept one at a time. Yeah, yeah, I know. Listen, I'm doing better with the family, and I don't have no anger towards them, but man, there's still people I see that I grew up with, and they'll run into me, they'll be like, man, it's so good seeing you killing it.

I'm like, oh man, I appreciate that. And I'm always like, in the back of my head, I'm like, remember what you said to me in sixth grade? Cause I remember that shit. You know what I mean? You egged my house, mother fucker. I've been thinking that shit all the time. You stole my radio.

I'm like, man, you really talk to me so crazy. I should beat your ass right now. But you know, it's like, so, but you know, I feel like I am getting better. You know what I mean? You are, and's like, so, but you know, I, I feel like I am getting better. You know what I mean? You are. And the success is the old, that's the new version of whipping their ass. Yeah.

Yes. Your success is the, you can't be putting hands on people anymore. You're almost 40. You can't be fist fighting in your thirties and forties, unless it's for real self-defense, you can't just be pop. You can't just be, what'd you say? You can't be doing that. I know.

I, I, and I've been doing pretty good, you know. You can't be doing that. There's, you know, there's, there are, but I just feel it. It's like, that's the initial feeling. So, so like, whenever it's, I'm at like a, you know, something happens out of pocket, my initial feeling is I'm already dissecting

how I'm gonna beat their ass. I'm already dissecting like the type of things I want to do to that person, you know what I mean? And it takes me forever. It took me longer back in the day. Now it takes a little bit, but it takes me a bit to get that out of my head, you know what I mean? Because I just feel it.

And I know I'm not the only person. At first I thought I was, you know what I mean? And I know I'm not the only person. At first I thought I was. You know what I mean? I know I'm not the only person, which makes me not feel as crazy that a lot of people connect with that because I do have that feeling. I mean, the hate I had from my stepdad, the hate was just so, so, so, so strong, you know, and I'm glad, I'm glad I took the time to learn and educate myself about who that man was. And it's like, here's his past, here's what he went through.

And then you're like, oh my God, that word empathy, you know, that's what I realized in prior special. Like in order for him to do all the things that there's a level of empathy you have to have as a human. You know what I mean? And he had that. And so I think about that as I'm putting these jokes out and writing these things. My dad went back to prison recently.

He did? For what? Which dad? Which of the three? Which of the three? The white dad this time. I'm just kidding. I mean, one of the white dad, yeah.

He's like, I did time, I'm just kidding. Every one of the white dad, yeah. He's like, I did what? I'm just kidding. I never did that. No, my biological dad, the one that's been in and out, like, you know, and it was for some old shit or whatever that he got caught up on or whatever, you know, but like he was, and he's been doing good.

He, you know, he's been doing good. Like he, you know, he had been out for like, prior to this recent time going in, he had been out like 16 years or whatever. So he had a good run, but I felt like he had one more in him. But, but now he, you know, he found church, he found God and he found like this, like, you know,

beautiful wife and you know, he's super grounded and stuff like that. And, you know, as, you know, as he's moving forward in life and pushing himself at, you know, this, this old thing just had to resurface or whatever. And got them. And, you know, but he, you know, he said something really cool, you know, he goes, um, you know, I feel like he goes, I feel like this is like a test of like, you know, are you really trying to make yourself better? You know what I mean?

Like he's like, he's taking it in such a positive way instead of like a way of like, you know, now I'm back to that, to that life, you know, now I'm back to like, you know, like it's, it's not making him feel like he's gone backwards, you know, as much as like, you know, he goes, this is like a lesson. This is the thing. And it's like, you know, and it's like, okay, do you really wanna stay on this path or you wanna go back to the old self? Because he's been calling me while he's been in there

and he's been speaking very, such positive ways, you know what I mean? But yeah, and he goes, you've been doing jokes about me going back to prison? I said, you fucked up. I was like, I got a ton, you know what doing jokes about me going back to prison. I said, you fucked up. I was like, I got a ton. You know what I mean? But it's but it's cool. You know, I'm not like making them feel bad or whatever, which is funny.

But, you know, but yeah, being an adult, like, you know, I'm 38, you know, because because I only knew him to be in prison. Like, that's what I knew of him. But but before I even know who he was and knew I had a father, like, I just didn't know. And then he's in prison or whatever. But knowing him now, reconnecting seven or eight years ago, and then him going back, that's like a... I'm juggling these kind of emotions with that, because it's like, okay, is he just gonna be that guy

or is he trying to be a better guy? You know what I mean? And I, you know, through talking to him, hearing his story and hearing what it is, he is trying to be a better guy, you know? It's just some shit that just, old shit just resurfaced, you know what I mean? But what you're doing though is breaking cycles.

Like that generation of guys didn't think beyond just themselves. You're, you're trying to be like, okay, I need to figure this out for me. And also let me understand why he was that way. They never did that shit. Yeah. They never did that shit. So it's on us now to break the cycle. Cause you don't want to continue to be like that.

You don't want to, because right now you could 100% fall in line with the way your father was. You could be angry man that's in and out of jail. I'm not fit to be a gangster. Tell you that much. I was a cheerleader. I, with no parents from 16 on,

could easily be a drug addict, whatever. Dead by now, whatever. For sure. Easily. But we decided we didn't want that and we've moved forward. And then with that comes like, all right, I'm good. Why the fuck did all that happen?

And then you start diving into these people who brought you up and you're like, oh my God. They had kids when they were this age and they were this and they were this and they were this. And the puzzle starts to make a little more fucking sense. And people don't realize like it's actually very tough because you know I've been reading a lot of James Baldwin and in one of his books he says this line that just really hit me he goes parents lift up the world for their children you

know and I saw this image of like a parent holding up the world and their child being under them. And basically the parent explaining, this is this, this and this. And that is a very true, true, true thing. So whether they're telling you, showing you the good side of the world or the bad side of the world,

they do lift up the world for you. So my idea of the world was through the lens, as a kid, was through the, like as a kid was through the lens of my stepfather and my mom. And then all of a sudden my adoptive folks and then biological father, like I'm learning, you know, uh, these things of the world through them. I'm like, what is this world? You know what I mean?

And so, yeah, like, and it makes you go, how do, how do I figure this out? Well, like, none of this makes any sense. You know what I mean? Like, how do I have a dad when he's in prison? That was me as a kid thinking that. I was like, how do I have a dad when he's locked up? How? You know what I mean?

Like, how does that come about? And you know, I was told my stepdad was my dad, but I never called him dad. You know, I always called him by his name. And then, you know, like it's just, it messes with a person's brain. And you know, it is not an easy thing to break that kind of cycle.

You know what I mean? Like, and I think the best way that I've been able to do it is through education. You know what I mean? I think education, you know, and I'm not talking about like, you know, reading a book in school, you know, it's like reading a book about, you know,

or just learning about life and other people's lives and understanding what other people go through and having, you know, if you don't have that empathy, then that's what makes you dead inside. You know what I mean? If you don't understand the level of empathy of like, man, hey, this like kid, he's going through this right now. You know, you think this kid's acting up in class right now,

but you know, what's going on at home? I mean, when I used to coach cheerleading, you know, whenever a kid was like trying to get a new skill, they were trying to get a back handspring or something, but they would struggle with it. They would have these mental blocks. They'd be terrified, terrified, terrified, terrified. And I always realized there was something deeper than that.

There was something that was going on at home. You know what I mean? Because it's like, why can't this kid learn this? You know what I mean? Why can't this kid under understand that? What is being taught to them outside of this world, outside of the world of cheerleading that is making them come into the world of cheerleading? And it's like me with school.

You know what I mean? Like, I was doing terrible. I was acting up, but no one ever asked, what's going on at home? What's going on at home? You all right? Are you going on at home? You all right? Are you in a safe space? You know? And here's the thing, I didn't even get that,

get to understand that until I was in my twenties. You know what I mean? That was on second anger management teacher. Yes, second, you know what I mean? So second anger management teacher is when I'm learning what my life is, I'm like, this is really my life? I was like, man, that's scary.

I was scary. I was embarrassed. For a little bit, it just made me want to shove it all down and stuff like that. But luckily, through the wonderful world of anger management and them helping me out, they helped me understand like, okay, but here's what you're gonna do with it. You're good, you're okay, you're in safe space now, but here's what you're gonna do with it. You know what I mean?

But like I said, I still have my struggles. I don't know if this is a popular opinion or an unpopular opinion, but for people like us, I firmly believe that that chip on our shoulders, what got us where we are. I think that we're wired to be like, huh? One of those. We're wired for that.

Wired. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not like, is that guy talking to me? I was like, is he saying? You know what I mean? Not like, right away. That's like the, we're reactive people instead of,

you know, think first and breathe and then let, mm-mm. Just, yeah. We're gonna react. We're gonna react. And then we're gonna be like, oh, okay. Everything is reaction. Okay, all right, all right. You did this, I'm reacting immediately.

You know? Yeah, but that anger and that chip on your shoulder also has protected you all this time. It's got you where you are. So it's hard to let it go. You gotta, over the years, you gotta, you know, taper it down. You have to, you have to. That anger, that what the fuck, that shit is, it's a killer for everything. It's a killer for your energy, relationships, all that. That angry fucking person. Man, you know how many books I'll be reading at once?

Cause I'll be so angry. I'll be like, I'll read, and I don't know. You get mad about reading the book. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. I'm reading somebody's goddamn book. Yeah, right, reading so many, I'll just read. There's a book called, you're reading too much.

Yeah, yeah, right, yeah. Yeah, check that out. No, but I, you know, like I said, just like, you know, like, like I said, just like, you know, I like when things make me mad now, yeah, I really just try to like, read a book, read something that like, gives you some insight on how to like, you know, loosen this tension. You know what I mean? Like that's like, that my biggest thing is reading, reading and journaling. Obviously, I think

you know that part. but if I, yeah, if I didn't have books, man, y'all be in trouble. Do you want kids? Well, I'll be in trouble. Do I want kids? Nah, I don't know. Then I'm not, no judgment. When you say no, is it cause you just don't want kids?

Are you worried about bringing a kid up in the way you grew up? Are you worried that you won't be a good parent? Are you worried that you'll be like your parents? I was worried about being like my mom when I had a kid. Then I was like, of course I love my kid. What the fuck's my... Yeah. Oh, you know what, man?

I guess I'm kind of 50-50 with it, like, you know, with having a kid and stuff like that. I mean, you know, I do think I'd be the best that I could be. You know what I mean? But yeah, I don't know. And I said no at first, but now I'm thinking about, I don't know. You know, I don't know.

If a girl came to you right now and said, hey, I'm pregnant, it's yours. Are you all in on this? I'm celibate. Are you all in on it? I'm celibate. All that could get you is a hundred DMs. Um, uh, it's, she came to me and said, yeah, then I'll take action for sure.

I'm saying would you lean into being a dad and all that stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'd make it dope. It'd be fun. You, um, I'd make it though. Have you had a conversation with your mom about your grandma, her mom passing? No.

No. Did you see her at the, was she, was everyone at the funeral? And you didn't talk about that? Did she cry? Yeah. She was emotional. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she was emotional. Were they close?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they lived like down the street from each other. Really? Mm-hmm, yeah, I mean, she's always been around and stuff like that, but yeah, I mean, yeah, maybe that's what I need to do. Like I had, the way I learned about my stepdad was through my mom telling me these more in-depth things about him.

Oh, you mean how you learned his history and all that? Yeah. It was through your mom? Mm-hmm. It was. Because I was just like, yeah, tell me about him. I was like, what is his story? Because I didn't know.

I didn't know his origin story at all. I just knew what he was in those moments. You know what I mean? That's all I knew about him. So maybe that's where I'd get the education on my grandma and her origins and what it was for her. Yeah, I don't go to the family reunions or anything like that.

They have them. Oh yeah, they have one this past weekend. I don't go to like the family reunions or anything like they have them. Oh, yeah, they have one like This past weekend. Why don't you go? I don't know. I don't know What do you would not want to? Oh No, listen, I used to be the same way that shit that shit shifted in my 40s And I'm like I'm fucking rolling up in this bitch. Y'all don't like me. I'm out 16 year old anymore. I got keys. Yeah, bro. I can drive, man. My car right there. I get right the fuck out. It's right there as me. Right there. I pull right up in front.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. It's a... Are there people that will be there you know that will be there that you don't even want to deal with? Is that part of it? Or are you just feel like weird? Does that feel uncomfortable? It's uncomfortable. For sure uncomfortable. Is it mom's side of the family or dad's? Yeah, it was my mom's side of the family. Yeah. And is it a big family? Yeah, but my dad's side of the, my biological dads, they do the family reunion thing too. They both do them, but I just, I don't know. They do big ones too.

Cause also I'm still getting to learn like a lot of people, especially on my dad's side. Stay off that 23 of these. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I'm not even touching it. I don't want to know. Stay off of that. You know, like I'm still learning like.

You got nine new brothers and shit, like come on man. What are y'all doing out there? I don't want to know, I don't want to know at all. I don't want to know. I was like, listen, man, they already got me fucked up. So I was like, I don't need anything else. Just let me have this right now. This is great.

This is because, man, they've done a lot of curveballs at me. The thing was, my mom, my family always kept secrets from me. I mean, you know, the thing was is like my mom, my family always kept secrets from me. That's the other thing I was about to say. When you go to those family reunions, that's when you do hear shit. You're like, wait, what? Y'all didn't know that?

Oh yeah. And you're like, what? Yeah, and then it's old hat. The thing was like everyone knew I had a dad, but me. At the family reunion or just growing up? Growing up. Until when? My brother, I didn't learn about until I was,

I think I was like 10 or 11. The whole family was able not to slip up? Not a cousin or anybody? That's crazy. No one. The odds of that are crazy. Crazy, crazy. Now once you found out, that's when the reunion started.

All right everybody. Yeah, I was like, my brother knew who he was, my sister, everybody in the family knew, but I had no clue, it's crazy. I don't know why, and they do that a lot with me. They do that a lot where they just keep, and they just continue to keep things away from me, the secrets and stuff like that.

That was me growing up. I did ask my mom why. You know what I mean? She was just like, she said, what did she say? She said, is because the way you were treated, and you were already going through such hard stuff with the relationship with my stepdad.

And so that whole business, so that throw more on me. She just didn't want to, you know what I mean? Which I mean, I guess I understand that. I don't know. I can't tell you how many times my grandma would say, we'll tell you when you're older. And then at 16 they all died. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was telling us. Yeah. What information? You died with that. I hate that.

Yeah. I know. Always that I know they're doing it to protect your whatever, but man, man, are they leaving you with some fucking problems. That's what I had to realize. The one thing I had to realize is that at the end of the day, I think they were doing the best that they could do with what they had. You know what I mean?

I don't know if my dad was wanting to drink, but I think he just saw a way he made quick money. You know what I mean? And he's like, oh, I could buy this for my family. I can buy this for my family. I can buy that. You know what I mean? My stepdad, if I had to narrow it down, I just think he didn't have a dad in his life.

So he was just like, okay, I need to be, what he thought he was doing was the best. You know what I mean? What my mom was doing, she thought was the best. I think they all thought that, you know? And so it's like, can I, can I, you know, blame them for like, for that? I mean, they were only going off what they knew, you know, I'd probably be the same if I didn't educate myself. If I didn't like, if I didn't get the, you know, the knowledge that I have now,

you know, I probably, that's what I'm saying. Exactly. That's where it drops on this cycle. This generation for you is you starting this bullshit. You know, you have a kid and your grand, your grandson's probably going to be a wonderful young man. It'll be a scholar. It might be my great-grandson. Yeah, right.

Get this anger out of my ass. Exactly. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I guess like, as far as the kid thing goes, yeah, I would love to pass on this knowledge to a seed. That would be dope.

Or at least, do you big brother? Do you mentor or anything like that? Yeah. My best friend's kid, my best friend who passed away in like, 09, his son. Yeah. I give a lot of love and a lot of knowledge to him. Somebody needs it. Don't just keep that shit to yourself. You went through all this bullshit. I know, right? Be a waster to keep it to yourself.

Yeah. I do try to deliver it out there for sure. Oddly enough, I will have a ton of people that'll just reach out to me, ask me questions on how to be better. I'm like, there's nothing I can, I can physically do for you other than like show you things that like I've, you know, these foundational things that I have learned that can kind of just, you can use for the rest of your life. You know, I have, I have that kind of knowledge, but yeah, well, my best friend's kid, you know, he's, he's 18. He just joined the

air force or whatever. I think he just finished his, uh, what do you call it? Basic? He's finished his basic and stuff like that. And he didn't get to know, he was three years old when his dad had died. So, but he'll always ask me like, tell me a story about my dad. And I'll tell him stories about his dad. And I try to give him as much life advice as I can.

And his grandpa is really good in his life. His grandpa was in the Air Force, which is why he wanted to go to the Air Force and make his granddaddy proud and stuff like that. And he's doing really good. He's doing really good. But yeah, I think when his dad had died, I was just, that was one,

I just immediately turned to the, I just immediately thought of his son immediately, was just like, that's a baby. He don't have his dad, you know what I mean? And I'm over here with three dads. You know what I mean? Yeah, you got three of them. I got one for you, dog.

You know what I mean? But it's cool to teach him, and kind of guide him as best as I can, with just life, you know what I mean? And he's smarter than me. Books, all that, bro, don't even ask me. You know, he got all that, you know, he can have that. He can have it, I'll let him have that.

But like, as far as like, you know, just life and just how to roll with it and roll through it, you know, cause yeah, there's gotta be something there, you know, cause I know what it feels like to be left out of something that you don't know that is a part of your life. And he didn't get to know his dad. So there's this thing of like this frustration where you don't get to know, you know what I mean? And you're like trying to know. So I try to give as much information about his father as I can. That's great. Yeah.

about his father as I can. That's great. Yeah. All right. I wish we did family reunions. Ours were, unfortunately, it was funerals. Right? It was one a year. Everybody did.

Minimum, we'd all be there. You know what I mean? Everybody. But hey, look how you doing? It was never let's go fucking play games and shit. Yeah, I know. Hey man, how you believe this? Another one, man.

Yeah. White people do family reunions, right? I don't I know black people do it way more than white people do it way more. You all get shirts. You all get that. You all got the shirt, the lacy family. Yes. White people, I don't know why we don't do it as much. I don't know. They don't do it as much. I don't know. They don't do it as much. That is so funny, man.

You know the shit. Oh, bro, I used to go to the park with my daughter all the time. I was king of the park. The parks are free. You know what I mean? Yeah, the parks are free. I mean, I'm at the parks over here,

I'm like, there's another friend. Oh, yeah, right. They stink, but they show up, though. They show up, and there's a lot. There's a bunch of them showing up. A lot. Yes. That's so funny.

I've told this story a bunch, but I'll tell you quickly, just because it relates. You'll laugh so funny. I've told this story a bunch, but I'll tell you quickly just cause it relates. You'll laugh at this. I've only been to one family reunion and it was by accident. I happened to be back in Baltimore visiting family and my aunt Marguerite, she's my great aunt, my grandmom's sister.

They're all dead at this time. She's like, hey, you know, there's a family reunion tomorrow up in New Jersey, in Trenton, New Jersey. I'm like, nah. She goes, yeah, we're going. Why don't you just come with us? I go, nah, you got RSVP. She's like, just come with us. I said, okay. So we all roll up and it's outside at this fucking park. It's, there's maybe 25 people. It ain't a lot. It may be less and there's no shirt.

It's humid as fuck. There's a mall right next door. Halfway through, I was like, man, it's too hot. We all went into the mall. The cool office, it was miserable. We come back and then they're doing prizes. And they're like, I don't know, the oldest person here. Who's the oldest relative?

They're playing games? Yeah, like awards, like trophies. Not games, but shit like that. Right, I never heard of no awards and no family reunion. Wait, y'all don't see each other often. Wait to hear this. Oh no. So somebody says, okay. And the award for the person who traveled the farthest is, you know, Lindsay from Texas. And my aunt Marguerite goes, uh-uh, ah, ah, California right here. Well, remember I didn't RSVP. Yeah. Yeah. And they're like, what? She's like, ah, he came from California. Like, did you? I go, yeah. And they come over and they're like, okay. And they,

they tentatively give me this trophy. Like, here you go. Right. And she's like, look at that. So they keep doing whatever at the end of the reunion, they come over to me and they say, hey, could we get the trophy? We'd like to engrave it for you and send it to you. And I said, yeah, sure. And I never saw that motherfucker again. Never saw it again. Because it went back to Lindsey.

It went back to Lindsey. It went back to Lindsey. That's where it went. It did, of course. Lindsey, if you out there, 100% it went to her ass. Because you know he won. That's the only time I've been to a father reunion. I ain't going to another one. Yeah. He said 25 people at a time.

They fucking took my trophy, bro. Damn. Yeah, we just want to engrave it. We just want to engrave it. Chapelle, Lacey, thank you for coming on and doing this, man. I love talking to you. This is always fun. Thank you. And one more time, on and doing this, man. I love talking to you. This is always fun. Thank you. One more time, promote all of it, please. Oh yeah, so, oh, I got it right now. I got you right now, hold on.

I will be everywhere, world tour, I'm just kidding. No, so I'll be in San Fran, May 21st, Sacramento, May 22nd, Columbus, 7-12, and then Virginia Beach and Richmond, June 11th and 12th. And then there's more tour dates that are coming. Say where you can find all your dates. All my dates, chapellac.com. Your special. My special, 3 Dads 2 Moms on YouTube,

Don't Tell Comedy. If you just type in 3 Dads 2 two moms, it is the first thing. I'm gonna say it's probably the only thing in there. It's the only thing that pops up. So watch it, enjoy it, and I'm working on new stuff, and I'm excited about all that. Everything's chapelleacy.com, chapelleacy on Instagram. I don't do all the other stuff, but yeah, so.

Congrats, brother. Yeah, thank you, thank you. Congrats. As always, Ryan Sickler on all your social media. We'll talk to y'all next week. You