The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler - 347: Gene Simmons - God of Thunder

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

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The Honeydue with Ryan Sickler. Welcome back to the honey do y'all. We're over here doing it in the Nightpant Studios. I'm Ryan Sickler, Ryan Sickler.com. Ryan Sickler on all your social media and I'm starting this episode like I start them all by saying thank you. Thank you for supporting not only this show, anything I do. I genuinely appreciate you.

guys. You're the best fans in comedy. If you've got to have more, then you got to have the Patreon. It's called The Honeydue with y'all. And it's this show with y'all. And you all have the wildest stories I've ever heard my life. Five bucks a month, it's worth a cup of coffee. All right. If you were someone you know has a story that has to be heard, please submit it to Honeydood Podcast at gmail.com. All right. That's the biz. You know what we do here. We highlight the low lights. And I always say that these are the stories behind the storytellers. I'm very excited to have this guest on with me, ladies and gentlemen. Please welcome the God of Thunder.

Gene Simmons. Welcome to the honeydew, Gene Simmons. Thank you. Thank you for giving me the clap. You're welcome. See what I did there. Look, obviously, I'm a massive fan and I'm giddy about this. But before I get in any of my nonsense,

please promote everything, anything you'd like. Okay. You want me to talk about Satan. Whatever you want. It's not going to happen. Just because you worship that son of a bitch does not me. the sound bite's got to be you i've had enough of that stuff we'll get there i really don't care uh social media books tour i have have we have books social media pop house bought kiss big company

they're very what do you mean bought kiss bought the name the brand makeup and the catalog wow yes about a year and a half ago so so there are plays and cartoon shows there's a movie that's being cast right now, a guy named Mick G, M.C. Capital G, who's done lots of big stuff. Yeah, I know what Mick G is. Yeah. So that's in the casting stage now. And there's going to be a Kiss Avatar show, which is tough to describe. So we'll just let it happen when it happens. And lots of new, you know, tons of toys and games and dildos and stuff like that. I love it. I love it. I love it. And it's been going for...

Matter of fact, over the years, literally thousands of licensed products, people have stopped complaining. You know, one of your first started doing stuff, they said, what about credibility? Bitch, you don't even know how to spell that word. Since when do people who never learned how to read or write music worry about credibility? What are you talking about? Last week, you were, you know, selling crack on the corner. This week, you're talking about credibility. Artists don't do that.

artist you taught yourself how to strum guitar and you don't have no qualification for even saying the word artist so they've finally stopped because the kiss juggernaut rules and we've over the years we've done everything from kiss condoms to kiss caskets yeah we'll get you coming and we'll get you going i fucking love it dude but that's fact by the way i know it is yeah i know it is And doesn't the casket double as a cooler up until you need to use it? Does it not? There are bars across the country that have bought it. Is that right?

Yeah, you know, as a centerpiece. And they fill it with ice and everything and the drinks. You want something and, you know, why wait until they're dead to use something? Keep your beers cold, they keep you cold. As a matter of fact, sadly, Dimeback Darrell from Pantera, one of his last wish and testaments were to be buried in a kiss casket. Is that right? I sent him one of mine, yeah.

No joke. Wow? He had A's tattooed on his chest and everything, yeah, yeah. You know, sadly, how he passed as there was a former Marine who, out of his mind, stepped up on a club, on a stage and just shot him in the head. Oh, I didn't know the, I knew how he died, but I didn't know the history of the guy. He was mentally ill or PTSD or nuts. Well, in either case, I was.

would kill the son of a bitch i'm i'm not a you don't want to make me the judge of anything because i think we've got a pussy justice system well you've been on stage for jesus 60 years or more not 60 but since 1804 have you been attacked ever like that with a weapon anybody ever come up with a weapon i'm a decent uh sized guy Yeah. So I'm saying they got to be crazy to come up. You're blowing fire. But usually people who pick fights or bully there. Even when you're drunk, you tend to pick on people smaller. So I've never really been picked on what happened with your dog today. Yeah, man. So Gene came in and Princess was barking like she likes to do if you're coming in her spot. And Gene said, you know what takes care of this? Watch this. And he said, and that's all he did. She yelped, backed up. She went in, he walked in, put his hand out, started kissing him. He leaned down, started kissing him, lifted her chin up, started tickling her, best friends.

All everybody wants to know is, what are the rules? What's the pecking order? Because we're all pack animals, human beings, dogs. I mean, they react to the same thing. We just want to know what the rules are. Where do we stand in the hierarchy? And you notice I'm about to turn 76 and my hand does not shake. It doesn't.

And you've been playing bass forever too. That's called no drugs, no booze, and no cigarettes, ever. Try running a car, put some sand or crap in your fuel. It's not going to run very well. By the way, I'm not here to shake my finger at anybody and say, do what I do. No, you've got a menu in life. You're welcome to pick what you want from it. That's my personal choice.

Well, I want to get into this with you, but before I do, I want to say when I first met you, You were so great. You came to the stand-up show. You came to the re-up with your son, Nick, who's done watch his episode, was great. By the way, Nick and Evan Stanley, Paul Stanley's song, now have this band. They both have their own musical thing. Nick's music's been on Ozark, the Two-Hour special, and what was the other one, prodigal son, lots of stuff. And Evans, a really accomplished guitar player and writer in his own route.

And they've been pals since they were little amoebas, and they got together, started strumming. And they sort of... I'll follow them. I love it. The voices just meld. So we're watching it as they sort of do it together then. Yes. Okay.

The material is coming fast. That's great. And you can describe it as kind of Crosby Stilz-Nash and Simon Garfunkel, real melody acoustic guitars, really good stuff. But you can't, you know, there are tones that just work with other tones, voices. So if Jagger joined the Beatles and tried to sing harmony with John and Paul, it wouldn't work. The tonality just doesn't work. And so there's something, you know, there's something very special about the Beatles, not just because they all came from a small town, had no resume, no experience, no everything. when they sang harmony you just go there's that there's that sound really something yeah and

nick and uh evan have that yeah i'm pleasantly surprised i was telling a friend this morning like he's playing with uh paul stanley's son and they're actually really good uh but you came in you said i'll never forget because i'm meeting you for the first time you're a good looking funny man and i said i think i may have said you're powerful and attractive man thank you even better even better brother I may have said you may be popular in jail. You pumped my tires, that's for sure. And all I could say, and I told my brothers was I was you for Halloween two years in a row. I was me also.

Even then, we had the Halloween costume, the one that was flammable, you know. We stopped. That's exactly right. The mask with the rubber band. We stopped making it because in those days, the fire department was asleep at the wheel. Here, kid. By the way, what are you, five years old, put this on. Don't smoke because it'll go up, you know.

My brother and I would trade off and be used because my mom wasn't by it. They were flammable and they would melt onto your skin because it was plastic. Oh, I did think about that, the planet. You're burning. That's great. Yeah. And then I told you a quick story that. Farm animals.

I'm a twin, fraternal twin. I got the looks. That's why you're fucked up. And yeah. And this is 19, probably March of 79. Tell me the truth. Which one of you has the bigger schmackle? You know what?

I'll be honest. I really don't know. I'll ask them. But you saw each other naked. Yeah, but I don't remember. It's been years. I mean, when mom's not looking. It's been years, dude.

I really don't know. I got, I'm no shame in my game. I'll ask him. I want with, what's his name? I want Gert and Derek. Derek? I get the Destroyer Kiss remote control van that you would probably market it out there. It's an early one, you know.

They don't know what that is. I recently looked on the other podcast, the way back for one online. People were asking for up to five grand for those. I don't know if you know that. And my brother sees that I got it and he's pissed that he didn't. He takes it out. He goes out in our drive. He drives this thing right out in the street and a car runs over and breaks into a piece.

I'm devastated. So he didn't do it on purpose. Oh, no. He did do it on purpose. Why? That's a good question. So I see him recently. This is, I mean, I'm seven probably at the time.

This is 45 years later right now. And I see him and I finally get him on a podcast after podcasting for 15 years. And one of the first things he says to me is, you know what I remember? I go, what? He goes, that time you got that Kiss fan. And I drove it out in the street and purposely had it run over by a car. So you couldn't play with it. I said, yeah.

Why? That's what I said. Why? He's like, I don't know. And I said, well, you know what? here it is that's not an answer i want you to close that childhood wound for me and look right there at that camera and say hey derrick fuck you hey derrick fuck you and remember to swallow bitch that's what the god of thunder and your brother derrick fuck you so wound healed i don't know

is the answer what's what's the real answer i guess you know we were both twins and we were competitive and i guess he just was like let's fucking go and i we were we were not the twins, like we've had the Sklar brothers on where they finish each other's sentences and they're always want to play together. We were always like, no, you're over there and I'm over here. Yeah, Ken and Abel didn't get along you. We were not the- So tell us the truth because inquiring minds want to know. Yeah. So when the chicks came along, did you ever share? Not intentionally. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm assuming you're straight. Okay, so when little not intentionally, but let me tell you something. I found out after, not at the same time. Never.

had a threesome with my brother and never but he found i found out later that yeah there's uh one or two if he's going to run over your kiss truck he's going to mount one of your chicks makes see the the continuity and the yeah it makes sense yeah that pecking order we were talking about i'm going to run over your kiss truck and i'm going to fuck one of your chicks also one of the things i wanted to show you to i brought this used condom what is it this was a big deal for me this is My friend Matt Schilling and I have been friends since before elementary school, we promised each other as kids when you took the makeup off. If you ever put it back on, we would go see that show. We would go see it in Madison Square Garden.

I'm from Baltimore. So you guys announced Saturday, July 27th, 1996 that you're coming back in makeup for the first time after years and you're going to Madison Square Garden. Yeah, Ace and Peter got their act together for a while. It was the original four. and you come to the garden not just we didn't go to the caps that he was living in new york i'm in baltimore i pick his younger brother up we drive up together my 1990 honda civic with original rims and that's the ticket stub right there 311 opened for you guys on that show which was well we had different different well we had three or four nights and we had different oh each night

was different each night we always gave new bands new england was another band and i think I'm pretty sure I'll think of the other one but we always gave new bands in fact if you take a look at the list of the bands we gave their first tour on ACDC Judas Priest Iron Maiden

Bon Jovi, Montley crew Do you do Ozzy or Black Sabbath? No, we played with Sabbath originally when we were both trying to Make some headway in 74. But these are first tours, cheap trick. God.

I mentioned Bon Jovi, Motley, almost anybody, Scorpions, anybody we just liked besides being in a band, you're also fans. You know, oh, gee, I like that. Maybe the kids would like hearing that. Yeah. Yeah, that's that show. I saved this forever, man. This was wild.

Well, don't get rid of that. I'm never getting rid of that. Never. This is going in. in the frame out there but let's dial it back what is what is that little uh what skid mark on the corner of the ticket what's that of them let's talk about is that hendricks in the corner that is hendricks over there that bust is i'm a huge hendricks fan and tom sigora name some of the bands before hendricks became it was jimmy james and the flames

Jimmy James and the Blue Flames. James Brown of the flames. He also played for Little Richard. He appeared. Go ahead. Little Richard. Yeah. Isley brothers.

True. Gosh, he played on the whole Chitlin circuit, too. It was his own guy for a while with all the broken teeth. Chitlin circuit. Chitlin circuit was the circuit where a lot of the black players came up and they were doing the teeth and behind. That's actually where he learned how to do that and then took that to the main street. More stuff was happening there that, you know, white people just stand still. They tried to tell us where to young Chitlin circuit is, you know, all that stuff.

Chitlin is an African-American dish. Pig innards, poor people eat the food that's available. And the Chitlin Circus was all black in fire hazardous kind of wooden cabins in the middle of nowhere. And people who worked hard, black folks who worked hard would go there and see everybody, James Brown, Joe Tex, you know, all that stuff. Yeah, and he's playing with, I know he upstaged little Richard a little bit. I read about all that stuff. But he played with Richard.

I don't mean in the band. I mean, no. Did you ever play with him? Did you ever see him? Hendricks? No, never, unfortunately. Never cross pads? No, sadly no.

He died at 27. Yeah, very young. In fact, I wrote a book called 27, the astonishing number of talented young people. Let's see, Hendrix, Joplin, Joplin, Corbin. Morrison. Kurt Cobain, Amy Winehouse. I mean, it goes all the way back to The Elephant Man. Belushi? Was Belushi? 27 also? Just crazy. It is crazy. It's suspicious about that number. That is a weird number. My dad died on November 27th now, you say it. How about that? Let's go back to the beginning. I really want to talk about, you know, your arrival here and all that.

Because from what I've understood, your mom is a Holocaust survivor. She actually made it out. And I'd love to hear about that. And what your dad did as well, then you get here, knowing no English or anything. And now look at you. So how does it all begin for mom? Well, my mother was 14. And the entire Klein family, my mother's side, were Jewish Europeans, Jewish Hungarians.

the entire family was taken into the concentration camps of Nazi Germany. What were you going to say? I was going to say that's why you and Christina Pajitsky hit it off that night. Her family's Hungarian. You went and sat and you guys had quite a conversation about that. And she mentioned it to me. Although I'm fluent in Hungarian and German. That's what she was telling me.

Sorry to interrupt. She's okay. I don't mean as a comedian. Yeah. And it's interesting about that job. There's comedian and comedian, the masculine feminine, spelled a little differently. Did you know that? I did know that.

This is what I'm here for, kids. And sadly, besides being tortured and starved, our whole family, I had no grandmother's grandfather. They were all first starved, tortured, beaten, and then eventually gassed. Jesus. And what can I say? The crazy thing about Germany, and I don't believe there's such a thing as Hitler's children, you're born with a clean slate. So the modern Germans are very progressive and big supporters of Israel and all that. But in the 20th century, not too long ago, Germany decides to declare war on the world.

on the world. Not against it. No, we want the world. And of course, it doesn't go well for them in the First World War. And then something under 30 years, they decide to go to war again, against the world. This is the most advanced country in Europe, technologically, mathematics and so on. Freud, oh, that's right, he's Jewish, too, came from Germany. highest level of academia came from Germany in Europe.

And there's no, you can't even say, ah, they're barbarians. They can't even want, nope. The most advanced technologically, they invented the ICBMs, the rocket. In fact, when America went in there quickly, they took Werner von Braun, von Braun, the rocket scientist, and he created the American space program. Those were all Nazi technology. In fact, KISS played at the Von Braun Civic Center in Alabama. The government gave them anything, awards, and everything just make our former Nazi. Yeah, life is strange.

I just recently heard that, and I see so much stuff on the Internet now, and I don't know what's true, but that's true, huh? Yeah. A former Nazi built our space. We took their brightest. Yeah. Why wouldn't you? I mean, it's interesting, instead of wiping them out, make them work for you. Well, either you kill them or the Russians get them and that's what they're going to use them for.

Or you may as well use their brain power. They were amazing. There's still no explanation. I've read lots of theses. The thesis is one. And books and everything. There's no explanation. explaining why the most advanced country, by the way, a very young country, it wasn't, didn't become, there was Prussia and Bavarian and all that, they didn't become a country until about 1860, 1870, Bismarck and all that, rule with an iron fist. He actually had an iron fist, lost it. And yes, I used to teach sixth grade bitches. Yeah, I want to hear about that. So within, uh, Germany by 1917, they just became a

country in 1860 by 1917 declare war against the world that's interesting 19 when or 1860 you said they became a country so within the first 80 years they were going against a world twice not even 50 40 years it's crazy that is crazy go against the world they advanced so quickly technologically and you know they're so your mom is she the last or was she the last of that your whole family going back years. She finally passed at 94 years of age. And any wisdom I have, and I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but I will work harder than the guy next to me, which is why I succeed more often, it's not who's smarter.

it's who works harder perseverance isn't just a big word like gymnasium the turtle actually won the race not the rabbit do you know the turtle and the rat thing sorry the hair tortoise in the hair actually tortoise yeah turtle and a rabbit the rest of us don't care it's a fucking turtle and it's a rabbit this is an ad by better help these days it feels like there's advice for everything cold plunges gratitude journals screen detoxes but how do you know actually works for you. With the internet and information overload about mental health and wellness, it can be a struggle to know what's true and what actions to take these days. Using trusted resources and talking to live therapists can get you personalized recommendations

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do there's no safe like simply safe now let's get back to the dude and what can i say we came to america my mother raised me on her own my father left us when i was about six years of age and shamefully it's not unique in america he came as well and then he left no he never got to America. Both of them met in one of these camps that the allies set up where you feed and doctors and all that for the concentration camp survivors and they couldn't feed them solid food because they would die like that. The digestive systems were starved to death. So you had to slowly, within a year liquids and then slowly protein and so on. Man. Yeah. And they were all suffering. The only way learned that too is by a lot of people dying and eating right away. Jesus. I just horrific.

And they met and my father was a very, very tall man who spoke strangely because I hadn't seen him since I was sick. I found out he spoke through my half brother and half sisters that he spoke 12 languages. I know it all sounds like, what are you talking about? Even though my father had never been to America, he spoke fluent English. The letters I got from him from Israel, even though I hadn't seen himself six years of age, were in perfect English. So he read and write in it and spoke Nigerian, Russian, Arabic, Hungarian, Turkish. I don't even remember all the other languages. How? I don't know. I mean, I can, I can pick up, when we were, when my mother and I were in Israel, my father left. I had a babysitter because my mother worked six days a week,

7 a.m. till 7 p.m. I was with a Turkish nanny who was just an older lady who lived next door and, you know, with a German shepherd and a muzzle to prevent it from biting everybody because that's what it used to do. In fact, I still have the scar because one day the German Shepard decided, oh, a Jewish snack. So I spoke, in my younger years, Turkish, Spanish, Hungarian, Hebrew. And then when we came to America, the Turkish and the Spanish sort of disappeared. I can still understand, I can curse Spanish like a sailor. I mean, that's it. But the language sort of went back there and learned German

reasonably well so I can get by and tell a girl she's beautiful and also if you don't tell her she's beautiful she's not going to tell you where the bathroom is so the first piece of advice if you go to any other country is learn how to say in their language

you're beautiful and then ask them where the bathroom is because if you don't tell them you're beautiful they're not going to tell you where the bathroom is lesson one and you can pick up any language if you stop on day one speaking English

by the end of the day you learn to say where's the bathroom I want water stuff you will learn it because necessity is the mother and so on so I can you know almost do the amur de my life

Spanish you have to say zisculam you ought to say pro that's Hungarian an Not about Utskushu, so desne, Japanese. So you speak fluent Japanese?

No, I wish I got to put it. Enough to get by. You got to put in the time, go to Japan, stop speaking English. You will learn. It is a fascinating language because it's now written phonetically. So, for instance, if I say, Watashiwa, Jin Chimon's this, I'm telling you, my name is so and so. How do you think Watashiwa is spelled? Watashiwa.

I mean, I would say W-A-T. No, wait, Watan-S-H-W-A-T-W-A-T-A-W-A-T-A, I'm sorry, there's T. W-A-T-A-W-A-T-A-S-H. It sounds, Wattashi. And then W-A-W-A-W-T-S-H-H-W-T-S-H. So say Wata-S-S-H-H-Wat-S-W-S-W-S-W. And then your name? Ryan.

And then just add D-E-S-D-S at the end. Dess. Not dis, des, des, des. Dess. Yeah, so say the whole thing. Watashiwa, Ryan, Des. Psycho des, so des. That's like, Psycho is perfect, and they do this.

So, you can say good morning. I'll teach you good morning in one-tenth of a second, Ohio. Ohio The state The state of Ohio Say it Ohio Well not

Ohio Like Como estar Not like Americans do it Just clip it Ohio Ohio

So des ne Psycho desks That means perfect Yeah You just learned How to say Good morning You also nailed a good

Mid-Atlantic accent Right there too man Mid-Atlantic is what they call it Yeah It is for sure And by the way, that's how I learned to speak English by watching television and realizing that they're in New York, there are different sounds. You're going to the club tonight.

Like I was going to get, there's that sound of English. There's, yeah, man, you ain't going to. There's that sound. My brother, Bob, was going to get in Long Island. There's that sound. But the guys on TV who were better dressed, read the news, spoke like this. So I wanted to speak like them. Give me the language or the order of the language as you learn them in.

You mean since childhood? Yep, since childhood. Hebrew, Hungarian, Turkish, Spanish, and then I forgot those. And then here it's Hebrew, Hungarian, English, German, and just a few Japanese phrases. The English was down the list for you. Well, yeah, it was the third language when we came here. So you're learning by watching TV, you're not, you're not going to a class or anything like that. No one's teaching you.

Going to school. And it's only in English, everything in English in school for you right away. What the hell is that like going to, I mean, I can't imagine being day one in Japan and not, I mean, I wouldn't even know what the hell they're saying. You learn quickly. Yeah. And this is, what year is this? You're in elementary school. There's obviously no internet.

18.04. So it's a lot of gesturing, I'm guessing, and following what other people were doing. My mother and I came here because she had two brothers very successful. No, Jews who are successful? What? By the way, it's off the map. If you take a look at the people's, religions, and so on. Take a look at you.

There's only 15.5 million Jews on the entire planet. Is that right? That's worth a pregnant pause. There are only about 6 million grown men between the ages of 18 and 35-footers who are Jews on the planet. The rest are women and children. It's pretty shocking. And yet all the superheroes, all of them, Batman, Superman, the Fantastic Four, Thor, the Hulk. We're all created by Jews.

Is that right? All of them. Bob Kane is Bob Cohen, Bill Finger. Jack Kirby is Jacob, Kurtzberg, Stanley is Stanley Lieber, Superman, Siegel and Schuster. They're all Jews. Dress British, think Yiddish, this idea of a secret, this alter ego, those Jews try to assimilate.

Me too. I made up my own name. So all these, strangely, and all of Hollywood, Warner Brothers, Paramount, Universal, all the studios were created and invented by Jews who could barely speak English. Literally, goldfish became gold win. He stole the win from Selwyn Brothers

and they sued him, he won Metro Golden Mayor. In fact, the largest financial institution are Goldman Sachs, both Jews. It's very strange. But find a pull up to a gas station. It's not a kike in sight within a thousand miles. You go to a construction site. Hey, Morsha, send me your hammer.

Don't choose anywhere. Yeah. But if you want a lawyer or a doctor, if you go to Wall Street, play basketball, not one guy's named Ira. Yeah. Route one. Can't dribble, but they own the teams. Yeah.

Yeah. You like the Patriots? Robert Kraft. Yeah, that name. Gee, it doesn't sound there. That's right. Dress British. Think Yiddish. Change your name. Assimulate. Don't let. Don't lead. The first time I've ever heard that dress. Don't lead with the thing that makes people hate you. Yeah. Change your name. Jump off your nose. Do whatever it is that. Who's the lady on the clip I've always seen when you're the cliff? The clip. It's an old talk show. You're dressed. You're dressed. You're. in your, um, demon wear and the ladies, you're sitting next to these two old ladies and she says to you, like, oh, I know you're just, you can't hide that hook it from anywhere. Who was that lady? She an old actress or something on the show? No, Tody Fields was a famous comedian of the time. Hmm. And, uh, that was on an afternoon talk show called the Mike Douglas show, which was a variety show for, let's call it for what it is, the housewives that were at home cleaning. So they had

had everybody on their comedians and Lennon and Yoko Ono took over for a whole week. There was no such thing as afternoon variety shows except that show. And Tody Fields herself was obviously Jewish. Jack, Tony Curtis, Kirk Douglas, all these guys were hidden Jews. But what's this program turning into? Well, I'm about to ask you this question. Did you ever have a conversation with your mother about where that will to not just survive, but to thrive comes from? To succeed.

Yeah, this is a lady who if I would have got out of the, or anyone would have made it through what she made it through, you'd think they'd be fine just living on a couch, watching a TV somewhere, but not your mom. Where does that come from? Throughout history, whether you can hate him, like him or whatever. Jews were considered called the people of the book. Look, the literacy rate was much, much higher. They couldn't find a Jewish farmer anywhere. Think about it. Moscovitz's farm.

There's no such thing. Jewish booze, laughable. It's like Manishevitz. It's like grape juice. Yeah. Two Jews and I go say, hey, Moshev, let's go get a drink. It's just not part of the culture. Drinking doesn't because it doesn't work.

It makes you numb and you can't do stuff and you stop doing. So the way you survive is by going into places that don't try to kill you. And there are very few. Per the Bible, no such thing is the Old Testament, right? Before Jesus was born, also a Jew. Before he was born, it was called the Bible. It's only once Christians based on the Latin Christo, which means Messiah or King. Christ Christo.

That wasn't his name, by the way. Mom and Dad were not Mr. and Mrs. Christ. Right? Josephus Flavius, who was the scribe, the Jewish scribe who worked for the Romans, because he didn't want to be killed, was fluent in Latin and Hebrew and Aramaic, and he kept track of who paid taxes, who got crucified, who were the criminals, Males only because women had no rights. Sure enough, there's a rabbi, which means teacher.

It's not a religious denomination. There is no hierarchy. You kiss nobody's ring. Nobody can bless you. Nobody's got that power. It's a personal relationship. There is record in the Vatican, and you can look it up in Google and schmuggle and all the other things that torture me by pressing a button. Rabbi Yesu Ben Your Susser.

if, Rabbi Jesus, son, Ben, of Joseph. The reason you learn that he is Jesus Christ instead of Jesus Ben Joseph is you don't want. Church doesn't want you to think of Jesus' last name as son of Joseph because he's supposed to be son of God. Yes. So Ben Joseph doesn't show up. I was a student of the New Testament and read the Quran and all the other stuff. I was a theology major, and it's fascinating what you can learn if you stick to the thing. So if you go to a church as a Jew, if you've got a banker, a lawyer, or anything, predominantly, especially in civil law. What do you mean? Middle America?

Well, you know what I mean. Chicago, New York, and all the Jews. Recently, big advances by our eastern. Indian brothers and sisters, lots of new, very highly educated Indians from India because you make the effort, right? You don't put in the effort. I think about it all the time. I see people here and I'm just like, I know me. I could never go to Vietnam and open a business, figure out all the legalities of this and the tax and the da-da-da-da-da-da. Learn the language and everything. I'm like, It's an incredible undertaking to go to another country where you don't speak a language.

Well, survival is a great impetus. But I'm saying some people, like I was what I want to get back to about your mom, some people are fine just surviving. Your mom wanted to thrive. Why? Because the more you thrive, the more armor you have around you that they can't, you know, racist America. And you're seeing a woman who's in your family as well.

But obviously her family wiped out, literally wiped out. And she's still wanting to climb. and climb and climb. Success gives you money and success gives you position despite the fact that in some areas in America, racism is alive and well on a high level. So I used to live with Diana Ross, who was a terrific, amazing woman. Now, she told me stories when the Supremes, they were number one above the Beatles that year. They had six number one hits off of the first album. Wow. Off of the first album.

That's crazy. Baby love, stop in the name of love and can't hurry love, all that from like the first six song, bang. So they were doing a tour, 1964, I believe, of the southern states in America. Dave Clark Five, who were bigger than the Beatles that year, were opening for the Supremes. And they're traveling in those days by bus. And they do the show. and the Supremes come on and it's an integrated show where usually it's, they're separated.

Black folks here, white folks there. During that show, they were all mixed up, which was headlines and the Supremes could not stay in the hotel. They'd have to stay in the colored hotel even then. And on the way outside, on the way out of town with the tour bus, there were bullet holes in the tour bus. Damn. This is 1964, not in the 1800s. Yeah.

Yeah. So despite the fact that there was racism overt, they didn't hide it in the States, when Diana went to almost anywhere once she had fame and fortune and all that, the doors open up. If you're not famous, and especially if you don't have the money, the doors close. And I want to say this as a historical fact, when we say the word ghetto, you know, I'm going back, I'm from the ghetto, that's a Jewish term. It's not a black term. And I'll tell you the history. In the Renaissance, Renaissance, in Europe, the trading started to go really well. Marco Polo came back from China, introduced spaghetti to the Italians. They had never heard of spaghetti. That's a Chinese dish, including gunpowder and all. That came from China. I know that one, but I didn't know spaghetti.

The postal system. How do they eat spaghetti with chopsticks like that? I still don't like chopsticks. Yeah. But they did it. A lot of those things didn't come from Italy, but they made it great for what it is. Pasta. It's fucking Chinese.

So once the trade routes opened up and everything, different cultures talked with each other. So the church made a law, never a lender or a borrower be. You couldn't charge interest. If you loan somebody money, don't charge them interest. And you have to be closed on Sunday because the Romans said it's the worship of the sun god, sun day. The Sabbath was always Saturday. But the Romans, once they got a hold of Christianity and made Caesar the first pope, Vatican is in Italy.

same city that used to throw Christians to the lions. Same place. So the Jews tried to survive because everybody tried to kill them along the way. They were not in politics, not allowed. Couldn't get into masonry. You couldn't build, build, you couldn't get into positions of power. They made enormous amounts of money as being tradespeople and banks. Because they started to do well, in trading with people, they amassed money, and then they started to loan people money, which became banks, which became the international banking system invented by Jews. The Rothschilds were a family with different members of the family throughout Europe, and you couldn't start a war without going to the Jews to get the money,

which is why the first thing Hitler did was to take over the banks in Germany because they were all Jewish owned. Going back, so the Jews in Jews because they came from Judea, see, or the Hebrews because they came from Hebron, that's very pragmatic. So Jews made a lot of money, and you'd think they'd be able to live in Rome and Florence and so on. Nope, the only place they were allowed to live in the era of the Medici's, the ruling popes, and so on, is they didn't want to kill them because they needed them. Yeah, it's good. It's like fertilizer. You know, they're good for the economy.

People like them and they can trade and everything. They could charge interest. The Christians couldn't. So they made fortunes. They were allowed to live in the smoke-filled areas where they used to bake bricks that built buildings. In Italian, that area is called G-E-T-T-A, the G-E-T-A, the ghetto. The ghetto is a Jewish term. In World War II in Warsaw, when Jews barricade themselves in an area, it was called a Warsaw ghetto.

I've always heard that. That's the original, I never knew that. There is no black ghetto. It's Jews. It's the Jewish ghetto. You're welcome. By the way, in Christianity, all those words, hallelujah, amen, or not. No, those are all Hebrew words.

Those are all Jew stuff. And what the Pope wears on top of him said, that's a fucking yama coat. It is a yarmulah. That's our. Thank you for saying that. That is a yama going to push that. Yeah, that is your shit. Of course. So are you your mother's only son, only child? Yeah. You are. So is a big part of it for you not wanting to let her down too? Like it's exactly right. After the horrible. I mean, how could you not want to make that woman proud? I had to. After all she'd been through, totally devoted to me. And I have photos of her all over. Good. the place, and her words ring out to me. She was the wisest human being, not just woman I'd ever encountered, because despite all the hardships, she had this philosophy in Hungarian, the words

generally meaning, every day above ground is a good day. Because from her perspective, if you had food to eat and you had a roof over your head and nobody was trying to kill you, what the fuck is your problem. You're in heaven. You're safe. You have food in your belly and you're protected from the seas. What else do you want? The rest is all cream. And I know I sometimes fall into the trap, you know, complaining about bad hair day or traffic jam or, you know, all the things we complain about means nothing. Nothing. Try living in Zimbabwe for a week and see how you like it so here's a question i wanted to ask you as well was your mom how was she how were you excuse me when your mom passed i'll be 76 in three weeks so i must must have been

80 i'm sorry 80 uh 70 must have been 60 All right. So she saw you do what you do. Oh, yeah. I bought her houses and like whatever she wants. And my mother. Did she get a chance to be a grandma with your kids? Did she get that chance? No, we're still, we're still waiting. Shadena and I, Sophie, who's, by the way, Google, Sophie Simmons on Google and Schmogel, and you'll see hundreds of songs that she's written, produced. She manages, and she's an artist herself. She wrote for Train, Rick Ross, all kinds of people.

And do the kids ever ask dad for opinions? No. And that's what you want. You want your kids to be able to, I mean, it's what birds do. Bees do with birds. You have a nest. And while they're helpless, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, the mother bird or the father bird, because they're usually there together, at least for the beginning, then the dad bird flies

off to impregnate the next nest surprise mom feeds the chicks and then when they get a little bit older you know what she does she literally pushes pushes them off and the ones that don't survive don't survive you're forced so in a very real way neither nick nor sophy ever got um what does it call allowances you know you give your kids money for nothing No. You want money? You got to do something, do this. I don't know, mow the lawn, clean this, do that, do that.

Yeah. Then you understand the value of it. And then you don't have to say thank you. You don't owe anybody money. The love of labor, if you can get that into the thick skulls of what's the new generation X? What is it? No, hell no. I'm X.

I don't know what they are. Gen Z, millennials. I don't know what the hell is up. The entitled generation, because if you go through your whole life getting your palm greased, which used to mean you get money for nothing, when you turn 18 or 20, whenever it is, you're on your own, you get entitled, hey, I deserve health care. No, actually, you don't. Well, also, every answer is right here.

You don't need to go find shit out anymore. There's no more arguments and disagreements to go fine. Yeah. Yeah, it's all free, all knowledge. And it's up to you. You have an inferred fiduciary duty or an inferred duty to yourself to figure out what the right thing is, to figure out where the right place is, and to figure out where the right place is. Right thing, right place, right time. I mean, when I was born, my mother used to chew my food for me.

I didn't have a tooth in my skull, and there was no such thing as baby food in a new country, Israel. There's no baby food. It was just, and little babies, no teeth. Their moms used to chew their food so they can get protein and everything and fruit and whatever. I know it sounds, but that's what before the American system of baby food came in, mothers and fathers in the 1800s would chew their food, just like birds or whatever for their kids. I know it sounds like what, but think about it. So, and when I was born, I know for a fact, I just used to shit whenever I wanted to. Somebody wipes up my shit.

Somebody chews my food. I'm set. I can cry whenever I want. It's like, this is the best thing. And then one day it stopped. Hey. So who's going to wipe my shit? You know, who's going to chew my food?

And then you have to do it. And the sooner your kids or anybody's kids that you care about, the sooner they learn to be self-sufficient, the more good citizens they'll be. So let me ask you this. I say this all the time sitting across from people. My father's generation, or excuse me, my grandfather's generation fought in World War II. My father, Vietnam. The great generation, I urge anybody who's got a computer, which is most people, look up Sergeant Irby. been he was almost a hundred and one i was invited by the washington dc by the vet organization to

be in the parade because i i love the american military and i'll do whatever i spoke at the pentagon at the behest at the behest of the joint chiefs of staff yes i did that's awesome in the year where almost nobody got up on that stage right there in the pentagon and the podium and everything i wasn't talking politics i was talking about the this is a volunteer military force. We talk all the time about everything except the people who volunteer to keep you safe. Right now, somebody is dying overseas so that you can complain about stuff. So we can sit and do this. It makes me furious. So real quick, I, then my generation comes along and I'm like, I want to be a clown. And these men are like, what the fuck are you talking about?

When you decided to go into music, was mom supportive of that or was she worried or did she want you to have an education? Jews make deals. Okay, let's hear it. Let's hear the deal mom made with you. By the way, do you have cash on you? I don't now. Well, some. Yeah.

Would you give me two tens for a five? No. That's good. Because most people start doing that. The audience are going to two tens. for a five that doesn't mean they're just used to the pattern yeah what was your question my question was mom supportive when you said hey i know you come from this i want to go do we made we made a deal she in essence said wonderful in her Hungarian accent but if it's no good if you can't make

money what it's like if what's your fallback position and that's a valid question. It is. Because a lot of the entertainment industry, comedians, actors, I don't know, you throw caution to the wind, and that's the only thing you do because it's your passion. I mean, that's fine. But pragmatism isn't just a big word like gymnasium. It means you will win if you have a fallback position. So I made a deal with my mother. I'm going to get a degree. I paid for my own college. I took out of bank loan and paid it off. myself and got a teaching degree, Bachelor of Arts in Education, so I could teach sixth grade. But before then, I was the assistant to the director of the Puerto Rican Interagency Council,

a government-funded research and demonstration project. I was the assistant to the editor of Vogue magazine, did a lot of stuff and amassed in the days when $23,000 was a lot of money. By the time I was 23, I saved $23,000 after tax. So that was a lot, in those days, today it would be 10 times. So 250, you know, like, that means you'd have to earn 500,000 to serve 250 at the highest tax rate. At any rate, people are going, what is he talking about?

You better learn this because they don't teach it in school. They sure don't. You don't learn. That's why I've written business books. I wrote Me, Inc., power, and a few other books about business, which is you don't learned what capitalism is you don't learn in school what is what are taxes should i get married what's the cost of marriage when the statistics tell us you will get divorced that's what it says and then when or if that happens how much do you have to pay well the person you just met

usually male heterosexual cis man i fucking hate that cis shit don't Because when I was growing up, sissy, it wasn't the word. But straight men who marry straight women, if you get divorced, you're going to pay somebody you just met half. Wait, even before you pay tax, you're going to pay this bitch 50% gross pre-tax dollars. If your mother took you to court, she just wants 1% because I gave you life, she'd be thrown out of court. That's your mother who raised you and gave you life. But somebody you just met and spent a few years with, you know, this is not working, thanks very much. She will take half of the best, I've said this before, and it's not a judgment call.

I don't say this because you're a good person or a bad person, just a statement of fact. The smartest job in Western culture on the face of the planet in Western culture is, to be a woman, whether you're straight or not, get married and divorced as many times as before you drop dead. Because every time you get divorced, they're not, they're not, they're non cross collateralized. You can continue to take half 50% before they pay tax, before the government takes their 50%. You can take all that money right in your pocket. miss i had no idea it was like that i didn't know you could keep doing that but i also you know you know why men die younger than women why because they fucking want to i'm just it's a joke

it's a joke you have to have a joke these are just jokes don't get upset it is a horrible business proposal if you laid it out statistically like that the majority of people would be like no way i figured out a long time ago with shannon who i've married twice i worship the ground she walks on and I will marry her again because she's a better human being than I will ever be. She really is smarter in ways that you don't learn in school. But I learned a long time ago, it works better if I wake up in the morning and I say, the first words are, I'm sorry. And then the rest of the day, it just gets better.

No matter. It's raining, my fault. so when does mom realize okay he did it he went after this thing and he did it what was the moment not for you but for her well i started teaching sixth grade in spanish harlem but within six months the band took off we recorded a record and i so i got my degree i actually started teaching My mother saw that I had the fallback position And by the way, I saved all the money Because I lived at home

That's how you know Jesus was Jewish He lived with his mother until he was 33 years old He actually believed his mother was a virgin Yeah, he's the only one And she thought he was God And then he went into his father's business That's a kite These are jokes

But true, by the way So the band took off And within a year and a half before MTV, before even no cell phones, it was still, Superman, when he wanted to become Superman, we'd go into this little cubicle on the street. A phone booth. Yeah. Kids have no idea with a phone booth. What do you mean? Right about that. Rotary things. And you've got to put, and of course, while he's changing close to be Superman, nobody can see that. These days, no, Superman wouldn't have a place to change. Didn't even think of that. Depends if it's a they, them, or a he's a. By the way, the sad part about they, them, which I fully support, I go on record all the time. I don't care how you define yourself is, if you go to certain parts of the Middle East,

and if you define yourself as they, them, you're going to be was, were. Sad but true. They don't care about your definition. They will kill you. don't go there I don't care what your political persuasion is but you can't go to Israel

they won't be whatever you want I win so when mom realizes so within a year and a half of starting we're headlining anaheim stadium in California above fans that had been around

for a long time started playing stadiums by 75 76 and then by In 1977, 78, and 79, there used to be a thing called the Gallup pole. And they would randomly go across the country, what's your favorite food, what's your favorite this? And for three years in a row, Kiss was the number one band in the world per people. Two was either Zeppelin or the Beatles, depending on, then it was the BGs and all the other bands.

Three years in row, we were make, I don't know how to say this without sounding. like I'm self-angrandizing. We were making so much money so fast in the days when bands would just make money off of ticket sales and t-shirts. We had 24-hour warehouses in the valley because inside the albums, we'd have order forms. You could stick in your $5, 10, or $15 before people

used to open up your mail and click off the color pictures of the t-shirt or the thing you wanted, put cash in and they would come in. So 24 hours a day, we had a staff in the Valley that would fulfill these things. Like before there was Amazon, we were doing that. Wow. Yeah. And we did our own market research.

We love our fans, just wanted to get to know you more. Where do you live in the city or the country? urban, suburban, are you male, female in the days when people used to ask, are you male, female? Now there's a host of different life forms. And good luck to you. You're all going to die anyway. So while you're traveling, figure out what makes you happy. I'm totally for it.

Just don't put it in my fucking face. Amen. Keep your, but laissez-faire, I fully support anybody with any lifestyle. Don't bring it into my house. Live and be well, far the fuck away from me. Yeah, and I won't bring my shit into your house. It's so simple. Good fences make good neighbors.

So we wanted to know who they were, how old male, female, and all this kind of stuff. And we learned things. About 60% male, 40% female, surprisingly. Me too. I'm surprised by that. Yeah. And that the most important magazine. magazine was Sports Illustrated, which we didn't know.

Yeah. Ask the people, they will tell you. What else? For me, what else I want to ask you? Were you able to have conversations with your mom about finally passing? Or was it a sudden thing? I was with her to the very end. I held her hand.

And I sang the, Hungarian songs that she used to sing to me when I was a kid. Oh, so see, Pozo se, po, kinneko, se me keiko. Kineko, se me fakete. It's a Hungarian song about trying to make Hungarian women feel more beautiful because they had dark eyes,

because they're remnants of the Mongols. Did you know that? Yeah, the Hungarians, there were four different types of Attila, the Hun, Hun, Hungarian. There were the Mongols, the Huns, the Tatars, and the one other. And when they came to Europe, rape and pillage was a Mongol idea. They killed everything in front, killed all the males, kept the females so they could wash and make children, and burned everything in back of them so that the people that they come. conquered, couldn't rebuild.

They burned the crops, and killed all the male children, took the females. That's what Hitler wound up copying, the Mongol invasion process, rape and pillage. So you sang to her. Sorry? You sang to her. You were singing to her and you got to spend time. So the Hungarian women, she is beautiful, she who has blue eyes is beautiful. She who has blue eyes is beautiful.

She who has blue eyes is beautiful. She who has dark eyes, you know, her black eyes, is beautiful because Hungarian women. So the way you sang it is also simple. O'Kneko, Seme Kekko, Kineko, semifaketa. You know, they would all scream that and pick up the women, you know, and just kind of go. Yeah. And she used to sing me. There is, let us touchy loggom.

There is, I have one life, and I see the one star in the heavens, sort of that has your name on it. And I wish I could reach that star and bring it to you. I don't know how else to translate that, but, you know, she, like all mothers, you wish the best for your child. Oh, she was an amazing. If there's a good side to me, it's her. It's all my mother. I love hearing that.

All mothers just get a raw deal without mothers. We'd be killing and fucking each other or worse. Worse. Yeah, it's mothers who are the cornerstone of civilization, which is why I don't understand. how maybe there's some truth, the guys that raise their hand towards women, I'm guessing it's not scientific evidence that I have, but maybe there is some, must have been treated badly as children.

Because if you had a loving mother who was there nurtured, I mean, there is nurture and nature, but if you had nurture throughout your life, how could you raise your hand at another female who's going to be the mother of another child how would you do that this has been a great episode i can't thank you enough for coming on and five bucks i gotcha don't worry um one question i'd like to ask to wrap up advice you'd give to 16 year old jean simmons curious what you would tell that kid to myself at 16 you know i have to say i wouldn't change a thing because I remember having the mindset of not having a father figure around. And my mother was always working at a sweat factory, no minimum wage, no nothing, six days a week.

And 7 a.m. till 7 p.m. That's great. At 12 hours. I used to go in the summer months when I didn't go to school because you had summer vacation, I'd take the hot 100-degree subways with my mother at the crack of dawn. to go into the sweat factory, which was a fire trap, these old wooden places in the backwoods of Brooklyn where nobody cared about, like in ghettos,

black ghetto, African American ghettos, and there's old fire trap, and there'd be Jews in there making, you know, winter coats and things like trying to etch a living. My mother used to make half a penny per button, of winter coats. So you'd have to take a winter coat off the rack and then line up the whole button holes on the desk with a white pencil and put a marker and then put the button machine and so on the

button into each of those things. Half a penny. And then reconnect the things and then hang it up on the other side. If it had six buttons, you make six, I'm sorry, three cents. Three cents after all that stuff, yeah. I love it. And so she taught me the value of money. It's interesting.

Different cultures think of money in different ways. If you're not Jewish, per Benjamin Franklin, a penny saved as a penny earned. By the way, now a penny saved is two pennies earned. Yeah, you're damn right. Because that was before tax, before America had taxes, federal included. So, if you're not Jewish, it's called, people say, oh, you're frugal. If you're Jewish, if you're Jewish, you're fucking cheap. I just taught my daughter frugal the other day, and now I'm going to tell her that.

I'm going to tell her that. When somebody says, I'm cheap. I say, thank you. I'm smart, bitch. I'll see you at the end. And revenge for all the people that had something to say about you. And about you, best revenge is to have them work for you. That's the best revenge.

Keep your nose, run on the grindstone, work hard, work harder than your next door neighbor, amass your fortune, whatever that is. And living well is the best revenge. I have met, you know, the athletic jock in school who was more popular in school, who, you know, had some chicks. Of course, when he wouldn't look, I'd climb on them anyway. But they all pick, they don't look to the future. It's like right here, right now. I never thought about right here right now. What am I going to do later?

I've got my finances in such order that the next two to three generations are taking care of. You sure? Because I always feel like there's just one crackhead that could come in there and fuck it all up for everybody. No, that's why you have to diversify. For the crackhead that's going to come in, actually. There are wars. So I'm in crypto, real estate, stocks, bonds, futures, commodities. All right.

I can't thank you enough for doing this. Anything you'd like to promote one more time to wrap up? I have one Jewish joke. Let's hear it. What's 12 inches in Jewish? What? Nothing. the other answer the other answer is me thank you for doing this brother i can't thank you

enough you're doing the right thing ask your doctor and he'll tell you never shake anybody's hand again ever i've been so much uh i do my meet and greets or see people on the road i've started fist bump but i've been sick barely ever me too that's right i don't i don't get sick that especially in the time of covid or yeah for sure that's one of I really started. Before they meet you, they're scratching their ass. Yeah, yeah. By the way, Middle Easterners, Arabs more would have two different philosophy. If you went into an Arab household, you went into a kid and say, hey, how are you nice to see you? With the left hand, you would be cursed, possibly violent, because with your left hand, you wipe your ass. That's the unclean hand.

The right hand is for eating before forks and knives. We still have that philosophy. You're a South Paul, like bestiality, if you're a left-handed thing, that's considered evil, right? You're on the right side of the law. That's your right hand. Yeah. Right is still, right, might make right. Right isn't just your right hand. It means justice, right? Left, that's a left-handed compliment. Yeah. You learn stuff. I learned more on this episode that I ever did in any social studies class or history class i have where is where does the southern twang and y'all come from i'm from baltimore from maryland oh that's not a yawl town it's it's a bit of a yall town it really is it's officially below the mason dixon line one of the few states right four that fought in both sides

of both sides that's right even though you didn't have north and south true but you've got you've got that little harper's ferry pocket that touches west virginia but that's not where they them go that harper's Ferry. They, them? No. By the way, it bears noting that through all the wars that America's fought, we lost more Americans because both North and South are Americans fighting and killing each other. Yeah, so I learned that going to Gettysburg.

We used to take field trips to Gettysburg, and we learned that more people in the Civil War were killed because we're fighting each other than all the other ones. I think combined. Insane. That's crazy. Should add Jews in there? Make a deal. You got to make a deal.

Finance us out of that motherfucker. Mason-Dixon line was with those two guys because Lincoln really wanted to push the idea of, you know, African America. They've been here. They've been slaves. That's not really the right thing. It almost made it into the Constitution with the founding fathers, except they were all rich because they had slaves. so morally they thought it's not a good idea but maybe we shouldn't write it in because that's where they made their money finally lincoln came public and said you got you got to do that but the north was industrialized already

the south was not industrialized it was all farming and in fact england sent boats to prevent the north from getting into the south did you know that i did not know that yes they blockaded it because they wanted the cotton. The cotton, yeah. That came from there. Yeah. And the only reason the north one is because they could push 50,000 troops one way or the other because they had railroads in the south.

They didn't have, so you could move troops really fat. If you were in my class, you'd be. Teacher, Mr. Sim. By the way, the South. Were you Mr. Gene or Mr. Simmons? Would you go? Oh, you weren't. Mr. Klein.

Mr. Klein, then. Yeah. By the way, the South still has a. to stick up their ass about the war. Yeah. The South Shall Rise. Yeah, I know. They still really are.

They're still upset about it. Get over it. They really are upset about it. Yeah. But you started it. They still got a shot, though. They still think they got a shot. Yeah.

It's such a, and middle America is a decidedly, continues to be a different country than North is a side. You would never put on a cowboy hat. Some of my closest friend, Nashville and so on, their spouse are kind of a cultural thing. How you dress, how you talk, you blah, you ain't going to do nothing, like that thing. And will not acquiesce to the mid-Atlantic, you know, that sound. Although it bears noting, if you go to Mississippi or Alabama, what do you do now? When anyone says I sound southern, I'm like, that's because you've never been there.

No, that you've never been there. In some parts of Texas, I know President Bush, he knows, he says, nuclear wrong. He knows he says, nuclear. He can't stop. But when you watch the news and you listen to them talking, they speak like this. There ain't no, Professor Bill LeBobb's saying, you know, I was going to do about Shakespeare. Nope. There's some weathermen.

They slip in with that kind of shit, the clown. They're the comically. Because that's what I want to do is talk politics with a weatherman. Anyway, I just want to say it was a pleasure to talk to me. Thank you. It really was a pleasure to talk to you. This is a very good thing you had here. You like that?

You gave princess some. I never gave her human food. But after you scolded her and taught her what the hierarchy was, I was like, she can have a little It wasn't even scolding. It was their language because if a dog, smaller dog, goes into and tries to eat a little bit from the bigger dog's bowl, what happens? That dog, yeah. The bigger dog, just one time.

or bites at one time and from then on they get along great they go okay i have to be back they just want to know what the rules are which is in the beginning why there's chaos that includes your girlfriend one of you's got to wear the pants if you're okay with her then just wake up in the morning and say i'm sorry i'm sorry as always ryan sickler on all your social media we'll talk to you all next week I'm going to be able to be.